I feel like Taylor Swift has shown that losing this category can't make or break your career. Her reaction to this lost led to making Fearless that won AOTY.
His vantage point is a bit limited to appreciate Jasmine Sullivan’s contribution to the zeitgeist. And there’s more of Jasmine to come! I would not be surprised if he changes his opinion in the next couple of years.
Duffy's also pretty nice, and kinda shitty to toss her under the bus like that since her career fell off because she was abducted and raped (an obviously understandable reason to get the fuck out of the music industry). Duffy absolutely could've had Adele's career path (Rockferry was the #1 album in the UK in 2008, Mercy was a great single that dominated the radio, both do that "blue-eyed soul" shtick), but she's only just now getting back into music. calling her a nobody is ignorant.
Constructive critique: You should put more space in between each group of awards that you're talking about. Especially if one doesn't happen to be looking at the screen to see the quick little '#' change. They tend to blur together.
@@JUNK_ZONEI was watching it. I was saying that even when looking at the screen it blended together. I was speaking for the folks that do normally just listen to these types of video essays like podcasts. There was actually NOTHING interesting on screen. Just silent montages of music video clips while he spoke over them. So yeah, most people would just listen to this type of vid and may miss the ranking numbers.
@@JUNK_ZONE And the transitions were so non existant between each ranking that if somone were to look away from the screem for a split second they could miss that it shifted to another award.
"The Beatles went up against some nobodies" and Tom Jobim is on the list. Dude's one of the most important names of Brazilian music of all time and he's the singer/songwriter of The Girl From Ipanema, which is one of the most played and praised songs ever.
@@LuizHenrique-dw7mg pois é, foda... 😭😭😭 acho que foi incompetência da parte dele mesmo, não é como se Tom fosse desconhecido lá fora. como o José disse, Garota de Ipanema é um fenômeno universal hoje em dia.
I love how in just a 3 seconds clip he disrespected the musical culture of Brazil and the entire history of Bossa Nova and Latin Jazz in order to prove why Adele won a Grammy
Bro, they are literally the most influential artists of all time with no exceptions, literally anyone who goes up against them is going to be considered a nobody, without them music would not be the same as it is now, they may have paved the way for bossa nova and latin jazz but you cannot deny the beatles are the greatest artists of all time
So I'm a big jazz fan and your assessment on Spalding is completely wrong. She's actually done several albums that have been extremely well received in the jazz community, and her last album one the best jazz vocal performance album at the Grammys in 2020. It also reached number one on the charts for jazz. So she actually is extremely successful and I think you're biased as well as you not knowing just as well or at least contemporary jazz really misinformed you on this because I think you should have maybe googled or Wikipedia her to actually say if she has been successful afterwards because she's never going to be a pop or R&B success.
He also said that the Beatles won against a bunch of nobodies as if Petula Clark hasn't sold 68 million records. As if her Ivor novello award-winning number one hit song downtown has it been covered by over a hundred and twenty different artists ranging from Billy Preston, Baby Spice, groundskeeper Willie of The Simpsons, Bjork, Marianne Faithfull, The B-52s, Frank Sinatra, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Dolly Parton to name just a few. AstrudGilberto was also one of the nominees at the Beatles beat you know the legendary Brazilian composer who did The Girl From Ipanema which is quite literally the most famous Brazilian song ever. The Beatles did turn into some of the greatest artists of the 21st century but if we are talking about 1963 it was a pop band who won out against actual composers. And even as a Beatles fan does anybody really ever give praise to Please Please Me?
@@Chelaxim Petula Clark was a fave of my gram... So I was shock to hear that .. Because in my house and most Black households we don't listen to The Beatles. I do respect the Beatles Because I do think that they were extremely experimental in their music and I like the fact that they were very anti-segregation and they were proud to speak on the influences that brought them to music but the people that they were going against are Legends. Again it's just someone who's extremely misinformed and I find that there's a lot of people who don't know older music except for whoever was extremely popular or the well-known name, so they just order back to assume that's the person who should win or deserve to win when there are a lot of factors that go into it. Again I just think that he should have done more research before making some of these statements I know that they're his opinions but it's just that someone stuff he's saying is so misinformed it drives me crazy. Like he said he didn't know who Joss Stone was, just don't have such a loyal fan base and the girl has such a beautiful voice, and the fact that he said that Dua lupa was the only deserving winner in her category versus HER and Chloe X Halle.. Makes no sense.
I wish more jazz artists and upcoming new voices would be considered by the Grammys. Here in London the young jazz scene has definitely blown up big time and there are some fantastic new talents who I wish would recieve plaudits for their work.
@@lamusicadehairyfrog3338 but he could keep the rude opinion to himself because it could hurt someone he called nobody and he straight up bullying megan
Why do people act like some sort of prophet or genius when they say she’s gonna win best new artist... of course we don’t know but saying ‘calling it’ is a bit of a stretch when you’re not being particularly insightful.
@@sharon-bp9pk she's a billie eilish 2.0 (in her popularity, not sound or whatever.) Honestly it's not like she's even gonna have competition this year either. The only reason you should be upset at people "calling" something is because it's so obvious.
@@sharon-bp9pk It’s true… The most clearcut winner, regardless of whatever gonna come out next. She’s broken far too many records in such short notice for the Grammy’s to ignore the achievements. She got this on lock.
She will be nominated but I don't want her to win the Best New Artist. She will suffer the curse later. She better be like Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber, Kendrick Lamar and Nicki Minaj. They have been nominated but did not win however they are still successful and making hits one aftet the other.😘
Imagine having a music-centered channel and calling Tom Jobin a nobody... like, the dude defined Bossa Nova and has one of the most popular songs ever - Girl from Ipanema.
Are you seriously making fun of the other artists nominated alongside Adele? She truly deserved to win, but hell, that year was stacked with talent. All artists, except for Duffy, have continued to make relevant music with sizable fanbases. And although Duffy disappeared for awhile, she had a more than valid excuse.
@@mandymerlin1649 yea, it also was a much bigger album than Adele's 19 from that same year as her song 'Mercy' was everywhere. Adele wasn't a bad pick for the award that year but I honestly thought Duffy would win it because it seemed like they were priming her to pick up the ball from Amy Winehouse. Amy was personally floundering in the late 00s and quickly becoming more famous for scandal than music so they were looking for the next big British songstress. But then Duffy disappeared and Adele moved up.
Apparently the reason Duffy vanished was because she got kidnapped and... other traumatic things happened. So she's off the hook... I hope she has a Brendan Fraser comeback story eventually.
triste mesmo... esse canal tem um conteúdo legal pra música *popular* americana mas caaaara ele tem uns pontos cegos bem fodas. Antônio Carlos Jobim é renomado lá fora, fácil o artista brasileiro mais influente na música estadunidense... só que ele faz Jazz, e eu não acho que Jazz é um ponto forte do Alfo Media. sei lá, é bem claro que ele gosta muito dos artistas que ele comenta, mas falta um pouco de pesquisa sobre o assunto que ele tá comentando.
reforçando meu ponto, ele comentou que Esperanza Spalding foi a única artista de Jazz a ganhar o prêmio best new artist, mesmo logo depois ele mencionando a vitória de Norah Jones e Amy Winehouse em seus respectivos anos. meio contraditório, não?
@@jeremyhill727 well honestly speaking, if Amy was alive I believe she would have a career similar or way better than Adele. Taylor wouldnt be a bad fit for the award, but Amy deserved it.
I'm shocked by the amount of artists you don't know. I'm not exaggerating, I barely leave the underside of my rock, and I knew more of these nominees. I'm not saying you need to love them all, but you should familiarize yourself with everyone you're talking about if you're going to compare them, at least. And also, as someone who has a music channel and is in theory interested in music, are you not at all curious about them?
@@youngthug5889 nah, it seems like he's more mad about someone who has a popular channel about music, not taking a small snippet of time to learn about or acknowledge an artist just because they're not mainstream.
I came across the video as a recommendation. Watched it. A little disappointed that you only know "mainstream" artists of color. Jill Scott, H.E.R and Jazzmine Sullivan are forces in the world of RnB. Heather Hadley is no slouch either, being a Tony award winner and phenomenal singer. If you make more videos like this, I would suggest listening to the other nominees and research their influence outside of what you know.
The fact that Lady Gaga was not even nominated for Best New Artist when she ruled the late 2000’s and early 2010’s😭she’s far too talented for them Grammys
That same "nobody" you just called released one of the best projects of this year (Heaux Tales) and is a frontrunner in many album of the year nomination predictions for 2022 grammys, literally won album of the year at the BET awards, and is currently the most acclaimed r&b album since possibly Ctrl by SZA. you better put some respect on Jazmine Sullivan's name next time!
@@PixarLogan Correction: YOU don't know who she is. Is Jazz, Black female Jazz in particular, even a genre of music you pay close attention to? I highly doubt it, Logan...
@@deviantmoore9744 most people don’t just look at the billboard top 100 or how many views she has. Not many compared to others like Adele or Drake or Ariana Grande
People using the word "nobody" literally 😂. Doesn't mean you and someone else know someone doesn't make them well known compared to the artists mentioned. We get it they have a following but that doesn't mean they're well known/ popular.
@@roms9553 Of course it wasn't. The point is that it's not Macklemore's fault he won. People should hate the grammy's for their terrible decisions rather than macklemore
His album was mediocre just like him. Take away the expensive production and only read his lyrics. They don't stack up to all the other rappers nominated.
The disrespect and lack of musical knowledge in this video is ridiculous. On what planet is Jazmine Sullivan a nobody? She literally just performed at the Superbowl. Also you don't know who Jill Scott, Brad Paisely, or The Jonas Brothers are? How do you run a music channel?
As much as I agree with your opinion about Alessia Cara, even though I personally enjoy her music, but the disrespect she got for winning that award was completely unnecessary
Yeah I think that's the reason why she don't get a lot a radio play in America. She's gets alot of play in Canada tho of course. But the hate train behind her that year winning that Grammy was so much for her she shut down all of her social media for three years, people even forgot bout her real quicky. I tell ppl I listen to her, and ppl response would be like, "oh yeah what happened to her?" "I thought she stop doing music?" "Or I thought she was dead?" 🤦🏾♂️ She's so underrated and deserves so much respect and more attention. Her new album is So goood!🔥 Go stream, "In The Meantime" EVERYONE!
Fun fact: Esperanza Spalding isn't the only jazz musician to win the Best New Artist Grammy. I know where you got this information from. It's from Wikipedia, isn't it? I also read that sentence where it said "Of all the winners, only one (Esperanza Spalding) has been a jazz artist." The source of that claim is from a now defunct entertainment news website who somehow made a lazy false claim. But, no actually, Spalding wasn't the first and only jazz musician to win the award. The first Best New Artist Grammy was awarded to Bobby Darin in 1960. Darin made two albums before the award, one is for his rock and roll music and the second one is for adult standard a la Frank Sinatra jazz. Darin was the first jazz artist to win Best New Artist. Then in 1962, Peter Nero, a jazz pianist won the same award. He is also a jazz musician. In 2003, Norah Jones won Best New Artist. Isn't she jazz? You even mentioned her in this video. In 2008 Amy Winehouse won the award too, though she won it for her Back to Black record which is essentially soul and rhythm and blues, but she is considered to be a jazz musician. Her 2003 album Frank is jazz. So no, Esperanza Spalding is not the only jazz musician to win Best New Artist. I hope someone is going to fix that sentence in the Wikipedia article so no one else is going to be misinformed.
@@KNightRider504 They were jazz artists who won the Grammy's Best New Artist award. The point is, Esperanza Spalding isn't the only jazz artist to win Best New Artist as he falsely claimed with his "fun fact".
”i have friends that are jazz musicians” and then calling Jobim and Gilberto some nobodies... is it the musical equivalent of ”i have black friends” and then proceeds to be racist ? I mean this list is biased af, i didn’t learned a thing except the musical tastes of that guy
You expecting something other than the musical tastes of the person making the list about music? No list can be objectively right they are all going to reflect the person making it
@@nibyafternight1983 They are nobodies to an American or general English-speaking audience, I’m sure they were the cream of the crop of Brazilian music in the 50’s but very few people outside of those countries or cultures know them
@@Spielmaldingens wait for what? she already broke the curse and made a way better album than her debut, she has multiple hits with Futur Nostalgia and another Grammy.
I’d disagree with the assessment of Esperanza’s career. I’m a jazz musician and in my experience at least, she is still known and respected in that sphere. She’ll probably never have like big pop success, but some of her work in more recent times has still been critically well received, she still plays major jazz festivals with high billing, and you occasionally see some small mainstream media coverage of her work. I’d say she’s had a fairly typical level of career success for someone who’s “famous” specifically by the standards of the modern day jazz world.
As an American, I have no clue who that guy is. I heard he's some really famous brazilian musician, but let's be honest, no one was going to win against the beatles.
@@chromberries7329 i agree, but just because the beatles were the right and obvious winners that doesnt mean the competition, specifically tom jobim, was weak
@@chromberries7329 Tom Jobim was easily one of the most influential artists of all time in the field of Jazz and specially Bossa Nova. sure he didn't have the pop appeal of The Beatles but he did make a ton of noise in his time, even collaborating with Frank Sinatra and Stan Getz at one point. The Girl from Ipanema is still one of the most remarkable songs of all time, even outside of Brazil!
@@ronin2841 Calling someone a nobody isn’t an opinion. He basically just said that they’re not artists simply because they didn’t win a fake gold Grammy
I don't think Macklemore was a victim of the Grammy curse. He was getting a lotta unnecessary hate and he just..............retired. Also, megan thee stallion already had industry support, so her winning wasn't surprising at all, guess Phoebe Bridgers deserved it.
Seeing the amount of awards Megan swept.. as much as I think she’s a talented rapper (but I don’t like her music) I felt odd watching her sweep those awards when SAVAGE got song of the year or some shit
@@firstlast9846 same here, she must be talented but I don't like her stuff. He winning 'best new artist' isn't a problem, but savage was definitely not the rap song of the year.
Macklemore got bullied out of the industry. Feel bad for him, he probably wishes he didn't win those awards, his career probably would've gone better with just the nominations because he wouldn't have been so despised by everyone.
Oh my gosh right!? I was thinking the same thing, 50 Cent fell right off the map after he won that. Whereas Evanescence changed music so much and own an entire era of music
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak He basically fell of the mainstream radar after like 2009, or maybe even earlier, in my opinion, you just don't hear people gush about him and wait for what comes next from him as they would for someone like Jay-Z or Kayne.
Taylor not winning best new artist was probably the best thing for her career. And Carrie won the previous year so awarding BNA to another country act wouldn’t be a good look.
Also Duffy was a white British woman who also made sixties inspired R&B and her album came out before Adele's. You know also the reason why it wasn't the most clear-cut winner and this dude is looking back at hindsight being 20-20? Because everybody knows that Adele did not have any radio play in the United States in 2009. Jazmine Sullivan and Duffy actually did have hits in 2009 in the US. This dude is doing some major historical revision because Adele actually was the upset winner. Adele was the nobody who won against the Stars.
Jonas Brothers sort of dropped off in the 2010’s with the exception of their comeback recently. Adele was a nobody when she won her Grammy and became the biggest artist in the world a couple years later
You really need to check out what Esperanza Spalding has been doing in the last 5 years. It’s some of the most inventive music, especially her 2016 album was one of the best of that year.
I appreciate your effort into making this video but calling some of the artist like Adele or The Beatles won ''against some nobodies'' is shady af and it shouldnt have place in the music and these musicians wouldnt be happy about that too
Yea. God help us if award shows awarded people only based on popularity. And whats wrong with being a "nobody"? They still make music for people who hear it.
It was just plainly disrespectful, especially since some artists who were in the running just don’t have him as a demographic and/or are bigger in the international market
You should probably take a page out of Todd in the shadows, diamond axe Studios or literally every other music channel on TH-cam some books and listen to music that you don't have any knowledge of before you make a video. Calling Jazmine Sullivan and Duffy nobody's is probably the silliest nothing you have said rivaling calling Paula Abdul semi-famous. People who actually know about music know that Duffy did everything Adele did a year prior. And like Duffy you didn't even look up who Joss Stone was newsflash dude Adele is only the fourth iteration of white British singer who make sixties inspired RnB. Joss Stone,Amy Winehouse and Duffy walked so Adele could run.
@@momo7989 this dude is doing some historical revisionism because and 2009 it was Adele the nobody who won against the Stars. Nobody expected Adele to win because Duffy actually had a hit with Mercy Chasing Pavements was not a hit in the US. As well I bust the windows out your car also was a throwback R&B Jam. So Adele was actually the one with a retro R&B found that nobody heard of that one against the two other retro R&B artist who people actually did know
@@Chelaxim yup. Her winning was actually a shock to a lot of people. Now I personally love listening to British music so I had her chasing payments but her winning over Duffy who was more popular at the time in both the US and in the UK made no sense. And Jasmine Sullivan again is very well known in the R&B and neo soul scene so it's kind of clear that he's using a modern-day perspective on his pics but also that he hasn't listened to the albums or the songs that these artists produced.
The fact that you said you don't have anything to say about Jill Scott when she Foster Shelby Lynn makes no sense I don't like Brad Paisley but it's well known that he's actually pretty popular in country but Jill Scott is considered a genius in the R&B and neo soul genre. She's a singer songwriter and poetress.. Who's songs and albums are heavily played. Her verzuz was one of the most talked about as well. While I like dua lipa you saying she's the real stand out compared to ChloexHalle and HER, who plays her own instruments, is laughable. I'm also not seeing what's special about Billie Eilish, Black Pumas, Lil Nas X, Lizzo and Yola are better performers. He won't go is vastly underrated. I agree...but to say Adele went up against nobody's just because you don't know them is really disingenuous. Duffy it literally is expired by the exact same music that adale and Amy winehouse were inspired by. That would be 60s black soul music. Duffy's also pretty well known in the UK. Jazmine Sullivan is extremely well known among R&B and neo soul singers... She's also a singer-songwriter and has some of the best R&B albums that have been put out in the past decade. I'm not a fan of the Jonas Brothers but to say that they weren't popular and still aren't popular is a lie even one of the brothers had a huge solo career. And Lady antebellum again one of those groups with a terrible name but they actually have some good music and are quite popular in the country scene. So again I think some of your bias or you not knowing all the artists or their albums is kind of creating a bias that you yourself can't get from under.
@@MrWildeguy it's clear he doesn't have the wide range of knowledge of music.. Especially since he claims to love hip-hop. If you love hiphop, you know Jill Scott.
I know music is subjective but placing Megan Thee Stallion over Christina Aguilera and Alicia Keys is criminal. Absolutely criminal. I say it again. Criminal
Not really a fan of Meghan Trainor either, but I did not expect her to get ripped on so harshly, that made me laugh. Also, since when does Alfo media care about chord progressions?
'Hating' her and saying she's 'untalented' is just going too far. Her lyrics are boring and repetitive, but other than that, I think she's decent at what she does: making generic bubblegum pop. I have seen her on festivals and she can effortlessly put a 30 min set on. She plays multiple instruments too. She makes generic music because that's what she wants to do, but she does still have talent
Most of your top 5 is difficult to judge since they haven't had a chance to get washed up, like you said. 2000-2016 would've been a better period to consider and then a separate "looking forward" ranking for the rest. Bonny Bear's my fave here, hands down
@@manryhood I think her new music is amazing, it’s not leaning into pop however, instead it’s going for a more alternative route which is why it’s “flopping” among the pop charts.
@@javiersanchezvelasco3040 when trying to make pop music, it's an unwritten rule that you HAVE TO put your own twist to it Megan Trainor has not done that, ever.
Amy is an absolute legend. Two albums and she made a permanent mark on the music industry and set the record for most Grammy wins in one night only to be tied with Adele and Beyoncé years down the road. Her legacy is insane
The Beatles clearly deserved their win in 1965, but come on, Petula Clark wasn't a nobody. She shouldn't have been in that category, having already been an international recording star for years - just not in America until "Downtown" hit in '65.
I'm by no means a Meghan Trainor fan but isn't the music critic world dunking on her all the time getting kind of old? I haven't thought about her (except for when people talk about how much they hate her) in like 6 years
It's funny how they talk about her Corporation being basic when her music is inspired by the 1950s like have y'all heard music from the 1950s? That's like somebody making an 80s inspired album then complaining about all the sympathizers and saxophones
I honestly think she is overhated, like the girl is not the best pop star to ever exist, and some of her her lyrics are cringy but she is not that bad and in my opinion still better than many other untalanted pop stars.
Christina deserved because she could SING. She was a star and while Britney might have been more successful, Christina was definitely still in the picture, well known and had a god given talented voice. Britney was a great dancer and performer but the Grammy's were not about performances. She was an average singer on a good day.
Also this award is about artistry! Not about "star power" or success. So those factors aren't even relevant. Now I love me some Britney and she's a great dancer with a lot of bops but Christina has always been the superior artist in terms of versatility, musicianship, production, writing, messages, VOCALS etc. Her discography isn't just dance pop. Christina has actual substance that varies from supporting LGBTQ rights before it was a trend to singing about domestic abuse to powerful feminist anthems and self-acceptance. Throughout her career she's healed many people with her music. She's a literal life-saver and that is the biggest accomplishment a musician can achieve. Christina is a real artist and a real live singer, who is praised by the likes of Whitney Houston, Cher, Etta James and Pattie Labelle to be one of the best and who is cited by countless pop girls today as a major influence like Ariana Grande, Dua Lipa, Ava Max, Demi Lovato, Little Mix etc. This particular award went, deservingly, for the one with more talent and artistry, not for the one with more popularity. And that should always be the case.
The beatles "went up against some nobodies" because you don't know world music. Astrud gilberto and Antonio Carlos jobim are two super talented, super famous Brazilian artists but i guess not even cultural Americans break the self absorbed bubble. They wrote the girl from ipanema which is one of the most famous songs worldwide. th-cam.com/video/OFWCbGzxofU/w-d-xo.html
That's not what he said. He said "the Beatles went up against some nobodies". "just" would imply exclusivity, what he said was that some of the other ones were nobodies. Maybe try to not attribute the worst of intentions to people
@@DenKulesteSomFins I corrected my comment but i still think that wasn't his intent because of the context of the statement. I interpreted it has him saying that the beatles, like adele, did not face relevant competition. I'm only saying i disagree.
@@beatrizgaspar6697 no, you're not saying "I disagree", you're saying "you don't know world music". There's a difference between calling someone ignorant and saying you disagree with them. And you're still misinterpreting him, he said SOME nobodies, not ONLY nobodies.
I have to massively disagree with Esperanza Spalding. That might have been the only time the Grammys got it right. Not only has she has won multiple Grammys since for her albums and arrangements; she's easily the most technically skilled musician through and through on the list. Granted she's not mainstream, but she's not trying to be - but in the jazz world she is a literal legend. And your jazz musician friends not knowing her is embarrassing for them.
Mariah Carey is the best of the best new artist (at least among the female artists). She could sing her ass off (and she still can! even if it's not as good as in the 90s), she can write, she did great remixes and she went on to become the 90's artist of the decade. She also includes Lord in her music. She is the inspiration. Of course, you have to look past the diva-ish behaviors and some shady stuffs she puts on these days. She does that just for fun. She is actually a nice person. She started from scratch and she was here to stay and she is a living legend now.
Great list. Recency bias is a problem, it would be very interesting if you make a remake of this video in maybe 10 years from now, or a ranking from the 80's or the 90's, where the recency bias wouldn't be a problem. Great video.
I heavily disagree with yout dislike of fun. They put out two iconic albums and didnt need anything else to live in the light of pop music greatness for decades. They achieved what they wanted to and dipped afterwards, respect
Sam Smith still has an career, various hits after their BNA wins, Smith has sold over 30 Million copies of album WW, how is that kind of “fell off” Love Goes has sold over 4.5M WW…
Cool video, just a sidenote: you said The Beatles won against some nobodies and i beg to differ. I highly recommend you to listen to António Carlos Jobim (or Tom Jobim) also known as the father of bossa nova. He's a super great composer and songwriter and made albums with Frank Sinatra and Stan Getz which you for sure know about. I personally recommend the album The Wonderful World of Antonio Carlos Jobim to get a taste of his music prowess
Uh maybe this just an issue I have with your rating criteria, but I think your placement of Esperanza Spalding is just objectively wrong. Has she gone on to become some huge popstar? No, but I don't think anyone expects a jazz musician to do that. She has become one of the most successful, influential, and respected musicians in contemporary jazz, and her musicianship has not stopped evolving since she won that award. Obviously fuck the grammys, but considering the lack of commercial appeal that modern jazz has, Esperanza's success certainly earns her the award.
Adele only seems like a clear cut winner now, after we know she became a best selling artist. But at the time, Duffy was considered as the next Amy Winehouse in terms of talent and success, with bigger sales and hits than Adele. Lady A, was also quite popular in the country music world. And they became even bigger after Need You Now, which won Song and Record of the Year 2 years later. Not to mention The Jonas Brothers was the thing back then. So, no, Adele was NOT the clear choice. BUT, I agree Adele is #1 on list, because they could've chosen one of the other more popular (at the time) nominees. Instead, they somehow managed to give the awards to someone who eventually became one of the biggest selling artists of the century. That's the definition of the best decision ever.
Jill Scott and John Legend are contemporaries as are him and Alicia. It seems that Jill chose to stay in a certain musical direction and it led her career in a different path than theirs. Joss Stone in a lot of ways made the way for Duffy, Adele, and Amy. So it's interesting for Joss not to get credit because she wasn't as commercially successful as Amy and Adele. I'm finding it ironic that TJB and Lady A are being called nobodies. The Jonas Brothers are still relatively popular in their adult years and Lady A is now a lauded country act that was so respected that they changed their name. Jazmine is finally getting the mainstream recognition she deserves. It's slow but she's getting national anthem placements, just won her first Grammy on television and has had critically acclaimed projects the last couple years. Heather Headley is a Broadway icon and deserves her respect. I think the project she was nominated for was beautiful. "In My Mind" is a great song and she sings it like no other. Joss and Jill got the short end of the stick due to neo-soul coming out of relevancy in the mid 00s. Unlike Alicia and John who were able to adapt due to their input on the music, Joss couldn't maintain a hold due to her age and the American audience not connecting as well to her, and Jill thankfully pivoted. Amy and Adele were just as soulful as Joss, the resources just weren't available for Joss in the same way. I wouldn't say she's more gifted than Amy but it's not a fair comparison. To jazz being honored through Norah and Esperanza is also beautiful. CxH are snubbed a lot and deserved to be recognized. I hope we see that happening for them. HER did end up getting Song of the Year last year so I argue it made up for the snub two years ago.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Meghan Trainor is objectively bad go to rateyourmusic or smth(an objective rating site) and try to find a highly rated album or single. I'm not saying that you cant like Meghan Trainor but he definitely isn't being biased.
I remember Jonas Brothers fans were so angry at the GRAMMYS when Adele won and the JB fans call her a nobody lol and years later 21 was born and Adele became a LEGEND and Jonas Brothers split lol
Despite the timing Alessia Cara was chosen to be given her award, she still is an amazing artist with insane potential who truly deserves the recognition and who definitely does not deserve the ridiculous amount of backlash she received for winning something she had no control of, yet still earned.
I’m a huge fan of hers and I think she’s criminally underrated (probably one of the most slept on this generation). In my opinion, she has the best voice of the 2010’s and has never put out a bad song. With that being said, by definition, Khalid or Uzi probably should’ve won it. On one hand, my biased hand, I’m extremely happy with the decision because she’s one of my favorite singers of this generation, especially being someone who doesn’t give a flying fuck about modern pop music, but on the other, I’m not blind to the truth.
I just love how two talented women named Amy made this list. Amy Lee and Amy Winehouse. Such beautiful human beings with their own unique musical styles.
Bassist here, Esperanza Spalding is regarded as one of the best female bassists, and is still talked about here and there (in the bass/jazz community that is)
Adele as the clear winner against The Jonas Brothers and Duffy? as a huge Adele fan, I'm sorry but NOOO, Adele was almost a nobody in the US in 2008/2009. She was not half popular as Duffy or the Jonas Brothers, and that's what makes her win the most accurate best new artist win the Grammys ever had, it's like they predicted she will be one of the most influential artists of the following decade.
It's relaxing to see someone talk about pop music from a respectful PoV without snobbish behavior. I've never seen anyone so graceful towards Maroon 5 - though I love how even you draw the line at Meghan Trainor. I almost got choked up at seeing all those classic names. BTW check out Joss Stone if you haven't, especially her stint in Superheavy.
I love Taylor, but I am glad Amy Winehouse won that year especially because Taylor’s first album is significantly worse than her main breakthrough album Fearless. Some of the songs off of the debut were huge for country songs so I guess I understand why she was nominated. P.S I don’t think Macklemore and Ryan Lewis are that bad… like Meghan Trainer is worse
Yeah but how good an artist is isn't the only factor he uses. Like, Macklemore won against James Blake, Ed Sheeran, Kacey Musgraves and Kendrick Lamar. Artists that are far better (or commercially successful), and still relevant to this day, unlike Macklemore. Meghan Trainor sucks but her fellow nominees weren't that special, so it isn't as egregious as macklemore
Did this guy just said that Tom Jobim, the man who made girl from ipanema, the most popular song of all time and one the greatest musician to ever live was a NOBODY??? Boy, your eurocentrism is showing, go educate yourself
Hearing people complain about stale chord progressions will never get old to me. As a jazz pianist, chords are never the problem with a song. Some of the most critically acclaimed songs use the same chord progressions as Meghan trainor. More complex doesn’t inherently mean better
Amen. This needed to be said badly. Meghan’s issue lies not with the progressions but with her problematic song messages, and the fact that doo-wop is a genre that requires a LOT of soul, contrary to what one may think (Just like at the Ronettes, that is how you do it y’all) and she takes this genre and makes it into a pop derivative that feels inauthentic and lost in the machine. Meghan is a decent singer, but any of her redeeming qualities are lost in the auto tune and over-production.
both suck musically but anyway. i know dustbin can sing and can play instruments but he doesn't have artistry. he only hops on trends. Esperald deserved the award.
Christina Aguilera is the VOICE of our generation!! Also your videos needs space between ranks and should also put contenders and the year. Video is all over the place my dude
The entire album some nights, and their previous album, aim and ignite, are both masterpieces. If they kept going together they wouldn’t have been considered a BNA curse artist.
@@geezus4418 And compared to him Nickis quality clears him instantly alongside impact and numbers which he has neither so now what? just say you’re misogynistic and racist and go
Hey Alfo, would you want to make a video talking about what you think makes a good skit in an album? 🤔 Or just talking about the concept in general. I love skits because they are cute little details that add to the world of the album and that weren't necessary. The artist put them there very intentionally. But I feel like some people dislike them because when they listen to an album regularly they want the songs not an artistic statement. Good video btw😅 This isn't really relevant to the grammys, but I thought I'd mention it.
It's weird how most american artists become world famous instantly when they blow up in the States, yet some just...don't. I am French, I am 25, and I seriously thought you were being ironical when you said Carrie Underwood is one of the record sellers of the century ! I swear I never heard of her
i’m gonna have to fully disagree with your placement of Esperanza Spalding, she may not have the pop/mainstream appeal of some of the other nominees that year sure but she remains a big presence in the jazz scene to this day. she does a lot of really amazing and inventive stuff and your jazz musician friends are running in the wrong circle if they aren’t keeping up with her work tbh
I definitely haven’t heard much of Meghan trainors music since all about that bass but to discredit her and call her music the worst thing on earth is harsh af. She writes songs for other artists and has made a name in doing that herself. Of course I get her debut music was not ground breaking but she didn’t just become famous out of nowhere. I’ve only recently seen what she’s accomplished due to TikTok’s but I wouldn’t automatically bash her that way.
10:57 Damn bro, you really called Tom Jobim a nobody? He's the biggest legend in brazilian music, like, the other ones are not even close, kind of dumb tbh
Tha fact that you don't know Joss Stone makes your music taste one dimensional. She is a global singer and paved the way to singer like Amy, Adele and Natasha Benington
I really admire how this video acknowledged your bias while also being (imo) pretty objective. Heartily agreed with most takes but totally understood your perspective for everything else.
I feel like Taylor Swift has shown that losing this category can't make or break your career. Her reaction to this lost led to making Fearless that won AOTY.
I agree!
Today it's Grammys who needs her.
I mean u could say that abt some other artists that didn’t win to not just taylor
Yes she lost Best New Artist, but she has won AOTY with Fearless, 1989 and Folklore. Who else has done that?
It lost all my respect when TPAB didn't win album of the year. Like what the hell do you want more from an album??
When you called Jazmine Sullivan a “nobody”… I took that personally
His vantage point is a bit limited to appreciate Jasmine Sullivan’s contribution to the zeitgeist. And there’s more of Jasmine to come! I would not be surprised if he changes his opinion in the next couple of years.
Duffy's also pretty nice, and kinda shitty to toss her under the bus like that since her career fell off because she was abducted and raped (an obviously understandable reason to get the fuck out of the music industry). Duffy absolutely could've had Adele's career path (Rockferry was the #1 album in the UK in 2008, Mercy was a great single that dominated the radio, both do that "blue-eyed soul" shtick), but she's only just now getting back into music. calling her a nobody is ignorant.
When he mentioned the Beatles winning, bossa queen Astrud Gilberto was a "nobody" in his eyes too
Heaux Tales is also one of the best EPs to come out this year too...
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Constructive critique: You should put more space in between each group of awards that you're talking about. Especially if one doesn't happen to be looking at the screen to see the quick little '#' change. They tend to blur together.
Critique? This is 100% on your end. You hit play on a video that you didn't have the time to watch.
@@JUNK_ZONEI was watching it. I was saying that even when looking at the screen it blended together. I was speaking for the folks that do normally just listen to these types of video essays like podcasts. There was actually NOTHING interesting on screen. Just silent montages of music video clips while he spoke over them. So yeah, most people would just listen to this type of vid and may miss the ranking numbers.
@@JUNK_ZONE And the transitions were so non existant between each ranking that if somone were to look away from the screem for a split second they could miss that it shifted to another award.
I agree with this
@@JUNK_ZONE it’s still a critique
Paramore was also nominated the same year Taylor and amy were, and they would’ve been a solid contender on merit.
paramore became an opening act for Taylor...I think that tells you all you need to know
@@nikoyochum6974and Kendrick was an opener for Drake at one point. But we all saw what happened after that.
I like paramore more than amy or taylor but they definitely didn't have as much of an impact
"The Beatles went up against some nobodies" and Tom Jobim is on the list. Dude's one of the most important names of Brazilian music of all time and he's the singer/songwriter of The Girl From Ipanema, which is one of the most played and praised songs ever.
to até agora bobo que o cara chamou tom jobim de nobody
@@LuizHenrique-dw7mg pois é, foda... 😭😭😭
acho que foi incompetência da parte dele mesmo, não é como se Tom fosse desconhecido lá fora. como o José disse, Garota de Ipanema é um fenômeno universal hoje em dia.
Ah yes, "some nobodies" like Astrud Gilberto and Tom Jobim.
Maluco, como uma pessoa que chama o Tom Jobim de ninguém tem a audácia de criar um canal focado em música?
This channel needs to do more research about the topics he's discussing in his videos.
I love how in just a 3 seconds clip he disrespected the musical culture of Brazil and the entire history of Bossa Nova and Latin Jazz in order to prove why Adele won a Grammy
He doesn't sound or look Latin, and doesn't listen to Bossa Nova and Latin Jazz.
Seriously this man has some major tunnel vision.
@@nicholasluigi His subjective viewpoints really point out even on non-opinionated points of interest.
Bro, they are literally the most influential artists of all time with no exceptions, literally anyone who goes up against them is going to be considered a nobody, without them music would not be the same as it is now, they may have paved the way for bossa nova and latin jazz but you cannot deny the beatles are the greatest artists of all time
Fun fact: The Beatles won best new artist in 1965.
Yup the Beatles and Mariah Carey are the most successful best new artist winners
that wasn’t fun
@@Kevin-rg3yc and Adele too!
lmao that's odd honestly, The Beatles already had 5 massively successful studio albums at the point they won "best *new* artist"
As a Beatles fan I know it shouldn't bother me that they were very popular in 1964 but it does
So I'm a big jazz fan and your assessment on Spalding is completely wrong. She's actually done several albums that have been extremely well received in the jazz community, and her last album one the best jazz vocal performance album at the Grammys in 2020. It also reached number one on the charts for jazz. So she actually is extremely successful and I think you're biased as well as you not knowing just as well or at least contemporary jazz really misinformed you on this because I think you should have maybe googled or Wikipedia her to actually say if she has been successful afterwards because she's never going to be a pop or R&B success.
He also said that the Beatles won against a bunch of nobodies as if Petula Clark hasn't sold 68 million records. As if her Ivor novello award-winning number one hit song downtown has it been covered by over a hundred and twenty different artists ranging from Billy Preston, Baby Spice, groundskeeper Willie of The Simpsons, Bjork, Marianne Faithfull, The B-52s, Frank Sinatra, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Dolly Parton to name just a few. AstrudGilberto was also one of the nominees at the Beatles beat you know the legendary Brazilian composer who did The Girl From Ipanema which is quite literally the most famous Brazilian song ever. The Beatles did turn into some of the greatest artists of the 21st century but if we are talking about 1963 it was a pop band who won out against actual composers. And even as a Beatles fan does anybody really ever give praise to Please Please Me?
@@Chelaxim Petula Clark was a fave of my gram... So I was shock to hear that .. Because in my house and most Black households we don't listen to The Beatles. I do respect the Beatles Because I do think that they were extremely experimental in their music and I like the fact that they were very anti-segregation and they were proud to speak on the influences that brought them to music but the people that they were going against are Legends. Again it's just someone who's extremely misinformed and I find that there's a lot of people who don't know older music except for whoever was extremely popular or the well-known name, so they just order back to assume that's the person who should win or deserve to win when there are a lot of factors that go into it. Again I just think that he should have done more research before making some of these statements I know that they're his opinions but it's just that someone stuff he's saying is so misinformed it drives me crazy. Like he said he didn't know who Joss Stone was, just don't have such a loyal fan base and the girl has such a beautiful voice, and the fact that he said that Dua lupa was the only deserving winner in her category versus HER and Chloe X Halle.. Makes no sense.
Facts
She released a very experimental EP recently, she is a truly artists which sadly would never get the recognition that she deserves
I wish more jazz artists and upcoming new voices would be considered by the Grammys. Here in London the young jazz scene has definitely blown up big time and there are some fantastic new talents who I wish would recieve plaudits for their work.
A lot of unnecessary hate on the winners as well as fellow nominees in this video
For real. Absolutely dismissed Jazmine Robbinson and only showed his bias for specific artists
go cry ab it it’s his opinions on his video
@@FormalFilmsProductions he literally says that his personal opinion is factored into the rankings
@@ethan_garrell46807 ok? I never said that he can’t have any
@@lamusicadehairyfrog3338 but he could keep the rude opinion to himself because it could hurt someone he called nobody and he straight up bullying megan
Calling it, Olivia Rodrigo is winning this year. Not what I want, but what the Grammys will pick.
the curse will work as usual. hehe
Why do people act like some sort of prophet or genius when they say she’s gonna win best new artist... of course we don’t know but saying ‘calling it’ is a bit of a stretch when you’re not being particularly insightful.
@@sharon-bp9pk she's a billie eilish 2.0 (in her popularity, not sound or whatever.) Honestly it's not like she's even gonna have competition this year either.
The only reason you should be upset at people "calling" something is because it's so obvious.
@@sharon-bp9pk It’s true… The most clearcut winner, regardless of whatever gonna come out next. She’s broken far too many records in such short notice for the Grammy’s to ignore the achievements. She got this on lock.
She will be nominated but I don't want her to win the Best New Artist. She will suffer the curse later. She better be like Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber, Kendrick Lamar and Nicki Minaj. They have been nominated but did not win however they are still successful and making hits one aftet the other.😘
Imagine having a music-centered channel and calling Tom Jobin a nobody... like, the dude defined Bossa Nova and has one of the most popular songs ever - Girl from Ipanema.
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@@miguelfreitas8517 10:55
Big uff
Are you seriously making fun of the other artists nominated alongside Adele? She truly deserved to win, but hell, that year was stacked with talent. All artists, except for Duffy, have continued to make relevant music with sizable fanbases. And although Duffy disappeared for awhile, she had a more than valid excuse.
I really hope Duffy is doing well. Rockferry was a solid album.
@@mandymerlin1649 yea, it also was a much bigger album than Adele's 19 from that same year as her song 'Mercy' was everywhere. Adele wasn't a bad pick for the award that year but I honestly thought Duffy would win it because it seemed like they were priming her to pick up the ball from Amy Winehouse. Amy was personally floundering in the late 00s and quickly becoming more famous for scandal than music so they were looking for the next big British songstress. But then Duffy disappeared and Adele moved up.
No one cares about Jonas Brothers though
Agree. Adele is overrated.
Apparently the reason Duffy vanished was because she got kidnapped and... other traumatic things happened. So she's off the hook... I hope she has a Brendan Fraser comeback story eventually.
10:55 As a Brazillian hearing you call Tom Jobim a nobody just hurts my soul.
triste mesmo... esse canal tem um conteúdo legal pra música *popular* americana mas caaaara ele tem uns pontos cegos bem fodas. Antônio Carlos Jobim é renomado lá fora, fácil o artista brasileiro mais influente na música estadunidense... só que ele faz Jazz, e eu não acho que Jazz é um ponto forte do Alfo Media. sei lá, é bem claro que ele gosta muito dos artistas que ele comenta, mas falta um pouco de pesquisa sobre o assunto que ele tá comentando.
reforçando meu ponto, ele comentou que Esperanza Spalding foi a única artista de Jazz a ganhar o prêmio best new artist, mesmo logo depois ele mencionando a vitória de Norah Jones e Amy Winehouse em seus respectivos anos. meio contraditório, não?
The fact that you have never heard of Joss Stone is so wild to me. She helped prime the market for artists like Adele and Amy Winehouse.
Absolutely!!!!! I was just thinking this…Joss Stone was every where 04’-07
Yeah , Joss is so underrated
One of the best voices in pop music. The voice of this woman in unreal. Criminally underrated.
Exactly!!!!! Joss was once considered “The Princess of soul”, her talent is out of this world.
Also she’s a great actress as well, look at her role in the Tudors
Im swiftie but Amy really deserve it, she is a soul legend, Taylors debut was so weeck
We love n honest Swiftie.
Agreed her debut is her least best work Amy 100% deserved it
Nah, it wasn’t weak, and her career really shows she definitely deserved it over Amy. No shade to Amy, she was wonderful. But…
@@jeremyhill727 well honestly speaking, if Amy was alive I believe she would have a career similar or way better than Adele. Taylor wouldnt be a bad fit for the award, but Amy deserved it.
Amy sure deserved it. But please stop with the debut hatred.
I'm shocked by the amount of artists you don't know. I'm not exaggerating, I barely leave the underside of my rock, and I knew more of these nominees. I'm not saying you need to love them all, but you should familiarize yourself with everyone you're talking about if you're going to compare them, at least. And also, as someone who has a music channel and is in theory interested in music, are you not at all curious about them?
He is ignorant and uneducated
He’s a Radiohead superfan so, this is expected lmfao
Y’all mad bout random ass artists that don’t even crack 100k monthly listeners on Spotify being unheard of lol
@@youngthug5889 nah, it seems like he's more mad about someone who has a popular channel about music, not taking a small snippet of time to learn about or acknowledge an artist just because they're not mainstream.
I know I’m shocked
Esperanza Spalding, Jazmine Sullivan and Jill Scott are waaaaay better and more relevant than you're giving them credit for.
Yes!! I saw him skip over Jill Scott and went, “NANI??”
Exactly. The disrespect
It's an 11 minute video, going over 22 artists plus mentioning other artists in each year?
@@elijahjones7827 truly, a botched video on his part
I came across the video as a recommendation. Watched it. A little disappointed that you only know "mainstream" artists of color. Jill Scott, H.E.R and Jazzmine Sullivan are forces in the world of RnB. Heather Hadley is no slouch either, being a Tony award winner and phenomenal singer. If you make more videos like this, I would suggest listening to the other nominees and research their influence outside of what you know.
The fact that Lady Gaga was not even nominated for Best New Artist when she ruled the late 2000’s and early 2010’s😭she’s far too talented for them Grammys
They had to change the rule the year after they realized that they could not nominate her due to a rule technicality. Iconic me thinks
That same "nobody" you just called released one of the best projects of this year (Heaux Tales) and is a frontrunner in many album of the year nomination predictions for 2022 grammys, literally won album of the year at the BET awards, and is currently the most acclaimed r&b album since possibly Ctrl by SZA. you better put some respect on Jazmine Sullivan's name next time!
right. like my soul was hurt by that comment. that woman wrote my childhood
She Won The Grammy Too 💪🏾💪🏾
I know that struck me to my core! Jasmine Sullivan…nobody?!!!!!!
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Esperanza Spalding is taught in History of Jazz courses for contemporary jazz. I think she is widely respected
But no one knows who she is anymore
@@PixarLogan Correction: YOU don't know who she is. Is Jazz, Black female Jazz in particular, even a genre of music you pay close attention to? I highly doubt it, Logan...
@@deviantmoore9744 most people don’t just look at the billboard top 100 or how many views she has. Not many compared to others like Adele or Drake or Ariana Grande
@@PixarLogan What are you even trying to say. What a fragmented argument.
People using the word "nobody" literally 😂. Doesn't mean you and someone else know someone doesn't make them well known compared to the artists mentioned. We get it they have a following but that doesn't mean they're well known/ popular.
Nobodies?! Astrud Gilberto and Antonio Carlos Jobim? Mad disrespect for Brazilian music
Macklemore is unfairly hated in my opinion. It's not his fault he won lol. The album was pretty fun and had some great songs.
but was it better than kendrick’s tho?
@@roms9553 Of course it wasn't. The point is that it's not Macklemore's fault he won. People should hate the grammy's for their terrible decisions rather than macklemore
His album was mediocre just like him. Take away the expensive production and only read his lyrics. They don't stack up to all the other rappers nominated.
@@michaelmarsh3056 yeah cuz music is only about lyrics, right?
@@chagrin6919 That's not what I said at all, don't blame me for your stupidity.
The disrespect and lack of musical knowledge in this video is ridiculous. On what planet is Jazmine Sullivan a nobody? She literally just performed at the Superbowl. Also you don't know who Jill Scott, Brad Paisely, or The Jonas Brothers are? How do you run a music channel?
Who tf is jasmine sullivan😂
@@ngolokante765 no one asked u
@@toebag4286 who are they though?😂
I think you're taking this way too seriously lmao
@@ngolokante765 look up pick up your feelings by jazmine. she’s a vocal beast. trust me she’s great!!
As much as I agree with your opinion about Alessia Cara, even though I personally enjoy her music, but the disrespect she got for winning that award was completely unnecessary
Yeah I think that's the reason why she don't get a lot a radio play in America. She's gets alot of play in Canada tho of course. But the hate train behind her that year winning that Grammy was so much for her she shut down all of her social media for three years, people even forgot bout her real quicky. I tell ppl I listen to her, and ppl response would be like, "oh yeah what happened to her?" "I thought she stop doing music?" "Or I thought she was dead?" 🤦🏾♂️ She's so underrated and deserves so much respect and more attention. Her new album is So goood!🔥 Go stream, "In The Meantime" EVERYONE!
Fun fact: Esperanza Spalding isn't the only jazz musician to win the Best New Artist Grammy. I know where you got this information from. It's from Wikipedia, isn't it? I also read that sentence where it said "Of all the winners, only one (Esperanza Spalding) has been a jazz artist." The source of that claim is from a now defunct entertainment news website who somehow made a lazy false claim. But, no actually, Spalding wasn't the first and only jazz musician to win the award.
The first Best New Artist Grammy was awarded to Bobby Darin in 1960. Darin made two albums before the award, one is for his rock and roll music and the second one is for adult standard a la Frank Sinatra jazz. Darin was the first jazz artist to win Best New Artist. Then in 1962, Peter Nero, a jazz pianist won the same award. He is also a jazz musician.
In 2003, Norah Jones won Best New Artist. Isn't she jazz? You even mentioned her in this video. In 2008 Amy Winehouse won the award too, though she won it for her Back to Black record which is essentially soul and rhythm and blues, but she is considered to be a jazz musician. Her 2003 album Frank is jazz.
So no, Esperanza Spalding is not the only jazz musician to win Best New Artist. I hope someone is going to fix that sentence in the Wikipedia article so no one else is going to be misinformed.
I think he just meant in the era he was ranking from (2000-2020)
@@joelatkin1214 Norah Jones, 2003
Amy Winehouse, 2008
@@daveteves oh yeah sorry I only read half your comment
@@daveteves They weren't classified as "Jazz." They won in the pop field.
@@KNightRider504 They were jazz artists who won the Grammy's Best New Artist award. The point is, Esperanza Spalding isn't the only jazz artist to win Best New Artist as he falsely claimed with his "fun fact".
”i have friends that are jazz musicians” and then calling Jobim and Gilberto some nobodies... is it the musical equivalent of ”i have black friends” and then proceeds to be racist ? I mean this list is biased af, i didn’t learned a thing except the musical tastes of that guy
Facts I was expecting better from him severely disappointed
You expecting something other than the musical tastes of the person making the list about music? No list can be objectively right they are all going to reflect the person making it
@@Pootisbird01 Bro calling Jobim and Gilberto nobodies shouldn't been something based on taste. It's literally objectively wrong
@@nibyafternight1983 They are nobodies to an American or general English-speaking audience, I’m sure they were the cream of the crop of Brazilian music in the 50’s but very few people outside of those countries or cultures know them
@@Pootisbird01 i won't even bother to elaborate on how this is wrong..
the way Dua Lipa broke the best new artist curse.. cause every artist that won best new artist i think after Adele became so irrelevant
Gross
I'm sorry but it's too early to say if Dua will break the curse, we'll have to wait a few years for that
Asia Gandy - isn’t Billie still poppin tho? Not arguing but she’s still doing numbers and is pretty popular
@@Spielmaldingens wait for what? she already broke the curse and made a way better album than her debut, she has multiple hits with Futur Nostalgia and another Grammy.
@@thearabicmusicland Why is it so hard for you to understand that it's still to early to know for sure
I’d disagree with the assessment of Esperanza’s career. I’m a jazz musician and in my experience at least, she is still known and respected in that sphere. She’ll probably never have like big pop success, but some of her work in more recent times has still been critically well received, she still plays major jazz festivals with high billing, and you occasionally see some small mainstream media coverage of her work. I’d say she’s had a fairly typical level of career success for someone who’s “famous” specifically by the standards of the modern day jazz world.
Thank you.. Contemporary jazz has it's own following.. And she's very well known among the jazz circuit.
10:54 he really did call fucking Tom Jobim a nobody, damn
I cant 🤦♂️
As an American, I have no clue who that guy is. I heard he's some really famous brazilian musician, but let's be honest, no one was going to win against the beatles.
@@chromberries7329 i agree, but just because the beatles were the right and obvious winners that doesnt mean the competition, specifically tom jobim, was weak
@@chromberries7329 Tom Jobim was easily one of the most influential artists of all time in the field of Jazz and specially Bossa Nova. sure he didn't have the pop appeal of The Beatles but he did make a ton of noise in his time, even collaborating with Frank Sinatra and Stan Getz at one point. The Girl from Ipanema is still one of the most remarkable songs of all time, even outside of Brazil!
@@chromberries7329 Yeah, but doesn't make him "some nobodies" though. The Beatles deserved to win, no doubt, but Jobim is and was a big deal.
You a clown for skipping over Jazmine Sullivan and Jill Scott like that.
I LOVEEEEEE JILL SCOTT
I mean... at the end of the day it’s just his opinion
Jazmine Sullivan is amazing!!
@@ronin2841 but he did basically call him nobodies. Which is not an opinion it’s just not true
@@ronin2841 Calling someone a nobody isn’t an opinion. He basically just said that they’re not artists simply because they didn’t win a fake gold Grammy
I don't think Macklemore was a victim of the Grammy curse. He was getting a lotta unnecessary hate and he just..............retired.
Also, megan thee stallion already had industry support, so her winning wasn't surprising at all, guess Phoebe Bridgers deserved it.
Seeing the amount of awards Megan swept.. as much as I think she’s a talented rapper (but I don’t like her music) I felt odd watching her sweep those awards when SAVAGE got song of the year or some shit
@@firstlast9846 same here, she must be talented but I don't like her stuff. He winning 'best new artist' isn't a problem, but savage was definitely not the rap song of the year.
Akarsh Singh - oh yeah that was the award I was thinking of - - Savage was in no way rap song of the year
Macklemore got bullied out of the industry. Feel bad for him, he probably wishes he didn't win those awards, his career probably would've gone better with just the nominations because he wouldn't have been so despised by everyone.
i wonder if elton john hit anybody since phoebe didn’t get the award
Imagine calling jobim a nobody like he isn't one of the greatest latin musician to ever exist
Tell me. Beatles are tough competition to be fair, but Jobim is a master of the craft.
He is brazilian, so he is great
Gringos ish, they think usa is the only place with music 😂
To be fair, he isn't Latin. I've never heard of her/him and he hasn't
To be fair, he isn't Latin. I've never heard of her/him and he hasn't
Putting evanescence one of the lowest just because 50 cent didn't win is kinda unfair
They’re also pumping out quality music all these years later.
Right? 50 Cent fell off after the release of Get Rich or Die trying
Oh my gosh right!? I was thinking the same thing, 50 Cent fell right off the map after he won that. Whereas Evanescence changed music so much and own an entire era of music
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak He basically fell of the mainstream radar after like 2009, or maybe even earlier, in my opinion, you just don't hear people gush about him and wait for what comes next from him as they would for someone like Jay-Z or Kayne.
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak I can’t even remember a hit 50 cent song in the past decade
Taylor not winning best new artist was probably the best thing for her career. And Carrie won the previous year so awarding BNA to another country act wouldn’t be a good look.
*"Adele was the most clear-cut winner in the history of the Grammys."*
-Someone who has obviously never listened to Year 3000 by the Jonas Brothers
Also Duffy was a white British woman who also made sixties inspired R&B and her album came out before Adele's. You know also the reason why it wasn't the most clear-cut winner and this dude is looking back at hindsight being 20-20? Because everybody knows that Adele did not have any radio play in the United States in 2009. Jazmine Sullivan and Duffy actually did have hits in 2009 in the US. This dude is doing some major historical revision because Adele actually was the upset winner. Adele was the nobody who won against the Stars.
Jonas Brothers sort of dropped off in the 2010’s with the exception of their comeback recently. Adele was a nobody when she won her Grammy and became the biggest artist in the world a couple years later
True some people think Adele was popular since day one, but no she started in 2007 and didn't become popular till 2011.
@@thearabicmusicland She went Platinum 8 times in the UK and 3x in the US in 2008. What are you on about?
@O He mentions her at 10:44
You really need to check out what Esperanza Spalding has been doing in the last 5 years. It’s some of the most inventive music, especially her 2016 album was one of the best of that year.
I’m just gonna act like you didn’t say Jill Scott wasn’t mentionable. Who Is Jill Scott is a classic
I appreciate your effort into making this video but calling some of the artist like Adele or The Beatles won ''against some nobodies'' is shady af and it shouldnt have place in the music and these musicians wouldnt be happy about that too
Yea. God help us if award shows awarded people only based on popularity. And whats wrong with being a "nobody"? They still make music for people who hear it.
I kinda agree with you but I wouldn't say shady is the right word for it
It was just plainly disrespectful, especially since some artists who were in the running just don’t have him as a demographic and/or are bigger in the international market
You should probably take a page out of Todd in the shadows, diamond axe Studios or literally every other music channel on TH-cam some books and listen to music that you don't have any knowledge of before you make a video. Calling Jazmine Sullivan and Duffy nobody's is probably the silliest nothing you have said rivaling calling Paula Abdul semi-famous. People who actually know about music know that Duffy did everything Adele did a year prior. And like Duffy you didn't even look up who Joss Stone was newsflash dude Adele is only the fourth iteration of white British singer who make sixties inspired RnB.
Joss Stone,Amy Winehouse and Duffy walked so Adele could run.
Right? Jazmine Sullivan is very well known among r&b listeners and especially fans of neo soul
@@momo7989 this dude is doing some historical revisionism because and 2009 it was Adele the nobody who won against the Stars. Nobody expected Adele to win because Duffy actually had a hit with Mercy Chasing Pavements was not a hit in the US. As well I bust the windows out your car also was a throwback R&B Jam. So Adele was actually the one with a retro R&B found that nobody heard of that one against the two other retro R&B artist who people actually did know
@@Chelaxim yup. Her winning was actually a shock to a lot of people. Now I personally love listening to British music so I had her chasing payments but her winning over Duffy who was more popular at the time in both the US and in the UK made no sense. And Jasmine Sullivan again is very well known in the R&B and neo soul scene so it's kind of clear that he's using a modern-day perspective on his pics but also that he hasn't listened to the albums or the songs that these artists produced.
Omg I love Todd. He generally keeps it real while being somewhat respectful lol
Adele was less recognizable back in 2009. Amy's death made her famous
The fact that you said you don't have anything to say about Jill Scott when she Foster Shelby Lynn makes no sense I don't like Brad Paisley but it's well known that he's actually pretty popular in country but Jill Scott is considered a genius in the R&B and neo soul genre. She's a singer songwriter and poetress.. Who's songs and albums are heavily played. Her verzuz was one of the most talked about as well.
While I like dua lipa you saying she's the real stand out compared to ChloexHalle and HER, who plays her own instruments, is laughable.
I'm also not seeing what's special about Billie Eilish, Black Pumas, Lil Nas X, Lizzo and Yola are better performers.
He won't go is vastly underrated. I agree...but to say Adele went up against nobody's just because you don't know them is really disingenuous. Duffy it literally is expired by the exact same music that adale and Amy winehouse were inspired by. That would be 60s black soul music. Duffy's also pretty well known in the UK. Jazmine Sullivan is extremely well known among R&B and neo soul singers... She's also a singer-songwriter and has some of the best R&B albums that have been put out in the past decade. I'm not a fan of the Jonas Brothers but to say that they weren't popular and still aren't popular is a lie even one of the brothers had a huge solo career. And Lady antebellum again one of those groups with a terrible name but they actually have some good music and are quite popular in the country scene. So again I think some of your bias or you not knowing all the artists or their albums is kind of creating a bias that you yourself can't get from under.
I don't really know what to say to that as well. He dismissed Jill Scott!
Apple taste good
@@MrWildeguy it's clear he doesn't have the wide range of knowledge of music.. Especially since he claims to love hip-hop. If you love hiphop, you know Jill Scott.
A Jazz Musician winning over Bieber & Drake is one best decisions the Grammys ever made
I know music is subjective but placing Megan Thee Stallion over Christina Aguilera and Alicia Keys is criminal. Absolutely criminal. I say it again. Criminal
And I repeat with you: CRIMINAL
agreed! CRIMINAL!
Criminal
Yeah! I almost fell off my chair!! Christina is brilliant in my book.
Criminal
Not really a fan of Meghan Trainor either, but I did not expect her to get ripped on so harshly, that made me laugh. Also, since when does Alfo media care about chord progressions?
Not a fan either, but that was unfairly harsh imo
'Hating' her and saying she's 'untalented' is just going too far. Her lyrics are boring and repetitive, but other than that, I think she's decent at what she does: making generic bubblegum pop.
I have seen her on festivals and she can effortlessly put a 30 min set on. She plays multiple instruments too. She makes generic music because that's what she wants to do, but she does still have talent
Most of your top 5 is difficult to judge since they haven't had a chance to get washed up, like you said. 2000-2016 would've been a better period to consider and then a separate "looking forward" ranking for the rest. Bonny Bear's my fave here, hands down
@29. Sankalp Pandey 7B no, it's Teddy Bear (Justin Bearnon)
Isn't Billie Eilish in her flop era already? I heard her new music got a lot of negative critics.
@@manryhood I think her new music is amazing, it’s not leaning into pop however, instead it’s going for a more alternative route which is why it’s “flopping” among the pop charts.
@@manryhood Well, her album got a widespraid acclaim just now I guess...
That title track is quite a internet sensation by now
@@shiningnightmare5616 Is it Happier Than Ever. I LOVE that song.
How tf is “fun” better than Frank ocean. Even if he stopped making music now, he’d still be a legendary figure in music for decades to come
"How is FUN better than Frank Ocean?"
- makes a statement that can't be proven -
The main thing for me is that fun wasn't really "new" they just had some hits that year
I don’t even know who frank ocean
@@Josama0214 are you living under a rock
I think if Fun continued to make music they would be massive stars. I mean just look at Jack Antonoff‘s career
Lady Gaga never being nominated in this category seems like a criminal act considering the cultural shift she caused
Facts
That was the rule at the time though. She was also nominated the year before for a Grammy. They changed the rule afterwards.
You absolutely need to do a video on Megan Trainor’s awful discography
That would be pure torture lol
Nah, I'd rather not be reminded more of how awful her music is. This segment was enough.
I don’t listen to it, why’s it so bad?
@@marieremelie6716 i don't think is THAT bad it is just only generic pop
@@javiersanchezvelasco3040 when trying to make pop music, it's an unwritten rule that you HAVE TO put your own twist to it
Megan Trainor has not done that, ever.
Amy is an absolute legend. Two albums and she made a permanent mark on the music industry and set the record for most Grammy wins in one night only to be tied with Adele and Beyoncé years down the road. Her legacy is insane
Pls don’t hate on Esperanza , she’s such a talented artist
Didn't he call her one of the most talented people on the list?
@@maxresdefault_ Yup.
The Beatles clearly deserved their win in 1965, but come on, Petula Clark wasn't a nobody. She shouldn't have been in that category, having already been an international recording star for years - just not in America until "Downtown" hit in '65.
I'm by no means a Meghan Trainor fan but isn't the music critic world dunking on her all the time getting kind of old? I haven't thought about her (except for when people talk about how much they hate her) in like 6 years
Her music is awful so the dunking is justified I guess
It's funny how they talk about her Corporation being basic when her music is inspired by the 1950s like have y'all heard music from the 1950s? That's like somebody making an 80s inspired album then complaining about all the sympathizers and saxophones
I honestly think she is overhated, like the girl is not the best pop star to ever exist, and some of her her lyrics are cringy but she is not that bad and in my opinion still better than many other untalanted pop stars.
imo No is a decent song but yeah the rest of her big hits are horrible
she’s a decent vocalist imo but most of her singles are very forgettable to me
Christina deserved because she could SING. She was a star and while Britney might have been more successful, Christina was definitely still in the picture, well known and had a god given talented voice. Britney was a great dancer and performer but the Grammy's were not about performances. She was an average singer on a good day.
Also, xtina was also an incredible dancer, I dont know why nobody talk abou that, in dirty she dance like Dammm
Also this award is about artistry! Not about "star power" or success. So those factors aren't even relevant. Now I love me some Britney and she's a great dancer with a lot of bops but Christina has always been the superior artist in terms of versatility, musicianship, production, writing, messages, VOCALS etc. Her discography isn't just dance pop. Christina has actual substance that varies from supporting LGBTQ rights before it was a trend to singing about domestic abuse to powerful feminist anthems and self-acceptance. Throughout her career she's healed many people with her music. She's a literal life-saver and that is the biggest accomplishment a musician can achieve. Christina is a real artist and a real live singer, who is praised by the likes of Whitney Houston, Cher, Etta James and Pattie Labelle to be one of the best and who is cited by countless pop girls today as a major influence like Ariana Grande, Dua Lipa, Ava Max, Demi Lovato, Little Mix etc. This particular award went, deservingly, for the one with more talent and artistry, not for the one with more popularity. And that should always be the case.
Agree! Xtina is a QUEEN!!!
@@gabrielacanette5485 so true, Xtina can move hard 😍😍
@@jinx-1 girl they both were doing teen pop at this point wym😭😭
W for Dua Lipa being so high, she has actually made the radio so fun again
The beatles "went up against some nobodies" because you don't know world music. Astrud gilberto and Antonio Carlos jobim are two super talented, super famous Brazilian artists but i guess not even cultural Americans break the self absorbed bubble. They wrote the girl from ipanema which is one of the most famous songs worldwide.
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That's not what he said. He said "the Beatles went up against some nobodies". "just" would imply exclusivity, what he said was that some of the other ones were nobodies. Maybe try to not attribute the worst of intentions to people
@@DenKulesteSomFins I corrected my comment but i still think that wasn't his intent because of the context of the statement. I interpreted it has him saying that the beatles, like adele, did not face relevant competition. I'm only saying i disagree.
@@beatrizgaspar6697 Even the comment on Adele's win was inaccurate tbh, like how the fuck are The Jonas Brothers or Duffy nobodies lmao.
@@beatrizgaspar6697 no, you're not saying "I disagree", you're saying "you don't know world music". There's a difference between calling someone ignorant and saying you disagree with them. And you're still misinterpreting him, he said SOME nobodies, not ONLY nobodies.
@@lucasgoncalves7774 he's saying Adele's the clear cut winner. Which she 100% percent is.
after the win, Xtina raked more hits, grammys, and cultural moments (e.g. dirrty/beautiful, back to basic, its a mans world performance)
What?! Xtina fell of after 2006 lmao.
I have to massively disagree with Esperanza Spalding. That might have been the only time the Grammys got it right. Not only has she has won multiple Grammys since for her albums and arrangements; she's easily the most technically skilled musician through and through on the list. Granted she's not mainstream, but she's not trying to be - but in the jazz world she is a literal legend. And your jazz musician friends not knowing her is embarrassing for them.
Embarrassing asf…like who are these “jazz friends” lmao
Mariah Carey is the best of the best new artist (at least among the female artists). She could sing her ass off (and she still can! even if it's not as good as in the 90s), she can write, she did great remixes and she went on to become the 90's artist of the decade. She also includes Lord in her music. She is the inspiration. Of course, you have to look past the diva-ish behaviors and some shady stuffs she puts on these days. She does that just for fun. She is actually a nice person. She started from scratch and she was here to stay and she is a living legend now.
Female or male, Mariah actually was the most deserving winner of the best new artist award in the Grammys history
@@TheLevantine Deserving yes but more deserving than The Beatles ? Nah
@@glenwarne7518 she's diff more deserving than the boreatles
@@TheLevantine lol no
@@glenwarne7518 to everyone his opinion
Great list. Recency bias is a problem, it would be very interesting if you make a remake of this video in maybe 10 years from now, or a ranking from the 80's or the 90's, where the recency bias wouldn't be a problem. Great video.
You sure about that great video stance?
I heavily disagree with yout dislike of fun. They put out two iconic albums and didnt need anything else to live in the light of pop music greatness for decades. They achieved what they wanted to and dipped afterwards, respect
Sam Smith still has an career, various hits after their BNA wins, Smith has sold over 30 Million copies of album WW, how is that kind of “fell off”
Love Goes has sold over 4.5M WW…
Cool video, just a sidenote: you said The Beatles won against some nobodies and i beg to differ. I highly recommend you to listen to António Carlos Jobim (or Tom Jobim) also known as the father of bossa nova. He's a super great composer and songwriter and made albums with Frank Sinatra and Stan Getz which you for sure know about. I personally recommend the album The Wonderful World of Antonio Carlos Jobim to get a taste of his music prowess
I've never heard anyone describe Alicia Keys' career so accurately
Uh maybe this just an issue I have with your rating criteria, but I think your placement of Esperanza Spalding is just objectively wrong. Has she gone on to become some huge popstar? No, but I don't think anyone expects a jazz musician to do that. She has become one of the most successful, influential, and respected musicians in contemporary jazz, and her musicianship has not stopped evolving since she won that award. Obviously fuck the grammys, but considering the lack of commercial appeal that modern jazz has, Esperanza's success certainly earns her the award.
Adele only seems like a clear cut winner now, after we know she became a best selling artist. But at the time, Duffy was considered as the next Amy Winehouse in terms of talent and success, with bigger sales and hits than Adele. Lady A, was also quite popular in the country music world. And they became even bigger after Need You Now, which won Song and Record of the Year 2 years later. Not to mention The Jonas Brothers was the thing back then. So, no, Adele was NOT the clear choice.
BUT, I agree Adele is #1 on list, because they could've chosen one of the other more popular (at the time) nominees. Instead, they somehow managed to give the awards to someone who eventually became one of the biggest selling artists of the century. That's the definition of the best decision ever.
Emily's D-Evolution by Esperanza Spaulding is definitely worth the time.
Jill Scott and John Legend are contemporaries as are him and Alicia. It seems that Jill chose to stay in a certain musical direction and it led her career in a different path than theirs.
Joss Stone in a lot of ways made the way for Duffy, Adele, and Amy. So it's interesting for Joss not to get credit because she wasn't as commercially successful as Amy and Adele.
I'm finding it ironic that TJB and Lady A are being called nobodies. The Jonas Brothers are still relatively popular in their adult years and Lady A is now a lauded country act that was so respected that they changed their name.
Jazmine is finally getting the mainstream recognition she deserves. It's slow but she's getting national anthem placements, just won her first Grammy on television and has had critically acclaimed projects the last couple years.
Heather Headley is a Broadway icon and deserves her respect. I think the project she was nominated for was beautiful. "In My Mind" is a great song and she sings it like no other.
Joss and Jill got the short end of the stick due to neo-soul coming out of relevancy in the mid 00s. Unlike Alicia and John who were able to adapt due to their input on the music, Joss couldn't maintain a hold due to her age and the American audience not connecting as well to her, and Jill thankfully pivoted.
Amy and Adele were just as soulful as Joss, the resources just weren't available for Joss in the same way. I wouldn't say she's more gifted than Amy but it's not a fair comparison.
To jazz being honored through Norah and Esperanza is also beautiful. CxH are snubbed a lot and deserved to be recognized. I hope we see that happening for them.
HER did end up getting Song of the Year last year so I argue it made up for the snub two years ago.
Him: Im not gonna be biased
Also him: gives us a whole essay and persuasive speech on how bad meghan trainor is
I mean Megan Trainor is kinda garbage so i don't think he is biased
@@glenwarne7518 sir that's what biased is "I don't like them so I'll put them at the bottom"
@@glenwarne7518 you don't think he is biased is because u have the same opinion
Sorry to burst your bubble but Meghan Trainor is objectively bad go to rateyourmusic or smth(an objective rating site) and try to find a highly rated album or single. I'm not saying that you cant like Meghan Trainor but he definitely isn't being biased.
I remember Jonas Brothers fans were so angry at the GRAMMYS when Adele won and the JB fans call her a nobody lol and years later 21 was born and Adele became a LEGEND and Jonas Brothers split lol
Despite the timing Alessia Cara was chosen to be given her award, she still is an amazing artist with insane potential who truly deserves the recognition and who definitely does not deserve the ridiculous amount of backlash she received for winning something she had no control of, yet still earned.
She didnt deserved it
I’m a huge fan of hers and I think she’s criminally underrated (probably one of the most slept on this generation). In my opinion, she has the best voice of the 2010’s and has never put out a bad song. With that being said, by definition, Khalid or Uzi probably should’ve won it. On one hand, my biased hand, I’m extremely happy with the decision because she’s one of my favorite singers of this generation, especially being someone who doesn’t give a flying fuck about modern pop music, but on the other, I’m not blind to the truth.
I just love how two talented women named Amy made this list. Amy Lee and Amy Winehouse. Such beautiful human beings with their own unique musical styles.
Bassist here, Esperanza Spalding is regarded as one of the best female bassists, and is still talked about here and there (in the bass/jazz community that is)
Exactly
Heavily respected
I’m a bassist and I have never heard of this lady
@@borgnut7243 How long have you been playing bass
@@LageTH-cam I’m only 14 but a few years
Adele as the clear winner against The Jonas Brothers and Duffy? as a huge Adele fan, I'm sorry but NOOO, Adele was almost a nobody in the US in 2008/2009. She was not half popular as Duffy or the Jonas Brothers, and that's what makes her win the most accurate best new artist win the Grammys ever had, it's like they predicted she will be one of the most influential artists of the following decade.
It's relaxing to see someone talk about pop music from a respectful PoV without snobbish behavior. I've never seen anyone so graceful towards Maroon 5 - though I love how even you draw the line at Meghan Trainor.
I almost got choked up at seeing all those classic names.
BTW check out Joss Stone if you haven't, especially her stint in Superheavy.
I might be in the minority here but I really wish the Black Pumas had won, I love the soulful and Motown reminiscent music that they're making!
Me too, not only that but their album was beautiful
Same here! I’ll admit the star power of Megan was pretty unbeatable for that award. But they’re an act that I really hope stick around for a while
Me too. Really liked thier album
I love Taylor, but I am glad Amy Winehouse won that year especially because Taylor’s first album is significantly worse than her main breakthrough album Fearless. Some of the songs off of the debut were huge for country songs so I guess I understand why she was nominated. P.S I don’t think Macklemore and Ryan Lewis are that bad… like Meghan Trainer is worse
Yeah but how good an artist is isn't the only factor he uses.
Like, Macklemore won against James Blake, Ed Sheeran, Kacey Musgraves and Kendrick Lamar. Artists that are far better (or commercially successful), and still relevant to this day, unlike Macklemore.
Meghan Trainor sucks but her fellow nominees weren't that special, so it isn't as egregious as macklemore
Duffy was LITERALLY ABUSED by this industry. She will always be a legend and a warrior in mind. Her voice is iconic.
Did this guy just said that Tom Jobim, the man who made girl from ipanema, the most popular song of all time and one the greatest musician to ever live was a NOBODY???
Boy, your eurocentrism is showing, go educate yourself
It’s devastating how he said that.
Hearing people complain about stale chord progressions will never get old to me. As a jazz pianist, chords are never the problem with a song. Some of the most critically acclaimed songs use the same chord progressions as Meghan trainor. More complex doesn’t inherently mean better
Amen. This needed to be said badly. Meghan’s issue lies not with the progressions but with her problematic song messages, and the fact that doo-wop is a genre that requires a LOT of soul, contrary to what one may think (Just like at the Ronettes, that is how you do it y’all) and she takes this genre and makes it into a pop derivative that feels inauthentic and lost in the machine. Meghan is a decent singer, but any of her redeeming qualities are lost in the auto tune and over-production.
the ignorance jumped out on this one lmao
Very suprised justin or drake never won best new artist would have thought they both had it in the bag
I could see Justin but Drake i dunno hes never been intresting
both suck musically but anyway. i know dustbin can sing and can play instruments but he doesn't have artistry. he only hops on trends. Esperald deserved the award.
@@auandaily I get what you are saying but the grammys usually base it on popularity
Christina Aguilera is the VOICE of our generation!!
Also your videos needs space between ranks and should also put contenders and the year. Video is all over the place my dude
The entire album some nights, and their previous album, aim and ignite, are both masterpieces. If they kept going together they wouldn’t have been considered a BNA curse artist.
Exactly. I still want them to get back together and make some again
I enjoyed this video. Might as well do a review of all the other big categories (ROTY, SOTY, AOTY) from the Grammys during the ‘00-‘10 years.
Heyo the esperanza spalding hate is ridiculous:(
The fact that Bon Iver was picked over Nicki Minaj haunts me to this day because…. how?
Because Bon Iver is better
@@geezus4418 said absolutely no one ever, what hits does he actually have?
@@mikeevans1254 hits don’t determine if a artist is good. Quality matters. Numbers don’t mean shit
@@geezus4418 And compared to him Nickis quality clears him instantly alongside impact and numbers which he has neither so now what? just say you’re misogynistic and racist and go
@@mikeevans1254 bro what ☠️💀
Hey Alfo, would you want to make a video talking about what you think makes a good skit in an album? 🤔 Or just talking about the concept in general. I love skits because they are cute little details that add to the world of the album and that weren't necessary. The artist put them there very intentionally. But I feel like some people dislike them because when they listen to an album regularly they want the songs not an artistic statement.
Good video btw😅 This isn't really relevant to the grammys, but I thought I'd mention it.
It's weird how most american artists become world famous instantly when they blow up in the States, yet some just...don't. I am French, I am 25, and I seriously thought you were being ironical when you said Carrie Underwood is one of the record sellers of the century ! I swear I never heard of her
makes sense the genre she does is only popular in america and ireland apparently? i heard they like country music over there
so just say you don't listen to country music.
@@auandaily nobody listens to country music outside of the USA lol. most people have never heard of Johnny Cash or Dolly Parton.
Country music is privileged, it is only popular in the US.
@@thankuslay6766 it is kinda true until Taylor came into the scene but tbf she had some pop roots.
i’m gonna have to fully disagree with your placement of Esperanza Spalding, she may not have the pop/mainstream appeal of some of the other nominees that year sure but she remains a big presence in the jazz scene to this day. she does a lot of really amazing and inventive stuff and your jazz musician friends are running in the wrong circle if they aren’t keeping up with her work tbh
I literally think Christina had the vocals and critical acclaim
I definitely haven’t heard much of Meghan trainors music since all about that bass but to discredit her and call her music the worst thing on earth is harsh af. She writes songs for other artists and has made a name in doing that herself. Of course I get her debut music was not ground breaking but she didn’t just become famous out of nowhere. I’ve only recently seen what she’s accomplished due to TikTok’s but I wouldn’t automatically bash her that way.
Carrie Underwood is one of the best New Artists of the Year winner ever! They got it so right that year!
Your not wrong. The only one i saw that could’ve gotten that other than her was Chris Brown.
@@anthonyyoung5179 it definitely should have ben Chris Brown.
Okay but what’s the difference between all about that bass and wap that makes you hate Meghan Trainor so much?
Okay so reading the lyrics to “my future husband” and “wap” they LITERALLY say some of the same things...
@@vlogactionTV Meghan Trainor’s music isn’t as enjoyable to him as Megan Thee Stallion’s music
Nothing. The difference is that WAP is both profane and ended up political, so it's therefore "brilliant".
@@hiimaly4780 “bad messages in music are okay as long as I like them” okay
Just wanna say, I’m not a Meghan Trainor or Megan Thee Stallion fan. Just wanted to point out something that confused me.
I wish you put the year they won next to the artist's name in your rankings. You said it some times but I would have liked to see that.
I beg to differ but Christina Aguilera is the most deserving here!
You should rank the song/record and album of the year next!
10:57 Damn bro, you really called Tom Jobim a nobody? He's the biggest legend in brazilian music, like, the other ones are not even close, kind of dumb tbh
The fact that Ariana grande was never nominated for best new artist is so weird
Her debut as a singer wasn't that great.
Tha fact that you don't know Joss Stone makes your music taste one dimensional. She is a global singer and paved the way to singer like Amy, Adele and Natasha Benington
Dude really just called Jobim a nobody, huh?
I really admire how this video acknowledged your bias while also being (imo) pretty objective. Heartily agreed with most takes but totally understood your perspective for everything else.