Megatron takes over the plant ship thing, because that's just kind of his thing. And he'll attack Cybertron with it, because that's even more his thing.
Transformers never had any reason to be anything more than a glorified toy commercial, and yet every single animated Transformers show so far has above and beyond in quality, story, and character.
Considering Megatron's scheme after this, it’s likely he’s gotten well and truly desperate. The episode after this is Bad Spark, which is right before Code of Hero. He was counting on aliens coming to Earth before he could put his more viable plan into action and all things considered, that says something about him.
Well considering aliens had *just* blasted the planet with the moon a few months prior, it was probably the right approach to assume they might be coming back.
"And Megatron is from the Impunity School of Acting" Ironically, my headcanon is that Megatron and Dinobot were both theater kids before Megatron chose the path of villainy and recruited Dinobot.
Gotta love Hasbro trying to be own Quicksilver in the 90's just like how the MCU could own Quicksilver and and Fox studios could add them to BOTH the Avengers and the X-Men movies respectfully. ;)
Hmm...I had forgotten about him turning the ship into a giant version of his face...think this is what inspired his form in Beast Machines? The totally tech one, once he split off the biological refuse into a werewolf...no I am not kidding, that is something that happened in the follow up show to this. It was awful, I'm spoiling it because it was terrible. I still remember that one mostly because of just learning about a writing technique that show used. Have a character start answering a question that CANNOT be answered logically, but interrupt them partway through with an action scene and never go back to actually finish the answer. The audience will often forget that the didn't get an answer. That's something commented on in Rolling Stones(The Heinlein novel with the Martian Flat cats which helped inspire tribbles), with a serial one of the characters is writing. Beast Machines does this with Waspinator who will come out of the Beast Wars as probably the biggest winner...only to have that snatched away because he was popular.
Beast Machines is a crazy fever dream. I wonder if someone will donate to Chuck to have it reviewed too. As someone who has donated to get some beast wars episodes covered, I am not willing to pay for Beast Machines.
@@takeru3159 _Beast Machines_ touches on some neat topics. It doesn't really treat those topics well, and it's weighed down by the problem that the characters are _notionally_ supposed to be the same characters as in _Beast Wars._ Big win for Inferno, the only Transformer to survive the Beast War and _not_ appear in _Beast Machines._ And he's implied to have died off screen between series.
Show did a good job making the Vok feel like a credible threat- every episode they show up in, someone dies. It is a bit strange how weak the alien superweapon ends up being considering Megs wanted to use it to take over Cybertron. The floating island from The Trigger had better firepower than this.
I see it as functionally, it's a lot more powerful than what we see here only because Megatron has barely had time to figure it out and he hasn't exactly proven himself that capable when it comes to learning on the fly.
Man, if it wasn't for Tarantulus, Optimus and Rattrap probably could have captured/killed Megatron, returned to Cybertron, and brought reinforcements. Even without Optimus and Rattrap, the Maximals are less prone to infighting and could probably hold the fort until they got back. Megatron's plan was stupid. It would be one thing if he planned on bringing the ship to study and reverse engineer, but he seemed convinced that this thing would be the tide turner in the Maximal/Predacon conflict when it couldn't even hold its own against 4 Maximals.
His whole thing is megalomania. He keeps a traitor at arm's reach because he's so sure he'll never really get him (even though he did once). He's taking this massive risk because he's just sure this disk plan will work. and when he traipses onto an alien ship.. yeah he's sure he can suss it out in a trice. No huge shock in the last season when he starts reading prophecies he feels are about him. Carly Simon would have something to say about that.
@@KairuHakubi It's telling that, while changing history is _why_ he took the _Dark Side_ to Earth, once the Vok show up that gets dropped to his backup plan. Side note: It's worth remembering that at this point in Transformer history, Cybertron is almost dead. Shockwave's forces more-or-less run the planet, even with some Autobot resistance groups hanging on. Megs doesn't need the Vok ship as a gun; he needs it as a power source.
These two episodes always bugged me, one the one hand I hate how Tigatron and Airazor were taken out of the series (made worse by the lack of use of Tigerhawk in season 3) and Megatron's plan is very poorly thought out compared to what he usually pulls out in the major two parters. He can't even handle 4 of the Maximals how is he planning an entire planet of them? Oh sure he can use that EMP thing but that drains it's power and leaves it wide open to attack and I'm pretty sure Cybertron has orbital defenses that could destroy it in one or two shots. Overall, not a favorite episode of mine.
I always assumed he wasn't planning on jumping to future Cybertron (where he came from,) but rather current Cybertron. Which is energy starved and Decepticon dominated.
Dare I ask who the two worst doctors are...? Okay, Robotnik's going to be one, isn't he? So, who's the other, Dr. Crippin? Harold Shipman? Ncuti Gatwa? And we all know Impunity is Megatron's whole entire M.O., why change now? If it works, great! If not, blame Starscream, or at least take it out on Starscream! That's usually how it goes! It's bully Starscream o'clock somewhere in the multiverse, right?
Dr Flox from Enterprise and Zoidberg from Futurama. Zoidberg it's understandable since it's intended. Flox because his justification for letting an entire race go extinct was "well, that's what nature intended and I'm nothing if not a hypocrite."
Chuck does that sometimes when its a show he hasn't reviewed in a while. He knows the character's name, he's gotten it right in the past, he just hasn't had to really think about Beast Wars for a while. He's only done a handful of episodes of it over the last several years.
Personally, I found this the weakest of the 'Other V' trilogy. The ship is a decent threat, but the sense of dread from 'Other Voices' and the interesting revelations of 'Other Victories' are absent here. And as far as strange flying fortresses with weapons go, the island in 'The Trigger' was more interesting. This one just feels like a weaker Season 1 episode stretched into two parts. It doesn't help that Tigatron and Airazor's deaths are practically swept under the rug. It was one thing for the Predacons to not care about Scorponok and Terrorsaur taking a lava bath, but the Maximals cared about each other. It stinks that none of them express any sadness after this episode about what happened, especially considering how 'Dark Glass' would've addressed another character's death had it been made.
Tarantulous: I AM THE MAD MIDNIGHT ARACHNID WHAT BOMBS AT MIDNIGHT!
'EIGHT LEGS, EIGHT EYES, NO SANITY! BOOM BABY, BOOM!'
Transformers never had any reason to be anything more than a glorified toy commercial, and yet every single animated Transformers show so far has above and beyond in quality, story, and character.
Considering Megatron's scheme after this, it’s likely he’s gotten well and truly desperate. The episode after this is Bad Spark, which is right before Code of Hero. He was counting on aliens coming to Earth before he could put his more viable plan into action and all things considered, that says something about him.
He had a lot of different plans... but not as many planzzz as Waspinator.
Well considering aliens had *just* blasted the planet with the moon a few months prior, it was probably the right approach to assume they might be coming back.
"And Megatron is from the Impunity School of Acting"
Ironically, my headcanon is that Megatron and Dinobot were both theater kids before Megatron chose the path of villainy and recruited Dinobot.
Gotta love Hasbro trying to be own Quicksilver in the 90's just like how the MCU could own Quicksilver and and Fox studios could add them to BOTH the Avengers and the X-Men movies respectfully. ;)
Hmm...I had forgotten about him turning the ship into a giant version of his face...think this is what inspired his form in Beast Machines? The totally tech one, once he split off the biological refuse into a werewolf...no I am not kidding, that is something that happened in the follow up show to this. It was awful, I'm spoiling it because it was terrible.
I still remember that one mostly because of just learning about a writing technique that show used. Have a character start answering a question that CANNOT be answered logically, but interrupt them partway through with an action scene and never go back to actually finish the answer. The audience will often forget that the didn't get an answer.
That's something commented on in Rolling Stones(The Heinlein novel with the Martian Flat cats which helped inspire tribbles), with a serial one of the characters is writing. Beast Machines does this with Waspinator who will come out of the Beast Wars as probably the biggest winner...only to have that snatched away because he was popular.
Beast Machines was a completely different writing team ignoring almost everything about Beast Wars to tell their own story.
Beast Machines is a crazy fever dream. I wonder if someone will donate to Chuck to have it reviewed too. As someone who has donated to get some beast wars episodes covered, I am not willing to pay for Beast Machines.
@@takeru3159 _Beast Machines_ touches on some neat topics. It doesn't really treat those topics well, and it's weighed down by the problem that the characters are _notionally_ supposed to be the same characters as in _Beast Wars._ Big win for Inferno, the only Transformer to survive the Beast War and _not_ appear in _Beast Machines._ And he's implied to have died off screen between series.
more beast wars yay!
Show did a good job making the Vok feel like a credible threat- every episode they show up in, someone dies. It is a bit strange how weak the alien superweapon ends up being considering Megs wanted to use it to take over Cybertron. The floating island from The Trigger had better firepower than this.
I see it as functionally, it's a lot more powerful than what we see here only because Megatron has barely had time to figure it out and he hasn't exactly proven himself that capable when it comes to learning on the fly.
@@BobNinjaCat Hm, true. There was no time to read the tutorial. And the stasis field generator would have been very useful.
@@WhiteFangofWar I imagine if he could have, Megatron would have used that.
Man, if it wasn't for Tarantulus, Optimus and Rattrap probably could have captured/killed Megatron, returned to Cybertron, and brought reinforcements. Even without Optimus and Rattrap, the Maximals are less prone to infighting and could probably hold the fort until they got back.
Megatron's plan was stupid. It would be one thing if he planned on bringing the ship to study and reverse engineer, but he seemed convinced that this thing would be the tide turner in the Maximal/Predacon conflict when it couldn't even hold its own against 4 Maximals.
His whole thing is megalomania. He keeps a traitor at arm's reach because he's so sure he'll never really get him (even though he did once). He's taking this massive risk because he's just sure this disk plan will work. and when he traipses onto an alien ship.. yeah he's sure he can suss it out in a trice.
No huge shock in the last season when he starts reading prophecies he feels are about him. Carly Simon would have something to say about that.
@@KairuHakubi It's telling that, while changing history is _why_ he took the _Dark Side_ to Earth, once the Vok show up that gets dropped to his backup plan.
Side note: It's worth remembering that at this point in Transformer history, Cybertron is almost dead. Shockwave's forces more-or-less run the planet, even with some Autobot resistance groups hanging on. Megs doesn't need the Vok ship as a gun; he needs it as a power source.
These two episodes always bugged me, one the one hand I hate how Tigatron and Airazor were taken out of the series (made worse by the lack of use of Tigerhawk in season 3) and Megatron's plan is very poorly thought out compared to what he usually pulls out in the major two parters. He can't even handle 4 of the Maximals how is he planning an entire planet of them?
Oh sure he can use that EMP thing but that drains it's power and leaves it wide open to attack and I'm pretty sure Cybertron has orbital defenses that could destroy it in one or two shots.
Overall, not a favorite episode of mine.
I always assumed he wasn't planning on jumping to future Cybertron (where he came from,) but rather current Cybertron. Which is energy starved and Decepticon dominated.
Dare I ask who the two worst doctors are...? Okay, Robotnik's going to be one, isn't he? So, who's the other, Dr. Crippin? Harold Shipman? Ncuti Gatwa?
And we all know Impunity is Megatron's whole entire M.O., why change now? If it works, great! If not, blame Starscream, or at least take it out on Starscream! That's usually how it goes! It's bully Starscream o'clock somewhere in the multiverse, right?
Dr Flox from Enterprise and Zoidberg from Futurama. Zoidberg it's understandable since it's intended. Flox because his justification for letting an entire race go extinct was "well, that's what nature intended and I'm nothing if not a hypocrite."
@@BobNinjaCat Ah, so now the question becomes who are the three to top off your Top 10 Worst Doctors!
@ Dr Flox, Dr Zoidberg, and Jodie Whittaker.
His name is quickstrike not quick silver
That must be the ship name for Quickstrike/Silverbolt. I think Chuck just gave himself away...
Chuck does that sometimes when its a show he hasn't reviewed in a while. He knows the character's name, he's gotten it right in the past, he just hasn't had to really think about Beast Wars for a while. He's only done a handful of episodes of it over the last several years.
No his Name is Silver Dino-ratnator. ;)
I confess, his name is hard to remember because usually in my head he's just "dipshit."
@@sfdebrisred6555aha, so he occupies the Neelix slot!
Who were the other two Doctors?
I am not a Doctor Who fan, but it is possible he is considering one or two doctors from that show. But my first guess is Pulaski and Flox.
Phlox and Colin Baker?
Personally, I found this the weakest of the 'Other V' trilogy. The ship is a decent threat, but the sense of dread from 'Other Voices' and the interesting revelations of 'Other Victories' are absent here. And as far as strange flying fortresses with weapons go, the island in 'The Trigger' was more interesting. This one just feels like a weaker Season 1 episode stretched into two parts. It doesn't help that Tigatron and Airazor's deaths are practically swept under the rug. It was one thing for the Predacons to not care about Scorponok and Terrorsaur taking a lava bath, but the Maximals cared about each other. It stinks that none of them express any sadness after this episode about what happened, especially considering how 'Dark Glass' would've addressed another character's death had it been made.