Virgin edgeshot: is a nobody, he wasn't even a character, does a heroic speech dies to save a already dead kid which might still die because of all his other injuries Chad crush: saves aizawa instead of himself, only had a lil few lines, dies
The worst thing about all of this is that it took a whoooole year for this cliffhanger to resolve, and THEY'RE BOTH ALIVE! What the absolute FFFFFFFFFFFFF... Hahahaha. Still, I won a pretty long term bet due to this.
I know it's not gonna happen, but I would pay for Bakugo's body to reject the fake heart. Medical rejection is a big problem with transplants, and Edgeshot is literally putting all his cells in Bakugo's body and expecting his heart to beat again. Frankly, it should be a medical disaster. Sure it'll work out at this point, but it shouldn't.
@@diamonshade7484 right but that's like 10% of the massive problem here. Sure they might have a compatible blood type, but they don't have compatible *bodies* You literally can't just slap a new lung into someone and expect it to work perfectly. Even compatible organs can be rejected by a body.
Horikoshi's story is suffering from "Season 8 Game of Thrones syndrome"... The saddest part about it though? He's seeing all this happen in real time and refuses to stop and pull it for resets and rewrites. It could be possible and should have been done many chapters ago, but his radio silence tells me three things: 1. He's over the fandom and doesn't care if he pisses it off 2. He's over MHA in general 3. He is more than willing to troll the fans while he destroys his creation (and probably his writing career let's be honest). No spoilers for AoT but... that ending left much to be desired--HOWEVER it made sense for the narrative.... in some ways. That's really all I ask for a finale. Is that too much to ask for?? What is going to happen to MHA? Well... have you guys ever watched Game of Thrones....?
Or his health issues are really serious and wants to give us closure, so that we don't get the Berserk treatment. Whatever the reason is, I still dislike the way things are going
Honestly with how his health has been at times, how overworked and so on due to his series hitting popularity so early on....its more than likely he desperately wants to be over and done with this series. He's spent almost a decade on this series that it more than likely burnt him out completely As much as the writing has gotten worse. I don't think he is a bad writer by any means considering the beginning arcs and series had to say. Its just seems he's no longer interested in writing bnha anymore.
Honestly it feels more like yuyu Hakusho to me - nearly the same story with the writer, too. Story made it BIG early on and shonnen jump started pushing really hard for more and more and more content. The insane hours to pump out work + the pressure and demand from the fans wears on your health and eventually you just want to move on with your life. An a fan it's disappointing to see a story end sloppily but as an artist who'd already cashed more than enough paychecks and is probably dreaming of a nice long vacation and a million OTHER projects?? 120% relatable.
My biggest problem with this whole thing is that I don't see the point of bringing Bakugo back at all when it comes to the story. Like ok he's a popular character but within the story, why is it that they need to bring back Bakugo specifically out of everyone who has died in this battle? He has failed against Shigaraki already so what does bringing him back now will contribute to the fight at hand? Is Bakugo supposed to be the main part of a plan or something and they couldn't afford to let him die because of it? Also if Edgeshot can get inside people's bodies and mess with their organs, why doesn't he just infiltrate Shigaraki and try to kill him from inside out? To me that sounds like a safer bet on winning than just reviving Bakugo and a better way to sacrifice himself. Maybe I'm missing something because I'm not invested in this series anymore and I just skim through the chapters to stay up to date with the overall story so I'd appreciate some clarity in this matter in case anyone would like to enlighten me.......
6:10 funny part is that before the Edgeshot thing there were some online thinking something like this would happen with Mawata Fuwa(aka that single 2-A student Hori showed awhile back.)
Can we just give credit to one of the most nonsensical lines? "This stopped heart belongs to a life we can ill afford to lose." Like, what? Edgeshot, you are a hero with years of experience and hundreds of saved lives under your belt. You have trained probably most of your life, have moved up the hero rankings, and even helped in the rescue operation of this same child. What on God's green earth ever gave you the impression that this dumpster fire of a human being that has slowly changed into a campfire is somehow a life you could and should sacrifice your own for? What events led you to this asinine conclusion?
You’re thinking too rationally about it. He’s a hero, and he sees someone whose life he can save. That’s all it really needs to be. He’s not doing a cost benefit analysis I’m his head, because that’s not what being a hero is about
@@wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY Thats not the point, the point is of all people he does this on, why Bakugo of all characters? This guy has definitely seen a fair share of death before, why is this the one he suddenly wants to end it all for?
Was this not obvious? At the time Bakugo was the only one there who could damage Shigaraki. He’s still has the burn from Howitzer Impact. Yeah it’s dogshit but I thought that part was pretty clear.
@@Jaymizubandyou're telling between a guy who can no clip on command A kaiju with a lazer and stomachache posing as an introvert And a plucky girl who could drown you in a river of her own life force Can't seem to do as much damage as a doughnut dipped in nitroglycerin Might I add those 3 were comparable to pro heroes and even the no 1 hero and are the top of not just their class but the entire f*cking school Can't seem to damage shigaraki Yeah I'm calling bull
As a writer i find it utterly stupid that mangakas find it THAT hard to just make even the slightest backstory for a side character. Why is it that every last pinch of development goes to people that have ties with the main character or ARE a main character? it would be so much more fufilling and satisfying if we saw more outside of that cast, but apparently that is just too difficult
This shows that edgeshot was all an plot device... plot devices can be used to make an story progress, espcially for mangakas who aren't good at writing but even before this arc,, it should've played our different so that it would've been believed for the readers. But horikoshi is doing this weekly while he planned mha to be way shorter than this, so yeh..
@@KIKAN_THE_RAT i do read better mangas actually, hxh, berserk, vagabond, chainsaw man and all that, mha was just one of my favourites back in grade 6 so it sucks to see it fall from grace
Edge shot pulled up and said EdgeShot: Don't worry, I'll turn into his heart and I will die. Backugo: EdgeShot: Tell my family I loved them Backugo: EdgeShot: 🫀
I think the series fell off as soon as Star and Stripe came in. Was it hype? Uh, yeah she was cool. But like...it barely made sense why the most OP hero in the world gets introduced to just be capped for no reason? And how her powers worked made little sense? Honestly, MHA is that Shonen series that gave itself too much to work with. A lesson to Shonen creators: please pace yourself. Pull a chainsaw man or Tokyo Ghoul and take a big break to think of the plot.
I don't know, I like the take some others have made that Edgeshot's sacrifice encapsulates the overarching theme of the old heroes paving the way for the new generation. That's just me.
Agreed. I also liked how his initial “death” encapsulated the failures of the previous generation too. Right now, he should be about to enter the second year. He should have discovered the technique that (would have) killed him in a controlled and safe environment. A battle, or training session, where stakes are incredibly low compared to a fight where humanity is on the line. He should have had the guidance of his mentors to slowly build up the technique and his body after its discovery to make it into a safe and powerful combat skill. Instead, thanks to the previous generation failing, he’s been pushed into a real battlefield in place of the experienced heroes that should be there. Two full years early. Instead of having the time to develop his powers, he’s been pushed into the most intense battle in the history of hero society. In the moment of stress, he discovered that technique and let it all out with zero control because if he held back, everyone could die. Leading to his death, which could have been avoided had he discovered the technique in the way he should have. I guess Edgeshot’s sacrifice could be seen as the older generation trying to make up for those mistakes, but there’s still a price they have to pay. I don’t personally have a problem with this specific arc going on at the moment or the way Bakugo is handled. I think I would have liked it either way. Bakugo’s arc would have ended early in a way that makes sense, even if he hadn’t achieved his goals or reached his full potential. I would have been a bit disappointed, but he would have died a true hero, sacrificing himself for others. But I’m glad he’ll get a chance to (hopefully) reach that potential and (hopefully) get a major moment of triumph. I can understand why people don’t like fakeout deaths, especially if they’re used to seeing them over and over.
It does do that but... It's pointless. For you to build a moment like that, in a history, it needs to come from someone important. A constrast I could give os Crust's death. He sacrificed himself for Aizawa, but he was just that, a small foil to showcase us how those heroes are ready to sacrifice themselves for the "greater good" if it'll give them a chance of victory. But this Edgeshot moment is bad at doing this cause, you have Jeanist there. Someone with an actual connection to Bakugou which would've made this moment feel more meaningful Or, if Edgeshot was indeed an actual character with a personality, backstory, connections and screentime. Yrah, it can be thematically accurate, and we could even say it representa the theme, but it doesn't change the fact it was bad written and a waste of a character. It came out of nowhere, at the cost of using a character who would encapsulate this moment much better
The fact that Horikoshi also refuses to permanently injure or kill any important character that isn’t a woman, it is also pretty fucking weird. Midnight is dead, Mirko lost three limbs, very recently another very important, female character died. Curious died. Meanwhile the only male character of importance that actually bit it is Twice.
I mean, Twice dying is far more impactful and important than all these character deaths combined even the "important female character". If you want to use Midnight or Curious you should use Nigtheye or Crust too. Mirko lost 3 limbs but there are other characters who also lost limbs or got heavy injuries. Compress lost one of his arms, Overhaul lost both of them, Re-Destro lost his legs, Hawks lost his wings and later his quirk, Endeavor lost an arm, Dabi is burning to the point that he's bones, Iida's brother is in a wheelchair and can not use his quirk, Bakugo's beatdown and "death", Aizawa lost his leg and cannot use his quirk, etc.
I was hoping Bakugo would actually die since his arc is complete and his death would have a profound impact on Midoriya. At the very least, I'm hoping they'll kill off a member of Class 1-A, and Bakugo seemed like the perfect candidate.
Reading your comment, I don't think his arc is complete. I think it will be complete when he realises and accepts that his power will never be at par with OFA and becoming a good hero is more important than being the no 1 hero🤔
That's how I felt. Is the Edgeshot thing stupid? Sure, but it's SO much better than killing Bakugo in that way. It had to be one of the worst character deaths I've ever seen. It accomplished nothing and went COMPLETELY against Bakugo as a character and MHA as a whole and would have proved Vigilante Deku right.
@@thirstquencher4631 you talking like that is his fault lol. If you were in his place you would be doing it any better. Dude, he is a child, their deaths had nothing to do with him. Actually, he never killed a single person lol. Bakugou was the only person in that battlefield who was able to scratch Shigaraki, without him Deku would be dead and he would still be going rougue. You are a hater, its cute.
It's so weird too, we see Bakugou a good amount...but seldom is it for character progression. He's more like a weapon than a character, shit needs to get done but theres no time for glittery flashback or introspection? Throw in the coded sociopath, because let's be honest...
@@quesproductions7170 OK. Did any of you read the story?@ bakugo grew and matured with each arc he appeared in. Near the end of villain hunt he apologised to Deku for being a jerk! Look at the current arc, he told Jeanist to look after the others showumh his concern for them. He took a bullet 4 Deku and almost died due to Izuku being a RECKLESS idiot. And yet you guys call Bakugo RECKLESS?! LookI hate MHA right now but unlike you blind fools I still remember the things it got right in the past, like the great character arc for Bakugo. And yet you guys are letting you hatred of the series blind you and ignore shit that clearly happened in the story.
To be honest, Bakugo's _death_ was the most shocking yet bittersweet and beautiful at the same time. Imagine a character filled with ego and hatred towards Deku from the very beginning until it shows his soft side in which his simple wish is to let All Might sign his limited edition hero card which he got during childhood. Of course, I already expected that he will revived. *But not on this way* . Feels like I'm re-reading Tsubasa Chronicles manga again. 🙄
I hope this isn’t a way to set up Bakugo becoming more powerful and playing a big role in the defeat of Afo and Shigaraki, but I’m afraid it will be something like that. Like edgeshot made him immortal or something by healing every injury he sustains. And maybe to make things more dramatic Bakugo will save the world with edgeshot’s help and then die. I can totally imagine edgeshot’s will living on and making Bakugo so strong for all the horny fangirls that want to see him shine.
Bakugo is my favorite character in the series and this set of chapters made me feel so livid that i went on a 30 minute rant to my wife and then wrote a better ending to the series than Hortikoshi. I thought his death was fantastically written and so beautiful. And then i looked at the set up and i became convinced that it was merely a publicity stunt by the author to get more clicks. He did it as the cliffhanger to a 2 week serialization break. Everything about it screams publicity stunt and i couldnt be more angry. Im only reading the series at this point due to the sunk cost fallacy since ive gone through the other 368 chapters whats another 20 in the grand scheme of things. What was one of my favorite series 2 years ago has now fallen from grace and be come merely another mid shounen.
-Bakugo gets random, yet interesting power up -Uses it for all of 2 pages before getting punked -Heart explodes, but it's not clear whether it's from his quirk or the punch(why would a punch explode a heart) -"I will become the boy's heart" -Bakugo loses again, because he's still not any stronger than 5 seconds ago. This chapter is only the cherry on top. This entire Bakugo death sequence has been laughable.
Well, yeah. Katsuki already used everything he got. So how would his revive help anything? Unless... the protagonist Mary Sue will arrive at the moment and defeat Shigaraki.
This "His heart exploded dude" is very stupid to me. I read and re-read that chapter over and over again and nothing about it indicates that it *exploded* like everybody says it did. "oH bUt HiS qUiRk AwAkEnInG" yeah, but the last shot we see of his heart it wasnt exploded, his was getting pierced not exploding.
This series survives on fake out drama. Death in this series is taken as serious as it is in Dragon Ball Z; as in even when a character "dies" they are LITERALLY waiting to go back. And my big question is why are there no other healing Quirks in this show besides Recovery Girl? Why wasn't there a healer on the sidelines tending to the wounded heroes so they can continue fighting far longer and more effectively? Of ALL the Quirks in this whole show the most useful ones are relegated to a SINGLE individual while other Quirks like Fire and Ice are handed around the community like Hot Cakes! It doesn't show importance to the characters who have these one time only powers, it shows lazy writing that the story can't accommodate more than one person having such useful, powerful, and important abilities.
oh this development was bizarre and out of left field for sure. I will STRETCH myself for this, just a moment. Have Jeanist do the stitching, have him struggle with the pain of using his best friend's life and body to revive his protege. THAT could be some emotional development for the story...if it were going to stick around for like 3 more arcs so we could do something with it X)
MHA is really falling apart at the finishing line. I went from eagerly reading every chapter as they get released to only coming back every few dozen chapters. Some fans of the series will defend the story no matter how bad it is, but in my opinion, Horikoshi has completely squandered the good will and potential of the series. I don't know why, but it is true. I'm so glad this channel isn't mindlessly praising MHA the same way so many others are.
If the person sacrificing themself was someone we cared about like all might or something then the death would have still mattered and had impact. Instead it was pointless and might as well of just not happened. I'm really hoping that something happens to make this not awful but I'm not optimistic. Reading My Hero the last couple of years has honestly reminded me of watching the end of Game of Thrones sometimes. It was so good for like 70% of it's runtime and then just landed on it's face in the final act.
well pain arc main theme was overarching ur past...nagato was basically a naruto who didnt make it and 99% of the reanimated ppl were randoms...we didnt knew the full extent of the rinnegan but if he can manipulate fkn dead bodies it can even do shit like reviving the dead and nagato sacrificed himself for the sake of naruto idea of peace which was different from nagato but was the same goal so it wasnt for nothing...plus kakashi needed his moments with obito in the war arc
@@mihal1570 I think it's worse but go off, reviving a ton of characters ranging from significantly important to unimportant feels like more of a cop-out than one relevant character.
If Jeanist had decided to pull off that stunt then MAYBE I would have overlooked it but this author is such a coward... I was weary of the writing the moment the story introduced a normal kid who was using his will, courage and wits in a world full of super humans to then just have the story give him the strongest power. Skipping over two great opportunities to kill off Allmight, skipping over a great chance to kill off Gran Torino and then this... it's a wonder how likeable some of the characters are with how bad this dude is at writing.
Something I else I dislike is that the majority of relatively "relevant" pro heroes have come from UA. We've NEVER gotten a backstory for Edgeshot, and now him and Jeanist are both from UA... with the exception of Fatgum, all heroes who serve a certain purpose to the story come from UA. I know that from a narrative perspective it makes sense, it being the best Hero school and whatnot, but it feels a bit lazy since there are so many hero schools Horikoshi has come up with, hell it would also bring about a good moral being "it doesn't matter where you got educated, what matters is how hard you work". Unfortunately, another missed opportunity
I have read a lot of Mangas, some seriously weird shit, but this is something else. This is some "Honey, I shrunk the kids and have them revive someone.... from the inside" shit that they just simply pulled out of their arse. And yes, it's about heroism and shit, but the sacrifice of a nobody serves no purpose at all, there is no attachment to the character of Edgeshot, it would have been a lot more impactful if a classmate or all might would sacrifice themselves for Bakugo to live, but edgeshot of all the people serves no purpose for the story and the reader. The longer the final arc is dragging on, the worse it gets, you can tell it's rushed.
Here’s a summary of my thoughts on the Bakugo situation: People are criticizing the fact he’s coming back BEFORE it’s even happened. It’s like when people were upset about Hagakure being “revealed” as the traitor, when the VERY next chapter made those same people do a complete 180. Not saying he won’t come back (I think that if he has to die, which he still could by the end, this was not a proper sendoff for the character), but anything could happen between now and then. Maybe the method their using will fail due to outside influence (Shigaraki), and the way he is brought back might be more costly than this, like Jeanist dying for instance. And most Shounen series have done this before, and sometimes even more than once. So WHY does MHA have to be criticized more for doing the exact same thing? Also, I think it’s handling the “fake death” thing so much better than most series. Usually a character is brought back suddenly with little to no explanation, or we’re given the explanation AFTER they’re revived. Here, they’ve outright told us that they intend to bring him back and how they intend to do it, so it’s much less of a deus ex machina. And again, I think he deserves a much better death than this. The perfect end for him Ivan imagine is that he dies at the end in Deku’s arms and we get our sad goodbye seen for them and anyone else that matters. And if All Might ends up dying like Nighteye predicted, Deku will sign Bakugo’s card in his place. People are just far too desperate for bloodshed and death. Newsflash, that’s not what this series is about. And the stakes ARE still there. Just because some people aren’t dying doesn’t mean they can’t. I mean, Bakugo technically DID die, quite easily I might add, and it’s costing the life of another hero to bring him back.
The problem is that no one believed for a minute that he was dead, since it was so poorly executed, and the return has no weight. There is essentially no point to having him die in the first place; it has changed nothing.
@@wesuckatgames9549 but again, it hasn’t happened yet. The “execution” hasn’t been fully shown, and the reason for killing him could be revealed later.
Most of your points don't make sense. But let me try to argue against them. - It’s like when people were upset about Hagakure being “revealed” as the traitor, when the VERY next chapter made those same people do a complete 180 - This is terrible since you are admitting that Horikoshi loves to manipulate the audience and in the end laugh in their faces. And instead of creating interesting moments with those manipulations, they are totally unnecessary. The Hagakure thing is a clear example of that. What was the point of making the audience believe that Hagakure would be the traitor? Horikoshi did it because he wanted to and because he doesn't care if the audience looks like idiots. - Maybe the method their using will fail due to outside influence (Shigaraki), and the way he is brought back might be more costly than this, like Jeanist dying for instance. - If that is going to happen then why make this unnecessary chapter? - And like you said, most Shounen serie have done this before, and sometimes even more than once. So WHY does MHA have to be criticized more for doing the exact same thing? - This is so stupid. Using that logic any criticism towards MHA would be meaningless. A) Izuku is a bad protagonist - well other shonen also have a bad protagonist. B) Bakugo is poorly developed - well other shonen also has poorly developed characters. C) The supporting characters are useless - other shonen also make the supporting characters useless. D) Izuku got 7 quirks out of nowhere - other shonen also gives away powers to their main characters. Literally, any criticism can be evaded with "Other shonen do it too". At the end of the series, Horikoshi is going to reveal an alien as the final villain of MHA and no one will be able to criticize him because other shonen does it. - Usually a character is brought back suddenly with little to no explanation, or we’re given the explanation AFTER they’re revived. - And that is known as bad writing since the writer is inventing things that he did not establish before to try to give coherence to something that does not make sense. - Here, they’ve outright told us that they intend to bring him back and how they intend to do it, so it’s much less of a deus ex machina. - Telling us how it will happen does not change the fact that it is a Deux Machina. EX: Izuku dies at the end of the series. Shigaraki manages to cut off his head but guess what Sero is nearby and Sero reveals to us that he has a secret ability that allows him to use his tape to attach Izuku's head to his body and revive him. Even though they tell us how they will save Izuku it is still ridiculous. - I mean, Bakugo technically DID die, quite easily I might add, and it’s costing the life of another hero to bring him back. - The fact that the character who is dying is the least important of all the battlefield really tells us how little it matters. EX: Izuku dies but in the end, Koda sacrifices himself so that Izuku can be revived. And saying that "someone" died in exchange for reviving Izuku. - And again, I think he deserves a much better death than this. The perfect end for him Ivan imagine is that he dies at the end in Deku’s arms and we get our sad goodbye seen for them and anyone else that matters. - You are really speaking from your emotions and not from logic. The only reason this doesn't bother you is because you didn't like Bakugo's death. But I'm going to ask you a question. If Bakugo died the way you describe and one chapter later he is revived because Koda sacrifices himself for him, would you like it?
i haven't had a good laugh in a while 💀 hori's writing has been disappointed me for a long time, frankly after the first war arc, but man edgeshot becoming bakugou's heart is a new low. it was SOOOO out of place, if they wanted an adult saving bakugo why tf wouldn't best jeanist just do it 💀 ?? like it's sooooo bizarre because he's never been relevant to bakugou like ever so why did he need to be the one to save him? i love bakugou and i don't think that he should die, but man im more pissed that THIS is why he's alive like ??? i don't think if he died now it would be optimal for his character development, but i could understand and i could even accept it. it would be a little rushed, but if he died, it would be okay because he's actually important in the series, so his death would actually mean something. edgeshot having this big moment with absolutely ZERO setup, it's just weird. like it's so obvious that horikoshi has lost his balls for actually letting his characters have consequences for a while now, but man this is some real bs that he's trying to make us accept. i would've rather had bakugou die permanently than this bs moment 💀 literally anything could've happened and that would've been better than this and like i get it, bnha hasn't been kind to horikoshi. not only shtty shippers, but it's also dunked on by a lot of other hardcore shounen bros. this series is SO much longer than he ever planned for, and that's pretty evident when he said he planned it to end in like 20 vols at one point. making a manga in general is just so demanding for weekly authors, so not only mentally, i know he's probably suffering physically as well. and even though i know all of this, i'm still disappointed man. this just isn't the BNHA that i fell in love with 4 years ago. he's tired of the series, i'm tired of the series, i think everyone is tired of the series. at this point, i think we're all just waiting for the end of it to see how this whole story fits together. i highly doubt it will satisfy any of us, but if it does, by god call horikoshi one of the best. but again, with how this series is going, it doesn't look likely 💀
Something else people don't take into account... Bakugou was lying there for a solid minute or more. His heart exploded so nothing is pumping blood through his body, his lungs cant work, therefore not only is he bleeding out (which if a major artery is cut you bleed out in under a few minutes MUCH LESS A HEART) but now his organs aren't getting their oxygen... which leads to organ shutting down. Wanna know what else isn't getting oxygen? His brain. If the brain is deprived of oxygen for too long i.e. a minute or so, a lot of horrible damage can be done to it, some of it irreversible. Sure, yeah, they have Eri the wonder unicorn, but that's another theory. Bakugou should be dead or very close to it in the amount of time that has passed since his heart exploded to when all this bullshit happened to when Deku FINALLY shows up. This is so fucking stupid.
I saw the fandom theories on how the heroes will try to bring Bakugou back but nobody saw this one coming. I, for one, had to laugh for a full minute from how damn ridiculous the actual solution was
On the topic of turning yourself into an organ, won't you just need like a fist's worth or maybe an arm's (if you're feeling generous with estimations) worth of muscle to essentially "build" a heart? You know, with the conservation of mass and all that. I mean, if you're already making up hax with his power, why not make it possible for him to make and pump the heart while alive.
I believe that Bakugo is going back to life, but not because of Edgeshot. (It might work for a moment but then fall appart (I HOPE)) because I think he is related in some way to OFA : It might seem weird at first but why would Bakugo see All Might's vestige form? If it was just a flashbacks or last moment memory, I think Bakugo would've seen All Might like he sees him since his very childhood. If this theory's true, I don't really know how Horikoshi's going to make it work, but it may be due to his relationship with Deku. Like ShigAFO said, Bakugo is the one who's closest to Deku, thus with this theory, could have access to the OFA/AFO world? Honestly, this sounds very weird but that's the only reason I got for why Bakugo saw All Mights vestige form. Like you said, the Edgeshot thing is very wacky and out of context. I don't know if Edgeshot will die, though. I don't know much about his quirk but maybe he could live?? idk. Regardless of theory, I think it would be very surprising if Bakugo actually ends up dead. Such an important (and popular) character to die like _this_ without achieving "anything"? It would be so disappointing for his character development. + death in mha is pretty rare (nighteye, midnight..) those are not very important characters. In a way, him dying would be symbolic to the other heroes but.. it feels wrong with the way Bakugo has been built up as a character.
I'm not gonna sit here and say this chapter was brilliantly written or anything, but I truly feel Horikoshi dug his own grave when he "killed" Bakugo in 362. It was such a sloppy way to kill a character, I was genuinely furious at the story in that moment, that I'm just happy there's a chance he could come back. It's pretty stupid, but it's not the worst outcome, because at least he didn't bring Eri to this battlefield or use her to heal Overhaul (who wouldn't help anyways). I also do really like the theme of the older generation protecting the younger generation, especially when they fucked up by bringing kids to war, seeing someone step up and sacrifice himself to save them hits pretty hard. Edgeshot kind of is a nobody, but he's been around enough to make me think "oh that's cool", although I agree I wish we got more of him and got to know him more. He's also the #4 top hero, so not exactly some random dude on the street. I'm hoping the next few chapters could maybe make this scene make a bit more sense, cause right now it is really stupid, but idk... Just the pure relief that Bakugo isn't dead is enough to make me enjoy the chapter. I don't think it necessarily removes stakes because 1, a hero had to die for this to happen and 2, people still very well may die in this arc. I don't think any students will, but I think some pros may die, like Endeavor, Hawks, and the others at the Shiggy fight. I'm also interested to see if Hori explores Bakugo's guilt after this. One of his best moments was him speaking about how guilty he felt for making All Might retire... Now a pro hero DIED to save him, and a few more around him may very well die as well. It's gonna do a lot for his character I feel. Idk, after this I really feel like Horikoshi needs to do some GOATED shit with Bakugo in order to make peace with some fans who hated this development. He better not let this moment go to waste. But yeah in summary, I liked the chapter, and I understand it's critiques, I just hope people can be more respectful about it is all. It just feels like it's impossible to talk about MHA these days without toxicity, but maybe I should get off twitter.
Something else that bothers me personally about this moment is how it makes Bakugo's entire death feel like a manipulation. The whole "I couldn't ask you to sign my card" is so dumb now. Or seeing All Might as a vestige (ghost) or the scene with his mother. All that for nothing since he's going to revive. I don't understand why make Bakugo's death so dramatic if he's going to revive.
Why not have Momo create an artificial heart and someone implant it? It's something we're doing now in the 2000s and with a few decades of regular medical development, combined with quirks, it's something that I'd expect to see in the world of MHA. You still have the tense moment of "Is he going to make it?" The only problem I can see is that I have no idea where Momo is located in relation to the rest of the heroes.
She cannot make organic material but they literally have Eri. I mean a child on the sidelines of war probably not but her quirk legitimately broke this damn manga. She can literally just reset bakugou since we know ever since Mirio reappeared that she has gained control over her power
When I got to the last panel of this chapter and saw “I will be the boy’s heart,” my brain was spassing out. For a while thought I was looking at Mirko and that they were gonna use her heart to replace Bakugo’s. It’s like my brain refused to believe what was happening in part due to the wtf nature of Edgeshot becoming Bakugo’s heart literally out of nowhere - and due to Edgeshot being a nothing character that I forgot even was on the battlefield.
Interesting perspective! However, I completely disagree with every point in this video loll I think that most people fall into a trap of trying to write the story for the Mangaka's instead of allowing the Mangaka to guide them through the story THEY have in mind. That is to say, you not knowing why Horikoshi is writing this way is not because it doesn't make sense AT ALL, but instead you just dont have the right lense to see HOW Horikoshi is writing his story now. What is going on makes perfect sense narratively and especially thematically. It's NOT supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT for edgeshot AT ALL, but instead its supposed to emphasize the theme that Horikoshi is currently expressing, which IS NOT "What does it mean to be a hero". Also currently, the stakes are just as high considering Shiggy is quite literally the opposing threat to the characters in the battle currently. Obviously I am inclined to making a video about this chapter to open up a new way of looking at this chapter. I believe most people are closing their minds to takes like these and that would most likely prevent them from even considering that there is a legitimate way to look at the story narratively and thematically and appreciate chapters like these. I thoroughly enjoyed this chapter 8/10 for me. That's not to say I enjoy every chapter of MHA, because I don't. But I believe I get what Horikoshi is doing with his story and it's marvelous!
- Interesting perspective! However, I completely disagree with every point in this video - So interesting if only you actually gave interesting arguments as to why you disagree. - think that most people fall into a trap of trying to write the story for the Mangaka's instead of allowing the Mangaka to guide them through the story THEY have in mind. - How do you know that this is the story that Horikoshi wants to write? How do you that Horikoshi wasn't forced to revive Bakugo? And that entire point of "THEY have in mind" is such a stupid argument. I'm pretty sure almost nobody WANTED Bakugo to die and get revived one chapter later. - That is to say, you not knowing why Horikoshi is writing this way is not because it doesn't make sense AT ALL, but instead you just dont have the right lense to see HOW Horikoshi is writing his story now. - My God! I love how you comment as if your OPINION is SUPERIOR to everyone else. YOU are the ONLY one who can fully understand Horikoshi nobody else. It's not like YOU are interpreting everything just like everyone else. - It's NOT supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT for edgeshot AT ALL, but instead its supposed to emphasize the theme that Horikoshi is currently expressing, which IS NOT "What does it mean to be a hero". - Again I love how you are framing your OPINION as SUPERIOR to everyone else. But I have a question how do YOU know that this is not supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT? Did you call Horikoshi and ask if this was supposed to be a character moment or are you interpreting the scenes just like everyone else? Another question, if this wasn't supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT why give Edgeshot a flashback to make HIS CHARACTER more complex? And another question if this isn't supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT why Edgeshot and not Best Jeanist? I mean the character doesn't matter so why use Edgeshot? I'm sure it's not because he's the only character that Horikoshi can invent convenient abilities for the situation. But again if Edgeshot was chosen for his quirk then it would make this moment a CHARACTER MOMENT since Edgeshot would be the only CHARACTER who would have the quirk to save Bakugo. Right? Yeah, the "theme" is "older generations sacrificing for the younger generation". Right? So I'm guessing that if Izuku died at the end of the story and Wash appear out of nowhere and revived him you're not going to criticize it. Or if Izuku saved Shigaraki by telling him to stop being evil (in the most simplistic way possible) you're not going to criticize it. Because the only thing that matters is the "theme" not the execution of the theme. - Also currently, the stakes are just as high considering Shiggy is quite literally the opposing threat to the characters in the battle currently. - Not really, having a strong villain doesn't mean that the stakes are high. If we use that logic Dragon Ball is one of the series with the highest takes ever because every single villain could destroy the earth and kill every important character in the series.
@@lostwater227 alright I am definitely not going to respond to that! But if you see in my comment, I clearly stated I’m inclined to make a video explaining my myself. That’s why I was vague and not breaking down every point he made which I believe are false
@@MangaVation Yeah then why not write a comment saying. "Interesting perspective! However, I completely disagree with every point in this video. I'm going to do a video on my channel of my perspective on the situation." Instead of writing things like: "I think that most people fall into a trap of trying to write the story for the Mangaka's instead of allowing the Mangaka to guide them through the story THEY have in mind." "That is to say, you not knowing why Horikoshi is writing this way is not because it doesn't make sense AT ALL, but instead you just dont have the right lense to see HOW Horikoshi is writing his story now." "t's NOT supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT for edgeshot AT ALL, but instead its supposed to emphasize the theme that Horikoshi is currently expressing, which IS NOT "What does it mean to be a hero"." Because you imply that your opinion is worth more than the rest because you write affirmations as if they were real arguments. Without giving actual arguments.
Bakugo would need more then his heart to be replaced, you also have his lungs, his rib cage and the brain damage Bakugo has taken for not having oxygen for several minutes. Why would Edgeshot even know its important to save Bakugo? Especially when Shiggy can just one shot Bakugo again with no trouble.
While sometimes I think you're a bit nitpicky or expect more than you should from the story in your criticism, which isn't inherently a bad thing, this time I'm 100% in agreement. These past MHA chapters in general have been hard to digest, but holy hell, this last one was something special.
yeah this series is just hurting me now. what is it with popular shounen falling apart towards the end like Naruto, jojolion and Bleach (the latter even doing it twice)
i despise the fact that heros dont face consequences for their actions. mangakas being scared of killing someone from the main cast make me so angry for no reason lol
I do and don't agree with some of these points. I agree that how they're reviving Bakugo is absolutely ridiculous. Nothing about it makes any sense. Like seriously if you were gonna do that at least have it be Best Jeanist that at least has a drop of sense in it. But regardless it's being handled poorly. However I disagree that Bakugo dying would have been a good thing. I don't think they should have done a fake out death either, I think they just should've skipped this whole nonsense. Bakugo dying like that without much of an interesting fight of his own and without accomplishing much of anything would have been such a disappointment and lackluster ending to a character that up to this point has been pretty important. His death would have seemingly only served to be emotional fodder for Deku, which lets be real he doesn't even need at this point in the story. I think this whole story beat is nonsense and never should have happened. Maybe kill off another one of the students, someone we've spent time with but isn't such a key character. Or if they absolutely had to kill Bakugo at least do it after he has some kind of epic fight and had a moment that turns things some amount in favor for the heroes. Which also why doesn;t Bakugo have his own villian rival?? like Ochaco has Himiko but Bakugo just has Deku. Which I mean I love they're rivalry, but it's a friendly one and Deku also has a villain rival. I really love Bakugo as a character and it feels like he's just been used as emotional fodder for Deku along with being damseled multiple times. So frustrating.
@@miavia4689 yes, I don't remember which chapters but there were like 4 pages of then fighting and then at the end of the arc they show a defeated Re-Destro
I feel like this series has a very bad habit of trying to cash in on the emotional deaths of characters who just never really had enough screen-time. For goodness' sake, the most impactful character death up to this point has been the BDSM superheroine who was largely played for comedy more than anything serious.
@@TheAzulmagia Hey, don't disrespect my boy Twice. But yeah, aside from him and Torino's fake death almost every character who dies got almost no screen time at all
When someone falls off a cliff in a western movie: I'm not buying it unless I see the body Someone's heart explodes in a manga: I'm not buying it until the series is over
@@drrafa4031 I know. I was being sarcastic. But it's frankly an attempt to bring back a fan favorite who died to try to regain some popularity. Except it pissed off the fans of Naruto even more, and in the end, there is nothing that made us love Jiraya that's in the character anyway.
Hahaha So True, Poor Bakugou he WANTS to destroy Villains but his feats of past bullying overshadow his good achievements. He’s cause more ruin and sabotage towards the Heroes than the ACTUAL main Villain. All Might, Gran Torino, Aizawa’s teaching career was on the line cause of his shitty behavior and now Edgeshot.
@@toadlord8594 Don't forget Izuku for the decade long bully streak, Kirishima for warping his beliefs on bullies, Aizawa for staking his credibility as a genuine teacher on Bakugou's actions etc.
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 Of course not. Because the people running Shonen have no balls. Which is ironic when you consider all the shit they allowed Fujimoto to get away with in Chainsaw Man. He was allowed to kill off half the cast and the way he killed off certain character was truly shocking
@@zemox2534 thats oartially because there isnt 1 particqlluar character in Chainsawman that pumps in that Cash quite like bakugou. Bakugou is a number 1 character in most charts and polls. He alone makes wsj so much money. Wsj only cares about money
I remember having a discussion with someone where I mentioned that MHA has a bloated, underutilized cast, but they routinely throw in heroes we're meant to care about right before killing them off. I talked about how there's so much space that could be utlized discussing pro heroes, especially the top 10. I even used Edgeshot as an example of someone who could be fleshed out. They said I was exaggerating and Edgeshot was not important and that's why he has no arc. My, how the tides have turned.
i said the exact same thing about midnight as well before she died. im so glad someone else shares that opinion. god just imagine how much more time we could've spent with the heroes (teachers specifically too), during... their 2nd or maybe 3rd year. before midnight died, i wish they'd spend time with little snippets of her day to day life, while tieing it nicely to, let's say.. an internship of someone else. it could feel like natural progression, while also exploring the side cast. just like they did with nighteye and mirio. we could've gotten more insight on the big three as well, (instead of shoving Nejire's backstory in the final arc LMAOOOO) it just could've all been neatly compressed over the span of 3 years in universe, instead of having this all happen in 1 year. would've made for so much more planning and breathing room, and also many more chances for the teachers and other heroes to get great screentime. but nah
It's amazing how many heroes Horikoshi badly wasted with the top 10 heroes being the worst offender since with the exception of Endeavor and Ryukyu to an extent they are barely fleshed out and in some cases like Yoroi Musha we DON'T EVEN GET TO SEE HIS QUIRK!!! How the hell can you create this idea of an elite group of heroes yet not EVEN be bothered to showcase one of their quirks thus making us wonder why is he even in the top 10 in that case?! And the less said about Star and Stripe the better.
I lost my investment in MHA a while ago. I'm still reading it week to week but I don't have the same emotional attachment to it I had before. It sucks for people who feel cheated but this is fucking hilarious to me. Like, if Bakugo lives past this battle does he spend the rest of his life with a heart made out of a guy? How will this impact his healthcare going forward? So many dumb questions to never be answered. I like to imagine Edgeshot will spend the rest of Bakugo's life consciously pumping his blood, regulating blood pressure, always awake but never fully aware. Cannot wait to see how this gets worse, hoping for a perfect trainwreck ending.
Yea every since Deku stoped being dark/serious just turning over a new leaf when it came to the state of Japan, and just became normal old Deku again, Stars and Stripes, the traitor plot came out of nowhere with TWO fake outs, Bakugou death fake out, Random All For One face reveal, Deku’s STILL not in the final battle yet, it just feels like…😐 I was confused on what to enjoy here😭
honestly same im just reading because hey might as well, it is hilarious especially hearing my friend who does not give a shit about mha but knows spoilers talk about bakugo having a JEART, a jean heart that sent me into a big fit of laughter, even if bakugo doesn't have a Jeart but a heart made out of edgeshot is still funny to me, i am shocked this is the actual way the story is progressing.
Gentle Criminal and La brava broke the series for me, most of the villains are a joke. Especially hero hunter, I dont get how the fanbase can like such a hipocritical character. But I like Muscular and the Yakusa guys.
When Edgeshot used his special move, I saw it as a serious ass-pull, even the implementation of it was pretty weird, since I thought he'd just wrap himself around Bakugo's heart and compress and relax his entire body... but regardless, MHA has gotten kind of stale and generic in recent time
I remember Horikoshi stating that Bakugo was supposed to play a big role in this final arc so I want to believe that there’s going to be more to him being revived than him simply dying and coming back. Hori tends to do this kind of stuff like when he had the whole fanbase believe Hagakure was the UA traitor for week only for it to be Aoyama. Hopefully I’m right because if not this would be a really strange writing choice by Hori.
My trust in Hori's writting is dead after je ended the Edgy Deku arc after 2 chapters in a boring "Friendship is magic" Moral. Only to Disprove it in the current arc were every exept Deku is useless
@@goddessyamato5238 I mean, him running around town looking like a Demon with no sleep was pritty edgy. And resolving and shifting character arcs should be more then just "Friendship". 90% of all Shonen have strong Friendship elements, but they should not be treated as a end all be all. If the characters actully addressed Deku's Selfdestructive behaviour it would have been far more satisfiying. As it stands now the manga instead opts with everyone working together being the solution, which is a downright farce as we see in the current arc were people eat shit and Deku needs to come in to save the day.
@@plinfan6541 this is a anime based off of heroes and villians friendship is definitely going to play big role. Like what else u want him to do have all these people just walk around sad and depressed half the time and these kids still in high school in a modern day setting
-Bakugo was the only one that could deal damage to Shigaraki -If any student had died UA would have gotten a bad rep + they are still students, and they had to go to the battlefield this early, its not fair them dying yet.
@@felipekane9611 That first one I'll give you but a pro hero shouldn't care about a school's reputation unless they're a teacher, and if anyone was bothered by kids on the battlefield knowing full they could potentially die, they wouldn't let them on it in the first place. That's a risk they chose to take.
Using Overhaul would have been so cool. I also wanted Overhaul to use his quirk to ease Shigaraki’s destruction by separating the ground to stop Shiggy’s decay. MHA has so much missed potential.
I see some people on Twitter say that Edgeshot's sacrifice is supposed to convey the older generation sacrificing themselves for the younger generation, but if Horikoshi wanted to convey that, then why not have Edgeshot sacrifice himself BEFORE Bakugo gets killed? If Edgeshot could take those fatal blows for Bakugo, then he could've preserved a young hero's life before trying this hail mary. Also, if Best Jeanist wanted to do something why not control Bakugo's threads and move him around like Granny Chiyo did with Sakura, or Vanessa with Asta?
Also, if ypu want to convey this theme so much, why not use Jeanist? Make Bakugo be fatally wounded in a way Jeanist can die to save him, this way we have a man who has a previous connection with Bakugou, wanted to see him improve and had actual moments in thr story showcasing how much he's willing to do what's needed for the success of a mission! It would be a beautiful moment of a former teacher, giving his life up for the bratty student he had so much high hopes for to be able to continue developing, but no, we get Edgeshot, a piece of nothing
MHA chapter 405 spoilers: Hori somehow managed to make this chapter worse today. Today it was revealed that edge shot isn’t the reason why bakugou came back to life, IT WAS ACTUALLY BAKUGO WHO BROUGHT HIMSELF BACK TO LIFE BECAUSE “a drop of sweat ran through Bakugou’s bloodstream and exploded inside of him, activating his heart (RukasuMHA on twitter).” Edgeshot then tells Bakugou “ I only connected the parts in place. It was your quirk you strengthened over the years that brought you back (RukasaMHA on twitter).” Also, edgeshot is still alive somehow, so there’s that smh. Horikoshi’s horror manga better be a masterpiece or else his career is over.
@@Oceaniz The same goes for Gege (author of Jujutsu Kaisen) as well. It's crazy how two of my favorite mangas have been going downhill since 2021 because both authors have lost interest in their series and are trying to finish it as fast as possible so they can work on their next manga (Hori wants to make a horror manga, while Gege wants to make an idol manga).
To be fair I'm pretty sure he didn't know. All MIght kept his failing state a secret to everyone, he always maintained his muscle form in front of general public. ANd when it did become known All MIght had already sacrificed OfA so even if he did heal his organs All MIght wouldn't be of much help since he's pretty much quirkless now.
The only thing I like about MHA are the villains tbh at this point. And even now I'm a bit disappointed about Shigaraki being mostly controlled by AfO when they are both amazing villains separately and I like it when they show their assets and villainy separated.
The only other Shonen i can think of that actually kills important people off is Chainsawman, but i feel like we haven't seen enough of the cast to care a lot about their deaths the way JoJo did it
This is exactly why so many people I know like the League of Villains better then the kids, because they are allowed to actually be at risk and die. They can actually change and have character development.
In the end of the day, even though it's believable Edgeshot can do that, as far fetched as it is, my biggest problems are these 3: 1- The previous 2 chapters where MEANINGLESS, as Bakugou's "death" led to NOTHING, not even to Midorya getting angry and getting there on a rage mode. Just, pure bait for the readers 2- Edgeshot is a NOTHING CHARACTER! The man supposedly knew Jeanist since highschool but when Jeanist was thought dead, we got nothing from Edgeshot! A wasted opportunity to show their friendship, or to show Edgeshot being affected by it, to also showcase better how connected the heroes can be. Edgeshot was just a background cool character, perfect to be tossed aside to bring back Bakugou like a trap card you never knew was set-up 3,(The biggest one)- It robbed Jeanist of saving Bakugou! If Bakugou had been just severely damaged and was like, almost dead in a way Jeanist could help, it would be an amazing moment of a character who was one of the first to believe in Bakugou and try to help him, a character who "died" to help the heroes and the new gen, a great support who had been important in the war and brought to the light to us, a character who had a connection with Bakugou and would have given us a meaningfull moment, just like All Might with Deku, of a former big hero giving his life/strenght/faith to the next gen he helped to raise closely! That's what I hate in this chapter, it robbed Jeanist from having a great, impactful, memorable character moment with Bakugou
This, this right here. I was so on board with this being another rage baot for deku as it could lead to him having an actually amazing fight in the series....sighs....oh well.
@@GiraffeBlood Even then, what was the point of the previous chapters now? Even if Bakugou's death was supposed to some character, means nothing for the reader as we know he's still alive. If he's gonna come back awaken, it'll feel kinda cheap. If he's gonna come back changed, well, that's not the best way to finish his character development. No matter his plans, the previous 2 chapters where everyone reflected on Bakugou's death, are now muddled as, well, it didn't mattered ad he's going to come back. And, if he'a going for "This not gonna work, it'll fail" it'll just mean 2 characters will die, for maybe some very cool fight moments and a goodbye, which will still be a bit muddled by the bait and we don't even know if will be good or not. The next chapters might rederm this moment, yes, but the last two are already muddled
My hero academia took something amazing with a trillion good possibilities and boiled down into a selfish narrative that doesn't mean anything at all. All of the good things are spoiled, ruined, or broken outright. Characters we have been in love with since the series began are off-screened with comedic timing.
I love how the show every media outlet and youtuber constantly called "A breath of fresh air in subverting cliche shounen tropes" in 2016 reverts to the worst shounen tropes from a Toriyama manga 27 years older than it, in the most vital chapter of it's run. All that bragging from 2016 really made this moment hurt a lot harder.
It really wasn’t that much of a subversion compared to other series like HxH, but it did some of that decently enough, and the potential was so high and yet this is the result
I'm not gonna front anyone for being angry but I've been genuinely enjoying what's been going on week to week. I may be brainwashed but I'm enjoying my self
I know the out of universe reason. Bakugo is the most popular character and the deuteragonist of the series. Hori did say in a interview that fans of this character will either love it ot hate it. I just don't see anywhere else for the character to go to be honest. But yeah Hori does alot of things don't make sense other than it looks cool in his arc. It's just random bullshit.
Not to mention, why is Bakugo even important enough to save? Edge shot is a powerful pro hero with years of experience who would be far more useful to defeating Shigaraki compared to Endeavor Lite
1. Why should someone even be important to deserve to be saved? Are you asking why do heroes save people? 2. Bakugo actually seemed stronger than all the pro heroes involved in that fight.
@@iammemys2213 1. I get the whole "prioritize the injured" thing, but this is a circumstance where you can safely throw that shit out. Priority number fucking one should be killing the man who levels literal cities. 2. Bakugo got one-shotted. What's stopping the lovecraftian horror from doing it again? Also, not even five chapters after this, Mirko kicks his ass with two prosthetic limbs, so I doubt this fifteen year old with an inferiority complex would be much more of a help.
@@zekchomenko2927 Mirko also immediately got packed just like Bakugo after doing so and only after AFO decided he’s gonna stop being scared of dead minors. Best Jeanist also mentioned that they needed his firepower to stand a chance before Bakugo decided he didn’t wanna be in this ass story anymore. They didn’t know when Deku would arrive so if it’s a case of trying to win. Obviously they revive him if they could. We know newer quirk gens have stronger quirks as a whole. Bakugo’s the only one who’s has shown lasting visible damage not named Deku.
@@Jaymizuband I know newer quirks are stronger, it's a big part of Quirk Singularity Theory (not much of a theory anymore, I suppose) after all, but why is this BARELY TRAINED 16 YEAR OLD more important than LITERAL TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. If he's the only one to do lasting damage than clearly the currently existing pros should pack their fucking bags right now since their getting outclassed by some asshole teenager. Realized this after clicking post: Mirko may have gotten folded like a half priced mattress after kicking AFO's ass for a chapter, but she still kicked his ass for a whole chapter, which considering she only has two of her original limbs, isn't half bad. Bakugo, on the other hand, got one half-decent shot in then fucking died.
I have another conspiracy theory/headcanon: this war arc was supposed to happen on 3rd year and one of bakugou internships was with edgeshot. The guy is literally a top 5 hero, the only thing we knew about him was that he is a ninja and always cool and collected. I can see a story where Bakugou loses his temper and let a villain get away, so he decides to become better and goes to the most controlled top 5 guy, edgeshot. Now edgeshot sacrifice helped makes thematic sense: two mentors help together and sacrifice a lot to save their pupil, heroism and old guard passing the torch to the new guard all tied up in a nice bow
the chapter Bakugo died, I remember telling my friends Hori backed himself into a corner. Either he kills one of the fan favorites, or he revives him in a bullshit way... but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad
i actually laughed when i read this chapter. even fanfics don’t stoop this low! what’s the point of killing off a character if it’s going to be reversed in two chapters? why not just knock him out instead? why the fuck did edgeshot just have a random wash bubble in his pocket just for this occasion?????
I honestly agree. Working at weekly jump is usually harder that monthly, and it could contribute to Horikoshi burning out. Also it seems that hes already tires of his story, and it's sad. It would been grate if Horikoshi took one month hiatus to rest and refresh himself a little.
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And then he turned himself into a heart, funniest shit ive ever seen
Virgin edgeshot: is a nobody, he wasn't even a character, does a heroic speech dies to save a already dead kid which might still die because of all his other injuries
Chad crush: saves aizawa instead of himself, only had a lil few lines, dies
Who even is Crush?
Deadass I was like "Who are you?" when it happened xD
@@Tapo4kEK-the-slut-slipper I'm pretty sure he means Crust.
Chad Mirko: Gets maimed, recovers and puts on prosthesis, gets maimed again, procedes to continue fighting shigaraki to the death
@@Tapo4kEK-the-slut-slipperthe shield herói guy, the good one
The worst thing about all of this is that it took a whoooole year for this cliffhanger to resolve, and THEY'RE BOTH ALIVE! What the absolute FFFFFFFFFFFFF... Hahahaha. Still, I won a pretty long term bet due to this.
I know it's not gonna happen, but I would pay for Bakugo's body to reject the fake heart. Medical rejection is a big problem with transplants, and Edgeshot is literally putting all his cells in Bakugo's body and expecting his heart to beat again. Frankly, it should be a medical disaster. Sure it'll work out at this point, but it shouldn't.
They're are the same blood btw
@@diamonshade7484 right but that's like 10% of the massive problem here. Sure they might have a compatible blood type, but they don't have compatible *bodies*
You literally can't just slap a new lung into someone and expect it to work perfectly. Even compatible organs can be rejected by a body.
Maybe its how bakugo dies at the end of the series
Or otherwise the only way to save him would be with eri
@@diamonshade7484 its comically convenient, lol.
"I'm sure it will work at this point, but it shouldn't" is essentially MHA's motto now.
Horikoshi's story is suffering from "Season 8 Game of Thrones syndrome"... The saddest part about it though?
He's seeing all this happen in real time and refuses to stop and pull it for resets and rewrites. It could be possible and should have been done many chapters ago, but his radio silence tells me three things:
1. He's over the fandom and doesn't care if he pisses it off
2. He's over MHA in general
3. He is more than willing to troll the fans while he destroys his creation (and probably his writing career let's be honest).
No spoilers for AoT but... that ending left much to be desired--HOWEVER it made sense for the narrative.... in some ways. That's really all I ask for a finale.
Is that too much to ask for??
What is going to happen to MHA? Well... have you guys ever watched Game of Thrones....?
This is so painful and sad...i really loved this manga
Or his health issues are really serious and wants to give us closure, so that we don't get the Berserk treatment. Whatever the reason is, I still dislike the way things are going
The comparison the AoT's ending is totally on point. Great stories, ruined by the way they ended.
Honestly with how his health has been at times, how overworked and so on due to his series hitting popularity so early on....its more than likely he desperately wants to be over and done with this series. He's spent almost a decade on this series that it more than likely burnt him out completely
As much as the writing has gotten worse. I don't think he is a bad writer by any means considering the beginning arcs and series had to say. Its just seems he's no longer interested in writing bnha anymore.
Honestly it feels more like yuyu Hakusho to me - nearly the same story with the writer, too.
Story made it BIG early on and shonnen jump started pushing really hard for more and more and more content. The insane hours to pump out work + the pressure and demand from the fans wears on your health and eventually you just want to move on with your life.
An a fan it's disappointing to see a story end sloppily but as an artist who'd already cashed more than enough paychecks and is probably dreaming of a nice long vacation and a million OTHER projects?? 120% relatable.
My biggest problem with this whole thing is that I don't see the point of bringing Bakugo back at all when it comes to the story. Like ok he's a popular character but within the story, why is it that they need to bring back Bakugo specifically out of everyone who has died in this battle? He has failed against Shigaraki already so what does bringing him back now will contribute to the fight at hand? Is Bakugo supposed to be the main part of a plan or something and they couldn't afford to let him die because of it?
Also if Edgeshot can get inside people's bodies and mess with their organs, why doesn't he just infiltrate Shigaraki and try to kill him from inside out? To me that sounds like a safer bet on winning than just reviving Bakugo and a better way to sacrifice himself.
Maybe I'm missing something because I'm not invested in this series anymore and I just skim through the chapters to stay up to date with the overall story so I'd appreciate some clarity in this matter in case anyone would like to enlighten me.......
6:10 funny part is that before the Edgeshot thing there were some online thinking something like this would happen with Mawata Fuwa(aka that single 2-A student Hori showed awhile back.)
Who
@@mikelribelio1226 That single 2-A student Hori showed awhile back.
Can we just give credit to one of the most nonsensical lines?
"This stopped heart belongs to a life we can ill afford to lose."
Like, what? Edgeshot, you are a hero with years of experience and hundreds of saved lives under your belt. You have trained probably most of your life, have moved up the hero rankings, and even helped in the rescue operation of this same child. What on God's green earth ever gave you the impression that this dumpster fire of a human being that has slowly changed into a campfire is somehow a life you could and should sacrifice your own for? What events led you to this asinine conclusion?
You’re thinking too rationally about it. He’s a hero, and he sees someone whose life he can save. That’s all it really needs to be. He’s not doing a cost benefit analysis I’m his head, because that’s not what being a hero is about
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Thats not the point, the point is of all people he does this on, why Bakugo of all characters? This guy has definitely seen a fair share of death before, why is this the one he suddenly wants to end it all for?
"What led you to this asinine conclusion?" might as well be the epitaph for the series, honestly.
Was this not obvious? At the time Bakugo was the only one there who could damage Shigaraki. He’s still has the burn from Howitzer Impact. Yeah it’s dogshit but I thought that part was pretty clear.
@@Jaymizubandyou're telling between a guy who can no clip on command
A kaiju with a lazer and stomachache posing as an introvert
And a plucky girl who could drown you in a river of her own life force
Can't seem to do as much damage as a doughnut dipped in nitroglycerin
Might I add those 3 were comparable to pro heroes and even the no 1 hero and are the top of not just their class but the entire f*cking school
Can't seem to damage shigaraki
Yeah I'm calling bull
As someone who has lost interest in mha at least a year ago, what the actual hell… what are they doing at this point 💀
As a writer i find it utterly stupid that mangakas find it THAT hard to just make even the slightest backstory for a side character. Why is it that every last pinch of development goes to people that have ties with the main character or ARE a main character? it would be so much more fufilling and satisfying if we saw more outside of that cast, but apparently that is just too difficult
This shows that edgeshot was all an plot device... plot devices can be used to make an story progress, espcially for mangakas who aren't good at writing but even before this arc,, it should've played our different so that it would've been believed for the readers. But horikoshi is doing this weekly while he planned mha to be way shorter than this, so yeh..
Honestly you just need to read better manga this one only has good character designs everything else is trash
@@KIKAN_THE_RAT i do read better mangas actually, hxh, berserk, vagabond, chainsaw man and all that, mha was just one of my favourites back in grade 6 so it sucks to see it fall from grace
Edge shot pulled up and said
EdgeShot: Don't worry, I'll turn into his heart and I will die.
Backugo:
EdgeShot: Tell my family I loved them
Backugo:
EdgeShot: 🫀
I think the series fell off as soon as Star and Stripe came in.
Was it hype? Uh, yeah she was cool. But like...it barely made sense why the most OP hero in the world gets introduced to just be capped for no reason? And how her powers worked made little sense?
Honestly, MHA is that Shonen series that gave itself too much to work with. A lesson to Shonen creators: please pace yourself. Pull a chainsaw man or Tokyo Ghoul and take a big break to think of the plot.
I don't know, I like the take some others have made that Edgeshot's sacrifice encapsulates the overarching theme of the old heroes paving the way for the new generation. That's just me.
Agreed. I also liked how his initial “death” encapsulated the failures of the previous generation too. Right now, he should be about to enter the second year. He should have discovered the technique that (would have) killed him in a controlled and safe environment. A battle, or training session, where stakes are incredibly low compared to a fight where humanity is on the line. He should have had the guidance of his mentors to slowly build up the technique and his body after its discovery to make it into a safe and powerful combat skill.
Instead, thanks to the previous generation failing, he’s been pushed into a real battlefield in place of the experienced heroes that should be there. Two full years early. Instead of having the time to develop his powers, he’s been pushed into the most intense battle in the history of hero society. In the moment of stress, he discovered that technique and let it all out with zero control because if he held back, everyone could die. Leading to his death, which could have been avoided had he discovered the technique in the way he should have. I guess Edgeshot’s sacrifice could be seen as the older generation trying to make up for those mistakes, but there’s still a price they have to pay.
I don’t personally have a problem with this specific arc going on at the moment or the way Bakugo is handled. I think I would have liked it either way. Bakugo’s arc would have ended early in a way that makes sense, even if he hadn’t achieved his goals or reached his full potential. I would have been a bit disappointed, but he would have died a true hero, sacrificing himself for others. But I’m glad he’ll get a chance to (hopefully) reach that potential and (hopefully) get a major moment of triumph. I can understand why people don’t like fakeout deaths, especially if they’re used to seeing them over and over.
@@thirstquencher4631 Bakugo was trying to save his fucking friend who was being reckless dude! Did you want him to stand there and do nothing?!
It does do that but... It's pointless. For you to build a moment like that, in a history, it needs to come from someone important. A constrast I could give os Crust's death. He sacrificed himself for Aizawa, but he was just that, a small foil to showcase us how those heroes are ready to sacrifice themselves for the "greater good" if it'll give them a chance of victory. But this Edgeshot moment is bad at doing this cause, you have Jeanist there. Someone with an actual connection to Bakugou which would've made this moment feel more meaningful
Or, if Edgeshot was indeed an actual character with a personality, backstory, connections and screentime. Yrah, it can be thematically accurate, and we could even say it representa the theme, but it doesn't change the fact it was bad written and a waste of a character. It came out of nowhere, at the cost of using a character who would encapsulate this moment much better
Meanwhile Nighteye got stabbed a single time and dropped dead XD I guess in few months after his death hospitals developed magical revive technology
EXACTLY LIKE IT MAKES NO SENSE ☠️☠️☠️
The fact that Horikoshi also refuses to permanently injure or kill any important character that isn’t a woman, it is also pretty fucking weird.
Midnight is dead, Mirko lost three limbs, very recently another very important, female character died. Curious died.
Meanwhile the only male character of importance that actually bit it is Twice.
ON GODDD
Didn't even notice that that is weird lmfaoo
I mean, Twice dying is far more impactful and important than all these character deaths combined even the "important female character".
If you want to use Midnight or Curious you should use Nigtheye or Crust too.
Mirko lost 3 limbs but there are other characters who also lost limbs or got heavy injuries. Compress lost one of his arms, Overhaul lost both of them, Re-Destro lost his legs, Hawks lost his wings and later his quirk, Endeavor lost an arm, Dabi is burning to the point that he's bones, Iida's brother is in a wheelchair and can not use his quirk, Bakugo's beatdown and "death", Aizawa lost his leg and cannot use his quirk, etc.
Endevour lost an arm and Night Eye died. Gran Torino might have died (?) Although your point still stands.
I was hoping Bakugo would actually die since his arc is complete and his death would have a profound impact on Midoriya. At the very least, I'm hoping they'll kill off a member of Class 1-A, and Bakugo seemed like the perfect candidate.
Lmao they killed Midnight but that didn't even affect them.
Reading your comment, I don't think his arc is complete. I think it will be complete when he realises and accepts that his power will never be at par with OFA and becoming a good hero is more important than being the no 1 hero🤔
Yeah, no. Bakugo's death as it is, IS NOT a sweet send-off for the character. Especially when he's so underdeveloped
That's how I felt. Is the Edgeshot thing stupid? Sure, but it's SO much better than killing Bakugo in that way. It had to be one of the worst character deaths I've ever seen. It accomplished nothing and went COMPLETELY against Bakugo as a character and MHA as a whole and would have proved Vigilante Deku right.
@@thirstquencher4631 brats always deserve a narrative chance to become better people, unless the author explicitly says they don't
@@thirstquencher4631 you talking like that is his fault lol. If you were in his place you would be doing it any better. Dude, he is a child, their deaths had nothing to do with him. Actually, he never killed a single person lol. Bakugou was the only person in that battlefield who was able to scratch Shigaraki, without him Deku would be dead and he would still be going rougue. You are a hater, its cute.
It's so weird too, we see Bakugou a good amount...but seldom is it for character progression. He's more like a weapon than a character, shit needs to get done but theres no time for glittery flashback or introspection? Throw in the coded sociopath, because let's be honest...
@@quesproductions7170 OK. Did any of you read the story?@ bakugo grew and matured with each arc he appeared in. Near the end of villain hunt he apologised to Deku for being a jerk! Look at the current arc, he told Jeanist to look after the others showumh his concern for them. He took a bullet 4 Deku and almost died due to Izuku being a RECKLESS idiot. And yet you guys call Bakugo RECKLESS?! LookI hate MHA right now but unlike you blind fools I still remember the things it got right in the past, like the great character arc for Bakugo. And yet you guys are letting you hatred of the series blind you and ignore shit that clearly happened in the story.
To be honest, Bakugo's _death_ was the most shocking yet bittersweet and beautiful at the same time. Imagine a character filled with ego and hatred towards Deku from the very beginning until it shows his soft side in which his simple wish is to let All Might sign his limited edition hero card which he got during childhood.
Of course, I already expected that he will revived. *But not on this way* .
Feels like I'm re-reading Tsubasa Chronicles manga again. 🙄
I hope this isn’t a way to set up Bakugo becoming more powerful and playing a big role in the defeat of Afo and Shigaraki, but I’m afraid it will be something like that. Like edgeshot made him immortal or something by healing every injury he sustains. And maybe to make things more dramatic Bakugo will save the world with edgeshot’s help and then die. I can totally imagine edgeshot’s will living on and making Bakugo so strong for all the horny fangirls that want to see him shine.
Bakugo is my favorite character in the series and this set of chapters made me feel so livid that i went on a 30 minute rant to my wife and then wrote a better ending to the series than Hortikoshi.
I thought his death was fantastically written and so beautiful. And then i looked at the set up and i became convinced that it was merely a publicity stunt by the author to get more clicks. He did it as the cliffhanger to a 2 week serialization break. Everything about it screams publicity stunt and i couldnt be more angry.
Im only reading the series at this point due to the sunk cost fallacy since ive gone through the other 368 chapters whats another 20 in the grand scheme of things.
What was one of my favorite series 2 years ago has now fallen from grace and be come merely another mid shounen.
Or you know... ERI who can rewind...
-Bakugo gets random, yet interesting power up
-Uses it for all of 2 pages before getting punked
-Heart explodes, but it's not clear whether it's from his quirk or the punch(why would a punch explode a heart)
-"I will become the boy's heart"
-Bakugo loses again, because he's still not any stronger than 5 seconds ago.
This chapter is only the cherry on top. This entire Bakugo death sequence has been laughable.
Well, yeah. Katsuki already used everything he got. So how would his revive help anything? Unless... the protagonist Mary Sue will arrive at the moment and defeat Shigaraki.
This "His heart exploded dude" is very stupid to me. I read and re-read that chapter over and over again and nothing about it indicates that it *exploded* like everybody says it did. "oH bUt HiS qUiRk AwAkEnInG" yeah, but the last shot we see of his heart it wasnt exploded, his was getting pierced not exploding.
@@jpmedina8328 It might’ve been a different translation
This series survives on fake out drama. Death in this series is taken as serious as it is in Dragon Ball Z; as in even when a character "dies" they are LITERALLY waiting to go back.
And my big question is why are there no other healing Quirks in this show besides Recovery Girl? Why wasn't there a healer on the sidelines tending to the wounded heroes so they can continue fighting far longer and more effectively? Of ALL the Quirks in this whole show the most useful ones are relegated to a SINGLE individual while other Quirks like Fire and Ice are handed around the community like Hot Cakes! It doesn't show importance to the characters who have these one time only powers, it shows lazy writing that the story can't accommodate more than one person having such useful, powerful, and important abilities.
oh this development was bizarre and out of left field for sure.
I will STRETCH myself for this, just a moment. Have Jeanist do the stitching, have him struggle with the pain of using his best friend's life and body to revive his protege. THAT could be some emotional development for the story...if it were going to stick around for like 3 more arcs so we could do something with it X)
10:30 plus if Bakugo is already brain dead then bringing the heart back is useless
The whole heart from strings sounds like something that would happen in stone ocean, yet.. not so badly
4 months later and Bakugo is still out like a light. I think Horikoshi forgot that there was supposed to be something happening?
i am so disconnected with mha & its community that i read this chapter and didn't feel anything. it didn't faze me.
MHA is really falling apart at the finishing line. I went from eagerly reading every chapter as they get released to only coming back every few dozen chapters. Some fans of the series will defend the story no matter how bad it is, but in my opinion, Horikoshi has completely squandered the good will and potential of the series. I don't know why, but it is true. I'm so glad this channel isn't mindlessly praising MHA the same way so many others are.
If the person sacrificing themself was someone we cared about like all might or something then the death would have still mattered and had impact. Instead it was pointless and might as well of just not happened. I'm really hoping that something happens to make this not awful but I'm not optimistic. Reading My Hero the last couple of years has honestly reminded me of watching the end of Game of Thrones sometimes. It was so good for like 70% of it's runtime and then just landed on it's face in the final act.
I disagree for the most part. I think the chapter was fine. Though I do wish he was a better established character.
I really don’t have a problem with it, it’s having it’s pain arc moment lmaoooo
Yeah too bad that that scene is the worst thing in the generally amazing pain arc and still way better than this pile of dogshit writing.
well pain arc main theme was overarching ur past...nagato was basically a naruto who didnt make it and 99% of the reanimated ppl were randoms...we didnt knew the full extent of the rinnegan but if he can manipulate fkn dead bodies it can even do shit like reviving the dead and nagato sacrificed himself for the sake of naruto idea of peace which was different from nagato but was the same goal so it wasnt for nothing...plus kakashi needed his moments with obito in the war arc
@@mihal1570 and atleast it wasnt made in the final arc like mha
@@mihal1570 I think it's worse but go off, reviving a ton of characters ranging from significantly important to unimportant feels like more of a cop-out than one relevant character.
@@illmatic479 Let's be honest Pain only really revived one character (Kakashi). Everyone else was just random people that almost nobody care about.
If Jeanist had decided to pull off that stunt then MAYBE I would have overlooked it but this author is such a coward... I was weary of the writing the moment the story introduced a normal kid who was using his will, courage and wits in a world full of super humans to then just have the story give him the strongest power. Skipping over two great opportunities to kill off Allmight, skipping over a great chance to kill off Gran Torino and then this... it's a wonder how likeable some of the characters are with how bad this dude is at writing.
Do you think Hori was pressured to bring Bakugo back?
Something I else I dislike is that the majority of relatively "relevant" pro heroes have come from UA. We've NEVER gotten a backstory for Edgeshot, and now him and Jeanist are both from UA... with the exception of Fatgum, all heroes who serve a certain purpose to the story come from UA. I know that from a narrative perspective it makes sense, it being the best Hero school and whatnot, but it feels a bit lazy since there are so many hero schools Horikoshi has come up with, hell it would also bring about a good moral being "it doesn't matter where you got educated, what matters is how hard you work". Unfortunately, another missed opportunity
I have read a lot of Mangas, some seriously weird shit, but this is something else. This is some "Honey, I shrunk the kids and have them revive someone.... from the inside" shit that they just simply pulled out of their arse. And yes, it's about heroism and shit, but the sacrifice of a nobody serves no purpose at all, there is no attachment to the character of Edgeshot, it would have been a lot more impactful if a classmate or all might would sacrifice themselves for Bakugo to live, but edgeshot of all the people serves no purpose for the story and the reader.
The longer the final arc is dragging on, the worse it gets, you can tell it's rushed.
Here’s a summary of my thoughts on the Bakugo situation:
People are criticizing the fact he’s coming back BEFORE it’s even happened. It’s like when people were upset about Hagakure being “revealed” as the traitor, when the VERY next chapter made those same people do a complete 180. Not saying he won’t come back (I think that if he has to die, which he still could by the end, this was not a proper sendoff for the character), but anything could happen between now and then. Maybe the method their using will fail due to outside influence (Shigaraki), and the way he is brought back might be more costly than this, like Jeanist dying for instance. And most Shounen series have done this before, and sometimes even more than once. So WHY does MHA have to be criticized more for doing the exact same thing? Also, I think it’s handling the “fake death” thing so much better than most series. Usually a character is brought back suddenly with little to no explanation, or we’re given the explanation AFTER they’re revived. Here, they’ve outright told us that they intend to bring him back and how they intend to do it, so it’s much less of a deus ex machina.
And again, I think he deserves a much better death than this. The perfect end for him Ivan imagine is that he dies at the end in Deku’s arms and we get our sad goodbye seen for them and anyone else that matters. And if All Might ends up dying like Nighteye predicted, Deku will sign Bakugo’s card in his place.
People are just far too desperate for bloodshed and death. Newsflash, that’s not what this series is about. And the stakes ARE still there. Just because some people aren’t dying doesn’t mean they can’t. I mean, Bakugo technically DID die, quite easily I might add, and it’s costing the life of another hero to bring him back.
Saying that Mha has handled “fake out deaths” are better than other Series, its just a wrong statement.
@@joshuaadams3148 It’s my opinion.
The problem is that no one believed for a minute that he was dead, since it was so poorly executed, and the return has no weight. There is essentially no point to having him die in the first place; it has changed nothing.
@@wesuckatgames9549 but again, it hasn’t happened yet. The “execution” hasn’t been fully shown, and the reason for killing him could be revealed later.
Most of your points don't make sense. But let me try to argue against them.
- It’s like when people were upset about Hagakure being “revealed” as the traitor, when the VERY next chapter made those same people do a complete 180 -
This is terrible since you are admitting that Horikoshi loves to manipulate the audience and in the end laugh in their faces. And instead of creating interesting moments with those manipulations, they are totally unnecessary. The Hagakure thing is a clear example of that. What was the point of making the audience believe that Hagakure would be the traitor? Horikoshi did it because he wanted to and because he doesn't care if the audience looks like idiots.
- Maybe the method their using will fail due to outside influence (Shigaraki), and the way he is brought back might be more costly than this, like Jeanist dying for instance. -
If that is going to happen then why make this unnecessary chapter?
- And like you said, most Shounen serie have done this before, and sometimes even more than once. So WHY does MHA have to be criticized more for doing the exact same thing? -
This is so stupid. Using that logic any criticism towards MHA would be meaningless.
A) Izuku is a bad protagonist - well other shonen also have a bad protagonist.
B) Bakugo is poorly developed - well other shonen also has poorly developed characters.
C) The supporting characters are useless - other shonen also make the supporting characters useless.
D) Izuku got 7 quirks out of nowhere - other shonen also gives away powers to their main characters.
Literally, any criticism can be evaded with "Other shonen do it too".
At the end of the series, Horikoshi is going to reveal an alien as the final villain of MHA and no one will be able to criticize him because other shonen does it.
- Usually a character is brought back suddenly with little to no explanation, or we’re given the explanation AFTER they’re revived. -
And that is known as bad writing since the writer is inventing things that he did not establish before to try to give coherence to something that does not make sense.
- Here, they’ve outright told us that they intend to bring him back and how they intend to do it, so it’s much less of a deus ex machina. -
Telling us how it will happen does not change the fact that it is a Deux Machina.
EX: Izuku dies at the end of the series. Shigaraki manages to cut off his head but guess what Sero is nearby and Sero reveals to us that he has a secret ability that allows him to use his tape to attach Izuku's head to his body and revive him. Even though they tell us how they will save Izuku it is still ridiculous.
- I mean, Bakugo technically DID die, quite easily I might add, and it’s costing the life of another hero to bring him back. -
The fact that the character who is dying is the least important of all the battlefield really tells us how little it matters.
EX: Izuku dies but in the end, Koda sacrifices himself so that Izuku can be revived. And saying that "someone" died in exchange for reviving Izuku.
- And again, I think he deserves a much better death than this. The perfect end for him Ivan imagine is that he dies at the end in Deku’s arms and we get our sad goodbye seen for them and anyone else that matters. -
You are really speaking from your emotions and not from logic. The only reason this doesn't bother you is because you didn't like Bakugo's death.
But I'm going to ask you a question. If Bakugo died the way you describe and one chapter later he is revived because Koda sacrifices himself for him, would you like it?
Bakugo will die 5 more times then Horikoshi will introduce the R. Eviver brothers (John, James, Joe, Jorge, Jerry)
i haven't had a good laugh in a while 💀 hori's writing has been disappointed me for a long time, frankly after the first war arc, but man edgeshot becoming bakugou's heart is a new low. it was SOOOO out of place, if they wanted an adult saving bakugo why tf wouldn't best jeanist just do it 💀 ?? like it's sooooo bizarre because he's never been relevant to bakugou like ever so why did he need to be the one to save him?
i love bakugou and i don't think that he should die, but man im more pissed that THIS is why he's alive like ??? i don't think if he died now it would be optimal for his character development, but i could understand and i could even accept it. it would be a little rushed, but if he died, it would be okay because he's actually important in the series, so his death would actually mean something. edgeshot having this big moment with absolutely ZERO setup, it's just weird.
like it's so obvious that horikoshi has lost his balls for actually letting his characters have consequences for a while now, but man this is some real bs that he's trying to make us accept. i would've rather had bakugou die permanently than this bs moment 💀 literally anything could've happened and that would've been better than this
and like i get it, bnha hasn't been kind to horikoshi. not only shtty shippers, but it's also dunked on by a lot of other hardcore shounen bros. this series is SO much longer than he ever planned for, and that's pretty evident when he said he planned it to end in like 20 vols at one point. making a manga in general is just so demanding for weekly authors, so not only mentally, i know he's probably suffering physically as well. and even though i know all of this, i'm still disappointed man. this just isn't the BNHA that i fell in love with 4 years ago.
he's tired of the series, i'm tired of the series, i think everyone is tired of the series. at this point, i think we're all just waiting for the end of it to see how this whole story fits together. i highly doubt it will satisfy any of us, but if it does, by god call horikoshi one of the best. but again, with how this series is going, it doesn't look likely 💀
Something else people don't take into account... Bakugou was lying there for a solid minute or more. His heart exploded so nothing is pumping blood through his body, his lungs cant work, therefore not only is he bleeding out (which if a major artery is cut you bleed out in under a few minutes MUCH LESS A HEART) but now his organs aren't getting their oxygen...
which leads to organ shutting down. Wanna know what else isn't getting oxygen? His brain. If the brain is deprived of oxygen for too long i.e. a minute or so, a lot of horrible damage can be done to it, some of it irreversible.
Sure, yeah, they have Eri the wonder unicorn, but that's another theory.
Bakugou should be dead or very close to it in the amount of time that has passed since his heart exploded to when all this bullshit happened to when Deku FINALLY shows up.
This is so fucking stupid.
I thought after the emergence of super violent shonen mangas, authors doesnt afraid to kill a character anymore. I guess I was wrong.
I saw the fandom theories on how the heroes will try to bring Bakugou back but nobody saw this one coming. I, for one, had to laugh for a full minute from how damn ridiculous the actual solution was
None of us thought Bakugo would die but I don't think anyone expected the heart
So bakugo has a Kurama from Naruto situation going on…lol 10 bucks he can talk to him too somehow
On the topic of turning yourself into an organ, won't you just need like a fist's worth or maybe an arm's (if you're feeling generous with estimations) worth of muscle to essentially "build" a heart? You know, with the conservation of mass and all that. I mean, if you're already making up hax with his power, why not make it possible for him to make and pump the heart while alive.
I believe that Bakugo is going back to life, but not because of Edgeshot. (It might work for a moment but then fall appart (I HOPE)) because I think he is related in some way to OFA : It might seem weird at first but why would Bakugo see All Might's vestige form? If it was just a flashbacks or last moment memory, I think Bakugo would've seen All Might like he sees him since his very childhood.
If this theory's true, I don't really know how Horikoshi's going to make it work, but it may be due to his relationship with Deku. Like ShigAFO said, Bakugo is the one who's closest to Deku, thus with this theory, could have access to the OFA/AFO world?
Honestly, this sounds very weird but that's the only reason I got for why Bakugo saw All Mights vestige form.
Like you said, the Edgeshot thing is very wacky and out of context. I don't know if Edgeshot will die, though. I don't know much about his quirk but maybe he could live?? idk.
Regardless of theory, I think it would be very surprising if Bakugo actually ends up dead. Such an important (and popular) character to die like _this_ without achieving "anything"? It would be so disappointing for his character development. + death in mha is pretty rare (nighteye, midnight..) those are not very important characters.
In a way, him dying would be symbolic to the other heroes but.. it feels wrong with the way Bakugo has been built up as a character.
I'm not gonna sit here and say this chapter was brilliantly written or anything, but I truly feel Horikoshi dug his own grave when he "killed" Bakugo in 362. It was such a sloppy way to kill a character, I was genuinely furious at the story in that moment, that I'm just happy there's a chance he could come back. It's pretty stupid, but it's not the worst outcome, because at least he didn't bring Eri to this battlefield or use her to heal Overhaul (who wouldn't help anyways). I also do really like the theme of the older generation protecting the younger generation, especially when they fucked up by bringing kids to war, seeing someone step up and sacrifice himself to save them hits pretty hard. Edgeshot kind of is a nobody, but he's been around enough to make me think "oh that's cool", although I agree I wish we got more of him and got to know him more. He's also the #4 top hero, so not exactly some random dude on the street. I'm hoping the next few chapters could maybe make this scene make a bit more sense, cause right now it is really stupid, but idk... Just the pure relief that Bakugo isn't dead is enough to make me enjoy the chapter. I don't think it necessarily removes stakes because 1, a hero had to die for this to happen and 2, people still very well may die in this arc. I don't think any students will, but I think some pros may die, like Endeavor, Hawks, and the others at the Shiggy fight.
I'm also interested to see if Hori explores Bakugo's guilt after this. One of his best moments was him speaking about how guilty he felt for making All Might retire... Now a pro hero DIED to save him, and a few more around him may very well die as well. It's gonna do a lot for his character I feel. Idk, after this I really feel like Horikoshi needs to do some GOATED shit with Bakugo in order to make peace with some fans who hated this development. He better not let this moment go to waste. But yeah in summary, I liked the chapter, and I understand it's critiques, I just hope people can be more respectful about it is all. It just feels like it's impossible to talk about MHA these days without toxicity, but maybe I should get off twitter.
6:37 why would such a guy be on the battlefield...
btw bakugo's back idk y this vid is in my recommendation now
monki :3
Something else that bothers me personally about this moment is how it makes Bakugo's entire death feel like a manipulation. The whole "I couldn't ask you to sign my card" is so dumb now. Or seeing All Might as a vestige (ghost) or the scene with his mother. All that for nothing since he's going to revive. I don't understand why make Bakugo's death so dramatic if he's going to revive.
Why not have Momo create an artificial heart and someone implant it?
It's something we're doing now in the 2000s and with a few decades of regular medical development, combined with quirks, it's something that I'd expect to see in the world of MHA.
You still have the tense moment of "Is he going to make it?"
The only problem I can see is that I have no idea where Momo is located in relation to the rest of the heroes.
She cannot make organic material but they literally have Eri. I mean a child on the sidelines of war probably not but her quirk legitimately broke this damn manga. She can literally just reset bakugou since we know ever since Mirio reappeared that she has gained control over her power
When I got to the last panel of this chapter and saw “I will be the boy’s heart,” my brain was spassing out. For a while thought I was looking at Mirko and that they were gonna use her heart to replace Bakugo’s. It’s like my brain refused to believe what was happening in part due to the wtf nature of Edgeshot becoming Bakugo’s heart literally out of nowhere - and due to Edgeshot being a nothing character that I forgot even was on the battlefield.
Interesting perspective! However, I completely disagree with every point in this video loll I think that most people fall into a trap of trying to write the story for the Mangaka's instead of allowing the Mangaka to guide them through the story THEY have in mind. That is to say, you not knowing why Horikoshi is writing this way is not because it doesn't make sense AT ALL, but instead you just dont have the right lense to see HOW Horikoshi is writing his story now.
What is going on makes perfect sense narratively and especially thematically. It's NOT supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT for edgeshot AT ALL, but instead its supposed to emphasize the theme that Horikoshi is currently expressing, which IS NOT "What does it mean to be a hero". Also currently, the stakes are just as high considering Shiggy is quite literally the opposing threat to the characters in the battle currently.
Obviously I am inclined to making a video about this chapter to open up a new way of looking at this chapter. I believe most people are closing their minds to takes like these and that would most likely prevent them from even considering that there is a legitimate way to look at the story narratively and thematically and appreciate chapters like these. I thoroughly enjoyed this chapter 8/10 for me. That's not to say I enjoy every chapter of MHA, because I don't. But I believe I get what Horikoshi is doing with his story and it's marvelous!
lmfao look a consoomer
So what's the point in killing him off to just immediately revive him?
- Interesting perspective! However, I completely disagree with every point in this video -
So interesting if only you actually gave interesting arguments as to why you disagree.
- think that most people fall into a trap of trying to write the story for the Mangaka's instead of allowing the Mangaka to guide them through the story THEY have in mind. -
How do you know that this is the story that Horikoshi wants to write? How do you that Horikoshi wasn't forced to revive Bakugo? And that entire point of "THEY have in mind" is such a stupid argument. I'm pretty sure almost nobody WANTED Bakugo to die and get revived one chapter later.
- That is to say, you not knowing why Horikoshi is writing this way is not because it doesn't make sense AT ALL, but instead you just dont have the right lense to see HOW Horikoshi is writing his story now. -
My God! I love how you comment as if your OPINION is SUPERIOR to everyone else. YOU are the ONLY one who can fully understand Horikoshi nobody else. It's not like YOU are interpreting everything just like everyone else.
- It's NOT supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT for edgeshot AT ALL, but instead its supposed to emphasize the theme that Horikoshi is currently expressing, which IS NOT "What does it mean to be a hero". -
Again I love how you are framing your OPINION as SUPERIOR to everyone else. But I have a question how do YOU know that this is not supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT? Did you call Horikoshi and ask if this was supposed to be a character moment or are you interpreting the scenes just like everyone else?
Another question, if this wasn't supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT why give Edgeshot a flashback to make HIS CHARACTER more complex? And another question if this isn't supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT why Edgeshot and not Best Jeanist? I mean the character doesn't matter so why use Edgeshot? I'm sure it's not because he's the only character that Horikoshi can invent convenient abilities for the situation. But again if Edgeshot was chosen for his quirk then it would make this moment a CHARACTER MOMENT since Edgeshot would be the only CHARACTER who would have the quirk to save Bakugo. Right?
Yeah, the "theme" is "older generations sacrificing for the younger generation". Right? So I'm guessing that if Izuku died at the end of the story and Wash appear out of nowhere and revived him you're not going to criticize it. Or if Izuku saved Shigaraki by telling him to stop being evil (in the most simplistic way possible) you're not going to criticize it. Because the only thing that matters is the "theme" not the execution of the theme.
- Also currently, the stakes are just as high considering Shiggy is quite literally the opposing threat to the characters in the battle currently. -
Not really, having a strong villain doesn't mean that the stakes are high. If we use that logic Dragon Ball is one of the series with the highest takes ever because every single villain could destroy the earth and kill every important character in the series.
@@lostwater227 alright I am definitely not going to respond to that! But if you see in my comment, I clearly stated I’m inclined to make a video explaining my myself.
That’s why I was vague and not breaking down every point he made which I believe are false
@@MangaVation Yeah then why not write a comment saying. "Interesting perspective! However, I completely disagree with every point in this video. I'm going to do a video on my channel of my perspective on the situation."
Instead of writing things like:
"I think that most people fall into a trap of trying to write the story for the Mangaka's instead of allowing the Mangaka to guide them through the story THEY have in mind."
"That is to say, you not knowing why Horikoshi is writing this way is not because it doesn't make sense AT ALL, but instead you just dont have the right lense to see HOW Horikoshi is writing his story now."
"t's NOT supposed to be a CHARACTER MOMENT for edgeshot AT ALL, but instead its supposed to emphasize the theme that Horikoshi is currently expressing, which IS NOT "What does it mean to be a hero"."
Because you imply that your opinion is worth more than the rest because you write affirmations as if they were real arguments. Without giving actual arguments.
Bakugo would need more then his heart to be replaced, you also have his lungs, his rib cage and the brain damage Bakugo has taken for not having oxygen for several minutes. Why would Edgeshot even know its important to save Bakugo? Especially when Shiggy can just one shot Bakugo again with no trouble.
TBH I could be mad, but I just think this is funny.
Stupidest plot moment? Def.
FUNNIEST plot moment? ABSOLUTELY!
Oceaniz, you should do a rewrite on every mha arc.
While sometimes I think you're a bit nitpicky or expect more than you should from the story in your criticism, which isn't inherently a bad thing, this time I'm 100% in agreement.
These past MHA chapters in general have been hard to digest, but holy hell, this last one was something special.
yeah this series is just hurting me now. what is it with popular shounen falling apart towards the end like Naruto, jojolion and Bleach (the latter even doing it twice)
i despise the fact that heros dont face consequences for their actions. mangakas being scared of killing someone from the main cast make me so angry for no reason lol
I guess you missed Luffy failing to save Ace? Also Chainsaw Man killed iffy several major characters FYI
@@zemox2534 im talking about mha bozo
2:30 trying to figure out what hospitals have anything to do with super Mario
Is it literally called that?
It would’ve be cool if Bakugo died, because we must have sacrifices in life. TV-Y7 TV shows understood this
I do and don't agree with some of these points. I agree that how they're reviving Bakugo is absolutely ridiculous. Nothing about it makes any sense. Like seriously if you were gonna do that at least have it be Best Jeanist that at least has a drop of sense in it. But regardless it's being handled poorly. However I disagree that Bakugo dying would have been a good thing. I don't think they should have done a fake out death either, I think they just should've skipped this whole nonsense. Bakugo dying like that without much of an interesting fight of his own and without accomplishing much of anything would have been such a disappointment and lackluster ending to a character that up to this point has been pretty important. His death would have seemingly only served to be emotional fodder for Deku, which lets be real he doesn't even need at this point in the story. I think this whole story beat is nonsense and never should have happened. Maybe kill off another one of the students, someone we've spent time with but isn't such a key character. Or if they absolutely had to kill Bakugo at least do it after he has some kind of epic fight and had a moment that turns things some amount in favor for the heroes. Which also why doesn;t Bakugo have his own villian rival?? like Ochaco has Himiko but Bakugo just has Deku. Which I mean I love they're rivalry, but it's a friendly one and Deku also has a villain rival. I really love Bakugo as a character and it feels like he's just been used as emotional fodder for Deku along with being damseled multiple times. So frustrating.
Should have just brought him back in the final fight with a chapter to flashback how he came back or just do what Gintama did with Takasugi
I guess that's why they call him edge shot, coz they only needed a shot/panel to give some characterization *badum tsss*.
Nah man inoske rearainging organs is deffinatly dumber
How can you call Edgeshot a nobody? Don't you remember that spectacular fight that he had with Re-Destro? Oh, wait, *w e d i d n ' t s e e t h a t*
Was that is the manga? Sorry I haven't read it in a while
@@miavia4689 yes, I don't remember which chapters but there were like 4 pages of then fighting and then at the end of the arc they show a defeated Re-Destro
I feel like this series has a very bad habit of trying to cash in on the emotional deaths of characters who just never really had enough screen-time. For goodness' sake, the most impactful character death up to this point has been the BDSM superheroine who was largely played for comedy more than anything serious.
@@TheAzulmagia Hey, don't disrespect my boy Twice. But yeah, aside from him and Torino's fake death almost every character who dies got almost no screen time at all
When someone falls off a cliff in a western movie: I'm not buying it unless I see the body
Someone's heart explodes in a manga: I'm not buying it until the series is over
Ao coming back in Boruto after being nuked by a 10 tails bomb in Naruto Shippuden.
@@JesseGolo Kodachi would litteraly resurrect Jiraya if he was allowed to do so.
One Piece fans literally anytime a character “dies”
@@maxentirunos What? You don't know? He did in a roundabout way
@@drrafa4031 I know. I was being sarcastic. But it's frankly an attempt to bring back a fan favorite who died to try to regain some popularity.
Except it pissed off the fans of Naruto even more, and in the end, there is nothing that made us love Jiraya that's in the character anyway.
when edgeshot said "its sewing time" i lost my shit and cried. truly the manga of all time
its edging time sounds better in my head
😂😂😂😂
Tears of anger
Shut up
It's morbin time
Bakugo has helped sabatoge more heroes than he has villains.
Yep!
Stain won't be happy that his title as "The Hero Killer" is in danger of being usurped by Bakugo.
he's basically on Shigaraki's side atp
Hahaha So True, Poor Bakugou he WANTS to destroy Villains but his feats of past bullying overshadow his good achievements. He’s cause more ruin and sabotage towards the Heroes than the ACTUAL main Villain.
All Might, Gran Torino, Aizawa’s teaching career was on the line cause of his shitty behavior and now Edgeshot.
@@toadlord8594 Don't forget Izuku for the decade long bully streak, Kirishima for warping his beliefs on bullies, Aizawa for staking his credibility as a genuine teacher on Bakugou's actions etc.
this thumbnail and title combo makes it seem like edgeshot developed feelings for bakugo
It does lol
Best MHA ship
Bakushot
Edgego
🥰🥰🥰
@@roman108 Bakugou will LITERALLY have another man inside of him lmao!! He’s gonna have to live with that for his entire life.
The Bakugay movement grows stronger
@@crazyjay2388 your PFP is gold
I knew Hori didn't have the balls to kill off Bakugo, but this certainly wasn't what I expected as a way to bring him back lmfao.
Yeah I was expecting eri or for him to magically actually be ok but holy shit it’s so much weirder than I could have imagined.
it's sad though, he had so much impact on all the readers but then he just ruins the moment by bringing Bakugo back...
Its not that hori doesnt have the balls but do you actually think WSJ would allow Hori to kill off a money making character like bakugou?
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 Of course not. Because the people running Shonen have no balls. Which is ironic when you consider all the shit they allowed Fujimoto to get away with in Chainsaw Man. He was allowed to kill off half the cast and the way he killed off certain character was truly shocking
@@zemox2534 thats oartially because there isnt 1 particqlluar character in Chainsawman that pumps in that Cash quite like bakugou.
Bakugou is a number 1 character in most charts and polls.
He alone makes wsj so much money.
Wsj only cares about money
I didnt expect him to stay dead, but I also didnt expect it to be handled so comically bad, i honestly laughed as I read it.
How is it bad?
@@digimonlover1632 watch the video lmao
RIP Edgeshot. He'll always be in our hearts... Too soon?
LMAOOOO
Took me a second to realize it, when I did a laugh pretty hard
underrated joke
i CAN BREATHE
IM WHEEZING
Even stupider is Edgeshot is STILL ALIVE.
Dude is just a head on a string that hss snspped off and is talking to All Might.
?????
I remember having a discussion with someone where I mentioned that MHA has a bloated, underutilized cast, but they routinely throw in heroes we're meant to care about right before killing them off. I talked about how there's so much space that could be utlized discussing pro heroes, especially the top 10. I even used Edgeshot as an example of someone who could be fleshed out. They said I was exaggerating and Edgeshot was not important and that's why he has no arc.
My, how the tides have turned.
i said the exact same thing about midnight as well before she died. im so glad someone else shares that opinion. god just imagine how much more time we could've spent with the heroes (teachers specifically too), during... their 2nd or maybe 3rd year.
before midnight died, i wish they'd spend time with little snippets of her day to day life, while tieing it nicely to, let's say.. an internship of someone else. it could feel like natural progression, while also exploring the side cast. just like they did with nighteye and mirio. we could've gotten more insight on the big three as well, (instead of shoving Nejire's backstory in the final arc LMAOOOO) it just could've all been neatly compressed over the span of 3 years in universe, instead of having this all happen in 1 year. would've made for so much more planning and breathing room, and also many more chances for the teachers and other heroes to get great screentime.
but nah
It's amazing how many heroes Horikoshi badly wasted with the top 10 heroes being the worst offender since with the exception of Endeavor and Ryukyu to an extent they are barely fleshed out and in some cases like Yoroi Musha we DON'T EVEN GET TO SEE HIS QUIRK!!! How the hell can you create this idea of an elite group of heroes yet not EVEN be bothered to showcase one of their quirks thus making us wonder why is he even in the top 10 in that case?! And the less said about Star and Stripe the better.
I lost my investment in MHA a while ago. I'm still reading it week to week but I don't have the same emotional attachment to it I had before. It sucks for people who feel cheated but this is fucking hilarious to me. Like, if Bakugo lives past this battle does he spend the rest of his life with a heart made out of a guy? How will this impact his healthcare going forward? So many dumb questions to never be answered. I like to imagine Edgeshot will spend the rest of Bakugo's life consciously pumping his blood, regulating blood pressure, always awake but never fully aware. Cannot wait to see how this gets worse, hoping for a perfect trainwreck ending.
This is exactly how I feel towards this series and the recent chapters too lmaoo, it's going to be a very entertaining disaster
Yea every since Deku stoped being dark/serious just turning over a new leaf when it came to the state of Japan, and just became normal old Deku again, Stars and Stripes, the traitor plot came out of nowhere with TWO fake outs, Bakugou death fake out, Random All For One face reveal, Deku’s STILL not in the final battle yet, it just feels like…😐 I was confused on what to enjoy here😭
honestly same im just reading because hey might as well, it is hilarious especially hearing my friend who does not give a shit about mha but knows spoilers talk about bakugo having a JEART, a jean heart that sent me into a big fit of laughter, even if bakugo doesn't have a Jeart but a heart made out of edgeshot is still funny to me, i am shocked this is the actual way the story is progressing.
Gentle Criminal and La brava broke the series for me, most of the villains are a joke. Especially hero hunter, I dont get how the fanbase can like such a hipocritical character. But I like Muscular and the Yakusa guys.
When Edgeshot used his special move, I saw it as a serious ass-pull, even the implementation of it was pretty weird, since I thought he'd just wrap himself around Bakugo's heart and compress and relax his entire body... but regardless, MHA has gotten kind of stale and generic in recent time
I remember Horikoshi stating that Bakugo was supposed to play a big role in this final arc so I want to believe that there’s going to be more to him being revived than him simply dying and coming back. Hori tends to do this kind of stuff like when he had the whole fanbase believe Hagakure was the UA traitor for week only for it to be Aoyama. Hopefully I’m right because if not this would be a really strange writing choice by Hori.
My trust in Hori's writting is dead after je ended the Edgy Deku arc after 2 chapters in a boring "Friendship is magic" Moral.
Only to Disprove it in the current arc were every exept Deku is useless
@@plinfan6541 deku was never edgy at all. And the show always been about friendships literally never a time that it wasn’t
@@goddessyamato5238 I mean, him running around town looking like a Demon with no sleep was pritty edgy.
And resolving and shifting character arcs should be more then just "Friendship". 90% of all Shonen have strong Friendship elements, but they should not be treated as a end all be all. If the characters actully addressed Deku's Selfdestructive behaviour it would have been far more satisfiying.
As it stands now the manga instead opts with everyone working together being the solution, which is a downright farce as we see in the current arc were people eat shit and Deku needs to come in to save the day.
@@plinfan6541 that’s not edgy whatsoever
@@plinfan6541 this is a anime based off of heroes and villians friendship is definitely going to play big role. Like what else u want him to do have all these people just walk around sad and depressed half the time and these kids still in high school in a modern day setting
Why would they sacrifice the number 4 pro hero for a student who’s already almost dead
Cuz.....like....themes....and sacrifice....and.....stuff... yeah.😒
-Bakugo was the only one that could deal damage to Shigaraki
-If any student had died UA would have gotten a bad rep + they are still students, and they had to go to the battlefield this early, its not fair them dying yet.
@@felipekane9611 That first one I'll give you but a pro hero shouldn't care about a school's reputation unless they're a teacher, and if anyone was bothered by kids on the battlefield knowing full they could potentially die, they wouldn't let them on it in the first place. That's a risk they chose to take.
@@felipekane9611 that second point is so dumb lmao.
Why would they care about UA students lifes, they were the ones that put them on the frontline
Why would a hero let a student die when he could prevent it?
I knew Bakugo wasn't gonna die, but I was dead sure they would bring out Overhaul since we haven't seen him since Deku beat Nagant
Using Overhaul would have been so cool. I also wanted Overhaul to use his quirk to ease Shigaraki’s destruction by separating the ground to stop Shiggy’s decay. MHA has so much missed potential.
I thought they were gonna send him to Recovery Girl somehow. She was LITERALLY the only person with an actual healing Quirk in the WHOLE FRANCHISE.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 I thought Eri or maybe Monoma would do something
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 What's Recovery Girl going to do with a ruptured heart? 🤣
@@chaseashley6775 didn't Overhaul get his hands cut off? Which was the primary way for him to utilize his powers
I see some people on Twitter say that Edgeshot's sacrifice is supposed to convey the older generation sacrificing themselves for the younger generation, but if Horikoshi wanted to convey that, then why not have Edgeshot sacrifice himself BEFORE Bakugo gets killed? If Edgeshot could take those fatal blows for Bakugo, then he could've preserved a young hero's life before trying this hail mary.
Also, if Best Jeanist wanted to do something why not control Bakugo's threads and move him around like Granny Chiyo did with Sakura, or Vanessa with Asta?
Also, if ypu want to convey this theme so much, why not use Jeanist? Make Bakugo be fatally wounded in a way Jeanist can die to save him, this way we have a man who has a previous connection with Bakugou, wanted to see him improve and had actual moments in thr story showcasing how much he's willing to do what's needed for the success of a mission! It would be a beautiful moment of a former teacher, giving his life up for the bratty student he had so much high hopes for to be able to continue developing, but no, we get Edgeshot, a piece of nothing
@@vcamv2354eanist don't even have to die since he just controls fiber and denim and junk
Or at the very least let them work together to save him
MHA chapter 405 spoilers:
Hori somehow managed to make this chapter worse today. Today it was revealed that edge shot isn’t the reason why bakugou came back to life, IT WAS ACTUALLY BAKUGO WHO BROUGHT HIMSELF BACK TO LIFE BECAUSE “a drop of sweat ran through Bakugou’s bloodstream and exploded inside of him, activating his heart (RukasuMHA on twitter).” Edgeshot then tells Bakugou “ I only connected the parts in place. It was your quirk you strengthened over the years that brought you back (RukasaMHA on twitter).” Also, edgeshot is still alive somehow, so there’s that smh. Horikoshi’s horror manga better be a masterpiece or else his career is over.
Im gonna be real, Horikoshi needs to be banned from making manga, both for the sake of his health and for ours.
@@Oceaniz The same goes for Gege (author of Jujutsu Kaisen) as well. It's crazy how two of my favorite mangas have been going downhill since 2021 because both authors have lost interest in their series and are trying to finish it as fast as possible so they can work on their next manga (Hori wants to make a horror manga, while Gege wants to make an idol manga).
I’m gonna go look this up and I swear to god if you’re lying to me…..
Wtf you weren’t lying…
So,why not All Might?If he can become organs why not replace the organs All Might lost?
THANK YOU
All Might is still alive. Would you essentially kill yourself for someone who can still function properly without your help? Didn't think so
I’m like half sure that wouldn’t work because of the fact that he doesn’t have one for all anymore
@@garlicamvs6235 would heal his organs still.
To be fair I'm pretty sure he didn't know. All MIght kept his failing state a secret to everyone, he always maintained his muscle form in front of general public. ANd when it did become known All MIght had already sacrificed OfA so even if he did heal his organs All MIght wouldn't be of much help since he's pretty much quirkless now.
Rick: Turns into a pickle.
Eren: Turns into a birb.
Edgeshot: Turns into a heart!
Regoku and Bakugo: Turn into Doughnuts.
@@stevenquartzcutiepiedemayo8272 Bakugo turns into a churro, and Deku turns into a donut. If you know what I mean!
The only thing I like about MHA are the villains tbh at this point. And even now I'm a bit disappointed about Shigaraki being mostly controlled by AfO when they are both amazing villains separately and I like it when they show their assets and villainy separated.
still waiting for a shonen manga where the MC's rival/very important character just dies. like in jojo!
SHIZAAAAAAAAA
With the general state of intense fandoms today, that's never gonna happen
The only other Shonen i can think of that actually kills important people off is Chainsawman, but i feel like we haven't seen enough of the cast to care a lot about their deaths the way JoJo did it
@@manvslife271 what about jjk?
@@coca_0146 Idk dude haven't read it sorry
This is exactly why so many people I know like the League of Villains better then the kids, because they are allowed to actually be at risk and die. They can actually change and have character development.
Bakugo kills Heroes and Shigaraki kills Villains, maybe they should switch sides
In the end of the day, even though it's believable Edgeshot can do that, as far fetched as it is, my biggest problems are these 3:
1- The previous 2 chapters where MEANINGLESS, as Bakugou's "death" led to NOTHING, not even to Midorya getting angry and getting there on a rage mode. Just, pure bait for the readers
2- Edgeshot is a NOTHING CHARACTER! The man supposedly knew Jeanist since highschool but when Jeanist was thought dead, we got nothing from Edgeshot! A wasted opportunity to show their friendship, or to show Edgeshot being affected by it, to also showcase better how connected the heroes can be. Edgeshot was just a background cool character, perfect to be tossed aside to bring back Bakugou like a trap card you never knew was set-up
3,(The biggest one)- It robbed Jeanist of saving Bakugou! If Bakugou had been just severely damaged and was like, almost dead in a way Jeanist could help, it would be an amazing moment of a character who was one of the first to believe in Bakugou and try to help him, a character who "died" to help the heroes and the new gen, a great support who had been important in the war and brought to the light to us, a character who had a connection with Bakugou and would have given us a meaningfull moment, just like All Might with Deku, of a former big hero giving his life/strenght/faith to the next gen he helped to raise closely!
That's what I hate in this chapter, it robbed Jeanist from having a great, impactful, memorable character moment with Bakugou
This, this right here. I was so on board with this being another rage baot for deku as it could lead to him having an actually amazing fight in the series....sighs....oh well.
Points 2 and 3 are fair, but point 1 is definitely too early to say. We don’t know what Hori has planned for why he did this
@@GiraffeBlood Even then, what was the point of the previous chapters now? Even if Bakugou's death was supposed to some character, means nothing for the reader as we know he's still alive. If he's gonna come back awaken, it'll feel kinda cheap. If he's gonna come back changed, well, that's not the best way to finish his character development. No matter his plans, the previous 2 chapters where everyone reflected on Bakugou's death, are now muddled as, well, it didn't mattered ad he's going to come back. And, if he'a going for "This not gonna work, it'll fail" it'll just mean 2 characters will die, for maybe some very cool fight moments and a goodbye, which will still be a bit muddled by the bait and we don't even know if will be good or not. The next chapters might rederm this moment, yes, but the last two are already muddled
I agree, I expected Izuku to go Berserk, but then nothing happened! WTH!!
Jeanist only control fibres so they would've been no way for him to help.
Nobody is talking about how weird it would look in world for a hero with way more experience to suddenly sacrifice himself for some dead high-schooler
Thank you so much for this comment. I think the same.
I’m late but you have to understand. In that fight, bakugo did the most damage in the fight. He was the only one to make Shiggy actually try
My hero academia took something amazing with a trillion good possibilities and boiled down into a selfish narrative that doesn't mean anything at all.
All of the good things are spoiled, ruined, or broken outright. Characters we have been in love with since the series began are off-screened with comedic timing.
I love how the show every media outlet and youtuber constantly called "A breath of fresh air in subverting cliche shounen tropes" in 2016 reverts to the worst shounen tropes from a Toriyama manga 27 years older than it, in the most vital chapter of it's run.
All that bragging from 2016 really made this moment hurt a lot harder.
It really wasn’t that much of a subversion compared to other series like HxH, but it did some of that decently enough, and the potential was so high and yet this is the result
I'm not gonna front anyone for being angry but I've been genuinely enjoying what's been going on week to week. I may be brainwashed but I'm enjoying my self
respectable and raw. we stan an unbothered king
Someone acknowledging that they enjoy different things without bullying people for thinking otherwise? Godsend.
honestly envy you for that; wish I could feel the same :') but I'm also happy for you and anyone else who can still enjoy it. you keep doing you~
Joker: That it. That's what I like to see. A nice. Big. Smile...
Jesus christ...
This shit is so wholesome, I love it
I know the out of universe reason.
Bakugo is the most popular character and the deuteragonist of the series. Hori did say in a interview that fans of this character will either love it ot hate it. I just don't see anywhere else for the character to go to be honest.
But yeah Hori does alot of things don't make sense other than it looks cool in his arc. It's just random bullshit.
But then dont kill him that clean cut but nearly.
"i'Ts a sHouNen mAnga WhY wOulD expeCt hiM tO diE"
Jjk:
Csm:
Aot:
Not to mention, why is Bakugo even important enough to save? Edge shot is a powerful pro hero with years of experience who would be far more useful to defeating Shigaraki compared to Endeavor Lite
because [apparently] bakugo is an important key to deku and OFA (basically he needs the power of friendship to win)
1. Why should someone even be important to deserve to be saved? Are you asking why do heroes save people?
2. Bakugo actually seemed stronger than all the pro heroes involved in that fight.
@@iammemys2213 1. I get the whole "prioritize the injured" thing, but this is a circumstance where you can safely throw that shit out. Priority number fucking one should be killing the man who levels literal cities.
2. Bakugo got one-shotted. What's stopping the lovecraftian horror from doing it again? Also, not even five chapters after this, Mirko kicks his ass with two prosthetic limbs, so I doubt this fifteen year old with an inferiority complex would be much more of a help.
@@zekchomenko2927 Mirko also immediately got packed just like Bakugo after doing so and only after AFO decided he’s gonna stop being scared of dead minors.
Best Jeanist also mentioned that they needed his firepower to stand a chance before Bakugo decided he didn’t wanna be in this ass story anymore. They didn’t know when Deku would arrive so if it’s a case of trying to win. Obviously they revive him if they could.
We know newer quirk gens have stronger quirks as a whole. Bakugo’s the only one who’s has shown lasting visible damage not named Deku.
@@Jaymizuband I know newer quirks are stronger, it's a big part of Quirk Singularity Theory (not much of a theory anymore, I suppose) after all, but why is this BARELY TRAINED 16 YEAR OLD more important than LITERAL TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. If he's the only one to do lasting damage than clearly the currently existing pros should pack their fucking bags right now since their getting outclassed by some asshole teenager.
Realized this after clicking post: Mirko may have gotten folded like a half priced mattress after kicking AFO's ass for a chapter, but she still kicked his ass for a whole chapter, which considering she only has two of her original limbs, isn't half bad. Bakugo, on the other hand, got one half-decent shot in then fucking died.
I have another conspiracy theory/headcanon: this war arc was supposed to happen on 3rd year and one of bakugou internships was with edgeshot. The guy is literally a top 5 hero, the only thing we knew about him was that he is a ninja and always cool and collected. I can see a story where Bakugou loses his temper and let a villain get away, so he decides to become better and goes to the most controlled top 5 guy, edgeshot.
Now edgeshot sacrifice helped makes thematic sense: two mentors help together and sacrifice a lot to save their pupil, heroism and old guard passing the torch to the new guard all tied up in a nice bow
I love this so much you have no idea thank you
Even a random guy on the internet like you is a better writer than Horikoshi. lol
What's 4+4= ATE!!
the chapter Bakugo died, I remember telling my friends Hori backed himself into a corner. Either he kills one of the fan favorites, or he revives him in a bullshit way... but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad
i actually laughed when i read this chapter. even fanfics don’t stoop this low! what’s the point of killing off a character if it’s going to be reversed in two chapters? why not just knock him out instead? why the fuck did edgeshot just have a random wash bubble in his pocket just for this occasion?????
It's sad how you can see that horikoshi started not caring and just rolled with everything just to end the manga
I honestly agree. Working at weekly jump is usually harder that monthly, and it could contribute to Horikoshi burning out. Also it seems that hes already tires of his story, and it's sad. It would been grate if Horikoshi took one month hiatus to rest and refresh himself a little.