You know you can have park gates that charge an amount of your choice and the ai goes through them so you could have theoretically 30 gates charging $50
@@fang4223 The first fire department in America was a volunteer one. You don't need people standing around waiting for fires 24/7, you need people willing to be available during a local emergency. At least, until cities and infrastructure become so complicated that it takes dedicated training and equipment to perform the task. Systems only work within the framework they were born in. Volunteer firefighting worked when every building was single floor, and water pressure was buckets and hand pumps. Professional firefighting works when you have to have equipment for fire hydrants, entire city blocks are skyscrapers that need specialized ladders and tools to enter, and you are expected to enter fully engulfed buildings with specialized suits and respirators. I don't expect Africa to have professional firefighters, and I don't expect China to have volunteers.
Mom, come in here! The frog guy built a city again! No, not the one that drank the funny liquid and made the poop volcano; the one who made the poop tsunami! YES there’s a difference
Well, the fire department will show up and refuse to put out the fire on your house if you don’t pay your taxes. They are only there to stop it spreading to your neighbors.
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Uneducated doesnt mean dumb, and most kids after school are still dumb, and you can learn all the theoretical stuff from internet anyway and you wont be 100k in debt
There is exactly one parking lot that in CS2 that can generate more parking fee revenue than maintenance cost. This combined with electricy export revenue and education fees makes all negative tax city possible. Also the highly educated people left because all of the offices went out of business with max taxes so they had no hobs. If they have big houses and good services you can sometimes keep them even either very high taxes
Couldn't you also make a zero tax city work by just doing insider trading the entire time and generating massive profits off the stock exchange to keep your city afloat?
The inherent flaw in the test is that the game doesn't allow for private necessary services, only the ones you personally cover the budget for. In real life a dentist can come and open his own clinic, in the game all dentists are entirely reliant on your federal budget to exist...apply this to every service and there's the problem. You can't make anarchistic or libertarian states in any meaningful sense when the idea that you're in charge of a bigger government is literally the purpose of the game
I love how stupid libertarians are. Capitalism is a system of forced labor, the purpose of the State is to make capital accumulation possible, yet you're idiots and think that the very instrument of capitalist class rule is Communism.
Cities Skylines lacks the amazing Toxic Waste, Casino, Maximum Security Prison and garbage deals of Sim City 3000. That game could be possible to 0% tax while still having services.
Sounds like paradise! Surely nothing could go wrong in this much more advanced simulation, compared to all the previous attempts, of course. True tax-free city has never been tried!
Ive been sick for the last two days and i found your channel and have been bingeing your city skylines videos but i was sad to see that you only had 5-6 of them. i open youtube my first recommended video was this one, your videos made my day, thanks so much
Maybe in cities skylines 3 they'll have wells, septic tanks, and household solar arrays so we can revisit Libertopia. That's effectively where I'm already living. My compliments to the chef.
But this begs the question, in Ancapistan, *who are you playing...?* You fraud, you liar; that was no Ancapistan - you were the state! Smhing my head so hard rn
@@MichaelfromtheGravesOn the one hand the efficiency of the American city at generating traffic should not be underestimated (a suburb of even just 5000 people at rush hour is terrifying) On the other hand the path finding is probably worse than you think. Cars clog buss only roads entirely and instantly, you can watch the repeated U-Turns as the parking space across the map that a car is going to gets taken, and all power and water of a sufficiently dense city will operate at 50% efficiency as the garbage AI is physically incapable of figuring out how to collect trash from it.
@@MichaelfromtheGraves The pathfinding might be bad, but the biggest problem here was; him zoning everything in while paused and when he finally did unpause the game, all the people moving in spawned at the same time. And with only one way to reach the city (this intersection at 3:12), it's no wonder why the pathfinding looks that bad.
I forgot who did it, but I remember seeing someone make a city with a population of 1. They did it by exporting wind and solar power iirc, in theory you could use the same method to make a 0% tax city
It's actually easier to make a 0% tax city in cities skylines with the new economy update. Since if you slowly lower taxes, people will just have more disposable income to pay tax using city services
.... Was that a subtle 9/11 nod there at the end? Cut the video right as the camera's about to crash into a skyscraper, with a jet engine sound phasing in... Oh AA, you silly silly boi.... :D
I have a very prosperous city that makes millions per month using 0% residential, 3% commercial with 0% on food, and 5% on industry and office. Growth gives more money than a high %, and that's with more services and public transit than I could ever do with a high tax rate.
funny story, there was a glitch pre-economy update and it gave my city a ton tax of money if i "paid" certain industries. it let me pay everyone else in the city for simply existing with plenty of money to spare. true tax free city at ~300k population
Is there a mod that lets you stop people from moving out? So that people can only leave your city through death? That sounded more grim that I intended it to.
I'm honestly surprised you haven't done a Soviet Republic video yet. I feel that would be another game you could squeeze content out of easily from people lol.
So what you're saying is, we could disincentivize poverty by taxing it away and redistribute the wealth to the upper classes in order to expand said upper classes?
There should be more realistic way of companies paying city to build shady businesses, changing local laws and destroying competition. With that mod it would be real life city simulator 😅
me in my libertarian anarchidt utopia when the private monsanto school wont accept my amazon company credits i earned by working the 20th 16 hour shift in a row
Horseshoe centrist amphibian (much love) doesn't know libertarian or communist practical theory plus is creating the city in a simulation based on neoliberal conservative concepts of capitalism. Oof.
Is there a simulation that is more based off of communist concepts of capitalism? I like these kinds of games, but they get really boring with their simplistic views on government
@@jacobash5904: You'd have a hard time getting it funded. That the purpose of the State is to dominate the working class on behalf of the capitalists would be seen as outlandish amongst a group of people who believe their own instrument of class terrorism and violence is in fact a Communist conspiracy out to destroy them because it says you can't put lead in children's toothpaste.
Which city would you live in? 1, 2, or 3?
COMMENT below...or I will redistribute the wealth...
I am free to live outside these meager options, for I have no wealth to redistrobute. Truly, I am free, for I have nothing to lose.
The only answer is to not play the game in the first place
i will not comment so that you can redestribute the wealth comrade.
still better than the HOA
You know you can have park gates that charge an amount of your choice and the ai goes through them so you could have theoretically 30 gates charging $50
Imagine not having a tornado department. Insanity.
Florida logic
You damn commie. First fire departments now tornado departments!? Libertopia will not stand for this.
@@ryshow9118we get 50+ tornadoes a year and not a single siren to be heard
Obviously all of the city's problems stemmed from the lack of that most basic public service, the tornado department XD
Tragic, or Tornadic, if you will.
Calling a fire department "bloated bureaucracy" because there weren't any fires is golden.
But what about when the fire came to visit? what then, Amphibious one?
@@fang4223 Then maybe the victims should have hired their own private firemen, as supply side Jesus intended.
@@fang4223
The first fire department in America was a volunteer one. You don't need people standing around waiting for fires 24/7, you need people willing to be available during a local emergency. At least, until cities and infrastructure become so complicated that it takes dedicated training and equipment to perform the task.
Systems only work within the framework they were born in. Volunteer firefighting worked when every building was single floor, and water pressure was buckets and hand pumps. Professional firefighting works when you have to have equipment for fire hydrants, entire city blocks are skyscrapers that need specialized ladders and tools to enter, and you are expected to enter fully engulfed buildings with specialized suits and respirators. I don't expect Africa to have professional firefighters, and I don't expect China to have volunteers.
@@RavemastaJwtf man
@@RavemastaJ Oh I know. and god bless those heroes.
But I can't see people being that selfless today.
some random man bought some land, declared it a tax free zone, but all so he didnt have to pay tax himself
real
Wise guy
Pfft.
Probably lived in a county with a Tornado Department.
Mom, come in here! The frog guy built a city again!
No, not the one that drank the funny liquid and made the poop volcano; the one who made the poop tsunami!
YES there’s a difference
"One is a job and the other is mental sickness!"
We'll all miss the great city of MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
🤣🤣
RT is a frog? Well.. I guess he has the look.
@@Cryten0 I think they were referencing martincitopants
If I was a 0% tax city, instead of failing, I would just pull myself up by my bootstraps and succeed at being a 0% tax city.
Perfect comment 👌🏼😂
GENIUS
Calling the fire department "bloated bureaucracy" is Grade A libertarian speak.
Well, the fire department will show up and refuse to put out the fire on your house if you don’t pay your taxes. They are only there to stop it spreading to your neighbors.
@@justicedunham4088You’re thinking of private fire departments. With public one’s, the taxes are already paid through other means.
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I can’t understand anarcholibertarians. It would make it way more expensive than taxes are.
But its optional :)@@silverstorm1000
Wait until you get sent to work in space where they can charge you for air
@@highhorseo7875I'm pretty sure that's the plot of a Doctor Who episode.
@@nikkiofthevalley You also can play the part in Hardspace: Shipbreaker
My libertarian anarchocapitalist dream city where my children are uneducated but at least they are free
NVM they all died :-( now they're free to have heaven trickle down to them 🙏
C r i n g e
It’s joe-ver
Were going back to the middle ages with this one!
Uneducated doesnt mean dumb, and most kids after school are still dumb, and you can learn all the theoretical stuff from internet anyway and you wont be 100k in debt
I’m sure this isn’t going to go horrifically wrong in an unpredictable and strange way multiple times
Spiffing Britt with the congo line of toll booths: rookie numbers.
cities 2 got no tool boths
I have no booths but I must toll
@@wake_up_this_is_hell not for cars but there are for footpaths.
@@barrybend7189the heck? Is that just a mugging?
@@snakewithapen5489 no he placed park entrances and small parks in a row and made the payment mandatory.
There is exactly one parking lot that in CS2 that can generate more parking fee revenue than maintenance cost. This combined with electricy export revenue and education fees makes all negative tax city possible.
Also the highly educated people left because all of the offices went out of business with max taxes so they had no hobs. If they have big houses and good services you can sometimes keep them even either very high taxes
Damn I hate it when I lose my hob...
Couldn't you also make a zero tax city work by just doing insider trading the entire time and generating massive profits off the stock exchange to keep your city afloat?
😤✋ "taxation"
☺👉 "mandatory subscription fee"
unironically what people are suggesting in the US right now
It's not mandatory, so not a tax.
Me with the crippling fear of cabs after arriving to Notaxistan: Well this is not exactly what I had in mind...
The inherent flaw in the test is that the game doesn't allow for private necessary services, only the ones you personally cover the budget for.
In real life a dentist can come and open his own clinic, in the game all dentists are entirely reliant on your federal budget to exist...apply this to every service and there's the problem.
You can't make anarchistic or libertarian states in any meaningful sense when the idea that you're in charge of a bigger government is literally the purpose of the game
I love how stupid libertarians are. Capitalism is a system of forced labor, the purpose of the State is to make capital accumulation possible, yet you're idiots and think that the very instrument of capitalist class rule is Communism.
Cities Skylines lacks the amazing Toxic Waste, Casino, Maximum Security Prison and garbage deals of Sim City 3000. That game could be possible to 0% tax while still having services.
Title: "The 0% Tax City"
City 3: "So I raised the taxes to the maximum-"
Road tolls. So so so many road tolls. You don’t have to pay taxes but if you want to go anywhere you better have some toll change in your car.
Exactly, it's not a tax, it's a usage fee. But then again, CS2 peeps will actually walk down the block (and a lot further).
You can easily make money selling power using a really well made hydro electric power station on some maps.
Solar power is another alternative.
Stealing labour from the Sun!
"-now we have all the bare essentials" does not add hospitals
"Doctors are just middlemen between you and health" real thing i heard from real human.
I like how City 1 was just recreating Kowloon Walled City
How did you not even try exporting resources? That's a big part of the economic game in CS2.
Hmm,
Take value from local business to sell for personal profit...
Sounds like tax to me!
@@fang4223 its state own industry. communism
8:34 is best part of video lads
I love that now TH-cam shows you timer comments just before that moment arrives in the video
0:30 You should have named it Ancapistan.
Not funny enough
@@taherbertolinirodrigues9104 I don’t think you get the reference
OH JREG WHERE ARE YOU
my man forgot to build a tornado department
Sounds like paradise! Surely nothing could go wrong in this much more advanced simulation, compared to all the previous attempts, of course.
True tax-free city has never been tried!
I mean... before 1913 America had no taxes... it seemed to work out okay.
Ambiguous Ancap-hibian
Ive been sick for the last two days and i found your channel and have been bingeing your city skylines videos but i was sad to see that you only had 5-6 of them. i open youtube my first recommended video was this one, your videos made my day, thanks so much
Dear Mr. Frogman. Here's my tax contribution :) thanks for all the philosophical content
I really want you to do Workers & Resources
"Poop, Death, Crime and Garbage" now I know what to name my kids
Maybe in cities skylines 3 they'll have wells, septic tanks, and household solar arrays so we can revisit Libertopia. That's effectively where I'm already living. My compliments to the chef.
But this begs the question, in Ancapistan, *who are you playing...?* You fraud, you liar; that was no Ancapistan - you were the state! Smhing my head so hard rn
The State is what allows capitalists to dominate society.
Great job, AA! You did a fantastic job!! My compliments to the... internet... guy.
Oh god, not a grid base in City Skylines 2... The traffic is going to be insane.
Is the path finding really that bad? Honestly, having that much traffic for 5,000 residents is already causing me to avoid that game forever.
What about busses or trams or trains?
@@MichaelfromtheGraves the path finding its that bad, grid patterns cause traffic due to a lot of close intersection. During rush hours = traffic jam
@@MichaelfromtheGravesOn the one hand the efficiency of the American city at generating traffic should not be underestimated (a suburb of even just 5000 people at rush hour is terrifying)
On the other hand the path finding is probably worse than you think. Cars clog buss only roads entirely and instantly, you can watch the repeated U-Turns as the parking space across the map that a car is going to gets taken, and all power and water of a sufficiently dense city will operate at 50% efficiency as the garbage AI is physically incapable of figuring out how to collect trash from it.
@@MichaelfromtheGraves The pathfinding might be bad, but the biggest problem here was; him zoning everything in while paused and when he finally did unpause the game, all the people moving in spawned at the same time. And with only one way to reach the city (this intersection at 3:12), it's no wonder why the pathfinding looks that bad.
30% is the max amount you can be taxed?!
*Cries in Norwegian*
The opposition wants to privatize the functions of the Tornado Department and we believe this will result in more tornadoes, not fewer.
I'm curious how the first city would have gone with 50% service funding and 200% service fees for all services
9:42 - 9:52
That awkward moment when AmbiguousAmphibian sums up about 300 years of politics better than any of the politicians ever did.
I forgot who did it, but I remember seeing someone make a city with a population of 1. They did it by exporting wind and solar power iirc, in theory you could use the same method to make a 0% tax city
I think that was RCE, I know he had a one pop build, but i dont remember if he actually tried to make it "successful" or not.
I remember the crime was always out of control.
Spiff kinda did it
Hang on, the city owns the power generation? Unacceptable! Privatise that shit ASAP!
might have been rt
It's actually easier to make a 0% tax city in cities skylines with the new economy update. Since if you slowly lower taxes, people will just have more disposable income to pay tax using city services
.... Was that a subtle 9/11 nod there at the end? Cut the video right as the camera's about to crash into a skyscraper, with a jet engine sound phasing in... Oh AA, you silly silly boi.... :D
Make a very car-reliant city, Ban on-street parking, and charge lots of money for public parking lots, which might secure your funds in a 0% tax city
This is a complimentary compliment for Ambiguous
I'm beginning to think this frog doesn't know what communism is.
Don't worry, most people in North America don't know what communism is
Heavens forfend we ever treat seriously the idea of people controlling the economy instead of letting the economy control people.
year barely started and you already provide us great entertaiment
thank you
Picture dealing with tornadoes without a proper department in place. Total madness.
I have a very prosperous city that makes millions per month using 0% residential, 3% commercial with 0% on food, and 5% on industry and office. Growth gives more money than a high %, and that's with more services and public transit than I could ever do with a high tax rate.
"I think I did a good job as mayor, please compliment me."
Thousands of people died.
funny story, there was a glitch pre-economy update and it gave my city a ton tax of money if i "paid" certain industries. it let me pay everyone else in the city for simply existing with plenty of money to spare. true tax free city at ~300k population
game so true to life, when the rich are asked to give back to society, they throw a tantrum and run away
Those people were literally walking on the highway to leave that city lol
I love that the game thinks that a 30% tax rate is so inhumanly high to the point where no would would live there, lol.
Is there a mod that lets you stop people from moving out? So that people can only leave your city through death? That sounded more grim that I intended it to.
poop death crime and garbage sounds like a truthfully advertised music festival.
Communistantinople probably has a tornado department, so that's my choice
"All thee water is dirty, M'lord"
There, fixed it. 😁
I'm honestly surprised you haven't done a Soviet Republic video yet. I feel that would be another game you could squeeze content out of easily from people lol.
Wait, I can give negative taxes?! I can't wait to give free money to the rich while brutally taxing the poverty line!!!
Why would you simulate real life in a video game
Just get a job and you’ll do that IRL
I can't wait for tariffs in 2025 :>
Oh hey, just like real life.
@@azpont7275: Of all the things in life I miss, I miss my surplus value the most.
Shoutouts to everyone who noticed Bolero.
I am complimenting the maker of this video by my own free will.
Not every experiment is a success, but every one teaches you... something.
That one bike at 3:22 stopping traffic
I swear I watched this video fully, but now I realised I only watched the beginning... I guess time to watch it fully
how much classical music can you fit into 10 minutes? lets find out
The transition at 8:36 is diabolical
So what you're saying is, we could disincentivize poverty by taxing it away and redistribute the wealth to the upper classes in order to expand said upper classes?
There should be more realistic way of companies paying city to build shady businesses, changing local laws and destroying competition. With that mod it would be real life city simulator 😅
Secret to make 0% tax city is to name tax in other words
Consider this a compliment. There you go!
to be fair that wasn't communism more a converted type of social market capitalism
I am surprised you didn't abuse the paid parking
Imagining every 1000k city had a skyscraper is lit
so i know what you did wrong...
zero taxes... but toll roads to get into the city.
me in my libertarian anarchidt utopia when the private monsanto school wont accept my amazon company credits i earned by working the 20th 16 hour shift in a row
[Insert compliment here.]
Facts fr fr bro!
AA going back to his roots. Love to see it
Ambiguouslibertarian
Obviously the ideal city is the 9-9-9 plan by famous TH-camr Herman Cain.
Like the founding fathers intended, back when they stole land instead.
Conquered, not stolen.
Pro tip: just sell geothermal energy it is pretty profitable
always love a new amphiguousambibian vid
Im sure everyone in this libertarian dream city has nuanced opinions on age of consent laws
I’m pretty sure there aren’t any such laws there
You mean literally the entire world before the 1920s (when feminists raised the age of consent)?
I appreciate the music from Barry Lyndon in the background.
I'd live there.
All of em.
Dude wants to play Workers & Resources but doesn't know it yet.
Poop, Death, Crime, and Garbage: The AmbiguousAmphibian Story
Missed opportunity to make a second communist city called Communistanbul.
I love when theres a little life lesson in these vids!
"despite all the poop death"
but AA, i didn't see a single poopcano in this video, how did people die from poop death?
Certified ancap moment
You know every place that ends with Stan is going to fail.
Maybe the real tax haven was the friends we drove off along the way.
-10% tax city run is going to be crazy
Good job AA. I am inspired by your leadership abilities. Truly amazing.
Ah yes the amazing traffic AI of City Skylines 2. Thank you for reminding me why I still haven't bought this game.
Me watching this knowing he could have just build a lot of power plants and exported the electricity for lots of money:
Today AA reinvents Slab City, California
The first 2 cities just weren't FREE enough
Horseshoe centrist amphibian (much love) doesn't know libertarian or communist practical theory plus is creating the city in a simulation based on neoliberal conservative concepts of capitalism. Oof.
Is there a simulation that is more based off of communist concepts of capitalism? I like these kinds of games, but they get really boring with their simplistic views on government
@@jacobash5904: You'd have a hard time getting it funded. That the purpose of the State is to dominate the working class on behalf of the capitalists would be seen as outlandish amongst a group of people who believe their own instrument of class terrorism and violence is in fact a Communist conspiracy out to destroy them because it says you can't put lead in children's toothpaste.