It only take into account power up/down, offence level advantage and coin power up/down - paralysis. Effects from skills such as Outis seven association power down and Heathcliff/Don coin power up are ignored in calculation. Also effects from passives and EGOs are also ignored
@@astraarcfunny how everyone when moving from ruina to limbus praised the new system of clash predictions for not having to calculate everything in head or with a notebook only to find out notebook is still required sometimes
I mean Limbus' battle system is way easier than LoR. Even if the prediction is off, you can tell you should have higher chance pretty easily. Just that sometimes minus coin enemies (and sinners) will trick the system because it only takes account on first clash.
yeah it doesnt count conditional coin power buffs so like quick supression and his s2 dont show properly and neither does rip space, however it does count the coin power up status, conditional base power, and resonance bonuses which youve probably noticed if youve used liu ishmael. however even without unknown variables it can still say that its impossible or ur dominating when thats not true, so really you should be paying more attention to stuff like ur sanity and how many clashes youd have to lose for it to be impossible to win and how many coins youd need to win an etc in your head. it often says ur dominating even if your base power isnt higher than their max but if you still lost one of the 5% and they rolled all heads the first clash you wouldnt be able to win anymore, and similarly if an enemy with a single coin skill with low base power has relatively high sanity like 30ish and you have like -20 sp with i can cook anything it will say its impossible even though u basically have 4 chances for them to just roll tails which isnt that unlikely also conditional base power also includes the lowering of enemy base power for all of 7 section outis's skills, idk why the other commenter thought that it doesnt take it into account when its really obvious in certain fights like the first turns of the dongbaek fight
Another thing the clash prediction system fails to notice is how losing coins with negative coins actively improves the chance for a move to hit. Just look at how good N sinclair is, even at positive sanity!
The goggles do work though, they just give 50% increase in offense level and not 5 final power, for some reason they still haven't fixed the icon for the buff being incorrect. If it wasn't working, then Don would've only dealt ~719 damage instead of ~780. (Also, did you not have the second starlight damage buff when you were taking this footage? Math only makes sense if you didn't have it yet, and if you did, I will distort and try to do the math all over again)
Goggles don't apply offensive level up buff, but it gives 5 offensive level literally. Same for red order, revolver, etc. Evidence of this is that the power when they match is 31+1(power up)+2(level bonus)=34. This is because there was a difference of 10~14 in their offensive level. We can assume that Don's level at this time had increased from 48 to 53.
@@mw9981 If they just gave 5 offense level, it would have been 748(isn't enough to kill, even) damage in total, not 781. Math only makes sense if it's a 50% increase.
Game's just trolling, it isn't actually 1100% damage increase. Math is something something(1+1(Sin res.)+1(Damage Res)+0.15(Obs. lvl)+0.03(1 clash)+0.568(Difference in Off vs Def))х(1+0.2(Hong Lu Pas.)+0.2(Rodion Pas.)+0.6(Buff from the tipsy)), which is ~749% increase. Since the whole roll value of the attack is 100, that's 749 damage, +16 rupture damage, that's 765, close enough to the actual damage value(I only now remembered resonance, too lazy to calculate further(oh and also starlight buffs, if they have them activated)) xd
+1100% means "if you deal minimum damage, it's 12 times the minimum total value." In this case, "If all coins are tails by any chance , you will deal 60 damage." In short, this value is calculated from the actual damage, not a multiplier to the damage This math count some buffs. For example, If damage goes from 1 to 2 by power up 1, it's +100%. If 1 to 1.3 by damage up 3, it's ±0% because 1.3 is rounded down to 1 in practice. Power makes this value unnaturally large, especially in skills with low minimum value like space rip sorry if my English is bad
Rip space exchanges 10 charge (or 20% hp if less than 10 charge) for +5 coin power. Making each coin go from a measly 1 to 6. So without any "final skill power" buffs it normally has 31 coin power if all land head. Hope this help!
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The weakest Rip Space
Very
R.I.P. space
I definitely need to get more sleep cause I read that as "Rip Sauce"
Yea its hopeless...for the poor fairy gentleman that is 😔. Man just wanted to share a drink with you and you annihilated him smh
I have a question... how long are abnormalities willy wonkas. Because want to be "enjoying" it
i feel like the game doesnt register the additional buff rip space gets from 10 charges
It only take into account power up/down, offence level advantage and coin power up/down - paralysis.
Effects from skills such as Outis seven association power down and Heathcliff/Don coin power up are ignored in calculation. Also effects from passives and EGOs are also ignored
@@astraarcfunny how everyone when moving from ruina to limbus praised the new system of clash predictions for not having to calculate everything in head or with a notebook only to find out notebook is still required sometimes
I mean Limbus' battle system is way easier than LoR.
Even if the prediction is off, you can tell you should have higher chance pretty easily. Just that sometimes minus coin enemies (and sinners) will trick the system because it only takes account on first clash.
yeah it doesnt count conditional coin power buffs so like quick supression and his s2 dont show properly and neither does rip space, however it does count the coin power up status, conditional base power, and resonance bonuses which youve probably noticed if youve used liu ishmael. however even without unknown variables it can still say that its impossible or ur dominating when thats not true, so really you should be paying more attention to stuff like ur sanity and how many clashes youd have to lose for it to be impossible to win and how many coins youd need to win an etc in your head. it often says ur dominating even if your base power isnt higher than their max but if you still lost one of the 5% and they rolled all heads the first clash you wouldnt be able to win anymore, and similarly if an enemy with a single coin skill with low base power has relatively high sanity like 30ish and you have like -20 sp with i can cook anything it will say its impossible even though u basically have 4 chances for them to just roll tails which isnt that unlikely
also conditional base power also includes the lowering of enemy base power for all of 7 section outis's skills, idk why the other commenter thought that it doesnt take it into account when its really obvious in certain fights like the first turns of the dongbaek fight
Another thing the clash prediction system fails to notice is how losing coins with negative coins actively improves the chance for a move to hit.
Just look at how good N sinclair is, even at positive sanity!
"Never tell me the odds."
A precise move.
A precise move
A wise decision.
An ideal option
a selected and specific movement of the mind and body
The goggles do work though, they just give 50% increase in offense level and not 5 final power, for some reason they still haven't fixed the icon for the buff being incorrect. If it wasn't working, then Don would've only dealt ~719 damage instead of ~780.
(Also, did you not have the second starlight damage buff when you were taking this footage? Math only makes sense if you didn't have it yet, and if you did, I will distort and try to do the math all over again)
yea I'm missing the +2 offense level and the +8 more damage dealt. Slowly grinding the right side for the stagger bar removal.
Goggles don't apply offensive level up buff, but it gives 5 offensive level literally.
Same for red order, revolver, etc.
Evidence of this is that the power when they match is 31+1(power up)+2(level bonus)=34.
This is because there was a difference of 10~14 in their offensive level.
We can assume that Don's level at this time had increased from 48 to 53.
Ah i tought i was doing something wrong when i go all out on charge stuff and still didn't proc the Goggles.
@@mw9981 If they just gave 5 offense level, it would have been 748(isn't enough to kill, even) damage in total, not 781. Math only makes sense if it's a 50% increase.
Alt title: charge enjoyer ignores chance and logic and killed a redditor
This is the same as auto resolved from Total war games. "Crushing defeat. It's not wrong but FOR WHO?"
Total war mention on a limbus video?
Like a good gambler said..
"Its all or nothin'"
what the actual fuck just happened
I know lunar memory is extremely broken, but what math led to 11 times damage?
The damage buff passive from the boss... I think
Game's just trolling, it isn't actually 1100% damage increase.
Math is something something(1+1(Sin res.)+1(Damage Res)+0.15(Obs. lvl)+0.03(1 clash)+0.568(Difference in Off vs Def))х(1+0.2(Hong Lu Pas.)+0.2(Rodion Pas.)+0.6(Buff from the tipsy)), which is ~749% increase. Since the whole roll value of the attack is 100, that's 749 damage, +16 rupture damage, that's 765, close enough to the actual damage value(I only now remembered resonance, too lazy to calculate further(oh and also starlight buffs, if they have them activated)) xd
+1100% means "if you deal minimum damage, it's 12 times the minimum total value."
In this case, "If all coins are tails by any chance , you will deal 60 damage."
In short, this value is calculated from the actual damage, not a multiplier to the damage
This math count some buffs.
For example, If damage goes from 1 to 2 by power up 1, it's +100%.
If 1 to 1.3 by damage up 3, it's ±0% because 1.3 is rounded down to 1 in practice.
Power makes this value unnaturally large, especially in skills with low minimum value like space rip
sorry if my English is bad
@@mw9981 No worries, It was perfectly understandable and pretty well explained
The hard dungeon kicked my ass
Weakest Charge abuser vs strongest Poise warrior 😔 ✊
lol
Oof this did not age well 💀
with the appearance of BL Mersault… yes this does not age well
kid named kimsault:
"Mersault, change the meta please"
"Yes, Manager."
Most balanced rip space in limbussy company
not so hopeless now
FG: Damn that's hard..
But sorry mine high rolls
Rolls the tail*
A precise move.
space: ripped
that: taken
memory: lunar
Now imagine Warp Don with Uptie 4 😮
Yup 798 damage from rip space and I could get higher in the right circumstances
When the Hopeless clash wins and the Dominating clash loses
0:04 how did you get your EGOs to look like that?
that was the old ui when selecting ego's and I'm pretty sure you can't change it or reverse it back
i could watch this forever
Still here.
really rocking that twoh infront of the fountain
@@EightySixthFunamuseaFan Peak.
Its hopeless
(For the enemy)
Never let them know your next move
ah yes
THE FUNNY MORAL BOOST MAN
where you purposly lose clash against someone with tipsy to pull an uno reverse
Through out the mirror dungeon and the railway. I alone, the rip space one.
How do you get these % numbers shown?
Hopeless.. hopeless to lose
imagine don STILL found a way to lose the clash
Hopeless. It was the pov of thr blob.
+1433% dmg on sunshower abnormality but favored
“Hopeless” more like hopeful
Hollow technique: Purple
Dont buy no goggles from the gas station
‘HOPELESS’? NAH I’D 1100%
Don Quixote-
you killed him
UT4... Please...
feature.
can someone explain how she got 20 coin power i don't have any warp identites
Rip space exchanges 10 charge (or 20% hp if less than 10 charge) for +5 coin power. Making each coin go from a measly 1 to 6. So without any "final skill power" buffs it normally has 31 coin power if all land head. Hope this help!