Just finished putting my 40hp Backwater through its first Arkansas duck season. Had my boat beached on sand bars in the Arkansas river and sitting flat on the mud in 2in of water and the Backwater performed flawlessly. Never once had to get out and push the boat. It's on a 1650 XPress Jon boat with a high transom and runs 24-28 depending on the load. Would highly recommend Backwater to anyone looking for a solid mud motor. I researched longtails for a year or so before going with Backwater and I have no regrets.
Great video Frank. I just ordered mine a few days ago. I’m excited to go from a 23hp Surface Drive to the Swomp 40. I plan to make some videos on my channel. I Hope you make more videos of your Backwater...
I just bought a 1752 weldbilt semi V with a 50hp outboard. Now I'm looking at a long tail to go shallow. For the marsh to duck hunt. Not worried about speed. But can that motor push your 17 in less than a foot of water with 3 guys and gear? What's the weight of the motor?
mudmotordave Franklin I had 5 guys, backpack sprayers, 40 gallons of chemical, etc. And we were still running over 20 mph. This is a very impressive rig!
Is this rig for hunting only? Didn’t see a trolling motor and you mentioned duck hunting and nothing about fishing. Like your video and was wondering what in appearance was an oversized lawnmower was on a boat. Your comical comment about being two people was 😄
No. Fill it with T4 Rotella and 93 octane non-ethanol fuel if it’s available to you. Do the break-in oil change at 5-10 hours then change the oil and adjust the valves every 50 hours or so. That may be overkill but oil and filters are relatively cheap compared to a new motor.
I know that the frame is great, but if u wanted a added + on the steering, go get a 6" circle cut out of some 1/8 teflon with a 1" hole in the center and sandwich it between the frame and the yoke that bolts to the bell housing. Yes you will need to remove the lockdown on the transom bracket but a great improvement and tradeoff imo
I have never owned one that Motors been thinking about getting one of them I have a 14ft river Lowe's Jon Boat what do you suggest the size I should go with I only run in rivers
MADDOG 45 AUTO Depending on the width of your boat, I'd run a 13hp single cylinder if your boat is narrower or step up to a 23hp if your boat is wider.
dirty south out door I have owned one. I would definitely go with the 23 Lite instead of the classic. The Lite is faster, better handling, and smoother running. And it is just as strong as the classic frame.
I love the boat. Smooth boat except for one single rib down the middle to help with turning. Wide open layout. Longitudinal bracing to help prevent hooking. Non-skid liner throughout the entire interior. I like it better than my War Eagle.
Just finished putting my 40hp Backwater through its first Arkansas duck season. Had my boat beached on sand bars in the Arkansas river and sitting flat on the mud in 2in of water and the Backwater performed flawlessly. Never once had to get out and push the boat. It's on a 1650 XPress Jon boat with a high transom and runs 24-28 depending on the load. Would highly recommend Backwater to anyone looking for a solid mud motor. I researched longtails for a year or so before going with Backwater and I have no regrets.
captain howdy They're the best you can get!
Love your video man .....keep up the good reviews!!!
Moto Dez Thanks man!
Great video Frank. I just ordered mine a few days ago. I’m excited to go from a 23hp Surface Drive to the Swomp 40. I plan to make some videos on my channel. I Hope you make more videos of your Backwater...
Man I like that setup,,I have an edge 1650,,tall transom,,that motor sounds super smooth and pretty quite as well
Great review!... nice setup!👍💪🏼
I just bought a 1752 weldbilt semi V with a 50hp outboard. Now I'm looking at a long tail to go shallow. For the marsh to duck hunt. Not worried about speed. But can that motor push your 17 in less than a foot of water with 3 guys and gear? What's the weight of the motor?
It absolutely can. 225lbs.
not bad on that size hull , im curious what a hunting load with a couple extra people will do for it
mudmotordave Franklin I had 5 guys, backpack sprayers, 40 gallons of chemical, etc. And we were still running over 20 mph. This is a very impressive rig!
Thanks you answered my question without asking.
Is this rig for hunting only? Didn’t see a trolling motor and you mentioned duck hunting and nothing about fishing. Like your video and was wondering what in appearance was an oversized lawnmower was on a boat. Your comical comment about being two people was 😄
How is the handling, specifically for tighter turns? Gotta muscle it?
I'd like to see that rig in action being recorded from another boat
Frankie how do you astern the boat and does it have a reverse gear
There is no reverse.
And when you got it,,was it already put together,,just add oil and gas
Yep.
Did you do anything special to break the motor in when you first started running it?
No. Fill it with T4 Rotella and 93 octane non-ethanol fuel if it’s available to you. Do the break-in oil change at 5-10 hours then change the oil and adjust the valves every 50 hours or so. That may be overkill but oil and filters are relatively cheap compared to a new motor.
I know that the frame is great, but if u wanted a added + on the steering, go get a 6" circle cut out of some 1/8 teflon with a 1" hole in the center and sandwich it between the frame and the yoke that bolts to the bell housing. Yes you will need to remove the lockdown on the transom bracket but a great improvement and tradeoff imo
I'm not sure I get what you're saying.
were the 2 plates slide on each other for the left and right movement. put a piece of Teflon between the 2 plates.
C Price Sent.
I have never owned one that Motors been thinking about getting one of them I have a 14ft river Lowe's Jon Boat what do you suggest the size I should go with I only run in rivers
MADDOG 45 AUTO Depending on the width of your boat, I'd run a 13hp single cylinder if your boat is narrower or step up to a 23hp if your boat is wider.
@@fracabby okay thank you very much
MADDOG 45 AUTO No problem.
What size do you recommend for a 16ft flatbottom boat extra wide extra deep??
I have a fairly deep 1650 XPress and I went with the 40hp. No regrets. Awesome machine.
Do you think it needs a transom saver bar when transporting? I got mine strapped down the same. Just curious what other people think.
No not at all.
I’m looking at this same setup. How does it do with a heavy load of guys/gear and how is it on longer runs? Thanks 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Chris Watson Planes out with 5 grown men and gear. Check out my other videos. Very easy to operate.
Wow awesome thanks. Great review!
A neutral clutch would be awesome.
MrDavidelliottjr All you have to do is push the handle down and take the prop out of the water.
I bet the torque of that motor is awesome
What’s the top speed? Looks great!
so after it was broke in what speed did you get?
Picked up a mile an hour.
What rpm were you running at, at top speed?
Hey frank I wanting to get a the back water swomp 23 the the classic have you ever Owen one and do they hold up for a while?
dirty south out door I have owned one. I would definitely go with the 23 Lite instead of the classic. The Lite is faster, better handling, and smoother running. And it is just as strong as the classic frame.
Sir your unit 40hp is available in the Philippines?
Any issues with the motor since you’ve had it for about 2 years?
Thomas Tyler No issues at all.
Nice. How much does a load affect your speed with that hull?
Thomas Tyler Not a lot. Still planes out and runs fine with 5 grown men and gear.
What size gas tank are you running and how long does it last?
Hayden Patton 6 gallon. I'd say 4 hours or so running wide open.
Need the information to oder one!!!!!
Roger Vandergriff backwaterinc.com
How much price vangard 40 hp
I'm sold on the SWOMP 40, but I'm curious about the Alweld mud hull. How are you liking it? How does it compare to the other hulls you've had?
I love the boat. Smooth boat except for one single rib down the middle to help with turning. Wide open layout. Longitudinal bracing to help prevent hooking. Non-skid liner throughout the entire interior. I like it better than my War Eagle.
It’s nice I just don’t like that handle
I'd modify that handle the day I bought it. It looks very weak
What's the price on one of these
Prices are at backwaterinc.com
40HP
Do yourself a favor and you an atv style metal throttle handle an thank me later👍
Can you say umm a few more times?
Umm. Eat shit.
FRANKABBY2, perfect response to a dumb@ss comment...
@@fracabby good responses man I got a good laugh out of that would have said the same thing