Honestly, the most interesting part of the original design is that third mechanical arm coming out of the center of her back, holding her rocket launcher. The fact that people can _outright miss that_ shows how much of a failure in execution the original design is.
i saw a guy who did a redesign of a few of the characters and he was in finance. he did a better job then then Concord did. it really makes me wonder who in the crap did they get to do the design. How did they do such a bad job? the levels of failure that was needed for this to happen just is astounding.
When Mike tells you about drawing texture, take him at his word. The guy learned the hard way in his own comic book. And it wasn't a character, it was a wicker chair!😆
Akira Toriyama kept having to learn this lesson. Firstly, making the Super Saiyan form blonde relieved some of the it took to ink all of Goku's hair. Secondly, he learned that giving Cell all those leopard print spots was a mistake.
@@ericbright1742 IIRC, those leopard-print spots were not actually a mistake: they were intentional so he would have a reason to never bring Cell back like he did with Frieza at the beginning of the Android Saga.
Funny enough my friend asked me why Concord characters looked so bad and it got me thinking to my first comic book I've ever seen when I moved to US. As a 43 yeard old, I remember it being Xmen drawn by Jim Lee ... I remember thinking "Man this guy has claws coming out of him and this guy in the middle (Cyclops) was really buff and looked like a leader. The women of course were gorgeous (Psylocke and Rogue in there) ... and I realized that most of today's artists probably don't even pick up a comic book these days like we did back in the day since it was our "material" for art and entertainment. And if they do, most of them are always taught to make art that avert's the "male gaze" ... but thats another topic. Compounded with the fact that Saturday morning cartoons are not out anymore and that most "cartoons" these days are just horrible tumblr art like Steven Universe ... I feel like budding artists don't really have much to go by.
There's always the good stuff in the past we can reference for good stuff. Never let your children watch bad animation. Give them a sense of what is good, true, and quality material! And welcome to the channel!
The original design was so bad, I didn’t even realize it was able to fly. I’ll bet this guy didn’t know either. But that’s the fault of the original designers failing to convey their characters’ purpose.
See the thing is, as someone who is more into the gritty and more grounded designs, you could make the "idea" of this character work, but what they produced is like a first draft of a super early colour tryout not a final thing. Its just weird.
Very weird. It's like everyone in the company with any sense was afraid to tell whoever was in charge that these designs suck. Welcome to the channel, btw!!!
This is really something. Her original design makes her look like the kind of bland, nameless, mass-produced grunt character that exists to get shot at or beat up by the main characters, and you've transformed it into something fitting for an actual hero-type. Or at the very least something I and a lot of other people would be happy to play as.
I love how the most interaction this game has gotten has been from people flexing by redesigning their awful characters. Also, props for not immediately just defaulting to "bikini babe" like many others do. You can be fully suited up and still look like a woman.
Dude, I’ve loved your work for so long and you’ve been a huge inspiration to me in the art world. I had no idea you had a TH-cam channel and instantly subscribed when I checked my Injustice comics and saw your name 😂😂
Didn't actually mind a flatter chest/sports bra look, it's just dull. Somebody else added wings/thrusters and made it look really cool. The helmet has a fly/dragonfly wibe to it so it's not THAT bad. It's just that there's nothing else. The rocketlauncher doesn't really make sense for such a nimble character. Wish you would redo it with flying in mind
I feel like keeping the chest smaller would've given her a more graceful/agile feel which would've been a cool echo to the cat aspect of the helmet. She would have felt more agile imo
@@BlacklistUniverse No definitely not what they were going for (tho its hard to say what they were going for, period) , but i thought it was what you were trying to lean to in your redesign, hence why imo small > bigger chest in that case but nvm then lmao
To balance this, you could put more emphasis on hips and thighs since she is supposed to be an airborne character. Would better imply that at least she jumps alot.
I think the thing about her not having breast is because her chest plate thing is supposed to be compressive. They just decided to make it the same color as the rest of the suit. But you can see the line where it’s supposed to end sort of.
@@BlacklistUniverse don’t worry I get it. Even with a compressive design it should still have a bump to show that something exist there. Prime example is how mandolorian armor is feminized while still looking militaristic.
When you talked about adding too much detail it really reminded me of reading the end of chapter pages for My Hero Academia. Horikoshi very often complained about himself going overboard in a design and having to draw that so often. Also lovely work as always. I rather enjoy the redesign videos. It has helped me revisit some of my older designs. And it pleases my eyes.
Poor fellow -- I hope he was able to fit in a costume change for his characters later in the manga👍 I remember an animator from Disney once saying of character design; "every button costs $10,000" so it was really important to keep designs clean.
Out of all your concord redesing, this one is my favorite ( yet), the original character is just terribly bland and silly with the golf ball head. But you turned it into a super cool looking amphibian, feline alien space suit. Amazing work
Eight years creating Concord and the best they could deliver was that garbage created by a bunch of woke liberals who hate boobs and art. This re-draw was 10 times better then the original character.
"I do apologize to our flat chested viewers out there". 1: Why? 2: You follow it up with most of your viewers being male. Are you saying we're fat? (this second one is a joke) 3: Holy cap, she looks WAY more like a strong combat character by seven and a half minutes in. Nice!
This is just my personal head canon about the character from the few images I have seen of her. Her asymmetric leg armour combined with the rocket launcher and skinny body made mr think that this character rocket jumps to gain altitude (protected by a downwards facing sci-fi-shield or something), but made a few oopsies along the way and blew some of her body parts off, which were then replaced with futuristic bionics. That would also explain the completely sealed helmet, severe burns DrDoom or Vader style. Since inclusivity and representation was a selling point of the game they could have used that to represent amputees by going all in on highlighting the prosthetics, such as springy athlete runner blades.
the original designs helmet was to big for the body shape and just making it smaller and putting armor pieces on the chest, arms and legs to protect vital spots with a body suit under it that show it was armored but still flexible might have worked it would be more feminine but believable future armor.
This series is really cool. Would like to see all character designs improved because Concord consisted of only bad to terrible designs. What would be interesting as well is "What makes good character design?" from someone who really knows his stuff. I'm learning a lot from these videos and it neatly shows what not to do and what to do
Awesome video, and you character is indee much more apealing. IMO you could try to make at least the same palette, trying to make a more direct comparisson but in a more familiar way. I mean, the main characteristic is the red plate visor, and you made it blue, i wouldn't recognize if you tossed it without showing that is a redesign proces, yk? I mean, is really great to go with a more trully redefining aspect, but maybe this could teach us how to make a better palette, maybe changing values or saturation and explaining why? Great video, i'll binge the rest :D
That's a good point, I didn't even try a red visor, It would probably look cool. I'll try and toy with saturation levels in upcoming vides. Thanks, And welcome to the channel!
This was the design I was closest to liking. The overall silhouette reminded me almost of a bootleg Metroid Fusion suit. The way bits of it are asymmetrical makes me think it’s supposed to be a sort of scavenged, thrown together in the heat of the moment kind of thing, but it’s all the same drab ugly greenish color. If they were going for that all of the different parts should have had more vibrant and varied colors to show it didn’t originally go together. The shoulder pads definitely help the large helmet fit the body better!
Looking good Golf-Ball Head Girl! I wonder if her and Mike's New Robot are friends? Who to draw next🤔 What about Harley from the new Joker movie? Is there a way to make an interesting design for a character from a psychological thriller rather than an action series?
Looking at how well you remade this character is gorgeous. Gameplay wise she was intended to be some kind of "rocket jumper", but clearly - your design resembled this concept way better than OG. P.S: "The golf ball head girl" phrase gave me a doodling idea. Thanks.
The design is amazing yes but the purple pink color is too bright it would be bad for the shooter genre to stand out so brightly and be a massive target, also that kind or bright color is very uncomfortable to look st long term it has a burn in effect quality to it on the eye i feel.
You can have an interesting female character that is flat chested... Think about Jinx from League of Legends. But still Concord designs are just boring and shapeless. And Team Fortress is proof that you don't need much to make characters interesting.
I think an important goal in "redesigning" anything, is to first try to break down the intent, and the appeal of that intent, so that you can reconstruct it. Then, unless you already have a very clear idea of what to do, you do a little research and finally you start building some concepts. I think you were right, about the cat shape, but you then chose to get rid of it, and the new helmet doesn't really resemble anything. Personally, I think the "idea" that the artists maybe initially wanted, and then were told to dumb down and make hyper realistic and not fun looking by comity, was to have a cutesy cartoon animal themed helmet based on a fishbowl shape, and put it on a girl in a skin tight latex suit with a rocket launcher (I think we can all get behind that idea, even if I'm wrong. I think there are hints of it in the original and it's what I think the original idea's appeal is). I think you can get closer to this and add some story elements to her design by adorning her helmet and weapon with cute trinkets/stickers, have her skin suit actually have some branding/logos on it like she's possibly sponsored by a company, and have some collectable keychains etc hanging from parts of her gear. Also lean into that she is wearing a skin tight shiny suit that gives her max mobility, but feel free to add some retro-futuristic looking exoskeleton joints that make her look boosted to justify any super human gameplay feats. The skinsuit should look tight while providing some protection for scrapes from impact if falls etc (maybe it has a hexagonal pattern to make it look like some sort of plated fiber). I think, considering the move-set she has, she'd be better off with a bunny girl theme using a rocket launcher, with visible high heel jet boots that visually serve as thigh high boots with heels. You can even add bunny ears to the helmet, but I'd keep the fishbowl space helmet shape, just make it cuter rather than cooler (the idea I think the artists wanted to execute was likely "cute but dangerous". I think she definitely needs something for her silhouette other than just her fishbowl space helm. Regardless, your design is still way better than the original, but I think it's also a first draft and you didn't have a lot of story to go off of for it so it just feels sorta like a "cooler" version of the same design and tells me nothing about who Roka is or how her gameplay might be, so it still has some of the same problems as the original, unfortunately. Impressive illustration skills though.
12:43 maybe you could add a second source of blue in this design(say the straps on the right legs, or "energy lines" running across the suit). That would give blue another place to be from just finding itself on the top section.
I don't really agree with you giving Roka a bigger chest. 1, her original design is supposed to be agile, and with pretty much no support on her torso, bigger breasts would make it harder and more uncomfortable to move around (realistically speaking) and she would be less agile. 2, her og design is wearing a bodysuit, so you can clearly see that her figure is feminine, even with her being skinny and not that curvy. 3, she can have her og body and still be idolized-beauty standards aren't the same everywhere and for everyone; Smaller chests don't take away from attractiveness/desireablility (if you're not a prawn addict or fretishize curvy women). There are other female characters which have more average-sized chests, not all of them need to have a visible figure.
Sorry to disappoint, but it's just historical and biological reality. It's nothing to do with fetishizing women or being addicted to pron. Idealized women have breasts. It is an inarguable reality of human existence. Not saying a flat chested woman isn't beautiful and sexy and all that fun stuff, and that some people (a very small minority) prefer that. But let's not pretend it is what it isn't. Also, plenty of full breasted women in the Olympics are plenty agile. I didn't give her F-cups. lol
11:39 I like the reptilian look. Don't know if this was intentional but her helmet looks a lot like a snake's head and texture on her armor a lot like scales.
Ribbed for her pleasure 😂 Such a massive improvement over the original, if I saw her now on the character section I'd definitely be interested in playing as her!
The "more armor in one side" does make sense. She uses a heavy rocket launcher, enemies would want to engage her coming from a place that gives them advantage, AKA from the opposite dominant side of her. Hence, she would worry more about protection on the place that she is most vulnerable.
@@BlacklistUniverse I'd be interested in your takes on some of the Apex Legends characters because I think when you talk about silhouettes, they don't do a good job of it sometimes...
I prefer the shape and design you gave the character over the original, the only thing I'd change is the colors, although I don't know what colors I'd choose 🤔
Absolutely amazing! It looks like some sort of underwater diving suit and I almost want to see her with a trident instead of a rocket launcher. Maybe even some female Predator style!
personally I read the "OG" design like a lady bug without wings and would have tried to keep it cute and add some scify bug features of a lady bug like adorable wings and emphasize the mystery of the helmet not showing the face even a bit. The dots on the helmet really reminded me of a bug so why not lean more into it cause bugs are known to fly.
It's appropriate someone who worked on an adaptation of George R. R. Martin's 'The Hedge Knight' is commenting on "current year" character designs from American companies. Real-life Cersei Lannisters took over those companies, and like Cersei, insisted all other women look ugly, because like Cersei, they are ABSOLUTE NARCISSISTS who live in fear "a younger, more beautiful queen will replace [them]!" Anyways, I appreciate the fact you made her look like an adult woman instead of someone who's UNDERAGE, and gave her colors that stand out. My main complaint about her character design, is the dull and interesting colors. She's not wearing a camouflage pattern like a military service woman, she's not wearing bright colors like a daredevil, she just looks like a sanitary worker whom everyone is supposed to ignore!
You could do redesigns of viewer submited characters. There is an endless pool of characters that random people have designed for themselves. D&D characters for example.
Okay, Sony needs to hire you to re-design all of the characters. Whoever the character designer on Concord was, they're an idiot. I don't think the game is cancelled yet. They're just going back to the drawing board to improve it. They'll likely put it out as a free to play and it'll bomb again if someone doesn't save those characters.
Honestly I know guys that could re-skin these characters in a couple weeks. Hire a few of them, it would cost maybe $100K, which is nothing compared to the $150Million they already spent. Welcome to the channel!
i feel space age, or heavy armor is a easy time to have a more androgynous shape, thats what like Metroid dose ( as a reference). but i feel if you cant draw an appealing flatchested/ tomboy character is really limiting your potential :p ( happens alot in anime styled stuff) . overall looks pretty cool though
She's supposed to be able to fly, but nobody will know it because the design sucks in the first place 😂 I bet you didn't know either lol. But well, at least you now have a knock-off Uravity (with same quirk she uses to lift herself off the ground), instead of a mass-produced Super Sentai grunt
one point - I would have given her larger backpack with clearer rocket engine since she's a flying character apparenty (try to figure this by her design tho), still... I feel like this is much better version anyway. Not like it matters anymore
The "ribbing" you're trying to describe is likely what would be called "sectional padding". Like in jackets or coats, it's a layer of padding stitched or "sectioned" by lines so the contents don't bunch up in one spot and go thin on another. Also promotes mobility as each "line" is a bending spot mechanically. The "sectional" part of the term comes from sectional armor, often used to refer to plating you can see on the typical Samurai armor image known as Lamellar armor. Just my take though.
Doesn't really work like that in comics, but I take your point. In comics it was short hand for texture, essentially. 'This is metal', shorthand, basically. It obviously doesn't translate to 'real' world design, you could tell when they made Ironman or Bucky, 'ribbed' metal texture was replaced with more functional tech. But in a lot of characters, it's just texture.
the original design is all silhouette and no details. it's just flat. your redesign fixed that awesomely without being overdesigned (imo) btw what brush/art program do you use? i love the ink lines style. i nominate Daw for the next redesign. challenge is to convey he is a healer and also keep his rotund feature without making it too stand out as his only personality.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm using Procreate on the ipad, and the Gesinki ink brush. Comes standard, and has what i think is a pretty true-to-brush finish. I will get to Daw! I have a couple in the barrel already! And welcome to the channel!
turned what looked like more of a basic enemy npc in a lineup of generic enemies into an amazing looking design. Great work! I would actually want to play this character.
You know, I'm not opposed to small chested women, that being said this redesign is actually amazingly well done. Interestingly on the topic of having to draw characters in comics with so much detail, I think if I remember correctly, that's why Toriyama never really brought back Cell, because he designed him with all those little spots on his body and it was a pain in the ass. Probably the only reason Cell Max was made was because it was CGI so they didn't have to worry about it. I've also never been a fan of overly designed characters, feels like it muddies the overall look and makes everyone too visually similar with no contrast. I think the Mortal Kombat games after 9 are my best example of that. Some designs are fine, others are too uninteresting or don't make the character visually distinct.
I'm not that knowledgeable, but I'm curious. You talked about texture and the time pressure to keep up schedule, so what do you think of the manga system, where they use pre-made textures that they basically stamp on the drawings?
flat chests have a place. but its usually compensated by an extra feminine figure or apparel like a Lolita style dress, and a personality of pure attitude to match.
I thought it can't be fixed... And i was right, you just copied the bare minimum and made something extraordinary of your own If only instead of activists they hired artists like yourself for design This is incredible
hey there! love your redesign for concord characters, they look so much better than the "original" versions. i'm thinking, maybe you could do the same for DAVEERS? she's got the same weird helmet and..well, yikes🥺 or IT-Z, if you don't mind thanks for sharing your mind with us and, again, love your work❤
If Sony decides to make Concord come back for whatever reason, they have SO many redesigns from so many talented people that all look great. They have no excuse to stick to the bland original designs.
Hey, Mike? Something in your post got me curious: Are there any artists you would consider the world's best designers? 🤔 Roka looks awesome, by the way!
The WORLDS best? Oh my, I couldn't tell you... I think Dave Johnson, as much of a prick as he might be, is probably one of the best designers in comics. Joe Maduriera. John Byrne. Masumune Shiro. Those come to mind in comics.
I dunno, I know the original isn't super interesting, but a defining factor of it if anything, would be the large red visor and you didn't even keep that. It looks nice, but It's less of a 'fix', you basically just made an entirely new character in the same pose lol
Honestly, the most interesting part of the original design is that third mechanical arm coming out of the center of her back, holding her rocket launcher. The fact that people can _outright miss that_ shows how much of a failure in execution the original design is.
very fair point. I didn't even know about it. lol. And welcome to the channel!
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There's a WHAT on her back!?😭
A third mechanical arm? So like Viktor from League of Legends?
Holy crap you're right, I never even saw that.
i saw a guy who did a redesign of a few of the characters and he was in finance. he did a better job then then Concord did. it really makes me wonder who in the crap did they get to do the design. How did they do such a bad job? the levels of failure that was needed for this to happen just is astounding.
It is astonishing isn't it? Welcome to the channel!
Design by committee. They even said as much.
When Mike tells you about drawing texture, take him at his word. The guy learned the hard way in his own comic book. And it wasn't a character, it was a wicker chair!😆
The school of hard knox. Wicker version.
🤭 Always have a mind to learn~
Akira Toriyama kept having to learn this lesson. Firstly, making the Super Saiyan form blonde relieved some of the it took to ink all of Goku's hair. Secondly, he learned that giving Cell all those leopard print spots was a mistake.
@@BlacklistUniverse I mean... as a child I learned to repair wicker.... that's not quick or easy either. :D
@@ericbright1742 IIRC, those leopard-print spots were not actually a mistake: they were intentional so he would have a reason to never bring Cell back like he did with Frieza at the beginning of the Android Saga.
its crazy that almost anyone spending 10 minutes can redesign a concord character and it ends up better than the original
Well, these are sped up... 😆
@@BlacklistUniverse If you had to do a quick and dirty edit even if its just changing the colors it can't be worse than the originals
The True Art of Hardwork (true my dude! I bet this guy's basic sketch can outright beat the current Concord Character Design!)
This design is actually sick. I’d even buy a print of it!
wow, thanks! High praise indeed! welcome to the channel!
Funny enough my friend asked me why Concord characters looked so bad and it got me thinking to my first comic book I've ever seen when I moved to US. As a 43 yeard old, I remember it being Xmen drawn by Jim Lee ... I remember thinking "Man this guy has claws coming out of him and this guy in the middle (Cyclops) was really buff and looked like a leader. The women of course were gorgeous (Psylocke and Rogue in there) ... and I realized that most of today's artists probably don't even pick up a comic book these days like we did back in the day since it was our "material" for art and entertainment. And if they do, most of them are always taught to make art that avert's the "male gaze" ... but thats another topic. Compounded with the fact that Saturday morning cartoons are not out anymore and that most "cartoons" these days are just horrible tumblr art like Steven Universe ... I feel like budding artists don't really have much to go by.
There's always the good stuff in the past we can reference for good stuff. Never let your children watch bad animation. Give them a sense of what is good, true, and quality material! And welcome to the channel!
The new design is better but it honestly still doesn't convey the idea that the character is able to fly.
The original design was so bad, I didn’t even realize it was able to fly. I’ll bet this guy didn’t know either. But that’s the fault of the original designers failing to convey their characters’ purpose.
Slam a comically large jetpack and problem fixed
Or why she'd use a rocket launcher.
How many of you noticed her third arm?
@@ericbright1742 Third arm?
And once again way better than the original.
It's got a cool sci-fi vibe, right? I'm glad he left some of the pink in there. It's a good callback 😊👍
See the thing is, as someone who is more into the gritty and more grounded designs, you could make the "idea" of this character work, but what they produced is like a first draft of a super early colour tryout not a final thing. Its just weird.
Very weird. It's like everyone in the company with any sense was afraid to tell whoever was in charge that these designs suck. Welcome to the channel, btw!!!
A whole art team of Concord devs vs bro…. You’re an absolute legend man.
Appreciated!!! Welcome aboard!
This is really something. Her original design makes her look like the kind of bland, nameless, mass-produced grunt character that exists to get shot at or beat up by the main characters, and you've transformed it into something fitting for an actual hero-type. Or at the very least something I and a lot of other people would be happy to play as.
Thanks for the kind words! And welcome to the channel!
@@BlacklistUniverse Add some spiked pauldron and you got a Bandit with a rocket launcher.
Didnt know any of the concord characters just popped in on this to see how good this guy really is. And boy did he make it so much better. Subbed.
I love how the most interaction this game has gotten has been from people flexing by redesigning their awful characters. Also, props for not immediately just defaulting to "bikini babe" like many others do. You can be fully suited up and still look like a woman.
Yeah, I saw that, not really my schtick. Although the next one coming up is a tad on the sexier side... And welcome to the channel!
@@BlacklistUniverse Perfectly fine to have that option, but yeah, not EVERY character needs it.
Dude, I’ve loved your work for so long and you’ve been a huge inspiration to me in the art world.
I had no idea you had a TH-cam channel and instantly subscribed when I checked my Injustice comics and saw your name 😂😂
Thank you so much 😀Glad for a fan to find me after all this time! Welcome to the channel!
2024 new artstyle unlocked : Concord Style
Reminds me of a Cobra Viper trooper. I’m loving it.
Thanks! Glad you like it, welcome to the channel!
@@BlacklistUniversebeen watching for a while, but mostly lurking.
@@hyenafur Well nice to hear from you then. :)
New friends🥳
It also reminds me of a Quarian from Mass Effect
Didn't actually mind a flatter chest/sports bra look, it's just dull. Somebody else added wings/thrusters and made it look really cool. The helmet has a fly/dragonfly wibe to it so it's not THAT bad. It's just that there's nothing else. The rocketlauncher doesn't really make sense for such a nimble character. Wish you would redo it with flying in mind
At this point concord is a test for illustrator/concept artist on how to not design a character and make revisions out of it.
Wow... amazing. I... I shouldn't be impressed as we are talking about a literal professional here but... wow. It's beautiful.
Thank you so much 😀
Professional artists roasting and redesigning concord skins is so satisfying
I would die to know what pens and brushes you use, phenomenal line weight and thickness distributions, you're a solid artist!
I'm on the ipad, using procreate, and the gesinki ink brush. Comes stock, and gives me the best line. Welcome aboard!
@@BlacklistUniverse Ah wow thank you!
I feel like keeping the chest smaller would've given her a more graceful/agile feel which would've been a cool echo to the cat aspect of the helmet. She would have felt more agile imo
The cat aspect of the helmet was barely recognizable, not sure they were literally going for that as motif.
@@BlacklistUniverse No definitely not what they were going for (tho its hard to say what they were going for, period) , but i thought it was what you were trying to lean to in your redesign, hence why imo small > bigger chest in that case but nvm then lmao
To balance this, you could put more emphasis on hips and thighs since she is supposed to be an airborne character. Would better imply that at least she jumps alot.
I was thinking the artist should have given her a primordial pooch for maximum accuracy
I think the thing about her not having breast is because her chest plate thing is supposed to be compressive. They just decided to make it the same color as the rest of the suit. But you can see the line where it’s supposed to end sort of.
You can only compress breast tissue so much... haha. Welcome to the channel!
@@BlacklistUniverse don’t worry I get it. Even with a compressive design it should still have a bump to show that something exist there. Prime example is how mandolorian armor is feminized while still looking militaristic.
You're design is way more beautiful ❤😊
Thank you! Cheers!
When you talked about adding too much detail it really reminded me of reading the end of chapter pages for My Hero Academia.
Horikoshi very often complained about himself going overboard in a design and having to draw that so often.
Also lovely work as always. I rather enjoy the redesign videos. It has helped me revisit some of my older designs. And it pleases my eyes.
Poor fellow -- I hope he was able to fit in a costume change for his characters later in the manga👍
I remember an animator from Disney once saying of character design; "every button costs $10,000" so it was really important to keep designs clean.
Thanks for saying that! I'm glad it's helping people, and that it's enjoyable to watch!!!
Out of all your concord redesing, this one is my favorite ( yet), the original character is just terribly bland and silly with the golf ball head. But you turned it into a super cool looking amphibian, feline alien space suit. Amazing work
Eight years creating Concord and the best they could deliver was that garbage created by a bunch of woke liberals who hate boobs and art. This re-draw was 10 times better then the original character.
thank you. i hope you like the rest as well! Welcome to the channel!
Man this was amazing! It’s so awesome to see how cool these characters could have been if they weren’t designed to be so fugly from get go.
Thank you, it is astonishing that these got through so many gates and made it to launch... And welcome to the channel!
I think their is a way to make character feminine with flat chest.
Hips. Big hips. And legs to match too.
There's feminine and there's idealized. I agree that you can be feminine with a flat chest, but it isn't ideal. :) Welcome to the channel!
Flat or not, this is far better than the original design lol
"I do apologize to our flat chested viewers out there".
1: Why?
2: You follow it up with most of your viewers being male. Are you saying we're fat?
(this second one is a joke)
3: Holy cap, she looks WAY more like a strong combat character by seven and a half minutes in. Nice!
Lol. Thank you. Welcome aboard!
This design goes hard! I’m featuring a redesign of this one as well next week on my channel. These are so fun.
Throw the link up! love to see!
I just subbed to your channel!
@@BlacklistUniverse thanks I did to yours as well.
@@TylerEdlin84 Thank you!
This is just my personal head canon about the character from the few images I have seen of her.
Her asymmetric leg armour combined with the rocket launcher and skinny body made mr think that this character rocket jumps to gain altitude (protected by a downwards facing sci-fi-shield or something), but made a few oopsies along the way and blew some of her body parts off, which were then replaced with futuristic bionics. That would also explain the completely sealed helmet, severe burns DrDoom or Vader style.
Since inclusivity and representation was a selling point of the game they could have used that to represent amputees by going all in on highlighting the prosthetics, such as springy athlete runner blades.
Probably more thought than went into the original design. But good imagination! Welcome aboard!
the original designs helmet was to big for the body shape and just making it smaller and putting armor pieces on the chest, arms and legs to protect vital spots with a body suit under it that show it was armored but still flexible might have worked it would be more feminine but believable future armor.
That would have been an option. Thanks
Nice work Mike! Have you ever done concept art for video games? I thought I'd heard about one or two comic artists that switched over to that career
Yes, I was concept artist for Deus Ex back in 1998/99
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This series is really cool. Would like to see all character designs improved because Concord consisted of only bad to terrible designs. What would be interesting as well is "What makes good character design?" from someone who really knows his stuff. I'm learning a lot from these videos and it neatly shows what not to do and what to do
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Awesome video, and you character is indee much more apealing. IMO you could try to make at least the same palette, trying to make a more direct comparisson but in a more familiar way. I mean, the main characteristic is the red plate visor, and you made it blue, i wouldn't recognize if you tossed it without showing that is a redesign proces, yk? I mean, is really great to go with a more trully redefining aspect, but maybe this could teach us how to make a better palette, maybe changing values or saturation and explaining why? Great video, i'll binge the rest :D
That's a good point, I didn't even try a red visor, It would probably look cool. I'll try and toy with saturation levels in upcoming vides. Thanks, And welcome to the channel!
This was the design I was closest to liking. The overall silhouette reminded me almost of a bootleg Metroid Fusion suit. The way bits of it are asymmetrical makes me think it’s supposed to be a sort of scavenged, thrown together in the heat of the moment kind of thing, but it’s all the same drab ugly greenish color. If they were going for that all of the different parts should have had more vibrant and varied colors to show it didn’t originally go together.
The shoulder pads definitely help the large helmet fit the body better!
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Looking good Golf-Ball Head Girl! I wonder if her and Mike's New Robot are friends? Who to draw next🤔 What about Harley from the new Joker movie? Is there a way to make an interesting design for a character from a psychological thriller rather than an action series?
That's not a bad idea... but tonight... we draw BATMAN!
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Second! A personal best! 🥳
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I love how the end design is lowkey the varia suit from metroid, it's a really solid design.
Looking at how well you remade this character is gorgeous.
Gameplay wise she was intended to be some kind of "rocket jumper", but clearly - your design resembled this concept way better than OG.
P.S: "The golf ball head girl" phrase gave me a doodling idea. Thanks.
lol, love to see it
@@BlacklistUniverse It won't be much, cause I'm absolute hobbyist-amateur ;)
I just came for the soothing experience of watching a pro work
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The design is amazing yes but the purple pink color is too bright it would be bad for the shooter genre to stand out so brightly and be a massive target, also that kind or bright color is very uncomfortable to look st long term it has a burn in effect quality to it on the eye i feel.
I could see it desaturated. Thanks for the input! Welcome to the channel!
You can have an interesting female character that is flat chested... Think about Jinx from League of Legends. But still Concord designs are just boring and shapeless. And Team Fortress is proof that you don't need much to make characters interesting.
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I think an important goal in "redesigning" anything, is to first try to break down the intent, and the appeal of that intent, so that you can reconstruct it. Then, unless you already have a very clear idea of what to do, you do a little research and finally you start building some concepts. I think you were right, about the cat shape, but you then chose to get rid of it, and the new helmet doesn't really resemble anything.
Personally, I think the "idea" that the artists maybe initially wanted, and then were told to dumb down and make hyper realistic and not fun looking by comity, was to have a cutesy cartoon animal themed helmet based on a fishbowl shape, and put it on a girl in a skin tight latex suit with a rocket launcher (I think we can all get behind that idea, even if I'm wrong. I think there are hints of it in the original and it's what I think the original idea's appeal is).
I think you can get closer to this and add some story elements to her design by adorning her helmet and weapon with cute trinkets/stickers, have her skin suit actually have some branding/logos on it like she's possibly sponsored by a company, and have some collectable keychains etc hanging from parts of her gear. Also lean into that she is wearing a skin tight shiny suit that gives her max mobility, but feel free to add some retro-futuristic looking exoskeleton joints that make her look boosted to justify any super human gameplay feats. The skinsuit should look tight while providing some protection for scrapes from impact if falls etc (maybe it has a hexagonal pattern to make it look like some sort of plated fiber). I think, considering the move-set she has, she'd be better off with a bunny girl theme using a rocket launcher, with visible high heel jet boots that visually serve as thigh high boots with heels.
You can even add bunny ears to the helmet, but I'd keep the fishbowl space helmet shape, just make it cuter rather than cooler (the idea I think the artists wanted to execute was likely "cute but dangerous". I think she definitely needs something for her silhouette other than just her fishbowl space helm.
Regardless, your design is still way better than the original, but I think it's also a first draft and you didn't have a lot of story to go off of for it so it just feels sorta like a "cooler" version of the same design and tells me nothing about who Roka is or how her gameplay might be, so it still has some of the same problems as the original, unfortunately. Impressive illustration skills though.
12:43 maybe you could add a second source of blue in this design(say the straps on the right legs, or "energy lines" running across the suit). That would give blue another place to be from just finding itself on the top section.
I don't really agree with you giving Roka a bigger chest. 1, her original design is supposed to be agile, and with pretty much no support on her torso, bigger breasts would make it harder and more uncomfortable to move around (realistically speaking) and she would be less agile. 2, her og design is wearing a bodysuit, so you can clearly see that her figure is feminine, even with her being skinny and not that curvy. 3, she can have her og body and still be idolized-beauty standards aren't the same everywhere and for everyone; Smaller chests don't take away from attractiveness/desireablility (if you're not a prawn addict or fretishize curvy women). There are other female characters which have more average-sized chests, not all of them need to have a visible figure.
Sorry to disappoint, but it's just historical and biological reality. It's nothing to do with fetishizing women or being addicted to pron. Idealized women have breasts. It is an inarguable reality of human existence. Not saying a flat chested woman isn't beautiful and sexy and all that fun stuff, and that some people (a very small minority) prefer that. But let's not pretend it is what it isn't.
Also, plenty of full breasted women in the Olympics are plenty agile. I didn't give her F-cups. lol
That helmet, sir, is TOP notch. Feels like i've never seen it done like that before, looks viper-like or something..?
11:39 I like the reptilian look. Don't know if this was intentional but her helmet looks a lot like a snake's head and texture on her armor a lot like scales.
Ribbed for her pleasure 😂
Such a massive improvement over the original, if I saw her now on the character section I'd definitely be interested in playing as her!
Glad you agree! I won't comment on the ribbing... Welcome to the channel!
The "more armor in one side" does make sense. She uses a heavy rocket launcher, enemies would want to engage her coming from a place that gives them advantage, AKA from the opposite dominant side of her. Hence, she would worry more about protection on the place that she is most vulnerable.
Like how jousting armor had more armor on their shield side. I get ya. Welcome to the channel!
Original looks like she got her head stuck in a Jigsaw trap and just got a bigger helmet for it.
hell yeahhh loved the video and great artwork! listening to you it's clear you have an expert understanding of design! look forward to new videos
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@@BlacklistUniverse I'd be interested in your takes on some of the Apex Legends characters because I think when you talk about silhouettes, they don't do a good job of it sometimes...
Off hand I'd say they took the helmet shape/design from the Killzone 2 Helghast Heavy, stripping away the heavy thick padding though. Just a thought.
I prefer the shape and design you gave the character over the original, the only thing I'd change is the colors, although I don't know what colors I'd choose 🤔
Thank you, that is why I tried to run through a few variations at the end. What I like won't be what everyone else likes! And welcome to the channel!
Absolutely amazing! It looks like some sort of underwater diving suit and I almost want to see her with a trident instead of a rocket launcher. Maybe even some female Predator style!
That would be cool!
personally I read the "OG" design like a lady bug without wings and would have tried to keep it cute and add some scify bug features of a lady bug like adorable wings and emphasize the mystery of the helmet not showing the face even a bit. The dots on the helmet really reminded me of a bug so why not lean more into it cause bugs are known to fly.
That's a fun idea! Look how everyone has great ideas, except Sony... lol Welcome to the channel!
It's appropriate someone who worked on an adaptation of George R. R. Martin's 'The Hedge Knight' is commenting on "current year" character designs from American companies. Real-life Cersei Lannisters took over those companies, and like Cersei, insisted all other women look ugly, because like Cersei, they are ABSOLUTE NARCISSISTS who live in fear "a younger, more beautiful queen will replace [them]!"
Anyways, I appreciate the fact you made her look like an adult woman instead of someone who's UNDERAGE, and gave her colors that stand out. My main complaint about her character design, is the dull and interesting colors. She's not wearing a camouflage pattern like a military service woman, she's not wearing bright colors like a daredevil, she just looks like a sanitary worker whom everyone is supposed to ignore!
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You could do redesigns of viewer submited characters. There is an endless pool of characters that random people have designed for themselves. D&D characters for example.
Okay, Sony needs to hire you to re-design all of the characters. Whoever the character designer on Concord was, they're an idiot. I don't think the game is cancelled yet. They're just going back to the drawing board to improve it. They'll likely put it out as a free to play and it'll bomb again if someone doesn't save those characters.
Honestly I know guys that could re-skin these characters in a couple weeks. Hire a few of them, it would cost maybe $100K, which is nothing compared to the $150Million they already spent. Welcome to the channel!
The game was cancelled last week ( maybe 2 weeks ago actually) and servers are already down.
First character redesign already looks like something I would be all over playing. She looks like a Cobra themed Doom girl!
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i feel space age, or heavy armor is a easy time to have a more androgynous shape, thats what like Metroid dose ( as a reference). but i feel if you cant draw an appealing flatchested/ tomboy character is really limiting your potential :p ( happens alot in anime styled stuff) . overall looks pretty cool though
I 'can' draw flat chested girls. But do i really want to, is the question... lol Welcome to the channel!
She's supposed to be able to fly, but nobody will know it because the design sucks in the first place 😂
I bet you didn't know either lol. But well, at least you now have a knock-off Uravity (with same quirk she uses to lift herself off the ground), instead of a mass-produced Super Sentai grunt
I didn't know. Nothing about her design implied that. lol. Welcome to the channel!
actually a very interesting design , easy on the eyes as well !
one point - I would have given her larger backpack with clearer rocket engine since she's a flying character apparenty (try to figure this by her design tho), still... I feel like this is much better version anyway. Not like it matters anymore
I definitely need to do more research into the characters so I can draw out their utility in the design. Thanks for the input! Welcome to the channel!
You are the first designer re-designign concord characters that actually makes a fantastic job doing it. How much time it took you??
Varies on the subject. Details take time.
The "ribbing" you're trying to describe is likely what would be called "sectional padding". Like in jackets or coats, it's a layer of padding stitched or "sectioned" by lines so the contents don't bunch up in one spot and go thin on another. Also promotes mobility as each "line" is a bending spot mechanically. The "sectional" part of the term comes from sectional armor, often used to refer to plating you can see on the typical Samurai armor image known as Lamellar armor. Just my take though.
Doesn't really work like that in comics, but I take your point. In comics it was short hand for texture, essentially. 'This is metal', shorthand, basically. It obviously doesn't translate to 'real' world design, you could tell when they made Ironman or Bucky, 'ribbed' metal texture was replaced with more functional tech. But in a lot of characters, it's just texture.
the original design is all silhouette and no details. it's just flat. your redesign fixed that awesomely without being overdesigned (imo)
btw what brush/art program do you use? i love the ink lines style.
i nominate Daw for the next redesign. challenge is to convey he is a healer and also keep his rotund feature without making it too stand out as his only personality.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm using Procreate on the ipad, and the Gesinki ink brush. Comes standard, and has what i think is a pretty true-to-brush finish. I will get to Daw! I have a couple in the barrel already! And welcome to the channel!
turned what looked like more of a basic enemy npc in a lineup of generic enemies into an amazing looking design. Great work! I would actually want to play this character.
Thank you very much!
ya'll should look at amari's concept art way back before sbi went into concord
You know, I'm not opposed to small chested women, that being said this redesign is actually amazingly well done.
Interestingly on the topic of having to draw characters in comics with so much detail, I think if I remember correctly, that's why Toriyama never really brought back Cell, because he designed him with all those little spots on his body and it was a pain in the ass. Probably the only reason Cell Max was made was because it was CGI so they didn't have to worry about it.
I've also never been a fan of overly designed characters, feels like it muddies the overall look and makes everyone too visually similar with no contrast. I think the Mortal Kombat games after 9 are my best example of that. Some designs are fine, others are too uninteresting or don't make the character visually distinct.
You're not the only person to point that out! Welcome to the channel!
excellent work always!
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I'm not that knowledgeable, but I'm curious. You talked about texture and the time pressure to keep up schedule, so what do you think of the manga system, where they use pre-made textures that they basically stamp on the drawings?
flat chests have a place. but its usually compensated by an extra feminine figure or apparel like a Lolita style dress, and a personality of pure attitude to match.
Amazing work sir. You are a legend
Thanks!
I'd really love to see the "aliens" redesigned to look less human and more original.
The alien characters in the game? Just wait! Welcome to the channel!
This is a great improvement, from an "I just made it cause they pay me" to an actual space kinda design and a better one at that.
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I thought it can't be fixed...
And i was right, you just copied the bare minimum and made something extraordinary of your own
If only instead of activists they hired artists like yourself for design
This is incredible
Thank you! I did what I could! :D Welcome to the channel!
OML The shading it great.
Thank you so much! I'm kind of self-conscious about my coloring, so I'm glad to hear that. And welcome to the channel!
hey there! love your redesign for concord characters, they look so much better than the "original" versions. i'm thinking, maybe you could do the same for DAVEERS? she's got the same weird helmet and..well, yikes🥺
or IT-Z, if you don't mind
thanks for sharing your mind with us and, again, love your work❤
I was planning on doing Bazz today, but I'll do one of those tomorrow!
a amazing beautiful Redesigns ❤
FIRST BABY!!!
Old faithful...
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The final design gives me cobra command vibes from GI-JOE
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😲 that's an improvement 👏
That was the goal!
Game circled the drain harder than bad tacobell
If Sony decides to make Concord come back for whatever reason, they have SO many redesigns from so many talented people that all look great. They have no excuse to stick to the bland original designs.
I wouldn't mind if they paid me. Haha. Welcome to the channel!
Pretty dope redesign.
Superior version. Nuff said. 8)
Hey, Mike? Something in your post got me curious: Are there any artists you would consider the world's best designers?
🤔 Roka looks awesome, by the way!
The WORLDS best? Oh my, I couldn't tell you... I think Dave Johnson, as much of a prick as he might be, is probably one of the best designers in comics. Joe Maduriera. John Byrne. Masumune Shiro. Those come to mind in comics.
Honestly i like the form of the original more. Just the colors were bad
I like this trend, redesigning concord characters
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Awesome!
Thanks!
I dunno, I know the original isn't super interesting, but a defining factor of it if anything, would be the large red visor and you didn't even keep that.
It looks nice, but It's less of a 'fix', you basically just made an entirely new character in the same pose lol
Looks awesome!
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There's no comparison. This demonstrates the massive difference between a professional and a DIE hire.
Appreciate that!!!
To be fair, Roka probably had one of the easiest designs to fix while maintaining her original concept. Rad redesign nonetheless. :)
She is practically a blank slate. Welcome to the channel!
the design & shape of the helmet alone is a 100 times more inspired than her regular, bland "astronaut" look.
Was not a fan of the golf ball head... welcome to the channel!
You made her a Power Ranger
Good job.
Watch this video was very therapeutic!!!
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@@BlacklistUniverse thanks, I just subscribed. Keep up the awesome work