If you read the book Brazen Chariots, It appears that it was named a Honey by the South Africans. Apparently, They were so upset with their current tanks. Constantly losing treads in the rugged north african deserthat when they got the stuart, They were immediately taken with it.I believe the quote was something like, "It drives like a honey."
Good review, but he brings up a good point at the end. 4th ed has gone tank heavy and infantry have become an afterthought. Not sure if it is the World of Tanks mindset taking over the game or they have a higher profit margin on plastic tanks. Agree on a starter campaign sheet being useful but there was one other thing missing. D-Day had the V1 launch rail, older box sets had 3d objective markers (destroyed tanks, HQ, ect). They needed something unique in the box to make it a must have, printed building, piece of terrain, or plastic stowage sprues, something you could not get anywhere else. Also agree even replacing one tank sprue with an infantry sprue for each side would have worked out well. Last bit is I am not happy with the new habit of not putting decals in the boxes now. A basic cost cutting effort that really detracts from the kit lessening the overall experience quite a bit for modelers.
Nice. I don't play FoW but I always found it to be an interesting looking table top miniature wargame. I almost forgot about their scale size. Not gonna lie those tanks look like perfect scale size to be converted into Warhammer 40k Grot Tanks or at least their tank treads can be used when if you scratch build one.
Battlefront has the best value for tabletop gaming in my opinion. Between the 2 player starter boxes and the Army boxes. I absolutely love this box. I would take the germans
I agree..but only to an extent. Battlefront has superb value in "some" of their boxes. The combo boxes, army boxes, etc. are great deals - their basic kit boxes are comically priced by comparison (which begs the question...why).
@@oskar6661 And now without cards and decals, for me about 20 Euros on top to get those separately, two factions starters come closer to an army box in price, (old Army box price that is) they increased by 20 Euros since this video.
I personally would prefer to see cardboard counters put back into the kit. I get that it cuts costs by printing them on the box, but it's a royal pain to cut them out. I loved the old starter set's solid cardboard pieces and still use them to this day. They are sturdy, attractive, and extremely functional. Regarding plastic infantry, in BF's defense they had plastic infantry made from an earlier starter set. To do it here they would have to had redone at least the German infantry line. The DAK infantry were metal figures, so it would have increased the cost of the set to go metal or to make a new range of plastic DAK troops. All of the other vehicle are preexisting plastics that have been around for a few years, so it was easy enough to just mold more sprues. A nice thought to get more plastic infantry, but I don't think it would have been a practical decision to make. Perhaps we'll see plastic infantry return to the starter sets when the Eastern Front starter sets come out late this year. Russian rifles and German grenadiers are already available in plastic, so it might not be such a stretch to see them in the future.
Great review. I'm not interested in historicals at all, but this video made me want to reconsider; even with it being a completely different scale than anything I already have. Keep up the good work.
Mine arrived today. I am a bit disappointed. Aside for the Shermans molded in olive drab, the Lees and Stuarts are molded in the British yellow color. Not happy about that. Odd that Battlefront did not include decals in the kit.
There’s an amazing amount of value in this box considering it costs about the same as a small 2 character expansion for Marvel Crisis Protocol.
If you read the book Brazen Chariots, It appears that it was named a Honey by the South Africans. Apparently, They were so upset with their current tanks. Constantly losing treads in the rugged north african deserthat when they got the stuart, They were immediately taken with it.I believe the quote was something like, "It drives like a honey."
Good review, but he brings up a good point at the end. 4th ed has gone tank heavy and infantry have become an afterthought. Not sure if it is the World of Tanks mindset taking over the game or they have a higher profit margin on plastic tanks. Agree on a starter campaign sheet being useful but there was one other thing missing. D-Day had the V1 launch rail, older box sets had 3d objective markers (destroyed tanks, HQ, ect). They needed something unique in the box to make it a must have, printed building, piece of terrain, or plastic stowage sprues, something you could not get anywhere else. Also agree even replacing one tank sprue with an infantry sprue for each side would have worked out well. Last bit is I am not happy with the new habit of not putting decals in the boxes now. A basic cost cutting effort that really detracts from the kit lessening the overall experience quite a bit for modelers.
Thank you for this. I think this might be my first purchase into Flames of War now that I've seen it can be affordable
Nice. I don't play FoW but I always found it to be an interesting looking table top miniature wargame.
I almost forgot about their scale size. Not gonna lie those tanks look like perfect scale size to be converted into Warhammer 40k Grot Tanks or at least their tank treads can be used when if you scratch build one.
Battlefront has the best value for tabletop gaming in my opinion. Between the 2 player starter boxes and the Army boxes. I absolutely love this box. I would take the germans
I agree..but only to an extent. Battlefront has superb value in "some" of their boxes. The combo boxes, army boxes, etc. are great deals - their basic kit boxes are comically priced by comparison (which begs the question...why).
@@oskar6661 And now without cards and decals, for me about 20 Euros on top to get those separately, two factions starters come closer to an army box in price, (old Army box price that is) they increased by 20 Euros since this video.
Where are the assembled models?
I personally would prefer to see cardboard counters put back into the kit. I get that it cuts costs by printing them on the box, but it's a royal pain to cut them out. I loved the old starter set's solid cardboard pieces and still use them to this day. They are sturdy, attractive, and extremely functional.
Regarding plastic infantry, in BF's defense they had plastic infantry made from an earlier starter set. To do it here they would have to had redone at least the German infantry line. The DAK infantry were metal figures, so it would have increased the cost of the set to go metal or to make a new range of plastic DAK troops. All of the other vehicle are preexisting plastics that have been around for a few years, so it was easy enough to just mold more sprues. A nice thought to get more plastic infantry, but I don't think it would have been a practical decision to make.
Perhaps we'll see plastic infantry return to the starter sets when the Eastern Front starter sets come out late this year. Russian rifles and German grenadiers are already available in plastic, so it might not be such a stretch to see them in the future.
50mm stubbie, 50mm long and the 75mm that was called the special by the allies (Pkz F2) by the Germans I believe.
good value box set, though I agree some infantry would be nice
Great review. I'm not interested in historicals at all, but this video made me want to reconsider; even with it being a completely different scale than anything I already have. Keep up the good work.
Skip Flames of War and try Battlegroup. Far better game, and you can use Flames of War miniatures, so...win-win.
just only got the "on the beach set " so this review is great thanks , no decals again I see (sighs)
going to review Tobruk set too ? pretty please?
I've been tempted to try out FW for a year or two, and I wanted an excuse to read more on the late North African campaign, this might be it.
Were are the Markers? You need Markers to Play the Game.
Mine arrived today. I am a bit disappointed. Aside for the Shermans molded in olive drab, the Lees and Stuarts are molded in the British yellow color. Not happy about that. Odd that Battlefront did not include decals in the kit.
Does it really matter if you're going to prime them?
I was wondering there seems to be 2 Kasserine Starter Boxes, I've seen one with 88's for the Germans and the American do not have Sherman's just Lees.
There is a separate Tobruk box which features Italians and British.
I have a question: Does the set include decals for the tanks of both forces? Thank you.
Apparently not. I got mine today and no decals. The box is misleading as it shows the models with decals, but doesn't say they are included.
@@batesmt25 Thanks for letting me know. Might get one anyway, though.
Which companies are selling it at 20-25% off??? or should I wait a couple of years 😜
just one question: how many of each tank are in the box?
Four M3 Lees
Three M4 Shermans
Five M3 Stuarts
Six Panzer IIIs
Three Panzer IVs
Three 5cm AT guns