Another tip, never take the affliction that "might" take you to a different room, 9 out of 10 times it will take you to the worst affliction room and it's gonna be bad
I had one run where I got railroaded into that one and then it forced me into -40% damage done and immediately followed by +50% enemy life. The "no energy shield" one it forced on me a bit later was the icing on that shit cake I got forcefed 😶
its not very ethical but if you get this affliction and the wrong room opens, you can leave the trial and rejoin and select the room again, also might get patched as it was on a popular yt channel lol
@@TheOnyxSpy lol, happened to me 3 rooms before the 4th boss, ended running out of honor after like 10 minutes because my build is not super strong, so that's why I wrote the comment
I haven't done the third and 4th ascension points yet because for a while I kept rerolling when I got to maps to try out different classes/builds. But I like trial of Sekhema way more than Chaos trial. Thanks some of the tips in this were things I didn't know and I am finally going for my third group of ascension points soon. This will be helpful. As far as first two ascension runs for new players my biggest and best tip is just go in over leveled by 8-10 levels and you will breeze through. Those first 4 points aren't THAT huge of a buff that you require them to progress. Overleveling the trials takes the stress off while learning them.
Omg I didn’t know you had to put the relics in the altar! I feel like a complete fool. I’ve gotten halfway to the third boss with no relics on a warrior. I bet I’ll get it this time.
Huh, that's a good thing to pass to the developers as feedback. Adding a tutorial section to slot in your first relic so that this mechanic can't be overlooked.
if you got two +3 merchant relics its almost 100% you will find 50% price reduction by the end of second floor. From there you can buy whole house each time.
This, very much this. Lowering merchant prices is so important bc it scales very quickly into you just clearing the whole sale, regardless of the options. Increasing the choice count ups the chance for you to find that boon early, and it trivializes your run very quickly. Another tip I have is to only take 2 three slot length relics with 31-35% honour resistance, getting you to ~65%. Most of the time you're gonna get the 30% increased effect of relics boon, pushing your resistance to 75% easily, and saving one suffix worth of honour resistance is a lot in a scenario where you only have 6-7 of them. Technically, you can take it one step further and sit on 75/1.3≈57% Resistance (requiring only one three slot and one two slot relic), but you'll be on a higher risk of dying before you get said boon, or you might even get lower resistance bc of the affliction which lowers the effects of your relics. My build can perform even on that lvl, but you might need to test the waters first before relying on it.
if you struggle to beat it for the first time get a level 75 Djinn Barya, I think they drop at maps with tier 11 waystones, or buy one from trade the first floor will be level 75 monsters. I think level 75 is the lowest that gives 4 floors. correct me if I am wrong.
@@LOjha876w6HUiBajhajsjxh get the right relics. Get 75% honor resist, 100% Max honor, 50% extra keys found, 3 merchant choices, 10% reduction in merch cost, and 100% increased defenses. You will blow through them and I get at least 5 divines a day selling runs.
This video is the first time I’ve ever heard someone say “very fun” and “trial of sukmyass” in the same sentence 😂😂 Awesome video though, man. Been watching since the game released and your content has been very informative. Thanks!
I can get through them without issue but still don't enjoy them. I'm not sure any amount of rewards will bring me back after getting my asc points as I already have to do them for each character...not to mention every upcoming league.
It'd be nice if GGG actually fixed this trial on PS5. It's been 2 months, and on PS5, if you fail the trial by losing all of your honour, it locks the game. The only way to restart is by closing the game down entirely and reloading because GGG forgot to put a restart button prompt on the failure screen. As somebody who is new to POE, this trial took me a few goes to complete, and having to restart my game every time I failed was a huge pain in the arse!
After getting to 75% resists, I go for increased damage to bosses, both on relics and boons. No need for speed on 4th boss if you kill him before you get to that phase.
Just recently got the 4th ascension, was so stoked! Your tip regarding merchant + options on relics - def gunna try this for time-lost farming really good suggestion, I’ve totally overlooked it on relics but will hafta check the locker to see if I even have a tapestry with that mod. Also too: and this might be annoying for some and slows things down. But after competing a room (and depending on the room) I tend to go back to farm lingering mobs and breaking pots/opening chests for rolls on sacred water drops. This isn’t always game changing and there is the danger of potentially getting hit, but getting the extra bits of water can mean having _just enough_ for an extra merchant boon, although I would avoid doing this on floor 4.
One other thing worth mentioning is that you don't have to do the trial all at once, no? And that you can bring up the room map tree at any time with the hotkey for league mechanics. I think they need to do a bit more work on it, balance-wise. Like l don't think "minor" means what the designer thinks it does ;) No way is losing your primary defensive stat a minor thing (unless it is armor, hehe). They need to add some "major" boons/afflictions, recategorize what goes where, and probably have it be somewhat smart (losing armour for an ES build is minor/not-an-affliction-at-all). I think melee (the real kind, not quarterstaff) still needs some work in the honour department. The "change the deal" option also needs work. It's typically garbage. Yes, you can get rid of a bad affliction, but if you don't have that, well, are you going to risk bricking your run on it giving you a random affliction? So it becomes a blank node, then which is still better than a guaranteed affliction. But what it says, about changing the parameters, and what it does, swapping one bit of RNG for another, aren't the same. And it should have some changing parameter options mixed in, that aren't related to the generally available boons/afflictions. Also, I think guantlets suck. Maybe some people like them, but I'd be willing to bet they're the exception. Ascendancy-wise, you should only have to run 1 trial to unlock yours and get 2 points. For the rest, you should get one point per act completed. The current system of tying it to the trials doesn't result in the "accomplishment" that the devs seem to think, but instead, frustrates far too many players and results in mass carrying services. It's a bad idea requiring those high level trials to get the points, and it needs to be dumpstered.
Great Video for Starting Trials. You should look deeper through the Relics an Relics Quantity to really max out an run. Here is some ideas to max out ;) Relics drop Quantity for Double Drop of Zakoh (If you go over 100 Quantity with Relics got Seal or Urn ) Relics which reduced Merchant and adds choices (imo most important for smoove runs i add 2 Amphora lef and right side with " 2 Choices added / 7-10% Reduced Market Price) Relics for Honour Resis/Max Honour is key to survive but once you know the mechanics you dont need as much as you think imo
good vid. for my runs, the only important boons are hares foot and ornate dagger. these are the only two i need to feel comfortable to complete the run
Finally finished it tonight. Been trying for days. Monsters take 20% more damage is good, so is honour restored on room completion, there's a lot of rooms. Hares foot is good because then you can take the 15% reduction and it won't hurt your speed. Same with see rooms ahead.
Close to level 80 on my Infernalist Necro and I've given up on running the trials, even to finish the Ascendancy. It would only give me ~32 extra spirit anyways.
My 4th ascension run was the worst but somehow I managed with lots of luck... I had golden smoke and red smoke so all I was able to see was just the afflictions I could get from each room so I was avoiding all purple rooms. :D I got super lucky and had a rabbit foot and 50% damage bonus and blasted through the last floor.
I tried the 4th ascension trial for the first time earlier today. Had >75% honor resist, 14k max. First 3 floors were a walk in the park... The only problem with the run being the traps/trap rooms coming up more than average... I fall in the category of people who thinks they don't belong in an ARPG. The net result was that i lost, maybe, ~1k honor over the three floors as I would slide in to the various traps, trying to navigate from tiny safe spot to tiny safe spot (Hint: I have since tried WASD movement for the first time... Its a radically different and better game. I'd argue the difference is on par with controller vs M&K in Counter Strike. I suspect the entire game, has been balanced around WASD, and I strongly urge anyone who's not tried it yet, do so!) Anywho... so I start floor 4 with 12k honor in the bank with no afflictions to worry about... Easy peasy, surely...? Well... the First enemy in the first room of the 4th floor nuked all that honor and ended my run in only two hits and within seconds...Barely had time to register the fact the first chunked me down from 12k to 8k honor, before the next one sent me packing.... Not a scooby-do.... Not sure if a bug (and/or lag. And/or unloaded or culled enemy or trap).... bad difficulty scaling (though, I don't see it being this given the rest of the game is well balanced).... or misunderstanding on my part in terms of the mechanics... (I mean this is entirely possible as I don't listen /read any NPCs dialog...)
Great video! I think this trial is a great mechanic. I have the 4th ascension yet to do, and was wondering about the relic priorities. You confirm that after honour resistance (which you absolutely need to cap at 75% starting at 3 floor runs) the priority should be merchants. I knew about the tip that you can skip the pledge affliction if none of the options are benficial, but I didn't know the subtlety between "on entry' and with reward! This is huge! Anyway, this is why I love Path of Exile! The game is there to be broken 😄 It's a puzzle, I love it so much. My goal for tomorrow is to do my 4th ascension. May be I'll rip, but I have to do it now 😀
Relic priority is generally personal preference, but mine is a healthy balance of Honor Resist, Max Honor, Increased Defense (these 3 for survivability), Bosses take increased damage, hits against you have reduced crit chance (these are optional but very handy), See (1-3) rooms extra, Extra trader choices, Reduced trader price (these are also very helpful but usually are stuck on the super big 1x4 relics). Hope this generally swayed you in a helpful direction, I know it's still a lot of choices
A couple of other random tips: * For builds that use Energy Shield, the Lustrous Lacquer boon is very powerful. It increases your ES by 50% which also translates into increased honor. * Rooms with Blessing of the Wind are some of the best in the trial. The blessing removes a random affliction and gives you a random boon.
I was on a great run about half way through floor 2 and then I decided to take the merchant with a random affliction...bad idea😢 I got the affliction "you have 0 energy shield" I'm all energy shield so it ruined my run, my honour went to the hundreds. Just horrible so be careful ppl!🎉
as far as the party loot goes you can change it in the group window, free for all / short / permanent allocation. Also the pledge that gives you 3 minor boons and Death toll is a huge win if you have honour resistance and a plus as a armour stacker. it will deal 900 damage reduced by honour resistance and armour on the charachter
I have so many of the drops to enter sekhema, no one buys them whereas I sell the other trial key in batches regularly. Definitely would be nice to turn them into some value. Thanks for the tips.
You want slow reduction/+movement speed also for the speed node minigame on Zaroch. For that, you also want to get the furthest node first because you walk slower and slower as your time is running out.
Maybe ive missed you saying it, but getting to 92% increased quantity of relics dropps by monsters will guarantee a 2nd unique relic dropping in the end.
I recently went back to them and done a few runs. I'm lvl 93 with really good gear so the trials are trivial but I found the rewards to be really hit or miss. Where as the chaos trials always give you soul cores and fates worth something, these ones often times don't give you anything of value, there is a chance you win big with some of the unique but I'm yet to see an item worth anything more than couple ex
I couldve smashed through for my third ascendency points but the damn game keeps lagging and the traps is what got me. The enemies dont even touch me because they explode in groups with my deadeye herald of thunder/ice. Its the damn connection and the traps working together
My advice as someone who grinds trails: You have to make a build that can kill Zarokh under a minute, before he starts his fase 2. (Single target build) Without needing any boon. The final boss really is the only hard thing in the trails so when you can beat him easy and fast you just have to play the rest smart. There's a lot of corners in hour glass where if you stand there no one chases you, one mob wil spawn close to you just far enough to reach it without moving. Those are free rooms I call them, just look for a corner and you'll see. My relics have 77% resistances, 70% max honour, 200 honour after killing a boss and 90% to boss damage. Target rooms with water fountains and avoid inflictions.
Oooor you could have reasonably high block or evasion and just basically manfight Zarokh because all those orbs he throws are weak and highly inaccurate.
On the party restriction note: in social settings -> party, the party leader can set the (loot) allocation to "free for all" to make every item accessible to everyone except some specific ones like maps (which usually goes to the owner of the instance) and items pre-allocated for all present players (like skill gems) iirc. If you're with friends who don't snatch that divine orb on sight, this option is more comfortable.
Where does the friend need to be in the 4th trial boss to also get their Ascension? Can they sit in the room before him until he dies or they need to 'witness' it and sit in the room?
For accendencies it's better to do chaos trials, takes like 15 mins for the whole thing. Ofc there are the unique items exclusive to trial of suckmyass.
There is a loot option in the general settings that can be toggled to time restrict loot drops or just have it be free for all. Is it possible that’s what you saw when you partied with others?
Hi bro your content is great i have question some people make exalt just boosting in that area how it works? If you reach final boss you can message to global ?and find who want to boost?
At 8:28, you are wrong about avoiding the affliction on the water fountain, I think you are mistaking it with the venerate shrines which heal you and afflict you with an affliction, that room always gives you the affliction on entry whether or not you use the water fountain.
Seconding this, that shrine has a very easily identifiable symbol (purple sign on fountain) so you won't need to hover over each node to check. Avoid purple borders if you can, purple sign on fountain is fine to path through (as long as you don't drink from the fountain) if there's no better pathway.
i still haven't completed 3rd ascendency, was done with that place. im a casual player only do 2 maps a day after work. hope they will change it a bit when the game launches. for instance; you cant get 4 trial keys until you completed 3 trials.
I hate it is not optional. It is basically a roguelike, and I am not playing PoE2 to play a roguelike. If I wanted to, I'd go and play Hades, since that is actually fun and well built. Making a roguelike in an ARPG is just...
It is 'optional'. The other option currently is the Trial of Chaos which some hate more than the Trial of Suckehmas. Trial of Chaos keeps crashing on me so I really only have one 'choice' atm. GGG will add a third option later too (though it seems worse than the first two at first glance imo)
That's what I thought first, but the mechanic is actually solid and fun to break. Once you "break it" it's really not that hard, and becomes fun and rewarding 😊
Getting increased max honor is only useful if your evasion isn't high enough. High damage is very important... but silver tongue and increased sacred water are the best boon in the game. assassins dagger is the worst... so if you get the boon that makes your next boon a greater... taht's the one to go for.
Is this lvk 75 version safer than the chaos trial for ascension if i'm smart about afflictions and have the right relics? I only saved my hc char cuz i had omen of resurgence and killed the 3rd boss but i dipped out after it
Since the partying in the trials was mentioned, and since I've never seen anyone writing about this, I'm going to mention a downside to party play, purely from my experience: when doing a room together, if the party/trial leader takes damage/goes into a trap and loses honour, the others also lose honour. That's what happened to me when my friend ran the trial and went into gauntlet traps while I was staying in a corner doing nothing. I just watched my honour bar emptying out. If someone could tell me what could have caused this so it wouldn't happen again, it would be much appreciated.
NOPE! That's not where I got my 3rd or 4th ascendancy. I only ever got my 1st ascendancy on Sekhames across all four of my characters. Then, I did 2nd thru 4th on Trial of Chaos. With CI, Trial of Chaos becomes exponentially easier. And, best of all, NO HONOR SYSTEM BS!!
I am a new player, I was warrior level 87 when I tried , and manager to beat all 4 floors. So, yes, new players can do this! It was so fun that I searched online for reasons to keep doing! It gives a feeling of rogue like on this game, and it is awesome! The point is that players that likes rogue like will love, players that don't like rogue like will not be pleased. It enriches the game!
If you can beat floor 4 consistently you can make some good money just running trials. If you have high dps and can kill the boss easily you can even sell carries
I am also a new player. I was lvl 87 when I was finally able to get my 3rd ascension. I don't know if I'll get a 4th one. Weird because I can do lvl 18 maps just fine.
hey brother, great video as always. by chance do you have a link to a guide to your build. I have a similar one but it seems I am unable to scale my damage further
Hey, I made an elemental monk build, like 5 or videos back. that's like 90% of my build, big changes since then are adding the "hands of wisdom and action" unique gloves and getting more raw stats scales damage well. also getting good rings with "adds 1-60 lightning damage" give a ton of damage
Great video! Ive already beaten the 4th boss tho so unless im helping someone, no more Trial of Sigmas for me lol. I just dont think its very fun and it takes too long for a "chance" at something decent.
I dislike how vague everything is and the total lack of direction, and getting the Alt info just makes even more confusing, like what power level do the 3 and 4 run bayra's actually drop ?
I like the trials but finding it too hard. Guess my build isn't there yet. Can not get final 2 ascensions. May try again at a later date when build is better.
Are non-unique relics one-time use each time you activate them? Also, when running with a group, do you share honor? When my partner gets hit, does it hit my honor?
I've group run the trials, not recommended. You each get your own honor bar depending on health and energy shield, but if anyone gets hit it depletes every person in the groups honor bar. So realistically you have to watch out for the lowest persons honor bar.
yeah i think if 1 person gets hit, you both get hit, so you'll be held back if someone is super low level. You both have sperate bars with different honour amounts. And yeah non-uniques can be used forever, once you have good ones, you're set!
yes they can do fine on 4th floor doesnt matter what build you are but you need lots of dps for single target. eith hammer of the gods or perfect strike to nuke down boss. warrior also has access to reduced slowing potency of debuffs on the passive tree which will help with the final boss. you can also get it on relics as well. its a suffix
I can complete all the rooms and kill all the other bosses in about 5 seconds flat. I can complete much higher level trial of chaos easily, but the damn last boss of trial of sekhemas takes so little damage i will literally run out of mana potions before i beat them.
I had the same issue, switched the mana flask to one with “gain x charges per second.” The flask wasn’t as strong as my other one but it helped sustain the mana amidst the long fight - whilst you are drinking you are perpetually building charges which keeps you topped off. After doing this I downed him pretty smoothly.
I've been playing on controller and the traps are fine it's those stupid timed rooms when you have to activate the hour glass but it's surrounded by monsters and you cant target it, my god Ggg fix this crap, just make it so you have ti walk close
I got to the trial of time but the damage to became frustrating. This is mind rotting to farm for because it takes a long time to get to the end stage unlike with trial of chaos which is easier compared to this
How do you carry your friend without them needing to run with you the entire run? I know you can go out of the trials and back in. Do they need to be in the final boss room when you beat him?
You leave the run (townportal or at the console where you select the next room). You then invite your friend and reopen the run. You then enter at the "console room" where you select where you go next. Your friend waits there while you continue into the next (boss) room. You then kill it and then your friend can move through to the altar getting their ascendancy points.
4 floors starts at level 75? I got lower enemy levels on each floor using a lvl 75 compared to my level 80... Now that's not a big sample size so idk if anyone can confirm, but otherwise I'd advice people to try and get a level 75 if they struggle beating it for the first time. I think tier 11 waystones maps will drop the lvl 75 djin.
Man it sucks so bad, cuz the game is a TON of fun….. But at the same time it’s COMPLETELY NOT fun at all sometimes :/ there are MULTIPLE instances while playing when I’m just like, WTF was GGG even thinking!?? They OBVIOUSLY don’t play their own games….like every other damn developer
Both chaos and this are terrible too much rng , they are ok if it was not tied to your character Ascending, idk if it's good to test your build as you are inflicted with nerfs
I got all the way through once without losing much honor only to get hit by a fire trap on double speed and kill me almost instantly due to a ball roll dodge which glitched me. Rage quit right away
TIP one should be farm maps until you get about 60 ex then stay up late find some guy selling runs for 60 ex and then you'll never have to go in that place again. It should be called trials of gauntlet because that's the only room you get 70% of the run. I hate those rooms it's not a skill check it's just to waste your time and set you up to fail or fail the next room. So many times I'd make it past all the traps and fire bs just to have a mob jump on me off screen and push me into a trap then I lose 90% honor and have to start a boss fight next room with 20 honor. That's been my luck each time I do them I even have a build that can just nuke the bosses but it's always those trap rooms and I'll get them like 2 or 3 rooms in a row. I like the other trials better they take like 10 mins to do and you always make about 60+ ex a run.
The merchant is so clutch for this. I would have never gotten my warriors 4th ascendency without the 40% speed boost.
Another tip, never take the affliction that "might" take you to a different room, 9 out of 10 times it will take you to the worst affliction room and it's gonna be bad
I had one run where I got railroaded into that one and then it forced me into -40% damage done and immediately followed by +50% enemy life. The "no energy shield" one it forced on me a bit later was the icing on that shit cake I got forcefed 😶
its not very ethical but if you get this affliction and the wrong room opens, you can leave the trial and rejoin and select the room again, also might get patched as it was on a popular yt channel lol
@@TheOnyxSpy lol, happened to me 3 rooms before the 4th boss, ended running out of honor after like 10 minutes because my build is not super strong, so that's why I wrote the comment
Also, ALWAYS take "hide room types" and NEVER take "hide room rewards."
@@TheOnyxSpy u cannot possibly get railroaded into anything with see extra room relic lol. only need to see 1 extra
I haven't done the third and 4th ascension points yet because for a while I kept rerolling when I got to maps to try out different classes/builds. But I like trial of Sekhema way more than Chaos trial. Thanks some of the tips in this were things I didn't know and I am finally going for my third group of ascension points soon. This will be helpful. As far as first two ascension runs for new players my biggest and best tip is just go in over leveled by 8-10 levels and you will breeze through. Those first 4 points aren't THAT huge of a buff that you require them to progress. Overleveling the trials takes the stress off while learning them.
Omg I didn’t know you had to put the relics in the altar! I feel like a complete fool. I’ve gotten halfway to the third boss with no relics on a warrior. I bet I’ll get it this time.
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WE all learn! Do not worry❤
Im sorry this happened to you but that’s hilarious. Only because I had so much trouble even with the relics 😂😂 ggs
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Huh, that's a good thing to pass to the developers as feedback. Adding a tutorial section to slot in your first relic so that this mechanic can't be overlooked.
As a new player your videos have been absolutely amazing, tyvm sir
if you got two +3 merchant relics its almost 100% you will find 50% price reduction by the end of second floor. From there you can buy whole house each time.
This, very much this. Lowering merchant prices is so important bc it scales very quickly into you just clearing the whole sale, regardless of the options. Increasing the choice count ups the chance for you to find that boon early, and it trivializes your run very quickly.
Another tip I have is to only take 2 three slot length relics with 31-35% honour resistance, getting you to ~65%. Most of the time you're gonna get the 30% increased effect of relics boon, pushing your resistance to 75% easily, and saving one suffix worth of honour resistance is a lot in a scenario where you only have 6-7 of them. Technically, you can take it one step further and sit on 75/1.3≈57% Resistance (requiring only one three slot and one two slot relic), but you'll be on a higher risk of dying before you get said boon, or you might even get lower resistance bc of the affliction which lowers the effects of your relics. My build can perform even on that lvl, but you might need to test the waters first before relying on it.
@@midknightcrisis8612 you can get 36-40 resist per 3x1 relic
Thank you! The honor resistances was the key for me on the third ascension. Appreciate it!
if you struggle to beat it for the first time get a level 75 Djinn Barya, I think they drop at maps with tier 11 waystones, or buy one from trade the first floor will be level 75 monsters. I think level 75 is the lowest that gives 4 floors. correct me if I am wrong.
You are correct, i had barya lvls 70-75 and 75 is the first to give ascendnacy points after killing the 3 floor version
I run them for fun but they have not good loot compaired to chaos trails, time compaired. The chests are awfull if you even get keys
@@LOjha876w6HUiBajhajsjxh get the right relics. Get 75% honor resist, 100% Max honor, 50% extra keys found, 3 merchant choices, 10% reduction in merch cost, and 100% increased defenses. You will blow through them and I get at least 5 divines a day selling runs.
Actually the first most important boon is the reduce merchant cost by 50%. Take that and you can have twice as many boons.
Underrated channel - really appreciate how informative your uploads are. Give this man a sub!
Quick and Effective Content. Keep it up
An item to make the trial even harder.... Man of all the things I wasn't hoping to find
Good video as a new player this helped me a lot. I feel like I could trust you with my cats if I went away on vacation.
This video is the first time I’ve ever heard someone say “very fun” and “trial of sukmyass” in the same sentence 😂😂
Awesome video though, man. Been watching since the game released and your content has been very informative. Thanks!
They are fun once you know how to do them lol
I can get through them without issue but still don't enjoy them. I'm not sure any amount of rewards will bring me back after getting my asc points as I already have to do them for each character...not to mention every upcoming league.
Trial of sekhamas was the place i went to farm early endgame. Made alot of currency from these trials
It'd be nice if GGG actually fixed this trial on PS5. It's been 2 months, and on PS5, if you fail the trial by losing all of your honour, it locks the game. The only way to restart is by closing the game down entirely and reloading because GGG forgot to put a restart button prompt on the failure screen.
As somebody who is new to POE, this trial took me a few goes to complete, and having to restart my game every time I failed was a huge pain in the arse!
Happens on Xbox also.
It does it on PC also if you're using a controller.
Another fantastic video, thank you sir!
After getting to 75% resists, I go for increased damage to bosses, both on relics and boons. No need for speed on 4th boss if you kill him before you get to that phase.
Just recently got the 4th ascension, was so stoked! Your tip regarding merchant + options on relics - def gunna try this for time-lost farming really good suggestion, I’ve totally overlooked it on relics but will hafta check the locker to see if I even have a tapestry with that mod.
Also too: and this might be annoying for some and slows things down. But after competing a room (and depending on the room) I tend to go back to farm lingering mobs and breaking pots/opening chests for rolls on sacred water drops. This isn’t always game changing and there is the danger of potentially getting hit, but getting the extra bits of water can mean having _just enough_ for an extra merchant boon, although I would avoid doing this on floor 4.
One other thing worth mentioning is that you don't have to do the trial all at once, no? And that you can bring up the room map tree at any time with the hotkey for league mechanics.
I think they need to do a bit more work on it, balance-wise. Like l don't think "minor" means what the designer thinks it does ;) No way is losing your primary defensive stat a minor thing (unless it is armor, hehe). They need to add some "major" boons/afflictions, recategorize what goes where, and probably have it be somewhat smart (losing armour for an ES build is minor/not-an-affliction-at-all). I think melee (the real kind, not quarterstaff) still needs some work in the honour department. The "change the deal" option also needs work. It's typically garbage. Yes, you can get rid of a bad affliction, but if you don't have that, well, are you going to risk bricking your run on it giving you a random affliction? So it becomes a blank node, then which is still better than a guaranteed affliction. But what it says, about changing the parameters, and what it does, swapping one bit of RNG for another, aren't the same. And it should have some changing parameter options mixed in, that aren't related to the generally available boons/afflictions. Also, I think guantlets suck. Maybe some people like them, but I'd be willing to bet they're the exception.
Ascendancy-wise, you should only have to run 1 trial to unlock yours and get 2 points. For the rest, you should get one point per act completed. The current system of tying it to the trials doesn't result in the "accomplishment" that the devs seem to think, but instead, frustrates far too many players and results in mass carrying services. It's a bad idea requiring those high level trials to get the points, and it needs to be dumpstered.
Great Video for Starting Trials. You should look deeper through the Relics an Relics Quantity to really max out an run.
Here is some ideas to max out ;)
Relics drop Quantity for Double Drop of Zakoh (If you go over 100 Quantity with Relics got Seal or Urn )
Relics which reduced Merchant and adds choices (imo most important for smoove runs i add 2 Amphora lef and right side with " 2 Choices added / 7-10% Reduced Market Price)
Relics for Honour Resis/Max Honour is key to survive but once you know the mechanics you dont need as much as you think imo
good vid. for my runs, the only important boons are hares foot and ornate dagger. these are the only two i need to feel comfortable to complete the run
Finally finished it tonight. Been trying for days. Monsters take 20% more damage is good, so is honour restored on room completion, there's a lot of rooms. Hares foot is good because then you can take the 15% reduction and it won't hurt your speed. Same with see rooms ahead.
One relic stat that helps even more than honor resistance is the ability to see one extra room ahead. So much easier to plan your route
Close to level 80 on my Infernalist Necro and I've given up on running the trials, even to finish the Ascendancy. It would only give me ~32 extra spirit anyways.
My 4th ascension run was the worst but somehow I managed with lots of luck... I had golden smoke and red smoke so all I was able to see was just the afflictions I could get from each room so I was avoiding all purple rooms. :D I got super lucky and had a rabbit foot and 50% damage bonus and blasted through the last floor.
I tried the 4th ascension trial for the first time earlier today. Had >75% honor resist, 14k max. First 3 floors were a walk in the park... The only problem with the run being the traps/trap rooms coming up more than average...
I fall in the category of people who thinks they don't belong in an ARPG. The net result was that i lost, maybe, ~1k honor over the three floors as I would slide in to the various traps, trying to navigate from tiny safe spot to tiny safe spot (Hint: I have since tried WASD movement for the first time... Its a radically different and better game. I'd argue the difference is on par with controller vs M&K in Counter Strike. I suspect the entire game, has been balanced around WASD, and I strongly urge anyone who's not tried it yet, do so!)
Anywho... so I start floor 4 with 12k honor in the bank with no afflictions to worry about... Easy peasy, surely...? Well... the First enemy in the first room of the 4th floor nuked all that honor and ended my run in only two hits and within seconds...Barely had time to register the fact the first chunked me down from 12k to 8k honor, before the next one sent me packing....
Not a scooby-do.... Not sure if a bug (and/or lag. And/or unloaded or culled enemy or trap).... bad difficulty scaling (though, I don't see it being this given the rest of the game is well balanced).... or misunderstanding on my part in terms of the mechanics... (I mean this is entirely possible as I don't listen /read any NPCs dialog...)
Great video! I think this trial is a great mechanic. I have the 4th ascension yet to do, and was wondering about the relic priorities. You confirm that after honour resistance (which you absolutely need to cap at 75% starting at 3 floor runs) the priority should be merchants. I knew about the tip that you can skip the pledge affliction if none of the options are benficial, but I didn't know the subtlety between "on entry' and with reward! This is huge!
Anyway, this is why I love Path of Exile! The game is there to be broken 😄 It's a puzzle, I love it so much. My goal for tomorrow is to do my 4th ascension. May be I'll rip, but I have to do it now 😀
Relic priority is generally personal preference, but mine is a healthy balance of Honor Resist, Max Honor, Increased Defense (these 3 for survivability), Bosses take increased damage, hits against you have reduced crit chance (these are optional but very handy), See (1-3) rooms extra, Extra trader choices, Reduced trader price (these are also very helpful but usually are stuck on the super big 1x4 relics). Hope this generally swayed you in a helpful direction, I know it's still a lot of choices
You can just join me as i run them for fun and people get there ascendary for free
A couple of other random tips:
* For builds that use Energy Shield, the Lustrous Lacquer boon is very powerful. It increases your ES by 50% which also translates into increased honor.
* Rooms with Blessing of the Wind are some of the best in the trial. The blessing removes a random affliction and gives you a random boon.
I was on a great run about half way through floor 2 and then I decided to take the merchant with a random affliction...bad idea😢 I got the affliction "you have 0 energy shield" I'm all energy shield so it ruined my run, my honour went to the hundreds. Just horrible so be careful ppl!🎉
as far as the party loot goes you can change it in the group window, free for all / short / permanent allocation. Also the pledge that gives you 3 minor boons and Death toll is a huge win if you have honour resistance and a plus as a armour stacker. it will deal 900 damage reduced by honour resistance and armour on the charachter
The one time armour is good lol
Stacking: Max health (honor scales on health), max honor, and honor resistance (as close to max) is the way to go. Even increased defenses help allot.
bro had no idea about any of this. ive legit gota stash tab with nothing but sekhma trials in it Lol defs gonna go give them a go now!
The run is not over if you fail on last boss on collection phase, just log out fast and retry
best Poe2 channel for sure
I have so many of the drops to enter sekhema, no one buys them whereas I sell the other trial key in batches regularly. Definitely would be nice to turn them into some value. Thanks for the tips.
Sell carries
You want slow reduction/+movement speed also for the speed node minigame on Zaroch. For that, you also want to get the furthest node first because you walk slower and slower as your time is running out.
Maybe ive missed you saying it, but getting to 92% increased quantity of relics dropps by monsters will guarantee a 2nd unique relic dropping in the end.
Where'd you get 92 from?
@ iirc a captainlance stream back when he was farming it
I recently went back to them and done a few runs. I'm lvl 93 with really good gear so the trials are trivial but I found the rewards to be really hit or miss. Where as the chaos trials always give you soul cores and fates worth something, these ones often times don't give you anything of value, there is a chance you win big with some of the unique but I'm yet to see an item worth anything more than couple ex
I couldve smashed through for my third ascendency points but the damn game keeps lagging and the traps is what got me. The enemies dont even touch me because they explode in groups with my deadeye herald of thunder/ice. Its the damn connection and the traps working together
My advice as someone who grinds trails:
You have to make a build that can kill Zarokh under a minute, before he starts his fase 2. (Single target build)
Without needing any boon.
The final boss really is the only hard thing in the trails so when you can beat him easy and fast you just have to play the rest smart.
There's a lot of corners in hour glass where if you stand there no one chases you, one mob wil spawn close to you just far enough to reach it without moving.
Those are free rooms I call them, just look for a corner and you'll see.
My relics have 77% resistances, 70% max honour, 200 honour after killing a boss and 90% to boss damage.
Target rooms with water fountains and avoid inflictions.
Oooor you could have reasonably high block or evasion and just basically manfight Zarokh because all those orbs he throws are weak and highly inaccurate.
One tip I found is to prioritize opening the silver mysterious chest among the other silvers as it may contain a gold key.
was really helpful bro...thx..
Thanks for the tips!
One of the best channels covering poe2. Thanks dude
On the party restriction note: in social settings -> party, the party leader can set the (loot) allocation to "free for all" to make every item accessible to everyone except some specific ones like maps (which usually goes to the owner of the instance) and items pre-allocated for all present players (like skill gems) iirc. If you're with friends who don't snatch that divine orb on sight, this option is more comfortable.
Me who just cleared floor 4 as this video pop up in my rec. Thanks youtube.
Where does the friend need to be in the 4th trial boss to also get their Ascension? Can they sit in the room before him until he dies or they need to 'witness' it and sit in the room?
For accendencies it's better to do chaos trials, takes like 15 mins for the whole thing.
Ofc there are the unique items exclusive to trial of suckmyass.
Thanks for tips. Already done it :-) ...but they are good tips!
you already have tempralis? noice! im still after it
@@Eustes no!I will not even think going on trials without single hit!
@Eustes I have more chance to get it by Orb of chance 😂
The affliction trick I had no idea
There is a loot option in the general settings that can be toggled to time restrict loot drops or just have it be free for all. Is it possible that’s what you saw when you partied with others?
great video, but I disagree on boon tierlist. Absolute mvp boons are reduced merchant cost and sacred water gain increase.
I like the way you explain things. No shouting, no unnecessary information. Good job 🤘
Hi bro your content is great i have question some people make exalt just boosting in that area how it works? If you reach final boss you can message to global ?and find who want to boost?
At 8:28, you are wrong about avoiding the affliction on the water fountain, I think you are mistaking it with the venerate shrines which heal you and afflict you with an affliction, that room always gives you the affliction on entry whether or not you use the water fountain.
Seconding this, that shrine has a very easily identifiable symbol (purple sign on fountain) so you won't need to hover over each node to check. Avoid purple borders if you can, purple sign on fountain is fine to path through (as long as you don't drink from the fountain) if there's no better pathway.
i still haven't completed 3rd ascendency, was done with that place. im a casual player only do 2 maps a day after work.
hope they will change it a bit when the game launches.
for instance; you cant get 4 trial keys until you completed 3 trials.
I hate it is not optional. It is basically a roguelike, and I am not playing PoE2 to play a roguelike. If I wanted to, I'd go and play Hades, since that is actually fun and well built.
Making a roguelike in an ARPG is just...
It is 'optional'. The other option currently is the Trial of Chaos which some hate more than the Trial of Suckehmas. Trial of Chaos keeps crashing on me so I really only have one 'choice' atm. GGG will add a third option later too (though it seems worse than the first two at first glance imo)
Good guide, new player here; super boring mode it's a pain ahah
That's what I thought first, but the mechanic is actually solid and fun to break. Once you "break it" it's really not that hard, and becomes fun and rewarding 😊
Can you make a video of your display settings and optimization for the game in the settings
Getting increased max honor is only useful if your evasion isn't high enough. High damage is very important... but silver tongue and increased sacred water are the best boon in the game. assassins dagger is the worst... so if you get the boon that makes your next boon a greater... taht's the one to go for.
Is this lvk 75 version safer than the chaos trial for ascension if i'm smart about afflictions and have the right relics?
I only saved my hc char cuz i had omen of resurgence and killed the 3rd boss but i dipped out after it
Since the partying in the trials was mentioned, and since I've never seen anyone writing about this, I'm going to mention a downside to party play, purely from my experience: when doing a room together, if the party/trial leader takes damage/goes into a trap and loses honour, the others also lose honour.
That's what happened to me when my friend ran the trial and went into gauntlet traps while I was staying in a corner doing nothing. I just watched my honour bar emptying out.
If someone could tell me what could have caused this so it wouldn't happen again, it would be much appreciated.
NOPE! That's not where I got my 3rd or 4th ascendancy. I only ever got my 1st ascendancy on Sekhames across all four of my characters. Then, I did 2nd thru 4th on Trial of Chaos. With CI, Trial of Chaos becomes exponentially easier. And, best of all, NO HONOR SYSTEM BS!!
I am a new player, I was warrior level 87 when I tried , and manager to beat all 4 floors. So, yes, new players can do this! It was so fun that I searched online for reasons to keep doing! It gives a feeling of rogue like on this game, and it is awesome! The point is that players that likes rogue like will love, players that don't like rogue like will not be pleased. It enriches the game!
If you can beat floor 4 consistently you can make some good money just running trials. If you have high dps and can kill the boss easily you can even sell carries
I am also a new player. I was lvl 87 when I was finally able to get my 3rd ascension. I don't know if I'll get a 4th one. Weird because I can do lvl 18 maps just fine.
hey brother, great video as always.
by chance do you have a link to a guide to your build. I have a similar one but it seems I am unable to scale my damage further
Hey, I made an elemental monk build, like 5 or videos back. that's like 90% of my build, big changes since then are adding the "hands of wisdom and action" unique gloves and getting more raw stats scales damage well. also getting good rings with "adds 1-60 lightning damage" give a ton of damage
Great video! Ive already beaten the 4th boss tho so unless im helping someone, no more Trial of Sigmas for me lol. I just dont think its very fun and it takes too long for a "chance" at something decent.
What resist are necessary for final boss? I have to sacrifice some of my resist to increase my DPS. His health pool is massive.
I dislike how vague everything is and the total lack of direction, and getting the Alt info just makes even more confusing, like what power level do the 3 and 4 run bayra's actually drop ?
I like the trials but finding it too hard. Guess my build isn't there yet. Can not get final 2 ascensions. May try again at a later date when build is better.
Are non-unique relics one-time use each time you activate them?
Also, when running with a group, do you share honor? When my partner gets hit, does it hit my honor?
I've group run the trials, not recommended. You each get your own honor bar depending on health and energy shield, but if anyone gets hit it depletes every person in the groups honor bar. So realistically you have to watch out for the lowest persons honor bar.
You can reuse non-unique relics as much as you want
yeah i think if 1 person gets hit, you both get hit, so you'll be held back if someone is super low level. You both have sperate bars with different honour amounts.
And yeah non-uniques can be used forever, once you have good ones, you're set!
Do warriors stand a chance on 4th floor? If so, what build? Thanks.
yes they can do fine on 4th floor
doesnt matter what build you are but you need lots of dps for single target. eith hammer of the gods or perfect strike to nuke down boss.
warrior also has access to reduced slowing potency of debuffs on the passive tree which will help with the final boss. you can also get it on relics as well. its a suffix
Did it got fix? It was bugged to continue to the other ascendancy
thx 4 vid. 👍
I can complete all the rooms and kill all the other bosses in about 5 seconds flat. I can complete much higher level trial of chaos easily, but the damn last boss of trial of sekhemas takes so little damage i will literally run out of mana potions before i beat them.
I had the same issue, switched the mana flask to one with “gain x charges per second.” The flask wasn’t as strong as my other one but it helped sustain the mana amidst the long fight - whilst you are drinking you are perpetually building charges which keeps you topped off. After doing this I downed him pretty smoothly.
can you not just use a lv 30 coin with the unique relic and just cakewalk the thing?
What's with timelost chests?
Are the relics reusable or will they disappear after each run?
normal relics can be used forever, they just stay in your alter. its just the unique ones from beating the final boss that are 1 time use.
I think I might be the only lvl 85 player without their 3rd and 4th ascendancy 🥲
U are the best!
I've been playing on controller and the traps are fine it's those stupid timed rooms when you have to activate the hour glass but it's surrounded by monsters and you cant target it, my god Ggg fix this crap, just make it so you have ti walk close
Remove the skill you have bound to the action button, (X) on PlayStation, and the issue you’re having goes away.
@@Volkl1979can confirm, this worked for me on Xbox.
I never bother with honour res, better to juice the merchant and get all the buffs. 300+ runs completed.
can dream fragments ring drop from the gold chests?
hey i got 80 spirit from chest piece and ring bur it won't show up on the spirit count
I got to the trial of time but the damage to became frustrating. This is mind rotting to farm for because it takes a long time to get to the end stage unlike with trial of chaos which is easier compared to this
I’ll click anything Marty posts about POE
How do you carry your friend without them needing to run with you the entire run? I know you can go out of the trials and back in. Do they need to be in the final boss room when you beat him?
You leave the run (townportal or at the console where you select the next room). You then invite your friend and reopen the run. You then enter at the "console room" where you select where you go next. Your friend waits there while you continue into the next (boss) room. You then kill it and then your friend can move through to the altar getting their ascendancy points.
@Talander we tried it for the 4th and je waited before the portal but that didnt work?
4 floors starts at level 75? I got lower enemy levels on each floor using a lvl 75 compared to my level 80... Now that's not a big sample size so idk if anyone can confirm, but otherwise I'd advice people to try and get a level 75 if they struggle beating it for the first time. I think tier 11 waystones maps will drop the lvl 75 djin.
or maybe it was 76 I dont even know anymore.
Don’t forget you can reforge garbage relics too
Man it sucks so bad, cuz the game is a TON of fun…..
But at the same time it’s COMPLETELY NOT fun at all sometimes :/ there are MULTIPLE instances while playing when I’m just like, WTF was GGG even thinking!??
They OBVIOUSLY don’t play their own games….like every other damn developer
Both chaos and this are terrible too much rng , they are ok if it was not tied to your character Ascending, idk if it's good to test your build as you are inflicted with nerfs
the D' in Djinn is silent
I got all the way through once without losing much honor only to get hit by a fire trap on double speed and kill me almost instantly due to a ball roll dodge which glitched me. Rage quit right away
3 times that the game crashed after i succed the third trials
I swear next time it s happening i quit that game it very frustrating
done the trial a bunch of time and I have never seen a time lost chest once.
avoid affliction trick doesnt work, you get afflicted on starting next room
TIP one should be farm maps until you get about 60 ex then stay up late find some guy selling runs for 60 ex and then you'll never have to go in that place again. It should be called trials of gauntlet because that's the only room you get 70% of the run. I hate those rooms it's not a skill check it's just to waste your time and set you up to fail or fail the next room. So many times I'd make it past all the traps and fire bs just to have a mob jump on me off screen and push me into a trap then I lose 90% honor and have to start a boss fight next room with 20 honor. That's been my luck each time I do them I even have a build that can just nuke the bosses but it's always those trap rooms and I'll get them like 2 or 3 rooms in a row. I like the other trials better they take like 10 mins to do and you always make about 60+ ex a run.
how do you know it is a trap room? i fuking hate these spikes that come up from the floor. i want to avoid it!
Step 1 make or befriend a Ranger with Max evade. Step 2. Ascend u and all ur friends.
Rip for players playing solo self found.
great tips... i enjoyed them until the game crashes