Mark Roth 1975 King Louie Open

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  • @NatureB3
    @NatureB3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The day a legend was born. RIP to an all time great!

  • @billysmith7590
    @billysmith7590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Old school bowling, rubber ball and wood lanes. Mark Roth makes it look so easy. Back then you had no room for error.

  • @russellgilbert3453
    @russellgilbert3453 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Said it before, and I still believe Mark Roth is the True beast of bowling.

  • @majaman1978
    @majaman1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love you Mark Roth.
    RIP

  • @steveperry1344
    @steveperry1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    too bad mark just missed the 300, it was really cool how the other bowlers and fans came up right away to congratulate him, very touching moment.

  • @josephgibbons1631
    @josephgibbons1631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What did the rank and file bowlers think of Mark Roth when he arrived on tour? Never had they seen a bowling style like his. Mark was an innovator setting the foundation for the power game of today.

  • @johngritenas4466
    @johngritenas4466 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My idol!! Those balls were all in the pocket. No doubt. Fantastic. He could not throw all those any better. RIP. I will truly miss him. Mark brought concentration and charisma to the game.

  • @multicaruana
    @multicaruana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I had no idea that Mark Roth bowled a 299 to win this tournament. A solid 4 pin no less. One of the best games ever bowled on TV.Every shot was buried.

    • @davidprince1138
      @davidprince1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      12th shot was a little high, but an awesome bowler that young kids everywhere aspired to.. RIP.

    • @Bothomas-vm5hz
      @Bothomas-vm5hz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he also bowled a 299 in the buffalo open in 1987 with the same format winning the tournament

  • @lumberlikwidator8863
    @lumberlikwidator8863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you saw a lot of bowling back then, which I did, you could tell that Mark Roth was taking some of his hand out of the ball. My guess is that if you leaked it right it would never get back to the head pin. Mark and Steve are not playing the track on this show. The track for right handlers back then was usually between the 10-13 board. It looks like both these guys have cut down the hook and are trying to flush every shot so they don't go 5-7 or 8-10. I saw plenty of top pros leave the 8-10 back then. This is a really tough shot to play, because you know you can't swing the ball and you've really got to stuff it in the pocket to carry. Kudos to both these guys for playing the lanes correctly for the equipment of the era. I remember above-ground ball returns and they made it really hard to make the ten pin.
    I saw this match in the winter of 1974-75. It was Mark Roth's first national tour title, and I was so happy for him. He had been so close many times before. I'd like to see some of today's pros try to shoot 250-300 on this condition, with vintage bowling balls. I recall this was shown live in color, and if I am not mistaken, Mark was using a red plastic Columbia 300, and he carried well with a very flat entry angle. No question that he was flattening his hand release because that's what this condition called for. RIP Mark Roth, an early idol of mine, and an all-time great!

  • @musicfan1517
    @musicfan1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The first game I remember watching on TV...For anyone in the Belmo era, bowling a 299 with 12 in the pocket while half the time your foot is slamming the ball return machine on the delivery is another level of "adjustments"! Of course, Mark Roth was special. RIP.

  • @maureengilligo1960
    @maureengilligo1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite Bowler....Mark Roth Rocks

  • @topthrilldragster20
    @topthrilldragster20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    rest in piece Mark

  • @joshuanewcombe8454
    @joshuanewcombe8454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ahh the sound of wood lanes. Aren't many left in the state's.

  • @ramwagon11
    @ramwagon11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mark and Petey W are my 2 favorites ever

  • @richb4099
    @richb4099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old school ! He was great !

  • @fiddleronthecube7835
    @fiddleronthecube7835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mark absolutely stuffed the first eleven. He was a tad high on the twelfth. RIP Mark! Oh, what he could have done with modern bowling balls.

  • @joezappetella9504
    @joezappetella9504 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm surprised they carry so many 10 pins with that entry angle.

  • @poolmannocal6299
    @poolmannocal6299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP MARK ROTH 1951-2021

  • @tomy5868
    @tomy5868 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    overland park Kansas...grew up at that bowling alley. had a billiards room and ice skating rink too. empty as hell now...

    • @NateCraven318
      @NateCraven318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This aged well. It's now the Johnson county museum.

  • @MrBoljangles
    @MrBoljangles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your a rookie in heaven now Mark. Lace up your pearly bowling shoes and throw your 1st 300 with the angels watching. RIP Mark.

  • @mqbitsko25
    @mqbitsko25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "You can't do anything about leaving that ten pin" he says, as he wonders aloud why Roth cranks the ball so hard.......

  • @pbatommy
    @pbatommy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you imagine Jason Belmonte trying to bowl with those ball returns?

    • @daveconleyportfolio5192
      @daveconleyportfolio5192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roth always used to kick that left-hand ball return on his release. You'd hear TWO bangs when he threw the ball.

  • @RunKdb
    @RunKdb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1 year before this, Jim Stefanich went high on the 12th shot but got away with it.

  • @scottpool4777
    @scottpool4777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roth the man oh yeah definitely I wish I could get an autograph from him and be the world to me.

  • @dennis300cr
    @dennis300cr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bowlers will notice that very nice holding pattern as the ball enters the pocket, sweet shot there!

    • @blackjack7811
      @blackjack7811 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark Roth made it look easy with those old rubber balls.

  • @NathanThePrezPretlow
    @NathanThePrezPretlow หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first power bowler Mark Roth.RIP

  • @kyle1910
    @kyle1910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not just strikes but multiple explosive, all-ten-pins-immediately-into-the-pit strikes.

  • @toscodav
    @toscodav 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 12 shot has cost Roth more money than any other bowler.

  • @wesleystafford8521
    @wesleystafford8521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This looks and sounds like it was from 1960.

    • @deborahchesser7375
      @deborahchesser7375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wesley Stafford it does look a lot earlier than 75’

  • @SuperBorg1
    @SuperBorg1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    nice track in these wood lanes

  • @teddyruxpin8115
    @teddyruxpin8115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ,wanted that Lincoln Mercury!

  • @nordattack
    @nordattack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was there like a groove in the lane that guided the ball to the pocket??? If they rolled over that one area the ball was on a rail!

  • @NathanThePrezPretlow
    @NathanThePrezPretlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Throwing them rubber balls back in 1975.

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They had plastic balls back then, the Columbia 300 was popular. I remember a pro in 1975 who showed me his Columbia, it had a small shallow hole drilled near the fingers, this was to test for cover hardness both outside and in the hole. This was to catch the players who dipped their ball in solvent to soften the cover, which at the time was illegal.

  • @scottvansel4563
    @scottvansel4563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the year I was born..lol

  • @dave1283
    @dave1283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was no "solid" 4. It was a high hit, very high. Roth just threw so hard that he blasted the pins back and it looked solid.

    • @kevinscarborough9982
      @kevinscarborough9982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. It was higher on the head pin than the rest of the shots.

    • @josephliptak
      @josephliptak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, he came in high which usually leaves the solid 4 pin.

  • @chairmanmeow3693
    @chairmanmeow3693 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the other guy's score?

  • @raymonsummers562
    @raymonsummers562 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He did it without a "pit crew" telling him what adjustments to make because it was illegal back then. Good chance he used that same ball the entire tournament also.

  • @richm1862
    @richm1862 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love rark loth

  • @MrRemark21
    @MrRemark21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This program was aired on Saturday, February 1st, 1975 and it was in black and white & kinescope. When a television time machine comes, it could restore that same episode and go to color & videotape.

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      II watched this in "75. It was not
      B & W

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They had color TV 100% by 1975, this must a b+w copy of the tape.

  • @matthewmajcher7180
    @matthewmajcher7180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what Mark Roth's rev rate was?

  • @floridamaddogg
    @floridamaddogg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Above ground balls returns I hated more than anything.

  • @russellgilbert3453
    @russellgilbert3453 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rosanne, balls didn't hook that much back then.

  • @deborahchesser7375
    @deborahchesser7375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like 63’ or so

  • @Sammy10100
    @Sammy10100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bowled 300 last week on my Wii

    • @rosannecasella8946
      @rosannecasella8946 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      great!~ i've been trying for 11 damn years! i got a 279

    • @nordattack
      @nordattack 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay! My high is a 259 with a rubber ball. Maybe someday. What ball did you use for the 300?

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoop dee doo !
      Just kidding, congrats

  • @marcelmetz363
    @marcelmetz363 ปีที่แล้ว

    What score Mark Roth played against Steve Jones I know his score was 299.

  • @lostasadorespr
    @lostasadorespr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This look like a real old-time live stepladder. Not like the stage-mounted fake crap of Dick Weber and Carmen Salvino.

  • @CapAnson12345
    @CapAnson12345 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video looks like 1965 not 1975.

  • @joeambrose3260
    @joeambrose3260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF happened to Steve Jones?

  • @martywatson6311
    @martywatson6311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been there, done that. Twice..

  • @MrNYCman530
    @MrNYCman530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is the 12th strike always the toughest?

    •  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gee, why do you think?

    • @nordattack
      @nordattack 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A great bowler once told me: "The 10th strike is easy, the 11th is super hard and the 12th is pure luck."

    • @OlympicSeason
      @OlympicSeason 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      RufusLeakin mental

  • @pdxhillbilly
    @pdxhillbilly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is this in black and white in 1975?

    • @MrRemark21
      @MrRemark21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fleaflicker 34 Some American sources say that the color television sets could cost a major fortune.

    • @8avexp
      @8avexp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We bought our first color set on March 4, 1970. I still remember that day.@@MrRemark21

    • @daveconleyportfolio5192
      @daveconleyportfolio5192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could watch it in color. But they didn't always record it in color.

  • @rosannecasella8946
    @rosannecasella8946 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    funny how he cranks it there but it still doesn't hook.

    • @dmoore0079
      @dmoore0079 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rosanne Casella it doesn't look like much by today's standards, but if you compare the backend reaction of Mark Roth' s bowling ball compared to the average PBA bowler back in the 70's, you definitely see a difference. It was rare for Mark to leave a flat 10.

    • @josephgibbons1631
      @josephgibbons1631 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rosanne Casella urethane balls on wood lanes....that ball is hooking about as much as that ball can.

    • @StoneCold75
      @StoneCold75 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Joseph Gibbons I don’t think that was urethane in ‘75. Hard plastic most likely and very hard to hook on wood lanes of the old days

    • @rosewoodfretboard
      @rosewoodfretboard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That was lacquer finishes on those lanes, my friends. Two-tone rubber balls were the standard. Polyester and plastic balls followed (remember the "soaker" controversy of the 1970s?), with Ebonite leading the charge into urethane by 1980. However, Ebonite did not project consumers paying almost $100 for a bowling ball. Ebonite manufactured AMF equipment at the time and subsequently sold the rights for urethane marketing. That led to AMF's revolutionary Angle series, which caused a seismic shift in the sport. The 1980s saw an explosion of high-performance equipment hit the market as Ebonite would eventually follow suit with its Firebolt family of products, Columbia 300 with its U-Dot series and Faball with the venerable Hammer line.
      My first urethane ball was a Gold Angle, then I graduated to the Purple, which became my favorite. The last ball I ever bought was a Blue Hammer. The Hammer was great, but boy, I miss my Purple Angle.
      To David Moore's point, Mark Roth was power personified; he was the original cranker. When Dick Weber said Roth was practically ripping the cover off the ball, that was not mere hyperbole. Nobody injected more raw horsepower consistently into every shot than Roth. Believe you me, if you've seen closeups of his right hand, you'd understand. Part of that was the fact that Roth had his fingerholes and thumbhole drilled a half-size smaller. He would quite literally screw his fingers and thumb into the ball. This gave him, as he put it, "a handful of ball," so the feel was consistent and he didn't squeeze it under pressure.
      Roth was also incredibly instinctive. He'd take five, six, sometimes seven steps to the foul line. He could make dizzying adjustments on the fly, sometimes in mid-match, and his ability to just flat-out overpower an uncooperative lane condition is the stuff of legend. Years of pot bowling, or "action" bowling, in alleys along the eastern seaboard was his proving ground for the pro tour, and the kid from Brooklyn made good.
      Sorry to drone on. I could take about PBA history all day.

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosewoodfretboard No need to apologize for a solid worthwhile comment.

  • @joeambrose3260
    @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who's the announcer ?
    I know the face

    • @daveconleyportfolio5192
      @daveconleyportfolio5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lead announcer is Bud Palmer--socialite, former New York Knick, Glamour magazine columnist, New York City government official and sportscaster. Color commentator is Hall of Fame bowler Billy Welu.

    • @cygnusrider
      @cygnusrider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@daveconleyportfolio5192 No, the color man is Dick Weber.

    • @scotthable888
      @scotthable888 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dick Weber was helping fill in as analyst in 1975 after Billy Welu passed away following the 1974 season from a heart attack.

  • @josephliptak
    @josephliptak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wife, they didn't have color in 1975-?

    • @toscodav
      @toscodav 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same thing. I've seen footage from the 60's that look way better than this.

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not the original feed

    • @jamesdye8473
      @jamesdye8473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember watching this live and it was in color. I’m guessing this is an uplink or another type of feed. Possibly Armed Forces TV?

  • @josephbalachick1879
    @josephbalachick1879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    real bowling

  • @pizzaguy1966
    @pizzaguy1966 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    black and white in 1975? Gotta hate the ball returns that extend all the way to the foul line

    • @toscodav
      @toscodav 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. I've seen 60's footage that looked better than this.

    • @joeambrose3260
      @joeambrose3260 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a kinescope

  • @20alphabet
    @20alphabet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Back when bowling was still legit!

    • @mr.niceguy2942
      @mr.niceguy2942 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      20alphabet what do you mean, things change later in existence. It's not 1975 anymore.

    • @20alphabet
      @20alphabet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With your apparent disdain for cultural preservation, you'll undoubtedly enjoy your new bathroom privileges.

    • @royplayer
      @royplayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Back when bowling a 300 meant something. I've bowled twenty 300 games and I suck at bowling.

    •  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Got 5 year olds bowling 300's these days...smh

    • @20alphabet
      @20alphabet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Mike Harkins
      Undoubtedly.

  • @maureengilligo1960
    @maureengilligo1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite Bowler....Mark Roth Rocks