Just here to add some context and common sense. The Ravens had consistency with the holder and the long snapper for most of Tucker’s career in Baltimore. Punter Sam Kock was the holder and he was very consistent. He recently retired. Same with the long snapper Morgan Cox, the team moved on from him in 2021. Kock retired in 2022. This had a big impact on Tucker’s consistency. Tucker has been with the team since 2012 (Super Bowl year). When team broke up the “Wolf pack”, this (slip in FG accuracy) was bound to happen. This is a team sport.
It must be mental, and confidence comes after making a ton of kicks. If you look at Chris Boswell this year, every kick is pure, and it feels automatic. It reminds me of golfers who get in the zone. There is a fine line between a great player and a good player. The club doesn't know who is swinging it, but the greats knock it to 5 feet for the winning birdie, and the journeyman, play safe off to the right and have 30 feet. Same thing with kickers. The ball doesn't know whose foot is kicking it, but at the moment of impact, there must be just a fraction of difference when kickers start to choke. Boswell is in the perfect zone right now. Can't possibly kick the ball any better. Tucker has the yips kinda like Shaq shoots a free throw. The flow isn't natural, and Tucker is hoping for success. It is definitely fascinating and a lot of it is mental, even if at the end, it is all physics.
from someone who played at the top level of their sport… you have no idea what you’re talking about…. You’re just parroting a bunch of media nonsense. Justin Tucker does not have the yips. The yips are when you miss 35 yard kicks by 30 feet. He’s having a technical issue and there are very few people out there capable of diagnosing these things. for my thing there were two people in the eastern part of my country. That’s it. this may be his first time having problems. some guys are pretty stubborn about getting outside help. being in the zone happens but it’s not over a series of games. yes when it does happen, it is impossible to miss but the best of the best just execute at a very high level. so if a golfer has 260 shots in a weekend, he may only execute poorly 10-12 times. he also never has huge numbers. The journeyman executes 90 out of 100 times and the best executes 95 out of 100. The margin is small and huge at the same time. The journeyman won’t play it safe either, they will just miss. Yes one will be 5 feet and the other 30 but it’s execution not mental.
As an Eagles follower, Jake Elliot has also been off this season and he had been very consistent. It feels like the expectations of kickers in the league have changed. I don't remember it being so commonplace to expect long kicks back then as it's feels like today. Which probably allowed older kickers to remain in the league. The first think I expect to go is your strength. It sure feels like the expectations have shifted to expect every 55+ yard FG to just be made. And I think the data sort of supports that. I read this nugget a while back; "In 2023, the number of 60-yard field goals was the same as the total number of 60-yard field goals in the entire 20th century". When media, fans, and the league start to view 60 yard FGs as "common" it shifts the entire dynamics of the position.
With Elliot I'm actually wondering if them not having him do kickoffs is keeping him too cold. Braden Mann is doing the kickoffs with the new rules. That said a lot of kickers are having issues this season. Elliot, McPherson, Tucker, to name a few.
#1. The Ravens should *stop* [blindly] *relying* on Tucker (their GOAT kicker) #2. The Ravens should *advance* a *Tush-Push Strategy* ¹ #3. The Ravens should *develop* a Top-5 *2-Point Conversion Attack* #4. The Ravens should *resurrect* their top-notch *4th-Down Playbook* (≈ a là 2019) ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ¹ Derrick Henry should get prepped for heavy tush-push action. Ditto for Andrews/Kolar/Likely/Ricard .
There is documented, video evidence that the holds are at least playing a large part in it. Stout (who I like as a punter), is not getting the ball down where he needs to.
You don't do a damn thing with Tucker. He still has plenty of leg to make kicks out to 60 yards. He's been in a bit of a slump, but it's not like he's a disaster. He's 16 for 22 on FGs and has missed one XP. I'd give him through at least next training camp to get close to his old form.
He’d have to be like this next season and then I’d bring in competition. The Steelers game was rough but as a Ravens fan the rope for a legend like Tucker is going to be longer.
People have to understand.. when you get older.. you loose some kicking strength .. hes not the tucker from 10-15 years ago.. that's just life but he'll come around
Seriously? The NFL average success rate this season on kicks over 50 yards is something like 74%, which is ridiculously good. Coaches don't bat at eye at attempting 55 yard FGs even though it gives the opponent the ball on the 45 yard line if they miss. Kickers are better than ever.
@@Don-md6wn how anout field goals from 40-49 yrds? lowest its been in the past 5 seasons... how about field goals to win games? lowest its been in 5 years. See what happens when you look at the whole picture, not just one aspect.
Love Tucker but he has problems with kicking but either way he’s got to get it together or Next year he’s probably got to go. I have mad respect for him but it’s a business and it is what it is…..
Tuck is fine leave Him alone... He'll figure it out. Once He realizes He's may have lost a yard or two in distance and settles down He'll be fine. STOUT tighten up bro and Tuck is good to go.
Tuck can figure it out in the offseason (ditto for Stout). Right now, though... ...the Ravens need to fully implement a Plan-B (Tush-Push, 4th Down, 2-Point Advances).
These teams depend more on their kickers than they do their QBs. The Ravens should leave Tucker alone and get him in a position where he can make easy FGs.
I don't get why everybody's over reading the slump he is going through the Steelers kicker Chris Boswell back in 2018 was a liability for the Steelers but the next season he was able to bounce back sometimes players go through slumps didn't Amari Cooper have dropped issues before in his careerfor his last year on the Raiders and then one year in Dallas too to act like these players don't go through slumps is ridiculous
Boswell was hurt and still in the midst of his prime, Tucker is at the end of his career and his accuracy is shaky now from bombing 65+ yard kicks it shreds the leg
@ bro Steven Cackowski went the same same issue. People thought he was washed and he came back the next year and perform the same thing with Adam Vennari so just because a dude has one down here in his career now he is washed. That's absolutely crazy; bro, matt prater had a down season was cut by the Broncos went to the Cardinals and was still elite so let's relax
@ the problem is none of those guys kicked as hard as Tucker length wise besides Prater and that doesn’t count bc it was in Denver, routinely kicking those kicks has shredded his leg and zapped his accuracy
@@JamesB-mi9uu Tucker is only 34 years old, and it's not uncommon for kickers to perform at high level until age 40 or so. If Tucker's leg was "shredded", he wouldn't still be able to kick 60 yard FGs. He's not missing FGs short, his mechanics are off and he's missing them wide.
@@Don-md6wn those kickers weren’t kicking 65 plus yards tho this is a new phenomenon and I believe kickers can’t play that long anymore, I had a cousin who kicked up until pro tryouts and he said anything over 58 makes you have excruciating knee pains that you have to ice
@@cjokerp He is not more accurate. Tucker’s all time percentage is 89.3% and Boswell’s is 88.1%. That’s on 165 fewer attempts for Boswell, too. Boswell is 2 years younger, but doesn’t have 1/5th the resume Tucker does
@wc6046 ... Tucker will be one of the all-time great for sure. But Boswell is currently a better kicker, and when he retires, he will statically be the best to ever do it. He's trending towards GOAT status. Does that mean Boswell will be a HOF? I don't know, but I do know that by the end of this '24 season, he'll be the best kicker in the entire NFL (and he'll probably kick another 7 yrs, at least)... Btw, you're literally splitting hairs with 88 & 89%
If you've watched the NFL the past few weeks, you've seen a lot of missed kicks. Maybe teams are assuming too much from their kickers and asking too much from them. Make some damn touchdowns for goodness sake.
What should the Ravens do with Lamar Jackson who can beat bad defenses all day long and lose to good defenses like KC and Pittsburgh? No one asks this question. As a Steeler fan I recall "Slash" throwing multiple INTs in playoff games vs NE and Denver in the 90s. Ground gets real hard, like cement, and running quarterbacks hate getting tackled in January.
I guess every NFC team has a bad defense since Lamar is something like 22-1 against them for his career. Lamar is a better QB than any QB in Steelers history.
@kened8136 I got an idea. Why don't they release Lamar and sign your dumb @$$? Apparently it's Lamar's fault receivers are dropping passes, the offensive line is undisciplined, secondary can't get stops and a kicker that is washed up. Have EDC call your agent.
No one asks that question cuz its a dumb question. Go and look up Lamar's stats against teams.500 & above. since 2023 w/ his new OC. He's 1st in most, if not all, metrics. I'll never understand why so many people hate the guy when he wins 75% of his games, is humble & loves his guys & has improved every yr & gotten his team further into the playoffs every yr in his career. Is it personal? Did he hurt you in some way? (Serious question)
Ha! That's funny. ► Question: Have any of these so-called sane people seen the Browns' kicker? That guy's enriching himself, and - by the looks of things - he's enriching his gambling buddies, too.
that ain't true dude because Chris boss back in 2018 went through the same shit he struggled as a kicker for a season and then was able to bounce back. We act like people can't have a slump man's been nearly perfect since 2012.
Just here to add some context and common sense. The Ravens had consistency with the holder and the long snapper for most of Tucker’s career in Baltimore. Punter Sam Kock was the holder and he was very consistent. He recently retired. Same with the long snapper Morgan Cox, the team moved on from him in 2021. Kock retired in 2022. This had a big impact on Tucker’s consistency. Tucker has been with the team since 2012 (Super Bowl year). When team broke up the “Wolf pack”, this (slip in FG accuracy) was bound to happen. This is a team sport.
I remember when Morten Anderson was one of my favorite Saint Player.
It must be mental, and confidence comes after making a ton of kicks. If you look at Chris Boswell this year, every kick is pure, and it feels automatic. It reminds me of golfers who get in the zone. There is a fine line between a great player and a good player. The club doesn't know who is swinging it, but the greats knock it to 5 feet for the winning birdie, and the journeyman, play safe off to the right and have 30 feet. Same thing with kickers. The ball doesn't know whose foot is kicking it, but at the moment of impact, there must be just a fraction of difference when kickers start to choke. Boswell is in the perfect zone right now. Can't possibly kick the ball any better. Tucker has the yips kinda like Shaq shoots a free throw. The flow isn't natural, and Tucker is hoping for success. It is definitely fascinating and a lot of it is mental, even if at the end, it is all physics.
from someone who played at the top level of their sport… you have no idea what you’re talking about…. You’re just parroting a bunch of media nonsense. Justin Tucker does not have the yips. The yips are when you miss 35 yard kicks by 30 feet. He’s having a technical issue and there are very few people out there capable of diagnosing these things. for my thing there were two people in the eastern part of my country. That’s it. this may be his first time having problems. some guys are pretty stubborn about getting outside help. being in the zone happens but it’s not over a series of games. yes when it does happen, it is impossible to miss but the best of the best just execute at a very high level. so if a golfer has 260 shots in a weekend, he may only execute poorly 10-12 times. he also never has huge numbers. The journeyman executes 90 out of 100 times and the best executes 95 out of 100. The margin is small and huge at the same time. The journeyman won’t play it safe either, they will just miss. Yes one will be 5 feet and the other 30 but it’s execution not mental.
As an Eagles follower, Jake Elliot has also been off this season and he had been very consistent.
It feels like the expectations of kickers in the league have changed. I don't remember it being so commonplace to expect long kicks back then as it's feels like today. Which probably allowed older kickers to remain in the league. The first think I expect to go is your strength. It sure feels like the expectations have shifted to expect every 55+ yard FG to just be made. And I think the data sort of supports that. I read this nugget a while back; "In 2023, the number of 60-yard field goals was the same as the total number of 60-yard field goals in the entire 20th century". When media, fans, and the league start to view 60 yard FGs as "common" it shifts the entire dynamics of the position.
With Elliot I'm actually wondering if them not having him do kickoffs is keeping him too cold. Braden Mann is doing the kickoffs with the new rules.
That said a lot of kickers are having issues this season. Elliot, McPherson, Tucker, to name a few.
Respectfully Elliot is nowhere near Tucker. Tucker is just a shocker
#1. The Ravens should *stop* [blindly] *relying* on Tucker (their GOAT kicker)
#2. The Ravens should *advance* a *Tush-Push Strategy* ¹
#3. The Ravens should *develop* a Top-5 *2-Point Conversion Attack*
#4. The Ravens should *resurrect* their top-notch *4th-Down Playbook* (≈ a là 2019)
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
¹ Derrick Henry should get prepped for heavy tush-push action. Ditto for Andrews/Kolar/Likely/Ricard .
There is documented, video evidence that the holds are at least playing a large part in it. Stout (who I like as a punter), is not getting the ball down where he needs to.
Kicking is 10% physical, 90% mental. Once you start doubting yourself is when you start missing.
You don't do a damn thing with Tucker. He still has plenty of leg to make kicks out to 60 yards. He's been in a bit of a slump, but it's not like he's a disaster. He's 16 for 22 on FGs and has missed one XP. I'd give him through at least next training camp to get close to his old form.
He’d have to be like this next season and then I’d bring in competition. The Steelers game was rough but as a Ravens fan the rope for a legend like Tucker is going to be longer.
He needs something to get his act together because the Ravens would be undefeated or would have just 1 loss if he makes his FGs!
This window to the superbowl may not be there next year....needs to be fixed now.
Sleep the ravens need to win now if he can’t get the job done someone will
Nah fuck that! Justin Tucker been this way since last year… he is not doing well and losing us games.
Do kickers go through slumps? Or is it more that they fall off a cliff performance-wise, like Peyton Manning did in his last 1.5 seasons?
It's not physical deterioration, kicking is 90% mental. Once you miss a couple it usually snowballs.
Manning physicality degraded. It’s like he knew what needed to get done but couldn’t do it.
People have to understand.. when you get older.. you loose some kicking strength .. hes not the tucker from 10-15 years ago.. that's just life but he'll come around
Kickers have been horrendous this season
Boswell hasn’t.
Seriously? The NFL average success rate this season on kicks over 50 yards is something like 74%, which is ridiculously good. Coaches don't bat at eye at attempting 55 yard FGs even though it gives the opponent the ball on the 45 yard line if they miss. Kickers are better than ever.
@@Don-md6wn how anout field goals from 40-49 yrds? lowest its been in the past 5 seasons... how about field goals to win games? lowest its been in 5 years. See what happens when you look at the whole picture, not just one aspect.
@@Lloyd00 Statistical flukes from year to year.
@@Don-md6wn which is what your stat sounds like.. I have multiple stats that prove my point. You have 1 that sounds like a fluke
He owes somebody money.
How
"I Keek A Touchdown"---Garo
Love Tucker but he has problems with kicking but either way he’s got to get it together or Next year he’s probably got to go. I have mad respect for him but it’s a business and it is what it is…..
Tuck is fine leave Him alone... He'll figure it out. Once He realizes He's may have lost a yard or two in distance and settles down He'll be fine. STOUT tighten up bro and Tuck is good to go.
Tuck can figure it out in the offseason (ditto for Stout). Right now, though...
...the Ravens need to fully implement a Plan-B (Tush-Push, 4th Down, 2-Point Advances).
Isaac punts has released videos blaming the holder. 😂😂😂😂
These teams depend more on their kickers than they do their QBs.
The Ravens should leave Tucker alone and get him in a position where he can make easy FGs.
Lmfao 50 and 47 yards are nfl easy you sound dumb
I don't get why everybody's over reading the slump he is going through the Steelers kicker Chris Boswell back in 2018 was a liability for the Steelers but the next season he was able to bounce back sometimes players go through slumps didn't Amari Cooper have dropped issues before in his careerfor his last year on the Raiders and then one year in Dallas too to act like these players don't go through slumps is ridiculous
Boswell was hurt and still in the midst of his prime, Tucker is at the end of his career and his accuracy is shaky now from bombing 65+ yard kicks it shreds the leg
@ bro Steven Cackowski went the same same issue. People thought he was washed and he came back the next year and perform the same thing with Adam Vennari so just because a dude has one down here in his career now he is washed. That's absolutely crazy; bro, matt prater had a down season was cut by the Broncos went to the Cardinals and was still elite so let's relax
@ the problem is none of those guys kicked as hard as Tucker length wise besides Prater and that doesn’t count bc it was in Denver, routinely kicking those kicks has shredded his leg and zapped his accuracy
@@JamesB-mi9uu Tucker is only 34 years old, and it's not uncommon for kickers to perform at high level until age 40 or so. If Tucker's leg was "shredded", he wouldn't still be able to kick 60 yard FGs. He's not missing FGs short, his mechanics are off and he's missing them wide.
@@Don-md6wn those kickers weren’t kicking 65 plus yards tho this is a new phenomenon and I believe kickers can’t play that long anymore, I had a cousin who kicked up until pro tryouts and he said anything over 58 makes you have excruciating knee pains that you have to ice
Tucker is no Chris Boswell
Sure, 2024 tucker is no Boswell. That’s about it
Boswell is 33 and has been to 1 pro bowl. That's the end of his resume lol
@wc6046 ... 2 years younger and statically more accurate. Now we can end it
@@cjokerp He is not more accurate. Tucker’s all time percentage is 89.3% and Boswell’s is 88.1%. That’s on 165 fewer attempts for Boswell, too. Boswell is 2 years younger, but doesn’t have 1/5th the resume Tucker does
@wc6046 ... Tucker will be one of the all-time great for sure. But Boswell is currently a better kicker, and when he retires, he will statically be the best to ever do it. He's trending towards GOAT status. Does that mean Boswell will be a HOF? I don't know, but I do know that by the end of this '24 season, he'll be the best kicker in the entire NFL (and he'll probably kick another 7 yrs, at least)...
Btw, you're literally splitting hairs with 88 & 89%
KEEP HIM!! (I'm a Steelers fan!)
Jeez bro😂
Well the Steelers will be one and done in the playoffs, don’t get your hopes up to high
If you've watched the NFL the past few weeks, you've seen a lot of missed kicks. Maybe teams are assuming too much from their kickers and asking too much from them. Make some damn touchdowns for goodness sake.
Asking for too much? They have one job!
@slaveofTMH asking too much in terms of distance. They only have one job, so then they should be able to kick seventy yard plus FG's?
I mean....that is their job...only one I might add.
@@bennettoberfeld614 Running backs are being asked to run and catch the ball. Multiple positions are asked to do more. The kicker got one job.
@slaveofTMH for the third time, you've missed my point.
What should the Ravens do with Lamar Jackson who can beat bad defenses all day long and lose to good defenses like KC and Pittsburgh? No one asks this question. As a Steeler fan I recall "Slash" throwing multiple INTs in playoff games vs NE and Denver in the 90s. Ground gets real hard, like cement, and running quarterbacks hate getting tackled in January.
Happy for you guys, you may go better than 9-8 this year. Helluva season
I guess every NFC team has a bad defense since Lamar is something like 22-1 against them for his career. Lamar is a better QB than any QB in Steelers history.
@kened8136 I got an idea. Why don't they release Lamar and sign your dumb @$$? Apparently it's Lamar's fault receivers are dropping passes, the offensive line is undisciplined, secondary can't get stops and a kicker that is washed up. Have EDC call your agent.
No one asks that question cuz its a dumb question.
Go and look up Lamar's stats against teams.500 & above. since 2023 w/ his new OC.
He's 1st in most, if not all, metrics.
I'll never understand why so many people hate the guy when he wins 75% of his games, is humble & loves his guys & has improved every yr & gotten his team further into the playoffs every yr in his career.
Is it personal? Did he hurt you in some way? (Serious question)
@@Don-md6wnYou cant be that dumb to say that guy who didnt won Lombardy to be better then guys who won 6 of them 😂 please delete comment
Justin Tucker is point shaving and any sane person knows this.
Ha! That's funny.
► Question: Have any of these so-called sane people seen the Browns' kicker?
That guy's enriching himself, and - by the looks of things - he's enriching his gambling buddies, too.
Kickers and special teams have been god awful throughout the whole league this year
Justin Tucker has been broken ever since Kelce and Mahomes bullied him in the playoffs last season
It actually started before that. But that definitely fucked with him. He tried to get cocky and backfired. Now he is missing routine kicks.
The Taylor swift effect
that ain't true dude because Chris boss back in 2018 went through the same shit he struggled as a kicker for a season and then was able to bounce back. We act like people can't have a slump man's been nearly perfect since 2012.
Release he's old