I thought there was only around 5 interior photos. Boy was I wrong! It's surreal knowing that that is inside one of the most famous piece of history in the world! Another great and informative video of this channel!
Tbf, a lot of these photos aren't actually of the Titanics interior. Fun little fact is the majority, if not all of these, are from the Titanics sister ship, the RMS Olympic, the first of the Big 3 'Olympic Class' to be completed. Although the RMS TITANIC had a huge fanfare, it was nowhere as to that of the Olympics' fanfare, and thus very few photos were ever taken of the Titanic, and even fewer inside the ship. Either way, it's rather hard to spot, due to the Titanic and Olympic having a very similar interior design. One of the biggest giveaways is B Deck, which had the exclusive A la carte restaurant, of which Olympic didn't have, as well as an enclosed promenade deck. To this day, many of the shots taken on the boardwalk of Titanic are disputed, as it could very well be that of either Olympic or Titanic. Sorry to be a bit of a downer, but it's still fascinating nevertheless.
@@jerkerhernback9558 yeah. I want to see how accurate the real time sinking was. I wouldn't want to try stopping it tho, as It might mess up the future.
Same. If time travel was ever possible...imagine what we could learn. Maybe disguise a modern high-quality camera inside the casing of an old-fashioned one of the time. Just don't forget to wear your wetsuit under your clothing. :)
I'm trying to remember, but it was either Archibald Gracie or Lawrence Beasley that mentioned the fella with the movie camera (Dan Marvin, maybe?) that was filming when suction was pulling the New York into the Titanic. Sadly, that was lost.
Probably a good amount. The Kodak brownie cameras of the time were compact, portable and made photography common and extremely popular with the general public. That’s how we have the survivor recovery photos boarding the Carpathia. They were taken by passengers.
lincolnlobster They are surprisingly portable. I have a Brownie Autographic that has the “pen” on it which let you label photos while shooting. It’s about the size of tighter iPhone stacked together. Very nifty stuff.
There was a passenger in Second Class by the name of Willliam Harbeck, and he was photographing the maiden voyage so that some of it could be used later for White Star publicity. Harbeck was traveling with his associate (and likely mistress), Henriette Yrois. They both died in the sinking and the film and pictures they had were destroyed. According to schoolteacher Lawrence Beesley’s account, Harbeck and his “wife” were present in Southampton to witness the near collision between the Titanic and the S.S. New York, and they captured the moment. It would have been interesting to see the film and photographs, if they had only survived.
As a Titanic history hobbyist, I can say your work here is outstanding and 100% accurate. There were so many images from Olympic that were passed off, after the disaster, as being from Titanic. There were profiteers in that day, too. Well done.
To think we might not even had some of those well-known photos if Browne's boss hadn't made him come back. Apparently, Browne had befriended a millionaire couple while on board, and they offered to buy him ticket all they way to New York. When he telegraphed his boss, the response was "Get off that ship".
In the years that followed the sinking, he was known to jest that this is the only time when holy obedience has been known to have saved a man’s life. :-)
If anyone hasn't seen the game titanic honor and glory. Theres a demo where you can walk through the ship. It's still in development but the demo has about 1/6th of the ship recreated. It's cool to walk through a lot of the rooms shown in these pictures. Super accurate too.
I've never played it and only just heard about the game yesterday. I've watched a video on it in which it's updated and more through the development now. It looks nice although I have seen some parts of the grand staircase that going from these images is now from Olympia. You should have a look.
@@sielorstout1213 Yes, but it's much more than a computer game. It's an accurate virtual reconstruction of the Titanic. They just completed the demo with 50% accessible space. You'll find Honor & Glory on YT and also a link to their Homepage. The demo is for free. The guys behind this project are amazing.
I don't think some of the photos here where taken by Browne or said to be from Olympic or Titanic. The photo showing the reading room at 2:39 is included in the Francis Browne Titanic album on the Titanic Photographs site and is labelled as being taken on Titanic.
Thanks to Honor & Glory, I will forever associate the photo at 3:56 with their discovery regarding the bulkhead windows dividing the dining and reception rooms. I wonder if Britannic was supposed to receive the same design change?
Eccentric Gamer I wonder the same thing. It'd be easy to assume Britannic would've received the same design, but there are a few instances on Britannic where something was designed as it was on Olympic, but not on Titanic, or areas where features from both Olympic and Titanic were merged (E.G.: Britannic's B-deck layout)
Actually since the Titanic and Olympic were supposed to be furnished and decorated almost identical to each other the Olympic photos are still relevant - interesting because the Cunard Line’s Mauretania and Lusitania were quite different internally, as if they wanted each ship to have its own identity. I don’t know if there are photos of the Brittanic of a few years later to see how it may have differed from the Olympic aside from some additional features (children’s playroom, hair salon etc.).
The picture of Lightoller Murdoch was most interesting considering it still shows Lightoller with first officer stripes. Murdoch most certainly had chief officer stripes, neither having time to change when Wilde came aboard on April 10th.
Likely many as First Class paswswengers would have had $ for cameras and had acess to DO IT YOURSELF darkroom provided for them Also there was a newsreel cameraman on board to document voyage
And this is exactly why I’m THAT person taking photos on every trip, or just any old fun excursions I do. I refuse to have my memories like Rose so beautifully said, “He exists now, only in my memory.”
There are several videos of what Titanic’s engines sounded like. Very comforting sounding, oddly enough. They make a great AMSR video, and in fact there’s one that goes on for 10 hours.
for some reason i’m obsessed with the private promenade and the french cafe on the promenade. the design allowed so much outdoor light on the clean brand new ship. it also seems enclosed and gives privacy. i love it so much. 🙊
Interesting for people to say what their favorite things in the Titanic were. Mine are the light sconces in the lounge (very elegant), the floral print chairs in the restaurant, the inlaid paneling in the smoking room, and that cabin that, while plainer than some of the others, has an English arts and crafts look to it, a predecessor to modern. I’ll have to watch again to see what number it was.
Curious how there don’t seem to be any bureaus with drawers in the rooms, I guess most people were expected to travel with steamer trunks that were set up like a portable closet. People on business trips however probably used suitcases more, unlike the rich who had been in Europe for months prior to the maiden voyage. I also read that the cabins had telephones but I don’t see any in the photos.
Thanks and congratulations for this fantastic and informative video. I was well aware of Olympic photos being many times passed as Titanic pictures but the total collection of real Titanic pictures is a fantastic document. Thanks a lot
Years ago I bought a book about the Titanic which is full of fotos and deck plans of Olympic but my 10 year old ass didn't notice until some years later
Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve known since I was young there weren’t many photos taken of Titanic, but I never had any idea of how few. You also make a great point; it’s madness to think that arguably the most recognized ship in history had only 36(39) pictures are all that exist of her interior when there would thousands upon thousands taken in the same situation today.
It was no doubt also assumed by nearly everyone that the ship would be around, and happily photographed, for many years to come. A thing is only cherished in a certain way when someone knows they are about to lose it...
Titanic wow a Legend of a Ship with a sad ending no matter how ships are today Titanic will always be my fave ship of all time nothing will change that there is just something about Titanic that a like a lot one of a kind
Fantastic work! Finally somebody that can actually break down what each photo truly is. But what about the picture they say is the last picture of the titanic taken by Francis Browne? The one where the titanic‘s off in the distance and you could see a rowboat?!?
And with Titanic HG we will all finally get a full chance to explore her interiors. Looking forward to the day the project is completed. Enjoyed the vid as always
Hey, I just watched you vid, thank you so much for sharing. I never knew that all the photos were not of Titanic! Always loved everything Titanic. Have a 3 foot model of it in my living room. But really never knew that the most of the pics out there were not Titanic …..Wow did you school me just now!
@@TitanicUniversity Hey man, I would like to know if are you going to use Unreal Engine 5 for the game now? Looks like it could look really really sweet.
My grandfather Percy Byron photographed the Olympic. The opening photo sequence is his father Joseph Byron. It would be appreciated if you would grant them the photography credit they rightly deserve. Thanks, Thomas Byron
It's so strange..... just days before, those people in those photographs were living their lives, excited to what comes next upon their arrival in New York. It was just supposed to be a normal trip, then just days later they would become part of the most infamous disasters at sea. These photographs make the story more human, more real, and not just a mere legend.
Thanks to your presentation, all of my questions about which photos were taken on the Titanic and which were taken on the Olympic have been answered.. Many people believe the two ships were switched and a lot of that has to do with the confusion over the photographs.. It's claimed on certain web sites that Rev. Browne only took a few photos of the Titanic, instead of the many he actually took, and attribute photos to him that he didn't take.
Agreed. Even with digital pictures, the timing it still absolutely everything. I treasure the first pictures of my mixed-media maritime art when I started at 10 26 years ago. I did not have the fuller forethought to take more of what I was doing to then accurately record what I did make. Now at over 300 works and a few exhibitions, its important to remember those first steps. (The original first piece of mine was recreated for the biggest show mostly because I still had the rudimentary parts and from memory!) With regards to the real ships mentioned here, we have to figure that Titanic was an evolutionary event before the sinking at a time when crossings were not as romanticized as they are now. If we were still traveling by ship as most people still were by the 1950s, we would probably not love it as much ;) (Who will remember jet liners until they are replaced by something new.)
I can imagine if there were cameras on board during the voyage they would have tried to capture the sinking with the lit flooded rooms. I wish something like that survived
Great video as always :) Not sure if this is the right conduit but may I make a suggestion for a future video? I've seen a lot of Titanic Elitism within the Titanic community where people tend to want to prove their knowledge and do so in a very patronizing way to others that may not know so much. I am not an expert by any means and never claim to be but have witnessed it on various platforms online especially some FB groups & I just feel it's so toxic. I've seen one lady I know post a photo of herself in the Thomson Dry Dock and because she got the name wrong, had a few people "correct her" in a very nasty way. Just was so unnecessary likewise today I just posted some artwork of Titanic found online that was never meant to be a true mathematical depiction of her at sea, it was just a beautiful piece of artwork of seeing the ship during the evening from a beach & someone proceeded to comment "a little too close to the shore" I just grit my teeth and think why? Why be that person? I've posted about it before and had a lot of people resonate with what I've said. I know it's only a few and thankful many of the community are gracious and happily share their knowledge without the elitist attitude.
You make some good points but you know, you're overly sensitive about it. It's NOT a perfect world -- remember that. We are in an age of Trump where nastiness and lies get you to the top. Sadly, that's the temper of the times -- and you just have to fight back.
@@mylesgarcia4625 appreciate your points, but kinda have to disagree that I'm being overly sensitive. I've witnessed & been on the receiving end of this form of elitism over the last 4 years since I became active in the Titanic world of social media. And I do often speak out, I'll pull them up and it's 50/50 response where they will take their posts down immediantley cause they know they've stepped out of line or they respond. I've spoken to loads of individuals about this sort of behavior exhibited by a few in men and women alike & people can't stand it. Just cause lies and being nasty gets you to the top doesn't make it right with all due respect.
It's too bad that Browne didn't snap a photo or two of the Grand Staircase on Titanic. Its possible that Titanic's Grand Staircase may have been slightly altered and may have been a little different than Olympic's Grand Staircase. But since there are no known photos of it. We may never really know.
Besides the gym instructor and guarantee man, I wonder how many in that dinning area went down with the ship. How many of those people in these photos was this the last picture of?
I immediately said a guess of 40! Dunno how that just came to my head. Maybe I watch too much about titanic and that facts just came up at one point ? Love the history
Love seeing the photos, but most of the ones of Titanic went by tooo fast(I want them to go exceedingly slow so I can look at EVERYTHING lol) unlike the ones shown of Olympic. THANKS for this video.
I wonder what was wrong with Brown's camera that it kept catching double exposures? I have one of those Kodak vestpocket cameras... maybe I'll tinker with it.
The size of an untrimmed contact print rules out that Browne used a Vest Pocket Kodak camera. Unfortunately it's unknown what type/brand of camera he did use. One thing is certain: it didn't have a double exposures prevention mechanism ;-) But that's true for all cameras in that era!
At 2:41 you show a picture of the reading room on A deck, I see this same photo in father Brownes titanic album ISBN 978-1-910248-27-0 and it said he took it on Titanic, but I agree it must be Olympic, how can that be, mmmmmm?
Now if we only knew what color things were! The sofas and chairs in the lounge were supposedly green, the restaurant (not shown here) was apparently gray and rose, and the linoleum floor in the dining room quite colorful in red, green, and blue.
Yes. Curious to me how the White Star line wanted their new ships to have almost identical interiors. Often with “sister” ships each had their own look and identity (e.g. the Lusitania and Mauretania). Of course the Titanic had some features that were an improvement on the Olympic but essentially they were equally luxurious.
@@radamik Lusitania & Mauritania aren’t actually good examples of that. those sisters were built each by a different shipyard which wasn’t common at all. also, White Star had their own style of interiors that they included in all their ships since the RMS Oceanic (at least). especially seen with the first class Lounge(s).
I wonder if there's been any digital retouching on the double exposures. The one in the Marconi room would probably be the easiest since it's not a true double. The camera jogged a bit causing the double image.
Double exposures on antique cameras are extremely easy. The film advance, shutter wind, shutter release are all separate mechanisms. I learned photography on a 1930's-1940's 2.25" x 3.25" Speed Graphic, and often questioned myself if I had advanced the film or not. Classic photography is definitely and art where you learn for your mistakes.
No, that was a friend of Lawrence Beesley, who is also seen in the photo. 2nd class passengers were allowed to come and view the 1st class public rooms before departure from Southampton. 3rd class passengers were never given the chance.
Where's the photo taken by Browne of American Jacques Futrelle taken outside the gymnasium on the boat deck?. This is a very well known photo and appears on the Titanic photographs site. The site also includes the photo of Smith looking down from the bridge wing, but according to this video it wasn't taken by Francis Browne. Also, what about the photo taken on A deck which some say shows Capt Smith walking along the open end of the prom with his back to the camera as Titanic was off Portsmouth?, this is often credited to Browne.
Hey Matt, I remember that in one of your infrequent monthly status update (I think it was october's) Tom mentioned something about the Lusitania week and a real-time sinking animation. I looked for it in Titanic: Honor and Glory and it was never uploaded. Did you had no the time to do it or what happened? By the way, great video. Love to be a student of this university
I wonder how is it possible that Father Francis Browne didn't take any photo of the Grand Staircase. I'm hoping that there are some in a private collector's hands and they will be released one day... :(
Yeah, I wonder why he didn’t decide to at least take a photo of the aft staircase, which would have been right outside of his cabin. If the staircase looked like anything as it did in Demos 2 and 3, surely there would be enough light in order to snap a good photo.
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I think the main reason (not mentioned in the video) that there are not many interior Titanic photos is because it sank. I'm sure other passengers had cameras that are now 12,000ft below the ocean. Father Browne also took a picture of Phillips and Bride on the ship.
I thought the photo showing the lady and man on the boat deck was of a husband and wife couple, but according to this video they were just two random passengers that he photographed together; no mention of what class they were here, but from but I have read elsewhere they were second class passengers. So who the took the photo of the family walking on the boat deck where we see one of the funnels to the right and deck chairs stacked uo?.
1912: don't take pictures at meal times
Today: procedes to take picture of toasted white bread and avacados
I would love to try it out that bicycle racing simulator they had in the Titanic gymnasium. Photographs of it make it look so interesting.
As a Titanic obsessed person I never knew this and loved it. Good work
I thought there was only around 5 interior photos. Boy was I wrong! It's surreal knowing that that is inside one of the most famous piece of history in the world! Another great and informative video of this channel!
Nicholas Brunner I said 6, I was also wrong
By 1912 photography was common place. It would be weird if they hadn't taken a lot of pictures of the interior.
Tbf, a lot of these photos aren't actually of the Titanics interior. Fun little fact is the majority, if not all of these, are from the Titanics sister ship, the RMS Olympic, the first of the Big 3 'Olympic Class' to be completed. Although the RMS TITANIC had a huge fanfare, it was nowhere as to that of the Olympics' fanfare, and thus very few photos were ever taken of the Titanic, and even fewer inside the ship. Either way, it's rather hard to spot, due to the Titanic and Olympic having a very similar interior design. One of the biggest giveaways is B Deck, which had the exclusive A la carte restaurant, of which Olympic didn't have, as well as an enclosed promenade deck. To this day, many of the shots taken on the boardwalk of Titanic are disputed, as it could very well be that of either Olympic or Titanic. Sorry to be a bit of a downer, but it's still fascinating nevertheless.
I wish I could go back in time to take photos or videos of the titanic and send it to experts. That would be awesome.
Of the sinking too?
@@jerkerhernback9558 yeah. I want to see how accurate the real time sinking was. I wouldn't want to try stopping it tho, as It might mess up the future.
@@thdude1873 yea i would not change anything either i would just kinda find out all the mysteries of the sinking.
Same. If time travel was ever possible...imagine what we could learn. Maybe disguise a modern high-quality camera inside the casing of an old-fashioned one of the time. Just don't forget to wear your wetsuit under your clothing. :)
What would you tell people who ask why you're taking so many pictures?
I wonder: How many photos were taken on the maiden voyage that perished with the ship?
I'm trying to remember, but it was either Archibald Gracie or Lawrence Beasley that mentioned the fella with the movie camera (Dan Marvin, maybe?) that was filming when suction was pulling the New York into the Titanic. Sadly, that was lost.
wwhitby wow u smartt
Probably a good amount. The Kodak brownie cameras of the time were compact, portable and made photography common and extremely popular with the general public. That’s how we have the survivor recovery photos boarding the Carpathia. They were taken by passengers.
lincolnlobster They are surprisingly portable. I have a Brownie Autographic that has the “pen” on it which let you label photos while shooting. It’s about the size of tighter iPhone stacked together. Very nifty stuff.
There was a passenger in Second Class by the name of Willliam Harbeck, and he was photographing the maiden voyage so that some of it could be used later for White Star publicity. Harbeck was traveling with his associate (and likely mistress), Henriette Yrois. They both died in the sinking and the film and pictures they had were destroyed. According to schoolteacher Lawrence Beesley’s account, Harbeck and his “wife” were present in Southampton to witness the near collision between the Titanic and the S.S. New York, and they captured the moment. It would have been interesting to see the film and photographs, if they had only survived.
Who dares to dislike these masterpieces?!??!. Who dares to dislike these masterpieces?!??!.
There's one Browne took of the sea below as Titanic sailed...thank god he didn't drop the camera!!
theres another one of his that he took in the 1st class dining saloon.
As a Titanic history hobbyist, I can say your work here is outstanding and 100% accurate. There were so many images from Olympic that were passed off, after the disaster, as being from Titanic. There were profiteers in that day, too. Well done.
To think we might not even had some of those well-known photos if Browne's boss hadn't made him come back. Apparently, Browne had befriended a millionaire couple while on board, and they offered to buy him ticket all they way to New York. When he telegraphed his boss, the response was "Get off that ship".
Probably some of the best advice he ever received.
In the years that followed the sinking, he was known to jest that this is the only time when holy obedience has been known to have saved a man’s life. :-)
If anyone hasn't seen the game titanic honor and glory. Theres a demo where you can walk through the ship. It's still in development but the demo has about 1/6th of the ship recreated. It's cool to walk through a lot of the rooms shown in these pictures. Super accurate too.
Is it a computer game?
I've never played it and only just heard about the game yesterday. I've watched a video on it in which it's updated and more through the development now. It looks nice although I have seen some parts of the grand staircase that going from these images is now from Olympia. You should have a look.
@@sielorstout1213 Yes, but it's much more than a computer game. It's an accurate virtual reconstruction of the Titanic. They just completed the demo with 50% accessible space. You'll find Honor & Glory on YT and also a link to their Homepage. The demo is for free. The guys behind this project are amazing.
Awesome video….thank you for documenting these photos and differentiating them from Olympic
I don't think some of the photos here where taken by Browne or said to be from Olympic or Titanic. The photo showing the reading room at 2:39 is included in the Francis Browne Titanic album on the Titanic Photographs site and is labelled as being taken on Titanic.
Thanks to Honor & Glory, I will forever associate the photo at 3:56 with their discovery regarding the bulkhead windows dividing the dining and reception rooms. I wonder if Britannic was supposed to receive the same design change?
Eccentric Gamer I wonder the same thing. It'd be easy to assume Britannic would've received the same design, but there are a few instances on Britannic where something was designed as it was on Olympic, but not on Titanic, or areas where features from both Olympic and Titanic were merged (E.G.: Britannic's B-deck layout)
Matt Ward In this case, Britannic had the three wide windows as Titanic.
Actually since the Titanic and Olympic were supposed to be furnished and decorated almost identical to each other the Olympic photos are still relevant - interesting because the Cunard Line’s Mauretania and Lusitania were quite different internally, as if they wanted each ship to have its own identity. I don’t know if there are photos of the Brittanic of a few years later to see how it may have differed from the Olympic aside from some additional features (children’s playroom, hair salon etc.).
The picture of Lightoller Murdoch was most interesting considering it still shows Lightoller with first officer stripes. Murdoch most certainly had chief officer stripes, neither having time to change when Wilde came aboard on April 10th.
These photos are absolutely amazing!
I wonder how many pictures went down with the ship.
Likely many as First Class paswswengers would have had $ for cameras and had acess to DO IT YOURSELF darkroom provided for them Also there was a newsreel cameraman on board to document voyage
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It’s a shame the Dining Saloon photo wasn’t more clear so that we could make out some of the people in the photo.
And this is exactly why I’m THAT person taking photos on every trip, or just any old fun excursions I do. I refuse to have my memories like Rose so beautifully said,
“He exists now, only in my memory.”
Who dares to dislike these masterpieces?!??!
ZenticToni Cunard supporters.
@@4vesta255 no I think it's the German lines
liberals
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Amazing, the pictures taken of the titanic and olympia are outstanding 💯
It's a shame that there wasn't anymore photos of Titanic.
You could make a video about how exactly the titanic sounded like
Gremio Yes
Like chugging thats what the ship sounded like in a nutshell.
There are videos of Titanic's recovered whistle been blown, not to mention there are also videos with audio of Olympic blowing her whistles.
Or look up the white star songbook to hear the sound of first class.
There are several videos of what Titanic’s engines sounded like. Very comforting sounding, oddly enough. They make a great AMSR video, and in fact there’s one that goes on for 10 hours.
The last photo of Murdoch is amazing 👌🏽 It’s never been included in the many titanic documentaries out there
Nobody in the gangway, nor did Murdoch’s colleagues knew that that would be the last photo of him, ever.
for some reason i’m obsessed with the private promenade and the french cafe on the promenade. the design allowed so much outdoor light on the clean brand new ship. it also seems enclosed and gives privacy. i love it so much. 🙊
Interesting for people to say what their favorite things in the Titanic were. Mine are the light sconces in the lounge (very elegant), the floral print chairs in the restaurant, the inlaid paneling in the smoking room, and that cabin that, while plainer than some of the others, has an English arts and crafts look to it, a predecessor to modern. I’ll have to watch again to see what number it was.
B-57.
Curious how there don’t seem to be any bureaus with drawers in the rooms, I guess most people were expected to travel with steamer trunks that were set up like a portable closet. People on business trips however probably used suitcases more, unlike the rich who had been in Europe for months prior to the maiden voyage. I also read that the cabins had telephones but I don’t see any in the photos.
My favorite is the beautiful wicker furniture. I love wicker!❤
if only we had photos of titanic's potato storage rooms... 😭
Hey, we always have Olympic
Why what’s up with that room???
No no no, we all know that WEST BOUND BEEF was the most important room!!
Wow. This is very informative. It's sad how few interior photographs of her survive. So little glimpse remains of her glory.
Thanks and congratulations for this fantastic and informative video. I was well aware of Olympic photos being many times passed as Titanic pictures but the total collection of real Titanic pictures is a fantastic document. Thanks a lot
Another informative and beautifully done video. Great script, editing and delivery supported by lovely music. Thanks Matt.
That was so amazing. Thanks for sharing the photos!
They sold me the image from 4:17 saying that was from Titanic.
@Luca Yates Jeez, however made that was feeling super lazy.
@Luca Yates oof
@Luca Yates Sure
Years ago I bought a book about the Titanic which is full of fotos and deck plans of Olympic but my 10 year old ass didn't notice until some years later
@@KiroBankov Understandable.
Same here!
What a great piece of rare photographic legacy of the Titanic --fabulous fodder for the rivet-counters!! Thanks for putting it together.
Excellent as always! I'm glad you mentioned the double exposure, most people overlook it.
Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve known since I was young there weren’t many photos taken of Titanic, but I never had any idea of how few. You also make a great point; it’s madness to think that arguably the most recognized ship in history had only 36(39) pictures are all that exist of her interior when there would thousands upon thousands taken in the same situation today.
It was no doubt also assumed by nearly everyone that the ship would be around, and happily photographed, for many years to come. A thing is only cherished in a certain way when someone knows they are about to lose it...
Titanic wow a Legend of a Ship with a sad ending no matter how ships are today Titanic will always be my fave ship of all time nothing will change that there is just something about Titanic that a like a lot one of a kind
Thank you for that. Too many people claiming to have pics of the titanic , you just don't know what to believe.
Please consider a video with some info on 2nd class, I feel like it really gets overlooked and it's so fascinating
Fantastic work!
Finally somebody that can actually break down what each photo truly is.
But what about the picture they say is the last picture of the titanic taken by Francis Browne? The one where the titanic‘s off in the distance and you could see a rowboat?!?
there’s another, with the ship much further out and with no rowboat in the foreground. that’s considered to be the last, i believe.
Amazing! Thats a bitter pill to swallow, 39 photos! Wow!
And with Titanic HG we will all finally get a full chance to explore her interiors. Looking forward to the day the project is completed. Enjoyed the vid as always
I love this youtube channel
I'm jealous you sailed on QM2. I wanna do that someday. Thanks for video, Matt! Please keep them coming
Hey, I just watched you vid, thank you so much for sharing. I never knew that all the photos were not of Titanic! Always loved everything Titanic. Have a 3 foot model of it in my living room. But really never knew that the most of the pics out there were not Titanic …..Wow did you school me just now!
Hey Professor 🙋🏻♂️ I know you are more into british ships, but would it be possible if you dedicated one to the "Imperator"?
Great video as usual :)
There are many great ocean liners. But there's plenty of facts to set straight regarding Titanic and her sisters first.
@@TitanicUniversity Which company would you prefer to sail with Cunard or White Star? Or Hamburg Amerkia or North German Lloyd
@@TitanicUniversity Hey man, I would like to know if are you going to use Unreal Engine 5 for the game now? Looks like it could look really really sweet.
Can anyone tell me how there is confusion over the Titanic's main propeller being 3 or 4 blades?
You'd think that it would be well documented.
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Private video. I'm unable to watch it.
My grandfather Percy Byron photographed the Olympic. The opening photo sequence is his father Joseph Byron. It would be appreciated if you would grant them the photography credit they rightly deserve. Thanks, Thomas Byron
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It's so strange..... just days before, those people in those photographs were living their lives, excited to what comes next upon their arrival in New York. It was just supposed to be a normal trip, then just days later they would become part of the most infamous disasters at sea. These photographs make the story more human, more real, and not just a mere legend.
A lot of the surviving photographs of the Titanic were taken by Father Brown who got off at Queenstown on the southern coast of Ireland.
So sad seeing the candid photos of passengers on the Titanic just living life, not knowing the tragedy ahead of them
These pictures are wonderful
Thanks to your presentation, all of my questions about which photos were taken on the Titanic and which were taken on the Olympic have been answered.. Many people believe the two ships were switched and a lot of that has to do with the confusion over the photographs.. It's claimed on certain web sites that Rev. Browne only took a few photos of the Titanic, instead of the many he actually took, and attribute photos to him that he didn't take.
Agreed. Even with digital pictures, the timing it still absolutely everything. I treasure the first pictures of my mixed-media maritime art when I started at 10 26 years ago. I did not have the fuller forethought to take more of what I was doing to then accurately record what I did make. Now at over 300 works and a few exhibitions, its important to remember those first steps. (The original first piece of mine was recreated for the biggest show mostly because I still had the rudimentary parts and from memory!) With regards to the real ships mentioned here, we have to figure that Titanic was an evolutionary event before the sinking at a time when crossings were not as romanticized as they are now. If we were still traveling by ship as most people still were by the 1950s, we would probably not love it as much ;) (Who will remember jet liners until they are replaced by something new.)
I can imagine if there were cameras on board during the voyage they would have tried to capture the sinking with the lit flooded rooms. I wish something like that survived
Matt McAvay That’s interesting, never thought of that. It would have been cool to see photos of flooding rooms.
Did ya miss the part where low light conditions were a problem for taking pictures?
@@raymondmaurer1838 the power did stay on in the ship
I love these videos so much. I wish there was an actual Titanic University with a degree - I'd sign up for every one.
I wonder if the paint of Britannic on the side that she lay on is still somewhat intact?
I always get so excited when a new video is up keep up the great work
Amazing job on the video! It is still a great number of photographs considering the short amount of time Titanic was around.
Well done! Great video.
Great video as always :)
Not sure if this is the right conduit but may I make a suggestion for a future video? I've seen a lot of Titanic Elitism within the Titanic community where people tend to want to prove their knowledge and do so in a very patronizing way to others that may not know so much. I am not an expert by any means and never claim to be but have witnessed it on various platforms online especially some FB groups & I just feel it's so toxic. I've seen one lady I know post a photo of herself in the Thomson Dry Dock and because she got the name wrong, had a few people "correct her" in a very nasty way. Just was so unnecessary likewise today I just posted some artwork of Titanic found online that was never meant to be a true mathematical depiction of her at sea, it was just a beautiful piece of artwork of seeing the ship during the evening from a beach & someone proceeded to comment "a little too close to the shore" I just grit my teeth and think why? Why be that person? I've posted about it before and had a lot of people resonate with what I've said. I know it's only a few and thankful many of the community are gracious and happily share their knowledge without the elitist attitude.
You make some good points but you know, you're overly sensitive about it. It's NOT a perfect world -- remember that. We are in an age of Trump where nastiness and lies get you to the top. Sadly, that's the temper of the times -- and you just have to fight back.
@@mylesgarcia4625 appreciate your points, but kinda have to disagree that I'm being overly sensitive. I've witnessed & been on the receiving end of this form of elitism over the last 4 years since I became active in the Titanic world of social media. And I do often speak out, I'll pull them up and it's 50/50 response where they will take their posts down immediantley cause they know they've stepped out of line or they respond. I've spoken to loads of individuals about this sort of behavior exhibited by a few in men and women alike & people can't stand it. Just cause lies and being nasty gets you to the top doesn't make it right with all due respect.
Great collection to sift through the fake and genuine photos. Much needed, so thank you 🙏
Technically at the time it wouldn’t have been a flash bulb but a magnesium flash.
Can you do a video of all exterior pictures of Titanic?
It's too bad that Browne didn't snap a photo or two of the Grand Staircase on Titanic. Its possible that Titanic's Grand Staircase may have been slightly altered and may have been a little different than Olympic's Grand Staircase. But since there are no known photos of it. We may never really know.
This is so good and so informative, thank you.
Fantastic! Thank you
Wow this was a very informative video! Thank you! I didn't realize there were so few
Are there any pictures of the interior of the fantail or bow of Olympic?
I'd very interested to see what these parts of the ship , look like.
Thanks
Another great video Matt. Please do the THAG update videos!
Besides the gym instructor and guarantee man, I wonder how many in that dinning area went down with the ship. How many of those people in these photos was this the last picture of?
Matt, when you mention the Cork Examiner, would you care to expand on what retouching was done to that image please?
Ive often wondered how many pictures were taken while the maiden voyage was underway that went down with the ship.
I immediately said a guess of 40! Dunno how that just came to my head. Maybe I watch too much about titanic and that facts just came up at one point ? Love the history
What is the piano music in the background?? It's so good!
Love seeing the photos, but most of the ones of Titanic went by tooo fast(I want them to go exceedingly slow so I can look at EVERYTHING lol) unlike the ones shown of Olympic. THANKS for this video.
If you could photograph any room on the Titanic besides the grand staircase, what would it be?
Engine room.
aft staircase
Ismay's suite
engine room for sure
Garrett Green Either the F-deck landing of the first class stairwell, the Steam Room, or Scotland Road.
Even though there are only 39 photos of Titanic's interior, it has been emphasized that Olympic and Britanic's interior was almost identical.
Glad to find an American who can pronounce Promenade correctly. Very informative channel.
I wonder what was wrong with Brown's camera that it kept catching double exposures? I have one of those Kodak vestpocket cameras... maybe I'll tinker with it.
The size of an untrimmed contact print rules out that Browne used a Vest Pocket Kodak camera. Unfortunately it's unknown what type/brand of camera he did use. One thing is certain: it didn't have a double exposures prevention mechanism ;-) But that's true for all cameras in that era!
thank you so much
At 2:41 you show a picture of the reading room on A deck, I see this same photo in father Brownes titanic album ISBN 978-1-910248-27-0 and it said he took it on Titanic, but I agree it must be Olympic, how can that be, mmmmmm?
Now if we only knew what color things were! The sofas and chairs in the lounge were supposedly green, the restaurant (not shown here) was apparently gray and rose, and the linoleum floor in the dining room quite colorful in red, green, and blue.
Since the identical Olympic was already launched and photographed, Titanic was not a big deal when she launched
Yes. Curious to me how the White Star line wanted their new ships to have almost identical interiors. Often with “sister” ships each had their own look and identity (e.g. the Lusitania and Mauretania). Of course the Titanic had some features that were an improvement on the Olympic but essentially they were equally luxurious.
@@radamik Lusitania & Mauritania aren’t actually good examples of that. those sisters were built each by a different shipyard which wasn’t common at all. also, White Star had their own style of interiors that they included in all their ships since the RMS Oceanic (at least). especially seen with the first class Lounge(s).
Thank you
At 2:12, I think that's actually b-63 not b-57, I could be wrong tho
It is indeed B-57, it was one of the Modern Dutch rooms.
I wonder if there's been any digital retouching on the double exposures. The one in the Marconi room would probably be the easiest since it's not a true double. The camera jogged a bit causing the double image.
Me: Sees 0:24
Also me: *Rings Alstom to see if they can combo QM2 and trains*
How often do “New” photos of Titanic get discovered, or in this case rediscovered? Or what are the chances that more photos may be discovered.
It happens almost yearly- usually photos of her sailing. Our team at THG finds "new" Olympic photos weekly.
Titanic University Is there any place online in which these newly discovered photos can be seen?
Double exposures on antique cameras are extremely easy. The film advance, shutter wind, shutter release are all separate mechanisms. I learned photography on a 1930's-1940's 2.25" x 3.25" Speed Graphic, and often questioned myself if I had advanced the film or not. Classic photography is definitely and art where you learn for your mistakes.
Was that Molly Brown on the stationary bike?
No, that was a friend of Lawrence Beesley, who is also seen in the photo. 2nd class passengers were allowed to come and view the 1st class public rooms before departure from Southampton. 3rd class passengers were never given the chance.
Where's the photo taken by Browne of American Jacques Futrelle taken outside the gymnasium on the boat deck?. This is a very well known photo and appears on the Titanic photographs site. The site also includes the photo of Smith looking down from the bridge wing, but according to this video it wasn't taken by Francis Browne. Also, what about the photo taken on A deck which some say shows Capt Smith walking along the open end of the prom with his back to the camera as Titanic was off Portsmouth?, this is often credited to Browne.
What's the song at the end of the video? Or I guess the instrumental of it
Hey Matt, I remember that in one of your infrequent monthly status update (I think it was october's) Tom mentioned something about the Lusitania week and a real-time sinking animation. I looked for it in Titanic: Honor and Glory and it was never uploaded. Did you had no the time to do it or what happened?
By the way, great video. Love to be a student of this university
They said more news on that would be released after the Britannic game comes out.
@@brayson6889 Ohhhh ok. Same, Lusitania week is over now so
I wonder how is it possible that Father Francis Browne didn't take any photo of the Grand Staircase. I'm hoping that there are some in a private collector's hands and they will be released one day... :(
I agree. I wonder if it looked any different than Olympic. I've always wondered but that answer has been forever lost to time.
Yeah, I wonder why he didn’t decide to at least take a photo of the aft staircase, which would have been right outside of his cabin. If the staircase looked like anything as it did in Demos 2 and 3, surely there would be enough light in order to snap a good photo.
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I think the main reason (not mentioned in the video) that there are not many interior Titanic photos is because it sank. I'm sure other passengers had cameras that are now 12,000ft below the ocean. Father Browne also took a picture of Phillips and Bride on the ship.
Was Titanic journey back to Southampton booked up?
When was it meant to sail back to the uk
I thought the photo showing the lady and man on the boat deck was of a husband and wife couple, but according to this video they were just two random passengers that he photographed together; no mention of what class they were here, but from but I have read elsewhere they were second class passengers.
So who the took the photo of the family walking on the boat deck where we see one of the funnels to the right and deck chairs stacked uo?.
Well done, sir.