Wow! Deck ovens are REALLY expensive in the US! We live in India, and we get amazing deck ovens that can be configured to run on electricity or LPG for as low as $800 USD (60,000 INR approx.)! A rotary rack oven here costs around $2000 USD for a 12 rack unit that can be configured to run on multiple fuel sources like electricity, LPG, Diesel, or even firewood. Great content btw... very informative! :)
@@LoveLevain haha you can check out th-cam.com/users/hindchef - they are based in New Delhi (India's capital) and they do export globally if I'm not wrong. Most of their channel content is in hindi, but I'm pretty sure they will have folks who speak english as well if you ever place an enquiry with them. I recently consulted with them about a deck oven, but they really wanted to sell me their rotary rack oven, but i'm not ready for such a large setup! Like you, I am looking to set up a micro-bakery first before choosing to expand to a larger production line. These folks help setup LARGE industrial bakery lines that can generate as much as 5000kg produce a day! I'm looking to hit a max of 50 to 80 kilos a day to begin with! (that's roughly 120 to 200 loaves of sourdough bread a day.
Wow, 120-200 loaves a day is not that "micro" at all! I will look into this link, thanks for sending it. I would love to hear about your progress as well :)
Great info and thanks for all the insights! I am looking now at a two deck oven from POLIN, which is italian. What is your feedback on this oven? and eventually, I need to install a hood that comes out of the roof by 8 meters long, is this efficient enough to extract the heat or CO2 and does it smell? I appreciate your input on this.
Check this video out: th-cam.com/video/IOcJkka5mzY/w-d-xo.html There are also a couple of more that talk specifically about the hood makeup air: th-cam.com/video/MXMD5o4CLkk/w-d-xo.html and more... Let me know if this doesn't help answer your questions!
Heya dude. If you haven't had to decide yet I would push you to try an Axis (made in Italy) steam injected electronic controlled reversible fan convection oven. I bake 60 lbs a week sourdough only at home and have a 9 year old son full time. Will post a video I'd you want me to. Promise.you this blows away deck oven in every way possible.
Oh most definitely they offer a single phase option, that's what all residential have and that's what I'm ordering. The only way to use 3-phase equipment in a residential environment is if you use something like a rotary phase converter, which is not recommended if you have an alternative. One of the key reasons I went with ABS was because they offer the oven in single phase.
Oh absolutely you could use a pizza oven to bake bread. Some even come with steam like "PizzaMaster" ovens. But due to non-compete clauses, you can't get steam on all decks for PizzaMaster. One deck has to be without steam They also typically don't come with proofing cabinets built in. Sometimes the deck itself might have a lower ceiling height which is perfect for pizza but not so much for a big rising loaf of bread. Since the cost is comparable, most people who primarily bake bread use a dedicated traditional deck oven. Then you can use it for everything including pizza.
@@LoveLevain Thanks for the reply back. I'm in Canada,so I am not sure if I can get a Pizza master oven,without breaking the bank.Most pizza ovens that I see for sale in Canada are a lot cheaper than than hearth bread oven.We also don't have many options like you do in the U.S.A.So if I where to get a Pizza oven for bread,what type of specifications would I be looking for or need?Thanks
I have been told that manufacturers will not honor warranties if commercial oven is installed in a residence. Also that oft me can mess up your homeowners insurance. What are your thoughts or discoveries?
Great point Steve and I have seen that listed on some websites, specifically Webstaurant. They even charge you more on shipping items to a residence as opposed to a business. My experience with this has been that as long as the service required is not obscenely complicated or expensive, they will honor their warranty and not ask questions. If you look on my blog (wheatbeat.com/hobart-n50-mixer-review/), towards the end I talk about my service experience with Hobart. They came to my house multiple times and did required work for free and they knew up-front when I called for service that it was a residence. No problem for them at all. So I think it depends on the manufacturer more than anything else. They also realize that some folks may do professional baking from their home so they need to be careful about what they consider "residential use". When you're buying a $15,000 oven, I would guess they assume it's not going to be used by amateurs; therefore, I don't think they would hesitate to honor their warranty even if it was technically installed in a house. As far as homeowner's insurance, I have not really looked into that (maybe I should) but if you want the expensive equipment to be covered for theft/damage/breakage/etc then you would ask them to add it to the policy like you would if you had a lot of jewelry, guns, or other things that not everyone has in their home.
Wow! Deck ovens are REALLY expensive in the US! We live in India, and we get amazing deck ovens that can be configured to run on electricity or LPG for as low as $800 USD (60,000 INR approx.)! A rotary rack oven here costs around $2000 USD for a 12 rack unit that can be configured to run on multiple fuel sources like electricity, LPG, Diesel, or even firewood. Great content btw... very informative! :)
Thank you for watching. Sounds like I need to import my new oven from India :) !!
@@LoveLevain haha you can check out th-cam.com/users/hindchef - they are based in New Delhi (India's capital) and they do export globally if I'm not wrong. Most of their channel content is in hindi, but I'm pretty sure they will have folks who speak english as well if you ever place an enquiry with them. I recently consulted with them about a deck oven, but they really wanted to sell me their rotary rack oven, but i'm not ready for such a large setup! Like you, I am looking to set up a micro-bakery first before choosing to expand to a larger production line. These folks help setup LARGE industrial bakery lines that can generate as much as 5000kg produce a day! I'm looking to hit a max of 50 to 80 kilos a day to begin with! (that's roughly 120 to 200 loaves of sourdough bread a day.
Wow, 120-200 loaves a day is not that "micro" at all! I will look into this link, thanks for sending it. I would love to hear about your progress as well :)
Same thought as Samyara..I just priced a two deck oven here in China for about 2000 USD!
Great info and thanks for all the insights! I am looking now at a two deck oven from POLIN, which is italian. What is your feedback on this oven? and eventually, I need to install a hood that comes out of the roof by 8 meters long, is this efficient enough to extract the heat or CO2 and does it smell? I appreciate your input on this.
Check this video out: th-cam.com/video/IOcJkka5mzY/w-d-xo.html
There are also a couple of more that talk specifically about the hood makeup air: th-cam.com/video/MXMD5o4CLkk/w-d-xo.html and more...
Let me know if this doesn't help answer your questions!
How long does it take to heat up? That’s a sweet oven.
From on to loading loaves, 1 hour.
@@LoveLevain nice. how much did the oven cost? 50/4 = $12.5K?
About $15k for both decks
Heya dude. If you haven't had to decide yet I would push you to try an Axis (made in Italy) steam injected electronic controlled reversible fan convection oven. I bake 60 lbs a week sourdough only at home and have a 9 year old son full time. Will post a video I'd you want me to. Promise.you this blows away deck oven in every way possible.
Thanks for the tip, will check it out.
Which size you used please
Great information.... Question ...Does ABS offer a single phase deck oven? or are you going to have to have 3 phase installed for it?
Oh most definitely they offer a single phase option, that's what all residential have and that's what I'm ordering. The only way to use 3-phase equipment in a residential environment is if you use something like a rotary phase converter, which is not recommended if you have an alternative. One of the key reasons I went with ABS was because they offer the oven in single phase.
@@LoveLevain Awesome....Thanks so much for the info...I'll have to contact them to get a quote... !!!
What if you baked bread in a pizza oven?would that work? You would only have to add steam Which you can by putting some some lave stones inside.
Oh absolutely you could use a pizza oven to bake bread. Some even come with steam like "PizzaMaster" ovens. But due to non-compete clauses, you can't get steam on all decks for PizzaMaster. One deck has to be without steam They also typically don't come with proofing cabinets built in. Sometimes the deck itself might have a lower ceiling height which is perfect for pizza but not so much for a big rising loaf of bread.
Since the cost is comparable, most people who primarily bake bread use a dedicated traditional deck oven. Then you can use it for everything including pizza.
@@LoveLevain Thanks for the reply back. I'm in Canada,so I am not sure if I can get a Pizza master oven,without breaking the bank.Most pizza ovens that I see for sale in Canada are a lot cheaper than than hearth bread oven.We also don't have many options like you do in the U.S.A.So if I where to get a Pizza oven for bread,what type of specifications would I be looking for or need?Thanks
I have been told that manufacturers will not honor warranties if commercial oven is installed in a residence. Also that oft me can mess up your homeowners insurance. What are your thoughts or discoveries?
Great point Steve and I have seen that listed on some websites, specifically Webstaurant. They even charge you more on shipping items to a residence as opposed to a business. My experience with this has been that as long as the service required is not obscenely complicated or expensive, they will honor their warranty and not ask questions. If you look on my blog (wheatbeat.com/hobart-n50-mixer-review/), towards the end I talk about my service experience with Hobart. They came to my house multiple times and did required work for free and they knew up-front when I called for service that it was a residence. No problem for them at all. So I think it depends on the manufacturer more than anything else. They also realize that some folks may do professional baking from their home so they need to be careful about what they consider "residential use". When you're buying a $15,000 oven, I would guess they assume it's not going to be used by amateurs; therefore, I don't think they would hesitate to honor their warranty even if it was technically installed in a house. As far as homeowner's insurance, I have not really looked into that (maybe I should) but if you want the expensive equipment to be covered for theft/damage/breakage/etc then you would ask them to add it to the policy like you would if you had a lot of jewelry, guns, or other things that not everyone has in their home.
I guess based on the subject matter it seems appropriate that you look baked in this video.
I wasn't making brownies, you know...
@@LoveLevain lol, must be allergies then, your eyes are crazy red in this video.
The sound is rubbish mate, can't hear a thing
Check your computer's sound my friend, the sound seems to be just fine for others.
Sounds perfect to me. Great info man! thanks