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I have helped replace 3 well pumps over the past few years at work. All over 200' 2" galvanised pipe. We use a front end loader, heavy steel cable and a couple pipe vices to keep the pipe in place while moving the cable. It is slow but way cheaper than having a company come out.
Thanks for another grate video . If you have not installed you offset lines to the house yet . Do yourself a favor and put 4 wire to the well . That way if things get shut down ( SHF) and you can only get a three wire pump , you will have the wire in the ground all ready . I use three wire pumps because you have a control box in the basement and that has your start capacitor in it . With a two wire pump , that is build into the motor , so if it get hit by lightning or just fails , you need to pull the pump and replace the motor . Tree wire pumps most of my service calls you can just change the box in the basement . Also install the cycle stop valve you talked about in the video . That way you do not need a big tank . You really don't get any grate storage from BIGER tanks , and you save a lot of cash . Myself I would use a cycle stop , 35 gal tank with 38 psi in blather , heavy release vale and turn PSI up to turn on at 40 PSI and shut off at 75 or 80 PSI . It's better for the pump to run higher PSi because it holds good PSI on the bearing witch is better for your pump . Hope that helps and not mad for my thoughts . Thanks again
Let me ask a question: Is 75psi too high for residential piping? Is a constant pressure pump better? Would u install a 'manual' pump also as back up? Are there filters that can be put on pump to prevent debris pick up from well to pump? Thanks
This isn't a criticism, I'm just now preparing to have a well drilled myself so I'm trying to get educated. I noticed that there wasn't a place on the well pump for a safety rope (way to retrieve the pump) do you feel that it isn't necessary if you use scheduled 80 PVC ? and why no pitless adapter?
Just had a well drilled at a neighbour's house, it has enough head to reach 20 foot above ground level. He still used a pump, because he wanted more flow. The pump doubled the free flow.
be sure to add a cable or a poly rope to pump as to take some pressure off your pipe. it also saves the pump if pipe breaks in well. steel or stainless steel will get ate up if you have sulfur or hard water, use a poly rope at that point. take care thanks
so how deep was the well and at what dept have you installed the pump? also in what state are you installing this pump?? I see you haven't used pitless adaptor .. I just had my well drilled at 305 ft with 50GPM and shopping around for a good pump to install myself.. be blessed.
Useful video E775 Tell me, what was the cost of having the well drilled + any surveys carried out prior to operation? Do you need a permit to drill in US ?
ok, i think I want one of these style caps. can you help me get and or install this? I'll show the video to the well driller repair man, but I doubt he'll want to follow some other guy's method after doing his way for 40 years. I am near benton harbor, Michigan.
The rig looks like a 5t smeal pump hoist. They are quite popular and I'm guessing there are thousands out there now. The company is now called Hunke Manufacturing.
Up here in Canada we run Well temps about 42 - 44. I would of never imagined using a schedule grade glue pipe to suspend a pump, I would think it would come apart or bust.
I need help to convert my well that i pay to fill to a well that pulls from the ground. Any plumbers in the Dunville area that can help me out and the cost, please. Thanks Pamela
Does anyone know how to make a well cover like the one he has? Or the name of it? I have no idea how to start creating that. I also need 3 separate holes for wires, water pipe, and air valve, kind of like what he has. Thanks!
Hey 777. I have a 4 inch casing and a 2inch discharge on my 5hp pump with metal pipe . Do you think the simple pump will even fit inside the 4inch? The wires plus the 2 inch coupler on the pipe being the tightest spot that it has to slip by. Also how difficult is it to pump from your static level?
I am planning on having a similar (solar) pump installed, but my water would be stored in a tank, well above the ground and flow down by gravity for use. Would you recommend placing a 3-stage water filter in-line with this pump above ground of course, or would a secondary booster pump be necessary after the storage tank?
I was just thinking, young dudes or dudeetts would be smart to get into the well water biz. and here you are. good for you man, it sounds like your enjoining it.
Countreeman - There wasn’t any teaching going on here! All they did was talk about arresters, back up hand pumps, water flow rates, and water levels! Useless information for replacing an existing pump! I’m a handy sort of guy, but I know little to nothing about well pumps. I can learn most anything about this stuff. If this video was informative, I would know more right now! To get someone to come out with all that equipment would be very expensive, and I don’t have equipment like that! I called the only well guy locally, and he was going to charge me over $2200 to do what this guy did! A lot of help this was! It was a total waste of time!
Please suggest foot valve fall and stuck in the bore well in process of replacement. trying to take it out is not working , please suggest way. since it is not letting us extend water supply pipe.
Did I miss the stand offs to keep the pipe and wire from rubbing the well shaft? If not use and installed correctly on a fairly deep well, you will be replacing the wiring down the road before long.
Engineer775, Thank you for the informative video. I also live in Upstate SC. Do you have any issues with water acidity? The biggest problem with our well water is low pH. I can only use plastic piping or stainless. Galvanized pipes and fittings don't last long and leach metals into the water
I could TRY to do it but I've been looking for someone to do it for me and I've got NOTHING. I already have the well with pipe coming up. Jus need running water. I'm gonna keep watching n learning
I'm in SW Utah and our 200 foot deep well pump has failed after seven years. The company, Gardner Wells, installed it initially and I recommend them to anyone. I wish I knew what I know now when they installed it so I had a better idea of what was going on. However, I have rung out the wiring and the pump is getting power on all three legs but nothing. The pump failed with the press. sw. in the closed pos. But the overload didn't and does not open. I had changed out the control unit with a known good one and no help. Pumps don't last forever and I don't have the money to call Gardner to change it, and even though I know they would work with us, so I'm going to try to do it myself w/help. I watched/helped Gardner with a neighbors pump that had the wires chaffing against the metal casing and shorting intermittently. A gantry/hoist would sure be nice but I'm going to have to rig up something instead. I had "fiberglass" pipe sections used as well as composite casing when installed. Except for the last one of course. This video is a great help. Your "Pump Guy" seemed first rate with patience and experience knowledge. People like him don't get the respect they deserve but they know it. I would have liked to see or hear more clearly about how far from the bottom the pump was set at, how deep it was in the first place (I couldn't hear what was said), a closer view of the thing used to hold the pipe sections while dropping it in and a little more of the well cap that was used to suspend everything. Other than those things it is a good video, produced and explained well.
They do have distance limitations depending on the model. They can also have some interference issues depending on the pipe/casing used in the hole. The only other thing I don't know is if they would need calibrated to go through gas instead of air. I don't know if sound travels the same in both. I would talk to a dealer to find out more if you're interested.
So how do you keep the pump from picking up sediment and dirt? Or does all that clear up after pumping for awhile? Also how far from the bottom of the hole do you set the pump? Thanks!
The problem with backflow through an impeller pump isn't it running back through the pump hammering stuff. It's that if the reverse flow gets the impeller spinning fast enough and it kicks back on there's a stupid amount of force that the impeller will have to absorb as it tries to start spinning the other direction. Depending on how your electrical is set up , there could be a problem with the generated electricity, but I'm not sure on household stuff.
If it does disconnect it's usually still connected to the wire so you have a chance of pulling it up. If not there are fishing tools that allow you to hook on to the pump and retrieve it
+romdos11 Nah the simple pump is a deep well hand pump with a piston cylinder in the water. You drive it with the long handle above ground through a rod that connects in a supply line down in the water. The Braided line that's connected is a bypass, when out of power you could open a faucet in the house and pump water from the simple pump.
yes that's what he is saying. water will weigh considerable when pumped long distances and it can actually break the pipe if sufficient check valves are not installed.
Threaded PVC pipe lengths, male 1 end, female the other... NOT glued connections! The black rubber diamond was a torque arrestor, to absorb any twisting of the pump on each startup. I prefer to use continuous length poly pipe coils though... No junctions to fail.
@@Scentsational The only problem with continuous poly pipe coils is that they are not strong enough to use in a really deep well. My well is 300 feet and I was told the poly pipe was not strong enough.
I am Danny Maturan from Iligan City, Philippines. We had a disagreement with the officers of the water works office of our city in the manner in which the submersible pump was installed. Instead of an UPRIGHT POSITION, it was rather installed in a SLANT POSTION due to Height constraint of the reservoir. The source of the water is from a spring, collected to a tank which serve as the reservoir, where the collected water will be pump up to an elevation of about 300 meters.. I insisted to improve the set-up but they refused. So I decided to seek for more info on the proper istallation procedures to support my belief. Need you immediate reply because the motor driving the pump (20 Horsepower do not last for one year. which I believe this installation/set-up is one of the causes. Thank you for your time!
Danny Maturan The common cause for pump failure is improper tanks and pressure switches. 20 hp is normally used for small farms it's way to big for a common house use. you only need like 5gpm max for a house, along with proper bladder tanks.
it is possible that the position of the motor is not correct. The type of motor may have bearings that are radial loaded and if horizontal or partially tilted, the bearings will prematurely fail. most submersible pumps are ok to tilt or lay on their side but not all.
Love the old man! They dont make guys like this anymore.
Not true.. Its more like, men like him don't want deal with most of you anymore. Reasons galore.
KEEP TEACHING I'M STILL LEARNING GOD BLESS
Thanks for this video. I am in the UK trying to drill my own borehole, and i need such info. very good. many thanks.
Well, pip-pip, cherri-O and all that rot, ya know. lol Ya-all come back here, ya know?
Thank you for making such a high quality and thorough video.
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I have helped replace 3 well pumps over the past few years at work. All over 200' 2" galvanised pipe. We use a front end loader, heavy steel cable and a couple pipe vices to keep the pipe in place while moving the cable. It is slow but way cheaper than having a company come out.
We do it with a front end loader as well. We've got at least 300 m of piping, so it takes an eternity to raise and lower.
Its the rat race of time vs money, whichever cheaper wins.
A very nice install. I enjoyed the process.
Thanks for another grate video . If you have not installed you offset lines to the house yet . Do yourself a favor and put 4 wire to the well . That way if things get shut down ( SHF) and you can only get a three wire pump , you will have the wire in the ground all ready . I use three wire pumps because you have a control box in the basement and that has your start capacitor in it . With a two wire pump , that is build into the motor , so if it get hit by lightning or just fails , you need to pull the pump and replace the motor . Tree wire pumps most of my service calls you can just change the box in the basement . Also install the cycle stop valve you talked about in the video . That way you do not need a big tank . You really don't get any grate storage from BIGER tanks , and you save a lot of cash . Myself I would use a cycle stop , 35 gal tank with 38 psi in blather , heavy release vale and turn PSI up to turn on at 40 PSI and shut off at 75 or 80 PSI . It's better for the pump to run higher PSi because it holds good PSI on the bearing witch is better for your pump . Hope that helps and not mad for my thoughts . Thanks again
Thank You for your input. I think it was better than the video.
Let me ask a question: Is 75psi too high for residential piping? Is a constant pressure pump better? Would u install a 'manual' pump also as back up? Are there filters that can be put on pump to prevent debris pick up from well to pump? Thanks
This isn't a criticism, I'm just now preparing to have a well drilled myself so I'm trying to get educated. I noticed that there wasn't a place on the well pump for a safety rope (way to retrieve the pump) do you feel that it isn't necessary if you use scheduled 80 PVC ? and why no pitless adapter?
Great video! Currently troubleshooting a collapsed well with an ESP. Found video very helpful understanding ESP installation in the first place....
How did it turn up ?
You had to re drill it eh?
Correct! Had to re-drill a new well, unfortunately.
@@ooakiny Thanks for the response eh.. Hope it worked out for you.
nice informative video. just had mine done. they placed a 40 gallon tank next to this well. does your setup require one?
Just had a well drilled at a neighbour's house, it has enough head to reach 20 foot above ground level. He still used a pump, because he wanted more flow. The pump doubled the free flow.
Hope mine does too! Lol
What a cool old-timer!
John Stryker ---He doin it right👍
could you make a list of all the components used, including the size of the pipes ? thanks
Excellent video, Thanks
great video !!!! Your camera man did a great job !!! a lot of people don't know how to take a good video. I really enjoyed watching it !
I'm so glad I found this on youtube.
Keep on teaching, people must do something which they know by learning not by presumption
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thanks a lot, learn a lot with you videos..God Bless
be sure to add a cable or a poly rope to pump as to take some pressure
off your pipe. it also saves the pump if pipe breaks in well. steel or
stainless steel will get ate up if you have sulfur or hard water, use a
poly rope at that point. take care thanks
so how deep was the well and at what dept have you installed the pump? also in what state are you installing this pump?? I see you haven't used pitless adaptor .. I just had my well drilled at 305 ft with 50GPM and shopping around for a good pump to install myself.. be blessed.
Thanks for the video.
We are very dry in Morocco these last three decades: we realy need this knowladge .
Thank you
did you say it is a backup Hand pump as well ??
what size pipe do you use for the hand pump? Looked like 1"-11/4" for the submersible.
Thanks for the education, this has been helpful.
Thank you guys for sharing👍
Out in the deep country we ran rope parallel to the waterline to bear the weight of the pump
Thank you for a video. Does the pump sits are the bottom or it hangs above the bottom? If it hangs, how far away from the bottom it should be?
Depends on how much water the well puts out- you put the pump far enough under the water so it won't suck down
Thank you for the very informative video. I have a water well and I would like to have a submersible pump installed
Kindly share about this specific installation truck. Specs and supplier. Thanks to you. Good work
Useful video E775 Tell me, what was the cost of having the well drilled + any surveys carried out prior to operation?
Do you need a permit to drill in US ?
I will be happy to know as well. Kindly support by subscribing
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Very informative, thank you for sharing.
I like the cool old man he knows whats going on!!!
Can you provide us with the name of the pump or a link where we can find it?
will u share how u drill water well? i want see waterwell machine
Great work please let me know how to installed pump in a boreholes pls help me
Hi, whats the purpose of the black rubber placed on top of the pump, is that stabilizer? Thanks
ok, i think I want one of these style caps. can you help me get and or install this? I'll show the video to the well driller repair man, but I doubt he'll want to follow some other guy's method after doing his way for 40 years. I am near benton harbor, Michigan.
Thank you for helping out .
Great work! Is that a commercially-manufactured vehicle with hoist that you are using, or is it one that you have built/put together yourself?
The rig looks like a 5t smeal pump hoist. They are quite popular and I'm guessing there are thousands out there now. The company is now called Hunke Manufacturing.
Is that electrical tape used to secure the wire to outside of pipe?
Up here in Canada we run Well temps about 42 - 44. I would of never imagined using a schedule grade glue pipe to suspend a pump, I would think it would come apart or bust.
+Ira Hays Those were all threaded pipes. No glue just Teflon pipe dope on the threads.
That was clearly mentioned in the video
We don't use pipes like that, We use poly makes it a lot easier to maintain later down the line
+Daedalus2801 but then are you still able to put in those check valves every however many feet?
We put the check valves on the top of the pump
I need help to convert my well that i pay to fill to a well that pulls from the ground. Any plumbers in the Dunville area that can help me out and the cost, please. Thanks Pamela
Hi - can you drop one of this submersibles down a conventional well (meter diameter , 30 meters) or does it only work in a bore hole?
Congratulation......you are doing the best job....
Does anyone know how to make a well cover like the one he has? Or the name of it? I have no idea how to start creating that. I also need 3 separate holes for wires, water pipe, and air valve, kind of like what he has. Thanks!
Hey 777. I have a 4 inch casing and a 2inch discharge on my 5hp pump with metal pipe . Do you think the simple pump will even fit inside the 4inch? The wires plus the 2 inch coupler on the pipe being the tightest spot that it has to slip by. Also how difficult is it to pump from your static level?
Always have 20% more tube/casing dia than the inserting object.
I am planning on having a similar (solar) pump installed, but my water would be stored in a tank, well above the ground and flow down by gravity for use. Would you recommend placing a 3-stage water filter in-line with this pump above ground of course, or would a secondary booster pump be necessary after the storage tank?
Didnt see you plumb the hand pump. How did you do it?
The first and last thing I noticed was how close the casing is to being on grade. All the ones I've seen out here are at least 18 inches above grade.
how many metres from the well floor should i place the pump
Hi, I like too much your videos!
I wonder if the sumersible pump like the video works in a little lake
What keeps it from freezing?
This is exactly what I do everyday and drilling wells as well down here on the Texas gulf coast. Ok g2g gotta work in the am lol
I was just thinking, young dudes or dudeetts would be smart to get into the well water biz. and here you are. good for you man, it sounds like your enjoining it.
Do u work in ny as well ?
Countreeman - There wasn’t any teaching going on here! All they did was talk about arresters, back up hand pumps, water flow rates, and water levels! Useless information for replacing an existing pump!
I’m a handy sort of guy, but I know little to nothing about well pumps. I can learn most anything about this stuff. If this video was informative, I would know more right now!
To get someone to come out with all that equipment would be very expensive, and I don’t have equipment like that! I called the only well guy locally, and he was going to charge me over $2200 to do what this guy did!
A lot of help this was! It was a total waste of time!
Thanks Eng
SIR ..HOW DO I FIND CORRECT LOCATION POINT OF GROUNDWATER ON SLOPE
Please suggest foot valve fall and stuck in the bore well in process of replacement. trying to take it out is not working , please suggest way. since it is not letting us extend water supply pipe.
Hey man I had a question about where you sourced the pvc pipe?
Nice video.
Have you ever thought about using WellHose DIY Drop Pipe?
Tried it an LOVE it. Thanks for the tip. makes it so much easier than going with steel or pvc. way to go
Why no pitless adaptor?
Did I miss the stand offs to keep the pipe and wire from rubbing the well shaft? If not use and installed correctly on a fairly deep well, you will be replacing the wiring down the road before long.
No one uses those stand offs. Out of the 21 years I've been doing it I've never seen them on an install
The only time I've seen rubbed wire is when someone sets the pump below the casing into the rough lime rock
I'm guessing you don't have to worry about freezing? here in NYS we would have to have a pit below frost line, and a frost free hand pump...
South Carolina tags on the well truck.
Thanks
Great Video, can the pump be used in Africa or it's only for 110v ?
+Abdul Ibrahim Check what your electric requirements are 110/220 and you will be able to get what you need.
Engineer775, Thank you for the informative video. I also live in Upstate SC. Do you have any issues with water acidity? The biggest problem with our well water is low pH. I can only use plastic piping or stainless. Galvanized pipes and fittings don't last long and leach metals into the water
+Ray_Biker I don't have that problem. Just go with the PVC and you should be fine.
Yes pic deep set pipe sch 120 is best and ss nipples to use
Reverse problem here in the southwest with Colorado River water and alkalinity. Same result though, even with copper.
are you guys from sc
what is the size of the well? 4" or 6"
That's 5"
I could TRY to do it but I've been looking for someone to do it for me and I've got NOTHING. I already have the well with pipe coming up. Jus need running water. I'm gonna keep watching n learning
I'm in SW Utah and our 200 foot deep well pump has failed after seven years. The company, Gardner Wells, installed it initially and I recommend them to anyone. I wish I knew what I know now when they installed it so I had a better idea of what was going on. However, I have rung out the wiring and the pump is getting power on all three legs but nothing. The pump failed with the press. sw. in the closed pos. But the overload didn't and does not open. I had changed out the control unit with a known good one and no help. Pumps don't last forever and I don't have the money to call Gardner to change it, and even though I know they would work with us, so I'm going to try to do it myself w/help. I watched/helped Gardner with a neighbors pump that had the wires chaffing against the metal casing and shorting intermittently. A gantry/hoist would sure be nice but I'm going to have to rig up something instead. I had "fiberglass" pipe sections used as well as composite casing when installed. Except for the last one of course. This video is a great help. Your "Pump Guy" seemed first rate with patience and experience knowledge. People like him don't get the respect they deserve but they know it. I would have liked to see or hear more clearly about how far from the bottom the pump was set at, how deep it was in the first place (I couldn't hear what was said), a closer view of the thing used to hold the pipe sections while dropping it in and a little more of the well cap that was used to suspend everything. Other than those things it is a good video, produced and explained well.
7 years is a damn good length of time...
@@AdamSahr-cj4kf not really, should get 20
@@AdamSahr-cj4kf you are advised to remove pump at least every 2 years for inspections and observations.
Does the meter work on oil wells like stripper wells? Just curious
The meter you used in the beginning of the video
They do have distance limitations depending on the model. They can also have some interference issues depending on the pipe/casing used in the hole. The only other thing I don't know is if they would need calibrated to go through gas instead of air. I don't know if sound travels the same in both. I would talk to a dealer to find out more if you're interested.
Ok he said something about a check in line. How many feet do you put one of those in?
Big Will every 200 ft is pretty average
Hi how big was the white pipe matt
So how do you keep the pump from picking up sediment and dirt? Or does all that clear up after pumping for awhile? Also how far from the bottom of the hole do you set the pump? Thanks!
Trey clark ten foot is the normal from bottom in these parts, wells are very shallow he most only 80' hitting water at 20'
cool,thanks
cool!
Great video
how deep is your water level ?
I want to know which cable size you can use when submersible pump is at 200m in depth
The problem with backflow through an impeller pump isn't it running back through the pump hammering stuff. It's that if the reverse flow gets the impeller spinning fast enough and it kicks back on there's a stupid amount of force that the impeller will have to absorb as it tries to start spinning the other direction. Depending on how your electrical is set up , there could be a problem with the generated electricity, but I'm not sure on household stuff.
What is the rubber guide piece? Where can I get one?
that is a torque arrestor
Cool video
Great information.
Thanks
Why not use galvanized pipe?
how do u pull a submersible or put it back down its stuck
Can I get in touch with the pipe installer. I would like to purchase a 2 hp motor or mother and pump.
Question: what if the the pump is accidentally disconnected from the pipe, is there any way to recover it?
If it does disconnect it's usually still connected to the wire so you have a chance of pulling it up. If not there are fishing tools that allow you to hook on to the pump and retrieve it
Where can you get one of the hand pumps for a well already in place?
I don't see any replies by engineer775, but I will try. Where does the simple pump connect? Into the tee through one of those braided hoses?
+romdos11 Nah the simple pump is a deep well hand pump with a piston cylinder in the water.
You drive it with the long handle above ground through a rod that connects in a supply line down in the water.
The Braided line that's connected is a bypass, when out of power you could open a faucet in the house and pump water from the simple pump.
I ujst want double check, what you are saying is to add a check valve every 100 ft?
yes that's what he is saying. water will weigh considerable when pumped long distances and it can actually break the pipe if sufficient check valves are not installed.
Where is the safety rope?
thanks Dost
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Where i could by that black thing that keep pumt still?
very nice if 250 feet and above either submercible or mono block motor is suitable pl send feed back
What exactly was the black expander that he attached to the pvc pipe? Are those pvc material white pipes or something else?
Threaded PVC pipe lengths, male 1 end, female the other... NOT glued connections! The black rubber diamond was a torque arrestor, to absorb any twisting of the pump on each startup. I prefer to use continuous length poly pipe coils though... No junctions to fail.
@@Scentsational The only problem with continuous poly pipe coils is that they are not strong enough to use in a really deep well. My well is 300 feet and I was told the poly pipe was not strong enough.
plumbing I'll work fittings and samarsipul pump.
I am Danny Maturan from Iligan City, Philippines. We had a disagreement with the officers of the water works office of our city in the manner in which the submersible pump was installed. Instead of an UPRIGHT POSITION, it was rather installed in a SLANT POSTION due to Height constraint of the reservoir. The source of the water is from a spring, collected to a tank which serve as the reservoir, where the collected water will be pump up to an elevation of about 300 meters.. I insisted to improve the set-up but they refused. So I decided to seek for more info on the proper istallation procedures to support my belief. Need you immediate reply because the motor driving the pump (20 Horsepower do not last for one year. which I believe this installation/set-up is one of the causes. Thank you for your time!
Danny Maturan The common cause for pump failure is improper tanks and pressure switches. 20 hp is normally used for small farms it's way to big for a common house use. you only need like 5gpm max for a house, along with proper bladder tanks.
it is possible that the position of the motor is not correct. The type of motor may have bearings that are radial loaded and if horizontal or partially tilted, the bearings will prematurely fail. most submersible pumps are ok to tilt or lay on their side but not all.
.. where's your Rope on the pump in case the Pipe breaks & you gotta pull it out of the well..?
also there should be wire guides every 15 feet...
Sir,you have toturial vedio rewind of submeresible pump?
What is the size of the casing sir?