I think you should maybe consider the countless hours and years spent training to get onto that stage and the strength to be able to bend the blade how you'd like, but yk bad fencing i guess...
If you want realistic fencing, do HEMA. Olympic fencing is not meant to represent a realistic duel with real weapons at this point. It is a sport and that's all it wants to and has to be. It is an incredibly fun one at that. I do both HEMA and olympic fencing and the mindset when fencing is completely different and that is ok. If you think of it as games, one is call of duty and the other is ready or not. Both are fun but in different ways and for different reasons. Some like one better than the other and others like them both, but neither is better or worse than the other just because one is closer to realism. If they are both well made and have fun and engaging gameplay, both games can be equally fun regardless of how close to the real thing they are. It's the same with HEMA and Olympic fencing.
@@user-qx5cn1si1q All of the kinetic energy that is used on bending it will not be transferred onto the tip. Additionally, the bending makes it so the blade is not longer in line with the direction of the stab which makes transferring energy harder. The springy property also causes energy to be transferred much less effectively overall. This is why shorter and very rigid daggers are so effective at getting through things. It is so rigid that the force you put into the stab is almost completely focused on the point and since it stays rigid after impact there is no other way for the energy to go but the direction you are pushing in. Fencing weapons are of course deliberately made to be as ineffective as possible at delivering kinetic energy to the opponent to avoid injury, but if you look at the historical weapons that foils and epees derive from you will see they are all very rigid since they are designed to be actual weapons. For a simple comparison that should make it clear: Imagine you want to push someone away from you with a pole. You have a pool noodle or a wooden pole to choose from. You will pick the wooden staff because you can much more easily transfer energy to the person with it compared to the pool noodle which will just bend and bend without pushing the person at all.
fencing's a sport. it's arbitrary like any other sport. there seems to be a common idea that fencing has to be like a real fight and accurate to a duel, instead of it's own sporting event. i don't know why you're so hung up on connecting it to a duel. "but this isn't real fencing, this isn't like a fight at all" comments inevitably fail because fencing's a sport dictated by it's own rules now... you wouldn't say "wow basketball isn't like any real life activity at all" because it doesn't have to be. "this isn't real sword fighting" and no one said it was. it's not supposed to and doesn't have to be. it is entirely unbound by the rules of sword fighting. bending the sword like it's a car antenna counts as good fencing because that's what the sport is for. it's not what duels are for, but fencing is not a duel. HEMA exists for a reason. That's supposed to be faithful to history. Fencing is as bound to your idea of a good duel as basketball or football are.
You’re comparing apples to oranges. Olympic fencing is a sport and not meant to represent real combat. If you only like combat fencing then do HEMA instead.
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For some reason, bending the sword like it's a car antenna counts as good fencing these days.
I think you should maybe consider the countless hours and years spent training to get onto that stage and the strength to be able to bend the blade how you'd like, but yk bad fencing i guess...
If you want realistic fencing, do HEMA. Olympic fencing is not meant to represent a realistic duel with real weapons at this point. It is a sport and that's all it wants to and has to be. It is an incredibly fun one at that. I do both HEMA and olympic fencing and the mindset when fencing is completely different and that is ok. If you think of it as games, one is call of duty and the other is ready or not. Both are fun but in different ways and for different reasons. Some like one better than the other and others like them both, but neither is better or worse than the other just because one is closer to realism. If they are both well made and have fun and engaging gameplay, both games can be equally fun regardless of how close to the real thing they are. It's the same with HEMA and Olympic fencing.
So you're saying if such weapon is bent it will not be able to easily penetrate enemy?
@@user-qx5cn1si1q All of the kinetic energy that is used on bending it will not be transferred onto the tip. Additionally, the bending makes it so the blade is not longer in line with the direction of the stab which makes transferring energy harder. The springy property also causes energy to be transferred much less effectively overall. This is why shorter and very rigid daggers are so effective at getting through things. It is so rigid that the force you put into the stab is almost completely focused on the point and since it stays rigid after impact there is no other way for the energy to go but the direction you are pushing in. Fencing weapons are of course deliberately made to be as ineffective as possible at delivering kinetic energy to the opponent to avoid injury, but if you look at the historical weapons that foils and epees derive from you will see they are all very rigid since they are designed to be actual weapons.
For a simple comparison that should make it clear:
Imagine you want to push someone away from you with a pole. You have a pool noodle or a wooden pole to choose from. You will pick the wooden staff because you can much more easily transfer energy to the person with it compared to the pool noodle which will just bend and bend without pushing the person at all.
fencing's a sport. it's arbitrary like any other sport. there seems to be a common idea that fencing has to be like a real fight and accurate to a duel, instead of it's own sporting event. i don't know why you're so hung up on connecting it to a duel.
"but this isn't real fencing, this isn't like a fight at all" comments inevitably fail because fencing's a sport dictated by it's own rules now... you wouldn't say "wow basketball isn't like any real life activity at all" because it doesn't have to be.
"this isn't real sword fighting" and no one said it was. it's not supposed to and doesn't have to be. it is entirely unbound by the rules of sword fighting. bending the sword like it's a car antenna counts as good fencing because that's what the sport is for. it's not what duels are for, but fencing is not a duel.
HEMA exists for a reason. That's supposed to be faithful to history. Fencing is as bound to your idea of a good duel as basketball or football are.
So! That’s a really fast and really silly game of tag.
@@ALPHARIUS8035 Hell no 😭
@@tkimmyfencing Hold on... let him cook. 😂
All sports are games. If you want to train for combat then do HEMA instead.
@@deekay13 Well said good Sir!
wow!pretty cool!
Isn't that Leung Chin Yu? you can see the name on the lame
Yes, the broadcast ing team didn’t do a good job
He is leung not yeung chi ka
to be bageled at that level... ouchie... (in my old club we calla bagel 5 - 0... and 15-0 a golden bagel..)
what bagel what
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CROSS FEET CROSS FEET RED CARD RED CARD
That rule only applies to saber fencers. Not foil nor epee
@@Bioleak oh
@@Bioleak whoops 🤦♂️
More Shikine edits!!!!!
where are the shikine edits
more shikine edits
Good fencing. Terrible music.
thanks
wow this is just unwatchable in 30 fps
i think thats just u
lmao no its not, you're just spoiled
old fencing is much better than this..
You’re comparing apples to oranges. Olympic fencing is a sport and not meant to represent real combat. If you only like combat fencing then do HEMA instead.
You can’t steal people’s videos!
Where's the original vid?
@@aiheartso I screen recorded the live stream