*Stats Changes - Update 6.2:* Both still have same damage as each other, but are now a 4-7 shot kill, Bren still has superior accuracy, Lewis gun still has better stability
This is what pisses me off about Historical Battlefield and Dice. The Bren gun and the ZB33 it was derived from are possibly the best light machine guns ever made. But Dice nerfs them for crap like Madsens. It’s as bad as the Chauchat debacle in Battlefield one, where that was a prize weapon despite being possibly the worst firearm ever issued to an army, ever. A piece of utter shite.
@@c0rruption775 They're talking about the ZB vz. 33, the Czech machine gun which the Bren is based off of. It doesn't appear in BFV but they're saying that it and the Bren were amazing weapons in real life, while the Bren in BFV is pretty mediocre.
Idk man. Lewis got like 30 more rpm. You shouldn't sacrifice efficiency for versatillity.The Lewis gun is worse at many things compared many other guns. At least the Bren is very good at one thing instead of dragging itself along.
Im exactly the same as you. I used it once for maybe 20 mins. Now after trying it again i love it, its my favourite lmg its so accurate and it works well with the 3x scope
To be honest, the Lewis Gun, is for people who are super inacurate and need to puke a lot of bullets to kill one player. It's also a very campy gun.... The Bren however is a laser beam and a player with a good knowledge of his ammo count makes him shoot players decisively.
Likewise though a player who can be accurate and makes the most of his ammo will be better off with the Lewis Gun though. 47 vs 30, skilled vs skilled, Lewis is more likely to win. Then slap that 97 round magazine on and you have a real edge over a lot of guns.
The choice is obvious here... The Lewis is an actual lmg, the bren is in my opinion just an assault rifle... The Lewis in my opinion is always gonna be better #TeamLewis
I would glaldy take the Lewis gun with the extended mag vs nearly every support gun. Used it extensively to unlock the fg-42 only to go back to it. You can take out a squad or two if you aim your shots well and then resupply yourself for more kills. Love the lewwy!
If you go with maximum recoil reduction on both guns, the Bren is a smidge more accurate, I feel it reloads faster, but ultimately the Lewis Gun is better, it's minor accuracy loss isnt enough to keep it from being useful, 47 bullets beats 30, god help you if you run the extended 97 round magazine on the Lewis Gun and if you're sitting on the bi-pod both guns arent going to have recoil that matters.
I'm gonna say it, I've played with the bren and got all the assignments done for it, I got used to it, but the lewis feels jumpier than the bren, also when you aim, the iron sights are sticking out on left and right, plus the mag at the bottom is annoying since I'm always stationary somewhere above other players.
Stg is clearly better. I tried to use the ribeyrolles but couldn't bring my self to get it past rank 2. It just fires too slow for my assault class playstyle
i play with lewis with all the right side perks include extended Mag and the class specialization that give me option of spot enemies when i supprress them. this large amount of bullets and spotting enemies is a great combo and absolutly favourite in support class.....bren is good but the magazine cover a large part of the screen
Awesome video again, kris! I prefer the Lewis by far.. maybe from the experience with it carried over from bf1.. and that extra RPM really makes a difference. Also vertical recoil is one of my weaknesses so having that low vertical recoil is Essential to me!
These types of weapons really make me wish we had the B.A.R in-game with the toggleable 300 or 600 RPM fire rate. That being said, the Bren is an absolute laser beam.
Light mg like the bren/ fm24 and type 97 where known to be very accurate, this is why they took so long to be replaced with heavier mg like the mg42 and m60 . They where not that great at suppression and where just made for war ( to kill ). Now army need suppression and not a giant automatic rifle.
I mean, frankly the Lewis gun is overall superior just for the simple fact of having a dummy THICC mag capacity. But the Bren is far superior if you’re not aggressive at all and choose a defensive role. Better stability and the very impressive sustain of a quick reload. It would be an absolute beast for holding an objective down on a bipod. Basically a quicker reloading type 11
Great Video! love your "Vs." series. The Bren Gun was my first wepon when i started playing BF5 was great to get the hang of the gunplay (Also the first i had all gold plated) Keep it up!
one crucial point missed. Unlike the Lewis Bren can change the fire mode to single bullets, essentially helping it become more like a rifle for longer distance targets. I've had alot of success with this on snipers and campers.
In reality bren would be better than Lewis cause this last is older but in game is far more better Lewis. I used both, with 3x scope. Lewis with 47 rounds is really precise and letal also at distance, more effective than bren for lower recoil and has more rounds in his mag. I don't discuss choices of others everybody has own preference but rarely I find so many players togheter to need 97 rounds so I prefer 47 (isn't bad amount anyway) and better precision at any distance.
I have a problem getting the mmg's to lvl 4. Everytime I try to use them my team does nothing so I have to bring out a lmg to be mobile and lick up my teams slack
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*Stats Changes - Update 6.2:* Both still have same damage as each other, but are now a 4-7 shot kill, Bren still has superior accuracy, Lewis gun still has better stability
This is what pisses me off about Historical Battlefield and Dice. The Bren gun and the ZB33 it was derived from are possibly the best light machine guns ever made. But Dice nerfs them for crap like Madsens. It’s as bad as the Chauchat debacle in Battlefield one, where that was a prize weapon despite being possibly the worst firearm ever issued to an army, ever. A piece of utter shite.
@@SvenTviking LOL, u called the Type 97 the ZB 33? Ain't nobody gonna know what weapon you're referring to
@@c0rruption775 They're talking about the ZB vz. 33, the Czech machine gun which the Bren is based off of. It doesn't appear in BFV but they're saying that it and the Bren were amazing weapons in real life, while the Bren in BFV is pretty mediocre.
Lewis for versatility, Bren for loooong range
That sums it up.
Idk man. Lewis got like 30 more rpm. You shouldn't sacrifice efficiency for versatillity.The Lewis gun is worse at many things compared many other guns. At least the Bren is very good at one thing instead of dragging itself along.
S 338 you fool, with 97 rounds at my disposal I can outrage any gun, even snipers. You cannot beat me with my iron sights.
How about SVT-40 vs M1 Garand? Oh wait...
wouldn't even be a competition one goes ping and the other malfunctions
@@GuitarHeroHardyMaste Correction: One goes ping, the other explodes.
@@raptorcell6633 one goes ping the other one calls in the fucking ski-wielding fins
@@GuitarHeroHardyMaste they dont even need their guns, the others guys SVT exploded so the finns can beat them death with their skis.
@@GuitarHeroHardyMaste PING!!!
So... which one are you taking out on the Battlefield?
Lewis gun (with extended mag) ftw, bren is very accurate, but those reloads always catch me out lol
Bren gun. I like the Lewis for it's capacity, but I feel like I don't need the capacity with the Bren when I'm able to land my shots more effectively
Lewis. Iron sights with extended mags are very nice.
Lewis gun for my UK Machine Gunner.
Bren for my UK Engineer.
Lewis gun
I wrote off the bren but having tried it again recently I've been enjoying it with the 3x scope. laser beam accurate too.
Im exactly the same as you. I used it once for maybe 20 mins. Now after trying it again i love it, its my favourite lmg its so accurate and it works well with the 3x scope
Yea that 3x scope is the key!!!
Hated the Bren too but I added the 3x scope and I’ve been racking up my kills latley
I will try it now since I seen your post here.
To be honest, the Lewis Gun, is for people who are super inacurate and need to puke a lot of bullets to kill one player. It's also a very campy gun.... The Bren however is a laser beam and a player with a good knowledge of his ammo count makes him shoot players decisively.
Likewise though a player who can be accurate and makes the most of his ammo will be better off with the Lewis Gun though. 47 vs 30, skilled vs skilled, Lewis is more likely to win. Then slap that 97 round magazine on and you have a real edge over a lot of guns.
Maybe we just use it because it's an actual lmg and not a glorified assualt rifle with 30 rounds on an EXTENDED mag...
@@ginger0208 I know your talking about the game but in reality the Bren gun was and is still consider the best LMG of WW2.
@@samuel10125 that is true, not gonna argue that point mate
@@samuel10125 thought mg42 won that
Lewis for more ammo and less obstructed fov that bren magazine take away a lot of it
The magazine is not an issue while using a 3x sight
@@angelromox97 and the AA sights
Little fact the Bren was so good it served in British military all the way into the 1960s
That is the exact reasoning why I choose the Lewis over the Bren
The choice is obvious here... The Lewis is an actual lmg, the bren is in my opinion just an assault rifle... The Lewis in my opinion is always gonna be better #TeamLewis
Gingerneric Gaming click the hashtag lol
The # is wrong lol
I would glaldy take the Lewis gun with the extended mag vs nearly every support gun. Used it extensively to unlock the fg-42 only to go back to it.
You can take out a squad or two if you aim your shots well and then resupply yourself for more kills. Love the lewwy!
Straight facts. I tried the Fg 42 and was disappointed. Basically the gun runs out of bullets as soon as you start shooting seemingly
That's one sexy thumbnail you got there. Also Bren gun is king imho #TeamBren
I wish these videos came out faster or at least every week. Great stuff
Bren for the accuracy and sound. I hate the sound of the Lewis gun. But my main support guns is the mg42 and m1922 mmg
If you go with maximum recoil reduction on both guns, the Bren is a smidge more accurate, I feel it reloads faster, but ultimately the Lewis Gun is better, it's minor accuracy loss isnt enough to keep it from being useful, 47 bullets beats 30, god help you if you run the extended 97 round magazine on the Lewis Gun and if you're sitting on the bi-pod both guns arent going to have recoil that matters.
The Bren is amazing, accurate, low recoil and fast reload. With x3 zoom is incredible.
Really cool video bro, keep goin the good work ^^
Lewis gun! All day long! (almost literally with 97rnds)
In BF1 when I ran support I used my fav...the Lewis gun with over 4,000 kills. I use the Lewis gun in this game as well.
I'm gonna say it, I've played with the bren and got all the assignments done for it, I got used to it, but the lewis feels jumpier than the bren, also when you aim, the iron sights are sticking out on left and right, plus the mag at the bottom is annoying since I'm always stationary somewhere above other players.
Lewis gun is very versatile, love the accuracy from the Bren at longer ranges though
Another awesome vid man, these need more views
First
Edit: please make a ribeyrolles 1918 vs sturmgewehr 44
Who knows what the future will hold eh 😉
I feel like the stg44 packs more of a punch.
Stg is clearly better. I tried to use the ribeyrolles but couldn't bring my self to get it past rank 2. It just fires too slow for my assault class playstyle
Skeezy Greedo: exactly
@@SL-bf2xm it was amazing in bf1. But most weapons in that game fired under 600 bpm
I personally prefer the Bren Gun just because I find it better for flanking and I always reload after leaving a fire fight
i play with lewis with all the right side perks include extended Mag and the class specialization that give me option of spot enemies when i supprress them. this large amount of bullets and spotting enemies is a great combo and absolutly favourite in support class.....bren is good but the magazine cover a large part of the screen
Exactly. You need to see your enemy and the Bren is a problem showing them
Awesome video again, kris! I prefer the Lewis by far.. maybe from the experience with it carried over from bf1.. and that extra RPM really makes a difference. Also vertical recoil is one of my weaknesses so having that low vertical recoil is Essential to me!
These types of weapons really make me wish we had the B.A.R in-game with the toggleable 300 or 600 RPM fire rate. That being said, the Bren is an absolute laser beam.
Bar was king in cod ww2 and they nerfed it twice.
and now we do! It's awful with it's extremely small mag though, still good.
Nice video keep up the good work!
Tough call. I like both. Lewis for general play, Bren for maps like Panzerstorm, Hamada and Al Sundan.
Awesome video
Light mg like the bren/ fm24 and type 97 where known to be very accurate, this is why they took so long to be replaced with heavier mg like the mg42 and m60 . They where not that great at suppression and where just made for war ( to kill ). Now army need suppression and not a giant automatic rifle.
Nice vid, I'd like to see more of these comparisons in the future mate
Lewis gun by far over the Bren. I mean my fov is obstructed by that vertical case. Plus love the ammo of the Lewis compared to the Bren
Kris... You should do a video for the M1907 vs M1A1 carbine
Use the Lewis pretty much as my main for support class need to pick up the Bren and mess with it.
Pretty cool info
Great BFV weapon videos! Keep them coming. Please make a Turner SMLE v. MAS 44 video.
Can you please do FG-42 versus KE-7?!
what did they do to the lewis guns iron sights?!
I mean, frankly the Lewis gun is overall superior just for the simple fact of having a dummy THICC mag capacity.
But the Bren is far superior if you’re not aggressive at all and choose a defensive role. Better stability and the very impressive sustain of a quick reload. It would be an absolute beast for holding an objective down on a bipod. Basically a quicker reloading type 11
Which scope do u recommend for the lewis gun?
Most of ww1 weapons in bfv are beast
the Lewis gun is the mmg of lmg
I fell like I'm using a mmg so I jump on the ground to aim down sights
I use the bren all the time offensively and always get a fairly high spot on the baord
Great Video! love your "Vs." series.
The Bren Gun was my first wepon when i started playing BF5 was great to get the hang of the gunplay (Also the first i had all gold plated)
Keep it up!
one crucial point missed. Unlike the Lewis Bren can change the fire mode to single bullets, essentially helping it become more like a rifle for longer distance targets. I've had alot of success with this on snipers and campers.
it's easy to tap at 514rpm and get single shots out lol, never felt the need to switch to single on anything 600 rpm or below
Tough call, I probably use the Bren more, both good weapons though in their own ways
Lewis is the better choice unless you want to snipe, in which case the Bren works better.
Why would anyone use the bren gun? High ttk, 32 round mag, accurate but even less accurate weapons kill people faster.
Not everyone wants to use the cheese assault guns that are too easy to use.
I just use The bren becouse its so iconic and The Lewis was used in ww1
it was In the Great Emu War (look it up)
oh they lost that war
Btw its the bar vs the bren America vs the UK... FYI
In reality bren would be better than Lewis cause this last is older but in game is far more better Lewis. I used both, with 3x scope. Lewis with 47 rounds is really precise and letal also at distance, more effective than bren for lower recoil and has more rounds in his mag. I don't discuss choices of others everybody has own preference but rarely I find so many players togheter to need 97 rounds so I prefer 47 (isn't bad amount anyway) and better precision at any distance.
Lewis gun because it won in project lighting
Bren wasn't it tho
Go see cand arsenal project lighting series to understand reference
Lewis all th way
I can’t see sh*t when I use the Bren. #TeamLewis
Obviously is Lewis Gunnnn 😱
Lewis gun will eventually recieve a nerf that thing is 101% OP
Bren for me, simply can't beat that accuracy
Lewis gun doesn't have a spinning magazine, nor does it in the game
Lewis because I've gold plated it
I dislike them both. They lack some rpm punch.
Cool
I'd like to see mg34 vs mg42
Owen Manuel Fernandez-Oxby MG42 is way better.
@@jhkcrandallwin5776 I think so too but curious
Iy you reload after every kill, don't
Bren Gun
MADSN BF1
#TeamLewis
The Bren is better - it’s not a remake from bf1
Bruh.
Bren is already out of the competition, just because of the sheer size of the magazine.
Bren because its mag is sheared? Think you got them the other way round
@@julianjohnson7908 Sorry, haven't noticed that I missed a few words. That's what I actually meant with my initial comment.
Support players would rather just camp with a MG-42 than actually do anything
I have gold on every support weapon so I guess I'm a support main
I have a problem getting the mmg's to lvl 4. Everytime I try to use them my team does nothing so I have to bring out a lmg to be mobile and lick up my teams slack
Lewis can fire 97 bullets straight without overheating barrel.its the best weapon for sure.