The fact that he straight up lied about the consequences too. He didn't even let them get to the point of saying "We're sleeping in the living room," he just says "We never intended on letting you choose lmao"
In fairness, _I guess,_ that kind of thing has happened with other so-called social experiments run by unqualified persons seeking justifications for their worldview instead of just seeking knowledge.
He's still at this kind of shit. He invited my sisters girlfriend, a decently popular fatfashion personality . They lied and said it was about body positivity and ending fatphobia. Thankfully she turned it down but the woman who didn't want so lucky. It was all "it's unhealthy to live like this so we'll hook up with a trainer, how about that?" Edit for spelling
@@stellviahohenheimTechnically he is or more aptly was, he had his license to practice revoked when one of his patients (a barely legal college student) reported him for stalking her and harassing her at work and home outside of sessions.
"Why is John being racist? That's not even his issue." Never has anyone said so much in so few words. In Dr. Phil's mind there's no way someone can be both fat and racist.
Now we know he doesn't even treat people on his shows like actual people, just like one-dimensional characters. The fat guy, the racist, the black woman... that's all he can see.
dr phil saying "thats not even his issue" to someone else being racist is the perfect look into his psyche. like, he doesnt care about them as people, but only as physical manifestations of opinions to be used as props for entertainment
I also love that he made the assumption that bigots with "one issue" wouldn't be likely to also display tendencies of "another issue" like that! For someone with a doctorate in psychology, it is stunning how ignorant Phil is of the subject. Of course, his brand is built on cutting through the "bullshit" of nuance and care associated with therapy to get through to the core "common sense" perspective that the audience endorses, so he has an incentive to ignore well established psychological ideas he knows won't be popular with his audience. Incredible.
Dr. Phil unironically struggling to understand that someone can be both fat AND racist is just so perfect. It's not like racism could stem from feeling insecure and isolated as you blame your problems on other people, some people are just racist. And racists can't be homophobic, those are two different things! Why would there be overlap, Phil thinks! It's not like there's a huge intersection between white supremacy, homophobia, transphobia, antisemitism, and incel culture! We picked a racist and he's the only one allowed to be a racist on the show, lol! If the racist isn't saying the N word and other people are, then that's not a problem with our casting, it just means we need to intervene to make the fat one not also steal the racist trait.
Fun fact: Dr Phil stopped renewing his licence to practice psychology in 2006, has never held a licence to practice in California where his show is filmed, and to get around this determined that his show was primarily for entertainment purposes, rather than to offer any actual help to people.
Bro, the difference between their introductions was so stark. Those who have real marginalizations are just yelling and saying exaggerated phrases, like they were just asked to play up their "hatred", while the other participants with real bigotries are so calm about it, they casually say the worst stuff you've ever heard. It's cause you know they don't have to play it up. They just feel that way.
I wonder how many people watching this show assumed that everyone was being honest. That fat/gay/black people are just ANGRY while the bigots are calm and collected.
YES, I thought the same thing! The minorities' intros all felt very forced and acted out, while the others just truly spoke from a place of internal hatred, or at least a strong knowledge of how to talk down to minorities. Truly an awful freaking show
I was thinking that just in the intro - I think typically a marginalized person's reasons for "hating" the oppressive class is very different than real bigotry. In the former case, that "hatred" is defensive, born from the original marginalization, and you see that in their own words, the Black woman and lesbian couch their anger at white/straight people in their experiences of being tossed aside by those very people. It's interesting that in this 2000s era (and today really) there's a focus on "ALL hatred is bad, let's all get along!" Without a recognition that all of that prejudice comes from the same place: the initial, dominant forms of bigotry of the straight white hegemony. Maybe let's focus on fixing that as a society? No, that wouldn't make good tv? OK, for sure...
@@youtubeuniversity3638 I see what you did there ;) Dr. Phil had the Bum Fights guy on the show to chastise him for profiting on other people's suffering, but the Bum Fights Guy went to the show dressed up as Dr. Phil to harass him saying that he does the exact same thing.
@@cigarette420Can I hate horribly done and unnecessary plastic surgery pushed upon aesthetically good looking young people through social pressures to match the current singular face considered to be the beauty standard of the day?
8:05 "That's not even his issue" is so funny. Like he can't fathom how any of them would end up existing outside of the respective bigotries he's assigned to be their whole thing
its a great example of why conservatives get angry and confused when leftists assume multiple -isms of a person. if youre one, youre usually all of em. but to them its like, why would being racist necessarily mean youre sexist too?? they have nooOooOothing to do with each other
@@rickkroll Wait a minute... Red Pill... Rd Pill... dR Pill... Dr Pill... Dr Plil... Dr Phil! My god...! Do you know what this means?! I hope so, because I sure don't.
"After tonight, I would not call Bea and her friends ******s anymore. I would call them African American." Funniest line of the show for a bad reason...
its rly funny but im also gonna read into it and say it feels like a good representation of how some bigots will like or even be friends/partners with a member of the group they hate but continue being bigots. they just wont be bigoted towards "the good ones"
It's bizarre how Doctor Phil thinks these people could only be one thing, so you hate the skinny people, but you can't be racist as well, hating the skinnys is your deal. Nothing else. You don't have anything else going on.
He thinks people are two-dimensional cartoon characters who have one shtick going on. And it's sad to say, but that is how most people seem to think bigotry works?!
The fact that he got so offended that humans could engage with multiple bigotries was classic Phil. "What are you doing?! I can't be reductionist about this!"
Phil: "We did this to break down the walls of prejudice and hatred that plague our lives ." [Moments later, when everyone is getting on well enough,] Phil: "Well, I hate smalltalk, chit-chat, and cocktail parties, so I'm not wasting ten minutes of my life listening this crap." *proceeds to purposefully stoke the flames of hatred*
“So that includes me? Ya hate me? Huh? Huh?” Wow, Phil really can’t help but make this “experiment” literally all about himself personally from the very start. Just utterly insane for any procedure presenting itself as science.
Dr Phil always struck me as a bully. He wants to come off as caring and understanding, but he brings people onto his show he KNOWS his audience is going to dislike. I saw one episode where he had a trans lady on, and he continually misgendered her, and sat there with her father while he cried, as if his feelings were more important than hers. He takes injured parties - young teens who have serious traumas in their lives - and broadcasts them to make money. It's really not helping anyone.
@@biggestastiest somehow therapy seems to attract a percentage of these cretins. Like, people who didn't realise they wanted to bully others until they got their degree maybe?
Was this a different one or the one where they were abandoned by their family? There was one like that, and the comments were feeling sympathy for the guy because their poor baby is trans (Oh no!), meanwhile they had no place to live because they were thrown on the street lol. You'd think if they truly loved you, they wouldn't throw you out like garbage.
The fact that Dr. Phil really thought that the best way for the white supremacist and the black woman to bond was *literal blackface* just goes to show how he's a man who truly has never had to go through a single day of bigotry in his entire life.
also phil isn't a real medical dr. he plays one on tv but he is not now or ever been in practice with a real license, like that guy Oz also just a tv dr. actor not a real medical dr.
It's nuts how Phil thought he was making some kind of point about "both sides just need to stop hating each other," but he unintentionally proved that that's not how it works
You're telling me if you out two people who hate each other in a room together, they'll be mean??? Unexpected result, I never would have known if the good doctor didn't make this show.
I feel like if he was paying any attention at all he'd have realised that just from the *casting*. All the marginalised people seem to be playing up their hatred for the show while the racist dude has literally served time for hate crimes.
"We found a bunch of bigots and people who are angry at bigotry, treated those behaviors as equal and opposite, and stuck everyone in a house together!" This whole show is like a one-off gag you'd see in the background of satirical dystopian movie, playing on a TV so an establishing shot isn't completely silent.
It's incredibly telling that Dr Phil can just bust out a extensive list of INCREDIBLY HARSH insults for John and then end with "...and that's what YOU think of him, right?"
RIGHT! that was insane because you’d think he’d know better than to say that (I mean… if you know who he is you wouldn’t think that because he said it on purpose because he’s fucking cruel)
I didn’t realize this was a thing but I think Dr. Phil is like… a fat pick me? Like he’s pretty hefty, and he does stuff this a lot, like he wants to feel superior.
Oh yeah, that's his whole schtick. Saying exactly whatever horrible insulting things pop into his head, in the most condescending way possible, and then attribute that to whoever the subject came to the show with. He claims to bring people together, to solve problems, but in every single instance I've seen, the only thing he does is sow division and generate outrage. He'll take an otherwise stable relationship where two people have minor grievances, like someone not washing the dishes, and then blows that up into these huge problems for the people to "work on"
“he’s taking garys side on this, its not even his issue” wow this line is so telling. he says this like bigotry is just some discrete isolated character flaw.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 I have a career behind me in language teaching. You'd be surprised at what people think they can get away with, including other staff members. I would get out more but I don't want to get my fountain pen wet.
@@Usagi393it would be like having Jordan Peterson as your therapist: nothing would get done and you would have to listen to them rant about the hippies, reverse racists, trans people, Obama, etc.
I think Phil only looked at these people for one specific characteristic. Unlike a lot of introductions to people and characters alike on tv, these people are specifically only talking about this one characteristic, with absolutely nothing else like hobbies or interests unless they specifically relate to that one characteristic. The fat guy being racist is probably because Phil put no effort into learning more about these people aside from one characteristic (being gay, racist, etc) and that lead to multiple people dunking on one minority because Phil didn’t try to ensure that the people he was bringing on didn’t fulfill more than one characteristic, he just chose whoever had at least one or whoever was most vocal about their beliefs. Which is pretty scummy.
Love Dr. Phil being like “oh so you hate me?? Oh so you don’t like me?? We have a problem cause I’m white?!” Like bro, tf? Nothing was about you until you made it about you.
It's like guys who hear the word men and immediately take it personally. Older black people have been burned many times before, if you actually talk to any one of them they don't hate all white people, they hate white people that carry that air of privilege and superiority over others, which is a sadly large group. We see the way people look at urban areas and call us thugs, but a criminal of another color is just misunderstood or it's their upbringing. Again, not all white people, but the immediate "Well, _I'm_ not like that" and getting aggressively defensive doesn't help.
“Look we’re doing the shocking bad thing but for GOOD REASONS, we’re so terrible that it proves we’re good.” Gave people permission to watch a train wreck but also the self gratifying feeling of being on the “enlightened” side.
@@limner123 It's even weirder when there's a famous black person encouraging it - See Tyra Banks with America's Next Top Model blackface. And believe me, she had no one pushing her to do this on the show. The 90s and early 2000s had this really weird vibe that you could somehow solve racism with shit like this. There's an entire goddamn show, though I forget the name of it, where a black family and a white family have to live in the same house, but not only that, they made the black family do white-face makeup(not saying it's worse, no other way to describe it concisely) and the white family do black-face makeup to force them to shallowly experience what it's like being white or black.
I feel like Dr. Phil would fit in perfectly as that researcher guy on the sex raft (tldr a guy went out on a raft with a bunch of people expecting them to snap and murder each other, or fight over the women for some kind of "human nature" study and got pissed when they just became good friends and bonded instead of killing each other immediately)
Didn't he also appoint a woman captain so the men would be sexist about being subservient to a woman, but in reality they were just chill and listened to her because she knew more about the subject? And then he got mad about it?
And shout out to the fact that the researcher ruined the sex raft's vibe so much that they actually started considering whether or not to murder him cause he kept doing shit like using slurs to create conflict. Meanwhile, they were just vibing and having secret orgies
I think they’re were actually planning to kill him (I could be misrembering if it was that far) because he was getting really nasty and was being racist to one of the women to cause a fight. So there was fighting and at least thought about murder, but purely because of him.
@@liam3284Far too many. People often seem to have the idea that everyone thinks like them unless they're crazy in general. Where some would say "I don't get it" more say "no one sane/smart/etc. thinks that!" It feels like more to me anyways.
The idea that resisting racism through anger is somehow "giving your dignity away" is absolutely abhorrent. it dissolves the responsibility of condemning these actions because its also not gary's fault because he has trauma? it just individualises and creates pathology until it goes away
As a mixed race person, it pisses me off how as minorities, we're just expected to be forever compassionate towards bigoted white people. We're told that racism will go away if we stop talking about it. I'm also a transgender man, and I'm tired of how my right to exist is viewed as a debate that has two sides. We're always accused of having an agenda or being too political, yet our very existence is viewed as political and inherantly sexual, even when we're children.
@@doctordavidchan1044you definitely hit the nail on the head. It’s part of the American pathology. “MLK was martyred for their sins and ended slavery so now racism doesn’t exist”. It’s awful, all oppressed people have the right to self defense by any means necessary. Those in the group with power would never consider living like those they subject, the entire American mythos of revolution and freedom is built around that fact. Fanon’s chapter “on violence” in “The Wretched of the Earth” that really breaks this down in a way I could never do. Worth reading if you can.
I found that entire exchange very triggering. There's this irrational expectation for POC, especially Black women, to take on the "merciful" role in response to racism. It's an actual trope that exists, and it only sets us up for failure by contextualizing our valid anger as something irrational or something we should "rise above". I actively choose anger and intolerance towards bigots for this reason, because clearly, being gracious towards people who don't spare us the same behavior has not and will not ever work in our favor.
@@doctordavidchan1044 never stop talking about it! Seeing both side will never work when one is for freedom and the safety while the other fosters hate. Sending solidarity and strength to you!
@@kurlykayla9013 anger is productive and you’re so right. I commend you, it takes a lot to continue in that fight. Especially when other people become complicit by not saying anything.
Phil to the black person: You stood up against the nazi, that makes you a bad person Phil to the white supremacist: I empathize with you and absolve you of all you've done
Telling a black woman that calling out racism is enabling it by "dignifying it with a response" while also implying that it's her job to fix racism by taking the high road might be the grossest thing I've heard today. It's sad that it only _might_ be.
@@shoopmahboop1374 There are always plenty of candidates. I watch a lot of similar content to Joel's and I work in manufacturing with a bunch of boomer Trump supporters. Off the top of my head, yesterday also included "Shoplifters should be shot on sight," "Isreal is in the right because even if they stopped [committing war crimes against civilians], Hamas wouldn't just surrender," "Trans people are mentally ill child groomers and predators," "Women are responsible for all evil in the world because every evil person has a mother, and women choose to breed with assholes to create more assholes," and "All atheists are fundamentally bad people, a threat to our society, and quite possibly either literal demons or lying misotheists (they know god exists and willfully defy him out of wickedness and hatred)."
Yes doesn't he know that there are different rules for black people and white people in America? Literally every action a person takes they should first check the colour of their skin. "Am I black enough to be racist?" Is a question everyone should ask themselves every day.
@@SineN0mine3 Wow, what an incredibly disingenuous response to what I actually said. There is no "being black enough to justify racism" and anyone trying to sell you the narrative that that is the state of the discourse surrounding racial inequality in America today is peddling a truly hideous strawman. The reason we call out the garbage "two-sides-of-the-same-coin, we all suffer equally from bigotry" rhetoric isn't because there is nothing wrong with being a bigot if you are from a marginalized community. It is because those two demographics (marginalized people who hold actual bigoted beliefs vs non-marginalized people who hold actual bigoted beliefs) are so radically different in size, composition, influence, and systematic support that the comparison is utterly ludicrous. Yes, you could find some truly bigoted people in any demographic. And I will happily denounce that bigotry as such when I see it. But that is not what is being presented to us in this show, even though Phil is trying hard to frame it that way. What we are seeing is one side being encouraged to play up their rage about the way their entire community has been systematically mistreated by bigots. They say the words "I hate straight/skinny/white people," etc. and the showrunners frame it as the same thing as a skinhead saying "I hate black people." BUT when we get down to it and start asking questions, we find that these marginalized people actually understand that there is nothing inherently or genetically inferior about any of those groups. They know perfectly well that their problem is with the system as a whole and they are angered by the way in which those demographics help to perpetuate bigoted narratives against them. They are angry at a _community_ that has repeatedly and consistently failed them and committed atrocities against them. The actual bigots on this show have digust and hatred for each individual within the targeted groups and hold beliefs about their fundamental inferiority, genetic nature, and moral character. They believe that being gay/black/fat etc make them worse people by definition. Phil tried really hard to sell the idea that both sides were operating in this way, but it is blatantly apparent that we are comparing apples and oranges here. If I were to say, "God, I hate cis people, why do they have to make life so difficult and treat me like shit?" I would happily admit that that would be problematic of me. I should really say, "God, I hate the way our culture (which was developed by and for cis people) makes my life so difficult and encourages cis people to treat me like shit." Because that is a more accurate representation of my actual stance. More "politically correct", if you will. But I absolutely reject the idea (even if I did stupidly use the former wording in a fit of frustration) that that would in any way make me a bigot like the people who actively advocate for restricting my rights and access to safe medical care, who want to spread the fear that I will harm and abuse children, people that want to put me in real danger by forcing me (who is, to any outside observer, an average guy) to use the women's bathroom when I go out in public. People who call for communities to band together and force me out of "their" neighborhoods with torches and pitchforks if necessary, who want to hide my existence from children like some sort of dirty secret, and see any self-advocacy or visibility on my part as a sign of our society's moral decline. People who have called me mentally ill, a sexual deviant, delusional, sick, immoral, sinful, dangerous, unnatural, and an offense to God by my mere existence. People who held such power over me throughout my life that I _believed them._ I felt a deep, visceral disgust for myself. I felt hideous, monstrous, unlovable, and tainted. Not just when the topic came up or someone said something especially cruel, but all day, every day, in the deepest parts of my fundamental beliefs about myself. Anyone who tries to say that bigotry against cis people is an even remotely comparable phenomenon to what I have experienced doesn't know shit about what it means to be a group that society _actually_ treats unfairly or views as "other". Sure, when I see a trans person say something negative and too-broad about cis people, I call it out. And you know what happens? They change their language because they didn't actually mean that not going through gender transition is a flaw. They mean that being a cis person makes it less likely that someone will understand our plight or stand with us because of our cis-oriented culture's attitude, and the bigoted rhetoric of large groups of cis people. JFC, what a shocker that the same people who complain about CRT and gender studies have no idea what they are actually about.
Honestly, I always found what I like to call the "moral obedience assessment" that White people put on Black people as really racist. Like you have people who are part of the privileged racial group who stand by or even sympathise with White bigots while condemning and being overly critical when Black people or other oppressed racial groups respond with justified hatred. Like what Dr. Phil did here is just very narcissistic, he thinks himself a teacher whose words should be the only thing held in high regard compared to the Black women because he thinks to know better about dealing with racism
Dr Phil's special skill is telling us he's going to help someone, then immediately telling us its not his job to help that person, and making it sound like he's being completely consistent
There's something really telling about Phil saying "This isn't his issue" when the "skinnyphobic" guy starts being racist. Like, Phil thinks that bigotry comes from some kind of history of trauma. That's the symmetry that he's trying to paint. But it just doesn't. The skinhead doesn't have a history of being hurt by black people; he has a history of being taught that it's okay to be racist. Phil sees that with the person who's supposed to be angry at skinny people but can't acknowledge it because it would destroy the whole show
As a black person If I had a personal history of being hurt by white people that still wouldn't make it more okay for me to be hateful toward someone just because there white vs a white person mistreating someone because their black. Both of these things are equally bad and the reason behind why someone hates an entire group of people while it may explain why they hold the beliefs they do still isn't a justifiable reason to mistreat people. I wouldn't go out of my way to mistreat someone's whose white because I understand that not all white people are racist and that people should be treated as individuals not as a monolithic hivemimd with the exact same life experiences & opinions.
To be clear, I agree that personal trauma isn't how racism works; I'm saying I think that's how Dr. Phil thinks it works and that's part of the problem here. That's the parallel he's trying to set up, and that's why it doesn't work
I grew up in a bigoted household and as a kid, I inherited the rhetoric and beliefs I grew up around. I remember when the ads for this show were circulating, I was afraid that watching it would indoctrinate me to be tolerant toward people of other races/sexualities/body types, which would put me at odds with my household. It's so weird to be reminded of that time and those systems of thought
Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.
@BaxiBestBoi Thanks for informing people but this was a completely random comment to reply to. Your point is also pretty irrelevant to the video? Not that you shouldn’t bring it up, but it doesn’t actually discredit any of the arguments made in the video or in any comments I’ve seen. Discriminating against somebody for something specific isn’t okay just because the person they’re discriminating against also happened to be a horrible person in other ways. Nobody’s saying that Jon is a perfect guy who can do no wrong, I haven’t seen a single person say that, people are just saying it’s kind of messed up how his fatness was portrayed on this specific show, because this show is what we’re talking about right now, and the way people are portrayed on this show could have reinforced negative (and often unfair) beliefs about fat people. And in the case of the comment you’re responding to, literally nobody mentioned Jon or fatness in any way. I understand your concern, but I’ve seen this comment in the replies of several threads, and it was unnecessary in every case I saw it, so I just don’t really know what the purpose is. Maybe just make your own comment and leave it at that, rather than replying to completely random threads with the same unrelated thing? Joel did also acknowledge that Jon isn’t a good person and said bad things on the show. He just also didn’t like the aspect of the show that demonized Jon for things completely unrelated. You can think both.
@@ALotOfCancer oh no, I wasn't saying that the comments were discriminating in any way, sorry for the confusion. I was just pointing out that the purpose of the video and many comments *isn't* to defend everything that the people on the House of Hatred have ever done and say that they're perfect (or even good) people. Joel's video is mainly talking about how nonsensical and unfair the House of Hatred was, one aspect of that being how poorly Jon was treated and portrayed specifically for his fatness, and the comment I was replying to has been replying to multiple comment threads just letting people know that Jon isn't a good person (which Joel already pretty much acknowledged and said it was besides the point of the video, which it is, because the video is specifically about House of Hatred, not how good or bad of a person Jon is). Again, I totally understand why they want to let people know that Jon is a bad person, I'm just saying it seems a little random and doesn't actually debunk any of the points made in the video or comment section. And saying "your defense of these people goes out the window when you realize..." makes it seem like they're trying to debunk somebody, but nobody's defending anybody, so who are they talking to? Random example: if a person who happened to be black did something bad, I obviously wouldn't defend them just because they're black. However if people take their bad action as an opportunity to be racist towards them and perpetuate racist ideas, I sure as hell am going to call that out because it's never appropriate. If somebody then came up to me and said "well actually you shouldn't be defending them because they're a bad person", they're being silly. I'm not defending their actions, people are free to criticize them or even hate them for their actions, I'm just saying that discriminating against them specifically based on their identity is wrong no matter who they are or what they've done. And that's why I think it's weird that this person I'm replying to keeps acting like people are trying to defend Jon as a person. They're not, they're saying fatphobia and ableism is bad, and fatphobia and ableism was in the show targeted towards Jon. I hope that makes sense. It's not a big deal or anything, just thought it was out of place. I think it would have been best if this commenter just made their own comment informing people, along the lines of "in case you aren't aware, Jon is a really bad person who's still on the internet and has done all these horrible things" rather than basically accusing random people of defending him, and in the process brushing away any nuanced discussion of the House of Hatred.
12:35 Fun fact! If he did shower and not dry himself off in all regions, he could get a fungal infection from the trapped moisture which can eventually lead to his skin rotting and septic shock likely leading to death in a man of his size. It's actually a big issue hence why showering at that size should be taken with great care.
@@ItBeThatWaySometimes I never saw any dr Phil shows, I thought there was a live audience in one of them? I meant that they probably did paid to watch him anyway.
reminds me of another social experiment, how Santiago Genovés got 10 people stuck on a raft (the Acali Raft) for 101 days and tried to foment violence between them but they just ended up shunning him
Maybe they did when they couldn't come up with any questions for Dr Phil in that segment, and that's why they deleted it haha. Regardless, it's absolutely insane how long this man has been free to make tv shows
@@benjaminrabbit659now thàt reminds me of a real life lord of the flies story where some young boys from Tonga stole a raft and got shipwrecked on an island for 15 months. They all took care of each other and raised chickens and stuff. I first read about it in 'Humankind: a hopeful history' by Rutger Bergman, hiiighly recommend that book :)
The moral equivalence between "I hate these people because they mistreat me constantly" and "I just don't like 'em", and putting the former in a position to be mistreated by the latter; It's like the most centrist centrism that ever centristed.
Hating the supremacist for their ideology is reasonable. Hating all people who are of the same skin color as a supremacist (and assuming they're also supremacists) is stupid and racist. Dr. Phil is sexist. He considers a woman who yells to assert herself "manly" and "losing her dignity". Keeping that in mind, we haven't seen the actual show to see what event Dr. Phil is referring to. If she had done something (for instance) like put some dog doo in the white $upr€mac¡st guy's bunk, Dr. Phil would have a point.
@@volnartheunforgiving3952 Liberals use the term centrist as an insult. It means a coward or sellout who has abandoned the "right side of history" to see" both sides".
@@robk7266lol what? "dont get mad at the people who allowed this to happen, get mad at the people that accidentally left the tv channel on after law and order!!" no...
@@robk7266 "dr" phil and co. created this.. yea, a lot of people like to watch schlock, but you cant really fix that can you? it would be much easier to fix the actual problem. also, people would watch him no matter what he did, so he easily couldve done something better. what im saying is you are wrong, phil is the person we should be mad at, if we are to be mad at all.
He's in really bad shape, physically. I've seen him and robin walking through the paramount back lot between stages. He looks like he's going to kneel over any minute. And robin looks like a stick figure bobblehead
"We put 3 people who don't enjoy being oppressed and 3 people who love oppressing people in the same house and pretend that those are the same thing for 3 days"
They shouldn't bunk a female in the same room as a male or lesbian. There's a good chance this guy got locked up for whatever and had to join a prison gang (which are divided by race).
@@nothingineternityterms Are you that liberal that you don't care about your personal privacy? Or do you believe that people paid to be on these shows have sold away their privacy?
Calls it "a social experiment," directly intervenes within the first two minutes. Seems we have very different definitions of 'experiment' (and 'doctor')
I'm 23. I have memories of being threatened of Dr. Phil being used as a "call" whenever I was being a well... annoying 6 year old... Sure, my parents convinced me a TV remote was an actual phone... Oh wait that's kinda even more dystopian. I resent... a lot of that.
right after 9/11, I was called a "terrorist" in school for being in the Young Democrats. Like, I'm not kidding. I would be walking down the hallways and people would scream it at me.
@@XXMatt0040XXthreatening to call Dr Phil when you were SIX years old is so fucked up! I mean, it would be at any age, but especially that young. While you’re just behaving and reacting to your environment as any six year old would. My son is six and half now and I couldn’t imagine “disciplining” him like that. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that. Hopefully you’re in a better place now.
This reminds me of some joke I wish I could credit about moral conflicts in video games. Like, "Our game has really difficult moral dilemmas. One of the factions you can side with is openly fascist, racist, and oppressive; but the opposing faction - and here's the tricky part - can sometimes be a little rude."
Morality choices in video games: 1) Do the obvious right thing 2) Do the objectively evil 3) Do the obvious right thing but be a little snarky about it
@@tuesdaysellers1545 this is basically fallout 3 💀 It's even better if the "objective right side" actually DOES do some pretty fucked up things but the narrative completely ignores it to focus on something irrelevant instead.
@@emi_is_absentyou think the legion is bad just because they're a militaristic hyper-patriarchal fascist dictatorship? Well umm... Here's a NCR soldier depicted as a soyjak. Truly riveting discourse
They had a show where people had to compete to keep their job during the 2008 recession and another where kids ran their own town and accidentally drank bleach
Honestly, this show is like watching someone set up the next Stanford Prison Experiement, but then repeatedly stirring the pot when the people don't do the violence
@@mindacarpenter2996the SPE set out to show how people will abuse positions of power. It did, but it turned out to be the experimenter more than the participants
Dr Oz, Phil, and others came to my city, went to a homeless encampment and said “I am now entering the gates of hell” and exploited the homeless addicts for ratings and DGAF about helping. They razed the encampment but did nothing to solve shit. So they just moved the problems out onto the streets instead of getting them help.
Phil just seems like a kid putting snails in a box to make them race eachother but panicking when they start eating eachother. Like whenever he drives to them and goes into the room it's like a little kid picking up the snails and trying to put them back in line so that they race
"When I brought this skinhead into my house, I never imagined for a moment that he could have a negative impact on other people's behavior" I love the new sentences Joel creates
Interesting fact about Dr. Phil. He had the game Operation when he was 8 years old. He was able to remove all the pieces without setting off the buzzer so from then on he believed he was a "doctor." Turns out he didn't know the game didn't have any batteries in it.
Says he's doing it to break down social barriers between people. Gets pissed off when people start doing social bonding stuff. Says it's a social experiment. Gets pissed off when the experiment isn't immediately producing the results he wants. Guess it was actually all about the fireworks after all.
The “experiment” was ruined 10 minutes in because Phil interrupted their decision making and more or less joined the group. As the facilitator he should not be involved. He clearly didn’t pay attention to undergrad psych
I'm honestly pretty sure if he just let things go as normal then it would have just turned into "The Sex Raft" experiment, where a group of strangers were put on a boat with women in positions of authority to prove something about sexism and degeneracy or something. But, turns out, if you put people in a room together then they eventually just start to understand eachother's feelings and bond as a group? So instead of it being this big mess like the guy behind it wanted, it just turned into people hanging out and becoming friends over this weird shared experience. People in the House of Hate are literally trying to talk things out, like they're working through their issues and challenging their preconceptions already. The racist guy probably won't stop being racist, but it seems like he could tell he's not going to get anywhere and he'd have to reflect on what he was actually accomplishing. If shouting at the black woman doesn't do anything and just makes him angry, then he'd have to reconsile with that and learn to live with her. And that's a completely valid result, these might be the first steps towards slowly deradicalizing someone and showing them that exceptions exist that challenge their existing biases. But then here comes Dr. Phil, looking to stir the pot so he can get more drama for his show, and he's here to do this weird 'hate' exercise just to keep tensions high. Because it's always about him. It's only 'good therapy' if HE is the one solving the problem, so he manufactures situations where he can keep things going until the end of the 'experiment'. It's extremely telling that this is just how he feels like he HAS to do things even though there's a perfectly fine and honestly kind-of interesting premise already right there if they just wanted to let it play out and honestly follow the results. This man has never cared about helping people. He's only concerned with making himself out to be the hero, no matter how much he has to play the villain to get to that point.
@@chelseakitkatzHe's saying that they think neurotypical can be replaced with the word normal. Though, an autistic person acting normal would still mean they are acting autistic. Derp usually goes hand in hand with calling somebody a re***d, or implying it. Derp terms is likely something he made up to describe words he is to derpy to understand.
Yeah, that reminds me that I need to give them some more money, they're doing the lord's work preserving rare treasures. Also pure trash garbage like this
@@sucrazy-m4s In what way was she "contributing to discrimination"? "I have prejudices against white people because of past and present racist practices" is clearly not the same thing as "I have prejudices against black people because I see myself as a superior race that has gloriously oppressed black people for hundreds of years and regard desegregation as a tragedy" or whatever.
rarely Dr Phil will say something, well, if not profound, then at least useful, like "if they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you". far more often he'll say something like "if three people call you a horse you should buy yourself a saddle" (i used to watch a lot of Dr Phil)
Dr Phil should have made the lesbian and the homophobe have gay sex during the blackface bit. What better way to see what it’s like to be gay than to have gay sex?
And the gay woman would get the very heterosexual experience of having sex with a straight woman, just like straight men do. Everybody learns a lesson.
Dr. Phil accidentally gave us a really great example of how when you have a Nazi and a guy that tolerates Nazis, you actually just have two Nazis, and you shouldn’t let them hang out lest they radicalize others around them. Maybe he was totally just playing 4D chess and planned this the whole time (spoiler: he wasn’t) Edit: For those of y’all that didn’t catch it, the 4D chess comment is sarcasm (hence saying he “accidentally” did it and the “spoiler” bit at the end). I don’t need it explained to me that Dr. Phil is a racist and an idiot-I got that figured out. Some of y’all are so quick to assume someone is dumb and talk down to them that you miss important details and context, etc. Imagine how much you’re missing IRL when you don’t finish processing what someone says before you jump in to start treating them like they’re stupid. Imagine how that’s affecting your social life and what others think of you.
@@NoNoDontTouchMeThereIt shouldn’t really have ro be pointed out why you’re wrong - nazis want to segregate humanity according to inherent characteristics and ultimately rid society entirely of those they consider inferior. Accepting this means not standing in the way when people are deported, incarcerated and even murdered due to their inherenr characteristics, effectively making the outcomes of your position identical to those of the nazi’s. A leftist is a much more vague term where if we’re talking about socialism or communism it’s just alternative modes of production, but assuming we’re talking about attitudes to minorities and ethnicities, leftists wants injustices based on ethnicity, sexuality, gender, gender and a plethora of other inherent characteristics to be eliminated. Accepting leftists, in this context means not standing in the way of eliminating such injustices, or in other words, not actively working to maintain essentialized injustices as others attempt to eliminate them. This means that accepting leftism doesn’t contribute positively to the leftist cause, but not accepting it certainly actively contributes to maintaining said injustices to not accept it.
@@bewing77 here's the part where you missed my point; this take lacks nuance and is board. Tolerating means to withstand, not sharing ideals. OP's comment relates to anything being the same based on tolerating alone and that's what's wrong. What you brought up was completely pointless. Edit: spelling corrections
@@NoNoDontTouchMeThere if you thought about this comparison for like two seconds it wouldnt be hard to realize that those two things arent comparable and it means nothing. your statement means nothing. there is no societal and humanitarian harm to having leftist ideals, unlike literal fucking nazis and bigots.
@@MauseDays Not defending anyone, the bigots on this show are definitely racist and homophobic and disgusting. Simply saying it's odd for Dr. Phil to present himself as this virtuous guy who knows how to get rid of bigotry when it's so obvious that he pretty obviously shares some similar bigoted beliefs and more broadly seems to have absolutely no idea what makes bigotry bigotry in the first place.
So let me get this straight: Hating nazis is bigotry now? Man I've ran around my entire life thinking that hating nazis wasn't only normal but also civic duty.
Dr. Phil really just wanted to watch a racist say the N word at a Black person. Like he really, REALLY, wanted it. And he kept egging them on to do it. All so that when they finally just did it, Dr. Phil could just walk in like "Oh come on, Gary... ohh Gary.... why would'ja do somethin' that meaaannnnn?????" Like it's genuinely funny how little there is to disguise that this is just an objective attempt for Dr. Phil to see shitty people say shitty things just so he can walk out and condescendingly preach at them about how being a bigot is bad. He's not going to challenge any beliefs or preconceptions they have or try to understand where those beliefs come from, he just wants to shake his head in disappointment at the people doing the thing he straight-up coerced them into doing, lol!
It probably stems from some childhood trauma that has led him to seek out/create opportunities to look down on people in order for him to feel superior. Given his tendency towards religious language and moralizing, my guess is it is from his childhood religious environment/church. Hey look, I did a Dr. Phil on Dr. Phil (ie BS armchair pop-psycoanalysis). Does that mean I get to take over his media empire now?
I'll never forgive Dr. Phil for the impact he had on my mom. Granted my mom was extremely neglectful from the start, but he did play a role in what little attention she did pay to my health. I tried over and over to tell my mom I wasn't "right" that my mental health was in tatters. She would tell me that "Well I watched Dr. Phil and you don't put 8 pieces of toilet paper down and walk around it 20 times before going to the bathroom (as one guest DID something similar to highlight their OCD) so you're fine." About 15 years later and I am on my way to finally obtaining a degree that works with my disability, have a proper diagnosis of being on the spectrum (but just barely - think like the lightest color of yellow if it was a rainbow), and other mental health diagnoses. Now have medication and therapy as well. It put me into a never-ending cycle of medical debt and ruined my credit, but I am finally on a path to beginning to feel like myself again. But here is the key thing: I am one of the extremely lucky ones of those who have had their lives impacted by "Dr." Phil. Those who have had to go to his camps, be on his shows, or be manipulated in some way or form for his ego are the people who have suffered the greatest. There are hundreds of thousands of countless untold stories of people who had their lives ruined by him. And he will never be held accountable. All the bad press in the world could come out against him and would bounce off. He has done such a disservice for mental health that it will be decades, if ever until we find out the impact of his damage. The negative stigma he put on mental health during the early 2000s was so impactful. He deserves to be held accountable and never will be.
God you have no idea how hard I relate to this. I had a similar experience with my mother (who also suffers from several undiagnosed/diagnosed mental health problems) and it left me with some very damaging responses to my own mental health struggles. It also was so detrimental to her political views in a lot of cases even though it was more subtle. But yeah I feel for you a lot. So irresponsible of him and his team to put stuff like this out as a handbook for uninformed parents.
@@nikkimcdonald4562 You being a d*ck is completely unnecessary. Obviously her mother is responsible, but Dr Phil's show had a *huge* cultural impact for over two decades! Dozens of former guests on the show have talked about how they were manipulated, humiliated, and never actually given *any* help. He presents himself as a mental health professional, but he's a con artist who only cares about fame and money. How about holding him responsible for the shit he's done?!
@@nikkimcdonald4562 No, I face reality. I know she was a horrible, neglectful mother. But I do have to admit that even if she used Dr. Phil as a scapegoat, he did play a role. But again, my point was that I am one of the lucky ones that was impacted by him. A very lucky one. The real tragedy are the ones that had actual interactions with him - went to the camps, on his show, etc.
Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.
While bad at everything intended, I will say that this show and video is a fantastic way to explain to a person what the difference between prejudice and retaliatory hatred is, something that can actually be kind of hard to explain to people who haven't been on the receiving end of it. Bea treats Gary with complete respect and even by the end of the show seems to have developed a friendship of sorts with him. She doesn't have the belief ingrained in her that white people are less than her, she's had the misfortune of likely growing up in a place where racism is rampant and people with white skin have treated her poorly. Gary on the other hand can calmly drop N bombs and call them lesser just by merit of being black. He's not reacting to anything a black person actually did to him, he's not on the receiving end of any kind of hatred or hostility, his beliefs aren't formed by personal experiences, it's the culture around him that told him that these people are subhuman and he has to be taught otherwise to start respecting them as people.
Dr Phil would have run the Stanford Prison Experiment, without a doubt. Giving an instruction, getting a mild and calm response from participants, getting mad about it from behind the scenes and then going in to shake things up? That’s the exact thing Zimbardo did.
"That's not his issue," is a perfect encapsulation of the attitude of the show. Willful or not, there's a complete ignorance about how people aren't one thing. The shock at the racist guy spreading his racism to other people who weren't cast as the racist guy displays a complete irresponsibility and lack of research into the nature of bigotry on the showrunner.
I watched this at the time. I was a middle schooler, and this was my understanding of bigotry. The important thing to remember though is that this was THE mainstream understanding of bigotry. I'm glad that there's more of an understanding of systems of oppression now rather than just individual bigotry.
Racism is when people hang black people and yell at them. If that specifically is not happening to me or by me, anything that happens is not racism. (Insert hateful ideology)
I wouldn't call it an understanding - that's giving far too much credit to the attitudes of the time. People understood bigotry, but this was also the era of political incorrectness to the extreme. It was so weirdly encouraged by EVERYONE, and it was really just a big ol' north american excuse to let these things go with a slap on the wrist.
"If John's circumstances were entirely different than what they are and he demanded consideration for the circumstances he's in right now but we're imagining he'd no longer be in, you'd think he was dishonest and lazy, wouldn't you?" - A genuine Dr Phil insight
I love how Phil's reaction to John's racism was "It's not even his issue". As if it's impossible for a white person to be racist just because they're fat?! "He's supposed to hate skinny people, how could he be racist?" To me it's very revealing about how Dr. Phil views people, and how little he understands his own profession. He seems to think that scolding people is how you change them, even though it's more likely to make them defensive; and doesn't understand that bringing people who explicitly hate each other based on immutable characteristics are more likely validate each other's bigotry through nasty behavior.
Just like a world reknowned psychiatrist would... Dr Phil starts his journey with these people he allegedly wants to heal by... lying to them and being disrespectful for literally no reason.
@@ookamiblade6318 He isn't licensed because he has no need to renew his license. Phil KNOWS how to be a decent psychiatrist, but chooses not to because his show creates an incentive structure that rewards ignorance and casual cruelty.
The fact that it NEVER comes up “Dr.”Phils 1st wife divorced him because he was cruel & horribly controlling has ALWAYS bothered me. (Apparently he saw that as a failure… NOT on HIS part… but the fact she left him) it was embarrassing for him. I think that’s why he makes it a point to hold Robin up on a pedal stool… it’s not about how he feels about her… it’s the image he wants to portray.. His history is CRAZY. It’s obvious he’s someone who has a NEED for power. Whether he’s bullying addicts, someone in a manic episode, or telling a woman whose dealing w/racism to ‘buck up’, he revels in not only making them feel helpless… but the validation as well as it being witnessed by the whole audience (on set.. as well as the 1’s watching at home) I’ve gone to rehab w/addicts on his show… they were specifically told to they would be medicated upon arrival… only to be told once they got their “u need to go to skid row to ‘get well’ And THEN, they would bring it up on the show EXCEPT they would twist it to make it seem they just “ran off” to go get high… Mind u… they also did this to a PREGNANT HEROIN ADDICT who flew out there w/her mother. They were desperate for help, couldn’t afford rehab for her… & then when Dr. Phil brought them on stage, he berated HER AND THE MOM for letting her USE on ‘HIS WATCH’ The mom just “went with it” & let them throw her under the bus cause she really thought that was the only way they’d get her help. She & her daughter came out later when they ended up having to find her treatment elsewhere (I believe)
He's pure evil. Stuff like Springer was exploitative but it wasn't supposed to be therapy and I'm pretty sure most of the people involved knew what they were in for. Dr Phil always presented what he did as for the good of the patient while he was abusing some of the most vulnerable people alive.
@@sleepybird1 , What stuck with me was him calling a 10 year old kid a "serial killer in the making"... He didn't have a license to practice psychiatry in California at that time and was making "clinical determinations" on his show. Since it's called "Dr. Phil"... people took it seriously.
There is something absolutely insane about taking someone who is 700 pounds, setting them up for failure, and then tuning to someone and going “yeah doesn’t this confirm all your biases? Are you ashamed that you were proved right?” Like what was he even trying to accomplish
@@wmdkittyyeah, I'm sure it's just cuz he's lazy and has absolutely nothing to do with him being 700 pounds. I'm sure you'll also argue that he simply lazied his way up to 700 pounds despite how absurd that would be to actually believe.
The more I know about Dr. Phil, the more I believe he either never even passed his bachelor in psychology, or he decided to take everything he learned and use it to abuse people. Everything he does and says goes against even basic common sense in psychology.
if i recall correctly he actually did lose his license to practice psychology in 2006 because he wanted to pursue his television career. he is literally just a fraud💀
Depends what you get taught in your bachelors. Plenty of psychology was used to support bigotry. And depending when he did his BA there were probably not any modules on this kind of thing. Many students won't engage with what they learned much deeper than surface level required for essays. Psychology especially historically has attracted loads of cruel people, so I'm kind of tired of the assumption that studying psychology attracts empathetic people or makes people more empathetic- it can do, but it does not inherently do that.
As a trans, gay, fat guy, I dont really think minorities and marginalized communities can change the minds of their oppressors. They are already conditioned to not listen to you, to not believe you, and to view you as lesser than them. Change for the most part starts with the people that are close to them. Someone's family and friends criticizing them leaves a bigger impression because their opinions matter to them.
@@iihh517you’re low iq so I’m gonna regret even engaging with you, but yes, as one can imagine a group that despises and greatly outnumbers another would typically lead to some kind of oppressive mechanic in a society.
This reminds me of the Acali Expedition, in 1973 there was a social experiment performed on a boat with 5 men and 6 women, and the one running the experiment, Santiago Genoves, studying the sociology of violence, aggression and sexual attraction in human behavior when stuck in social isolation and with limited space They spent more than 100 days out in the Caribbean sea with no engines and the subjects just did their tasks, got along with each other and even made a strong bond that persisted long after the experiment, while Santiago got progressively more and more frustrated that they weren't tearing each other to shreds, afterwards the only person the subjects described disliking was Genoves himself and confessing they had at some point considered a mutiny to kill him and dispose of him at sea Dr.Phil is straight up just being a dick because he made this whole show under the expectation of seeing people fight, and when they act calm and civilized he gets all angry and tries to stir shit up himself
Does he think bigots just run rampages every time they see the group they hate? This is a very diverse country, they are forced to interact with their hated group every day
Even better: the scientist specifically thought that the men on the raft would fight over the women, and he put a woman in charge of the ship to see if it would piss the men off further. But he completely ignored her advice and overrode her when she was trying to keep the raft safe in a hurricane, which ACTUALLY annoyed all the subjects bc they trusted her judgement lmao
The new show they based off that experiment pissed me off, I had to stop watching it because they totally lost the plot of what they were supposed to be doing. They started introducing voting people off when you're supposed to be working with the people you were originally put with.
25:28 prediction: Stacy and John go wakeboarding together, but John is too heavy and capsizes the boat. As Stacy is drowning, John grabs her and rolls to a supine position in the water, allowing her to sit on his belly, completely out of the water. After the cut, Doctor Phil explains that this is a rescue that only truly fat people can do. Stacy recants her former bigotry and sincerely apologizes to John, who warmly accepts her apology.
love how the intro videos begin with the subjects aggressively charging toward the camera like they're about to start their verse in a horrorcore collab track
Dr. Phil brought a Cum Town era Nick Mullen bit to life before the idea of being a loser with a podcast even existed in the mainstream. A true innovator.
Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.
Black woman being forced to share a room with a huge, violent skinhead: Do they seriously expect for me to a share a room with that guy? Dr. Phil and his editing team: Jeeze, are you hearing this? What an unrepentant bigot! They really are just two sides of the same coin!
I watched this on TH-cam over a decade ago, and one of the parts of the show you never got was at the end where they all have to say a secret. Stacey and John are bi, Christine had an abortion, etc. What I remember the most is that Tess said she had also had an abortion, and dr Phil was immediately like “SEE! You’re a HYPROCRITE! You ARE a breeder.” It was a wild time and tbh I’m just glad no one was seriously hurt.
@@rnw2739 Used in native American art, too. Used to be called the "rolling log" but they stopped using it after WWII. He probably got those in prison. Prison gangs are divided along racial lines.
@@marthademovimaus5140 His dad is a skinhead and passed his racism to his son. He says this in the video. Why are you making up a fake excuse for the white supremacist?
If I were to guess, I would imagine what Dr Phil was going for was a kind of proximity effect - being around someone for extended periods of time usually makes it easier to understand and humanize them. BUT you could do that just by having these characters hang out. And the absolute best way to do that, would be to LET THEM TALK. So him interrupting their small-talk and saying how he hates "cocktail parties" makes no sense whatsoever, if the goal is anything like that. Failing that, I don't understand why he did this.
the point is to generate entertaining conflict. same as his show where he brings in the most troubled mentally unstable guests and exploits them, trying to get their bad behavior on tv for entertainment. "resolving bigotry" is just his justification for it lol
@@memechild2025Before Mr. Phil's TV show, it was suspended for a bit pending an investigation, but afterwards he was cleared and it was reinstated. After his TV show, he saw no reason to renew it, and so he let it expire. He hasn't been a licensed psychiatrist since '06, I believe.
Actual clinicians that are great at their profession n care will constantly keep up with the newest information in their field with classes n seminars. Phil is indeed a greedy uncaring "reality star"
"Social experiment" usually means starting drama or putting people in hostile situations while the instigator sits back and munches on some popcorn. Couldn't be more pronounced here. Phil has the luxury of getting away with it because he's a man on TV and his show has "Dr." in the name, so he knows what he's doing
Or literally just abusing/bullying the test subjects until you get the result you wanted in the first place. A lot of social experiments are designed to confirm a pre-existing bias.
Phil abandoning the very first challenge of the first episode because nobody said anything racist within the first 60 seconds is a fantastic moment
The fact that he straight up lied about the consequences too. He didn't even let them get to the point of saying "We're sleeping in the living room," he just says "We never intended on letting you choose lmao"
In fairness, _I guess,_ that kind of thing has happened with other so-called social experiments run by unqualified persons seeking justifications for their worldview instead of just seeking knowledge.
"These people are talking like normal people. What the hell?"
He's still at this kind of shit. He invited my sisters girlfriend, a decently popular fatfashion personality . They lied and said it was about body positivity and ending fatphobia. Thankfully she turned it down but the woman who didn't want so lucky. It was all "it's unhealthy to live like this so we'll hook up with a trainer, how about that?"
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@@rowana5607try again. weren't** so lucky....
The line, "Why are you getting other people to be racist Skin-Head Gary!!" just absolutely took me out.
And the “you’ve got better sense than that”
What are you basing that on, Dr. Phil? Why would a violent skin-head have “better sense than that”?
Yeah, it's like saying, "Hey Used car salesman Dave," how come you keep trying to convince people to buy used cars?"
😂😂
Feels like a south park skit💀💀
Sounds like something out of Flight of the Concords 😂
Remember kids, if you ever find yourself in a difficult life situation, just ask yourself: What would Dr. Phil do? And then don't do that.
@ReallyBadJuJuI know, right? I cannot tell you the life lessons I learned from 'Rock of Love'. I still refer to my notes whenever I have a problem.
He's not even a real doctor
truer words have ne'er been uttered by a mortal
i would say that you should do the opposite. if he turns to the right, turn always left, even if you end up in the other part of the city
@@stellviahohenheimTechnically he is or more aptly was, he had his license to practice revoked when one of his patients (a barely legal college student) reported him for stalking her and harassing her at work and home outside of sessions.
"Why is John being racist? That's not even his issue."
Never has anyone said so much in so few words.
In Dr. Phil's mind there's no way someone can be both fat and racist.
Dr. Phil thinks that because he's bald, there's no way he can also be an asshole.
Or shocked the the neo-Nazi guy was homophobic. Like dude.
Now we know he doesn't even treat people on his shows like actual people, just like one-dimensional characters.
The fat guy, the racist, the black woman... that's all he can see.
"Racist people are better than fat lazy people!"
-Dr.Phil, probably
It’s just that it wasn’t his “discussed and agreed upon issue” for the show. Any other issues can wait until after taping
dr phil saying "thats not even his issue" to someone else being racist is the perfect look into his psyche. like, he doesnt care about them as people, but only as physical manifestations of opinions to be used as props for entertainment
I also love that he made the assumption that bigots with "one issue" wouldn't be likely to also display tendencies of "another issue" like that! For someone with a doctorate in psychology, it is stunning how ignorant Phil is of the subject. Of course, his brand is built on cutting through the "bullshit" of nuance and care associated with therapy to get through to the core "common sense" perspective that the audience endorses, so he has an incentive to ignore well established psychological ideas he knows won't be popular with his audience. Incredible.
@@RadicalShiba1917Hell, I only have a bachelor's in psychology and I'm shocked
Dr. Phil unironically struggling to understand that someone can be both fat AND racist is just so perfect. It's not like racism could stem from feeling insecure and isolated as you blame your problems on other people, some people are just racist. And racists can't be homophobic, those are two different things! Why would there be overlap, Phil thinks! It's not like there's a huge intersection between white supremacy, homophobia, transphobia, antisemitism, and incel culture!
We picked a racist and he's the only one allowed to be a racist on the show, lol! If the racist isn't saying the N word and other people are, then that's not a problem with our casting, it just means we need to intervene to make the fat one not also steal the racist trait.
Fun fact: Dr Phil stopped renewing his licence to practice psychology in 2006, has never held a licence to practice in California where his show is filmed, and to get around this determined that his show was primarily for entertainment purposes, rather than to offer any actual help to people.
@@RadicalShiba1917literally came here to say this😂Like, Dr Philip couldn’t comprehend you could have multiply types of hatred in your heart.
Bro, the difference between their introductions was so stark. Those who have real marginalizations are just yelling and saying exaggerated phrases, like they were just asked to play up their "hatred", while the other participants with real bigotries are so calm about it, they casually say the worst stuff you've ever heard. It's cause you know they don't have to play it up. They just feel that way.
And too many people think Bigotry is When Loud anf not actually related to Hatred or Treatment of Others or any of that...
@@youtubeuniversity3638 exactly.
I wonder how many people watching this show assumed that everyone was being honest. That fat/gay/black people are just ANGRY while the bigots are calm and collected.
YES, I thought the same thing! The minorities' intros all felt very forced and acted out, while the others just truly spoke from a place of internal hatred, or at least a strong knowledge of how to talk down to minorities. Truly an awful freaking show
I was thinking that just in the intro - I think typically a marginalized person's reasons for "hating" the oppressive class is very different than real bigotry. In the former case, that "hatred" is defensive, born from the original marginalization, and you see that in their own words, the Black woman and lesbian couch their anger at white/straight people in their experiences of being tossed aside by those very people.
It's interesting that in this 2000s era (and today really) there's a focus on "ALL hatred is bad, let's all get along!" Without a recognition that all of that prejudice comes from the same place: the initial, dominant forms of bigotry of the straight white hegemony. Maybe let's focus on fixing that as a society? No, that wouldn't make good tv? OK, for sure...
Curious that Dr. Phil didn't invite someone who hates bald people or crappy daytime talk shows. Guess he couldn't take what he dishes out.
Invite the bum fights guy.
Considering what his wife looks like, I would have greatly enjoyed someone who hates plastic surgery
Dr. Phil and his staff are all significantly overweight so I guess the "fat phobic" chick counts.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 I see what you did there ;) Dr. Phil had the Bum Fights guy on the show to chastise him for profiting on other people's suffering, but the Bum Fights Guy went to the show dressed up as Dr. Phil to harass him saying that he does the exact same thing.
@@cigarette420Can I hate horribly done and unnecessary plastic surgery pushed upon aesthetically good looking young people through social pressures to match the current singular face considered to be the beauty standard of the day?
8:05 "That's not even his issue" is so funny. Like he can't fathom how any of them would end up existing outside of the respective bigotries he's assigned to be their whole thing
Bro said "pick a struggle"
BRO you are supposed to be the fat guy, not the racist one!!!! You’ve ruined my show!!!
its a great example of why conservatives get angry and confused when leftists assume multiple -isms of a person. if youre one, youre usually all of em. but to them its like, why would being racist necessarily mean youre sexist too?? they have nooOooOothing to do with each other
Few can imagine what it was like to live in a world before Dr Phil had broken down the walls of hatred and prejudice that plague all of our lives
yeh thanx phil
Based and PhilPilled
Second coming of Phil Christ 🙏
I’d love to see this show be revived, it seems like just some stupid fun.
@@rickkroll Wait a minute... Red Pill... Rd Pill... dR Pill... Dr Pill... Dr Plil... Dr Phil!
My god...! Do you know what this means?!
I hope so, because I sure don't.
"After tonight, I would not call Bea and her friends ******s anymore. I would call them African American." Funniest line of the show for a bad reason...
That made me bust out laughing. I was not prepared for that kind of deadpanning
its rly funny but im also gonna read into it and say it feels like a good representation of how some bigots will like or even be friends/partners with a member of the group they hate but continue being bigots. they just wont be bigoted towards "the good ones"
@@BlisaBLisa Liberals who are racist use the term African American because they are worried about being canceled.
The f***ing babiest of steps lol
Him doing blackface was hilarious I'm sorry.
It's bizarre how Doctor Phil thinks these people could only be one thing, so you hate the skinny people, but you can't be racist as well, hating the skinnys is your deal. Nothing else. You don't have anything else going on.
Bigotry is rarely not intersectional.
He thinks people are two-dimensional cartoon characters who have one shtick going on. And it's sad to say, but that is how most people seem to think bigotry works?!
The fact that he got so offended that humans could engage with multiple bigotries was classic Phil. "What are you doing?! I can't be reductionist about this!"
The whole world was shocked when the racist guy also hates gay people on episode 3
@@jerryhicks9025 Lol, yeah cause we've never heard of someone hating *both* at the same time! 😮😅
Phil: "We did this to break down the walls of prejudice and hatred that plague our lives ."
[Moments later, when everyone is getting on well enough,]
Phil: "Well, I hate smalltalk, chit-chat, and cocktail parties, so I'm not wasting ten minutes of my life listening this crap."
*proceeds to purposefully stoke the flames of hatred*
Aw, he really turned that house of hatred into a *home* of hatred.
😂😂😂
A house is not a home with out the hate
@@mikepj67 A hate hut? A bigot bungalow? Or just a home o' phobia?
😅🤗
@@KenLieckhome o’ phobia deserves an award
“So that includes me? Ya hate me? Huh? Huh?” Wow, Phil really can’t help but make this “experiment” literally all about himself personally from the very start. Just utterly insane for any procedure presenting itself as science.
I was fucking cracking up when he started his “Would you hate me just because I’m white 🥺” shit
he looked so sad about it too 😭
@becca867 "That offends my sensibilities." And the other indignant or sanctimonious bullshit he usually says.
Yes Phil we all hate you. It's not cus you're white
"For this next part I want to to come up with three questions you want to ask -your partner- *ME!* "
Dr Phil always struck me as a bully. He wants to come off as caring and understanding, but he brings people onto his show he KNOWS his audience is going to dislike. I saw one episode where he had a trans lady on, and he continually misgendered her, and sat there with her father while he cried, as if his feelings were more important than hers. He takes injured parties - young teens who have serious traumas in their lives - and broadcasts them to make money. It's really not helping anyone.
In other words a less underhanded version of “Rock Bottom” from The Simpsons
he's just one of those high school bullies who become therapists but with a gigantic platform and also boatloads of money
@@biggestastiest somehow therapy seems to attract a percentage of these cretins. Like, people who didn't realise they wanted to bully others until they got their degree maybe?
He has a formula and he knows it works on his dumb audience. They always need someone to hate. If there are grey areas that is confusing for them.
Was this a different one or the one where they were abandoned by their family? There was one like that, and the comments were feeling sympathy for the guy because their poor baby is trans (Oh no!), meanwhile they had no place to live because they were thrown on the street lol. You'd think if they truly loved you, they wouldn't throw you out like garbage.
The fact that Dr. Phil really thought that the best way for the white supremacist and the black woman to bond was *literal blackface* just goes to show how he's a man who truly has never had to go through a single day of bigotry in his entire life.
I mean he didn't even consider someone might have more than one bigotry, like the skinhead being a homophobe too.
hey kid "stick's and stones will break your bones but names can never hurt you" come on you bloody snowflake you ain't goung to melt!
also phil isn't a real medical dr. he plays one on tv but he is not now or ever been in practice with a real license, like that guy Oz also just a tv dr. actor not a real medical dr.
@@antlerrIt's hard to believe, but Dr. Oz is a retired heart surgeon! Now he is just a sell-out! ✌️
@@laurad4822he's not even a doctor of psychology??? why do people care of he's a doctor if it's not in a relevant subject😭😭????!!
It's nuts how Phil thought he was making some kind of point about "both sides just need to stop hating each other," but he unintentionally proved that that's not how it works
You're telling me if you out two people who hate each other in a room together, they'll be mean??? Unexpected result, I never would have known if the good doctor didn't make this show.
@@matthewalvarojr.2634idk if that’s the point op was making and more as if there can be a “both sides” parity between oppressor and the oppressed.
I feel like if he was paying any attention at all he'd have realised that just from the *casting*. All the marginalised people seem to be playing up their hatred for the show while the racist dude has literally served time for hate crimes.
Why can't the mauling victim just hug the lion who attacked them 🥺🥺
Why would anyone be surprised that Dr Phill both-sideses everything? His whole shtick is being "above it all"
"We found a bunch of bigots and people who are angry at bigotry, treated those behaviors as equal and opposite, and stuck everyone in a house together!" This whole show is like a one-off gag you'd see in the background of satirical dystopian movie, playing on a TV so an establishing shot isn't completely silent.
We got a lion who hates gazelles and a gazelle who hates lions and put them in a house together. Truly the hatred is equal and balanced.
Or a very bad family guy gag
@@eliasmg9144 I was going to go with South Park, but same energy.
@@Craxin01i was thinking a rick and morty joke
@@leonrussell9607 Yeah, same energy there too.
It's incredibly telling that Dr Phil can just bust out a extensive list of INCREDIBLY HARSH insults for John and then end with "...and that's what YOU think of him, right?"
RIGHT! that was insane because you’d think he’d know better than to say that (I mean… if you know who he is you wouldn’t think that because he said it on purpose because he’s fucking cruel)
I didn’t realize this was a thing but I think Dr. Phil is like… a fat pick me? Like he’s pretty hefty, and he does stuff this a lot, like he wants to feel superior.
Right? Like I think that’s just what you think of him, Phil….
Oh yeah, that's his whole schtick. Saying exactly whatever horrible insulting things pop into his head, in the most condescending way possible, and then attribute that to whoever the subject came to the show with. He claims to bring people together, to solve problems, but in every single instance I've seen, the only thing he does is sow division and generate outrage. He'll take an otherwise stable relationship where two people have minor grievances, like someone not washing the dishes, and then blows that up into these huge problems for the people to "work on"
"you started fights? you slugged them?" Dr. Phil says to the man guilty of literal hate crimes
“he’s taking garys side on this, its not even his issue” wow this line is so telling. he says this like bigotry is just some discrete isolated character flaw.
“No you’re supposed to be a one-dimensional character."
Ansel; thank you so much for using the correct spelling of 'discrete'. People getting it wrong is one of my bêtes noires.
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 finally getting the recognition I deserve
@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609...do some folks spell it with a "k"...?
@@youtubeuniversity3638 I have a career behind me in language teaching. You'd be surprised at what people think they can get away with, including other staff members.
I would get out more but I don't want to get my fountain pen wet.
"I hate small talk, chit chat, and cocktail parties"
Phil: is literally a therapist
he’s not even a qualified therapist 🤩
@@delilah8809 Not anymore at least.
In his defense... no he isn't. Hasn't been since 1985.
Yeah this man has ZERO rapport building skills. I can only imagine what he was like back in the day as an actual therapist
@@Usagi393it would be like having Jordan Peterson as your therapist: nothing would get done and you would have to listen to them rant about the hippies, reverse racists, trans people, Obama, etc.
"You can't be racist! You're already fat!"- DR Phil
You can't be FAT, you're already a lesbian!
I knooow like pick a struggle
I think Phil only looked at these people for one specific characteristic. Unlike a lot of introductions to people and characters alike on tv, these people are specifically only talking about this one characteristic, with absolutely nothing else like hobbies or interests unless they specifically relate to that one characteristic. The fat guy being racist is probably because Phil put no effort into learning more about these people aside from one characteristic (being gay, racist, etc) and that lead to multiple people dunking on one minority because Phil didn’t try to ensure that the people he was bringing on didn’t fulfill more than one characteristic, he just chose whoever had at least one or whoever was most vocal about their beliefs. Which is pretty scummy.
bro said pick a struggle
@@Nox.x_ART Like dude was genuinely surprised the skinhead was homophobic. Did he do like any research?
The idea that the lesbain equivalent to putting on a fat suit or doing blackface is Rock climbing is hilarious
I didn’t even realize that that was the implication being made here 🤣😭😭
unironically just saying, lesbians love rock climbing
something something harnesses
Love Dr. Phil being like “oh so you hate me?? Oh so you don’t like me?? We have a problem cause I’m white?!” Like bro, tf? Nothing was about you until you made it about you.
if i was her i would have said yes
"No, Phil, I don't hate you because of your skin color. I hate you because of who you are as a person."
It's like guys who hear the word men and immediately take it personally. Older black people have been burned many times before, if you actually talk to any one of them they don't hate all white people, they hate white people that carry that air of privilege and superiority over others, which is a sadly large group. We see the way people look at urban areas and call us thugs, but a criminal of another color is just misunderstood or it's their upbringing.
Again, not all white people, but the immediate "Well, _I'm_ not like that" and getting aggressively defensive doesn't help.
The look on her face kind of said it all. "If you're going to be like that, we might have a problem, Dr. Phil!" is her thought right then I bet
I caught that too, you hate white people? So we have a problem then?
God damn, was every reality tv show from this era doing a blackface % racism speedrun?
Reality TV is about doing everything you can to keep up the ratings, which means giving people the worst of humanity to laugh at.
“Look we’re doing the shocking bad thing but for GOOD REASONS, we’re so terrible that it proves we’re good.”
Gave people permission to watch a train wreck but also the self gratifying feeling of being on the “enlightened” side.
@@limner123 It's even weirder when there's a famous black person encouraging it - See Tyra Banks with America's Next Top Model blackface. And believe me, she had no one pushing her to do this on the show. The 90s and early 2000s had this really weird vibe that you could somehow solve racism with shit like this. There's an entire goddamn show, though I forget the name of it, where a black family and a white family have to live in the same house, but not only that, they made the black family do white-face makeup(not saying it's worse, no other way to describe it concisely) and the white family do black-face makeup to force them to shallowly experience what it's like being white or black.
please don't believe the hype 🎵
Yes, actually they were. I don't miss this era of television.
I feel like Dr. Phil would fit in perfectly as that researcher guy on the sex raft (tldr a guy went out on a raft with a bunch of people expecting them to snap and murder each other, or fight over the women for some kind of "human nature" study and got pissed when they just became good friends and bonded instead of killing each other immediately)
Didn't he also appoint a woman captain so the men would be sexist about being subservient to a woman, but in reality they were just chill and listened to her because she knew more about the subject?
And then he got mad about it?
And shout out to the fact that the researcher ruined the sex raft's vibe so much that they actually started considering whether or not to murder him cause he kept doing shit like using slurs to create conflict. Meanwhile, they were just vibing and having secret orgies
I think they’re were actually planning to kill him (I could be misrembering if it was that far) because he was getting really nasty and was being racist to one of the women to cause a fight. So there was fighting and at least thought about murder, but purely because of him.
OMG, yes, I thought immediately of that guy 😂
@@liam3284Far too many. People often seem to have the idea that everyone thinks like them unless they're crazy in general. Where some would say "I don't get it" more say "no one sane/smart/etc. thinks that!" It feels like more to me anyways.
I love how Dr. Phil's reaction to a guest being both fat AND racist is basically a GM getting mad at one of his players for multiclassing
It's a legal character!
Hey, atleast multiclassing is a variant rule. This here makes even less sense
This is the funniest possible way to phrase that idea oh my god
Lmfao
The idea that resisting racism through anger is somehow "giving your dignity away" is absolutely abhorrent. it dissolves the responsibility of condemning these actions because its also not gary's fault because he has trauma? it just individualises and creates pathology until it goes away
As a mixed race person, it pisses me off how as minorities, we're just expected to be forever compassionate towards bigoted white people. We're told that racism will go away if we stop talking about it.
I'm also a transgender man, and I'm tired of how my right to exist is viewed as a debate that has two sides. We're always accused of having an agenda or being too political, yet our very existence is viewed as political and inherantly sexual, even when we're children.
@@doctordavidchan1044you definitely hit the nail on the head. It’s part of the American pathology. “MLK was martyred for their sins and ended slavery so now racism doesn’t exist”. It’s awful, all oppressed people have the right to self defense by any means necessary. Those in the group with power would never consider living like those they subject, the entire American mythos of revolution and freedom is built around that fact. Fanon’s chapter “on violence” in “The Wretched of the Earth” that really breaks this down in a way I could never do. Worth reading if you can.
I found that entire exchange very triggering. There's this irrational expectation for POC, especially Black women, to take on the "merciful" role in response to racism. It's an actual trope that exists, and it only sets us up for failure by contextualizing our valid anger as something irrational or something we should "rise above". I actively choose anger and intolerance towards bigots for this reason, because clearly, being gracious towards people who don't spare us the same behavior has not and will not ever work in our favor.
@@doctordavidchan1044 never stop talking about it! Seeing both side will never work when one is for freedom and the safety while the other fosters hate. Sending solidarity and strength to you!
@@kurlykayla9013 anger is productive and you’re so right. I commend you, it takes a lot to continue in that fight. Especially when other people become complicit by not saying anything.
Phil to the black person: You stood up against the nazi, that makes you a bad person
Phil to the white supremacist: I empathize with you and absolve you of all you've done
Based
Based
Cringe
@@leonrussell9607 no.
*empathize
Telling a black woman that calling out racism is enabling it by "dignifying it with a response" while also implying that it's her job to fix racism by taking the high road might be the grossest thing I've heard today. It's sad that it only _might_ be.
What was the other gross thing?
@@shoopmahboop1374 There are always plenty of candidates. I watch a lot of similar content to Joel's and I work in manufacturing with a bunch of boomer Trump supporters. Off the top of my head, yesterday also included "Shoplifters should be shot on sight," "Isreal is in the right because even if they stopped [committing war crimes against civilians], Hamas wouldn't just surrender," "Trans people are mentally ill child groomers and predators," "Women are responsible for all evil in the world because every evil person has a mother, and women choose to breed with assholes to create more assholes," and "All atheists are fundamentally bad people, a threat to our society, and quite possibly either literal demons or lying misotheists (they know god exists and willfully defy him out of wickedness and hatred)."
Yes doesn't he know that there are different rules for black people and white people in America? Literally every action a person takes they should first check the colour of their skin.
"Am I black enough to be racist?" Is a question everyone should ask themselves every day.
@@SineN0mine3 Wow, what an incredibly disingenuous response to what I actually said.
There is no "being black enough to justify racism" and anyone trying to sell you the narrative that that is the state of the discourse surrounding racial inequality in America today is peddling a truly hideous strawman.
The reason we call out the garbage "two-sides-of-the-same-coin, we all suffer equally from bigotry" rhetoric isn't because there is nothing wrong with being a bigot if you are from a marginalized community. It is because those two demographics (marginalized people who hold actual bigoted beliefs vs non-marginalized people who hold actual bigoted beliefs) are so radically different in size, composition, influence, and systematic support that the comparison is utterly ludicrous.
Yes, you could find some truly bigoted people in any demographic. And I will happily denounce that bigotry as such when I see it. But that is not what is being presented to us in this show, even though Phil is trying hard to frame it that way. What we are seeing is one side being encouraged to play up their rage about the way their entire community has been systematically mistreated by bigots. They say the words "I hate straight/skinny/white people," etc. and the showrunners frame it as the same thing as a skinhead saying "I hate black people."
BUT when we get down to it and start asking questions, we find that these marginalized people actually understand that there is nothing inherently or genetically inferior about any of those groups. They know perfectly well that their problem is with the system as a whole and they are angered by the way in which those demographics help to perpetuate bigoted narratives against them. They are angry at a _community_ that has repeatedly and consistently failed them and committed atrocities against them. The actual bigots on this show have digust and hatred for each individual within the targeted groups and hold beliefs about their fundamental inferiority, genetic nature, and moral character. They believe that being gay/black/fat etc make them worse people by definition. Phil tried really hard to sell the idea that both sides were operating in this way, but it is blatantly apparent that we are comparing apples and oranges here.
If I were to say, "God, I hate cis people, why do they have to make life so difficult and treat me like shit?" I would happily admit that that would be problematic of me. I should really say, "God, I hate the way our culture (which was developed by and for cis people) makes my life so difficult and encourages cis people to treat me like shit." Because that is a more accurate representation of my actual stance. More "politically correct", if you will. But I absolutely reject the idea (even if I did stupidly use the former wording in a fit of frustration) that that would in any way make me a bigot like the people who actively advocate for restricting my rights and access to safe medical care, who want to spread the fear that I will harm and abuse children, people that want to put me in real danger by forcing me (who is, to any outside observer, an average guy) to use the women's bathroom when I go out in public. People who call for communities to band together and force me out of "their" neighborhoods with torches and pitchforks if necessary, who want to hide my existence from children like some sort of dirty secret, and see any self-advocacy or visibility on my part as a sign of our society's moral decline. People who have called me mentally ill, a sexual deviant, delusional, sick, immoral, sinful, dangerous, unnatural, and an offense to God by my mere existence. People who held such power over me throughout my life that I _believed them._ I felt a deep, visceral disgust for myself. I felt hideous, monstrous, unlovable, and tainted. Not just when the topic came up or someone said something especially cruel, but all day, every day, in the deepest parts of my fundamental beliefs about myself.
Anyone who tries to say that bigotry against cis people is an even remotely comparable phenomenon to what I have experienced doesn't know shit about what it means to be a group that society _actually_ treats unfairly or views as "other". Sure, when I see a trans person say something negative and too-broad about cis people, I call it out. And you know what happens? They change their language because they didn't actually mean that not going through gender transition is a flaw. They mean that being a cis person makes it less likely that someone will understand our plight or stand with us because of our cis-oriented culture's attitude, and the bigoted rhetoric of large groups of cis people.
JFC, what a shocker that the same people who complain about CRT and gender studies have no idea what they are actually about.
Honestly, I always found what I like to call the "moral obedience assessment" that White people put on Black people as really racist. Like you have people who are part of the privileged racial group who stand by or even sympathise with White bigots while condemning and being overly critical when Black people or other oppressed racial groups respond with justified hatred. Like what Dr. Phil did here is just very narcissistic, he thinks himself a teacher whose words should be the only thing held in high regard compared to the Black women because he thinks to know better about dealing with racism
Dr Phil's special skill is telling us he's going to help someone, then immediately telling us its not his job to help that person, and making it sound like he's being completely consistent
"Blackface skinhead Gary goes around the neighborhood yelling at random people," is not a sentence I ever expected to hear.
"Therapeutic" blackface and fat suits, etc. was a big TV trend back then.
Blackface skinhead Gary was my username on Xbox live
There's something really telling about Phil saying "This isn't his issue" when the "skinnyphobic" guy starts being racist. Like, Phil thinks that bigotry comes from some kind of history of trauma. That's the symmetry that he's trying to paint. But it just doesn't. The skinhead doesn't have a history of being hurt by black people; he has a history of being taught that it's okay to be racist. Phil sees that with the person who's supposed to be angry at skinny people but can't acknowledge it because it would destroy the whole show
that's not how racism works.
As a black person If I had a personal history of being hurt by white people that still wouldn't make it more okay for me to be hateful toward someone just because there white vs a white person mistreating someone because their black.
Both of these things are equally bad and the reason behind why someone hates an entire group of people while it may explain why they hold the beliefs they do still isn't a justifiable reason to mistreat people. I wouldn't go out of my way to mistreat someone's whose white because I understand that not all white people are racist and that people should be treated as individuals not as a monolithic hivemimd with the exact same life experiences & opinions.
"No, that's not your thing! You're supposed to hate skinny people, not black people!"
@@PeterGriffin11those are literally not the same thing. also, white.
To be clear, I agree that personal trauma isn't how racism works; I'm saying I think that's how Dr. Phil thinks it works and that's part of the problem here. That's the parallel he's trying to set up, and that's why it doesn't work
I grew up in a bigoted household and as a kid, I inherited the rhetoric and beliefs I grew up around. I remember when the ads for this show were circulating, I was afraid that watching it would indoctrinate me to be tolerant toward people of other races/sexualities/body types, which would put me at odds with my household. It's so weird to be reminded of that time and those systems of thought
You sound like you’d have valuable insight on the topic.
Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.
@BaxiBestBoi Thanks for informing people but this was a completely random comment to reply to. Your point is also pretty irrelevant to the video? Not that you shouldn’t bring it up, but it doesn’t actually discredit any of the arguments made in the video or in any comments I’ve seen. Discriminating against somebody for something specific isn’t okay just because the person they’re discriminating against also happened to be a horrible person in other ways. Nobody’s saying that Jon is a perfect guy who can do no wrong, I haven’t seen a single person say that, people are just saying it’s kind of messed up how his fatness was portrayed on this specific show, because this show is what we’re talking about right now, and the way people are portrayed on this show could have reinforced negative (and often unfair) beliefs about fat people. And in the case of the comment you’re responding to, literally nobody mentioned Jon or fatness in any way. I understand your concern, but I’ve seen this comment in the replies of several threads, and it was unnecessary in every case I saw it, so I just don’t really know what the purpose is. Maybe just make your own comment and leave it at that, rather than replying to completely random threads with the same unrelated thing? Joel did also acknowledge that Jon isn’t a good person and said bad things on the show. He just also didn’t like the aspect of the show that demonized Jon for things completely unrelated. You can think both.
I didn't see any discrimination in the comment you replied to so I guess you typed this all for no reason.@@dali-dog
@@ALotOfCancer oh no, I wasn't saying that the comments were discriminating in any way, sorry for the confusion. I was just pointing out that the purpose of the video and many comments *isn't* to defend everything that the people on the House of Hatred have ever done and say that they're perfect (or even good) people. Joel's video is mainly talking about how nonsensical and unfair the House of Hatred was, one aspect of that being how poorly Jon was treated and portrayed specifically for his fatness, and the comment I was replying to has been replying to multiple comment threads just letting people know that Jon isn't a good person (which Joel already pretty much acknowledged and said it was besides the point of the video, which it is, because the video is specifically about House of Hatred, not how good or bad of a person Jon is). Again, I totally understand why they want to let people know that Jon is a bad person, I'm just saying it seems a little random and doesn't actually debunk any of the points made in the video or comment section. And saying "your defense of these people goes out the window when you realize..." makes it seem like they're trying to debunk somebody, but nobody's defending anybody, so who are they talking to?
Random example: if a person who happened to be black did something bad, I obviously wouldn't defend them just because they're black. However if people take their bad action as an opportunity to be racist towards them and perpetuate racist ideas, I sure as hell am going to call that out because it's never appropriate. If somebody then came up to me and said "well actually you shouldn't be defending them because they're a bad person", they're being silly. I'm not defending their actions, people are free to criticize them or even hate them for their actions, I'm just saying that discriminating against them specifically based on their identity is wrong no matter who they are or what they've done. And that's why I think it's weird that this person I'm replying to keeps acting like people are trying to defend Jon as a person. They're not, they're saying fatphobia and ableism is bad, and fatphobia and ableism was in the show targeted towards Jon. I hope that makes sense. It's not a big deal or anything, just thought it was out of place. I think it would have been best if this commenter just made their own comment informing people, along the lines of "in case you aren't aware, Jon is a really bad person who's still on the internet and has done all these horrible things" rather than basically accusing random people of defending him, and in the process brushing away any nuanced discussion of the House of Hatred.
12:35 Fun fact! If he did shower and not dry himself off in all regions, he could get a fungal infection from the trapped moisture which can eventually lead to his skin rotting and septic shock likely leading to death in a man of his size. It's actually a big issue hence why showering at that size should be taken with great care.
That was not a fun fact at all
@@petermmm42I think that “Fun fact!” was an attempt as clever satire or being funny to catch the reader’s attention.
Imagine paying $200 to watch Dr Phil... you're a powerful man, Big Joel.
Imagine watching Dr Phil
One might even call him...big
To be fair it’s not going to Dr Phil.
@@HiBuddyyyyyynobody said it was lol
@@ItBeThatWaySometimes I never saw any dr Phil shows, I thought there was a live audience in one of them? I meant that they probably did paid to watch him anyway.
The real experiment was whether bigots and the marginalized can unite against Dr Phil as a common enemy
reminds me of another social experiment, how Santiago Genovés got 10 people stuck on a raft (the Acali Raft) for 101 days and tried to foment violence between them but they just ended up shunning him
@@benjaminrabbit659I heard about that and it's so cathartic. I'd love to see that happen to Dr Phil
@@benjaminrabbit659I loved wendigoon's explanation of the raft.
Maybe they did when they couldn't come up with any questions for Dr Phil in that segment, and that's why they deleted it haha. Regardless, it's absolutely insane how long this man has been free to make tv shows
@@benjaminrabbit659now thàt reminds me of a real life lord of the flies story where some young boys from Tonga stole a raft and got shipwrecked on an island for 15 months. They all took care of each other and raised chickens and stuff. I first read about it in 'Humankind: a hopeful history' by Rutger Bergman, hiiighly recommend that book :)
The moral equivalence between "I hate these people because they mistreat me constantly" and "I just don't like 'em", and putting the former in a position to be mistreated by the latter;
It's like the most centrist centrism that ever centristed.
You are totally clueless.
Hating the supremacist for their ideology is reasonable. Hating all people who are of the same skin color as a supremacist (and assuming they're also supremacists) is stupid and racist.
Dr. Phil is sexist. He considers a woman who yells to assert herself "manly" and "losing her dignity". Keeping that in mind, we haven't seen the actual show to see what event Dr. Phil is referring to. If she had done something (for instance) like put some dog doo in the white $upr€mac¡st guy's bunk, Dr. Phil would have a point.
@@baneverything5580What
What do you mean
@@volnartheunforgiving3952 Liberals use the term centrist as an insult. It means a coward or sellout who has abandoned the "right side of history" to see" both sides".
the way he solely empathizes with the literal skinhead is SO disgusting, my hatred for dr phil is so immense it hurts
Then why wasbhebso popular and so many people watched him? That's the real thing you should hate
@@robk7266lol what? "dont get mad at the people who allowed this to happen, get mad at the people that accidentally left the tv channel on after law and order!!" no...
@@davechongle what I'm saying is, the only reason it was made was because people enjoy watching it. So who exactly allowed this to happen?
@@robk7266 "dr" phil and co. created this.. yea, a lot of people like to watch schlock, but you cant really fix that can you? it would be much easier to fix the actual problem. also, people would watch him no matter what he did, so he easily couldve done something better. what im saying is you are wrong, phil is the person we should be mad at, if we are to be mad at all.
@@robk7266how about i hate dr phil and i dislike the people watching him?
Why must our hate be directed only at one party instead of all of them?
The irony of the show asking these people to see each other as full human beings when the people who made the show only see them as caricatures.
underrated comment
Perfectly put
Phil is a sadist.
Glad to learn that he’s retiring.
"retiring". Don't worry, He'll find a way to get into a position to do even more damage.
Humans are multifaceted , just because they hate a certain group doesn't mean they're gonna spew it outta their mouth all day
That Turnabout Ranch, to which he sent troubled teens to sort them out, is bad news to more teens.
Y'all see he announced a new network and show today....
He's in really bad shape, physically. I've seen him and robin walking through the paramount back lot between stages. He looks like he's going to kneel over any minute. And robin looks like a stick figure bobblehead
Phil should have been on the show, across from an actual doctor
LMAO i would unironically love to see a show like that
Best comment. After watching the video I was actually kind of bummed out, so thanks for the laugh.
Totally agree!!
This should just be a show in general, ‘Phil and the Real Doctor’ a play by play dunking and debunking of Phil’s bullshit.
If you just replace Dr. Phil with Steve Carell, this show would have made a great three-episode arc of The Office
Omg
Holy shit...
"We put 3 people who don't enjoy being oppressed and 3 people who love oppressing people in the same house and pretend that those are the same thing for 3 days"
Don't forget that one of the oppressors also has a history of actual violent crime. Like, Bea is in actual physical danger.
They shouldn't bunk a female in the same room as a male or lesbian.
There's a good chance this guy got locked up for whatever and had to join a prison gang (which are divided by race).
@@marthademovimaus5140 Most normal conservative
@@nothingineternityterms Are you that liberal that you don't care about your personal privacy? Or do you believe that people paid to be on these shows have sold away their privacy?
@@marthademovimaus5140 Or did they notice that you "subtly" tried to slip in homophobia next to a normal take as if no one would notice?
Calls it "a social experiment," directly intervenes within the first two minutes. Seems we have very different definitions of 'experiment' (and 'doctor')
I cannot stress enough how dystopian the first 5 years after 9/11 were in America. This show is totally on brand for that era.
I'm 23. I have memories of being threatened of Dr. Phil being used as a "call" whenever I was being a well... annoying 6 year old...
Sure, my parents convinced me a TV remote was an actual phone... Oh wait that's kinda even more dystopian. I resent... a lot of that.
right after 9/11, I was called a "terrorist" in school for being in the Young Democrats. Like, I'm not kidding. I would be walking down the hallways and people would scream it at me.
@@XXMatt0040XXthreatening to call Dr Phil when you were SIX years old is so fucked up! I mean, it would be at any age, but especially that young. While you’re just behaving and reacting to your environment as any six year old would. My son is six and half now and I couldn’t imagine “disciplining” him like that. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that. Hopefully you’re in a better place now.
It was not a very inquiring time. If you were straight and shy, your sexual orientation was brought into question.
America has been dystopian since the cold war. 9/11 was when the true colors showed.
This reminds me of some joke I wish I could credit about moral conflicts in video games.
Like, "Our game has really difficult moral dilemmas. One of the factions you can side with is openly fascist, racist, and oppressive; but the opposing faction - and here's the tricky part - can sometimes be a little rude."
Morality choices in video games:
1) Do the obvious right thing
2) Do the objectively evil
3) Do the obvious right thing but be a little snarky about it
how people talk about fallout new vegas
"People sided with the opposing faction that is rude. What does this say about GAMERS?"
@@tuesdaysellers1545 this is basically fallout 3 💀
It's even better if the "objective right side" actually DOES do some pretty fucked up things but the narrative completely ignores it to focus on something irrelevant instead.
@@emi_is_absentyou think the legion is bad just because they're a militaristic hyper-patriarchal fascist dictatorship? Well umm... Here's a NCR soldier depicted as a soyjak. Truly riveting discourse
This feels like an animated series meant to mock Dr. Phil.
Like it's supposed to be an open letter to Phil to simply screw off.
Totally like a South Park episode or SNL skit about him.
It genuinely feels like two poop jokes away from being a South Park episode
An old SNL Saturday TV Funhouse
I could honestly see a SpongeBob episode that’s a toned down version of this, where Squilliam is responsible for the events.
@@Zulf85Cartman is there.
"saying 'you should know better' to a skinhead" is just american politics in a nutshell
Reality TV in the early 2000’s really do be doing some of the most insane shit “As a social experiment”
It was truly a different time
You're not wrong. I'm still haunted by 'There's Something About Miriam'. RIP.
Japan was off the chain with it in that era
They came up with Fear Factor
They had a show where people had to compete to keep their job during the 2008 recession and another where kids ran their own town and accidentally drank bleach
it's crazy how cruel Dr Phil is immediately, just bails on the entire concept and goes to chastise the people in the house.
He really is psychotic
Makes me sad this is probably the first people have heard of this. I think it'd make Dr Phil's incompetence and hatred even more publicly known
Phil here is an amateur compared to his Turnaround Ranch.
Honestly, this show is like watching someone set up the next Stanford Prison Experiement, but then repeatedly stirring the pot when the people don't do the violence
So like the Stanford Prison Experiment then?
@@mindacarpenter2996the SPE set out to show how people will abuse positions of power. It did, but it turned out to be the experimenter more than the participants
That's literally what happened in the Stanford prison experiment
@@meowntown69 Yeah, doesn’t that kinda poison the data of the experiment? If so, then those boys suffered for nothing.
Dr Oz, Phil, and others came to my city, went to a homeless encampment and said “I am now entering the gates of hell” and exploited the homeless addicts for ratings and DGAF about helping.
They razed the encampment but did nothing to solve shit. So they just moved the problems out onto the streets instead of getting them help.
Phil just seems like a kid putting snails in a box to make them race eachother but panicking when they start eating eachother. Like whenever he drives to them and goes into the room it's like a little kid picking up the snails and trying to put them back in line so that they race
"When I brought this skinhead into my house, I never imagined for a moment that he could have a negative impact on other people's behavior" I love the new sentences Joel creates
Interesting fact about Dr. Phil. He had the game Operation when he was 8 years old. He was able to remove all the pieces without setting off the buzzer so from then on he believed he was a "doctor." Turns out he didn't know the game didn't have any batteries in it.
Says he's doing it to break down social barriers between people. Gets pissed off when people start doing social bonding stuff.
Says it's a social experiment. Gets pissed off when the experiment isn't immediately producing the results he wants.
Guess it was actually all about the fireworks after all.
The “experiment” was ruined 10 minutes in because Phil interrupted their decision making and more or less joined the group. As the facilitator he should not be involved. He clearly didn’t pay attention to undergrad psych
I'm honestly pretty sure if he just let things go as normal then it would have just turned into "The Sex Raft" experiment, where a group of strangers were put on a boat with women in positions of authority to prove something about sexism and degeneracy or something. But, turns out, if you put people in a room together then they eventually just start to understand eachother's feelings and bond as a group? So instead of it being this big mess like the guy behind it wanted, it just turned into people hanging out and becoming friends over this weird shared experience.
People in the House of Hate are literally trying to talk things out, like they're working through their issues and challenging their preconceptions already. The racist guy probably won't stop being racist, but it seems like he could tell he's not going to get anywhere and he'd have to reflect on what he was actually accomplishing. If shouting at the black woman doesn't do anything and just makes him angry, then he'd have to reconsile with that and learn to live with her. And that's a completely valid result, these might be the first steps towards slowly deradicalizing someone and showing them that exceptions exist that challenge their existing biases.
But then here comes Dr. Phil, looking to stir the pot so he can get more drama for his show, and he's here to do this weird 'hate' exercise just to keep tensions high. Because it's always about him. It's only 'good therapy' if HE is the one solving the problem, so he manufactures situations where he can keep things going until the end of the 'experiment'. It's extremely telling that this is just how he feels like he HAS to do things even though there's a perfectly fine and honestly kind-of interesting premise already right there if they just wanted to let it play out and honestly follow the results.
This man has never cared about helping people. He's only concerned with making himself out to be the hero, no matter how much he has to play the villain to get to that point.
Dr. Phil is the kind of dude to put an autistic person in a sensory overload situation and then ask them to act “Neurotypical”
@@MadScientist267what is a derp term?
@@chelseakitkatz "Normal" is sufficient here 🙄
@@chelseakitkatzHe's saying that they think neurotypical can be replaced with the word normal. Though, an autistic person acting normal would still mean they are acting autistic.
Derp usually goes hand in hand with calling somebody a re***d, or implying it. Derp terms is likely something he made up to describe words he is to derpy to understand.
@@MadScientist267being normal isn't real
@@Swanny2294 What kinda special stupid is all that? Lol 🤦♂️
Seriously, MANY BLESSINGS on whoever created and maintains that Wayback Machine.
They could definitely use donations.
There are people trying to shut them down.
Yeah, that reminds me that I need to give them some more money, they're doing the lord's work preserving rare treasures. Also pure trash garbage like this
How many blessings specifically? 50 perhaps?
Also its the Internet Archive runs the wayback machine, which is a phenomenal resource in general.
@@iamthekingof1omillionsunsets 50,327 blessings
@@bazzfromthebackground3696there are (((people))) trying to shut them down, ftfy
Who would’ve thought being bitter about discrimination isn’t the same as contributing to discrimination!
She was contributing to discrimination
@@sucrazy-m4sok bigot.
@@sucrazy-m4s In what way was she "contributing to discrimination"? "I have prejudices against white people because of past and present racist practices" is clearly not the same thing as "I have prejudices against black people because I see myself as a superior race that has gloriously oppressed black people for hundreds of years and regard desegregation as a tragedy" or whatever.
rarely Dr Phil will say something, well, if not profound, then at least useful, like "if they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you". far more often he'll say something like "if three people call you a horse you should buy yourself a saddle" (i used to watch a lot of Dr Phil)
Well, the horse things might explain him.
"If you dupe three thousand people into calling you a doctor, buy yourself fame with the souls of others."
jesus christ i can't stop laughing at the saddle wtf 😂😂😂😂😂😂 this has now been added to my daily vocabulary
That horse proverb is genius and I will use it more often than I probably should. Maybe I misjudged the Philsdr.
His "for every one rat you see, there's ten you don't" has followed me through life.
Dr Phil should have made the lesbian and the homophobe have gay sex during the blackface bit. What better way to see what it’s like to be gay than to have gay sex?
And the gay woman would get the very heterosexual experience of having sex with a straight woman, just like straight men do. Everybody learns a lesson.
Get this man a crestive director position now.
@@cactus2260 Don't put this on the toothpaste industry, they have it hard already.
Wildest comment ever made
Dr. Phil accidentally gave us a really great example of how when you have a Nazi and a guy that tolerates Nazis, you actually just have two Nazis, and you shouldn’t let them hang out lest they radicalize others around them.
Maybe he was totally just playing 4D chess and planned this the whole time (spoiler: he wasn’t)
Edit: For those of y’all that didn’t catch it, the 4D chess comment is sarcasm (hence saying he “accidentally” did it and the “spoiler” bit at the end). I don’t need it explained to me that Dr. Phil is a racist and an idiot-I got that figured out. Some of y’all are so quick to assume someone is dumb and talk down to them that you miss important details and context, etc. Imagine how much you’re missing IRL when you don’t finish processing what someone says before you jump in to start treating them like they’re stupid. Imagine how that’s affecting your social life and what others think of you.
He told the nazi they "should know better" then to radicalize other people. It's crazy that he really thought that.
By that logic if I'm right leaning but I tolerate left leaning people then I'm left leaning.
@@NoNoDontTouchMeThereIt shouldn’t really have ro be pointed out why you’re wrong - nazis want to segregate humanity according to inherent characteristics and ultimately rid society entirely of those they consider inferior. Accepting this means not standing in the way when people are deported, incarcerated and even murdered due to their inherenr characteristics, effectively making the outcomes of your position identical to those of the nazi’s.
A leftist is a much more vague term where if we’re talking about socialism or communism it’s just alternative modes of production, but assuming we’re talking about attitudes to minorities and ethnicities, leftists wants injustices based on ethnicity, sexuality, gender, gender and a plethora of other inherent characteristics to be eliminated. Accepting leftists, in this context means not standing in the way of eliminating such injustices, or in other words, not actively working to maintain essentialized injustices as others attempt to eliminate them. This means that accepting leftism doesn’t contribute positively to the leftist cause, but not accepting it certainly actively contributes to maintaining said injustices to not accept it.
@@bewing77 here's the part where you missed my point; this take lacks nuance and is board. Tolerating means to withstand, not sharing ideals. OP's comment relates to anything being the same based on tolerating alone and that's what's wrong. What you brought up was completely pointless.
Edit: spelling corrections
@@NoNoDontTouchMeThere if you thought about this comparison for like two seconds it wouldnt be hard to realize that those two things arent comparable and it means nothing. your statement means nothing. there is no societal and humanitarian harm to having leftist ideals, unlike literal fucking nazis and bigots.
8:18 The fact that "Skinhead Gary" rhymes so effortlessly with "Pinhead Larry" was something I was not prepared for.
"Who're you cslling skinhead?"
Patrick: Who you calling Skinhead? 😂
Phil’s personal, unfettered hatred for John makes this such a top tier unintended comedy.
You could not make a better satire.
If Alan Partridge hosted a reality TV show on racism this is exactly how it would go.
really funny to see dr phil present himself as the arbiter of what bigotry is and how to stop it when he is so obviously incredibly bigoted himself
He wanted to find people more racist than he was but despite his best efforts absolutely failed.
@@MauseDaysHave you just been copy-pasting this everywhere?
@@MauseDays Not defending anyone, the bigots on this show are definitely racist and homophobic and disgusting. Simply saying it's odd for Dr. Phil to present himself as this virtuous guy who knows how to get rid of bigotry when it's so obvious that he pretty obviously shares some similar bigoted beliefs and more broadly seems to have absolutely no idea what makes bigotry bigotry in the first place.
he has collected all the bigotries. that is why he is the Arbiter of Bigotry
So let me get this straight: Hating nazis is bigotry now? Man I've ran around my entire life thinking that hating nazis wasn't only normal but also civic duty.
liberals are the nazis. Hitler was a follower of Marx. Commies are far evilier but took over colleges hence got washed
Correct. Nazis are bad.
if hating nazis is bigotry then i'm proud to be bigoted ❤❤❤
@@spockezriOh, I’m an incredible bigot then, too.
I thought she “hated white” people and not Nazis per se?
5:45 "so that includes me I guess, you got a problem because I'm white?"
no, it's because you're Dr. Phil ❤
Dr. Phil really just wanted to watch a racist say the N word at a Black person. Like he really, REALLY, wanted it. And he kept egging them on to do it. All so that when they finally just did it, Dr. Phil could just walk in like "Oh come on, Gary... ohh Gary.... why would'ja do somethin' that meaaannnnn?????"
Like it's genuinely funny how little there is to disguise that this is just an objective attempt for Dr. Phil to see shitty people say shitty things just so he can walk out and condescendingly preach at them about how being a bigot is bad. He's not going to challenge any beliefs or preconceptions they have or try to understand where those beliefs come from, he just wants to shake his head in disappointment at the people doing the thing he straight-up coerced them into doing, lol!
It probably stems from some childhood trauma that has led him to seek out/create opportunities to look down on people in order for him to feel superior. Given his tendency towards religious language and moralizing, my guess is it is from his childhood religious environment/church.
Hey look, I did a Dr. Phil on Dr. Phil (ie BS armchair pop-psycoanalysis). Does that mean I get to take over his media empire now?
I'll never forgive Dr. Phil for the impact he had on my mom. Granted my mom was extremely neglectful from the start, but he did play a role in what little attention she did pay to my health. I tried over and over to tell my mom I wasn't "right" that my mental health was in tatters. She would tell me that "Well I watched Dr. Phil and you don't put 8 pieces of toilet paper down and walk around it 20 times before going to the bathroom (as one guest DID something similar to highlight their OCD) so you're fine."
About 15 years later and I am on my way to finally obtaining a degree that works with my disability, have a proper diagnosis of being on the spectrum (but just barely - think like the lightest color of yellow if it was a rainbow), and other mental health diagnoses. Now have medication and therapy as well. It put me into a never-ending cycle of medical debt and ruined my credit, but I am finally on a path to beginning to feel like myself again. But here is the key thing:
I am one of the extremely lucky ones of those who have had their lives impacted by "Dr." Phil. Those who have had to go to his camps, be on his shows, or be manipulated in some way or form for his ego are the people who have suffered the greatest. There are hundreds of thousands of countless untold stories of people who had their lives ruined by him. And he will never be held accountable. All the bad press in the world could come out against him and would bounce off.
He has done such a disservice for mental health that it will be decades, if ever until we find out the impact of his damage. The negative stigma he put on mental health during the early 2000s was so impactful.
He deserves to be held accountable and never will be.
Your mom neglected your health because she watched a TV show. I guess it's easier for you to misplace the blame then face reality.
God you have no idea how hard I relate to this. I had a similar experience with my mother (who also suffers from several undiagnosed/diagnosed mental health problems) and it left me with some very damaging responses to my own mental health struggles. It also was so detrimental to her political views in a lot of cases even though it was more subtle. But yeah I feel for you a lot. So irresponsible of him and his team to put stuff like this out as a handbook for uninformed parents.
@@nikkimcdonald4562Nowhere in there did the OP misplace blame. Be less of an asshole.
@@nikkimcdonald4562 You being a d*ck is completely unnecessary. Obviously her mother is responsible, but Dr Phil's show had a *huge* cultural impact for over two decades! Dozens of former guests on the show have talked about how they were manipulated, humiliated, and never actually given *any* help. He presents himself as a mental health professional, but he's a con artist who only cares about fame and money. How about holding him responsible for the shit he's done?!
@@nikkimcdonald4562 No, I face reality. I know she was a horrible, neglectful mother. But I do have to admit that even if she used Dr. Phil as a scapegoat, he did play a role. But again, my point was that I am one of the lucky ones that was impacted by him. A very lucky one. The real tragedy are the ones that had actual interactions with him - went to the camps, on his show, etc.
I've never seen bigotry so intersectional before.
Underrated comment🤣
Welcome to America 🇺🇸
third wave misanthropy
😂😂
Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.
While bad at everything intended, I will say that this show and video is a fantastic way to explain to a person what the difference between prejudice and retaliatory hatred is, something that can actually be kind of hard to explain to people who haven't been on the receiving end of it.
Bea treats Gary with complete respect and even by the end of the show seems to have developed a friendship of sorts with him. She doesn't have the belief ingrained in her that white people are less than her, she's had the misfortune of likely growing up in a place where racism is rampant and people with white skin have treated her poorly.
Gary on the other hand can calmly drop N bombs and call them lesser just by merit of being black. He's not reacting to anything a black person actually did to him, he's not on the receiving end of any kind of hatred or hostility, his beliefs aren't formed by personal experiences, it's the culture around him that told him that these people are subhuman and he has to be taught otherwise to start respecting them as people.
Dr Phil feel like un-reality tv, like it feels real but everything feels tampered with
so... reality tv?
surreality tv
Dr Phil would have run the Stanford Prison Experiment, without a doubt. Giving an instruction, getting a mild and calm response from participants, getting mad about it from behind the scenes and then going in to shake things up? That’s the exact thing Zimbardo did.
"That's not his issue," is a perfect encapsulation of the attitude of the show. Willful or not, there's a complete ignorance about how people aren't one thing. The shock at the racist guy spreading his racism to other people who weren't cast as the racist guy displays a complete irresponsibility and lack of research into the nature of bigotry on the showrunner.
"How can be racist when already fat? Me doctor in psychology but me not understand."
-"Dr." Phil, apparently.
16:29 "Are you that shallow?"
This coming from Phil is a complete joke. What a muppet.
Phil‘s life revolves around him searching for people he suspects to be even weirder and less reasonable than him so he can go „NANI? That‘s crazy!“.
And then all the boomers clapped
the idea of the word “NANI?!” leaving Phil’s mouth is one of the more hilarious out there
I watched this at the time. I was a middle schooler, and this was my understanding of bigotry. The important thing to remember though is that this was THE mainstream understanding of bigotry. I'm glad that there's more of an understanding of systems of oppression now rather than just individual bigotry.
Racism is when people hang black people and yell at them. If that specifically is not happening to me or by me, anything that happens is not racism. (Insert hateful ideology)
I wouldn't call it an understanding - that's giving far too much credit to the attitudes of the time. People understood bigotry, but this was also the era of political incorrectness to the extreme. It was so weirdly encouraged by EVERYONE, and it was really just a big ol' north american excuse to let these things go with a slap on the wrist.
Same here.
@@liam3284 Reactionary anti-politeness is such an apt description of that era's sensibility.
@@liam3284Is ongoing
This is just Dr. Phil repeatedly pulling a surprised Pikachu face over the horrible people he invited onto his show being horrible.
That's his schtick in general. That and being a bully and asshole.
"Why are you getting other people to be racist, Skinhead Gary?" Is one of the funniest lines I've heard in a hot minute
"If John's circumstances were entirely different than what they are and he demanded consideration for the circumstances he's in right now but we're imagining he'd no longer be in, you'd think he was dishonest and lazy, wouldn't you?"
- A genuine Dr Phil insight
I love how Phil's reaction to John's racism was "It's not even his issue". As if it's impossible for a white person to be racist just because they're fat?!
"He's supposed to hate skinny people, how could he be racist?"
To me it's very revealing about how Dr. Phil views people, and how little he understands his own profession. He seems to think that scolding people is how you change them, even though it's more likely to make them defensive; and doesn't understand that bringing people who explicitly hate each other based on immutable characteristics are more likely validate each other's bigotry through nasty behavior.
tbf how you gonna be a fat racist, like pick a struggle john 😂
Just like a world reknowned psychiatrist would... Dr Phil starts his journey with these people he allegedly wants to heal by... lying to them and being disrespectful for literally no reason.
It should be noted ‘Dr.’ Phil isn't a licensed psychiatrists.....
@@ookamiblade6318 He isn't licensed because he has no need to renew his license. Phil KNOWS how to be a decent psychiatrist, but chooses not to because his show creates an incentive structure that rewards ignorance and casual cruelty.
@@RadicalShiba1917 casual? I know what you're trying to say, but at the end of the day "casual" it ain't.
@@RadicalShiba1917 Right. He's not licensed but he earned a doctorate. He chooses to be trash outright.
@@RadicalShiba1917 Well said.
The fact that it NEVER comes up “Dr.”Phils 1st wife divorced him because he was cruel & horribly controlling has ALWAYS bothered me. (Apparently he saw that as a failure… NOT on HIS part… but the fact she left him) it was embarrassing for him.
I think that’s why he makes it a point to hold Robin up on a pedal stool… it’s not about how he feels about her… it’s the image he wants to portray..
His history is CRAZY. It’s obvious he’s someone who has a NEED for power. Whether he’s bullying addicts, someone in a manic episode, or telling a woman whose dealing w/racism to ‘buck up’, he revels in not only making them feel helpless… but the validation as well as it being witnessed by the whole audience (on set.. as well as the 1’s watching at home)
I’ve gone to rehab w/addicts on his show… they were specifically told to they would be medicated upon arrival… only to be told once they got their “u need to go to skid row to ‘get well’
And THEN, they would bring it up on the show EXCEPT they would twist it to make it seem they just “ran off” to go get high…
Mind u… they also did this to a PREGNANT HEROIN ADDICT who flew out there w/her mother.
They were desperate for help, couldn’t afford rehab for her…
& then when Dr. Phil brought them on stage, he berated HER AND THE MOM for letting her USE on ‘HIS WATCH’
The mom just “went with it” & let them throw her under the bus cause she really thought that was the only way they’d get her help.
She & her daughter came out later when they ended up having to find her treatment elsewhere (I believe)
He's pure evil. Stuff like Springer was exploitative but it wasn't supposed to be therapy and I'm pretty sure most of the people involved knew what they were in for. Dr Phil always presented what he did as for the good of the patient while he was abusing some of the most vulnerable people alive.
@@sleepybird1 ,
What stuck with me was him calling a 10 year old kid a "serial killer in the making"... He didn't have a license to practice psychiatry in California at that time and was making "clinical determinations" on his show. Since it's called "Dr. Phil"... people took it seriously.
jfc that’s horrific they should’ve sued they put her and her fetus’ health in danger
There is something absolutely insane about taking someone who is 700 pounds, setting them up for failure, and then tuning to someone and going “yeah doesn’t this confirm all your biases? Are you ashamed that you were proved right?” Like what was he even trying to accomplish
Oh, please. Dude was perfectly capable, he was just lazy.
@@wmdkittyremarkable how a living person like you can have an intelligence level akin to a dung beetle! fascinating
@@wmdkittyyeah, I'm sure it's just cuz he's lazy and has absolutely nothing to do with him being 700 pounds. I'm sure you'll also argue that he simply lazied his way up to 700 pounds despite how absurd that would be to actually believe.
The more I know about Dr. Phil, the more I believe he either never even passed his bachelor in psychology, or he decided to take everything he learned and use it to abuse people.
Everything he does and says goes against even basic common sense in psychology.
Or even just common sense facts like ‘people can (and almost always do) have more than just one bigotry’
Yes, I only have a bachelor's in psychology and the way Phil conducts himself is so obviously contrary to what the field is supposed to be about
if i recall correctly he actually did lose his license to practice psychology in 2006 because he wanted to pursue his television career. he is literally just a fraud💀
Depends what you get taught in your bachelors. Plenty of psychology was used to support bigotry. And depending when he did his BA there were probably not any modules on this kind of thing. Many students won't engage with what they learned much deeper than surface level required for essays. Psychology especially historically has attracted loads of cruel people, so I'm kind of tired of the assumption that studying psychology attracts empathetic people or makes people more empathetic- it can do, but it does not inherently do that.
Fun fact. Dr. Phil had his license to practice psychology revoked in Texas in 1993 after a former patient accused him of sexual assault.
He calls it a "Social Experiment," but there's no control group to base the findings off
I would love to hear his hypothesis for this one, lmao. The Methods section of that paper would certainly be something to see.
As a trans, gay, fat guy, I dont really think minorities and marginalized communities can change the minds of their oppressors. They are already conditioned to not listen to you, to not believe you, and to view you as lesser than them. Change for the most part starts with the people that are close to them. Someone's family and friends criticizing them leaves a bigger impression because their opinions matter to them.
“Oppressors” 😂 . Also, so fit people are oppressing fat people? Lol
@@iihh517 I won't argue with you 😊
@@iihh517you’re low iq so I’m gonna regret even engaging with you, but yes, as one can imagine a group that despises and greatly outnumbers another would typically lead to some kind of oppressive mechanic in a society.
@@karmasick I’m not here to argue with you either. Just letting you know that no one outside of your echo chamber will agree with your premise.
fully. that's real.
This reminds me of the Acali Expedition, in 1973 there was a social experiment performed on a boat with 5 men and 6 women, and the one running the experiment, Santiago Genoves, studying the sociology of violence, aggression and sexual attraction in human behavior when stuck in social isolation and with limited space
They spent more than 100 days out in the Caribbean sea with no engines and the subjects just did their tasks, got along with each other and even made a strong bond that persisted long after the experiment, while Santiago got progressively more and more frustrated that they weren't tearing each other to shreds, afterwards the only person the subjects described disliking was Genoves himself and confessing they had at some point considered a mutiny to kill him and dispose of him at sea
Dr.Phil is straight up just being a dick because he made this whole show under the expectation of seeing people fight, and when they act calm and civilized he gets all angry and tries to stir shit up himself
Does he think bigots just run rampages every time they see the group they hate? This is a very diverse country, they are forced to interact with their hated group every day
Even better: the scientist specifically thought that the men on the raft would fight over the women, and he put a woman in charge of the ship to see if it would piss the men off further. But he completely ignored her advice and overrode her when she was trying to keep the raft safe in a hurricane, which ACTUALLY annoyed all the subjects bc they trusted her judgement lmao
@@error-try-again-later fight over them for what? Are they gonna fuck right in front of every one in an emergency situation?
The new show they based off that experiment pissed me off, I had to stop watching it because they totally lost the plot of what they were supposed to be doing. They started introducing voting people off when you're supposed to be working with the people you were originally put with.
Don't blame the people who made it. Blame the people who watched it. People watching it are who keep this on the air
25:28 prediction: Stacy and John go wakeboarding together, but John is too heavy and capsizes the boat. As Stacy is drowning, John grabs her and rolls to a supine position in the water, allowing her to sit on his belly, completely out of the water. After the cut, Doctor Phil explains that this is a rescue that only truly fat people can do. Stacy recants her former bigotry and sincerely apologizes to John, who warmly accepts her apology.
I was really hoping that last part would be “, who eats her”
@@quantumblurrr I could try to write some John and Stacy vore, but you would probably find it revolting. 🤮
@@quantumblurrr the original comment had me trying not to laugh and this tipped me over the edge 💀💀💀
Marginalized people: I hate how people in power treat me!
Bigot: I hate people who aren't me.
Incredible observation phil
i think dr phil just needed some people to clean his house
love how the intro videos begin with the subjects aggressively charging toward the camera like they're about to start their verse in a horrorcore collab track
Dr. Phil brought a Cum Town era Nick Mullen bit to life before the idea of being a loser with a podcast even existed in the mainstream. A true innovator.
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Bru I was just listening to cumtown before this vid thats crazy
Also im gay
Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.
@@MauseDayslast stuff is bad, but the attempt the show did failed. like no wonder he’s still racist and fat if that’s how the show tried to curb it
Black woman being forced to share a room with a huge, violent skinhead: Do they seriously expect for me to a share a room with that guy?
Dr. Phil and his editing team: Jeeze, are you hearing this? What an unrepentant bigot! They really are just two sides of the same coin!
I watched this on TH-cam over a decade ago, and one of the parts of the show you never got was at the end where they all have to say a secret. Stacey and John are bi, Christine had an abortion, etc. What I remember the most is that Tess said she had also had an abortion, and dr Phil was immediately like “SEE! You’re a HYPROCRITE! You ARE a breeder.” It was a wild time and tbh I’m just glad no one was seriously hurt.
...called her a breeder when she literally got rid of the fetus...
i… i don’t know where i expected this comment to go, but it wasn’t there!
@@soldiaz7261 tbh that’s exactly how I felt watching it.
It says a lot about Dr. Phil that he assumed a guy with a swastika tattoo was a sensible, reasonable person.
The swastikka is an Indian religious symbol.
@@rnw2739something tells me that a white supremacist wouldn't have it tattooed for that reason...
Are we sure he was locked up FOR a hate crime? Prison gangs (that do those tattoos) are divided by race and the prisoners join them for survival.
@@rnw2739 Used in native American art, too. Used to be called the "rolling log" but they stopped using it after WWII.
He probably got those in prison. Prison gangs are divided along racial lines.
@@marthademovimaus5140 His dad is a skinhead and passed his racism to his son. He says this in the video. Why are you making up a fake excuse for the white supremacist?
If I were to guess, I would imagine what Dr Phil was going for was a kind of proximity effect - being around someone for extended periods of time usually makes it easier to understand and humanize them. BUT you could do that just by having these characters hang out. And the absolute best way to do that, would be to LET THEM TALK. So him interrupting their small-talk and saying how he hates "cocktail parties" makes no sense whatsoever, if the goal is anything like that. Failing that, I don't understand why he did this.
Ratings/money
the point is to generate entertaining conflict. same as his show where he brings in the most troubled mentally unstable guests and exploits them, trying to get their bad behavior on tv for entertainment. "resolving bigotry" is just his justification for it lol
I think it's odd that Dr. Phil is a clinical psychiatrist and yet he saw no ethical issues when planning all of this out.
You actually believe that?? Dr Phil's professional career is an entertainer!
yeah but didnt he get his medical license revoked or smth? so now (legally) hes not a clinical psychiatrist anymore
@@memechild2025Before Mr. Phil's TV show, it was suspended for a bit pending an investigation, but afterwards he was cleared and it was reinstated. After his TV show, he saw no reason to renew it, and so he let it expire. He hasn't been a licensed psychiatrist since '06, I believe.
Actual clinicians that are great at their profession n care will constantly keep up with the newest information in their field with classes n seminars. Phil is indeed a greedy uncaring "reality star"
He's always been a transparently bad person.
"Social experiment" usually means starting drama or putting people in hostile situations while the instigator sits back and munches on some popcorn. Couldn't be more pronounced here. Phil has the luxury of getting away with it because he's a man on TV and his show has "Dr." in the name, so he knows what he's doing
Or literally just abusing/bullying the test subjects until you get the result you wanted in the first place. A lot of social experiments are designed to confirm a pre-existing bias.