@@burntrap6964 so who does Kong represent? The Vietcong? 🤣 Explain yourself. Which characters represent which factions? How exactly does it relate to Vietnam? How was the conflict pointless? You think it was a random conflict that happened for no reason? Do you know what pointless means? We just lying now? Did you just make the same mistake as the person you’re criticizing? 🤣
@@burntrap6964 you should know that your reply with a link is not showing up. TH-cam does not allow those. Regardless you’re still wrong to call it pointless. That’s just as reductive as the TH-camr saying it has no themes or commentary
I mean he admits G14 and K17 were the better films, so idk what you're talking about exactly. No film is exempt from any sort of criticism, no matter how good you think it is at all.
No Kong skull island is the best take on Kong cuz boy thank God they finally got rid of that stupid love story about Kong and a beautiful blonde girl have Kong climb the Empire State and have him killed and America 🇺🇸 the héroe yet again end of story done that too many times already and I’m glad they got rid of that stupid story line this is the best Kong ever so shut your mouth
@AdreilDiaz Do you even know what “take” means. It means opinion. he not talking about the movie in general.he says that cleaver rebooteds take on the movie is just wrong.
The reason why Godzilla didn’t fight any of the classic kaiju in 2014 is because legendary had to buy the kaiju but it wasn’t exactly cheap to do that.
People nowadays should keep their criticism to themselves it’s just very stupid it’s not gonna change the fact that most people gonna love the MonsterVerse either way.
KOTM 'failed' because Legendary paid serious $$$ for the rights for Rodan, Mothra & Ghidorah (along with their themes), & released the film close to End Game. Bitchass Disney then RE-releases End Game because KOTM bit into their bottom line, making it fall just short of Avatar. Ghidorah's head in GvK is the severed head from the ocean battle, seen in the KOTM after credits scene. Yes, it has one. So does Skull Island.
@@MasterIceyy True, & yet it still did better than most thought it would/ Imagine if there was no covid? ppl want fun, they want awe & adventure. The type of spectacle that no one has ever seen before that appeals to the child in us all, which the Monsterverse delivers.
11:28 the serious tone was not the problem with 2014. It was the constant lead up to something about to happen only to cut away to undercooked characters
Funny thing is though the Monarch: Legacy of Monsters show retained both the serious tone and family themed storyline from the Godzilla films that everyone complained about but actually managed to make them work a lot better because they have more time to flesh out all the characters and world building which ironically makes the show arguably better than all the movies in this franchise.
Because Minus One came out and grifting on talking shit about the Monsterverse became the new trend, I’d bet half of these guys wouldn’t make it through the majority of the Toho movies
Eh I disagree, the flaws in GvK and GxK have become more clear to the fans that do pay attention and don't just turn their brains off. I think the monsterverse movies are gonna return to being a little more grounded like they were in 2014-2019, and they'll go crazy when it comes to the next Godzilla and Kong crossovers or whatever their next big event film will be. Also no people didn't hate the darker tones of the 2014 movie, they hated the plank of wood given the role of protagonist, they hated that the most interesting character (Walter White) was killed off so early and they hated the lack of screen time Godzilla had, I have not seen one person hate the fact that 2014 was a serious toned movie. Godzilla 2019 was a pretty serious movie like 2014 and yet no one has complained about that. I don't know where you got that idea from.
I agree with you, I think the current state of the MV was kinda dictated because people were so annoyed about how little screen time Godzilla had. 90% of people that are watching these films are watching it because it has giant Kaiju, not because of people, if you want that you have Godzilla -1 or Shin Godzilla. Marvel, DC, Star Wars, X-Men, Fast and Furious, were never some high brow cinematic experience, it was entertainment, I don't see why people act like every film needs to be some deep philosophical contemplation of something, sometimes stuff just needs to be entertaining. If you think Godzilla 2014 is dark and serious than Godzilla -1 must look like a hellscape in comparison because that to me is a serious and dark film. I don't know why we can't just have 2 sides of the same Godzilla coin
@@MasterIceyy It’s not a competition, I want the monsterverse to be grounded and follow it’s own rules that the first three movies built. The special of GvK and GxK is outstanding and no one can deny it but they’ve lost the writing quality of the first three movies and it is becoming clear to people and people do care. People want quality of writing with these movies because it’s not just kids that watch them. You can have a fun movie with good writing that doesn’t contradict past monsterverse movies. That stuff isn’t regulated to the darker and serious Godzilla movies like Minus one. Idk what you were trying to say comparing 2014 to Minus One, if you think it’s some kind of competition 2014 had a much bigger hellscape compared to minus one lol. They are two completely different movies, you don’t need to compare them. Never even brought up Minus One in my original comment.
@@MintTea2005 My comments comparing Minus 1 and 2014, were directed at the guy making the video, not you, as he was making out like 2014 is some grim dark masterpiece when I never thought it was all that dark, I mentioned Minus 1 because it's definitely one of the darkest Godzilla movies ever made, from how it deals with Godzilla, it's characters, and themes. Most of my comment was me just talking to the guy who made the video, the first 2 paragraphs are mainly a response to your comment I agree with you on writing quality, I think it picked back up again in GxK because it wasn't as bloated or needlessly complicated as KotM or GvK but you're right it's never gotten back to 2014 or Skull Island levels, at least in terms of what the humans are getting up to. People don't care all that much as long as things remain entertaining. Marvel was bad a long time before people started noticing, but it was enjoyable and entertaining, what you need to worry about is when the entertainment stops, then people will care.
Kevin's head was ripped off by Godzilla when they were fighting underwater. At the end of KOTM they had a post credit scene of kevins head and thats the same head they used to control MechaGodzilla
Over 70 years we’ve been given 38 Godzilla movies and people are somehow shocked/annoyed that a movie like GxK exists? Guess they better just avoid the majority of Toho produced films then, hell the Monsterverse literally went from two somewhat serious movies to a Heisei style movie with KOTM, the early Showa styled GvK, and the late Showa styled GxK.
I disagree about Kong Skull Island being totally empty under the hood. There were definetely some anti-war messaging going on, which isn't much, but still more than an average blockbuster usually have
Why are all these damn channels coming out of nowhere, never having ANY connections to the mv, hating on the movies. Damn, I loved Minus One, but people have to realize, Godzilla movies aren’t always serious
Bro lost me at 2014 and from that point forward got some missinformation and the carelessness in his voice is hella apparent, bro called shimo "ice godzilla" oml.
@@Remedy_0101 even if he didn't know, a lot of people made the assumption that Shimo was a Godzilla when they first saw her, so I wouldn't blame him tbh.
@@shinndig1293 come on man, I said FOR ME, as in my opinion, you said “was pretty bad” like it was objectively bad in which 91% of the audience would disrespectfully disagree on, you’re probably a depressed critic that can’t enjoy fun movies, this movie was made for the fans, you’re clearly not a true fan.
Truth! But in all honesty, I think G14 and K17 were going somewhere with their more grounded and realistic interpretations of the monsters and characters, but then the next set of films that came out pretty much squandered the continuity of the MonsterVerse. While G14 didn't have Godzilla all that much, they did deliver on the tone and style the trailers were giving off, so that was fantastic. I thought K17 was wonderful and the lore of Kong and his people being taken out by the Skrull Crawlers was interesting. But when we get to the next set of films, the apes were all great at building and seemed more smarter and highly intelligent than we realized and there's no way for even a fraction of a second, that the apes we see in GxK would've lost to the Skrull Crawlers because we see how intelligent and resourceful they are and they all seemed more human than Kong himself was in K17 at the time. I think it's due to the directors, but it just felt off. Maybe that's why we see some of them still alive in GxK because they are way too civilized and powerful to just simply be taken out by smaller creatures. But my main problem is that the tones and styles were changed throughout the films and it instead delved way too much into the more magical and mystical sides of things. I'll probably watch one more film and then call it quits. I agree that the G14 official main trailer is one of the best trailers of all time with it's spilling choir and gritty atmosphere. G19's trailers was fine though. But great video by the way! 💯
People who aren’t fans of the Monsterverse will struggle to appreciate and truly understand the films, and your take on Skull Island pretty much proves my point. But to say Skull Island had no themes is crazy to me. I’ve been a fan of the Monsterverse since 2014 so maybe I just have a good eye for the themes in the Monsterverse, but I thought they made it pretty clear. If you don’t usually watch Monster movie I guess I could see someone missing the theme, since Skull Island was pretty action packed, but definitely rewatch the movie and you’ll for sure spot the things you said were missing in Kong: Skull Island.
Ngl these criticisms vids are getting kinda annoying. Further more. One big thing is’ This guy talks so much on the franchise yet doesn’t take the time to do the PROPER research on the lore of the franchise to fully understand anything. No off he’s completely entitled to his opinion. But this is just giving me dokter skipper levels of uneducated 😭🙏
There are themes in the new empire. It shows how people like Skar King take advantage of others for their own selfish need representing the worst of humanity.
The "X" in the new title is silent it means to pause when saying the names basically When verbally saying the title, the 'x' is silent-so it's pronounced 'Godzilla "pause" Kong.
The subterranean unmapped region was a prison that was made by the main villain to imprison and control any of the Ape's or monkeys that get found if not killed...
The way they both were confirmed in the same universe was in the post credits from kong skull island. And they did it really good. They only showed cave paintings of Godzilla and they show the monsters from kotm and at the end you can hear godzillas roar. And at the end of kotm they showed a cave painting of Godzilla fighting kong, wich lead to gvk.
i watched all the monsterverse movies for the first time recently and this video pretty much echoes my thoughts exactly; godzilla 2014 is the closest one i'd call to a "good" film, but godzilla vs kong was undeniably the most fun of them despite (or perhaps because of) how brain-meltingly dumb it is, while king of the monsters did the monsters better than the rest and then everything else in the movie is so goddamn poorly done that it dragged the great monsters down. i literally had to rewind during godzilla vs kong when kong goes through the hole godzilla blasts in the earth because i was like "wait, did he just climb back to the surface in like two seconds?" lmao plus it was the first of the films to have the monsters fight during the day! that counts for something! and yeah, godzilla x kong is just there, being wild and having human characters for absolutely no reason lol
I mean there are stuff that needed to be worked on and still does but the moment they introduced skull island and king of the monsters we should've already knew we'll go for a thrilling goofy ride and that's that
Glad to see you're still working! A few thoughts: - Agreed on the general quality and direction of the franchise. - Agree that KotM is the weakest in the franchise, but I would liken its strengths & weaknesses almost symmetrically to Pacific Rim. I don't understand the appeal of PR, as I find that movie's leads (Hunnam & Kikuchi) insufferable & the whole "drift" plot-device baffling. - KotM ironically seems to be the most liked film by traditional Godzilla fans (i.e. fans of Toho's Godzilla), because it perfectly encapsulates all those older, classical movies' both good & bad traits. - I'm fine with this series continuing the Showa Era (1954-1975) tone of fun blockbusters because we have contemporary Toho Godzilla for the introspective stuff (i.e. Shin Godzilla, G-1, etc.)., and unlike most comic book movies, these MVerse films aren't exhausting and are unpretentious.
Ion like how Godzilla always need help with the big fights , he should’ve fight ghidorah 101 and never got beat up by his robotic counterpart but movie still good 🔥🔥
I also think the G19 post credits was stupid because the whole plan of the villains in that movie was about creating a more smaller and balanced civilization and in a way *"saving"* the planet and ecosystem, but in GvK, it's implied those same villains gave the skull to the apex company that would build MechaGodzilla. But that makes no sense because those villains wanted to make sure humanity continues to evolve and become the alpha species of the planet, which was different than what motives the previous villains had in G19, which just shows you how GvK sort of squandered what came before and that the motives of the villains between movies was completely different in every way possible. I like the quote that the trapper character uses in GxK. *"While we're throwing random shit at the wall..."* Which is meta and funny because I believe G19 to GxK is when they were starting to throw random shit at the wall and not in a good way either. This series is all over the place and I am not sure what story elements they'll even use to keep it going as a franchise. I kind of miss Gareth Edwards and his take on the films and monsters as well. 💯
This is all why gorzilla as a eholr franchise has lasted for over 7p years now. Compare a franchise that has dumb films and serious films to king kong films, which have been the same thing for ovr 90 years. Godzilla franchise foes something no other franchise has ever done, and that is consistent dumb and serious films. Thr franchise woudlve died off years ago if it weren't for that. And in fact, without the monsterverse, there would have never have been a minus one godzilla film. The monsterverse proves to everyone that it can work as anything. Serious, or dumb, its keeping itself alive. And has for over 70 years.
This review is bad, godzilla as a franchise tries things differently every motherfucking time. The monsterverse has never fallen like you assume, by your logic every godzilla era has fallen because they all follow a similar formula. Also stop comparing minus one please, your like the millionth person to make that mistake and I'm starting to get pissed.
The inner earth in the new movies exists in a dimensional fold within our planet that is links and ties both dimensional planes like symbiosis to one another... Basically It is not in our spacetime dimension...They are basically going through an Einstein-Rosen bridge when using the portals. It's also the same fold in spacetime that allows the creatures to travel across our planet in an instant when they use certain wormholes basically that don't go to the inner plane just ride along the fold before popping up in another location on the planet,....
Godzilla KotM and GodzillaxKong are definitely the worst ones out of the monsterverse. Only good parts are anything to do with the monsters themselves. The writing is atrocious and especially with the human involvement in the films.
@@TheGoldenPlatoon757dude...what? GvK and GxK are superior to KoTM. Those films at least deliver on the monster action without the annoying cut aways.
GxK is the highest earning MonsterVerse movie, it has highest score on rotten tomatoes (audience wise) and you just don’t understand anything about the story and plot in the movie because you’re stupid and that’s why you think the writing is bad, your opinion is atrocious and in valid as f, do better.
For me it's the blatant militarism and military glorification combined with the bad plot that makes these movies suck. I just can't with the American exceptionalism anymore.
Sounds like you're doing a video on a universe that u really don't like. KTM was a gr8 movie. Millie was horrible in it with that dumb smirk. Lol I don't think you really watched these movies. The last 2 movies are too cartoonish. You'd probably like that. And layoff the DCEU.
@@TheGoldenPlatoon757 ill informed one for e.g. difficulty with mothra here is that they weren't sure they got the rights to use mothra again. They went with a new character Fossara or something. Mothra was added in the last minute. Besides Mothra is psychic. In the orginal too she always comes back somehow.
@@KingGoji-m1r3 If he wanted clout, he'd give no explanations to why he feels the way he does about the films and would instead just call it stupid and terrible without providing any interesting critiques at all.
@jackdarby2168 I'll give you that because I think he forgot that the G19 movie credits included a new egg, but you have to admit, it was interesting that this is where mothra ended up apparently. I also think that other monster was kinda cool and the angel wings were heavenly to look at honestly.
Interesting perspective but I just totally disagree, 2014 had so much potential that was squandered with "monkey punch lizard" -- why can't we have both some serious movies and the bottom of the barrell action nonsense too.
Because it's not that easy, you can't focus on the human characters if you want to see more Kaiju fight. Reason why minus one works is because it's about the people, Godzilla 2014 was trying to do both but the human cast have nothing interesting about them and tbh all people wanted was the Kaiju.
@@Maurauth the movie implies that skar king raped all the female kongs and forced them to raise his youth. He tortures what is equivalent to a puppy until it kills someone just for his enjoyment, and he beheads disobedient kongs and puts their heads on display for the other kongs to see. The place itself is literally a parallel to hell. But thats all not that serious right?
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"Kong skull island has no themes or commentary on literally anything" so we lying here huh
What is this deep commentary we missed?
@@ExpertContrarian kong skull island is a commentary on the Vietnam War and how pointless it is
@@burntrap6964 so who does Kong represent? The Vietcong? 🤣 Explain yourself. Which characters represent which factions? How exactly does it relate to Vietnam? How was the conflict pointless? You think it was a random conflict that happened for no reason? Do you know what pointless means? We just lying now? Did you just make the same mistake as the person you’re criticizing? 🤣
@@ExpertContrarian th-cam.com/video/LMjTkiChlJI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GcFPXF5FJcI_-YtE
@@burntrap6964 you should know that your reply with a link is not showing up. TH-cam does not allow those. Regardless you’re still wrong to call it pointless. That’s just as reductive as the TH-camr saying it has no themes or commentary
Worse take on Kong Skull Island I've ever seen 😭 🙏
I mean he admits G14 and K17 were the better films, so idk what you're talking about exactly. No film is exempt from any sort of criticism, no matter how good you think it is at all.
Agreed bro said Kong skull island was merely a stepping stone for Gvk like erm...I think it was more then that
No Kong skull island is the best take on Kong cuz boy thank God they finally got rid of that stupid love story about Kong and a beautiful blonde girl have Kong climb the Empire State and have him killed and America 🇺🇸 the héroe yet again end of story done that too many times already and I’m glad they got rid of that stupid story line this is the best Kong ever so shut your mouth
@AdreilDiaz Do you even know what “take” means. It means opinion. he not talking about the movie in general.he says that cleaver rebooteds take on the movie is just wrong.
The reason why Godzilla didn’t fight any of the classic kaiju in 2014 is because legendary had to buy the kaiju but it wasn’t exactly cheap to do that.
People nowadays should keep their criticism to themselves it’s just very stupid it’s not gonna change the fact that most people gonna love the MonsterVerse either way.
KOTM 'failed' because Legendary paid serious $$$ for the rights for Rodan, Mothra & Ghidorah (along with their themes), & released the film close to End Game. Bitchass Disney then RE-releases End Game because KOTM bit into their bottom line, making it fall just short of Avatar.
Ghidorah's head in GvK is the severed head from the ocean battle, seen in the KOTM after credits scene. Yes, it has one. So does Skull Island.
GvK was also hampered by Covid too
@@MasterIceyy True, & yet it still did better than most thought it would/ Imagine if there was no covid? ppl want fun, they want awe & adventure. The type of spectacle that no one has ever seen before that appeals to the child in us all, which the Monsterverse delivers.
Why must every film summary on the Monsterverse be the most stenchy take ever?
Can’t be worse than the movies themselves
cuz mine us won is da bestest scariest godzilla motion picture ever in all of filmdom gawk gawk gawk....
11:28 the serious tone was not the problem with 2014. It was the constant lead up to something about to happen only to cut away to undercooked characters
Funny thing is though the Monarch: Legacy of Monsters show retained both the serious tone and family themed storyline from the Godzilla films that everyone complained about but actually managed to make them work a lot better because they have more time to flesh out all the characters and world building which ironically makes the show arguably better than all the movies in this franchise.
Why do I now see these random Channels who have never talked about Godzilla now talking about how the monsterverse is bad and more shit 💀
Because Minus One came out and grifting on talking shit about the Monsterverse became the new trend, I’d bet half of these guys wouldn’t make it through the majority of the Toho movies
@@gcell10yea there were another TH-camr who talked shît about the MO but didn't know bs about the goofy shît that happened in the past
Cause it is shit now. As he said it’s slop &’feels like an 8 year old directed it but that’s just me.
@@TheeDisobedientHave you seen the showa era
@@lucasthehedgehog799this isn’t the shows era or made by Toho.
Eh I disagree, the flaws in GvK and GxK have become more clear to the fans that do pay attention and don't just turn their brains off. I think the monsterverse movies are gonna return to being a little more grounded like they were in 2014-2019, and they'll go crazy when it comes to the next Godzilla and Kong crossovers or whatever their next big event film will be. Also no people didn't hate the darker tones of the 2014 movie, they hated the plank of wood given the role of protagonist, they hated that the most interesting character (Walter White) was killed off so early and they hated the lack of screen time Godzilla had, I have not seen one person hate the fact that 2014 was a serious toned movie. Godzilla 2019 was a pretty serious movie like 2014 and yet no one has complained about that. I don't know where you got that idea from.
I agree with you, I think the current state of the MV was kinda dictated because people were so annoyed about how little screen time Godzilla had.
90% of people that are watching these films are watching it because it has giant Kaiju, not because of people, if you want that you have Godzilla -1 or Shin Godzilla.
Marvel, DC, Star Wars, X-Men, Fast and Furious, were never some high brow cinematic experience, it was entertainment, I don't see why people act like every film needs to be some deep philosophical contemplation of something, sometimes stuff just needs to be entertaining.
If you think Godzilla 2014 is dark and serious than Godzilla -1 must look like a hellscape in comparison because that to me is a serious and dark film. I don't know why we can't just have 2 sides of the same Godzilla coin
@@MasterIceyy It’s not a competition, I want the monsterverse to be grounded and follow it’s own rules that the first three movies built. The special of GvK and GxK is outstanding and no one can deny it but they’ve lost the writing quality of the first three movies and it is becoming clear to people and people do care.
People want quality of writing with these movies because it’s not just kids that watch them. You can have a fun movie with good writing that doesn’t contradict past monsterverse movies. That stuff isn’t regulated to the darker and serious Godzilla movies like Minus one.
Idk what you were trying to say comparing 2014 to Minus One, if you think it’s some kind of competition 2014 had a much bigger hellscape compared to minus one lol. They are two completely different movies, you don’t need to compare them. Never even brought up Minus One in my original comment.
@@MintTea2005 My comments comparing Minus 1 and 2014, were directed at the guy making the video, not you, as he was making out like 2014 is some grim dark masterpiece when I never thought it was all that dark, I mentioned Minus 1 because it's definitely one of the darkest Godzilla movies ever made, from how it deals with Godzilla, it's characters, and themes. Most of my comment was me just talking to the guy who made the video, the first 2 paragraphs are mainly a response to your comment
I agree with you on writing quality, I think it picked back up again in GxK because it wasn't as bloated or needlessly complicated as KotM or GvK but you're right it's never gotten back to 2014 or Skull Island levels, at least in terms of what the humans are getting up to.
People don't care all that much as long as things remain entertaining. Marvel was bad a long time before people started noticing, but it was enjoyable and entertaining, what you need to worry about is when the entertainment stops, then people will care.
@@MasterIceyy can you name a darker godzilla film than G14 that isn't minus 1?
@@Maurauth Shin Godzilla is literally a horror film
Kevin's head was ripped off by Godzilla when they were fighting underwater. At the end of KOTM they had a post credit scene of kevins head and thats the same head they used to control MechaGodzilla
Over 70 years we’ve been given 38 Godzilla movies and people are somehow shocked/annoyed that a movie like GxK exists? Guess they better just avoid the majority of Toho produced films then, hell the Monsterverse literally went from two somewhat serious movies to a Heisei style movie with KOTM, the early Showa styled GvK, and the late Showa styled GxK.
What kind of argument is this? “All these other bad movies were made, so why would you criticize this one?!”
@@ExpertContrarianno one said here that the showa era movies are bad
@@lucasthehedgehog799 I am. Regardless, take away the bad part and my argument still remains valid
I disagree about Kong Skull Island being totally empty under the hood. There were definetely some anti-war messaging going on, which isn't much, but still more than an average blockbuster usually have
Why are all these damn channels coming out of nowhere, never having ANY connections to the mv, hating on the movies. Damn, I loved Minus One, but people have to realize, Godzilla movies aren’t always serious
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Connections to MV? So only shill channels are allowed to discuss these movies?
Everyone has their own opinions and are allowed to not like or like a movie. You can disagree with it if u don't like it.
Bro lost me at 2014 and from that point forward got some missinformation and the carelessness in his voice is hella apparent, bro called shimo "ice godzilla" oml.
Actually, Shimo was pitched as an Ice Godzilla at first, there's even concept art of her being such, so he's not entirely wrong in calling her that.
@Geminanvaju ok, how much you wanna bet he did even know that?
@@Remedy_0101 even if he didn't know, a lot of people made the assumption that Shimo was a Godzilla when they first saw her, so I wouldn't blame him tbh.
@@Geminanvaju eh regardless, horrid take on his part
Why is he not allowed to call ice Godzilla ice Godzilla?
For me it’s getting way WAY better as time goes on
The New Empire was pretty bad and felt like a cash grab.
@@shinndig1293 every movie is basically a cash grab, never talk to me again and delete your comments, thank you.
@@Jawsfan2009 I see, I'm talking to a triggered braindead 10 year old on the spectrum. Thank you for letting me know XD.
@@shinndig1293 lol
@@shinndig1293 come on man, I said FOR ME, as in my opinion, you said “was pretty bad” like it was objectively bad in which 91% of the audience would disrespectfully disagree on, you’re probably a depressed critic that can’t enjoy fun movies, this movie was made for the fans, you’re clearly not a true fan.
Truth! But in all honesty, I think G14 and K17 were going somewhere with their more grounded and realistic interpretations of the monsters and characters, but then the next set of films that came out pretty much squandered the continuity of the MonsterVerse. While G14 didn't have Godzilla all that much, they did deliver on the tone and style the trailers were giving off, so that was fantastic. I thought K17 was wonderful and the lore of Kong and his people being taken out by the Skrull Crawlers was interesting. But when we get to the next set of films, the apes were all great at building and seemed more smarter and highly intelligent than we realized and there's no way for even a fraction of a second, that the apes we see in GxK would've lost to the Skrull Crawlers because we see how intelligent and resourceful they are and they all seemed more human than Kong himself was in K17 at the time. I think it's due to the directors, but it just felt off. Maybe that's why we see some of them still alive in GxK because they are way too civilized and powerful to just simply be taken out by smaller creatures. But my main problem is that the tones and styles were changed throughout the films and it instead delved way too much into the more magical and mystical sides of things. I'll probably watch one more film and then call it quits.
I agree that the G14 official main trailer is one of the best trailers of all time with it's spilling choir and gritty atmosphere. G19's trailers was fine though.
But great video by the way! 💯
People who aren’t fans of the Monsterverse will struggle to appreciate and truly understand the films, and your take on Skull Island pretty much proves my point. But to say Skull Island had no themes is crazy to me. I’ve been a fan of the Monsterverse since 2014 so maybe I just have a good eye for the themes in the Monsterverse, but I thought they made it pretty clear. If you don’t usually watch Monster movie I guess I could see someone missing the theme, since Skull Island was pretty action packed, but definitely rewatch the movie and you’ll for sure spot the things you said were missing in Kong: Skull Island.
Ngl these criticisms vids are getting kinda annoying.
Further more. One big thing is’
This guy talks so much on the franchise yet doesn’t take the time to do the PROPER research on the lore of the franchise to fully understand anything. No off he’s completely entitled to his opinion.
But this is just giving me dokter skipper levels of uneducated 😭🙏
To clarify, the ghidorah head in gvk was the one Godzilla ripped off in the ocean fight.
The guy that did the last two won't be doing the next because scheduling problems. This happened about 3 days ago or so now...
There are themes in the new empire. It shows how people like Skar King take advantage of others for their own selfish need representing the worst of humanity.
Wow, that’s like, so deep man
@@ExpertContrarian Thanks!
I think its a perfect homage to the showa era
Plus, the Showa Era is also considered the most nostalgic era.
@@rickyrackey7930 true
The Showa era was never THAT good to begin with however. The Heisei era was the best time for Godzilla.
@@shinndig1293 What, showa era is great
Did bro watch Skull Island with this eyes closed???
Boston was evacuated before the fight between the titans.
The "X" in the new title is silent it means to pause when saying the names basically When verbally saying the title, the 'x' is silent-so it's pronounced 'Godzilla "pause" Kong.
The subterranean unmapped region was a prison that was made by the main villain to imprison and control any of the Ape's or monkeys that get found if not killed...
I understood where this franchise was headed thats why i did acid for the last movie and you know what?.... It started to make sense lmao
LOL! 😂
The way they both were confirmed in the same universe was in the post credits from kong skull island. And they did it really good. They only showed cave paintings of Godzilla and they show the monsters from kotm and at the end you can hear godzillas roar. And at the end of kotm they showed a cave painting of Godzilla fighting kong, wich lead to gvk.
Mothra always reancarnates that’s why she is back in the new empire.
i watched all the monsterverse movies for the first time recently and this video pretty much echoes my thoughts exactly; godzilla 2014 is the closest one i'd call to a "good" film, but godzilla vs kong was undeniably the most fun of them despite (or perhaps because of) how brain-meltingly dumb it is, while king of the monsters did the monsters better than the rest and then everything else in the movie is so goddamn poorly done that it dragged the great monsters down.
i literally had to rewind during godzilla vs kong when kong goes through the hole godzilla blasts in the earth because i was like "wait, did he just climb back to the surface in like two seconds?" lmao plus it was the first of the films to have the monsters fight during the day! that counts for something!
and yeah, godzilla x kong is just there, being wild and having human characters for absolutely no reason lol
Kong skull island?
GxK does the human plot better than GvK and KotM. however it definitely panders more to the Kaiju fan than it does the giant realistic monster crowd
Look, Ghidorah is an alien meaning things like his skull might contain a consciousness.
I mean there are stuff that needed to be worked on and still does but the moment they introduced skull island and king of the monsters we should've already knew we'll go for a thrilling goofy ride and that's that
A descent analysis. But you lost me at "so dumb it's practically immune to criticism." Nothing is immune to criticism. Especially if it's that dumb.
Dumb FUN.
Ironic but that is how most of the fans defend the movies
How is gxk dumb
Wait till he hears about the entire Japanese Godzilla movies
Glad to see you're still working! A few thoughts:
- Agreed on the general quality and direction of the franchise.
- Agree that KotM is the weakest in the franchise, but I would liken its strengths & weaknesses almost symmetrically to Pacific Rim. I don't understand the appeal of PR, as I find that movie's leads (Hunnam & Kikuchi) insufferable & the whole "drift" plot-device baffling.
- KotM ironically seems to be the most liked film by traditional Godzilla fans (i.e. fans of Toho's Godzilla), because it perfectly encapsulates all those older, classical movies' both good & bad traits.
- I'm fine with this series continuing the Showa Era (1954-1975) tone of fun blockbusters because we have contemporary Toho Godzilla for the introspective stuff (i.e. Shin Godzilla, G-1, etc.)., and unlike most comic book movies, these MVerse films aren't exhausting and are unpretentious.
Pacific Rim was good because it was giant robots fighting giant monsters, pretty much everything else is secondary to that
Ion like how Godzilla always need help with the big fights , he should’ve fight ghidorah 101 and never got beat up by his robotic counterpart but movie still good 🔥🔥
Bros never seen the Heisei Era and it shows
I also think the G19 post credits was stupid because the whole plan of the villains in that movie was about creating a more smaller and balanced civilization and in a way *"saving"* the planet and ecosystem, but in GvK, it's implied those same villains gave the skull to the apex company that would build MechaGodzilla. But that makes no sense because those villains wanted to make sure humanity continues to evolve and become the alpha species of the planet, which was different than what motives the previous villains had in G19, which just shows you how GvK sort of squandered what came before and that the motives of the villains between movies was completely different in every way possible. I like the quote that the trapper character uses in GxK.
*"While we're throwing random shit at the wall..."*
Which is meta and funny because I believe G19 to GxK is when they were starting to throw random shit at the wall and not in a good way either.
This series is all over the place and I am not sure what story elements they'll even use to keep it going as a franchise.
I kind of miss Gareth Edwards and his take on the films and monsters as well. 💯
The Novelizations do make solid connections between the movies.
@rickyrackey7930 Well it's too bad the pay off isn't there in the films besides a few mentions of the monsters throughout the source material.
This is all why gorzilla as a eholr franchise has lasted for over 7p years now. Compare a franchise that has dumb films and serious films to king kong films, which have been the same thing for ovr 90 years. Godzilla franchise foes something no other franchise has ever done, and that is consistent dumb and serious films. Thr franchise woudlve died off years ago if it weren't for that. And in fact, without the monsterverse, there would have never have been a minus one godzilla film. The monsterverse proves to everyone that it can work as anything. Serious, or dumb, its keeping itself alive. And has for over 70 years.
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This review is bad, godzilla as a franchise tries things differently every motherfucking time. The monsterverse has never fallen like you assume, by your logic every godzilla era has fallen because they all follow a similar formula. Also stop comparing minus one please, your like the millionth person to make that mistake and I'm starting to get pissed.
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The mini Kong’s name is Suko.
The inner earth in the new movies exists in a dimensional fold within our planet that is links and ties both dimensional planes like symbiosis to one another... Basically It is not in our spacetime dimension...They are basically going through an Einstein-Rosen bridge when using the portals. It's also the same fold in spacetime that allows the creatures to travel across our planet in an instant when they use certain wormholes basically that don't go to the inner plane just ride along the fold before popping up in another location on the planet,....
43:43 Oh yes, the 2nd best Transformers movie (no irony), even though this scene is rotten
Bro keep making videos, I deadass thought you were like, a ginormous review channel, you're gonna hit it big with reviews like this.
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Godzilla KotM and GodzillaxKong are definitely the worst ones out of the monsterverse. Only good parts are anything to do with the monsters themselves. The writing is atrocious and especially with the human involvement in the films.
G14 and K17 were great as G19, Gvk and Gxk is were things were starting to fuck up.
Gvk and Gxk were peak dawg
@@TheGoldenPlatoon757dude...what? GvK and GxK are superior to KoTM. Those films at least deliver on the monster action without the annoying cut aways.
GxK is the highest earning MonsterVerse movie, it has highest score on rotten tomatoes (audience wise) and you just don’t understand anything about the story and plot in the movie because you’re stupid and that’s why you think the writing is bad, your opinion is atrocious and in valid as f, do better.
@@economiccrisis9267Gkotm had a better plot, soundtrack, tone, monsters and villains than gvk and gxk
For me it's the blatant militarism and military glorification combined with the bad plot that makes these movies suck. I just can't with the American exceptionalism anymore.
So that means your not gonna watch the 6th Monsterverse film when it comes out in 2027.
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I disagree the mutos are amazing
Didn't realize they give degrees for yapping
don't let him cook ever again
Sounds like you're doing a video on a universe that u really don't like. KTM was a gr8 movie. Millie was horrible in it with that dumb smirk. Lol I don't think you really watched these movies. The last 2 movies are too cartoonish. You'd probably like that. And layoff the DCEU.
Bros speaking fluently yappanese 💀
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Nah, just a guy with an opinion, lol.
@@TheGoldenPlatoon757 ill informed one for e.g. difficulty with mothra here is that they weren't sure they got the rights to use mothra again. They went with a new character Fossara or something. Mothra was added in the last minute. Besides Mothra is psychic. In the orginal too she always comes back somehow.
@@KingGoji-m1r3 If he wanted clout, he'd give no explanations to why he feels the way he does about the films and would instead just call it stupid and terrible without providing any interesting critiques at all.
@jackdarby2168 I'll give you that because I think he forgot that the G19 movie credits included a new egg, but you have to admit, it was interesting that this is where mothra ended up apparently. I also think that other monster was kinda cool and the angel wings were heavenly to look at honestly.
In my opinion Godzilla x Kong is the worst monsterverse movie.
I think that G14 and K17 were in my opinion, the only good ones and the rest following those films went all over the place with the tone and style.
Nah KotM is the worst of the Millie Bobbie Brown-verse
@@SerenGetter lol you didn't read my comment fanboy 😆
@@Godzilla-jr5gi Sorry, the more Millie Bobbie Brown, the worse the movie is, thems the rules 👍👍
@@SerenGetter well its my opinion and you can't change it.
Sounds like you hate all the movies… Just stop watching them if they’re so damn bad. Jeez! 😂
Interesting perspective but I just totally disagree, 2014 had so much potential that was squandered with "monkey punch lizard" -- why can't we have both some serious movies and the bottom of the barrell action nonsense too.
GxK had both serious and silly aspects
Because it's not that easy, you can't focus on the human characters if you want to see more Kaiju fight. Reason why minus one works is because it's about the people, Godzilla 2014 was trying to do both but the human cast have nothing interesting about them and tbh all people wanted was the Kaiju.
@@dextergzslasher4402 G14 was better than every other movie though and had the correct ratio of story to monsters tbh
@@Fire-Hydrant-Cactus that's copium it was a cartoon
@@Maurauth the movie implies that skar king raped all the female kongs and forced them to raise his youth. He tortures what is equivalent to a puppy until it kills someone just for his enjoyment, and he beheads disobedient kongs and puts their heads on display for the other kongs to see. The place itself is literally a parallel to hell. But thats all not that serious right?