The catacombs were likely to have originally been deathbird structures and are locations dealing specifically with death so most of them should be fairly old
I like this idea, especially considering that some theorize that the "Divine Bird" spoken about in the Divine Bird Warrior descriptions might have been the Twinbird or a deathbird
The curseblades posture and appearance resemble the deathbirds to much and they have some attacks that look similar. Also they likely tried simulating the ghostflame priest lifestyle to attain some sort of enlighten state. The hornsent grandam also has an incantations too similar to that of Rancor incantations.
@@phantomleaves And another food for thoughts, the weapon arts that uses the power of storm are using a eagle crest, as well as a lot of lore from eagles (like the spirit summon) uses wind, as well as the divine bird warriors are said to originated not only from a bird (the ashes of divine bird warrior tells us that he *took* the wings) as well as a whole divine warrior culture, and (speculation) maybe acrusable knights, who are horsent deserters
I love the idea of rot thriving in the aftermath of fire. In Calid the Red Mane knights use fire to fight the giant birds and dogs. I would love it if the desolation brought on by that fire was somehow what was feeding the rot or making it that much stronger
She wasnt "allowed" to survive. Look at the trailer again - shes been approached by soldiers. I figure this is right before she transforms, and kills them
I think they just cared more about burning the church, not carings who is in it. They seemed pretty focused on destroying the specimen storage for instance, even though they didn't go through with it, so we could see it instead.
Agree! I saw lots of people complain that she was too easy, but IDK she has that “dance” element that souls vets always say ER bosses lack. I find her incredibly fun
The butterfly attack and dialogue are likely mean to be Romina's interpretation of spirit calling and use of the Rauh Spritestone knowledge. She calls on the spirits to inhabit the butterflies help power her attack and then they explode similarly to the Spritestones. The knowledge of spirits and souls is the thread that links all of the DLC lore. The church of the bud and the hornsent seemed to have worked together very closely, in Romina's boss room their is a hornsent column with a bud on top and in Enir-Illim you can find stone tablets depicting what looks like an Aeonian tree. Throughout Enir-illim there are clues that this two groups worked together to achieve something that was once practiced long ago but is lost today, something like the growing of Aeonian trees. I speculate this simply because the Ancient dynasty Obelisk and stone tablets in enir-illim depict Aeonian trees and the huge Aeonian tree in caelid looks to similar to both depictions. My fringe lore theory is that Marika was likely part of the church of the bud and rose through the ranks eventually stole some buds, with the use of her blood and holy magic, she grew both the Erdtree and Scadutree. This act allowed her to create a cult and organization capable of fighting the hornsent.
That’s an interesting theory regarding Marika! Yeah there is that bud statue that looks a lot like scarlet aeonia and other bud symbolism, I should have talked about that. I don’t think that it and the other aeonian imagery was associated with scarlet rot when it was built though. There is the fact that Miranda flowers are aspects of the Crucible, and the Miranda flowers do spray poison which is associated with the Outer God of Rot, and also the possibility that scarlet rot is merely a malignant manifestation that only appeared when the Rune of Death was sealed, so maybe there is something there…
@@phantomleaves I personally have speculated that scarlet rot originated from an animal most likely a scorpion. Romina influence enlarges scorpion and the stinger dagger mentions it came from a scorpion. Scarlet rot somehow got infused to Aeonian trees. some civilization experimented with the scarlet rot and it ended up in a plant, I doubt we will find any real clues to this idea.
i think the shaman connection has some real credence. as the hornsentwere trying to create "saints" out of the shamans. i always did wonder what kind of saint this would be and i guess the romina kind is what they wanted. but why exactly is the question
I actually think Marika's ascension to godhood was what the Hornsent were trying to make. She was perfect in every way but the most important---she was filled with murderous hatred towards them and their society rather than benevolence and dedication to their wellbeing. As for why the Hornsent empire was trying to do this in the first place, here is my theory: I think the "fly sickness" is the core of their motivations, the slow and painful mutation of Hornsent into fly monsters that caused whole villages to be wiped out. It is called a "sickness" but I do not think it is one at all, just the next step in Hornsent evolution. The Hornsent were creatures of the Crucible of Life---hence their animalistic features such as fur, claws and most importantly their horns. The Crucible combines various aspects of animals into random shapes and the Hornsent were the pinnacle of this evolution, intelligent, powerful and able to establish a massive civilization. But the Crucible is random and fickle and I think it slowly began to change what traits were expressed in the Hornsent. This translated into them slowly turning into fly creatures and losing their higher intelligence. Obviously this was a disaster that would destroy them as people and cause the ruin of everything they built. So a plan was hatched (how that happened is part of another theory of mine). They would create a being capable of harnessing the power of the Crucible. An intelligent vessel for this powerful force of nature. A god who would weild this power with the best interests of the Hornsent at heart. To create this vessel they engaged in horrific methods and Marika was the most successful. But the Greater Will took that opportunity to "claim" their would-be god for itself and thus rather than a vessel of the Crucible who would preserve their empire and people, an Outer God was able to hijack their project to gain a handhold on the world and Marika was able to take hideous vengeance against them.
It should be noted that the Japanese word used to describe the Jar "Saints" is different then the one used for Romina and Trina Romina and Trina both use Saint in the religious context wheras the Jarsaints are "saints" as in "Good people" The Hornsent weren't trying to make Holy figures out of the Jars, the Jars were their form of "rehabilitating" bad people into good ones. Like the Jars in the Lands Between are made of dead people, but they themselves have their own unique new personality. This is what the Hornsent are doing to prisoners, recycling them into new "people" We see one of the Hornsent ghosts in Belurat Gaol talking about this, begging not to be put in the Jar and promising he will be a "living saint" So by all accounts, the connection between Romina and the Jars are a translation oversight because they used the same word to describe two different things
@@Skibbutzi thought that was the case, they really need to hire a better localization team, way too many things are misunderstood because of poor translation. After all the success this game had, i really hope they step up their game for the next one, the performance and garbage textures need some work too. People give them a pass so often because they are actually good games, but from a technical perspective Fromsoft is still stuck in the early 2010s
@@Skibbutz Thanks for that information! In a way that patches a hole in my theory so it's quite helpful. Adding this distinction between the names, it is possible that when the Hornsent empire undertook their desperate attempt to create a being who would control the Crucible and thus save them from further evolution, they (like many real life civilizations) chose to use their prisoners, their criminals and their unwanted as test subjects before they came upon the idea of using humans, particularly Shamen. I could see their reasoning in a number of ways; why would they fashion human flesh into the divine when they could use their own people? And considering the horrors involved, it would make sense to use those who were considered disposable by their empire's viewpoint, perhaps even with the added self righteous addition of making these deplorables into lifeforms who would save their people.
I lost like 4 times to Romina for no other reason than her soundtrack is so fucking good it moves me to TEARS. It sounds like her grief and sadness made tangible. I started crying and got tears on my glasses and that was the end of my current attempt at beating her. I couldn’t even get mad cause I was like “girl I know I don’t wanna kill you either but the TREE!” 😂😂
Children of the tower could be referring to her being older then the current hornsent. Butterflies take wing was probably what she would say during her stage transition.
@@arianightrose4792 yeah maybe, but it does imply some authority and separation imo. So in this case she would be a Hornsent that doesn’t have relation to the tower? Seems odd but I guess it’s possible
@@FoolOfDust94032 I don't see a reason why the horned warriors in Midra's Manse are not associated with the tower, but that is a great point about the Divine Bird Warriors! We don't know when they originated, but it could have been before Enir ilim was constructed.
@@phantomleaves No your right, the horned warriors were from the tower, I was referring to regular shadow hornsent there. Though Midra's lot could've been a part of Belurat culture, I just thought with how far the abyss is from the gravesite plain, they went to do their own thing, to free from the religious dogma of Belurat.
There was one massive discovery on reddit I believe you should take into account; The same figure with a flat top depicted in the Rauh Ruins can be found as a much smaller statue in Farum Azula, carrying a child, as part of the family of the " King" depicted. I don't think it's precisely Romina; the Pests are intelligent enough to recognise there has been a history before them. This was likely her and Malenia's predecessor.
To expand the idea Romina is a shaman, you are likely aware of the theory that Marika was a successful jar saint created by the Hornsent. Given the Hornsent refers to these beings as saints. Romina may have these title as she was another, less powerful success. If the Hornsent revered them as saints, then they would have given them positions within the Hornsent religion. While Marika would betray the Hornsent for her own purposes, Romina accepted her role in Hornsent society. Then when Mesmer invaded, he was likely under orders to spare all Shaman who survived, so the soldiers left her alone after destroying her culture. In her despair she accepted the Scarlet Rot and used the Shaman's ability to graft to merge herself with the insect and flower aspects of the Rot into her and become a maternal demigoddess for the Children of the Rot. She had lost one congregation and replaced it with another.
Thats a good suggestion! But it looks like they are different flowers, the ones on the Radagon Icon are a single bloom rather than a cluster. I do wonder about Radagon's connection to the realm of shadow and the scadutree, the "impenetrable thorns" and even the Radafruit ("rada" uses the same kanji for both) definitely imply a connection. Since its tangentially implied that The Erdtree = Marika, perhaps the Scadutree = Radagon? All are linked by the ER, with one being the other half or shadow of the other? Its tenuous but maybe there is something worth exploring there...
I read the “golden” part as a descriptor so it’s the Crucible, the primordial form of the Erdtree where “all life was blended together.” I think of it as the driving force behind life and evolution. But the talisman called Talisman of All Crucibles seems to imply that there may be more than one Crucible which is…interesting to say the least. I’m slowly working on a vid regarding my interpretation of the Crucible
I have a theory about why Romina has 5 seeds on her chest. I think the 5 seeds represent 5 people: Millicent and her 4 sisters. Reasons: 1. She wanted the buds to spread and grow again. 2. Millicent doesn't know why she is related or drawn to Mellania. Just that she could be a sister or off shoot. 3. Sage Gowry is a Kindred of Rot, and his whole goal was to help Millicent grow and blossom as a Scarlet Valkyrie. It could all be coincidental, however it really seems like there is no other reason to place 5 seeds on her chest.
I kinda thought they were bug eyes but seeds make sense too! And depending on when you place the crusade in the timeline your theory could make a lot of sense. Though I don't think Gowry is a KoR, if you kill him he says something like "we'll meet again, there are countless pests to choose from," so I think its more like a possession
@@phantomleaves Gowry is a strange character to me still. If you kill Gowry at a certain point, his body is Kindred of Rot. However, He says there are many pests to choose from and leaves the body. Like he is the spirit of the outer god of rot itself. It reminded me of how 'Shabriri' possessed people to further the Frenzied Flame. Do you think that the 'Forager Brood' and the 'Kindred of Rot' are the same thing? Or 2 different factions of pests?
@@mcsquared5005 yeah I’m not too sure what Gowry is. He seems to be connected to Sellia, but I don’t have a firm opinion. As for the forager brood stuff, my take is that Kindred of Rot are the species, Forager Brood is a faction of the KoR, and Pest is a slur lol
I seriously do not like this enemy design at all I think it looks really really not good lol... Like honestly she got the worst of all of the different possibilities, regarding all of the different kinds of ways in which her strange mutations could have possibly manifested it's as.
I have to unfortunately agree, I want to like her design so badly but its just so lame. She conjured a new form that could be anything at all and it ended up being a sexy booby lady with a literal centipede half and a literal scorpion side it just seems so uninspired.
it's awful but its perfect to what fromsoft have been attributing to the Hornsent and their society, the spiral, scorpions and an applied law of Regression. The Hornsent have take knowledge from previous civilizations and have combined and refined it to suit their goals, that's how you end with a dancing lion capable of using ice, lightning and storms.
Fun fact: Out of everything we encounter throughout Elden Ring, Romina definitively has the most feet
just as miyazaki intended
Shoeless, but never maidenless
Truly the best girl with the best feet
She's perfect 😍
The catacombs were likely to have originally been deathbird structures and are locations dealing specifically with death so most of them should be fairly old
I like this idea, especially considering that some theorize that the "Divine Bird" spoken about in the Divine Bird Warrior descriptions might have been the Twinbird or a deathbird
The curseblades posture and appearance resemble the deathbirds to much and they have some attacks that look similar. Also they likely tried simulating the ghostflame priest lifestyle to attain some sort of enlighten state. The hornsent grandam also has an incantations too similar to that of Rancor incantations.
@@phantomleaves And another food for thoughts, the weapon arts that uses the power of storm are using a eagle crest, as well as a lot of lore from eagles (like the spirit summon) uses wind, as well as the divine bird warriors are said to originated not only from a bird (the ashes of divine bird warrior tells us that he *took* the wings) as well as a whole divine warrior culture, and (speculation) maybe acrusable knights, who are horsent deserters
I love the idea of rot thriving in the aftermath of fire. In Calid the Red Mane knights use fire to fight the giant birds and dogs. I would love it if the desolation brought on by that fire was somehow what was feeding the rot or making it that much stronger
that is a cool contrast I agree
She wasnt "allowed" to survive. Look at the trailer again - shes been approached by soldiers. I figure this is right before she transforms, and kills them
Idk to me it looks like they are walking past her
I think they just cared more about burning the church, not carings who is in it. They seemed pretty focused on destroying the specimen storage for instance, even though they didn't go through with it, so we could see it instead.
Romina is one of my favorite bosses in the DLC, such a fun moveset to combat
Agree! I saw lots of people complain that she was too easy, but IDK she has that “dance” element that souls vets always say ER bosses lack. I find her incredibly fun
The butterfly attack and dialogue are likely mean to be Romina's interpretation of spirit calling and use of the Rauh Spritestone knowledge. She calls on the spirits to inhabit the butterflies help power her attack and then they explode similarly to the Spritestones. The knowledge of spirits and souls is the thread that links all of the DLC lore.
The church of the bud and the hornsent seemed to have worked together very closely, in Romina's boss room their is a hornsent column with a bud on top and in Enir-Illim you can find stone tablets depicting what looks like an Aeonian tree. Throughout Enir-illim there are clues that this two groups worked together to achieve something that was once practiced long ago but is lost today, something like the growing of Aeonian trees. I speculate this simply because the Ancient dynasty Obelisk and stone tablets in enir-illim depict Aeonian trees and the huge Aeonian tree in caelid looks to similar to both depictions.
My fringe lore theory is that Marika was likely part of the church of the bud and rose through the ranks eventually stole some buds, with the use of her blood and holy magic, she grew both the Erdtree and Scadutree. This act allowed her to create a cult and organization capable of fighting the hornsent.
That’s an interesting theory regarding Marika!
Yeah there is that bud statue that looks a lot like scarlet aeonia and other bud symbolism, I should have talked about that. I don’t think that it and the other aeonian imagery was associated with scarlet rot when it was built though.
There is the fact that Miranda flowers are aspects of the Crucible, and the Miranda flowers do spray poison which is associated with the Outer God of Rot, and also the possibility that scarlet rot is merely a malignant manifestation that only appeared when the Rune of Death was sealed, so maybe there is something there…
@@phantomleaves I personally have speculated that scarlet rot originated from an animal most likely a scorpion. Romina influence enlarges scorpion and the stinger dagger mentions it came from a scorpion.
Scarlet rot somehow got infused to Aeonian trees. some civilization experimented with the scarlet rot and it ended up in a plant, I doubt we will find any real clues to this idea.
i think the shaman connection has some real credence. as the hornsentwere trying to create "saints" out of the shamans. i always did wonder what kind of saint this would be and i guess the romina kind is what they wanted. but why exactly is the question
I actually think Marika's ascension to godhood was what the Hornsent were trying to make. She was perfect in every way but the most important---she was filled with murderous hatred towards them and their society rather than benevolence and dedication to their wellbeing.
As for why the Hornsent empire was trying to do this in the first place, here is my theory:
I think the "fly sickness" is the core of their motivations, the slow and painful mutation of Hornsent into fly monsters that caused whole villages to be wiped out.
It is called a "sickness" but I do not think it is one at all, just the next step in Hornsent evolution.
The Hornsent were creatures of the Crucible of Life---hence their animalistic features such as fur, claws and most importantly their horns. The Crucible combines various aspects of animals into random shapes and the Hornsent were the pinnacle of this evolution, intelligent, powerful and able to establish a massive civilization.
But the Crucible is random and fickle and I think it slowly began to change what traits were expressed in the Hornsent. This translated into them slowly turning into fly creatures and losing their higher intelligence. Obviously this was a disaster that would destroy them as people and cause the ruin of everything they built.
So a plan was hatched (how that happened is part of another theory of mine). They would create a being capable of harnessing the power of the Crucible. An intelligent vessel for this powerful force of nature. A god who would weild this power with the best interests of the Hornsent at heart.
To create this vessel they engaged in horrific methods and Marika was the most successful. But the Greater Will took that opportunity to "claim" their would-be god for itself and thus rather than a vessel of the Crucible who would preserve their empire and people, an Outer God was able to hijack their project to gain a handhold on the world and Marika was able to take hideous vengeance against them.
It should be noted that the Japanese word used to describe the Jar "Saints" is different then the one used for Romina and Trina
Romina and Trina both use Saint in the religious context wheras the Jarsaints are "saints" as in "Good people"
The Hornsent weren't trying to make Holy figures out of the Jars, the Jars were their form of "rehabilitating" bad people into good ones. Like the Jars in the Lands Between are made of dead people, but they themselves have their own unique new personality. This is what the Hornsent are doing to prisoners, recycling them into new "people"
We see one of the Hornsent ghosts in Belurat Gaol talking about this, begging not to be put in the Jar and promising he will be a "living saint"
So by all accounts, the connection between Romina and the Jars are a translation oversight because they used the same word to describe two different things
@@Skibbutzi thought that was the case, they really need to hire a better localization team, way too many things are misunderstood because of poor translation.
After all the success this game had, i really hope they step up their game for the next one, the performance and garbage textures need some work too. People give them a pass so often because they are actually good games, but from a technical perspective Fromsoft is still stuck in the early 2010s
@@Skibbutz Thanks for that information! In a way that patches a hole in my theory so it's quite helpful.
Adding this distinction between the names, it is possible that when the Hornsent empire undertook their desperate attempt to create a being who would control the Crucible and thus save them from further evolution, they (like many real life civilizations) chose to use their prisoners, their criminals and their unwanted as test subjects before they came upon the idea of using humans, particularly Shamen.
I could see their reasoning in a number of ways; why would they fashion human flesh into the divine when they could use their own people?
And considering the horrors involved, it would make sense to use those who were considered disposable by their empire's viewpoint, perhaps even with the added self righteous addition of making these deplorables into lifeforms who would save their people.
I lost like 4 times to Romina for no other reason than her soundtrack is so fucking good it moves me to TEARS. It sounds like her grief and sadness made tangible. I started crying and got tears on my glasses and that was the end of my current attempt at beating her. I couldn’t even get mad cause I was like “girl I know I don’t wanna kill you either but the TREE!” 😂😂
LOL I feel this so much 🥲
Children of the tower could be referring to her being older then the current hornsent. Butterflies take wing was probably what she would say during her stage transition.
@@arianightrose4792 yeah maybe, but it does imply some authority and separation imo. So in this case she would be a Hornsent that doesn’t have relation to the tower? Seems odd but I guess it’s possible
@@phantomleavesI mean the divine bird warriors are hornsent not from the tower and same with the non-inquisitor hornsent at Midra's Manse.
@@FoolOfDust94032 I don't see a reason why the horned warriors in Midra's Manse are not associated with the tower, but that is a great point about the Divine Bird Warriors! We don't know when they originated, but it could have been before Enir ilim was constructed.
@@phantomleaves No your right, the horned warriors were from the tower, I was referring to regular shadow hornsent there. Though Midra's lot could've been a part of Belurat culture, I just thought with how far the abyss is from the gravesite plain, they went to do their own thing, to free from the religious dogma of Belurat.
@@FoolOfDust94032 Ah ok, yeah that could absolutely be the case!
Saint Romina: 🌸♦️
Loved the lord theories. Thx.
Thanks for watching!
There was one massive discovery on reddit I believe you should take into account;
The same figure with a flat top depicted in the Rauh Ruins can be found as a much smaller statue in Farum Azula, carrying a child, as part of the family of the " King" depicted.
I don't think it's precisely Romina; the Pests are intelligent enough to recognise there has been a history before them. This was likely her and Malenia's predecessor.
Oh interesting! I'll have to check that out
To expand the idea Romina is a shaman, you are likely aware of the theory that Marika was a successful jar saint created by the Hornsent. Given the Hornsent refers to these beings as saints. Romina may have these title as she was another, less powerful success. If the Hornsent revered them as saints, then they would have given them positions within the Hornsent religion. While Marika would betray the Hornsent for her own purposes, Romina accepted her role in Hornsent society. Then when Mesmer invaded, he was likely under orders to spare all Shaman who survived, so the soldiers left her alone after destroying her culture. In her despair she accepted the Scarlet Rot and used the Shaman's ability to graft to merge herself with the insect and flower aspects of the Rot into her and become a maternal demigoddess for the Children of the Rot. She had lost one congregation and replaced it with another.
I like the art recording whilst you explain the lore, very enjoyable to watch.
@@pineal0ptics928 thank you very much!
You’re welcome. Do you have an art page anywhere? Would like to see more.
@@pineal0ptics928 Not yet, that is something I want to do though
@@phantomleaves i hear you man, when the time is right. Liked and subbed anyway , keep up the good work
@@pineal0ptics928 thanks you so much! When I do get to it I'll share a link
… thought she was just another random sexy woman boss you fight = Exactly like Malenia.
I mean she is that too 🐛
Check out the Radagon Icon Talisman. The flowers on it look like the unique white flowers.
Thats a good suggestion! But it looks like they are different flowers, the ones on the Radagon Icon are a single bloom rather than a cluster. I do wonder about Radagon's connection to the realm of shadow and the scadutree, the "impenetrable thorns" and even the Radafruit ("rada" uses the same kanji for both) definitely imply a connection.
Since its tangentially implied that The Erdtree = Marika, perhaps the Scadutree = Radagon? All are linked by the ER, with one being the other half or shadow of the other? Its tenuous but maybe there is something worth exploring there...
She got me full on scaroused
420 Queen 🎉
@@jaymenjanssens720 I can’t believe I made the whole video without a SINGLE ganja joke smh 🤦
@@phantomleaves 🤞only a matter of time before someone names her strain
I cannot honestly say that I would not smoke upon Romina's sacred bud
you have nice voice hope you make it big 1 day
@@Luxxxor thank you 😊
What is the Golden Crucible?
I read the “golden” part as a descriptor so it’s the Crucible, the primordial form of the Erdtree where “all life was blended together.” I think of it as the driving force behind life and evolution.
But the talisman called Talisman of All Crucibles seems to imply that there may be more than one Crucible which is…interesting to say the least. I’m slowly working on a vid regarding my interpretation of the Crucible
she is a saint.. a successful saint maybe after mesmer burned the place voluntarily became one
This is what I feel. She achieved true martyrdom and became a saint of rot by ecological niche.
I have a theory about why Romina has 5 seeds on her chest.
I think the 5 seeds represent 5 people: Millicent and her 4 sisters.
Reasons:
1. She wanted the buds to spread and grow again.
2. Millicent doesn't know why she is related or drawn to Mellania. Just that she could be a sister or off shoot.
3. Sage Gowry is a Kindred of Rot, and his whole goal was to help Millicent grow and blossom as a Scarlet Valkyrie.
It could all be coincidental, however it really seems like there is no other reason to place 5 seeds on her chest.
I kinda thought they were bug eyes but seeds make sense too! And depending on when you place the crusade in the timeline your theory could make a lot of sense.
Though I don't think Gowry is a KoR, if you kill him he says something like "we'll meet again, there are countless pests to choose from," so I think its more like a possession
@@phantomleaves Gowry is a strange character to me still. If you kill Gowry at a certain point, his body is Kindred of Rot.
However, He says there are many pests to choose from and leaves the body. Like he is the spirit of the outer god of rot itself. It reminded me of how 'Shabriri' possessed people to further the Frenzied Flame.
Do you think that the 'Forager Brood' and the 'Kindred of Rot' are the same thing? Or 2 different factions of pests?
@@mcsquared5005 yeah I’m not too sure what Gowry is. He seems to be connected to Sellia, but I don’t have a firm opinion.
As for the forager brood stuff, my take is that Kindred of Rot are the species, Forager Brood is a faction of the KoR, and Pest is a slur lol
I seriously do not like this enemy design at all I think it looks really really not good lol... Like honestly she got the worst of all of the different possibilities, regarding all of the different kinds of ways in which her strange mutations could have possibly manifested it's as.
I have to unfortunately agree, I want to like her design so badly but its just so lame. She conjured a new form that could be anything at all and it ended up being a sexy booby lady with a literal centipede half and a literal scorpion side it just seems so uninspired.
it's awful but its perfect to what fromsoft have been attributing to the Hornsent and their society, the spiral, scorpions and an applied law of Regression. The Hornsent have take knowledge from previous civilizations and have combined and refined it to suit their goals, that's how you end with a dancing lion capable of using ice, lightning and storms.
Man I think you are in the tiny minority on that one. Romina is so sick, got me all scaroused at the same time