I buy Helix LT last week ago because this video , I up to show in high school party and i love it so much , It has everything I need to play guitar and it's worth the price.
Personally and after owning several models from each the three kings…Kemper Stage/Toaster/Rack, Fractal AX8/FM3 and L6 HD500/Helix I’ve found exactly what I was looking for from these type of devices with the Quad Cortex “capture” feature. QC captures are so authentic. I use a Dunlop mini volume/expression pedal to allow assigning dual-functionality; going between volume and expression assignments per preset via one tap on a QC footswitch. I had a huge pedalboard (21 total) built around three Kingsley tube preamps and an array of top-shelf pedals e.g. Strymon, Eventide, Analogman, Klon etc… After capturing the Kingsley preamps I’ve been able to use the QC exclusively. There really are no wrong answers between the modelers, it’s just a matter of personnel preference;)
We did a huge QC/Kemper/Amp shoot out on our other channel (th-cam.com/video/evYBrwSfTAU/w-d-xo.html), and QC definitely was more accurate to the real amp to us. The more we use QC, the more impressed we are with it.
@@worshiptutorials Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp in the head/rack. "Pedal captures" do not capture how pedals really interact with a given paired amp.
Thanks for such an in-depth video. All your points are valid...from experience! I was a strict boutique tube amp guy with pedalboard. I tried the Fractal FM3 and could not believe how good it sounded and felt. But, the CPU limitations were a problem. I decided to try a Helix and sent it right back. The tone was not the same as the Fractal and even though it's a true "all-in-one", I didn't like the feel of the expression pedal and I was stuck with it. So back to FM3 I went. Meanwhile, I put my name on the list for an FM9. A year later, I'm still waiting. So I bit the bullet and bought a AXE-FX III and FC12. Love it! I'm still very interested in the FM9 when ever I get the invite to buy one. It will be nice to lose carrying around the 3-space rack my AXE-FX is in. I recently heard a demo of a Helix vs. FM9 playing a U2 song. The Helix was thin with some fizz on in. The fractal had a nice organic fat Vox tone with out the extra fizz.
I have the RP-1 c1993 but its menus not working right anymore, I like the idea of taking captures of every piece of gear I encounter, however I do not have any desire to be dealing with a "RACK" anything. With the concensus that nothing sounds as good as fractal I feel like I have to choose between captures or better sounding effects. Fm9 vs QC seems like a tough choice to me.
@@20weststudio I'm hovering, i just can't imagine myself kicked back in this chair juggling my 8 stringer and an FM9 as easily, and I really prefer to have my footrest up.
With the latest 3.5 firmware for the heliX... The capability to run duel ir, While selecting 12 different mics and adjusting their position, distance, and axis, is unbelievably game-changing for the final guitar tones you can achieve!!
THIS VIDEO IS SOOOOOO GOOD!!!!! So many times, Ive wondered about which way to go when the time does come for me to purchase one. I almost always lean towards the Helix but, Axe FX and Kemper and QC are also all very appealing for multiple reasons. About a year ago, I was conversing with a friend specifically about the Helix & the Kemper.......aged old question......Which is "better"? His response was, "I can do a world tour with either one". I think that idea goes across the board for the modelers mentioned here. Thanks Brian & Bradford! You guys ROCK!!!!!!
The Headrush Gang must unite and face these forces of evil!! In all seriousness though, the MX5 fills a gap in the market. It's a small form factor of the bigger unit without compromising on power, which is not something any other brands can say from what I've seen. Seriously powerful unit, and I'm using one for worship. You guys should definitely check it out.
@@samulaq I believe New Vintage Audio has presets for the Pedalboard and Gigboard, you can add those to the MX5 and just set the footswitches accordingly. I'm not aware of other sites/platforms that sell Headrush presets, cos I personally like to fiddle and experiment. Hopefully some other users can recommend other sources 👌🏽
Helix for me! I just got my second one after trying a pedalboard with a stomp. I loved the stomp + pedalboard but the cost of trying to get the same pedals/tones out of something the same size or smaller than the Helix is pretty much impossible!
Skip it and get a Yamaha THR30ii, you can make a ton of tones and utilize a pedal to switch between your tones. It’s so much easier. We use my THR30ii and plug it into the house for our praise team.
Hello, everyone, I've been following your channel for quite a while. From time to time I have to look at something twice because the English is sometimes too fast. It's one of the best videos I've seen on the subject. This is exactly the dilemma I stand in. I have to preface that I am an absolute hobby and should practice more. But the technique is also fun ;) I currently have an FM3 and a Helix Floor to try. Both cannot and should not stay because it is too expensive. I had promised a lot from the FM3 and was looking forward to it. However, I actually feel the way you describe some things. The fractal literally "overwhelms" you with the amount of settings, I don't even know what many of them are is meant. The amount of amps and cabs is just heavy. Especially with the cabs, the designations regarding which microphone / where removed, phew. You don't know what to choose. At least I had hoped that when you select an amp, the right cab would be selected. Unfortunately not power it all the harder. The editor is, at least in terms of operation, much better than doing this on the device. I find that really very very fiddly and many things are shown too small on the display. You feel like stepping around the three foot switches a lot, sometimes hold them down, sometimes hold them down .... So far, I have recognized the following advantages for myself personally with the Helix, especially the fact that I do not come from this deep subject. all-in-one device; Everything is there, including more footswitches that assign whether to select an effect or another preset simplified. Bigger and heavier, of course. Personally, I find Snapshots better than Scenes to be able to switch parameters more easily. The operation on the device is simply so easy and clear. I still have the there a simple preset created, but just try it and the whole thing is super easy to understand. Display is super clear. The community is just huge, which is a huge advantage. In addition, the product family Helix, Nativ and Co. I can't really judge everything else, but I found the video just great. Whether I make the right decision FM3 or Helix ?!? Oh dear, but I think I'm going with the helix. maybe another trip to the FM9 in a while. I also found the quadcortex very interesting, but without desktop software (announced a long time ago) it's ios for me whether touch or not an absolute exclusion criterion. I don't want to keep standing around on the floor in the Hovvy room or the foot pedals operate manually on the desk. Find the device just too "young". "Good advice is expensive ;(" Greetings from Germany
I think boss is still the best all in one big box for sounds. I do think the iridium and the UA single amp moddeling pedals sound better but they’re are ofcourse less versatile.
Also own about 7 Variax guitars and basses. Line 6 has tied all their gear tigether. I love the line 6 Variax standard. Built on the Yamaha Pacifica which competes with the Strat. Just love the Variax standard. Have 2 of them
Quad cortex hands down is the best. The tone is so good I mean you can hear other parts of your guitar when you're just moving things around. The responsiveness is incredible. I have tonally perfect captures of dumbles and klons for free. Like $240,000 worth of amps and pedals for free. That's incredible that you can share these nearly perfect captures with anyone.
Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt. Your "pedal captures" do not capture how pedals really interact with a given paired amp.
The QC sounds great, but I have so many problems with the device.... Wi-Fi is bad. Ground hum when I play at home. Wanted to play a gig with it once, had such strong noise-issues that I ended up with the QC back in the car and I played a Helix. Intransparent manufacturer (here threads in the forum are simply closed) ...
@@recellegende2453 You're the first person I hear talking about the WiFi chip. I agree, doesn't quite reach as far as my phone or laptop. I've never experienced ground hum, I have it since pre order delivery and played a lot of shows in a wide variety of venues. Maybe your unit is faulty or there was an issue with the power, which can happen.
This is a great resource. Thanks for putting this together. Like you said, very few people have the opportunity to actually spend time trying all of these products.
The current generation of modelers have been out for several years now and I wouldn’t be surprised to see new products from all the manufacturers, but that being said, I doubt they can get much better sounding, they can improve interface, DSP, fine tune effects, but forward leaps have been shorter and shorter as new products come out
I’ve had the helix. Then went to Kemper. After that, Quad Cortex. Just got the FM9. FM9 right out of the box is absolutely the best tone. However I still don’t understand the UI. Quad Cortex overall is the winner if you care about UI.
I use my Helix floor for Church for easy set up , versatility, but gigging anywhere else I love my VOX and my pedal board, really can't beat a real amp, IMHO
The longer format of this video made something more apparent to me that I guess usually happens with WT videos, and I mean this in the most constructive way I can: in these discussion-heavy videos, you guys tend to interrupt each other...a lot. To the point that it's difficult to fully understand some of the ideas you're trying to communicate. I LOVE the content, and I love hearing your guys' opinions on gear this way, but it makes it a little more challenging to get what you're trying to say.
The BOSS GT-1000 (full-size) should definitely be on your list of modelers to review and sell presets for. It's a tone monster for a fraction of the price as these other ones.
The pod go is the one and only time I got a pedal that I couldn’t find a single thing I liked. The limitations of control when running it into a combo tube and lack of overall volume controls ? I had to just sell it. Now I’ve spent the last 18 months deciding which of the big boys I wanna go with and be done.
It’s helix all the way for me. All of the modelers have enough for any player but I have other line 6 gear I love like the line 6 DT 50 in both the head and the 212 combo. I use helix native in my computer. Makes no sense to crave others that I can’t afford. Saying this I’m di]ure I’d love the Kemper and others.
Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt.
I use the stomp primarily as my amps. It's at the end of my pedalboard. However, I'm considering getting a full helix, but I struggle the notion of buying one only to have helix 2 or whatever they're developing come out later this year, or next. Also, first.
I’m in the same spot. Hx stomp for amps and reverbs only. Helix will remain awesome no matter what, but I just played my first Quad Cortex and they are only a few updates away IMO from getting all the major gripes people have now out of the way. Know Line 6 is working on something allegedly, just wish they would give better hints;)
One of Line 6’s own employees has recently said in the forums, “don’t hold your breath for Helix 2”. They’re committed to continually improving the Helix. It’s better today than it was in 2015 and they’re getting ready to release yet another major update. He also said there likely won’t be a Helix 2, and that it’d be something completely different.
Probably wont get much LOVE here, but after testing a lot of the "budget" options, I went with with a Valeton GP-200, instead of the Line -6 Pod Go. Its just better I think, The time based effects are not very good, So worship use might not be the way to go, But the amp models and basic effects, drives etc are totally legit. Very impressive for basically FREE.
I hated modelers. My first exposure to a modeler that actual responded to the volume knob and picking dynamics was actually Boss. Just a simple IR-200 on a pedalboard. Helix is horrible at dynamics and volume roll off to clean up the tone. Also, every guitar sounds the same through it. The uniqueness of the guitar gets lost. Finally landed on Fractal and haven’t looked back. Especially after the latest firmware. The feel, the responsiveness, the way each guitar sounds when plugged in. All very much like playing through a real tube amp!
I was on the waiting list and I turned it down about three months ago and then I was ready to buy one finally and I just got an email yesterday on 28 February 2023 so I will be ordering mine and my expression pedal and some cables Thing that does it for me as my son wants to learn how to play the guitar and he’s 13 and I’m just gonna use that FRFR studio monitor speakers for now and get him and I having the same channels or you can actually fly into tires on his awesome.
Dear Brian! Awesome video, as usual, thank you. I have a question. I just got my FM9. There are a lot of Fractal users, who try to sale his presets. But, is there any chance to find high quality pro worship presets, maybe directly from the original Artists, who are using fractal?
Have you done an update with ToneX … ? ToneMasterPro (You at least mention Headrush, UA Pedals, Iridium, Boss, ACS-1 … … …) Simplifier, Amplifire … Friedman IR-X, CrazyTubeCircuits … … … different category, yes
I can't find somewhere to request things however can you please I beg you do a cover of phil Wickham 'heaven and earth' song it's an oldie it's golden and I can't find a tutorial or even a cover anywhere! Please guys please!
I currently have a Podgo which works awesome for me and for what I need at the moment but I would still love to try other modelers such as helix, headrush, boss, etc….
About to pull the trigger on Helix until I found MANY vids on RELIABILITY especially with foot swichtes failing... going with Fractal. Superior software and programming and much more robust.
FYI not sure if this is just on my side for some reason but it's saying this video is unlisted right now. I got here from the link in the description in the Fractal video.
Great video guys , you always give great reviews and honest opinions , but you must have trust funds to afford all these units 😬I think I’ll save up for an FM 9 by shoveling peoples driveways this winter
Your guys should try the boss, headrush, hotone, mooer and nux. Nowadays these new multieffects pedals are so good. Although these expansive multieffects pedals are worth the hype and money, but yours guys really need to give them a try if want to talk more about multieffects comparison. Or if your guys just want tone capture funtion multieffects pedal, then why not give a view for mooer ge300?
We realize that there are a lot more options on the market. But at some point it just becomes too time (and money) intensive to buy and make content on literally every product option. We mostly buy these units with our own money, and gear content is only part of what we do on the channel, so we try to find a balance between it all. We choose to make content and patches for the units that we think have the widest usage in the market, and the ones we have the most experience and expertise with. At the end of the day, you can get great tone from almost any modern digital solution. If it works for you and you love the way it sounds, the it’s the right choice.
I love my FM3 Turbo but totally agree with the cons about the amount of buttons. I've had to add an expression pedal and a Mission 2 button switch to get the functionality I wanted but now that I have, it's an amazing piece of gear! When I was searching for the unit I would buy your video was a massive help. I wanted the FM9 but it wasn't available at the time, the FM3 did not disappoint!
just got a gt1000 core the sounds are amazing , its weird though how different it is then my pod go, got it for 500 bucks half the price as the helix lt so couldn't pass it up. boss is very menu driven but like you guys have said spend a little time with it and you can make changes fast. the greatest thing though is that you can plug this into the input of my orange amp and sounds great with modeling on, which the pod go can not do at all. do miss snap shots but the core does do it sort of but the power this thing has is amazing and doesn't give you option overloud. i think it has made me use the product better bc i have to dial the sound i want no depend on other people to make presets or wait till line6 does an update for new amps to be released. sorry for my long gabbing but, hope to see you guys give boss a chance to the world think you might like them
The GT1000 is cool, but it is No Helix. Now that I've learned the Helix. The GT1000 is for small gigs. The other gigs I will use the Helix 3.5 or my Headrush.2.5. Both have Acoustic modeling on them and more/better amp updates..
Here's a question that I haven't seen addressed anywhere online. It's probably because these modeling units are used as all-in-ones much of the time. Let me set it up this way: I've seen many times, especially with the Kemper, that they are only used as an amp model and all the effects are in front run through pedals. With this in mind, if you're after the VOX / Matchless or Fender Deluxe sound, do the UA Ruby and Dream pedals do a better job of modeling those amps? I hope that question makes sense.
I’m about to upgrade my pod go to a helix ……. It’s my birthday 🎉🎉🎉 I’m hoping it will work out ….. so far my Mac has already broke this week … from an update … pretty pissed …. I kinda hate technology…. I’m too poor .. I save up all the money I have and the shot breaks and I can’t afford to constantly have to fix or upgrade….. kinda not fair man
I've been using Helix Floor for last 6 years and I love it but... Recently I watched fractal demo where dry ac30 sound was almost 3d and it was on phone speaker. I cannot afford both but I'm thinking of making the transition to FM9 just to check if it's worth the hype - I suspect it is. I'm a bit nervous about the UI as the Helix took me a bit to learn and it seems to be significantly easier to maintain. Well - if you don't try you'll never know. 🥳🤷♂️
I am a Helix and Fractal user! Both are Exceptional! It’s a Very Personal Decision but if I had to choose 1 I would sway towards my Axe FX III. The Editor with it makes the learning curve more acceptable!
I don't know why people compare the helix to the Kemper or the Kotex tampon. Not even in the same ball park, I have the Kemper and the Helix. The Helix lives in a box the Kemper lives in the studio. by the way I have a lot of crap that lives in boxes lol.
I recently got a helix, but its too digital sounding for me i dont get the sound i want, either just too thin or too much bass, and I Just dont get it to sound as I want to
We had never tried a Headrush unit when we made this video. So rather than talk about a unit we had never used, we left it out of the discussion. But we have since started making some content with a Headrush Prime. None of these companies have ever paid us 🙄
My wish is something easy to set up, that only does my 6-amps-sound and that has different ds/od pedals to boost the amps in different ways… Any suggestions? 🤔
The base unit for the Axe FX III alpha beta gamma delta eplison in australia costs $5,090 dollars and then adds on from there! Nothing more to be said. Had an American laughing at me an telling me how stupid I was for saying that the whole unit would costs over $7,000 dollars which it actually does. Oh well. I should also add of right now - 13 sept 2023 - that the Axe FX III is out of stock. The FM9 costs $7,290 so over $2,000 more than the Axe FX III.
It's Kemper for me. Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt.
Is it the general consensus now that the QC amp modelling is at least equal to Fractal? I’ve been tempted by the FM9 but the QC is considerably cheaper in the UK.
We think so (using Captures). The availability of good captures is limited though - at least until the marketplace opens. The captures we’ve made sound and respond exactly like the amp(s). Check out this video for more: th-cam.com/video/evYBrwSfTAU/w-d-xo.html Going stock amp models (not captures in QC) I’d have to give the nod to Fractal.
@@worshiptutorials can you post an example ? what specific amp for example? i have to experiment. Can you then post a fractal sample? i'll try to respond with qc. On only model side obviously
I just mean in general. I prefer Fractal’s models to QC for any given amp type that I’ve tried. We don’t have any videos comparing them. To me the QC amp models compare pretty evenly to Helix amp models. Which is still great. But again, captures are a different story.
Satanist here. Appreciate the wisdom of the human experience. Thanks for taking the time and sharing your knowledge. Good things come to all who choose kindness and grace.
You guys should get someone that played death metal, loves classic rock, acoustic / folk music, metal, oldies... ...was considered the best guitar player from Philadelphia (1996-98) , City Paper... ...loves Elvis... Ummmhmmm...me... I've subscribed, not like you needed another subscriber
Didn't you guys already do this or am I having deja vu? I know you broke up this video for more clicks but isn't just a re-upload? An original video would be nice.
We uploaded this in pieces (separate video for each modeler). This is just the whole thing in one video. We’ve been consistently uploading 3-4 original videos every week for about 14 years now 😅🤷🏻♂️
Some people are looking to reference this video too. And I have sent it to many that have asked. This just makes it easier easier. You don’t gotta watch it 😂
@@billybob7502 sure. But if we don’t publish it people won’t even know it exists. Also - you should see our support emails. Most of the questions are answered in our ReadMe’s 🤣
Are you being paid by Neural? Being bound to the app and their cloud is as much a negative as a positive. The existing directly system is horrible. 2.0 might fix it. No Hybrid mode. Missing so many features the others have and it's taking a very long time to bring the unit to the same level as the others were a year and more ago.
Wish you guys would stop regurgitating the same expensive multi effect pedals, and explore other brands like headrush or hotone ampero. There are better alternatives than spending 1-3k.
Don’t know what you mean by ‘regurgitating’. There very well may be but we make content for things we actually use. We do not think you have to spend 1-3k to play guitar.
@@rafsnchz Used a line 6 pod go, sold it in less than a year. Tried stomp, it's fine. Switched to headrush and finding better success with it. There are better alternatives than just helix, just because it isn't the most "popular" multi effects pedal out there, doesn't mean it isn't good.
Worse than what? Worse in what way? All these units have strengths and weaknesses, and what is better or worse for a particular user depends on quite a few different factors.
I buy Helix LT last week ago because this video , I up to show in high school party and i love it so much , It has everything I need to play guitar and it's worth the price.
Personally and after owning several models from each the three kings…Kemper Stage/Toaster/Rack, Fractal AX8/FM3 and L6 HD500/Helix I’ve found exactly what I was looking for from these type of devices with the Quad Cortex “capture” feature. QC captures are so authentic. I use a Dunlop mini volume/expression pedal to allow assigning dual-functionality; going between volume and expression assignments per preset via one tap on a QC footswitch. I had a huge pedalboard (21 total) built around three Kingsley tube preamps and an array of top-shelf pedals e.g. Strymon, Eventide, Analogman, Klon etc… After capturing the Kingsley preamps I’ve been able to use the QC exclusively. There really are no wrong answers between the modelers, it’s just a matter of personnel preference;)
We did a huge QC/Kemper/Amp shoot out on our other channel (th-cam.com/video/evYBrwSfTAU/w-d-xo.html), and QC definitely was more accurate to the real amp to us.
The more we use QC, the more impressed we are with it.
@@worshiptutorials You guys do a such a great job with your tutorials and demos…very inspiring, informative and helpful - Thanks!
@@worshiptutorials Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp in the head/rack. "Pedal captures" do not capture how pedals really interact with a given paired amp.
Thanks for such an in-depth video. All your points are valid...from experience! I was a strict boutique tube amp guy with pedalboard. I tried the Fractal FM3 and could not believe how good it sounded and felt. But, the CPU limitations were a problem. I decided to try a Helix and sent it right back. The tone was not the same as the Fractal and even though it's a true "all-in-one", I didn't like the feel of the expression pedal and I was stuck with it. So back to FM3 I went. Meanwhile, I put my name on the list for an FM9. A year later, I'm still waiting. So I bit the bullet and bought a AXE-FX III and FC12. Love it! I'm still very interested in the FM9 when ever I get the invite to buy one. It will be nice to lose carrying around the 3-space rack my AXE-FX is in. I recently heard a demo of a Helix vs. FM9 playing a U2 song. The Helix was thin with some fizz on in. The fractal had a nice organic fat Vox tone with out the extra fizz.
I have the RP-1 c1993 but its menus not working right anymore, I like the idea of taking captures of every piece of gear I encounter, however I do not have any desire to be dealing with a "RACK" anything. With the concensus that nothing sounds as good as fractal I feel like I have to choose between captures or better sounding effects. Fm9 vs QC seems like a tough choice to me.
@@johanjotun1647 WT compares the 2 in a vid. Final conclusion was, amps both sound great, but Fractal effects edge out QC.
@@20weststudio I'm hovering, i just can't imagine myself kicked back in this chair juggling my 8 stringer and an FM9 as easily, and I really prefer to have my footrest up.
With the latest 3.5 firmware for the heliX... The capability to run duel ir, While selecting 12 different mics and adjusting their position, distance, and axis, is unbelievably game-changing for the final guitar tones you can achieve!!
This is the best review I've ever seen of all these units together....great stuff.
THIS VIDEO IS SOOOOOO GOOD!!!!!
So many times, Ive wondered about which way to go when the time does come for me to purchase one. I almost always lean towards the Helix but, Axe FX and Kemper and QC are also all very appealing for multiple reasons. About a year ago, I was conversing with a friend specifically about the Helix & the Kemper.......aged old question......Which is "better"? His response was, "I can do a world tour with either one". I think that idea goes across the board for the modelers mentioned here.
Thanks Brian & Bradford! You guys ROCK!!!!!!
That reference to Jim and Dwight was exquisite
The Headrush Gang must unite and face these forces of evil!!
In all seriousness though, the MX5 fills a gap in the market. It's a small form factor of the bigger unit without compromising on power, which is not something any other brands can say from what I've seen. Seriously powerful unit, and I'm using one for worship. You guys should definitely check it out.
Do you know where I casn find some worship sounds, pads, presets for MX5?
@@samulaq I believe New Vintage Audio has presets for the Pedalboard and Gigboard, you can add those to the MX5 and just set the footswitches accordingly. I'm not aware of other sites/platforms that sell Headrush presets, cos I personally like to fiddle and experiment. Hopefully some other users can recommend other sources 👌🏽
@@samulaq th-cam.com/video/7JDkRLXnKZg/w-d-xo.html
Helix for me! I just got my second one after trying a pedalboard with a stomp. I loved the stomp + pedalboard but the cost of trying to get the same pedals/tones out of something the same size or smaller than the Helix is pretty much impossible!
Thanks to your information, I decided to pick up a Helix LT. Picked it up yesterday, I absolutely love it!!
Skip it and get a Yamaha THR30ii, you can make a ton of tones and utilize a pedal to switch between your tones. It’s so much easier. We use my THR30ii and plug it into the house for our praise team.
Hello, everyone,
I've been following your channel for quite a while. From time to time I have to look at something twice because the English is sometimes too fast.
It's one of the best videos I've seen on the subject. This is exactly the dilemma I stand in. I have to preface that
I am an absolute hobby and should practice more. But the technique is also fun ;)
I currently have an FM3 and a Helix Floor to try. Both cannot and should not stay because it is too expensive.
I had promised a lot from the FM3 and was looking forward to it.
However, I actually feel the way you describe some things.
The fractal literally "overwhelms" you with the amount of settings, I don't even know what many of them are
is meant.
The amount of amps and cabs is just heavy. Especially with the cabs, the designations regarding which microphone / where
removed, phew. You don't know what to choose.
At least I had hoped that when you select an amp, the right cab would be selected. Unfortunately not power
it all the harder. The editor is, at least in terms of operation, much better than doing this on the device. I find that
really very very fiddly and many things are shown too small on the display. You feel like stepping around the three foot switches a lot, sometimes hold them down, sometimes hold them down ....
So far, I have recognized the following advantages for myself personally with the Helix, especially the fact that I do not come from this deep subject.
all-in-one device; Everything is there, including more footswitches that assign whether to select an effect or another preset
simplified. Bigger and heavier, of course.
Personally, I find Snapshots better than Scenes to be able to switch parameters more easily.
The operation on the device is simply so easy and clear. I still have the there a simple preset
created, but just try it and the whole thing is super easy to understand. Display is super clear.
The community is just huge, which is a huge advantage. In addition, the product family Helix, Nativ and Co.
I can't really judge everything else, but I found the video just great.
Whether I make the right decision FM3 or Helix ?!? Oh dear, but I think I'm going with the helix.
maybe another trip to the FM9 in a while.
I also found the quadcortex very interesting, but without desktop software (announced a long time ago) it's ios for me whether touch or
not an absolute exclusion criterion. I don't want to keep standing around on the floor in the Hovvy room or the foot pedals
operate manually on the desk. Find the device just too "young".
"Good advice is expensive ;("
Greetings from Germany
Your Duelist drive captures on the Cortex Cloud are insane. Some of my favorite captures out there.
Boss GT-1000 is also " all in one"
I think many people has underrated Boss they are approaching modeling differently I think they're doing a good job.
I think boss is still the best all in one big box for sounds. I do think the iridium and the UA single amp moddeling pedals sound better but they’re are ofcourse less versatile.
Although the Helix has better fx
@@timodelange. Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔 Both pretty low-tier fx
Also own about 7 Variax guitars and basses. Line 6 has tied all their gear tigether. I love the line 6 Variax standard. Built on the Yamaha Pacifica which competes with the Strat. Just love the Variax standard. Have 2 of them
Solid vid, great advice.
Quad cortex hands down is the best. The tone is so good I mean you can hear other parts of your guitar when you're just moving things around. The responsiveness is incredible. I have tonally perfect captures of dumbles and klons for free. Like $240,000 worth of amps and pedals for free. That's incredible that you can share these nearly perfect captures with anyone.
Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt. Your "pedal captures" do not capture how pedals really interact with a given paired amp.
Just looked you up. Looks like you must have pulled those captures.
@@OTownProductionsDJ I meant I have them from other people who captured them. They sound incredible.
The QC sounds great, but I have so many problems with the device....
Wi-Fi is bad.
Ground hum when I play at home.
Wanted to play a gig with it once, had such strong noise-issues that I ended up with the QC back in the car and I played a Helix.
Intransparent manufacturer (here threads in the forum are simply closed)
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@@recellegende2453 You're the first person I hear talking about the WiFi chip. I agree, doesn't quite reach as far as my phone or laptop.
I've never experienced ground hum, I have it since pre order delivery and played a lot of shows in a wide variety of venues.
Maybe your unit is faulty or there was an issue with the power, which can happen.
Thank you gentlemen!
This is a great resource. Thanks for putting this together. Like you said, very few people have the opportunity to actually spend time trying all of these products.
I literally was just looking for a video exactly like this on your channel two nights ago!!! Then you made one!
Headrush for life :)
I have used a Pod Go and Helix LT and haven't had issues using them at church nor at home.
My Helix Floor is one of the best inventions ever.
The current generation of modelers have been out for several years now and I wouldn’t be surprised to see new products from all the manufacturers, but that being said, I doubt they can get much better sounding, they can improve interface, DSP, fine tune effects, but forward leaps have been shorter and shorter as new products come out
Why is there zero mention of BOSS GT-1000?
I’ve had the helix. Then went to Kemper. After that, Quad Cortex. Just got the FM9. FM9 right out of the box is absolutely the best tone. However I still don’t understand the UI. Quad Cortex overall is the winner if you care about UI.
Boss Gx 100. Sounds great, easy to use.
$600!
I use my Helix floor for Church for easy set up , versatility, but gigging anywhere else I love my VOX and my pedal board, really can't beat a real amp, IMHO
The longer format of this video made something more apparent to me that I guess usually happens with WT videos, and I mean this in the most constructive way I can: in these discussion-heavy videos, you guys tend to interrupt each other...a lot. To the point that it's difficult to fully understand some of the ideas you're trying to communicate. I LOVE the content, and I love hearing your guys' opinions on gear this way, but it makes it a little more challenging to get what you're trying to say.
The BOSS GT-1000 (full-size) should definitely be on your list of modelers to review and sell presets for. It's a tone monster for a fraction of the price as these other ones.
In Canada it's about the same proce as the helix lt
I'm curious why they never talk about the BOSS GT-1000, it deserves a mention.
On my way home from work where sweetwater delivered my Neural Quad Cortex a little earlier today. Time to get no sleep tonight!🙌
The pod go is the one and only time I got a pedal that I couldn’t find a single thing I liked. The limitations of control when running it into a combo tube and lack of overall volume controls ? I had to just sell it. Now I’ve spent the last 18 months deciding which of the big boys I wanna go with and be done.
It’s helix all the way for me. All of the modelers have enough for any player but I have other line 6 gear I love like the line 6 DT 50 in both the head and the 212 combo. I use helix native in my computer. Makes no sense to crave others that I can’t afford. Saying this I’m di]ure I’d love the Kemper and others.
Good stuff, fellas. Much appreciated!
I really wish you guys would do some Headrush videos or at least some presets or tones 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I’ve had helix, kemper, fm3 .
But quad cortex on another level.
Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt.
I use the stomp primarily as my amps. It's at the end of my pedalboard. However, I'm considering getting a full helix, but I struggle the notion of buying one only to have helix 2 or whatever they're developing come out later this year, or next. Also, first.
I’m in the same spot. Hx stomp for amps and reverbs only. Helix will remain awesome no matter what, but I just played my first Quad Cortex and they are only a few updates away IMO from getting all the major gripes people have now out of the way. Know Line 6 is working on something allegedly, just wish they would give better hints;)
One of Line 6’s own employees has recently said in the forums, “don’t hold your breath for Helix 2”. They’re committed to continually improving the Helix. It’s better today than it was in 2015 and they’re getting ready to release yet another major update. He also said there likely won’t be a Helix 2, and that it’d be something completely different.
You should try the Headrush MX5 for no other reason than it has the same power as the full pedalboard. It really does sound good.
I had Eleven Rack. Same software. I didn’t like it and got rid of it. Do with that what you will 😅
Do you know where I casn find some worship sounds, pads, presets for MX5?
@@bmitchellmusic If ease of use and great tones are not for you then no shame in getting a Kemper :) The Headrush is also an all in one unit.
@@samulaq I'll send u a link on the comments below
@@samulaq check this guy. He has free and good presets.
th-cam.com/video/7JDkRLXnKZg/w-d-xo.html
Talk about how pros are giving up on Helix due to reliability issues!
Probably wont get much LOVE here, but after testing a lot of the "budget" options, I went with with a Valeton GP-200, instead of the Line -6 Pod Go. Its just better I think, The time based effects are not very good, So worship use might not be the way to go, But the amp models and basic effects, drives etc are totally legit. Very impressive for basically FREE.
i will choose the quad cortex because it's the most advanced and it has the best looper
The Kemper has dual function expression pedal input. You can use it as a wah and volume pedal
I hated modelers. My first exposure to a modeler that actual responded to the volume knob and picking dynamics was actually Boss. Just a simple IR-200 on a pedalboard.
Helix is horrible at dynamics and volume roll off to clean up the tone. Also, every guitar sounds the same through it. The uniqueness of the guitar gets lost.
Finally landed on Fractal and haven’t looked back. Especially after the latest firmware. The feel, the responsiveness, the way each guitar sounds when plugged in. All very much like playing through a real tube amp!
After 8 years, I am FINALLY actually selling my whole board + amp and will get a Helix LT.😅
Id really like to see you guys review the Headrush pedalboard, and especially see how it compares to these modelers
I was on the waiting list and I turned it down about three months ago and then I was ready to buy one finally and I just got an email yesterday on 28 February 2023 so I will be ordering mine and my expression pedal and some cables
Thing that does it for me as my son wants to learn how to play the guitar and he’s 13 and I’m just gonna use that FRFR studio monitor speakers for now and get him and I having the same channels or you can actually fly into tires on his awesome.
How come there are some comments from 2 months ago?
I would love to buy a Quad Cortex. It captures pedals, amps and it also captured my heart. lol
Dear Brian! Awesome video, as usual, thank you. I have a question. I just got my FM9. There are a lot of Fractal users, who try to sale his presets. But, is there any chance to find high quality pro worship presets, maybe directly from the original Artists, who are using fractal?
Never seen the subscribe button do the color thing.
Ah cool - that’s a new feature that YT rolled out where it uses AI to react to what is said in the video. Pretty cool
Have you done an update with ToneX … ?
ToneMasterPro
(You at least mention Headrush, UA Pedals, Iridium, Boss, ACS-1 … … …)
Simplifier, Amplifire … Friedman IR-X, CrazyTubeCircuits … … … different category, yes
My head hurts. I have a WT Helix. I still don’t know how to use it.
I can't find somewhere to request things however can you please I beg you do a cover of phil Wickham 'heaven and earth' song it's an oldie it's golden and I can't find a tutorial or even a cover anywhere! Please guys please!
I currently have a Podgo which works awesome for me and for what I need at the moment but I would still love to try other modelers such as helix, headrush, boss, etc….
Love it 😍
where is headrush in this comparison ?
What happened to Sunday Vlogs? I miss them 😩 And yes, I realize this has nothing to do with the video lol (great stuff tho!!)
I miss them too!!
About to pull the trigger on Helix until I found MANY vids on RELIABILITY especially with foot swichtes failing... going with Fractal. Superior software and programming and much more robust.
FYI not sure if this is just on my side for some reason but it's saying this video is unlisted right now. I got here from the link in the description in the Fractal video.
Have you ever compared the ISP Technologies - Theta Pro DSP guitar effects processor? It has real Pure Tone. Let me know your thoughts if you do.
Just recently you did a in depth look at the Headrush Prime. Could you do an updated video including that unit within the overall comparison ?
I bought an used Helix LT for $600!
Great video guys , you always give great reviews and honest opinions , but you must have trust funds to afford all these units 😬I think I’ll save up for an FM 9 by shoveling peoples driveways this winter
People view this all wrong - we use these to make products and earn a living. Very different than being hobby musicians 😊
Your guys should try the boss, headrush, hotone, mooer and nux. Nowadays these new multieffects pedals are so good.
Although these expansive multieffects pedals are worth the hype and money, but yours guys really need to give them a try if want to talk more about multieffects comparison.
Or if your guys just want tone capture funtion multieffects pedal, then why not give a view for mooer ge300?
We realize that there are a lot more options on the market. But at some point it just becomes too time (and money) intensive to buy and make content on literally every product option.
We mostly buy these units with our own money, and gear content is only part of what we do on the channel, so we try to find a balance between it all.
We choose to make content and patches for the units that we think have the widest usage in the market, and the ones we have the most experience and expertise with.
At the end of the day, you can get great tone from almost any modern digital solution. If it works for you and you love the way it sounds, the it’s the right choice.
I love my FM3 Turbo but totally agree with the cons about the amount of buttons. I've had to add an expression pedal and a Mission 2 button switch to get the functionality I wanted but now that I have, it's an amazing piece of gear! When I was searching for the unit I would buy your video was a massive help. I wanted the FM9 but it wasn't available at the time, the FM3 did not disappoint!
just got a gt1000 core the sounds are amazing , its weird though how different it is then my pod go, got it for 500 bucks half the price as the helix lt so couldn't pass it up. boss is very menu driven but like you guys have said spend a little time with it and you can make changes fast. the greatest thing though is that you can plug this into the input of my orange amp and sounds great with modeling on, which the pod go can not do at all. do miss snap shots but the core does do it sort of but the power this thing has is amazing and doesn't give you option overloud. i think it has made me use the product better bc i have to dial the sound i want no depend on other people to make presets or wait till line6 does an update for new amps to be released.
sorry for my long gabbing but, hope to see you guys give boss a chance to the world think you might like them
The GT1000 is cool, but it is No Helix. Now that I've learned the Helix. The GT1000 is for small gigs. The other gigs I will use the Helix 3.5 or my Headrush.2.5. Both have Acoustic modeling on them and more/better amp updates..
Here's a question that I haven't seen addressed anywhere online. It's probably because these modeling units are used as all-in-ones much of the time.
Let me set it up this way: I've seen many times, especially with the Kemper, that they are only used as an amp model and all the effects are in front run through pedals. With this in mind, if you're after the VOX / Matchless or Fender Deluxe sound, do the UA Ruby and Dream pedals do a better job of modeling those amps?
I hope that question makes sense.
I’m about to upgrade my pod go to a helix ……. It’s my birthday 🎉🎉🎉 I’m hoping it will work out ….. so far my Mac has already broke this week … from an update … pretty pissed …. I kinda hate technology…. I’m too poor .. I save up all the money I have and the shot breaks and I can’t afford to constantly have to fix or upgrade….. kinda not fair man
If I ever meet Bradford, the first thing I’ll say to him is, “Hi Brad”
I'm saving up for a Zoom G3Xn
edit:
I have it now, its good for a first fx pedal,
but I feel like the 7 fx blocks aren't enough (amps take 2 blocks)
I use the zoom and enjoy it.
Try using different drive pedals in place of an amp. You may be able to gain a slot.
Helix is pretty good
Only HEADRUSH pedalboard, is simply the best.
I've been using Helix Floor for last 6 years and I love it but... Recently I watched fractal demo where dry ac30 sound was almost 3d and it was on phone speaker. I cannot afford both but I'm thinking of making the transition to FM9 just to check if it's worth the hype - I suspect it is. I'm a bit nervous about the UI as the Helix took me a bit to learn and it seems to be significantly easier to maintain. Well - if you don't try you'll never know. 🥳🤷♂️
I am a Helix and Fractal user! Both are Exceptional! It’s a Very Personal Decision but if I had to choose 1 I would sway towards my Axe FX III. The Editor with it makes the learning curve more acceptable!
Dzięki wielkie!! It's fun to talk to a Polish guy in English on YT comments!
1 other note: Fractal’s Effects are Second to None.
@@radosawpendziaek7503 Jenkuya! I know very little Polish! Only words from when my Grandmother was pissed off at me!
Where is the Headrush?
Mine is in the corner of my music room after suffering the ROD. Loved it and babied it for 3 years, then it up and died.
I don't know why people compare the helix to the Kemper or the Kotex tampon. Not even in the same ball park, I have the Kemper and the Helix. The Helix lives in a box the Kemper lives in the studio. by the way I have a lot of crap that lives in boxes lol.
Wouldn't an all in one unit be something with an amplifier and a speaker like a Katana, instead of a Helix?
Headrush all the way.... please try it.
Question: Will i be happy with a Helix if the other guitar player in the band has a Fractal and i have to hear him night after night?
I spy an original POD2.0 😎still use mine at home for practice , just simple to dial up, doesn’t sound as good as these though. 😢
Should I get a QC or Fender GTX100?
I recently got a helix, but its too digital sounding for me i dont get the sound i want, either just too thin or too much bass, and I Just dont get it to sound as I want to
I find it hard to buy an all in one which has been around for so long.
I have a pod go and absolutely love it but should I just use the effects loop with it or should I just go ahead and get a helix LT?
What about headrush? Did headrush not pay you?
We had never tried a Headrush unit when we made this video. So rather than talk about a unit we had never used, we left it out of the discussion. But we have since started making some content with a Headrush Prime.
None of these companies have ever paid us 🙄
My wish is something easy to set up, that only does my 6-amps-sound and that has different ds/od pedals to boost the amps in different ways… Any suggestions? 🤔
The base unit for the Axe FX III alpha beta gamma delta eplison in australia costs $5,090 dollars and then adds on from there! Nothing more to be said. Had an American laughing at me an telling me how stupid I was for saying that the whole unit would costs over $7,000 dollars which it actually does. Oh well. I should also add of right now - 13 sept 2023 - that the Axe FX III is out of stock. The FM9 costs $7,290 so over $2,000 more than the Axe FX III.
Boss Gt1000
Bradford was not first
It's Kemper for me. Kemper has a better "ecosystem" than Quad Cortex. You have the Kemper Kabinet, the numerous profiles that have accumulated over time, and the power amp inbuilt.
Hmmm..... Interesting.
how many pedals can be used simultaneously in one preset in Pod Go?
4 open blocks, 4 set blocks
Whoa...Bradford talked first...
Is it the general consensus now that the QC amp modelling is at least equal to Fractal? I’ve been tempted by the FM9 but the QC is considerably cheaper in the UK.
We think so (using Captures). The availability of good captures is limited though - at least until the marketplace opens. The captures we’ve made sound and respond exactly like the amp(s). Check out this video for more: th-cam.com/video/evYBrwSfTAU/w-d-xo.html
Going stock amp models (not captures in QC) I’d have to give the nod to Fractal.
@@worshiptutorials can you post an example ? what specific amp for example? i have to experiment. Can you then post a fractal sample? i'll try to respond with qc. On only model side obviously
th-cam.com/video/evYBrwSfTAU/w-d-xo.html this is a video we did comparing QC to KPA to the amp we profiled and captured
@@worshiptutorials no, i mean on stock model amps of fractal and qc. What model from fractal Is superior for you on qc?
I just mean in general. I prefer Fractal’s models to QC for any given amp type that I’ve tried.
We don’t have any videos comparing them. To me the QC amp models compare pretty evenly to Helix amp models. Which is still great.
But again, captures are a different story.
Satanist here. Appreciate the wisdom of the human experience. Thanks for taking the time and sharing your knowledge. Good things come to all who choose kindness and grace.
You guys should get someone that played death metal, loves classic rock, acoustic / folk music, metal, oldies...
...was considered the best guitar player from Philadelphia (1996-98) , City Paper...
...loves Elvis...
Ummmhmmm...me...
I've subscribed, not like you needed another subscriber
But we love each and every one. Thank you ♥️
Didn't you guys already do this or am I having deja vu? I know you broke up this video for more clicks but isn't just a re-upload? An original video would be nice.
We uploaded this in pieces (separate video for each modeler). This is just the whole thing in one video.
We’ve been consistently uploading 3-4 original videos every week for about 14 years now 😅🤷🏻♂️
Some people are looking to reference this video too. And I have sent it to many that have asked. This just makes it easier easier. You don’t gotta watch it 😂
@Bradford Mitchell it's in the description of your videos lol some ppl.
@@worshiptutorials yea but the whole video was uploaded before, right? I remember watching it before you broke it up, or I'm I crazy?
@@billybob7502 sure. But if we don’t publish it people won’t even know it exists.
Also - you should see our support emails. Most of the questions are answered in our ReadMe’s 🤣
Or just buy a Headrush.
Are you being paid by Neural? Being bound to the app and their cloud is as much a negative as a positive. The existing directly system is horrible. 2.0 might fix it. No Hybrid mode. Missing so many features the others have and it's taking a very long time to bring the unit to the same level as the others were a year and more ago.
No we are not being paid by anybody
Wish you guys would stop regurgitating the same expensive multi effect pedals, and explore other brands like headrush or hotone ampero. There are better alternatives than spending 1-3k.
Line 6 Pod Go, HX Stomp i’d use one of these over any chinese stuff. Not sure about headrush, it seems like nobody use them a least here on youtube.
Don’t know what you mean by ‘regurgitating’.
There very well may be but we make content for things we actually use. We do not think you have to spend 1-3k to play guitar.
@@rafsnchz Used a line 6 pod go, sold it in less than a year. Tried stomp, it's fine. Switched to headrush and finding better success with it. There are better alternatives than just helix, just because it isn't the most "popular" multi effects pedal out there, doesn't mean it isn't good.
@@kal-el4781 the point of this video is ‘best’, not ‘budget’. I don’t know what “better alternatives“ means outside prioritizing cost.
Human BEANS
Helix IS worse, by far, objectively. Fractal is much, much better.
Worse than what? Worse in what way? All these units have strengths and weaknesses, and what is better or worse for a particular user depends on quite a few different factors.