Making The Better Router Sled/Flattening Jig Even Better! Time For Some Upgrades!
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- In this video I'm taking another look at the router sled and making some upgrades!
Here's the link to the original build video.
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9:43 you can make your router attachment plate out of aluminum
Space the long rails further off the table, attach this to a wall and change the router out for a skill saw to both rip and do wide cross cuts as both a panel saw and router sled system, not just use it to flatten but do dado cuts cross cut and rip cut you can also do cabnits peg holes for adjustable shelf cabnits. The basic concept has a lot more uses.
You've just saved me a ton of money - great set of router sled videos, very much appreciated!
I don’t usually comment on videos, but this one is awesome!! Not only is the sled bad ass, but your presentation is very concise and and informative. I started with the first video on the sled build and was looking forward to the next one and then the next one.
I will definitely be building this sled for myself using your videos!
A+ to you for the sled idea and your video presentation!
Thanks for the kind words!!
Love this project and kudos to you for putting this together for us newbies! One thing I'm gonna try is using velcro to attach the bristles to the sides of the sled. Don't want to risk taking those aluminum angles out of square. Will keep you posted on how things go. Again, great vids!
That’s an interesting idea. I’d like to hear how it works for you. Thanks for watching!!
I built it and love it! My gosh! Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to share this set up redesign.
Thank you for letting me know about your update. Great job.
Great upgrades thanks for sharing 😊
This is a great router sled . I am very impressed. It's simple easy to use and set up . Thank you so much for this idea I think I am gonna try and make my own now.
Great video, helpful tips, nice way of presenting everything - liked and subscribed!
Cool upgrade!
These router sled videos earned you a subscriber.
Nice upgrade
Great - I'm right in the middle of building my sled per your original design, and you come up with an upgrade! Just kidding, no problem, I'm getting great ideas all around, and I look forward to having this in my shop. I'm finding that the biggest challenge is getting rails that are straight. It's not a problem for the long side rails, as they are bolted down, but the cross rails need to not bow in the middle. I've sent one pair back, and am awaiting the second. Fingers crossed.
If you wanted to make that bomb proof, I wonder if you could stiffen the whole system up by slipping a larger piece of aluminum angle iron under the rail (with the other side of the L facing up with enough clearance for the trolleys)?
was going to suggest the exact same thing @toddharvey7089 an angle or "T" frame aluminum would increase strength throughout the load bearing areas when the router comes across the center-line of the upper track
Looks awesome
Very creative..😊
Such a good place to work. 😉😉
Your presentation is really great and the backgrounds of your shop show an individual committed to detail. Can you please tell me what make and model of dust collection system is adequate for this sled?
Ok. So just built this over the weekend. Made a few small tweaks bit otherwise just like yours. Started with a 3inch bit a WOW. this this is awesome and easy. You should sell plans for this!
Glad it worked out for you! Thanks for the kind words!
Very very Nice and beautyfull machines I love that 💫💝💫🙋
At three moment I don’t have a dedicated workbench - was thinking that a very flat surface I could use is melamine, but wanted to get another opinion. Thanks and love this design.
Hi, thanks for watching. Melamine would be just fine. The important thing is that the surface is actually flat. In part 2 of this series I talked about how to make sure your surface is flat. If you haven’t seen that video here is a link. th-cam.com/video/wcQkhDzZ420/w-d-xo.htmlsi=o5UXnhIh2YFN-cci
Hi, this is a great video and a great design. My only question is do you have a link to the bearings? Or did I miss it? Thanks so much.
I love your design. Thanks for sharing. Thinking of going ahead and make one for my shop. I am trying to understand why you got two different (yet seem to be the same) upper and lower rails?
Hello, thanks for watching! The upper rails are a bit heavier so they are less likely to deflect.
I've had that router in my table for about eight years: I'm not too crazy about height adjustment in a table, but I will say that motor doesn't bog down. How do you like the finish with that bit? I am shopping for one now myself. I have been wrestling with hoses and wires being in the way, and I had an idea to mount a rod on the ceiling that is attached by a swivel at one end. The other end gets the power and dust collection attached to it, so that as the tool progresses across the workpiece, the rod rotates across the workpiece while helping to keep the hose and wire up far enough out of the way. I have tried what you are using now, but I think it could be better. Thanks for another great video.
Hello, thanks for watching. I am very impressed with this 3” bit. I did both sides of a table and matching bench. Bit didn’t leave any burn marks whatsoever. If you check out that video you’ll see I also ended up routing off an entire melamine form. So far all with the first cutting edge. I’m just now thinking I’ll rotate the cutters.
Well done, the router sled movement(no pun intended) is gaining `traction`....
your video gives terrific ideas.
From your work here, I will use some of your designs whilst constructing my sled.
And,,,,, wow, what a beautiful 3 inch cutter.... where did you get that from,.?
Thank you very much. you are a star.
really kind thoughts for posting your work .
Roj.
Hello, thanks for watching and the kind word! I bought that bit from Amazon. There are links in the video description to the items I used for this.
It seems a good design, thanks! I might make one.
Just a tip, buy yourself a cheap 3D printer and you'll make yourself all the adaptors you need, whenever you need ;-)
I followed all the versions - congratulations for the good ideas! However, one thing has been bothering me from the start: does the cross rails sag in the middle, especially with the new heavier router?
Hello, thanks for watching! I used heavier rails for the upper rails to avoid sagging.
Great video and enjoying making my own version. Quick question, why use the aluminium angles for the bearing support and not attach the bearing directly to the wood platform. I can only think for depth of cut but can't you use a collett extension to combat this? It would reduce complexity of build?? Thanks Mark
You are correct, I did the aluminum angles just for depth of cut. You could use an extension and it will probably work just fine. I just don’t personally like to use extensions due to the added stress put on the machine. Thanks for watching!
Ad CNC controls, automation
Flattening
Sanding
Drilling, precision matrix of holes for wood or steel fab/fixture tables
Grinding, eg, for building 1/2 steel fab/fixture table,
First off, amazing project and im gonna replicate this, i do have a concern followed by a question. Concerning the skirt, does it hinder you at all as you have a large area taken from sight without breaking it down? My only thought on what i might do differently is have all 4 sides *Of the skirt* separated into 4 separate skirts, and make them removable with wingnuts to speed up checking set ups. Now if you can tell me if this is not needed and why i would love to know. Again this is a really amazing detail oriented router sled. Great video and nice job, thank you for your time and sharing this with us.
Hey thanks for watching! The skirting does make bit changes a little cumbersome. I’d be interested to know how your idea works when you get it done. Thanks again!
I noticed on Amazon that the bristles that you used are available in two lengths. How did you determine which legend to use and which length did you use?
Hello, thanks for watching. I use the 70mm bristles. That is about 2 3/4”. I figured that was more than long enough.
Are you still glad you went with the “T” style rails for the top and not the solid round ones or does it matter?
I haven’t had any issues using this style of rail. I don’t think it would matter much one way or the other
Do you have plans for your workbench that you used as a base for this? I have (almost) everything I need to build my router sled but the bench is my one hold back. Your bench looks extraordinary!
Hey thanks for watching! Unfortunately I don’t have plans for the bench. I built that off the top of head.
I build the same table, you need a upgrade spring balancer
I really like that idea! Thanks for watching!
@7:00, you have a clamp directly on the table saw fence. I am familiar with the style, but how does it mount directly?
That fence has channels in it just like T-track that you might use in a workbench. Thanks for watching!
What kind of dust collector are you using? Mine is only 650cfm and im not sure it would pull enough as that router and bit will make a ton of waste. I may stick with my shop vac and dust rite separator. Either way, nice and look forward to seeing this in action
Hello, thanks for watching! I’ve got a small craftsman dust collector I picked up used. I was just working on a slab this afternoon and I was pretty happy with it. Still not perfect of course but it was keeping up much better than my old setup.
Why not use the same style rails for both upper and lower components? Is the difference only the lengths of the rails?
The upper rails are heavier. My thought is they would be less likely to deflect. Thanks for watching!!
Great job I’m curious why you used two different brands of rails for the upper and lower?
Thanks
Hey, thanks for watching. I was seeking the best prices I could find along with getting the lengths I wanted and also I used heavier rails for the uppers so I get less deflection.
Makes sense thank you
This is great. So how much “all in” would you say it’s costs roughly?
The original sled build was just under 200.00. Adding the sweeps for dust control and the misc hardware was only about 20.00. The spoil board bit was about 80.00. The new router was a little more than 300.00 but the router is of course used for more than just the sled.
You know the brush you added is such a great idea and almost obvious, but many who build a router sled dont think ofbit. Meanwhile their cnc has one, lol.
I used linear rails when designing my circular saw crosscut jig. I couldnt find the rails in 9fy lengths plus my shop is to tiny for something of that length. So it is instead 6ft long and I designed it so there are 2 plates under the saw.one is attached to the rails and the other is attached to the saw. This makes the saw removable and portable. I use 2 compression springs and a steel dowel to hold the plates together so there is no movement of the plates as you cut. The bottom plate has a circle a 1/4" larger than the blades circumfrence so when i want to cut across instead of lengthwise i just lift the saw,twist it until the dowels align with the top plate and cut away.I can take it outside on nice days or stand it up on end secure it to the wall and it becomes a panel saw. When its not in use it stores above the assembly table via pulleys. Think of a bicycle lift for the garage and its similar to mine. If the rails in my area were cheaper, i can think of dozens of applications. Thanks for disscussing your set up. Its pretty sweet!.
Measurements on the bottom board for the router?
I would suggest making yours just big enough to fit your router and dust collection. Any extra width or length just reduces the usable length of the rails. Thanks for watching!
Doesn't look like the dust collection works very well.
Clearly you fave never used one of these before.
@@Qwiv Clearly you don't know what I have used before.
@@RazorStrap i do, because you can’t see dust in the video. Only little chips. So, you proved your own ignorance.
Can’t wait to see yours
What thickness is the 2in angle you are using?
Hello,
The aluminum angles are 2x2x1/8”.
How did you get your router not to sag in the center? I have about 1/4" of sag. I suspect none of your finished tables are actually flat.
Hi, thanks for watching. My upper rails are quite a bit heavier than my lower rails so they don’t sag as long as you’re not pushing down on the sled….. you have to pull straight across. My tables have been turning out very flat.
Never throw away carbide inserts,
You recycle them and carbide scraps worth it weight in gold, well almost but its more then any other
Metal scrap, in fact don't throw away any metal scrap, even tin.
This material has to be mined it cost far less to melt metal down then it costs to dig it up.
It also waste energy.
And you can make things out or old saw blades and files.
But carbide can be melted down and used to make more carbide or additive into steel. Save the carbide toolz in a coffee can until you get a bunch and find out during the spring time what its worth late spring is the best time to sell your scrap metals.