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I think you hit the nail on the head. A big mistake people make is NOT placing enough outposts. They're a great way to grab available resources and to act as a defensive point on the map.
Yeah until now I have only placed an outpost to eventually turn it into a city. I hadn't realized how claims worked! I also did not realize you could release your own cities as vassals That was really good to learn!
Honestly it feels too OP. Boxing someone with outposts while your actual territory is so far away is counter-intuitive. So, other party, by just expanding normally, are the bad guys because you generate more grievances as you expand your cities that way. Amount of grievances should depend on how far it is from your main territory. So placing an outpost in someone backyard should make you a bad guy, and not other way around as it is now.
It does make you the bad guy when you do that to someone. You could also use those grievances to declare a just war to remove them from your territory. Every war doesn't need to be nation ending. You can get some decent gains from short ones if you go in with a plan.
"Hey man, remember that time I settled a city right at your doorstep?" "Yes, I'm still pissed, mate." "I'll give you 300 gold to make it up to you." "Ok. I forgive you. Will you forgive me that time I called you a poopie-head? I'll give you 50 gold." "Nah, you called me a poopie-head, I'm going to war with you!"
This video is really helpful! Thanks, bro. Every time I get a good handle on the mechanics of this game I learn something new to bring it to another level.
Just a tip I learned the hard way. You can only buy 2 grievances every 5 turns from each faction. So you might want to do it sooner than later. Also you can build teleporters on outposts which can be used as really good locations to mount an assault to aid in defense.
Thank you. You did a good job explaining a confusing game mechanic (war justification and declaring war). I was a bit confused by your explanation of this on your earlier video. This video cleared that up.
The more I heard about the need to grab outposts, the more I thought how tedious a gameplay loop that sounded. Once I started actually doing it I found it made for a much more consistent play style. The main issue with not claiming outposts is that if you don’t, the AI will probably settle next to you and fuck up your expansion plans. Setting up 3-4 outposts around your starting 2 cities gives you so much room to expand to 20 turns down the line.
I've been enjoying the strat of initially playing super tall and going for early free city vassals. Early game focus on scouting, usually only put down a couple of outposts unless I see someone forward settling me like the AI loves to do. I'll put them in choke points if possible, otherwise I just use outposts to cap ancient wonders and potentially contested magical materials, using it to cap iron/gold/food/etc deposits isn't worth it IMHO better to invest in units early on than to go too hard on the outposts since each one takes 10 gold per turn to maintain. Later game they become really effective for frontline heals and strategic teleportation circles tho I've been having really good success by focusing on one main city and dumping imperium into more pops. Pump out extra two scouts in first two turns and send all three in diff directions to locate players and free cities. Free cities that start at war are a bonus, easy to steamroll them if you stack society traits for military. Early game is FC Pokemon; I've been getting 3 or 4 early vassals every match thru using both diplomacy and conquest (assuming regular FC spawns) I rarely found cities from the ground up now. I declare war on who I can get away with, but also find good success in selectively pissing off individual players so they declare war on me. It takes a lot of resources and time to ramp up, so I strategize around how strong my neighbours are. I prefer going diplomatic with players farther away from me so I can wait for my immediate neighbours to pour their resources into their cities and expansion so I can roll through with my deathstacks and absorb the best ones and vassalize the rest I have one city and a big army + you have multiple cities and a smaller military = I have a big army and multiple cities This doesn't work as well if you found your cities pretty close to each other, but then you're kinda hamstringing yourself as you start expanding and limiting the number of provinces you can annex If you focus on one main city + vassalizing FCs for early thru midgame you can hit a nice timing where the wide players' investments aren't quite paying off so they can't float a bunch of units, and due to spending gold on scaling multiple cities they'll be behind you in terms of prod/research/draft. Basically when you hit T3 most ppl are still T1 - T2 so if you build your unit comps right you can absolutely steamroll anyone who went eco vs. army Idea isn't to eliminate other players initially, but to grab their forward settlements and vassalize them to cripple their eco scaling into the late game. Even if they have a big military it'll be split between their cities and likely other engagements, so deathstack blitzkrieg tactics work great for sniping frontier cities (especially since they're usually much less fortified than throne or free cities) Btw T2 Order tome has a spell called "Covenant of the Faith" which you can cast on your vassals to generate 5 imperium (info text says it's 10 but in game it's actually 5) per turn per vassal w/ a very modest mana upkeep. Game I just finished I was generating almost 200 imperium per turn (186 at highest) and that was with upkeep of a few T4 units. 50 of that was just from my ten vassals. If I wasn't paying upkeep I'd have been making over 200 imp per tick. If you really wanted to cheese it you could found a city, immediately release as vassal and then cast the spell. There's no cap on how many you can cast it on, the only limit is the mana upkeep (which I think is 5 mana per turn so basically a 1:1 mana to imp conversion lol) DISCLAIMER: The success of my approach probably depends on playstyle and build. I've found it works across most of my builds but I tend to build for tall eco, tech rush, and very aggressive conquest Latest win was with my most broken build yet lol. Order/Nature focus with T2/T3 (and maybe T4 lategame) Materium, and a dip into Mystic for Tome of Teleport. Faith builds are absolutely busted, especially with the High culture. Feudal can also work well with this, but Awakeners are an SSS+ class unit that no other culture can really match (Mystic Spellbreakers are the only thing comparable IMHO) I haven't been able to find a better stack than a shrine of smiting, two awakeners, and either two of your tankiest available frontline units (iron or golden golems work great for this) and a hero w/ faithful, or just three frontline units. Double shrines of smiting are even better, but 2x shrines per stack requires massive upkeep and isn't really necessary 3 stacks = 3 shrines of smiting and 15 faithful units. Due to the uncapped bonus damage it means you have three units with a no-cooldown 6-hex range single target attack that deals 45 fire and 45 spirit damage. Once a shrine of smiting hits Legend rank (super easy to max rank a stack with the Ascended Warriors spell from T4 Order tome btw) it gets Killing Momentum which means you get to use it twice if you kill a unit w/ the first smiting prayer blast. Unbelievably fucking OP lmao I haven't found anything else that even comes close to this powerful. Literally autoresolved my way through multiple endgame Chaos horde deathstacks on Brutal, barely taking damage let alone losses. By the time I got gold golems I could melt stacks of Legend rank mythic/T5/T4 units without even blinking lol
Thank you so much for this video! I have been enjoying my current playthrough, but never understood where, when, and why to establish outposts. Even more so, I have been using diplomacy very sparingly because I honestly didn't understand (or care to understand) it enough. This is the most helpful video I have probably seen since I started playing.
Some things I don't know with regards to this, and I don't think the game explains it: 1: If you set up an outpost and it generates food / production does anything actually happen to that? Does it go to the nearest city etc? Or does it just vanish into nothingness, so only gold / mana / research is worth it? 2: If you have a vassal, and they're generating imperium from wonders etc, do you get a cut of that imperium or is that not provided to you? Also, one strategy I'm not sure about early game is when do you want to send your hero out to create outposts to found cities / vassals? Do you do it immediately and let the army handle easy threats to clear nodes in your throne city, to get more resources early, or do you clear the nodes first and then go out to place outposts later - letting your hero get more experience early from fighting?
If you look at a city you will see food production and draft separated by a line from the other resources. That line is a good reminder or separator or what goods outposts can collect. Cities will collect both left and right Outposts will only collect things on right ... so mana gold research and if you can claim a wonder with one imperium. All food production and draft is lost until you upgrade the outpost to a city. If the tiles claimed would not be producing those anyways, nothing is lost. Good tip is to look for areas of the map where you can grab a gold vien adjacent to a mana or wonder. This outpost once built will generate 1 gold and be able to claim 10 mana or the wonder once cleared as opposed to costing you gold. This gives you friendly region far from home to heal and set up defenses in such as walls and watchtowers.
Thank you so much for explaining this mechanics! As a beginner to the series (mainly with 4x strategy titles) this will really help me figure out what to do with my playthrough. You got my sub, more power! 😎
Be cautious of getting into alliances. I was working towards making friends of most other factions, but then my biggest ally decided to declare war on literally every other faction on the map. Now all former friends are enemies, 2 vs 5... Also, plummeted from good straigth to evil. Oh well, diplomacy route down the drain, razing it is.
I completely ignore claims because the AI seems to as well. If they wanna fight about it I'll happily exploit a defensive war to take their cities for myself. 🤣 But seriously, literally every game I play, multiple AI go out of their way to found cities right in the middle of my shit. It makes me think of that urinal meme with like 10 empty urinals and the dude uses the one right next to the other guy hahaha. It's turn 10, CHILL.
thanks for the guide. the most important lesson for me here was that I can upgrade city cap empire power again... I thought it was a one time only upgrade and I finished 4 games with extra city penalty T.T
one question, if vasals give me up to 70% of their income, wouldnt that make them unable to do anything, since they are giving me most of their resources? would it be maybe wise to stop at like 20-30% so they have enough for themself? or it just says its giving me their income while their acutal income is not affected at all?
Question, I have alliances with two factions. The third faction everyone hates, has been denounced by everyone, I declare a justified war and none of my allies back me up and break their alliance with me? I’m a pure good build, with 7 vassals & two alliances. Wtf ?
I wish there was a governmental stance that triples the grievances for people planting a outpost in your immediate territory. Yeah there is rivalry but usually some unknown comes swooping in and throws down an outpost right next to your providence. You are like who the hell is this? Guess its war and I'm throwing down a outpost next to you to stage my troops.
Can you explain how founding cities with races other then your own effects things? Also for diplomacy, that guy that hates you for being Shadow and them Nature. Does that work both ways?
You're not an AI (I assume?) - So wheter that pisses you off or not is up to you to decide :D (You don't have a relation meter; The relationmeter is a way to decide what deals the AI will and will not accept (And as he explained, at what discounts, if any) :)
If you release a city as a vassal doesn't that reduce the number of heroes you can field since they're tied to your number of cities? And if you were already at the max number of heroes and then released a city wouldn't you start suffering penalties for going over your hero cap?
I think the only thing that the Hero cap effect is how many free heroes you get. If you go over the cap I believe its 30 gold a turn per hero over the cap.
There doesn't appear to be a hard hero cap. You get no upkeep cost on one hero per city with each hero above your cities number costing 30 gold. It's a soft cap that will tank your economy if you go overboard on heroes as 30 gold for a single unit is more than a full stack of T1 units upkeep.
@@thenoseplays2488 So if you released a city as a vassal while at max free heroes would one of your heroes start costing 30 gold? Also I believe there's a cost increase to recruit heroes when over your hero cap as well. I remember seeing it was 250 gold to recruit a basic level 1 hero when normally its only 150 gold.
I don't see any vids explaining weapons - example - Two - handed Vs 1 handed. It seems like 3 hits with 1 handed does more damange plus you can use mount AND a shield in some cases. Why use two handed?
i definitely can :) A lot of 2h weapons have charge, which gives that JUICY charge bonus, but you just really need to be strategic about it is the down side
I came here after pronouncing friendship with 3 dragon leaders, going broke and getting steamrolled by one of the other 3 dragons. I really don t get the choice why more firendships become increasingly expensive. But at least now i know.
This is how you clean house as a pure good force, let them make greivences then wipe them once theres no diplomatic or alignment penalties for whoopin em.
Not sure where I am with the game, I really do not want to do the battles, I don't enjoy them at all but do enjoy the exploring and following the story but with battles being such a big part its hard to fully enjoy the game.
U might need to get a good build for ur army battles. Some affinities and cultures don't mix well. My biggest tip to u is go with offense or defense and focus it. Offense with cheaper swarm units doing most of ur damage turn 2-3 Or high upkeep defense units that absorb and heal the damage while dishing out some damage. Defense one is the easiest, focus enchantments, tier 3 defense units, and buffs with healing. Can't go wrong. U won't be able to have large armies but ull have elite armies to win auto battles with.
I found myself constantly poor but I think maybe it's because I had too many units I don't know... I never had enough money to spend on declarations of friendship rivalry
How many full armies do you have? I'm on my current playthrough. And I probably have two stacks for every hero, a primary stack with best units and a support stack with Tier 1-3s. (Total of 8ish stacks) I control four cities and have five vassals. I only just recently realized that unit upkeep was more than just money that some units have imperium or magic upkeeps instead of money or alongside it. I'm suffering from spending too much imperium on unit upkeep I think. But I'm sure that varies A lot based on affinities.
@@cliffordohrnberger I think the difference is you have way more vassals than I do. I didn't realize how important they were so I only went around controlling my own. I have two vassals and the similar army
@@Weslykan also there are affinities that allow your unit upkeep to decrease. As well as having more cities for the income upkeep. So depending on your pace. You might need literally 6 cities before turn 80
Vassals are a great way to big rather then tall. They give u passive bonus mostly mana on junker ones to gold, knowledge, and mana on bigger ones. I'm doing underground rats playthrough and I have at least 10 vassals. Make outpost, turn it in city immediately, then convert to Vassal. If u do it right. Ull get refunded the imperium, have a good solid defense point to aggro ai armies, and be able to trade with them converting ur mana and gold to resources u need. Really helps Main mistake I made so far was splashing into shadow tier 3... u need the bottom tiers that give u souls to even use the higher tomes lol
Vassal joining a war is a bit too much said. After 60 hours of play now once I got any help during war from a vassal. Wish they would be more active or player would get more control over them.
I need to vent my frustration. The overworld AI in this game makes my blood boil and has caused me to uninstall the game after 40 hours. They can have as many cities as they want with no penalties. They resource cheat like they dont need resources at all. I had multiple free cities in my games have 8+ heros. The AI will shit out cities like they just took 5 laxatives. All along your border. And no one elses'. Unless the resource cheating and AI behavior be tweaked with a mod or option, I'm not playing the game because i no longer enjoy playing it.
Did you know you can get a distant claim on the comment section by placing a comment? On a more serious note: Defensive pacts obligate you to answer calls to defensive wars, or break the treaty. Alliances make all calls to war obligatory, but if an ally wins the game, you win too (and vice versa).
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I think you hit the nail on the head. A big mistake people make is NOT placing enough outposts. They're a great way to grab available resources and to act as a defensive point on the map.
Yeah until now I have only placed an outpost to eventually turn it into a city.
I hadn't realized how claims worked!
I also did not realize you could release your own cities as vassals That was really good to learn!
Honestly it feels too OP. Boxing someone with outposts while your actual territory is so far away is counter-intuitive. So, other party, by just expanding normally, are the bad guys because you generate more grievances as you expand your cities that way. Amount of grievances should depend on how far it is from your main territory. So placing an outpost in someone backyard should make you a bad guy, and not other way around as it is now.
It does make you the bad guy when you do that to someone. You could also use those grievances to declare a just war to remove them from your territory.
Every war doesn't need to be nation ending. You can get some decent gains from short ones if you go in with a plan.
i love them as perfectionist artisans, each outpost building makes me money ;3
"Hey man, remember that time I settled a city right at your doorstep?"
"Yes, I'm still pissed, mate."
"I'll give you 300 gold to make it up to you."
"Ok. I forgive you. Will you forgive me that time I called you a poopie-head? I'll give you 50 gold."
"Nah, you called me a poopie-head, I'm going to war with you!"
Really helpful explanation of 2 mechanics I wasn't using because I didn't quite understand them!
This video is really helpful! Thanks, bro. Every time I get a good handle on the mechanics of this game I learn something new to bring it to another level.
Just a tip I learned the hard way. You can only buy 2 grievances every 5 turns from each faction. So you might want to do it sooner than later. Also you can build teleporters on outposts which can be used as really good locations to mount an assault to aid in defense.
Thank you. You did a good job explaining a confusing game mechanic (war justification and declaring war). I was a bit confused by your explanation of this on your earlier video. This video cleared that up.
The more I heard about the need to grab outposts, the more I thought how tedious a gameplay loop that sounded. Once I started actually doing it I found it made for a much more consistent play style.
The main issue with not claiming outposts is that if you don’t, the AI will probably settle next to you and fuck up your expansion plans. Setting up 3-4 outposts around your starting 2 cities gives you so much room to expand to 20 turns down the line.
Outposts can be used to make a teleporter too…essential when going to war with cities far from your unit making cities
I've been enjoying the strat of initially playing super tall and going for early free city vassals. Early game focus on scouting, usually only put down a couple of outposts unless I see someone forward settling me like the AI loves to do. I'll put them in choke points if possible, otherwise I just use outposts to cap ancient wonders and potentially contested magical materials, using it to cap iron/gold/food/etc deposits isn't worth it
IMHO better to invest in units early on than to go too hard on the outposts since each one takes 10 gold per turn to maintain. Later game they become really effective for frontline heals and strategic teleportation circles tho
I've been having really good success by focusing on one main city and dumping imperium into more pops. Pump out extra two scouts in first two turns and send all three in diff directions to locate players and free cities. Free cities that start at war are a bonus, easy to steamroll them if you stack society traits for military. Early game is FC Pokemon; I've been getting 3 or 4 early vassals every match thru using both diplomacy and conquest (assuming regular FC spawns)
I rarely found cities from the ground up now. I declare war on who I can get away with, but also find good success in selectively pissing off individual players so they declare war on me. It takes a lot of resources and time to ramp up, so I strategize around how strong my neighbours are. I prefer going diplomatic with players farther away from me so I can wait for my immediate neighbours to pour their resources into their cities and expansion so I can roll through with my deathstacks and absorb the best ones and vassalize the rest
I have one city and a big army + you have multiple cities and a smaller military = I have a big army and multiple cities
This doesn't work as well if you found your cities pretty close to each other, but then you're kinda hamstringing yourself as you start expanding and limiting the number of provinces you can annex
If you focus on one main city + vassalizing FCs for early thru midgame you can hit a nice timing where the wide players' investments aren't quite paying off so they can't float a bunch of units, and due to spending gold on scaling multiple cities they'll be behind you in terms of prod/research/draft. Basically when you hit T3 most ppl are still T1 - T2 so if you build your unit comps right you can absolutely steamroll anyone who went eco vs. army
Idea isn't to eliminate other players initially, but to grab their forward settlements and vassalize them to cripple their eco scaling into the late game. Even if they have a big military it'll be split between their cities and likely other engagements, so deathstack blitzkrieg tactics work great for sniping frontier cities (especially since they're usually much less fortified than throne or free cities)
Btw T2 Order tome has a spell called "Covenant of the Faith" which you can cast on your vassals to generate 5 imperium (info text says it's 10 but in game it's actually 5) per turn per vassal w/ a very modest mana upkeep. Game I just finished I was generating almost 200 imperium per turn (186 at highest) and that was with upkeep of a few T4 units. 50 of that was just from my ten vassals. If I wasn't paying upkeep I'd have been making over 200 imp per tick. If you really wanted to cheese it you could found a city, immediately release as vassal and then cast the spell. There's no cap on how many you can cast it on, the only limit is the mana upkeep (which I think is 5 mana per turn so basically a 1:1 mana to imp conversion lol)
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The success of my approach probably depends on playstyle and build. I've found it works across most of my builds but I tend to build for tall eco, tech rush, and very aggressive conquest
Latest win was with my most broken build yet lol. Order/Nature focus with T2/T3 (and maybe T4 lategame) Materium, and a dip into Mystic for Tome of Teleport. Faith builds are absolutely busted, especially with the High culture. Feudal can also work well with this, but Awakeners are an SSS+ class unit that no other culture can really match (Mystic Spellbreakers are the only thing comparable IMHO)
I haven't been able to find a better stack than a shrine of smiting, two awakeners, and either two of your tankiest available frontline units (iron or golden golems work great for this) and a hero w/ faithful, or just three frontline units. Double shrines of smiting are even better, but 2x shrines per stack requires massive upkeep and isn't really necessary
3 stacks = 3 shrines of smiting and 15 faithful units. Due to the uncapped bonus damage it means you have three units with a no-cooldown 6-hex range single target attack that deals 45 fire and 45 spirit damage. Once a shrine of smiting hits Legend rank (super easy to max rank a stack with the Ascended Warriors spell from T4 Order tome btw) it gets Killing Momentum which means you get to use it twice if you kill a unit w/ the first smiting prayer blast. Unbelievably fucking OP lmao I haven't found anything else that even comes close to this powerful. Literally autoresolved my way through multiple endgame Chaos horde deathstacks on Brutal, barely taking damage let alone losses. By the time I got gold golems I could melt stacks of Legend rank mythic/T5/T4 units without even blinking lol
Thank you for the lessons. I finally figure out how to use "adept settler". It's not only one more city cap, but half price for making vassals. :)
Thank you so much for this video! I have been enjoying my current playthrough, but never understood where, when, and why to establish outposts. Even more so, I have been using diplomacy very sparingly because I honestly didn't understand (or care to understand) it enough. This is the most helpful video I have probably seen since I started playing.
Some things I don't know with regards to this, and I don't think the game explains it:
1: If you set up an outpost and it generates food / production does anything actually happen to that? Does it go to the nearest city etc? Or does it just vanish into nothingness, so only gold / mana / research is worth it?
2: If you have a vassal, and they're generating imperium from wonders etc, do you get a cut of that imperium or is that not provided to you?
Also, one strategy I'm not sure about early game is when do you want to send your hero out to create outposts to found cities / vassals?
Do you do it immediately and let the army handle easy threats to clear nodes in your throne city, to get more resources early, or do you clear the nodes first and then go out to place outposts later - letting your hero get more experience early from fighting?
If you look at a city you will see food production and draft separated by a line from the other resources. That line is a good reminder or separator or what goods outposts can collect.
Cities will collect both left and right
Outposts will only collect things on right ... so mana gold research and if you can claim a wonder with one imperium.
All food production and draft is lost until you upgrade the outpost to a city. If the tiles claimed would not be producing those anyways, nothing is lost.
Good tip is to look for areas of the map where you can grab a gold vien adjacent to a mana or wonder. This outpost once built will generate 1 gold and be able to claim 10 mana or the wonder once cleared as opposed to costing you gold. This gives you friendly region far from home to heal and set up defenses in such as walls and watchtowers.
Thank you so much for explaining this mechanics! As a beginner to the series (mainly with 4x strategy titles) this will really help me figure out what to do with my playthrough. You got my sub, more power! 😎
*these mechanics
I didn't know any of this and kinda everyone should know this if they are interested in learning this game. Good video!
I made industrial dwarfs im loving it. My cities have like 200 stability lol
So classic dwarves?
Wonder Architect trait allows to actually annex 2 provinces if one of them is an ancient wonder.
Be cautious of getting into alliances. I was working towards making friends of most other factions, but then my biggest ally decided to declare war on literally every other faction on the map. Now all former friends are enemies, 2 vs 5... Also, plummeted from good straigth to evil. Oh well, diplomacy route down the drain, razing it is.
It's why I rarely make alliances. At MOST a defensive pact. That way if they start a war, it''s on them
Great video, would love to see one on military explained and building explained 😂
Thank you for explaining grievances
I completely ignore claims because the AI seems to as well. If they wanna fight about it I'll happily exploit a defensive war to take their cities for myself. 🤣
But seriously, literally every game I play, multiple AI go out of their way to found cities right in the middle of my shit. It makes me think of that urinal meme with like 10 empty urinals and the dude uses the one right next to the other guy hahaha. It's turn 10, CHILL.
thanks for the guide. the most important lesson for me here was that I can upgrade city cap empire power again... I thought it was a one time only upgrade and I finished 4 games with extra city penalty T.T
As far as i can see, most npc faction dont care about getting grievances even when you declared friendship
Gimme that sweet, sweet knowledge
Another great one sparty. Keep them coming.
one question, if vasals give me up to 70% of their income, wouldnt that make them unable to do anything, since they are giving me most of their resources? would it be maybe wise to stop at like 20-30% so they have enough for themself? or it just says its giving me their income while their acutal income is not affected at all?
Big help! Thank you IS!
I was already dropping outposts on every Magic Material and next to every Ancient Wonder just for income. They are so cheap for what they do.
Thanks for the video
very informative
Question, I have alliances with two factions. The third faction everyone hates, has been denounced by everyone, I declare a justified war and none of my allies back me up and break their alliance with me? I’m a pure good build, with 7 vassals & two alliances. Wtf ?
I wish there was a governmental stance that triples the grievances for people planting a outpost in your immediate territory. Yeah there is rivalry but usually some unknown comes swooping in and throws down an outpost right next to your providence. You are like who the hell is this? Guess its war and I'm throwing down a outpost next to you to stage my troops.
Easiest solution is to wipe em out. 👍
Can you explain how founding cities with races other then your own effects things?
Also for diplomacy, that guy that hates you for being Shadow and them Nature. Does that work both ways?
You're not an AI (I assume?) - So wheter that pisses you off or not is up to you to decide :D
(You don't have a relation meter; The relationmeter is a way to decide what deals the AI will and will not accept (And as he explained, at what discounts, if any) :)
@@Sharran2000 I think they mean if you share affinities with the ai do you get a bonus and I think you do
@@ammarlalji5208 Ah, misunderstood - That makes much more sense.
Thank you for pointing that out :D
And yeah, you do ^^
If you release a city as a vassal doesn't that reduce the number of heroes you can field since they're tied to your number of cities? And if you were already at the max number of heroes and then released a city wouldn't you start suffering penalties for going over your hero cap?
I think the only thing that the Hero cap effect is how many free heroes you get. If you go over the cap I believe its 30 gold a turn per hero over the cap.
There doesn't appear to be a hard hero cap. You get no upkeep cost on one hero per city with each hero above your cities number costing 30 gold. It's a soft cap that will tank your economy if you go overboard on heroes as 30 gold for a single unit is more than a full stack of T1 units upkeep.
@@thenoseplays2488 So if you released a city as a vassal while at max free heroes would one of your heroes start costing 30 gold? Also I believe there's a cost increase to recruit heroes when over your hero cap as well. I remember seeing it was 250 gold to recruit a basic level 1 hero when normally its only 150 gold.
Yes, but the only reason you'd release a city as a vassal is if you were about to found/take a new city in its place.
I don't see any vids explaining weapons - example - Two - handed Vs 1 handed. It seems like 3 hits with 1 handed does more damange plus you can use mount AND a shield in some cases. Why use two handed?
i definitely can :) A lot of 2h weapons have charge, which gives that JUICY charge bonus, but you just really need to be strategic about it is the down side
I came here after pronouncing friendship with 3 dragon leaders, going broke and getting steamrolled by one of the other 3 dragons. I really don
t get the choice why more firendships become increasingly expensive. But at least now i know.
This video was so damn good I subscribed lol
This is how you clean house as a pure good force, let them make greivences then wipe them once theres no diplomatic or alignment penalties for whoopin em.
Not sure where I am with the game, I really do not want to do the battles, I don't enjoy them at all but do enjoy the exploring and following the story but with battles being such a big part its hard to fully enjoy the game.
U might need to get a good build for ur army battles. Some affinities and cultures don't mix well.
My biggest tip to u is go with offense or defense and focus it.
Offense with cheaper swarm units doing most of ur damage turn 2-3
Or high upkeep defense units that absorb and heal the damage while dishing out some damage.
Defense one is the easiest, focus enchantments, tier 3 defense units, and buffs with healing. Can't go wrong. U won't be able to have large armies but ull have elite armies to win auto battles with.
You can just use auto-resolve?
@@BahamutEx ofc, but the game atm is not that interesting in a way to support itself through without
I do wish dual wielding was a combat type
I created a Masters of the Universe race, inspired in He-man.
I ran into one of this expensionist ai, had the teach them a lesson for founding a city directly at my border, so, naturally, I wiped them out. 👍
I found myself constantly poor but I think maybe it's because I had too many units I don't know... I never had enough money to spend on declarations of friendship rivalry
How many full armies do you have? I'm on my current playthrough.
And I probably have two stacks for every hero, a primary stack with best units and a support stack with Tier 1-3s. (Total of 8ish stacks)
I control four cities and have five vassals.
I only just recently realized that unit upkeep was more than just money that some units have imperium or magic upkeeps instead of money or alongside it.
I'm suffering from spending too much imperium on unit upkeep I think.
But I'm sure that varies A lot based on affinities.
@@cliffordohrnberger I think the difference is you have way more vassals than I do. I didn't realize how important they were so I only went around controlling my own. I have two vassals and the similar army
@@Weslykan also there are affinities that allow your unit upkeep to decrease. As well as having more cities for the income upkeep. So depending on your pace. You might need literally 6 cities before turn 80
Vassals are a great way to big rather then tall. They give u passive bonus mostly mana on junker ones to gold, knowledge, and mana on bigger ones.
I'm doing underground rats playthrough and I have at least 10 vassals.
Make outpost, turn it in city immediately, then convert to Vassal.
If u do it right. Ull get refunded the imperium, have a good solid defense point to aggro ai armies, and be able to trade with them converting ur mana and gold to resources u need. Really helps
Main mistake I made so far was splashing into shadow tier 3... u need the bottom tiers that give u souls to even use the higher tomes lol
I've mostly figured it out by now but yeah, the game does a really poor job explaining the diplomacy.
A topic not talked about: roads 😝
Vassal joining a war is a bit too much said. After 60 hours of play now once I got any help during war from a vassal. Wish they would be more active or player would get more control over them.
I need to vent my frustration. The overworld AI in this game makes my blood boil and has caused me to uninstall the game after 40 hours. They can have as many cities as they want with no penalties. They resource cheat like they dont need resources at all. I had multiple free cities in my games have 8+ heros. The AI will shit out cities like they just took 5 laxatives. All along your border. And no one elses'. Unless the resource cheating and AI behavior be tweaked with a mod or option, I'm not playing the game because i no longer enjoy playing it.
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On a more serious note:
Defensive pacts obligate you to answer calls to defensive wars, or break the treaty. Alliances make all calls to war obligatory, but if an ally wins the game, you win too (and vice versa).
Your nexus store is sold out.
how is that even possible? lol
Imagine this game with out a curser …. 😓fuck me…shit makes me lose my mind. 50 percent of xbox games or more desperately need a curser.
does anyone else think he sounds exactly like fightincowboy?
THAT IS SOME HIGH FUCKING PRIASE! I love FightinCowboy, he's my go to for all Soulsborne stuff!
Who?
Why my army become anmy?