My parents lived with us for 15 years. It was one of the most challenging living arrangements I have ever been in. It was more difficult then raising children to be honest. However this families go to is to yell and blow things out of proportion and then apologize No one takes a moment to realize the situation and then speak.
@@exjehovahswitness It was actually one of the few things people in the congregation gave us kudos for. We did it with an open heart and joyful soul. Fortunately my parents always had their faculties pretty much in tact. Having someone with diminished cognitive issues is a real handful. However the family portrayed seems to use outbursts as their first line of communication, and them apologize after the fact
WOW! 15 years is a long time! We have my POMI mum living with us and we find our situation very challenging. Hopefully you can look back with love and be happy that you provided them with a safe and supportive environment in their older years.
@@jgallagher8633 Yes we moved in together in 2004. Dad passed in 2016 and mom in 2020. Not covid, hip slip and fall at a nursing home. Anyway she moved the nursing home in 2019. My parents were wonderful RE: The religion. We each respected the others opinion. My dad towards the end I know had doubts, but all his friends were there. He was never leaving, but he called out the BS he saw, including the selling of the halls after the borg stole them from the local congregations If you ever have questions about the living arrangements feel free to reach out. Good luck and you are a great person for taking care of your mum
when she said "I have to work at a real job." she put her in her place lol💀 but also I hate that the only reason she decided to talk to her sister again is because she wants her to do something for the organization Shes telling her "Your, not my sister unless you do something for my cult."
@@exjehovahswitness Imagine being told by a group of people who don't know you personally to cut off your own parent, sibling, child, grandparent, or close friend because it's a "gods loving way"? Yeah, it's so lovely to have trauma, unnecessary guilt depression anxiety It's lovely having to realize that you lived a lie and you have to unlearn everything you've been taught
As a person who believes in therapists to help u (I needed help as a teen to cope with the deathbof my mother but never got it until I was in my 30s. After the birth of my son, my mother's death hit me hard again n I got help. This scene where the desk got thrown out.......gave me ptsd just watching it. I still treasure my mother's jewellery box my dad gave me. The stupid script writer clueless just didn't get it.
Calling it toxic triggers assumptions, they don’t understand that a person can be equipped to handle situations and still do the right thing without being told or controlled, that’s because they present a polarised caricature of ideas which are not their approach
The scene where the family find outs the doctor wants to date her.......good lord. If this doesn't display the insanity of the JW life..... The whole family gets to pile on her for not saying no to this guy. The idea that she can handle it herself or that she can have any say over her own dating life is just completely off of their radar.
This portrayed exactly what my household was like. My dad wanted to control every aspect of his kids lives, even when we were adults. As long as we were under our roof, he wanted control, and he always thought his opinion was the right one. I dated a non witness at 21, he didn't like it, and told me I had to move out, it was the first time I ever saw my non witness mom step up and have a voice against my dad, and tell him that I'm not going to be kicked out.
These dramas remind me of how depressed and scared I always felt as a JW. I remember being about 6 and crying at a meeting because my dad, who was not a JW, was going to die at Armageddon. I’ve been out since 1995, had lots of therapy, and it’s only been the last couple of years that I am finally happy and at peace. This cult is horrific!
Im so sorry thats awful. Ya, even the sunshine is darker in these. So dark & depressing! Im a Christian & these are helping me understand & prepare to plant seeds to free the bound.
Our son never was interested. One meeting, im a adult not a child. The p talk was about Armageddon.....jesus n the qm144000 coming to execute......dead bodies all over the earth....birds of heaven eating their fleshly parts. I started to cry n cried at home on n off for a mth. I begged jah to do it to me but save my child n my grankids. How fked up is that. I'd heard it a billion times b4, but that day it really hit me hard. Did is really want to live forever (a lie) in paradise without my son n grankids.
@@susansage2796 Thanks for sharing your experience, I wonder why I couldn’t realize something is wrong of jw in the 90s. Had doubts but pushed it aside. May I ask, you able to wake up in ‘95, were you able to get away with the end day coming fear even had watching the news of the Signs that is written in the Bible? Since I remember the surroundings those days were especially expecting ‘99 doomsday.
I am the “Elena” sister who no longer goes to the meetings. It is very painful that the only way I can be a real part of my JW sister’s life is by going back to the cult. Outside of that, we can’t be close and it is such a hurtful way for JW to be. But they think they are the victims and it makes me sick.
Same here, my sister shunned me and says it was my choice. Everyone in the family joined her in shunning me when I stopped believing, and they all say it was my choice and they are the poor persecuted victims. It's so gross
The jws always paint themselves as victims because that's what WT propaganda reinforces. Just think of the deleted shunning videos, and I think it was the Sept 2021 WT magazine. There is no thought whatsoever given to the emotional needs of those shunned. It's the ultimate dehumanisation.
@@exjehovahswitness Your so right about that, I’ve personally known of two jws who committed suicide over self inflicted guilt… My wife and I are both exjws and in our cases we never experienced any of that emotional trauma, long story, not complaining 😊. All the best from canada!
This is manipulation! The woman in the drama is not approaching to her little sister out of pure LOVE, she only wants to adoctrinate her. So disgusting 🤮
What a true depiction of how witnesses really act and how they really are behind closed doors. I find it funny/ironic that they are so proud of these and not ashamed 😂
@@WWZenaDo yes. My JW mum is the same. 60 years of teaching at the meetings and this is reallity of our relationship. But as JW say: We are the happiest people in this world...
I believe that i was very messed up socially by being brought up a JW. Its not just the dating aspect, or dont have sex until being married, but when you are taught that non witnesses are evil, cant be true friends, theyll take you down an immoral path, you can feel isolated, alienated, have a lack of trust, and just never learn to integrate yourself with people other then JWs. It really can hurt many areas.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 vusi buddy, we are here to spread the truth of this cult. If we can save someone from this high control, mysoginistic, doomsday cult, which has a history of CSA, and hiding names and evidence, we will.
I once had a creepy old man in his 50s hit on me at work when I was 18. I had complained to HR who dealt swiftly with the matter. When I told my JW elder father what had happened he actually thought I had in some way “tempted this man”. First of all the clothes I had at the time were all picked out and “approved by my strict JW mom so there was no way to tempt this guy with any skimpy or revealing outfits . Other than the usual office chatter “how are you doing? Plans for the weekend sort of thing” nothing would have given this person any idea in the slightest I was interested. When he put flowers on my desk I told him in front of the whole office I wasn’t interested (a clear statement) and somehow my dad thought I was like that girl who didn’t tell that guy outright she wasn’t interested. That brought back memories!
God that’s horrible. It really is. And I thought having long rock n roll type hair as a guy was miserable. I couldn’t imagine having my own clothes picked out for me at that age
Please tell me you've now gotten a restraining order from your father... Because I can't imagine calling yourself a father and instantly thinking your child tempted unwanted attention instead of getting upset at the perpetrator themselves
Irene is like many JW women I knew. Always covering for the evil, cruel, judgmental spirit with a "Holier than Thou" attitude and scriptures to make themselves feel better for the crap they did to other people.
This issue isn't necessarily the no sex before marriage rule. It is the inability to meet and date different people so that YOU know what you want out of a relationship. You get to choose from one of the few JW mates your age, like it was some Jim Jones version of the Dating Game. And then, if you follow the rules, you are dating with a chaperone with you... that leaves NO way to make a personal connection on a romantic level with somebody. You can connect on a romantic level without sex... but you can't connect on that level with your mom sitting next to you on your date.... So this means when you marry you get to experience a lot of tough stuff right away: Do you connect emotionally one on one? How are you at sharing a home together? How are you at spending more time together and your irritating quirks? Do you even connect sexually? I can't tell you how many new marriages in the congregation turned to crap, with spouses yelling at each other all the time, and cheating. Or you get the creepy outcome, which is a girl turning 18 suddenly marrying a near 30 year old man.
It's for this very reason I allowed my JW daughter to be alone with her prospective JW man she was looking on marrying. I wasn't brought up as a JW, but came into the organisation at the age of 33. I lived with my prospective marriage partner for 8 yrs before we got married, so who was I to tell them they couldn't have their private time alone together. I let them alone in my daughters room, hoping they could discover each other more intimately before tying the knot.
I was a chaperone on a few occasions for one couple. In all honesty, it never made any sense to me, particularly because the couple were themselves at middle age. I found myself laughing the entire time, in terms of both the conversation and, in my mind, the sheer mindlessness of the situation. I came away from the experience with a sense that the Society actually wants couples to avoid even simple displays of affection until the speaker says they can kiss at the conclusion of the marriage ceremony. It's all a part of the patriarchal mentality inculcated by the Society which, in turn, fosters the attitude of marriage being nothing more-and nothing less-than a human property transaction as is presented in the Bible. As I've said before, the ERA goes against everything for which the Society stands! To say the very least, it's sickening!
I personally don't agree at all. Sexual repression did mess me up, big time. It was one of the biggest contributors to my trauma and anxiety, in so so many ways...
@@saltandlight2379because it’s easy for women to have sex, and cost men time and money to procure it. Anything easy is worth less than the hard attained
Why do you think she asked the question? lol It’s all about judgment all the time. Someone is always judging everything you do. The sister knows it and was sick of it.
What really strikes me is how sad and depressed and unhappy they all are. That is some industrial strength disfunction. It makes you wonder what the point of this is supposed to me for the rank and file JW. "Look at these people! Look how super unhappy they are! But they're serving Jehulahoop, so they have JOY!" UGH.
As someone who was baptized at 8 and now disassociated I was so happy to hear your point about the 7 year old who was baptized (who then left) being shunned compared to the unbaptized relative. It's sick that a person has to pay in that way because of a decision they made as a child. It's something I really struggle with but I am so glad to hear someone else vocalize it.
WOW THANKS FOR Showing this! Now I am reminded how much better off I am without all the BS!We take care of the people we love! Except when we have to shun them and disfellowship them, then we don't care if they die because the GB teaches us their already dead!
These dramas always uses soft, soothing music when it comes to emotional scenes. It's designed to play on the viewers emotions to manipulate them, brainwashing them deeper into believing WT is a loving organization.
That's why I speed the JW parts up to the highest possible play speed. Well, that, and the soft hypnosis technique that all Watchtower Society speakers appear to be using nowadays.
Who the hell he think yelling at? These “men” act this extremely with girls. Never boys. And let him be from the hall…he would push her on a boy just based on his JW stats…as if that makes you a good guy 😡
Ya know, for the happiest people on earth living their best life ever, they’re all portrayed as so miserable. Which is the actual truth of being a JDubz! 🤣
The dad reminds me of my dad. Anytime I had any issue growing up or my dad thought I did because JW's can make an issue out of anything. He would drag the Bible out to read a scripture or pray like any of that was an actual solution to any real situation in life.
Ugh! That had to be tough growing up with bible thumping! My PIMI parents would make a big deal out of everything too but at least they didn't haul out the New World Translation every time to make a point.
That sounds like my JW dad. No true talks, opinions, without dragging out a Bible, magazine, or book, and preaching at you for what seemed like hours. Even if my opinion was different then his, he'd have to explain why I was wrong.
@snowwhite2709 It would usually end with me crying that we couldn't have a real conversation and my dad getting mad that I didn't want to hear Jehovah's advice on the topic. I get you with the hours of being preached at, because JW's can't let something go until you just agree with it.
Fantastic summary! Love this passive aggressive nuclear family. Everyone is about to blow! Are witnesses in America still letter writing rather than witnessing.
This explains my experience with this group: already stressed with trying to live this extreme religion/insular group… leads to inappropriateness from members…frustrating those receiving the inappropriateness…frustration taken out on actual FaMiLy instead of the inappropriate member(s). Gotta keep up appearances. No need to be nice/kind/understanding to your own family!
This video certainly proves that Watchtower has absolutely no clue what goes on in the real world. So you might lose your job, oh well, then you will see what Jehovah will do...NOTHING! Wake up JWs! Love your funny interjections Wally. You ended the video purrfectly, Zeezy does make us smile! 😻
It should be more important than preaching, but my mother has chosen preaching over spending time with her grand daughter on several occasions. They are so frustrating.
Literally her mom needs to go to a therapy appointment but God would rather you go door to door preaching instead of helping your family. Also why couldn't she call other witnesses to help, seems like this isn't an organization that helps each other out and rather tells its members to prioritize the cult leadership and recruiting over the people who should matter.
Totally agree, Wally. The whole family is so insufferable. Can totally remember this highly critical, judgmental, over-bearing mindset from when I was a kid. All the behaviors are based on the Almighty's approval.
Wally you are so right they really are delusional. No question about it, the pills should not be with her, it common sense, they do not think it all about them, not the other person unless they look good to the congregation. Thank you Wally for being real and you have, common sense, never Stop, it helps me and others so mush, it really helps my soul, and you make me smile and laugh,"your great.!
Wow. I have so many thoughts and feelings about this particular drama and how it relates to my personal life. If I felt safer on here and didn't feel like I was talking too much, I'd spill my guts. That whole thing of making an effort with unbelieving family just to manipulate them into joining/returning is way too real for me. My parents even used to go as far as to play dramas like this for me and sit there staring at me the whole time (back when I still had to live there. I finally left in my mid 20s). It's partly why I find it so hard to trust people. I feel like people will only act like they like me if they can get something in return. That's JW love, even from parents. I only have 2 friends and even then I barely see them. This cult psychologically messed me up.
I can't like your content enough. I got married young, age 20, a virgin (outside of being SA). Never went on solo date b4 marriage. It's 20 years later, I no longer attend anything related to the religion, and I see just how unprepared I was for marriage and the real world. I went from being treated as a child to a wife overnight to a man I truly didn't know bc of the restrictions placed young ppl & women in that religion.
The worst part about the sister storyline is stuff like this keeps our families believing that one day we're coming back if they just keep shunning/ preaching at us long enough. It's infuriating.
Oh no... I'm not that far along in the drama, but OF COURSE the Watchtower Society would show the unbaptized sibling studying and falling for the bullcrap!! 🤦♀️
these really are very unlikable people. BTW, how many window washer, janitor, pioneering JWs can afford a nice house like they have? This would be so much more believable if they lived in a trailer park.
Love your videos! I can clarify a bit of the "rant" though. Drs do not hire RN/staff. They arent the supervisors. Office managers or units in hospitals hire & manage the staff. Drs date & marry in hospital staff pool all the time (mostly bc they dont have a life). I loved the comment though that he wont just move on to the nxt likable person. Their isea of any real life situation is sooo cringy!
The way they portray the worldly sister as rude, selfish, etc… It’s annoying how they portray all worldly people this way to make you believe that anyone outside the cult is evil and mean.
I remember once telling a close friend from high school that I didn't want to lose her when armageddon came. We were immediately no longer friends. Growing up a JW is the most lonely isolating experience, no wonder I have difficulty making friends today, and all of my closest friends I've known for 10-15 years.
You know how that goes…. While she was in college, there was sneering and “unofficial public reproof”. Once she graduated, it was “look at how well she does that important job! Now she can witness to her coworkers! Praise Jah!”
My God, this is dreadful. Every bit of joy and happiness are just drained dry from these folks. And God forbid you should not preach one day to take care of the people that matter most in your life. What a sick twisted cult. To think I gave over 40 years of my life to this makes me sick to my stomach.
That might be more about the number of vehicles the family is sharing rather than her having to be picked up because she can’t be trusted or needs to be escorted home. The father’s reaction to a seemingly nice guy harmlessly texting his daughter was more of a red flag for me. Max (the father) angrily and forcefully says ‘I taught you better!’ As if a woman who is old enough to hold down a job and pioneer shouldn’t have autonomy and make her own decisions about her life! 🤦🏽♀️
@@jgallagher8633 well that’s what I meant. He was going off as if she was still a child. The sister was snitching like it was nothing just reminds me of my house when I was younger. My sister had no loyalty to me what so ever but we still got along. It’s such weird dynamics. You can tell he Max keeps them on a short leash. In real life that would just make the doctor even more enticing
@@TB-mj7gt Sorry I misunderstood your first comment. Agree, that doctor is looking like an attractive option. Family dynamics can be stressful and confusing, throw in a doomsday cult and home might not always be the psychologically safest environment.
@@steviemichelle7271 it reminds me of my house. My dad actually went down to my sisters job to tell this guy to leave my sister alone. He brought me with him and It was so funny because the job was like hour from the house. We get in the hospital somehow track this guy down father saw him he walks up to him and says “leave my daughter alone”. Dude just has this wtf look on his face and we just leave. I never actually thought about it until watching this but it must of been so embarrassing the next day at work for my sister
Totally agree with what you said about the "sexual repression". It's not that big of a deal. I think ex-jws focus on that issue way too much. Lots of cultures encourage waiting until marriage to have sex, and before there were lots of ways to prevent pregnancy, it was much more common. At this point, most people don't wait, and that probably counts for JWs also.
It’s a bit different with jw. Your best friend will tell on you for having sex. Those other religions won’t have grown men coming to investigate how things went down.
@@TB-mj7gt there's a lot of people who don't ever tell anyone, just like in the general population. I think that sure, the level of control is higher and especially as it's tied to the approval of God and the org, but the general expectation (wait until marriage to have sex, don't watch porn) is not unusual historically or even in our modern era.
@@sarareimold3151 still no where near the same. For the simple fact in no other religion would you end up at a judicial meeting. That’s where the trauma from jw and other religions differ. Forget losing gods favor a jw losing EVERYTHING. The catholic that had sex will still be at thanksgiving dinner
For some, it's become a tired trope in that they'll use it as an excuse for the adulterous peccadillos in which they now choose to indulge. We can all name one particular high-profile case amongst former witnesses.
It's sad how JW's will think nothing of rejecting their aging parents if they are no longer serving Jehovah. If I came to the age of Irenes mother depicted in the video, and needed assistance, my JW daughter and son would throw me to the curb because I no longer believe what they do and am classified as an apostate. Where's the natural affection that should be forefront in a family? One of the signs of the last days' is natural affection will cool off, this is prevalent amongst JW's, who will quickly ditch their non believing JW family if they stopped believing and left the cult..
Ewwwww!!!! The learned helplessness hangs thick and dreary on the clammy grey walls of this drama, like slimy hanging moss in a mist-beridden slough from a gothic southern horror movie...
Hey a doctor has great prospects, he'd actually be a fantastic catch, he seems like a nice enough guy, what's wrong with dating him? Oh yeah, he's not a Jdub, best put him in his place real smart and tell him to never bug you again.
The mother would be better in her own home with carers if necessary. Some have lived in homes like this. Knowing what I know now I don't go within 20 yards of this kind of this behaviour. It can devastate your life for a long long time
On every Christmas, my grandma wanted us to come over to her house in the mountains, to cook a huge dinner for us. But my dad's girlfriend always was afraid of the snow there, and having an accident (she once toppled over their jeep in high snow, which then slid down a long slope through the woods!). My dad was allergic to the hair of my grandma's dog. And then there also was the obvious distress, and the lots of work and money this dinner always costed my grandma... Therefore, my dad offered to invite us all to her favorite restaurant one year, just to eaze things up a bit, and make everyone happy. But my grandma didn't like the idea. Then my dad and his then girlfriend agreed to have the Christmas dinner at their house, with his girlfriend doing the cooking, and him driving the 90 minutes to pick her up. My grandma didn't like this idea either, but she had to agree, because my dad gave her no chance to say no. And you know what? She hated every minute of her stay, every single bite of food she had, and every sip of every drink. She hated everything that was done and said. And she'd constantly let us know how she felt. It was awkward and miserable, and not festive, and a lot of distress. Just because she didn't want to be there! Because that's the way "Jehova" has made old people. They're grumpy. And they are obstinate. They have their habits and oppinions, and they don't have the time or the nerve to change things anymore. And they are simply pissed off, when their decisions or beliefs are overruled by others. Even if these rulings save their life, and/or make it much easier. It is what it is...
I feel really sorry for Irene. I would have NEVER relocated my Mother to my house, unless I had plenty of space for Her to have Her own area. Big fan of Assisted Living and Nursing Home facilities. No need to make one’s life plenty miserable.
You crack me up Wally with your facial expressions & commentary through out this video & others. Its just one of the reasons I am not just a subscriber but a member as well. One quality of your's that shines through the most. Is your kind heart & empathy .
I feel like Irene is tied with the mother from the Lot's Wife drama for most unlikable lead in a JW drama. Edit: The more I'm watching the drama, the more I'm thinking Irene's mom belongs in that ranking. No wonder Irene turned out to be such an unpleasant person.
My parents lived with us for 15 years.
It was one of the most challenging living arrangements I have ever been in.
It was more difficult then raising children to be honest.
However this families go to is to yell and blow things out of proportion and then apologize
No one takes a moment to realize the situation and then speak.
yeah I think I probably downplayed just how hard it can be....
@@exjehovahswitness
It was actually one of the few things people in the congregation gave us kudos for.
We did it with an open heart and joyful soul. Fortunately my parents always had their faculties pretty much in tact.
Having someone with diminished cognitive issues is a real handful.
However the family portrayed seems to use outbursts as their first line of communication, and them apologize after the fact
WOW! 15 years is a long time! We have my POMI mum living with us and we find our situation very challenging.
Hopefully you can look back with love and be happy that you provided them with a safe and supportive environment in their older years.
@@jgallagher8633
Yes we moved in together in 2004. Dad passed in 2016 and mom in 2020. Not covid, hip slip and fall at a nursing home.
Anyway she moved the nursing home in 2019.
My parents were wonderful RE: The religion. We each respected the others opinion.
My dad towards the end I know had doubts, but all his friends were there. He was never leaving, but he called out the BS he saw, including the selling of the halls after the borg stole them from the local congregations
If you ever have questions about the living arrangements feel free to reach out.
Good luck and you are a great person for taking care of your mum
@@exjehovahswitnessAre all the actors JWs?
when she said "I have to work at a real job." she put her in her place lol💀
but also I hate that the only reason she decided to talk to her sister again is because she wants her to do something for the organization
Shes telling her "Your, not my sister unless you do something for my cult."
yeah it's so sad how the normal family gets torn to shreds by these guys
@@exjehovahswitness Imagine being told by a group of people who don't know you personally to cut off your own parent, sibling, child, grandparent, or close friend because it's a "gods loving way"?
Yeah, it's so lovely to have trauma,
unnecessary guilt
depression
anxiety
It's lovely having to realize that you lived a lie and you have to unlearn everything you've been taught
As a therapist, it is painful to see them present this enmeshed family dynamic as normal- when it is actually toxic.
As a person who believes in therapists to help u (I needed help as a teen to cope with the deathbof my mother but never got it until I was in my 30s. After the birth of my son, my mother's death hit me hard again n I got help.
This scene where the desk got thrown out.......gave me ptsd just watching it. I still treasure my mother's jewellery box my dad gave me.
The stupid script writer clueless just didn't get it.
Calling it toxic triggers assumptions, they don’t understand that a person can be equipped to handle situations and still do the right thing without being told or controlled, that’s because they present a polarised caricature of ideas which are not their approach
yeah this must be brutal for you!
It is toxic but things that are toxic can also be normal one does not exclude the other, two things can be true at the same time.
So going out talking to ppl you don't know is more important thank taking your mom to the Dr.?! Wow that's actually sad!
Why is everyone in this family so snooty and passive aggressive??? Like none of these people seem kind.
Just your ideal JW family, living the best life ever
The scene where the family find outs the doctor wants to date her.......good lord. If this doesn't display the insanity of the JW life..... The whole family gets to pile on her for not saying no to this guy. The idea that she can handle it herself or that she can have any say over her own dating life is just completely off of their radar.
Exactly. She’s an ADULT, which they don’t respect at all.
yeah that's true! it's not an option for her at all. similar to a arranged marriage in some ways
This portrayed exactly what my household was like. My dad wanted to control every aspect of his kids lives, even when we were adults. As long as we were under our roof, he wanted control, and he always thought his opinion was the right one. I dated a non witness at 21, he didn't like it, and told me I had to move out, it was the first time I ever saw my non witness mom step up and have a voice against my dad, and tell him that I'm not going to be kicked out.
I’m sorry that this happened to you and simultaneously very happy that your mother supported you 😊!
Ooof! I remember similar situations. A basic txt would be a lecture session complete with scriptures...
These dramas remind me of how depressed and scared I always felt as a JW. I remember being about 6 and crying at a meeting because my dad, who was not a JW, was going to die at Armageddon. I’ve been out since 1995, had lots of therapy, and it’s only been the last couple of years that I am finally happy and at peace. This cult is horrific!
Im so sorry thats awful. Ya, even the sunshine is darker in these. So dark & depressing! Im a Christian & these are helping me understand & prepare to plant seeds to free the bound.
Our son never was interested. One meeting, im a adult not a child. The p talk was about Armageddon.....jesus n the qm144000 coming to execute......dead bodies all over the earth....birds of heaven eating their fleshly parts. I started to cry n cried at home on n off for a mth. I begged jah to do it to me but save my child n my grankids.
How fked up is that.
I'd heard it a billion times b4, but that day it really hit me hard. Did is really want to live forever (a lie) in paradise without my son n grankids.
good for you for doing the hard work and really healing!
@@exjehovahswitness thank you Wally! Your channel is my absolute favourite of any I watch. You’re helping so many of us. Sending ❤️
@@susansage2796 Thanks for sharing your experience, I wonder why I couldn’t realize something is wrong of jw in the 90s. Had doubts but pushed it aside. May I ask, you able to wake up in ‘95, were you able to get away with the end day coming fear even had watching the news of the Signs that is written in the Bible? Since I remember the surroundings those days were especially expecting ‘99 doomsday.
The organisation's subtle way of saying: "your time is ours. F**k everyone else".
true
I am the “Elena” sister who no longer goes to the meetings. It is very painful that the only way I can be a real part of my JW sister’s life is by going back to the cult. Outside of that, we can’t be close and it is such a hurtful way for JW to be. But they think they are the victims and it makes me sick.
Same here, my sister shunned me and says it was my choice. Everyone in the family joined her in shunning me when I stopped believing, and they all say it was my choice and they are the poor persecuted victims. It's so gross
The jws always paint themselves as victims because that's what WT propaganda reinforces. Just think of the deleted shunning videos, and I think it was the Sept 2021 WT magazine. There is no thought whatsoever given to the emotional needs of those shunned. It's the ultimate dehumanisation.
I am so sorry! it really sucks out here without our families
@@exjehovahswitness it's better with you here Wally ❤️
@@exjehovahswitness
Your so right about that, I’ve personally known of two jws who committed suicide over self inflicted guilt…
My wife and I are both exjws and in our cases we never experienced any of that emotional trauma, long story, not complaining 😊.
All the best from canada!
This is manipulation! The woman in the drama is not approaching to her little sister out of pure LOVE, she only wants to adoctrinate her. So disgusting 🤮
*indoctrinate
Sorry 😅
@@concamon1364thanks! Spanish native speaker in here, i said it like in spanish “adoctrinar” 😅😅
ain't no love in the organization
I really don't think they even know what love is when they are trapped in that mob-mentallity. 😕
@@ResearchThisThe Watchtower Society teaches Jehovah's Witnesses that abuse is "love". Sickening.
What a true depiction of how witnesses really act and how they really are behind closed doors. I find it funny/ironic that they are so proud of these and not ashamed 😂
I love how the old lady is wrecking havoc on an already dysfunctional family.
she came in pretty freaking hot!
The old lady's JW thinking is a significant factor in the family's dysfunctionality.
@@WWZenaDo yes. My JW mum is the same. 60 years of teaching at the meetings and this is reallity of our relationship. But as JW say: We are the happiest people in this world...
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@@veronikj.4231 Oh, wow... I'm sorry that you have to deal with that.
I remember my elder dad saying if you’re texting, then you’re dating 🙄🤦🏻♀️🤣
I believe that i was very messed up socially by being brought up a JW. Its not just the dating aspect, or dont have sex until being married, but when you are taught that non witnesses are evil, cant be true friends, theyll take you down an immoral path, you can feel isolated, alienated, have a lack of trust, and just never learn to integrate yourself with people other then JWs. It really can hurt many areas.
I feel that! that did far more damage to me then not having sex did for sure!
@@exjehovahswitnessJesus sent you to preach about the JW's????????
Jesus sent you to preach about the JW's??????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 vusi buddy, we are here to spread the truth of this cult. If we can save someone from this high control, mysoginistic, doomsday cult, which has a history of CSA, and hiding names and evidence, we will.
@@vusimngomezulu2500Does Jesus want a psychopath preaching here?????
I once had a creepy old man in his 50s hit on me at work when I was 18. I had complained to HR who dealt swiftly with the matter. When I told my JW elder father what had happened he actually thought I had in some way “tempted this man”. First of all the clothes I had at the time were all picked out and “approved by my strict JW mom so there was no way to tempt this guy with any skimpy or revealing outfits . Other than the usual office chatter “how are you doing? Plans for the weekend sort of thing” nothing would have given this person any idea in the slightest I was interested. When he put flowers on my desk I told him in front of the whole office I wasn’t interested (a clear statement) and somehow my dad thought I was like that girl who didn’t tell that guy outright she wasn’t interested. That brought back memories!
God that’s horrible. It really is. And I thought having long rock n roll type hair as a guy was miserable. I couldn’t imagine having my own clothes picked out for me at that age
Please tell me you've now gotten a restraining order from your father... Because I can't imagine calling yourself a father and instantly thinking your child tempted unwanted attention instead of getting upset at the perpetrator themselves
The father: “I taught you better than this, and you are being a complete sluuuuu#$#” 😂😂
Yep, Max has a few red flags. Growing up as a female, and/or being a woman, in this cult is pretty crapy.
This is the worst drama. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Yeah depresses and triggers seeing all the unhealthy abusive ways we were stuck in
Not for wordly people, I love how they portray us. Thats all I want to hear how bad we are.
it really is
Worst drama, yes Darren, I agree, BUT THE VERY BEST REBUTTAL I'VE EVER SEEN! Wally is BRILLIANT,!!👏👏👏👏😂😂😂😂
Agreed, the worst since 2016, when we had the guy losing his dad and son, and some the basement issues...
Irene is like many JW women I knew. Always covering for the evil, cruel, judgmental spirit with a "Holier than Thou" attitude and scriptures to make themselves feel better for the crap they did to other people.
You’ve met my mother I see! You have described her perfectly, thanks for the enlightenment 💖
This issue isn't necessarily the no sex before marriage rule. It is the inability to meet and date different people so that YOU know what you want out of a relationship. You get to choose from one of the few JW mates your age, like it was some Jim Jones version of the Dating Game. And then, if you follow the rules, you are dating with a chaperone with you... that leaves NO way to make a personal connection on a romantic level with somebody. You can connect on a romantic level without sex... but you can't connect on that level with your mom sitting next to you on your date.... So this means when you marry you get to experience a lot of tough stuff right away: Do you connect emotionally one on one? How are you at sharing a home together? How are you at spending more time together and your irritating quirks? Do you even connect sexually?
I can't tell you how many new marriages in the congregation turned to crap, with spouses yelling at each other all the time, and cheating. Or you get the creepy outcome, which is a girl turning 18 suddenly marrying a near 30 year old man.
It's for this very reason I allowed my JW daughter to be alone with her prospective JW man she was looking on marrying. I wasn't brought up as a JW, but came into the organisation at the age of 33. I lived with my prospective marriage partner for 8 yrs before we got married, so who was I to tell them they couldn't have their private time alone together. I let them alone in my daughters room, hoping they could discover each other more intimately before tying the knot.
I was a chaperone on a few occasions for one couple. In all honesty, it never made any sense to me, particularly because the couple were themselves at middle age. I found myself laughing the entire time, in terms of both the conversation and, in my mind, the sheer mindlessness of the situation. I came away from the experience with a sense that the Society actually wants couples to avoid even simple displays of affection until the speaker says they can kiss at the conclusion of the marriage ceremony. It's all a part of the patriarchal mentality inculcated by the Society which, in turn, fosters the attitude of marriage being nothing more-and nothing less-than a human property transaction as is presented in the Bible. As I've said before, the ERA goes against everything for which the Society stands! To say the very least, it's sickening!
@@thomash.schwed3662 well said.
100% the whole process really sets people up to be stuck in a loveless marriage without the tools or resources to fix it!
Watchtower really out here making fun of themselves with these videos. Her sister spoke facts when she called her out for not having a real job lol
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You're absolutely correct! The Society is calling itself in that scene. However, witnesses don't realize that fact. It is sadly ironic!
I personally don't agree at all. Sexual repression did mess me up, big time. It was one of the biggest contributors to my trauma and anxiety, in so so many ways...
That is so true.
The guilt and shame associated with what is a natural desire along with the entire submission for women narrative can be very harmful
I agree too. We live in a society that sees women as less valuable when they have sex even though sex is totally natural
absolutely agree with you
It taught me self control and discipline, I’m now out the org and successful
@@saltandlight2379because it’s easy for women to have sex, and cost men time and money to procure it. Anything easy is worth less than the hard attained
No judgement? Right. Nothing but judgement. Such bullshit
Why do you think she asked the question? lol It’s all about judgment all the time. Someone is always judging everything you do. The sister knows it and was sick of it.
What really strikes me is how sad and depressed and unhappy they all are. That is some industrial strength disfunction. It makes you wonder what the point of this is supposed to me for the rank and file JW. "Look at these people! Look how super unhappy they are! But they're serving Jehulahoop, so they have JOY!"
UGH.
Giant 🦞 shaving balls is one hell of a visual😂
As someone who was baptized at 8 and now disassociated I was so happy to hear your point about the 7 year old who was baptized (who then left) being shunned compared to the unbaptized relative. It's sick that a person has to pay in that way because of a decision they made as a child. It's something I really struggle with but I am so glad to hear someone else vocalize it.
Yes..."It's life, Jim. But not as we know it...."😂
True morality is when you do the right thing without fear or hope of reward or punishment
Wow, what a grumpy bunch of ladies
Don’t forget Max’s red flags!
WOW THANKS FOR Showing this! Now I am reminded how much better off I am without all the BS!We take care of the people we love! Except when we have to shun them and disfellowship them, then we don't care if they die because the GB teaches us their already dead!
These dramas always uses soft, soothing music when it comes to emotional scenes. It's designed to play on the viewers emotions to manipulate them, brainwashing them deeper into believing WT is a loving organization.
That's why I speed the JW parts up to the highest possible play speed. Well, that, and the soft hypnosis technique that all Watchtower Society speakers appear to be using nowadays.
This family deserve each other
Who the hell he think yelling at? These “men” act this extremely with girls. Never boys. And let him be from the hall…he would push her on a boy just based on his JW stats…as if that makes you a good guy 😡
Like mother, like daughter. Irene and her mother like throwing out other people's stuff without asking.
Ya know, for the happiest people on earth living their best life ever, they’re all portrayed as so miserable. Which is the actual truth of being a JDubz!
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That was exactly what I was thinking! They don’t seem very happy at all. 😂
The dad reminds me of my dad. Anytime I had any issue growing up or my dad thought I did because JW's can make an issue out of anything. He would drag the Bible out to read a scripture or pray like any of that was an actual solution to any real situation in life.
Ugh! That had to be tough growing up with bible thumping! My PIMI parents would make a big deal out of everything too but at least they didn't haul out the New World Translation every time to make a point.
That sounds like my JW dad. No true talks, opinions, without dragging out a Bible, magazine, or book, and preaching at you for what seemed like hours. Even if my opinion was different then his, he'd have to explain why I was wrong.
@snowwhite2709 It would usually end with me crying that we couldn't have a real conversation and my dad getting mad that I didn't want to hear Jehovah's advice on the topic. I get you with the hours of being preached at, because JW's can't let something go until you just agree with it.
Fantastic summary! Love this passive aggressive nuclear family. Everyone is about to blow! Are witnesses in America still letter writing rather than witnessing.
Thanks for putting this together.
I fucking lost it at "previously, on LOST" XD
holy shit that was a nice touch. Great video Wally :)
Rather then call this a drama they should call it a awkward.
You have my vote 😂
This explains my experience with this group: already stressed with trying to live this extreme religion/insular group… leads to inappropriateness from members…frustrating those receiving the inappropriateness…frustration taken out on actual FaMiLy instead of the inappropriate member(s). Gotta keep up appearances. No need to be nice/kind/understanding to your own family!
This video certainly proves that Watchtower has absolutely no clue what goes on in the real world. So you might lose your job, oh well, then you will see what Jehovah will do...NOTHING! Wake up JWs! Love your funny interjections Wally. You ended the video purrfectly, Zeezy does make us smile! 😻
It should be more important than preaching, but my mother has chosen preaching over spending time with her grand daughter on several occasions. They are so frustrating.
Literally her mom needs to go to a therapy appointment but God would rather you go door to door preaching instead of helping your family. Also why couldn't she call other witnesses to help, seems like this isn't an organization that helps each other out and rather tells its members to prioritize the cult leadership and recruiting over the people who should matter.
Totally agree, Wally. The whole family is so insufferable. Can totally remember this highly critical, judgmental, over-bearing mindset from when I was a kid. All the behaviors are based on the Almighty's approval.
How is Irene going to deal with explosions and fireballs at Armegeddon if she can’t get through this petty stuff?
Bruh 💀💀💀💀
Wally you are so right they really are delusional. No question about it, the pills should not be with her, it common sense, they do not think it all about them, not the other person unless they look good to the congregation. Thank you Wally for being real and you have, common sense, never Stop, it helps me and others so mush, it really helps my soul, and you make me smile and laugh,"your great.!
Wow. I have so many thoughts and feelings about this particular drama and how it relates to my personal life. If I felt safer on here and didn't feel like I was talking too much, I'd spill my guts.
That whole thing of making an effort with unbelieving family just to manipulate them into joining/returning is way too real for me. My parents even used to go as far as to play dramas like this for me and sit there staring at me the whole time (back when I still had to live there. I finally left in my mid 20s).
It's partly why I find it so hard to trust people. I feel like people will only act like they like me if they can get something in return. That's JW love, even from parents. I only have 2 friends and even then I barely see them.
This cult psychologically messed me up.
Medicine should be kept inside at room temperature. Being outside in the sun can change them.
Wally, I almost spit my coffee out when you gave your scenario about drinking Drano and shaving your balls! You are a riot
They live in a unrealistic and overly critical world. So sadly it's hard to live happily.
Hi Wally ‼️😅
Thank you for another wonderful, creative & funny video‼️🌺☯️
soo...she is patiently waiting for her mother to die?
What horrible awful people I'm going down on my knees and thanking baby Jesus that my family was never exposed to JW.
I can't like your content enough. I got married young, age 20, a virgin (outside of being SA). Never went on solo date b4 marriage. It's 20 years later, I no longer attend anything related to the religion, and I see just how unprepared I was for marriage and the real world. I went from being treated as a child to a wife overnight to a man I truly didn't know bc of the restrictions placed young ppl & women in that religion.
My mom is like her. Always mad.
I am sorry, some people I think really enjoy being miserable
Thanks Wally 🧡
$ CULT $
The worst part about the sister storyline is stuff like this keeps our families believing that one day we're coming back if they just keep shunning/ preaching at us long enough. It's infuriating.
Oh no... I'm not that far along in the drama, but OF COURSE the Watchtower Society would show the unbaptized sibling studying and falling for the bullcrap!! 🤦♀️
these really are very unlikable people.
BTW, how many window washer, janitor, pioneering JWs can afford a nice house like they have? This would be so much more believable if they lived in a trailer park.
Love your videos! I can clarify a bit of the "rant" though. Drs do not hire RN/staff. They arent the supervisors. Office managers or units in hospitals hire & manage the staff. Drs date & marry in hospital staff pool all the time (mostly bc they dont have a life). I loved the comment though that he wont just move on to the nxt likable person. Their isea of any real life situation is sooo cringy!
hey thanks for the clarity on that!
So all those medical romance books I read as a teenager are true!! 😂😂😂
The way they portray the worldly sister as rude, selfish, etc… It’s annoying how they portray all worldly people this way to make you believe that anyone outside the cult is evil and mean.
Why they all sound so depressed?
I guess is what they believe that doesn't make any sense, puts them in a depressing mood
Irene throwing out that desk is truly horrendous behaviour
This is supposedly about a mother with dementia but some can have these traits without dementia.
I remember once telling a close friend from high school that I didn't want to lose her when armageddon came. We were immediately no longer friends. Growing up a JW is the most lonely isolating experience, no wonder I have difficulty making friends today, and all of my closest friends I've known for 10-15 years.
Is she a nurse?! I thought Watchtower frowned on higher education.
You know how that goes…. While she was in college, there was sneering and “unofficial public reproof”. Once she graduated, it was “look at how well she does that important job! Now she can witness to her coworkers! Praise Jah!”
Watching this is so cringe to the point im in hysteria watching this 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so glad I never followed dating advice from this organisation
My God, this is dreadful. Every bit of joy and happiness are just drained dry from these folks. And God forbid you should not preach one day to take care of the people that matter most in your life. What a sick twisted cult. To think I gave over 40 years of my life to this makes me sick to my stomach.
I love your reviews of this series!
The more worship decays, the more the Watchtower feeds its followers of rot.
This is hard to watch! And these GB members have Holy What?
Spirits. Like scotch
Thank God Watchtower is going out of Business SOON
The crazy part she has to be at least 18 being she got picked up from a hospital job.
That might be more about the number of vehicles the family is sharing rather than her having to be picked up because she can’t be trusted or needs to be escorted home.
The father’s reaction to a seemingly nice guy harmlessly texting his daughter was more of a red flag for me. Max (the father) angrily and forcefully says ‘I taught you better!’ As if a woman who is old enough to hold down a job and pioneer shouldn’t have autonomy and make her own decisions about her life! 🤦🏽♀️
@@jgallagher8633 well that’s what I meant. He was going off as if she was still a child. The sister was snitching like it was nothing just reminds me of my house when I was younger. My sister had no loyalty to me what so ever but we still got along. It’s such weird dynamics. You can tell he Max keeps them on a short leash. In real life that would just make the doctor even more enticing
@@TB-mj7gt Sorry I misunderstood your first comment. Agree, that doctor is looking like an attractive option.
Family dynamics can be stressful and confusing, throw in a doomsday cult and home might not always be the psychologically safest environment.
She said she’s not a teenager anymore when her dad was hovering over her in the kitchen. So now we know she’s at least in her early 20s
@@steviemichelle7271 it reminds me of my house. My dad actually went down to my sisters job to tell this guy to leave my sister alone. He brought me with him and It was so funny because the job was like hour from the house. We get in the hospital somehow track this guy down father saw him he walks up to him and says “leave my daughter alone”. Dude just has this wtf look on his face and we just leave. I never actually thought about it until watching this but it must of been so embarrassing the next day at work for my sister
Zeze? Nice kitty! 🥰
And she is obviously doing the supervision while you work. Good kitty! 👍🥰
The most disturbing thing about this soap opera is the absence of canned laughter of dead people
Sadly Watchtower LIES have destroyed so many lives RIP Raymond Franz please read Crisis of Conscience
Totally agree with what you said about the "sexual repression". It's not that big of a deal. I think ex-jws focus on that issue way too much. Lots of cultures encourage waiting until marriage to have sex, and before there were lots of ways to prevent pregnancy, it was much more common. At this point, most people don't wait, and that probably counts for JWs also.
It’s a bit different with jw. Your best friend will tell on you for having sex. Those other religions won’t have grown men coming to investigate how things went down.
@@TB-mj7gt there's a lot of people who don't ever tell anyone, just like in the general population. I think that sure, the level of control is higher and especially as it's tied to the approval of God and the org, but the general expectation (wait until marriage to have sex, don't watch porn) is not unusual historically or even in our modern era.
@@sarareimold3151 still no where near the same. For the simple fact in no other religion would you end up at a judicial meeting. That’s where the trauma from jw and other religions differ. Forget losing gods favor a jw losing EVERYTHING. The catholic that had sex will still be at thanksgiving dinner
It's especially irritating when certain exJW's use sexual repression as an excuse for doing things that never-JWs would be horrified by.
For some, it's become a tired trope in that they'll use it as an excuse for the adulterous peccadillos in which they now choose to indulge. We can all name one particular high-profile case amongst former witnesses.
Wonder why she can't on Wednesday? What is she probably doing on Wednesday 🤔🤔🤔🤫
Excellent video Wally! Thanks ❣️ 😊
Your coverage of these are always on POINT!! Thank you 🙏
So ridiculous 😨 the pills part😱 you don't leave pills on the table when she is Alzheimer! And you can ask for dispills prepared at your pharmacy 😊
It's sad how JW's will think nothing of rejecting their aging parents if they are no longer serving Jehovah. If I came to the age of Irenes mother depicted in the video, and needed assistance, my JW daughter and son would throw me to the curb because I no longer believe what they do and am classified as an apostate.
Where's the natural affection that should be forefront in a family? One of the signs of the last days' is natural affection will cool off, this is prevalent amongst JW's, who will quickly ditch their non believing JW family if they stopped believing and left the cult..
Ewwwww!!!! The learned helplessness hangs thick and dreary on the clammy grey walls of this drama, like slimy hanging moss in a mist-beridden slough from a gothic southern horror movie...
Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. 😂😂
They are so damn judgmental!
What is this? Wow these dramas are getting stranger every year.
Trust me
The situation is FIRM, especially with the Doctor
Snitch ass sister.
Hey a doctor has great prospects, he'd actually be a fantastic catch, he seems like a nice enough guy, what's wrong with dating him? Oh yeah, he's not a Jdub, best put him in his place real smart and tell him to never bug you again.
13:35 "these need more than salt. Irene, they need Jesus, are you skipping on praying over meals too now?"
15:35 lol its my JW family. Seriously all JWs are like this!!!
Big Sky Jehovah Daddy 💃🏽🍿new level unlocked ✔️🤣
The mother would be better in her own home with carers if necessary. Some have lived in homes like this. Knowing what I know now I don't go within 20 yards of this kind of this behaviour. It can devastate your life for a long long time
On every Christmas, my grandma wanted us to come over to her house in the mountains, to cook a huge dinner for us.
But my dad's girlfriend always was afraid of the snow there, and having an accident (she once toppled over their jeep in high snow, which then slid down a long slope through the woods!). My dad was allergic to the hair of my grandma's dog.
And then there also was the obvious distress, and the lots of work and money this dinner always costed my grandma...
Therefore, my dad offered to invite us all to her favorite restaurant one year, just to eaze things up a bit, and make everyone happy.
But my grandma didn't like the idea.
Then my dad and his then girlfriend agreed to have the Christmas dinner at their house, with his girlfriend doing the cooking, and him driving the 90 minutes to pick her up. My grandma didn't like this idea either, but she had to agree, because my dad gave her no chance to say no.
And you know what?
She hated every minute of her stay, every single bite of food she had, and every sip of every drink. She hated everything that was done and said. And she'd constantly let us know how she felt.
It was awkward and miserable, and not festive, and a lot of distress. Just because she didn't want to be there!
Because that's the way "Jehova" has made old people. They're grumpy. And they are obstinate. They have their habits and oppinions, and they don't have the time or the nerve to change things anymore.
And they are simply pissed off, when their decisions or beliefs are overruled by others. Even if these rulings save their life, and/or make it much easier.
It is what it is...
I feel really sorry for Irene. I would have NEVER relocated my Mother to my house, unless I had plenty of space for Her to have Her own area. Big fan of Assisted Living and Nursing Home facilities. No need to make one’s life plenty miserable.
The whole thing is so cringe. Just....ugh.
What did she get in the mail at the end?!!!
You crack me up Wally with your facial expressions & commentary through out this video & others. Its just one of the reasons I am not just a subscriber but a member as well. One quality of your's that shines through the most. Is your kind heart & empathy .
How old is that daughter? Everyone all up in her business 😑😂
Bro, you do amazing work with these vids. They’re insightful, comical, and sooooo healing. Much love from Brooklyn
It's worse than last year. This situations make me feel sick. They are really as robots.
Psychodad
This is truly the Adam’s Family of the Watchtower. Weird.
I feel like Irene is tied with the mother from the Lot's Wife drama for most unlikable lead in a JW drama.
Edit: The more I'm watching the drama, the more I'm thinking Irene's mom belongs in that ranking. No wonder Irene turned out to be such an unpleasant person.