Yep. And talked about Trump being way worse than Hillary Clinton? I've always liked Rojas but feels like another damn sell out. Wake up people we've been totally had. Again. Get pissed people. If you're not then you're a sheep.
@@tobyfunk6858 Guys come one ... Trump is way worse than Hillary. The way Trump has gutted the EPA, socially catered white nationalists, and stacked the courts with conservatives is more devastating to progressives than the neoliberalism Hillary would've practiced.
Justice democrats aren't led by Kyle and Cenk like they should be.thats all I need to know. If she had any integrity she would work with or for Kyle and/or Cenk right now, I am not interested in what she has to say, agree that no one should vote Biden though.
@TheEsotericZebra Well, when the democratic party turns its back on a large portion of people, how can they be expected to vote for the democratic candidate?
it is encouraging and refreshing to see different groups standing by their principles and not simply giving in to the false choices that the 2 party system is trying to feed us.
@@kathyacouch Bernie is at fault for why he lost though and why trump will get re elected. a complete coward that cares more about his good friend Joe Biden than he does us.
Bernie didn't capitalize on his position when he had immense bargaining power. Early on he gave up when he said blue no matter who. Joe OPPOSES the same policies that drew me to support Bernie. Think I'll sit this one out
Oh my gosh have you guys realized how POWERFUL you guys are? You're at least 1/3rd of the entire democratic party! Bernie has failed you but that doesn't mean you have to capitulate! Use your collective bargaining and voting power! Don't let the DNC trick you into thinking you're helpless!
@@jusupdjidjimidjimilovic3677 Who are you talking to? Me? I am not a "Trumpist" I am to the left of the Justice Dems you dolt. In what way am I wrong? She endlessly dissembled and blathered bit the kernel of the question that matters underneath it all is that yes, of course they will still be supporting / voting for Biden even if they get ZERO concessions from him because Orange Man Bad. She is a partisan.
@@sykat76channel-kx1ky that's where I ended up in '16.... Maybe a labor or workers party will be more effective in this crisis, or ideally a combination of green, socialist, and worker parties can combine and rally with one effective choice.... There's also the people's party...
Until moderates start to feel the pain nothing will change. They need some blood in the game before they start to vote for changing things for the better.
Exactly....all of them are just fronts for the Democratic Party....AOC and the others on "the Squad" are, despite all of the rhetoric, just mainstream Democrats now
If AOC is not a progressive champion then who the hell is? With this process of immediately writing off politicians when they do something we disagree with, I'm concerned that we'll be left with no leadership at all. I don't want progressives to continue to be complainers with no power so what's the move?
@@daveindezmenez Oh, I've been having some thoughts about AOC's remark about Pelosi being the mama bear of the Democratic party. In Grims fairytale about Goldielocks, the Mama Bear is the one who says "Kill her!" after Goldielocks sampled their Food and slept in their beds. Maybe it was not such an endearing term, after all. Could be AOC's little joke, that misfired badly. Or maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part.
David Thrasher Calling someone we don’t like mama bear isn’t even a slight negative, it’s 100% meaningless and shouldn’t be used to judge them at all. That’s the focus on rhetoric and symbolism that the Neolibs and idpol ppl have, we shouldn’t care about that at all. And rhetorically pandering to the huge portion of the party that yas kweens pelosi is probably smart. I don’t think AOC has been perfect, but she’s been just as good if not honestly better than bernie has been historically so far when it comes to what matters: policy. Partially that’s a symptom of how briefly she’s been there and maybe different aspects of her district, but bernie for example fought to get the f-35 program stationed in Vermont, voted for defense spending bills some years, and voted for resolutions that justified war, like the one condemning gaddafi. AOC so far hasn’t taken votes like that, though she probably will have to eventually. People like Dore know nothing about politics and are too lazy to learn about it. The level of purity and symbolic defiance in both rhetoric and votes that he demands is just clearly impossible and divorced from reality.
I have a powerful resentment stuck in my craw against the democrats and the only way I can get it out is to vote for Donald Trump in November. Bernie Sanders is as delusional as the DNC if he thinks I will listen to him and vote for Joe Biden.
All options are on the table.....as far as I am concerned BOTH parties are corrupt and unresponsive to the needs of most Americans..... given those facts I might end up voting for Trump because he might give me 15% of what I want while the Democrats give me 10%...sad but true
From "Feelin' the Bern" to feeling burnt. No way, José - voting for you is voting for all those things I don't want and nothing I do want. I get that with the status quo.
After throwing out Cenk for naughty words JD would be biggest hypocrites in the world if they supported Joe Biden. I stopped supporting JD after Kyle and Cenk left.
I feel like I have been fighting the same battle since my first presidential election in 1992.....I have come to the conclusion that "working within the Democratic Party" is a losing strategy.....
Wow, this girl is a great politician! Did you all see how she effortlessly skated around all those questions without ever giving a simple straight answer? Wow... this actually makes me a lot LESS enthusiastic about the whole "Justice" Democrats thing.
It reminds me of that scene in Godfather 2 where Michael Corleone tells the senator: "My offer is this: nothing.". Unless they make some real threats, the establishment will not respond. Vote Jill Stein. It's the only way to improve anything in the long term. The alternative is to keep foundering.
She's right. Not point in focusing on the presidency. Let's get legislators who put forth a good agenda, strike down bad bills and block bad court picks.
Please have Shahid Buttar on. He is challenging Pelosi and he is important if we want to actually have change. Getting Shahid elected will be a major flag to the establishment that we are done taking their sh*t and we will take them down one by one if they don't get in line with the people needs and also stop taking money from corporations and billionaires.
Will the greatest contribution of the Millennials be a 100% increase in opinions and slogans? This is a generation that grew up thinking everyone else was born to cater to them.
@AQuietNight na That’s the boomers. The boomers inherited a great economy. After they came into into power, every generation after them has done worse economically. That’s 3 generations(Gen X, millennials, Gen Z). Gen Z now has it even worse than even millennials. All of this is documented. A generation-the boomers- who has selfishly sacrificed all the generations after it. This is what I would call selfishness and entitlement.
Time to play small ball then aargh. Where is the list of comprehensive list of justice candidates??? We need to get them seated in November. At all levels. But we need to know who to vote for.
Anyone who still believes the Democrapic Party can be reformed from within needs to be treated by a team of Viennese specialists. Justice Democrats should change their name to Justice Americans and put their considerable energies into changing the election system to some form of instant-runoff. I think they would find allies among both left- and right-leaning alternative political parties and NGOs. There are 22 states that allow for some form of citizen initiative. Start with those states. Without meaningful competition, our two-party duopoly will NEVER be responsive to the needs of the bottom 90%. NEVER.
Now this is someone intelligent with principles and integrity. This is the "next AOC" type of individual we need. Hope to see more of her in the future.
Oldest Millennial is 39..that means the youngest GenX is 40..GenX was small but not insignificant. I seriously cant believe how much we are over looked. You would think Millennials would recognize the Generation of Rage Against the Machine are their strongest allies and have been in this class war forever.
She didn't answer the final question "Will you vote for Biden?". The went on to skirt the question. That means she'll take a knee. It's a yes or no question.
It is not Bernie, it is Us ! The Movement can continue without Bernie ! Bernie brought our voices together now is our time to speak up and fight ! I Hope you dance !
We need Bernie to be brave, break away from the establishment ( BIDEN), come right out and say to the movement, do not vote for BIDEN unless he pivots left. PERIOD! BE BRAVE BERNIE, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE CORPORATE SELLOUTS. YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE!
Drives me nuts when anyone mentioned Ayanna Pressley and progressive in the same breathe. I think her politics would come as a surprise to everyone if they would look past her association with the squad. Ideologically, they are completely different.
Oh my... And just like that Sagaar destroyed all her grandstanding of "Not endorsement" by saying... look, you are going to vote for him anyway, so... you've already given up your leverage... and she's like... ............ yea. She should have come out with an ultimatum. Give us the VP slot or we will tell people we won't vote Joe. That's all the leverage they had, and they gave it up. They just don't have the guts or courage to say, "Give us what we want or you are getting nothing."
Im 66 yrs old and am glad to know there is a generation out there to carry on. I sorta guess we might have accomplished things in the 60's, but beware: do not stop pressing on for equanimity
I will no longer be guilt tripped for my vote.
Vote for Joe or I will let him grope you and make you play with his hair leg.
@@James-vk5ov Access to someone leg is a great opportunity to stop from running - if you know where to apply the proper amount of force.
The Justice Democrats endorsing an establishment candidate defeats the purpose of Justice Democrats in my view.
Did she just say Elizabeth Warren?!?! Alright I’m out
Yep. And talked about Trump being way worse than Hillary Clinton? I've always liked Rojas but feels like another damn sell out. Wake up people we've been totally had. Again. Get pissed people. If you're not then you're a sheep.
Damage 🤣😂..they play too nice.
@@tobyfunk6858 Guys come one ... Trump is way worse than Hillary. The way Trump has gutted the EPA, socially catered white nationalists, and stacked the courts with conservatives is more devastating to progressives than the neoliberalism Hillary would've practiced.
@@tobyfunk6858 What good is getting mad going to do again? You are all talk!
Justice democrats aren't led by Kyle and Cenk like they should be.thats all I need to know. If she had any integrity she would work with or for Kyle and/or Cenk right now, I am not interested in what she has to say, agree that no one should vote Biden though.
A master class in dodging a question
Except we all see it, so how masterful is it?
at this point i really only look forward to seeing biden lose to trump
Me too. The debates are going to be HILARIOUS. I just hope it isnt worthless skype call crap.
Same here
Yes, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
@Mark Johhson We get the leaders we deserve.
@TheEsotericZebra Well, when the democratic party turns its back on a large portion of people, how can they be expected to vote for the democratic candidate?
That "swinging pendulum" has been stuck to the right for decades.
it is encouraging and refreshing to see different groups standing by their principles and not simply giving in to the false choices that the 2 party system is trying to feed us.
Exactly, no more top down, bottom up from now on.
This gives me hope! So much better than watching the constant Bernie blaming in some interviews. Brings my anxiety level down.
@@kathyacouch Bernie is at fault for why he lost though and why trump will get re elected. a complete coward that cares more about his good friend Joe Biden than he does us.
"false choices"? What false choices? The next president is either going to be Trump or Biden. There's absolutely nothing false about that.
@@Bramble451 they're basically mirror images of each other who don't want to help average Americans. That's why they're "false."
Alexandra is very naive. She'll soon learn the hard way.
Bernie didn't capitalize on his position when he had immense bargaining power. Early on he gave up when he said blue no matter who. Joe OPPOSES the same policies that drew me to support Bernie. Think I'll sit this one out
me too.
Same here
Oh my gosh have you guys realized how POWERFUL you guys are? You're at least 1/3rd of the entire democratic party! Bernie has failed you but that doesn't mean you have to capitulate! Use your collective bargaining and voting power! Don't let the DNC trick you into thinking you're helpless!
@@malimillions true. use that power to get republicans to do something, trump would love to deal a blow to democrats.
Don't sit out, we need you, vote Green! With just 5% of the vote we get Federal funding and a chance to break the two party system!
So basically "Blah, blah, blah blah ...yes of course we'll vote for Joe cause Orange Man Bad" 🙄
So you again didn't understood anything. Brain-dead? Real trumpist.
@@jusupdjidjimidjimilovic3677 Who are you talking to? Me? I am not a "Trumpist" I am to the left of the Justice Dems you dolt. In what way am I wrong? She endlessly dissembled and blathered bit the kernel of the question that matters underneath it all is that yes, of course they will still be supporting / voting for Biden even if they get ZERO concessions from him because Orange Man Bad. She is a partisan.
nope
Never Biden! What do people not understand about these words.
Never Biden! How is that not comprehendible?
I too was once naive.
Bernie fixed all that for me. What a traitor prick.
They treated Cenk very unfairly.
Waiting for Mama Bear stickers at their online store...
Rising ought to discuss a third party initiative
After the bailout, "justice Democrats" is seeming more and more like an oxymoron...
Maybe we're in need of a new party...
Justice Democrats 2.0
Matt Angiono GREEN it’s a good option already established?
The Avengers Democrats
@@sykat76channel-kx1ky that's where I ended up in '16....
Maybe a labor or workers party will be more effective in this crisis, or ideally a combination of green, socialist, and worker parties can combine and rally with one effective choice....
There's also the people's party...
@@Wraught first they have to start avenging something....
So that also ends up seeming like an oxymoron...
Warren is not a progressive and anything she is involved in I will vote against.
100 percent I agree with you
That's really dumb. If she came out with a ubi plan, or whatever something you really cared about you would still vote against it?
Kinda wanna see her debate trump though that would be fun and funny
@@salientbox would I trust her to implement it?
@Steve Fortuna what does Dr Connell West teach?
(genuine question)
Until moderates start to feel the pain nothing will change. They need some blood in the game before they start to vote for changing things for the better.
very good point.
Why do u suppose the dems want to shut everything down? How would that benefit them?
"You can compromise on issues but you never compromise on principles." - MLK.
"I'm Joe Biden and I have forgot this message."
Not true! He stands for his principles of protecting the status quo consistantly!
Good for them, I was skeptical of Justice Dems as of late for playing ball with the establishment
you should still be, this is a con job
Exactly....all of them are just fronts for the Democratic Party....AOC and the others on "the Squad" are, despite all of the rhetoric, just mainstream Democrats now
'So we can get more AOCs'. As Dore says, why fall in with corporatists when you don't take their cash.
We don't need the kind of AOC that AOC has become - the kind who takes "Mama Bear's" advice and puts party loyalty over principles.
@@daveindezmenez AOC is at least progress Biden is worse than Obama(although less cunning) and will need to be pushed hard to get concessions from.
If AOC is not a progressive champion then who the hell is? With this process of immediately writing off politicians when they do something we disagree with, I'm concerned that we'll be left with no leadership at all. I don't want progressives to continue to be complainers with no power so what's the move?
@@daveindezmenez Oh, I've been having some thoughts about AOC's remark about Pelosi being the mama bear of the Democratic party. In Grims fairytale about Goldielocks, the Mama Bear is the one who says "Kill her!" after Goldielocks sampled their Food and slept in their beds. Maybe it was not such an endearing term, after all. Could be AOC's little joke, that misfired badly. Or maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part.
David Thrasher Calling someone we don’t like mama bear isn’t even a slight negative, it’s 100% meaningless and shouldn’t be used to judge them at all. That’s the focus on rhetoric and symbolism that the Neolibs and idpol ppl have, we shouldn’t care about that at all. And rhetorically pandering to the huge portion of the party that yas kweens pelosi is probably smart. I don’t think AOC has been perfect, but she’s been just as good if not honestly better than bernie has been historically so far when it comes to what matters: policy. Partially that’s a symptom of how briefly she’s been there and maybe different aspects of her district, but bernie for example fought to get the f-35 program stationed in Vermont, voted for defense spending bills some years, and voted for resolutions that justified war, like the one condemning gaddafi. AOC so far hasn’t taken votes like that, though she probably will have to eventually. People like Dore know nothing about politics and are too lazy to learn about it. The level of purity and symbolic defiance in both rhetoric and votes that he demands is just clearly impossible and divorced from reality.
I've never seen so many Democrats not endorse the nominee in my life.
That last question was a yes or no question. Too much spin.
I have a powerful resentment stuck in my craw against the democrats and the only way I can get it out is to vote for Donald Trump in November. Bernie Sanders is as delusional as the DNC if he thinks I will listen to him and vote for Joe Biden.
All options are on the table.....as far as I am concerned BOTH parties are corrupt and unresponsive to the needs of most Americans..... given those facts I might end up voting for Trump because he might give me 15% of what I want while the Democrats give me 10%...sad but true
Electoral politics are a dead end. Work and payment strikes are the way to go.
Just shouting at someone doesn’t get you anything, especially when there’s no evidence that you have the support you think you have at the ballot box.
Flip the Senate. That should be our power move.
From "Feelin' the Bern" to feeling burnt. No way, José - voting for you is voting for all those things I don't want and nothing I do want. I get that with the status quo.
What if Biden somehow chose Bernie as his running mate; would you consider voting for the ticket then? I would consider it. What do you think, sir?
@@chuckhooten1780 I would, don't think it'll happen
Seeing her refuse to answer Saagar's question three times, shows me she's definitely got a future in Politics
Bernie...you should have listened to the kids. This is how you play it. Just donated to Justice Democrats. Done giving to Bernie.
3:50 sagaars question and that patheic responce, is all you need to know about this once promising group
Just say YES OR NO
Fight On!
I’m never backing another presidential candidate who’s not a Aggressive Progressive. I feel like Bernie Sanders robbed me without a gun.
They will just tell you what you want to hear and do what they want to do. Letters are as worthless as used toilet paper.
Im just tired of empty promises, from either sides. Its getting exhausting at this point but thats the game...
After throwing out Cenk for naughty words JD would be biggest hypocrites in the world if they supported Joe Biden. I stopped supporting JD after Kyle and Cenk left.
Really enjoyed hearing Alex speak. Young intelligence and passionate- gives me hope that there are bright minds like hers working on our behalf.
I feel like I have been fighting the same battle since my first presidential election in 1992.....I have come to the conclusion that "working within the Democratic Party" is a losing strategy.....
Yep they're going to hold their breath til they get what they want.
Brilliant political strategy.
Wow, this girl is a great politician! Did you all see how she effortlessly skated around all those questions without ever giving a simple straight answer?
Wow... this actually makes me a lot LESS enthusiastic about the whole "Justice" Democrats thing.
Alexandra answers questions like a politician. I have little hope they will accomplish what they are aiming for.
"I'm here to remind people..."
OK. 😕
It reminds me of that scene in Godfather 2 where Michael Corleone tells the senator: "My offer is this: nothing.". Unless they make some real threats, the establishment will not respond. Vote Jill Stein. It's the only way to improve anything in the long term. The alternative is to keep foundering.
Stein isn't running this year. Hawkins is.
She's right. Not point in focusing on the presidency. Let's get legislators who put forth a good agenda, strike down bad bills and block bad court picks.
Please have Shahid Buttar on. He is challenging Pelosi and he is important if we want to actually have change. Getting Shahid elected will be a major flag to the establishment that we are done taking their sh*t and we will take them down one by one if they don't get in line with the people needs and also stop taking money from corporations and billionaires.
Do not trust any of those people.
Why is it so impossible that out of the millions in the progressive movement to run someone independant in a new progressive party . NOW!!!!!!!!!
Will the greatest contribution of the Millennials be a 100% increase in opinions
and slogans?
This is a generation that grew up thinking everyone else was born to cater to them.
@AQuietNight na That’s the boomers. The boomers inherited a great economy. After they came into into power, every generation after them has done worse economically. That’s 3 generations(Gen X, millennials, Gen Z). Gen Z now has it even worse than even millennials.
All of this is documented. A generation-the boomers- who has selfishly sacrificed all the generations after it. This is what I would call selfishness and entitlement.
Time to play small ball then aargh. Where is the list of comprehensive list of justice candidates??? We need to get them seated in November. At all levels. But we need to know who to vote for.
Solidarity.
term limits...........................
Stand your ground! We are all counting on you.
Saagar: "Got it. Yep. Got it. Yep."
You want my votes, fight for my rights and ideas. Green Party 2020
Anyone who still believes the Democrapic Party can be reformed from within needs to be treated by a team of Viennese specialists. Justice Democrats should change their name to Justice Americans and put their considerable energies into changing the election system to some form of instant-runoff. I think they would find allies among both left- and right-leaning alternative political parties and NGOs. There are 22 states that allow for some form of citizen initiative. Start with those states. Without meaningful competition, our two-party duopoly will NEVER be responsive to the needs of the bottom 90%. NEVER.
Why are they letting this woman babble away incoherently talking in pointless circles?
Exactly what I was thinking... Saagar asked her a direct question there near the end, and it's just endless drivell...
None of this would happen under Biden either.
respect for having so many younger people on this program. the ones who will inherit this madness
She's great, strong and clear thinking. Love it!
Now this is someone intelligent with principles and integrity. This is the "next AOC" type of individual we need. Hope to see more of her in the future.
If both parties give me nothing, then they don't get my vote. I have been offered nothing.
"...aiight, Imma head out..."
Oldest Millennial is 39..that means the youngest GenX is 40..GenX was small but not insignificant. I seriously cant believe how much we are over looked. You would think Millennials would recognize the Generation of Rage Against the Machine are their strongest allies and have been in this class war forever.
Yes, yes, YESSSSSS!
HERES THE DEAL: 1/2 to 1/3 of the REAL HARD CORE PROGRESSIVES WILL NOT VITE JOE WITHOUT SERIOUS POWER CONCESSIONS WITHOUT THEM JOE LOOSES SO......?
She didn't answer the final question "Will you vote for Biden?".
The went on to skirt the question.
That means she'll take a knee.
It's a yes or no question.
Brilliant analysis. Principled, progressive/conservative/populist politics. No caveats.
Who woulda thunk it!
“Im here to remind you that this pendulum swinging back and forth with the presidency is important”
I think that’s the fkn problem!
I'm 53...long time leftist. Totally agree with Alexandra and what she said.
4 years of a Biden presidency would be devastating.
Civil disobedience! This country's young people know what needs to be done , it's just a matter of time , Lets hope to god they have enough time .
lol she thinks a letter will do anything.
It is not Bernie, it is Us ! The Movement can continue without Bernie ! Bernie brought our voices together now is our time to speak up and fight ! I Hope you dance !
We need Bernie to be brave, break away from the establishment ( BIDEN), come right out and say to the movement, do not vote for BIDEN unless he pivots left. PERIOD! BE BRAVE BERNIE, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE CORPORATE SELLOUTS. YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE!
Justice Democrats? LOL ok
Sad that Jessica Cisneros lost, but Morgan Harpers race is still on here in Ohio.
Blah blah blah. All I have to say is NEW PARTY!!!
This poor women is in denial. Has no clue.
A task force is like giving your little brother the controller that isn't plugged in.... lol
I'm 53 and Biden hasn't earned my vote yet either.
Wow this kid is clueless
Blah blah b frickin blah..
Kyle Kulinski is like 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️..
Rejoin JD and fight the right way.
There all liars.
Justice Democrats need to walk. DSA is.
i would like to know what school she went to ?????????
Drives me nuts when anyone mentioned Ayanna Pressley and progressive in the same breathe. I think her politics would come as a surprise to everyone if they would look past her association with the squad. Ideologically, they are completely different.
This young lady communicates her thoughts 1000% better than Trump and Bush combined
Yeah!!! They have this 75 year old man's support.
You would get the same thing as Trump, if Biden was in the White House.
Oh my... And just like that Sagaar destroyed all her grandstanding of "Not endorsement" by saying... look, you are going to vote for him anyway, so... you've already given up your leverage... and she's like... ............ yea.
She should have come out with an ultimatum. Give us the VP slot or we will tell people we won't vote Joe. That's all the leverage they had, and they gave it up.
They just don't have the guts or courage to say, "Give us what we want or you are getting nothing."
Who cares what Biden promises? Trump will mop the floor with him either way. (no I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm a realist)
Im 66 yrs old and am glad to know there is a generation out there to carry on. I sorta guess we might have accomplished things in the 60's, but beware: do not stop pressing on for equanimity
what did Biden say to the youth voters? "Give me a frikken break!!"
Oh to be so young and full of misdirected vigor again ... 🌈🤦♀️🤷♀️💅🏻
The leverage of a task force is exactly zero.
Biden offers me nothing, so I won't vote for him. It's that simple.
if you keep voting for the marginally lesser evil no matter what, you'll never have anything else to vote for but evil.
For now? How about ever!
Jimmy. Dore.
Jimmy. Dore.
It's time Bernie gets back into this election as an independent candidate.