Why Disney's New Galactic Starcruiser Hotel FLOPPED
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Disney's Current "Star Wars" Problem and Why It's Ruining Everything
Who would have thought Disney would still be struggling to fill their $3000 a night hotel experience? There's an underlying problem that has been showing itself through their projects for a while now and it's only going to keep getting worse unless they address it and reengineer this massive issue. It would be nice to see them change and everyone to be happy with what they're doing at the end of the day but don't hold your breath...
Disney's 'Star Wars' Problem and Why It's Hurting Them So Bad
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I think they ruin Star Wars by making it a company and treat it like a cash grab rather than a beatiful tragic story about Skywalkers.
Doesn’t even have to be about skywalkers if they just put in effort
True
It was always a company.
It’s always been a cash grab. What, you think the OT was made just for us only? No, it was made to make money. LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.
Only LEGO seems to be able to handle anything Star Wars that makes people happy.
Like imagine having movie accurate blasters but as laser tag weapons and being able to fight in different arenas based on the different eras of starwars. With era accurate clothing or if fighting droids they are animatronics
You can pretty much do that yourself, dude.
@@jocelyndeguise the whole point is that it would be something for the hotel 🏨 hence why I said it
Disney really dropped the ball with Galaxy’s edge by limiting the characters to be between episodes 8 and 9. The brilliance of the wizarding world is that you can feel like your actually visiting places in the movie. Batuu? Who wants to go there?
Seeing as this comment is 5 months old you should know by now that’s not the case. They have Mando, Boba, fennec, chopper, ahsoka and Hera in GE
@Niennub1977 yeah but the characters are just one piece if the puzzle, the location is arguably more important for immersion
@@Niennub1977 Yeah but, pretty much more after the initial opening because those characters were never planned to be there on opening day
Lead Architect: "So, what trilogy are you going to base the hotel off of? I loved the prequels as a kid."
Disney: Laughs in worst rated films
Bro yes like it could of been a venator or a nebulan because most Star Wars fans don’t really like the sequels
They cannot tell a good story because they’re sitting in their big fancy buildings without any connection to tue outer world. They won and have no new stories to tell
they should have made it for the ORIGINALS only
Legacy fans have the most disposible income. If Darth Vader were part of that experience, it would have had double the demand. Sequel trilogy has the LEAST fans of all Star Wars content.
The ones who actually spend the money love the prequels, kids may like the sequel but its their parents that pay for it, idk why Disney didn't thing about this
Your ideas with having multiple planets and iconic spots inside the park was perfect. That’s EXACTLY how it should be
Yeah, since Disney have so much money they gained from their money sla- trees. At least should so miniature of those planets and rooms with balanced decoration between eras...
But how could they fit that many in there and make something that the fandom would be satisfied with? I watched a series that, at one point, talked about what the imaginers had in mind when making the park. One of the reasons they made a new cannon planet was so that they could make the guests feel like their stories were overshadowed by people from the movies. Whether you like the new cannon land or not, I don't think cramming a bunch of small lands would be the solution.
@@evanv-qm8dgThey literally had the answer the entire time: The World Between Worlds. The fact that the world of between worlds acts like a central hub that allows you to both travel to any place and anytime in Star Wars would have been a gold mine for making this section of the park. Hop from anywhere from the prequels to the sequels to the original trilogy and anything in between and how with the miniature biomes. You can change them depending on what's popular or not. But you see the problem is the world between worlds was made by Dave flone, who literally in the stupidest thing. Only recently was made creative director of everything Star Wars when he should have been one of the main creative directors in the movies in the main franchise from the beginning based on his output and experience. And I'm not even a Dave faloni fan or fanboy, but it's completely obvious that if he was steering the shit for all three films and had other people writing and directing and producing it under his thumb, we would have had a completely different sequel trilogy. Same thing with this. This is probably what have been his go-to was. Let's make a world between worlds land that goes to different sections in Star Wars. It would have been perfect but Disney's going to Disney.
Here we are a year later, and Disney is STILL ignoring what their actual fans want, and creating shows & movies for their imaginary new fan base that simply doesn’t exist.
LMFAO. That's simply ridiculous. How do you think they are ignoring what their actual fans want? Seriously?
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Ummmm, listen to the vast majority of fans complain. Pretty simple really.
@@JohnDoe-zr8pc Oh, now I see the problem, you're just confused. No big deal.
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Yes, confused as to how you’re so moronic.
They actually tried to say it was a temporary endeavor? That’s such a blatant lie. Oh yeah… ya spent countless millions of dollars building it, the vehicle modifications, create branded merchandise, hired and trained staff… for it all to be a temporary endeavor… WRONG!!!
At 15:20 That’s exactly how I felt about the dang hotel rooms. It felt so out of place for a universal society that’s thousands of years old. Only a few places would look like that and it’s usually the planets that are very snobbish about their history.
Am I the only person who kind of wanted a more run-down hotel experience? Like - instead of some pristine hotel (which is nice), I would like something that resembles the Amos Eisley cantina or the room Padme stayed in on Coruscant in CW!
I suppose they had to think of the "who will pay us $6k on an impulse buy" crowd
I used to work at The Void that did the Star Wars 4D VR experience and it was amazing. Best part of the job was going through with "single riders". It was miles ahead of Galaxy's Edge, current VR headsets, all of it. I'll never forget feeling the actual heat of Mustafar's lava, the vibration impact of blaster bolts hitting you, or the terror of Darth Vadar showing up and breaking the gun your holding in your hands. If you get a chance please do it. It's a one of a kind experience.
Didn’t that close down during Covid?
I agree. I was sad to see it go. Wish I could have done it a couple more times. We need more cool star wars experiences like this
@@MichaelJaeYT me too. I worked there before Covid and it was awesome. A lot of great people sadly lost their jobs when it was forced to shut down.
The void what now?
I went and I agree it was amazing. went with my co-workers at the time
Walt Disney's is just a bigger word for greed at this point.
Imo I think if they were so desperate to make everything canon they should have just have made the park set in the world between worlds which just takes you to certain rides and experiences from any movie
That would have been smart.
This. But you see the problem is that world between worlds was Dave flone's idea and for some reason they never allowed him on the main creative team until he not only knocked it out of the park with their TV show but then did it in live action and now they realized oh he would be a great person to steer all the lord and stories stuff. Fucking idiots. It's like hiring Christopher Nolan to write and direct your film and then have him not actually direct the film he wrote. WTF.
SIX THOUSAND for a two night stay? I could buy my own ship for that!
Ya, but who’s gonna fly it kid? You?
@@JohnDoe-zr8pc You bet I could! I'm not such a bad pilot myself!
@@stormwulf117 God I love the OT. lol.
This is the best comment I’ve read in a long time…
I honestly dont understand how hard it is for a big cooperation with the money & pull such as Disney to have a dedicated studio/team for Star Wars. Its my biggest pet peeve with these cooperations that rely on old out dated minds to conjure up a story trajectory for a series that has an enormous fanbase thats more literate than they are about literally anything franchise related. One would think they’d find more profit in making quality storylines that feed both the originals and new series alike to not only make successful projects but have the fans literally throwing their money at them, as much as the cash cows they already are.
It's not an old way of thinking. It's the new. They aren't just making star wars. They are pushing a politcal agenda. That's why they don't care. The left destroys everything it touches. Including star wars.
10:00 this is perhaps the largest problem with Disney Star Wars. They refuse to make alien looking planets. They refuse to make alien lead characters. They refuse to take Star Wars off of planet Earth.
So my aunt took me to do the vr 4d experience and it was actually one of the coolest things it really did feel like Star Wars and I never understood why they just didn't do more stuff like that because I loved it.
They should've just made a space station themed Star Wars hotel, ditch the fake space cruise approach entirely & lowered the price tremendously (like $300-$500/night). Maybe give the kids some things to do around the resort, like a themed pool area, a playground & some optional stuff like the lightsaber training included for hotel guests. Then it would've had potential to last. People can have people visit them in the hotel, you can do other theme parks & attractions - like literally any hotel.
This tops Superstar Limo as far as Disney's failed attractions go.
The space station idea was in Futureworld (1976) -- the sequel to Westworld.
the $6,000 price tag for a family week end get away MIGHT have had something to do with it...$600 maybe,,,,but Disney is out of rabid a$$ minds if they think $6,000,,,
The truth is, Star Wars is dead as long as the "sequels" are considered canon by Disney. Killing the "sequels" is necessary to save Star Wars, but not sufficient. Then they have to replace the "sequels" with actual sequels which fans actually like, even if it will likely take time for the real sequels to make box office money. Don't worry, most of the cash comes from the merchandise, which alone will enable actual sequels to outsell the "sequels."
Disney doesn't understand how to make Star Wars without politics It's supposed to be a Galaxy far far away.
A long, long time ago.
The disneys starwars movies always always remind me of a quote by Mark Rosewater of Magic the Gathering "If everyone likes your game but no one loves it, it will fail." and that's pretty much the whole problem Disney have with their Star Wars movies, their are people that liked the Sequels (though personally I didn't) but very few of them actually liked the movies enough to actually be invested in the disney universe, many turned up to the movies left and never looked at anything Star Wars again.
cost was too high, it wasn't star-wars themed, and having an immersive experience like that day after day is just too much for anyone
Disney: why does nobody love me?
Also Disney: makes a 6000 dollar hotel that feels like generic sci-fi, destroys everything the previous films worked for, expects fans to watch another film starring Rey.
I want a Tatooine hotel with cool organic sleeping nooks, blue milk, outdoor seating, moisture evaporators and a lower cost! It would be all underground too.
I just dropped $1500 to buy and build a clone trooper cosplay suit, and I have yet to see The Rise of Skywalker. That’s should say something about my opinions on Disney Star Wars…
You're not missing anything. The minute Leia walks past Chewie to cosole Rey over Han's death was the nail in the coffin for me.
it would be cool if they created a system of "hyperspace travels" to go from one planet to another
Maybe if they do let the hotel get run down, and have light bulbs burning out, doors not opening right, and actors’ costumes getting a bit tattered it would start to look like Star Wars.
One could go to a grocery store and find that nine out of ten people at random whom could quickly come up with far more profitable plan for Star Wars than those at Lucasfilm.
The situation has become a matter of spite by those running Lucasfilm.
Those that took control of the temple are upset that no one is bowing to their "greatness", so they are burning the temple to the ground.
By the way, the Naboo waterpark idea would have been a great idea.
I even talked about this with my dad, he said it looked horrible even saying they should’ve just made it original trilogy themed which I agree.
6,000 DOLLARS FOR TWO NIGHTS. NOPE!
I'd rather make my own park before I pay that. You can't use your own phone to take pictures you have to pay 90 DOLLARS for an AUTHENTIC picture. I'd rather have a cheap park that you can walk around freely to take pictures with the characters we actually love. I'd FREAKING EVEN TAKE JAR JAR.
Okay I wouldn't go jar jar for but I agree
Star Wars was a story, now it’s a “universe” that Disney has over saturated as a cash grab.
Star Wars no longer exists. Disney destroyed it.
Honestly, I suspect they made it stupidly expensive to justify trashing it when it failed.
They could turn the hotel into a hotel with all characters like he said and they could even add things in there like where you build a droid and lightsaber. They have enough content of starwars that staying with the shows that do well is something they should stick to. They could make an entire Disney park from starwars planets alone, make it like Epcot of starwars
How to fix.
1. Get rid of space experience and turn it into a lobby
2. Add a dam pool for the resort
3. 150 per night
4. Tvs
Boba fett dancing is literally such an iconic meme. Star Wars weekends was lit. They should have done exaclty what you said.
I actually attended the Void experience and it was the most immersive Star Wars experience I ever went through ever since I rode Star Tours was reopened
Honestly, if it was priced reasonably, like $300 to $500/night (Disney inflated costs), then MAYBE it might be worth it. But $6k for 2 nights?! For that price, I better have some topless Princess Leias serenade me each morning and bring me coffee.
'Where would I like to see Disney put their resources'
Abandon the shitquel canon. Begin production on a Legendary Cinematic Timeline. Adapt Legends _By The Book with _*_no additions._* Scenes can be cut, trimmed or merged for better pacing, but no Disney bullshit.
I did the void Star Wars experience three times and it was amazing. Unfortunately covid killed the void and they went out of business. So Disney pulled their IP license after the bankruptcy.
$6000 for a a day fake cruise, games and interactive elements that were still in beta test mode.
I had the financial means of going but I couldn’t bring myself to go to the starcruiser. For $6k I could go to anywhere on earth for a week. From what the itinerary stated, it was 2 half days and one full day. I did do the void and it was the coolest Star Wars experience ever, wish they had video of it online.
When people who dont love or even like the subject they are trying to design for....it shows
I did that starwars VR experience at downtown Disney Anaheim some years ago and it was SO FREAKING COOL. I was never a huge star wars fan but that legit changed how I felt about the whole thing. It was so dang fun and exciting!
So basically they should have stuck with the traditional Disney Land formula of mashing the best aspects of each IP into their own rides/areas with character actors, all existing outside of canonical timelines. That could've been the same physical size as Batuu and it still would've been SO COOL. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled star wars
Galactic Starcruiser has been absolutely ruined in Disney.
Largest corporation on Earth? Um … no. Not even close.
When you spend a fortune on something, you expect a certain level of quality.
This is the more sense I’ve seen and heard in Star Wars since episode 3, thank you MJ. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I would love it if Indy 5 is a complete flop if it means Kathleen Kennedy is out, at this point I seriously think it’s the only thing that could create enough hype for all fans to be excited about the future again.
I'd say you were right, but Kennedy seems like she's immune to everything short of a bucket of water being thrown at her.
You just made me realize, Disney hates the OG Star Wars. They want to make their own universe, and make it worse.
Lando knocked the radar dish off not Rey. And Rey didn't replace it either.
It's simple why it flopped. First it was pathetically overpriced. And it's NOT Star Wars. It's Disney Wars. I've seen a lot of videos from people who went and it didn't resemble the SW universe at all...
How can you call it a star ship when it doesn’t even leave earths orbit?
You're in a building for two days shut off from civilization, doesn't really sound like fun. Anybody remember The Star Trek Experience at the Vegas Hilton, something like that would have been a lot better!
The Star wars hotel was a great idea in premise Disney absolutely dropped the ball in execution.
give me a run down looking hotel in a city in Tatooine. Have shops, bars, quests, and actors who treat you like a new comer in the town. Make it take place during or shortly before/after the battle of Tatooine. Somehow create a forced perspective second sun in the sky. I pay 6k
The sequels were objectively terrible, disjointed and illogical movies. They had basically zero world building. Who are the First Order? Didn’t the empire loose? And the resistance is only a couple ships? Isn’t their side in control? It makes no f’ing sense. It also smashed the characters we all grew up with and made them a mockery of their former glory.
Then to sell an experience to this train wreck at $3k a night was never going to work. Anyone with that sort of disposable income has zero interest in the sequel disaster.
Do you know what's funny I never noticed that Darth Vader's lightsaber couldn't cut through Obi-Wan's Jedi robe 🤣😂.
What I'd want to do in a Star Wars hotel? Let's see:
- Revisit OT locations and see OT characters that aren't Ewoks. This means Tatooine, Yavin IV, Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin, and the forest moon of Endor, minus the Ewoks if possible. It also means both Death Stars.
- Revisit select PT locations, especially Coruscant, Naboo, and Kamino.
- Stay in rooms which resemble rebel or imperial architecture from the OT, and the best PT rooms from Coruscant and Naboo. Possibly a Mustafar room, minus the heat. Perhaps the rooms can be custom-themed on each night one stays there: just change the video display and any background sound effects.
- Possibly some material from the cartoons, especially Clone Wars and Rebels.
- See locations from Mando seasons 1 and 2. Maybe some stuff from -Halo: Reach- Rogue One.
- Not be charged $6000 for two nights.
- NOT see anything from the ST.
- If possible, watch a live action version of the greatest lightsaber fights from the OT and PT and Mando, especially Luke vs. Vader both times, Obi-Wan vs. Vader on Mustafar, Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon vs. Darth Maul, and Luke vs. the Dark Troopers.
I wanna have a clone wars themed thing, like a laser tag game dressed as clones, but they would never do that because they didn't make clone wars.
they would need to get rid of their ceo to change course, but she clearly has some kind of crazy protection
Imagine owning one of the biggest money generating entertainment franchises in entertainment history and wasting it away, by double, triple, and quadrupling down on the unpopular movies. So much money they could generate. But, it seems obvious to me whats wrong Disney management when it comes to Star Wars is simply too much Narcissistic Pride.
For 5000 DOLLARS? I'd want to be at a 5 Star super hotel of relaxation for 2 weeks. Not a cramped tiny space with actors running about for only 2 days.
Like, I could find a stay at a hotel in legoland that cost literally 100 times less. Seriously, who in their right mind thinks 2 days at a cramped tiny hotel for 5000 dollars is at all worth it? You'd have to be crazy to think that is worth it.
Star Wars is a big enough franchise to deserve its own theme park, but Disney is too lazy to do that.
Underrated problem: it was not built to look like a spaceship from the outside. There are, however, way more reason that the groomers at Disney messed up here.
The best thing Disney can do is delete episode 7-9 and make new good films
It would be cool if Galaxy's edge was multiple planets, or even like Koboh. It feels so cool simply because it's not just one biome
They’re trying to convert it into a 5 hour restaurant experience
The only thing legitimately creative they did was making the retractable lightsabers to use. Honestly if they tweaked the design and made it more durable it would be a massive seller.
my ideal star wars land would be set either during the "dark times" (between revenge of the sith and a new hope) so you could get both original trilogy and prequel trilogy characters, or during the New republic era (just after return of the jedi) i would have a central hub (coruscant) which has most of the shopping and dining options, as well as the jedi temple where a jedi (either an order 66 survivor for dark times or one of Luke's students for new republic era) would take you on a VR adventure inside the temple.
the spaceport would take you to different "planets" (parts of the park) where each place has a unique ride/attraction for you to experience.
I lived by a void and took my son there several times. The hotel also should have made each room like a galactic looking suite comparable to their other nice hotels. The rooms should over look a cool alien garden. Regardless of price that place doesn’t look like somewhere I would want to go.
I think the movies will never be nearly as good because the people behind them are exactly what Lucas was against. How can they tell good stories being a big corporate animal?
The Void in Disney Springs was so much fun and definitely more immersive than the Star Wars part of HS. I feel like I haven't spent more then 30 minutes in that part of the park because it isn't worth it.
I will literally never understand why they decided to make the star wars hotel on a spaceship instead of theming it like it was located on one of the many planets. Imagine how insanely beautiful a hotel designed with the Naboo architecture would be, or if they used the scrapped mediterranean hotel as inspiration for a hotel “in” Tatooine. These ideas also would’ve been valuable for those who have never seen star wars, the architecture is universally beautiful regardless of if you’re a fan or not. For me at least, the most fantastical part of star wars’ world building is the planets and it feels like such a misread to make the star wars hotel a spaceship.
I am sorry but the whole Disney ruining Star Wars was caused by the fandom and thier hatred of The Prequels. I can't believe no one thought of it.
Let me tell you the fact that the Sequels nullifies the accomplishment that PT and OT had.
It's like a 1 hit wonder band: hamstrung by the past, unable to make something new that isn't self referential, and unwilling to try new ideas.
You know why everyone loved the OG trilogy? Because it was new and exciting when it came out. We've had four decades of Star Wars that all felt the same. We need fresh and new ideas.
Starwars MGM a more beloved times, before the dark times, before Disney
I will also add that I completely understand why they're closing this hotel. Because this hotel was from the ground up designed as a today interactive experience that is completely self-contained for the outside world. Basically there is no way they can make this into a cheap normal hotel without heavily modifying it so much that they might as well demolish the current building and build something else instead. Basically you can't convert galactic star cruiser from its weird Disney cruise on land set in its own world to a hotel that would fit in with the outside of the rest of the land without a huge complete change that will make it indistinguishable from what it was before.
Sell it back to George Lucas at a hefty discount due to brand damage. Then I want Lucas to do a trilogy on the rise of the New Republic with Thrawn attempting to seize control. However, do to the age of the actors, I would recast everyone in the new trilogy.
Actually, yeah. Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser IS Disney’s “most creative” thing they’ve done with SW. Let that sink in, and realize just how low that bar is now.
Not that many Kids like the sequel trilogy. Toys didn’t sell. There’s hardly any merch for it. There’s barely any games based on it, and there wasn’t many kids at this year’s celebration. The Mandalorian will probably be the thing that will have more nostalgia when the young generation grows up.
"Someone needs to speak up"
Fans have spoken out for years, but were told our opinions are invalid even though we are the ones spending our money on Star Wars, or rather, were spending our money on Star Wars.
Imagine if they gave Peter Dominick (architect of wilderness and animal kingdom lodge) the green light to do a Star Wars hotel in the 90s how much better (and inclusive) would that have been
Disney closing the Star cruiser instead of making it more affordable poses the question if it could feasibly run and make a profit at a lower price for guests. The experience was expensive to run. The actors were essentially “on set” all day. They have to remember who guest are, all of their conversations, choices, and alliances. There are so few rooms and lack of things to do outside the story provided for you. If they opened as a regular hotel the place might need to be gutted for things like a spa, pool, or just anything for people to do. Then small capacity would mean it would still be expensive, but with the small room size would people want to stay for the price? If they had just built a normal Star Wars hotel that had a range of room prices with maybe the top floor themed to this experience they would have probably made so much more money.
There were a lot of people with cash to burn who loved the Star Cruiser. The cast members made it a fun and unique experience for them. As someone on the outside I don’t think I can understand their experience with out, well experiencing it. Which for that price just wasn’t going to happen. You just didn’t get it unless you went. So to me it just looks like some strange Star Trek knock off people paid too much money for.
It blows my mind that Disney STILL keeps pushing this dumpster fire sequel trilogy. You screwed up. Forget it. Move on.
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you had to say here. Except for this hotel possibly working with a prequel theme. I grew up with those movies as well, but they are inarguably lesser liked and more poorly received then the newer films.
Basically you have a creatively bankrupt corporation that forked over a huge amount of money for an IP they have no idea what to do with. Because they sunk 4 billion dollars into it, they need to milk the franchise for all its worth and are throwing everything they can at the wall to see what sticks. Unfortunately, without a clear direction and no-one who really knows and loves Star Wars in charge, they're just producing a ton of mostly mediocre product that is turning off the core audience for what they're trying to sell.
I really don’t think letting fans dictate the direction the franchise goes is a good idea. I mean we all saw what happened in response to the last Jedi.
I really wanted to go to the Star Wars hotel… I guess i will never get a full Star Wars experience I hate Disney sometimes.
Maybe off-topic, but this video actually highlighted my main beef with the sequel trilogy: they don't feel like a trilogy. 7,8, & 9 literally feel like three separate movies. Like, neither three movies needed each other, and neither of them seem to have a connection other than it takes place in space. Like, he was right. Each movie was a different story by a different director & you can tell right off the bat.
It's just the price.
It's not because it's the sequels.
It's not because it's Galaxy's Edge related.
It's not because it's clean and not dirty.
It's not because of its execution.
It's not because of it's lack of Prequel and Original trilogy content.
It's not because it feels like new Star Wars.
It's not because it's Disney Star Wars.
It's not because their is no Han Solo or other Prequel/Original trilogy characters.
It's. Literally. Just. The Price.
12:12 indeed. It’s not as if the fans are quiet about our preferences. There are dozens upon dozens of high-profile social media influencers (and their comment sections) who Disney could mine for information for free.
Why would I stay in a hotel that belongs to a company that hates me? Why drop five grand for a one night experience as shallow as the movies it was based off of?
A better way to do that would to make a not cannon universe
Also those ticket prices are awful…
If you want to hear from an influencer who could afford it and did go Jenny Nichols just finished her video about the experience,
I'd rather spend 5 grand on groceries paying off debts.
Would be cool idea if they build star wars themed cruise ship instead of hotel.
You are so on point. I hope they try again. But Star Wars is dystopian. It's sad. I wish better for our characters. But anytime anything is too nice or clean, outside of the empire, it feels so uncomfortable.
What if the good side found out the bad side was making a space weapon in the sky that could destroy planets like some sort of.. Star Death…but not a Death Star…..or a Death Star #2, for some reason.
I did TheVoid twice in Orlando. It is way more awesome than you can actually describe. They should have brought that experience to the galactic star cruiser. Then maybe he would be worth $6k