The Boys 1x7 REACTION!! "The Self-Preservation Society"
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- Eric Shane Rick Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 1 episode 6 of The Boys - The Innocents
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One of my favorite show
This episode probably evoked the biggest reaction of any show in recent memory. A-Train's leg breaking, the gill scene, Mesmer's death, and the baby breaking out of the womb. So much in this episode...
You forgot the lobster!
Never Forget the LOBSTER
The last scene with Starlight getting shot tho
MrPopTarted yep 💯👏🏽
i came for the "not you, Noir, you're great" line
but it was cut .
lili ks same here the entire scene was the best part of the episode and it got cut short
@@SkidmoreTx many reactors cut this scene short for some reason
ks they are fools
@@liliks14 could be its one of those weird copyright ding magnets
@@JacobMcBaggins maybe
"I'd rather have Batman & Superman know all the "bad" things i've done, than Homelander knowing my face & the "good" things i've done!"
WORD!!!
Agreed lol
And he said that Before watching this episode
@@thestairguy
Right?!
Almost prophetic!
👍🏽 💯
?? I don't get, Am I supposed to?
The Homelander/Starlight scene confirmed something for me. In a perfect world, Antony Starr(Homelander) would do a terrifying Eobard Thawne, or a true Albert Wesker from Resident Evil
Well they are rebooting the films.
I can already hear him whispering maniacally "It was ME, Barry!" He would be perfect for Eobard Thawne, but he wouldn't want to be typecast, playing narcissistic, twisted, power-hungry psychopaths.
Dylan Leff I’m talking for the DCEU films. Of course Tom Cavanaugh and Matt Leischter own the role of TV, a guy can dream though
Shane had so many looks of disgust. ‘’the worst thing I’ve seen in my life’’
Definitely this month.
That scene made me feel ill for 2hours
Agreed. Of course, rape shouldn’t be an easy thing to watch regardless of who it’s done to.
remember at the party Homelander wanted her to take over his social media accts.
it looked like Rebecca walked in for a business meeting. she had a briefcase like purse in her hand.
if it was consensual, I don't think she would have walked out of the room with her clothes so disheveled.
It's a few years later and Ive seen your comment. None of them recall or recognise Becca was dressed for a meeting. Instead they went went straight to dismissing the rape. I'm actually disgusted right now. I enjoyed their The Bear reactions, and now this. 😬
It says a LOT that the image of a woman walking out of a room shaken and her clothes disheveled has been used as a way to not portray rape but simply consensual sex that “got rough”. This stereotypical trope is so deeply ingrained that nobody wanted to even admit that maybe just maybe the rape was just that- rape. We normalize women being disheveled and handled so violently during sexual encounters and it only serves to make it less likely for the average person to believe someone’s account of rape. It’s disgusting.
In the comics Becca and the baby really did die, except Becca died when the fetus burst out of her with eye lazers, and Butcher beat it to death with a desk lamp.
Definitely not how they went with the show
I always thought the gill scene was The Deeps turning point in a way to realise how wrong what he did to some of those women was. In that scene he himself was sexually assaulted by that woman, by her persisting on pushing her fingers inside his gills after he said it hurt and told her to stop. After that he must’ve finally realised how those women he pressured into sexual acts must’ve felt.
Great analysis I didn’t even think about that.
I'm pretty sure this was the obvious intent of the scene, and it's why the woman went there with him in the first place. Everyone is pissed at the Deep right now for being a piece of (censored). People are throwing garbage at him at gas stations. The lady said she was "counting on" him not looking like everyone else. She was there to humiliate him and hurt him the way he has to so many women before. It's a taste of his own medicine.
That scene makes my stomach hurt watching it because even though it's just his gills, it's obviously meant to be, essentially, a (censored) scene. It's so fucking gnarly, blehh, lol.
@@BryceLK I never really got the sense she was doing it as some sort of revenge, she just seemed like a freak taking advantage of him being at his lowest point. Just using him to fulfill a weird fetish rather than really viewing him as a person, the way he did Starlight (seeming genuinely confused by why she was still mad at him, as though he didn't realise she had feelings)
@C.o.R (Lex) I mean... maybe both? But I'm definitely more confident in how I read the situation, and while you may be right, I'm not too quick to trust just any random stranger to pick up those types of subtleties in a scene like that. I searched to see if any articles happened to be written about that scene and I got quite a few results that are in line with what I got from it.
We may be both saying the same thing and just not speaking clearly. Here are some excerpts from an article that I pulled from slashfilm.
*The Boys Scene That Made Chace Crawford Very Uncomfortable*
_Nauseating as his scene with Starlight may be, this isn't even the scene that Crawford found the most difficult to film. After Starlight reveals the assault to the public, The Deep is banished to Sandusky, Ohio where a fan sexually assaults him using ... his gills._
_In season 1, episode 7, "Self Preservation Society," he invites a woman home for sex, only for her to force her fingers into his gills._
_The scene is also uncomfortable to watch - although it does offer a poignant reversal of his earlier assault on Starlight._
@@BryceLK wow, just say you're a dick and move on. All YOU are is a 'random stranger on the internet', we're all here sharing our opinions on an interesting topic. Feel free to link the exact interviews that explicitly say she did it as revenge for him assaulting Starlight. Like I said, I read it as her intentions were solely wanting to fulfill her fetish. Doesn't mean it didn't still have the same impact on Deep.
I think it's pretty logical to assume that the reason Dr. Voglebaum would lie about the baby being dead would be to not have a psychopath Homelander trying to find that child & possibly kill/raise it lol
yeah they don't need TWO of them
@@AlbertoMartinez765 This is getting out of hand, now there are TWO of them!
@@nickcampanella636 might be three of them!!
It is obvious they want to use his child to make him a homelander 2.0. A better version, just as powerful but raised with love. Vogelbaum said it himself when talking about breeding dogs. The vullshit about keeping becca and ryan away from him because of the scandal was a lie.
This comment aged like fine wine
Eric: "That girl is from Akron"
Me: DEAD
I agree with Eric. A sociopath’s understanding of what constitutes rape is unreliable. If it’s consensual then there’s no reason to come outta the room not fully clothed, unless there was a sudden turn of events in the room, but I don’t think that’s clued-in by the show.
I think y'all are undersestimating Homelander as someone who doesn't leave loose ends. If he really did rape her, why's he let her go even though there was a possibility she would squeal. He let an airplane full of people die just so no one would be a witness, but he didn't dispose of a woman he raped? Someone who also has is also in charge of the company' social media relations? He might be a sociopath, but he's not stupid. He's calculating and perceptive. He would have killed her after raping her for sure.
@@strangeturtle5947 Assuming he knew what he did was rape, killing someone isn't the only way to make sure they don't talk, especially if that person is still useful.
@@ragtimeraver Sure. But he didn't keep track of her for 8 years. He only started snooping when he saw Butcher as an issue.
@@strangeturtle5947 Did he need to? If human victims were afraid to speak out about The Deep's sexual abuse, who's going to risk going up against Homelander?
Fuck lets be honest, alot of "normal" people dont understand what constitutes rape. Iv honest to god heard the defense "She was wet so obviously she wanted it".
The outside of Stillwell's office says that she is the vice president. Edgar is the President of Vought.
Consent for walking inside the room = consent for sex? Oof. A consent for a kiss is NOT even a consent for sex. And Homelander is a walking gun-to-the-head. How can you even refuse him when you're always just a second away from getting lasered in half?
That’s not what they said, they said we don’t know which was true. The problem is can you like ever have the sort of power dynamic with Homelander for anything like conventional consent.
@@Souledex The problem is that at this point in the show it should be obvious that she was raped. Anyone that this is not the case for needs to do some evaluation.
@@Souledex No, two of them said they didn’t know what was true. The other two said it looked consensual.
two of them are quite ignorant, saying a woman is not raped over 3 hrs or "she didn't look like" she was raped.
There are many cases (some by notorious rapist/serial killers) where a woman has been held hostage and raped over DAYS.
What does a "raped woman" look like?
@@balkhazzargaming5373 ugh, it’s so disgusting
Watching the boys reacting to “ The Boys”
Me and the boys watching the boys react to the boys
* cheers for nudity * * gills scene *
Your text isn't bold F
@@Qwerty-ig5fe not supposed to be
El Bruce they show tiddies in the strip club scene in episode 1
@@misterthedarkknight about time indeed
If she was raped, which is what I'm thinking, the encounter would be her coming in the room under different pretenses, the rape occured after she told him no, then he would have had her stay till she calmed down, probably after a passive threat. So the timeframe makes sense depending how long he kept the charade up.
People actual saying Becca wasn't raped because she was with Homelander for 3 hours......like WTF
Yeah that doesn't really make sense... like, even if it's more than enough time to start having second thoughts, if she's already in there with a mentally unstable superman who expects to get laid, how the fuck is she supposed to tell him no and back out of that?
Yeah homelander would lose his temper and straight up kil her if she refused she was basically imprisoned by him@@NatyaVT
She didn't disappear right after the video Mallory showed Butcher. Mallory said that video was a few days after the Christmas party. The video Butcher has of Becca in the park is dated January 24th. Also to me one of the signs that it was rape is she left the room looking disheveled (blouse untucked, hair messy, one shoe off). Had it been consensual sex I would imagine she would fix herself up and leave the room looking the same way she did when she went in.
I dunno, but I don't think any woman who has had consensual sex leaves a room, into a public corridor, with one shoe off and her shirt hanging out. My reading is she got out of there as soon as she could (probably when Homelander fell asleep).
The problem is though he went three hours with her but could barely last a minute with his boss
Prince Mwamba the guy just has a mummy fetish. That’s the whole point of the scene.
Craig Murray or she was incredibly guilty
@@davidajayi6516 If you're incredibly guilty you cover it up even more.
Craig Murray that is dependent on the person
20:52 what...? Clearly no authority on the topic. Weirdest logic for dismissing r*pe as a possibility. Also, Becca went in there to discuss Homelander's social media. But even if it wasn't business related, just because she was laughing as they walked in doesn't = consent.
Exactly... I'm confused and honestly, ridiculously angry.
Barry: Lets Patty leave town rather than confess to being the Flash
Also Barry: reveals his identity to roughly a half dozen more people after this 😂
King Remo Gaming lmao right?! I think what they were going for is that he wanted her to follow her dreams and be a csi or whatever but it was so damn frustrating to watch
Wrong show
number five l, I’m aware, but my comment was in reference to the actress who played “Patty Spivott” also being on this show as Ms. Butcher. And to point out the flawed logic of superheroes. Which is partially the point of this show.
This still pisses me off. The show really screwed up that relationship after it had a promising start.
@@suncore598 they unknowingly put a better relationship to Barry and had to take it back.
sometimes i think they dont pay attention fully cause they literally show starlight's powers in the first ep, explains what she can do! and why takes notes and not reference them
I truly can't understand how the fact that she went into the room justifies it would be consensual. If I went in a room willingly with somebody and got out having had sex, and that's all you know, how the hell would you justify either possibility ?
Also, I didn't understand why Aaron thought it all happened so fast.
Same to al of it. If he paid attention to the mesmer scene, we can see that Becca was basically frustrated and depressed for several days, and Butcher was trying to talk her out of what was happening.
I'd question based on what we know whether it was Homelander at fault or not... I mean obviously he 'did' it, but whether or not it could even be truly consensual from Becca's POV... I mean it's possible she was told to do it or be fired by the higher ups at Vought.
30:37 "Make the plan,
execute the plan,
expect the plan to go off the rails,
throw away the plan." **cries in the corner**
Aaron has the weirdest theory, a baby grow in 3 hours, and homelander in the same roon didn't know about it? only the wife notice it and didn't tell him?
All this just to justify homelander didn't rape her?
And people wear the same clothes mean they are on the same day? What?
Yeah, that was weird.
Ding rown not to mention he forgot the scene where Butcher tries to get his wife to tell him what was wrong with her. Was that supposed to have happened the same day also??! Lol
@@vickerfinal celebs and people un power can have sex with others as long as they don't manipulate and basically blackmail people into doing it
@@vickerfinal No, its not on the same day, the 24 hours thing is from she sit in the park and got caught on camera, and then with in 24 hours she disappeared
Ding rown Aaron’s mind is a strange place
What is it you don’t you don’t understand about homelander,his attitude,tells you all you need to know about him.the doc said it best,”my greatest failure” he has no empathy for anyone or anything,..the worlds most powerful super hero,does what he wants,who is gonna stop him!
Just because they were in there for 3 hrs it doesn't mean the alleged rape took place for 3 hrs. The first few hours could have been discussing business strategy.
A Ward this is the fourth time I question Shane’s morals when in comes to rape. It’s very unsettling.
You also have to remember Billy is the only character calling rape. You also have to look at the whole situation. Homelander is basically God on earth to the public. VERY few women would pass up the chance to do it with God. Heck plenty of women cheat on their husbands with more powerful, financially, guys.
@@Zorant0Zero lmao "Homeowner" sounds so much less threatening
@@cykadelic6524 was on mobile and it automatically corrected.
@@Zorant0Zero man, you need to reflect on your morals and points of view my friend. Rape is rape.
Well her willingness to leave with the baby definitely affects the situation I think immediately trying to say oh well maybe she wasn't raped then is kinda...not great? Like, just because she was willing to go along with having the baby doesn't mean it wasn't raped. the mentality of oh you're having the baby so you don't really regret it is bullshit
They got the timeline all wrong: Christmas party (let’s say 15/20th December) they meet, then as Mallory said a couple days later Homelander and Becca go in the hotel room and have sex, then the 24th of January (the date is on the security tape) she disappears so clearly enough time has passed for her to know that she’s pregnant
They didn't have sex he assaulted her.
It wasnt an hotel, it Wars the tose of the 7
It's amazing that people who take notes during the show get soooo many things wrong..... 😂
These guys aren't particularly intelligent. Or even of average intelligence.
@@dude123nice6 They seem intelligent to me if you watch most of their videos. Just because they are theorising what could happen next an it may not be correct they arent intelligent? 😂
@@sjg8478 they don't even catch on to simple facts that almost anyone understands. And they cut out the best parts out of their reactions. They aren't even good at what they do.
@@dude123nice6 then why are you watching this 2 year old video?
And they can’t include the entire episode on TH-cam go watch it yourself if you want to see the best parts
@@alluminox2473 oh, I just wandered here while responding to a long running discussions in the replies to another comment on this vide, saw this reply as well, and felt like adding something.
Also, I'm not criticizing them for cutting parts out and I'm not saying that I, or others, are trying to legit watch this episode theough their reaction video. What I am saying is that they should have chosen the best parts of the video to be amongst the bits they kept in, because ppl specifically want to see THEIR REACTION to those best parts. The fact that they can't even understand such a simple thing about their viewers doesn't speak highly of their IQ.
Did they forget that Becca went to Homelander's room for business purposes? She was helping him with his social media, the r*pe probably occurred towards the end of the 3 hour period just before she's seen exiting the room.
I understand thinking it might not have been r*pe because its a chance for the show to subvert expectations, but literally nothing that we've been shown or told thus far indicates that it was actually consensual and i dont understand why so many reactors are willing to d1e on that hill.
thank you!
THANK YOU.
R*pe culture is insane and this is such a big part of it. All the signs are there and people want to ignore it so bad.
Thank you for this comment
The actor who plays Translucent on The Boys is playing Vicious in Netflix's live-action version of Cowboy Bebop.
Crazy how y’all believe homelander and question if it was rape lmao
It’s really not that crazy I just finished season 1 and was throughly convinced she just cheated, the show does a good job of putting that thought into your head.
@@docsuperg3560 Part of the problem, is you have that claim coming from not the victim or perpetrators, but people with an agenda. Mallory absolutely is manipulating Butcher, much like he manipulates others.
@@docsuperg3560 Uhh, I just have to disagree. I can accept that, sure, maybe you could make an argument that simply because the information is coming from Mallory and Butcher you can't always just take everything they say as gospel 100% of the time? You have to be going really, _really,_ far out of your way to play devil's advocate to say that the show leaves it up in the air, though.
The entire series is a montage of, "Remember how you thought Homelander was the scariest villain you've seen before? Check this shit out!" Every Butcher flashback shows him and Becca in love and happy; again, that's William "Billy" Butcher, the guy who just bashed Mesmer's head through a public bathroom sink, in a suit, goofing off at a Christmas party, laying around and cuddling in bed, kind of all the shit that you'd never see Butcher do, I guess, and with evidence of her leaving a room bewildered and still getting dressed after hours in a room with him and then abruptly disappearing from the face of the Earth after sitting alone on a bench, again, for hours, there's an equal possibility in your mind of "Well, bitches be like that sometimes, man."
I just don't see it. Now, they fully _could have_ written it so that it was just a casual affair and I would have accepted it, but by all accounts I feel like the storytelling was screaming a single answer, lol. I don't know, maybe they expected too much out of us as viewers? Maybe they figured, "Law & Order SVU has been on TV for about 75 years now, right? Yeah, they'll get it."
@@BryceLK lol you’re so wrong it’s hilarious, he is literally the most powerful man in the world doesn’t matter how shitty he is people are going to want him no matter “how happy” their current life is🤡. I never thought that homelander wasnt shitty and he wouldn’t rape someone LMAO. The fact that she disappeares without telling butch a thing is a huge contributor to thinking she may have cheated she left on her own free will, ofc that’s explained later on but this is season 1 we’re talking about where we have absolutely 0 of these answers. The show purposefully makes the viewer question this and constantly put the idea their even tho butcher never straight out says it and to be quite honest for a show that’s supposed to be a realistic depiction of how super heroes could be corrupt it makes perfect sense for this to happen as absolute power corrupts and when someone is offered that there’s no telling whatd they’d do. It has nothing to do with her being a “bitch” as you put it either im sure plenty of men out their would cheat on their other with Wonder Woman if it meant they got to have her kid. Also the fact that she stayed in the room for a long time doesn’t prove anything she doesn’t seem distraught or in a hurry or really anything wrong with her after leaving which puts the question into your head is she in shock and that’s why she’s acting impartial or did she enjoy this? Not to mention how other commenters pointed out all this info came from Mallory a very untrustworthy source. And to be clear I was never on team “SHE WAS DEFINITELY JUST CHEATING” as you seem to think I’m saying the show put the mystery there and doubt creeps up into your mind as it did for butcher, but the fact that he never lets that doubt affect him or change his resolve is what really proves their love not some silly flashbacks of them having sex.
Absolutely nothing you said made it obvious that she was raped i think you’re just upset that you missed a major plot point and that you’re extremely naive and trusting but it’s okay that’s not necessarily a bad thing, the writers did a excellent job with respecting their viewers intelligence in season 1 and have a great way of telling a story through characters without them having to obviously state how they feel or what they’re thinking. Clearly the respect wasn’t appreciated by everyone however.
@@BryceLK honestly just sit back and think about what makes a better story, one single upfront obvious answer or drama and a mystery going forward whether or not our protagonist is fighting for all the wrong reasons the entire time. Pretty obvious which one has more entertainment value and should make it quite clear for you which one the writers intended.
You know... acquaintance rape is a real thing where women feel like they have to have sex with someone they know based on pressure, or fear of harm, and other reasons. She could have felt any number of things, and he may have even threatened her career, and so she just may have gone along with it to get out of the room. Also, not all rape is 5 minutes long. Otherwise a great video reaction and analysis.
She was in the room for three hours. My guess is that Homelander didn’t violently rape her, he simply wouldn’t let her leave until she agreed to have sex with him and even threw in some less than subtle hints about what he’d do to her husband if she didn’t comply. There’s literally nothing she can do to leave and nothing anyone can do to stop Homelander from hurting her husband. There’s no way it was consensual, because if she’s cheating on her husband, she isn’t rushing out of the room disheveled and half dressed. I think She spent 2 hours and 55 minutes trying to leave while HL wouldn’t let her go and finally gave in because she had zero alternative options, HL raped her and shoved her out the door and in his head “It wasn’t rare because she said yes”.
Second season pretty much 100 percent confirmed it was rape.
I know it’s 2 years late, but if you seen the new season Mallory said it best “Women are either humouring you, or scared of you, none on them actually like you.” Albeit not to Homelander but same concept.
Yeah for homelander situation it applies 100% but in a real work environment, it can be complicated especially if it’s a boss-employee situation
Yea I think it’s telling that the reactors I’ve seen question the consent of the situation have all been men, and it seems to be a disbelief that a woman was not shaking and terrified and entirely out of her mind before and after being raped.
@@13theartist I was going to just leave a like button but decided what you said warranted a better and more thoughtful response. I will say this for the blind wave guys, they are more open minded and accepting than a lot of men, especially ones I see on reaction channels. That's why I patron them. But going on what you said, it's not just men who don't understand the concept of acquaintance rape or rape when one is in less of a position of power. Some women don't realize that and they just go home and feel awful. When I was in my teens I had some experiences that I knew felt wrong within myself but then I just felt like maybe I was insane for hating and doubting it. I was in college when I learned about the type of rape and then a lot of things made sense suddenly.
You guys are off on the timeline. Definitely not the same day. You're getting thrown off by the unnaturally fast birth thing but long shots of billy and her in bed with him kinda looking at her like he sees that something is wrong implies time has past. He also said, not long after that she sat right here talking about the park bench. But at the very least probably weeks and maybe even months later is when she went missing
Yeah, it's unfortunate that they spent so much time going off-track about this.
100%. Mallory states the video of Homelander and Becca is a few days after the Christmas party. The video Butcher has of Becca in the park before she goes missing is date stamped January 24th.
It was most of the conversation on such a weird tangent that got them all thinking wrong about everything. Like she looked distraught/disheveled leaving the room w/ Homelander and he jumped to she realized she’s pregnant- billy knew she was acting weird and didn’t say anything so we know like 5 different ways it wasn’t the same day but even without that its the weirdest assumption to make.
Like christ she had sex in an office at her new job - thats reason enough right there, idk if anyone at the desk has had good sex much less in public or with a celebrity/boss but you need a second to get dressed or collect your mind kinda no matter what.
But 1. It was with the celebrity who’s account she managed, effectively her boss, potentially for substantial enrichment or promotion in the future,
2. She did that knowing her husband already has severe dislike for Supe’s so at face value its unreconcilable if discovered and she has no one to talk to about that I’m assuming under any contracting or fear of legal action. Beyond that imagine the base level of tension in any relationship with someone generally concerned with their masculinity or integrity and value would be to question or fear the relationship or change in perspective from working with literal incarnate, virtuous gods- much less actually sleeping with them. Her day job was literally creating the Homelander America loved, what the fuck do you think that could do to your perception of them, their identity, their value/importance and your capacity to be in any sense intimate with them could pretty quickly supersede marriage.
3. She wanted to do it and was always into superheroes but was either ashamed of it or any of like 10 reasons those interests would never have gotten through to Billy’s pillarized ideal of his wife - and that opinion changed or sustained at any part of that experience or hadn’t accounted for the reality of it may hit you fast after.
4. Maybe she seems a little physically disheveled because she had sex with fucking superman for probably like 2 hours- jesus fucking christ how does that never enter the equation (I get the visual language clearly doesn’t focus on that and he’s shown to be a bit of a sub at least for Stillwater).
5. Beyond like every situation in an office where your boss or person who’s happiness determines your continued employment inherently being an unbalanced power dynamic creating issues for consent, when that person is the most insanely powerful and respected person on the planet who can’t smile with his damn eyes and manipulates for effect, tension or pressure in every damn scene it’s entirely possible that a new accounts exec being favored for her work would turn up flirtation expecting it to go nowhere as the casual thing to do in response to personal admiration or attention. We’ve seen this fucker get freaky damn fast so the second he even minorly reciprocates that attention (like fucking superheroes are terrified of including The Deep who’s traumatized by some forms of abuse experienced here) well she like Stillwater and Maeve do the entire show think it is better to keep things as low stakes and/or positive as possible, even unto boning- this is also a common feeling in a world without superheroes that jackholes on the internet dismiss missing 20 years of social context around later reported rape allegations.
I’m not even sure it’s possible to consent to having sex with Homelander, his actual relationship with his map of the world is through coercion, lies, manipulation because well lots of reasons; childhood, mom stuff, but also he shed any semblance of his identity that could be linked to a normal human life, developed sociopathic tendencies either as a mechanism or from inherent precursors to relate to people through empathy he never had a chance or environment to develop. But mostly because in every circumstance his profound divine shadow of celebrity, money, morality, and his clear willingness to turn many situations into a reminder of his completely crazy power level, or just his powers’ presence no matter how they come up it could disqualify consent. The only person on the table would have been Maeve and its made very clear through nearly every scene about her that her life is not her design, that she can’t even talk about that, she has to pretend not to care so Homelander won’t fuck with stuff to retain social capital in his eyes for when he goes crazy, and she had to cut her life partner out of her life due to that relationship. If he wants anything out of that relationship or is at risk of having any kind of mildly angry outburst every person, place, or thing she’s even known or loved are potential causalties.
He doesn’t have the Fortress of Solitude to ensure Lois Lane doesn’t snap on half, nor any grounding or context for how normal people would relate to one another- every conversation he’s ever had except with the Doctor who was ashamed of him was people pleading with a god, they bargain, they lie, they idolize or extol the virtues of him- his punditry is regarded as divine despite the completely terrifying implications (go figure), and even the person who’s shown to control him in this season was Stillwater who bargains like a warlock. The god is a lonely broken child who never had a mother tho so its a petulant child making everyone all the more cautious to avoid casual contact and prefer to leave it to the “clergy” at Vought.
6. Its clear that just like with Butcher and Hughie, Mallory was giving voice to a narrative that would drive him to rage and action, implying and establishing that all superheroes are immoral are the second domino on that list. From Mallory to Butcher to Hughie the need to lie, and spin becomes a key inherent skill to survive- every single person who meets Butcher remembers the experience as one of overextension, loss or being taken advantage or dragged into his problems. Like with everything else where’d he get that from? Definitely Mallory and like with Butcher it framed their whole initial interaction til he was in too deep to question motives or narratives.
Wow christ saving this for future essays, tldr they were weird assumptions
Nothing like a bunch of boys cheering when they are told nudity will be in a show🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻😂😂
surfitlive which is a shame
@surfitlive Its not all male though. They are just showing logical nudity. Most shows avoid male nudity is all so it shows more here.
surfitlive no they show tits in the strip club scene
“I WANTED SO MUCH MORE”
Sorry guys, (except maybe Eric) you're not quite right about all Becca stuff. A few weeks passed at least. When Mesmer punches Butcher you see a flashback oh him and Becca sitting at the table and he says 'talk to me', so clearly this is after the rape and she's in shock, probably with the realisation already that she is pregnant. Also on the park bench she was wearing pants, so it's a different day.
Also, saying 3 hours is too long for a rape to occur?! Cmon guys, maybe he tied her up or she passed out from pain? Homelander is a sociopath, I'm pretty sure you can just assume that the very worst occured, based on all the information we are given.
100% A lot of mental gymnastics to avoid r*pe as a possibility.
No sympathy for A-Train. He's trying to play the morality/intent card on Hughie, but he was laughing after killing his girlfriend, and killed his own willingly, regardless of whether he thought he'd be in trouble if he didn't.
Andre it was a statement of how terrible a person he was that he was blaming Hughie for bone girl’s death when A-Train was the guy who actually murdered her.
@@mhan00 Yeah that makes sense. One of them said they felt bad for him (I think Aaron but I don't want to go through the video to check) and that's what prompted my comment I think.
Jesus christ i’ve been spoiled on sooo many potential plot points by comments just blatantly going “well in the comics...” like man shut up not everyone read them
To be honest, it seems like the comics are so radically different that I highly doubt the show is going to follow them. From what I’ve heard about the comics plotlines I already prefer the show.
Yeah they’re pretty different. And potential is not a true spoiler so idc 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah I had the same thing.
Yeah people who read source material really don't know what spoilers are. I have been spoiled on so many stories because some idiot either blatantly says it or says "spoiler they die in the end" clearly having no idea that many people read too fast to avoid it. I also have an eidetic memory for spoilers which is just great. Its like a combination of my normal story memory which is good combined with the fact that negative experiences imprint really well.
You cut the whole scene with Homelander and starlight. Was waiting for that. Great scene.
Not only did she look distraught slash look like she was reconnecting after mentally disconnecting from the body homelander would have known she was pregnant if she was already glowing from inside of her stomach
Calvin aaron really saying that her going into his office laughing means it was probably consensual is discus ting
shane*, but yeah it's like they completely forgot the scene at the beginning where she agrees to help Homelander with his social media, of course she'd go into his room willingly and in good spirits when nothing bad has happened yet and she thinks its just a business meeting.
Yeah... I'm unsuscribing. People like that give me the ICK.
I was so uncomfortable with Shane’s opinions about Becca and Homelander’s scene..
Welp a year later and he has resigned due to acting inappropriately with fans and other members of Blind Wave. Goes to show there's always red flags to pick up on.
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 Wait that's why he was kicked out? I didn't know that
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 it wasn’t because of fans. Stop spreading lies. It was about stuff between the group. And wasn’t kicked either. He resigned
@@tortoiseoflegends4466 I always knew he was kicked out and couldn’t have been for a good reason bc no one really made a statement, thanks for the background.
@@damonestephens8722 There's a statement on Twitter by Blind Wave themselves talking about his "inappropriate behaviour and breaches of trust against Blind Wave and the community". He absolutely acted inappropriately towards fans, unless you're calling Blind Wave themselves liars.
Can't post the link as links get deleted in the comments section, but it's definitely there. Look up "Another statement from Blind Wave about Shane" it'll be the top result.
And sure he resigned, but he was almost certainly asked to by the others which is common practice in these situations. From the same statement: "We reached a point where we had to take action to hold Shane accountable for his actions."
They made so many changes to the comics. Honestly this is one of the rare cases where that actually ends up being good. The Deep and A-Train have completely different storylines. Not to mention Homelander is very different, but this is much more to the benefit of the show. Either way you got a lot to look forward to.
The gill scene with The Deep was a big one for me. It was so uncomfortable to watch, but made a good point. Still curious about if he gets a redemption arc or not and how they go about it.
It’s up for debate in the tv show if Butcher’s wife and Homelander were consensual or not. But I don’t believe it was on the same day and the 3hr pregnancy doesn’t hold water.
I really hope The Deep gets a redemption arc, but then again I always prefer redemption arcs over someone getting killed off (which seems more likely than anything else in this show). He seems like he really wants to do the right thing more than half the time, but was in his position of power for too long where he can do shitty things without major repercussions.
Have you not watched the whole season?
i don't know if it made a good point, i actually had an issue with this character arc. someone does not need to and should not have to experience sexual assault to know/understand how bad it is, and him experiencing a sexual assault should not be a narrative device to make him more sympathetic to the audience.
i love this show, and i actually like the character; just my thoughts on the writers' decisions
@@dermathze700 I personally got no sympathy for the deep but wouldn't mind a ra
James Liggins Yh also, I think starting off with him sexually assaulting Starlight was a bad move if you want to make us sympathise with him later on.
When I first saw the gills scene I wanted to claw my eyes out with a spoon...it was the worst thing ever 😂
This reaction just proves how good this show is, the emotions and guttural reactions this show evokes is unlike any show currently airing
Carmine Falcone from Gotham!!👏👏👏 Such a frest actor! And omg, Homelander is absolutely amazing!!😮
In the comics Starlight was the one who kept having a bad time, from the Seven running a train on her and repeatedly getting shit on by Vaught. I guess it was a running joke by Ennis but he started to feel bad and made her get a slow redemption/revenge arc. In the show they flipped it and are shitting on the Deep instead. I don't think there's a redemption for him, I think he's just getting shit on for fun.
Damn. I'm glad the show didn't go that route with Starlight's story. Gross that the author thought it was running joke material.
When he said 'Is that our boy?' I instantly flashed back to the Stephen King book, Talisman, and the Territory Trees reaching out their feelers asking 'Is that OUR boy?' as they quested around for Jack Sawyer.
Oh my God. Thanks, Eric, for mentioning Patty. I didn't notice the resemblance until now.
"IT'S BOOTY-SPIVOT!" as a flash fan, I laughed so loud.
You should start those videos with: "My name is (etc.) and WE ARE......THE BOYS"
Considering kumiko was still fairly new to the group and they did chain her up at first I do think it would be nice to see what he said that got her to come with him or if she insisted on coming with him or like whatever happened in between him getting the phone call from a train and showing up at the place
This show is so fucking good !!.
They do such a great job of humanizing almost every character where you understand them even if you don’t like them .
"She didn't put everything back in" 😂😂😂 goddammit Rick
Hhahaaha being Youngstown, OH born and raised since I saw this series ive been waiting for you guys to get to this Episode of the show for the dig at Akron Hahahah such a great show
2:21 This was my honest reaction when he said it was Patty, I knew I'd seen Becca's actress before but I didn't know where and I was flabbergasted when I realized.
3:12.
"I'm worried about his dick!"
Goddammit Calvin! You said what everyone thinks during a sex scene with a supe. I'm on the floor!
*Looks at Starlight*
Broly: "What's your power level?"
"I don't know, pretty big"
aa ron trying to justify consent based on two people walking in a room????glad he`s not a judge
Yep
He's a fucking weirdo
Scary, right?
I went to the University of Akron and I've been waiting for this episode..."where is she from AKRON?" Lmao, Ya probably
1:34 love how happy they got when they saw there was gonna be nudity in the episode 😂
😂😂😂
@12:25 The look on Eric's face. This is a damn good show.
The actress who plays Becca also plays, Karen Baldwin, in "For All Mankind".
I love how you guys have so many trains of thought that come up later in the comics. But what I love about this show is the changes they have.
These guys are always so weird when they discuss rape... "oh his hand was on her back" as if that is clear consent from her? Maybe learn some more before you speak on such a sensitive subject. It's like that Torchwood episode all over again.
Sheesh. They've said similar shit before? Unsubscribed.
@byunbaekhyun4010 Yeah, it's like the fourth time by now 😬
Once you guys are done with this show I recommend you check out The Umbrella Academy on Netflix.
Along with The Boys and Doom Patrol it is my favorite comic book television of the year. Plus it has
Tom Hopper who I know you all love from Game of Thrones and Black Sails
If you haven't noticed, homelander is very possessive over his people. When translucent is missing Homelander was very focused and obsessed, Starlight, he showed a little possessiveness but not much as she's new, Queen Mave he's super possessive as well as the woman who is his mother/lover. He's possessive over people like a young child who doesn't want to share. I think the reason they wouldn't tell him that they killed her is that Homelander would be pissed. He thinks he is practically god. It's okay for him to deliver punish over people and would never let someone else punish his own property, especially if he had some feelings towards Butcher's wife which is likely as he got teary eyes hearing her fate..
So Eric believes a woman walking into a room with a guy, means the woman consented to sex. That is just amazing believe in this day and age.
But they were in there for 3 hours and becca came 3 times so it pretty seems like she consented to it.
@JXYIINN IMO SA I think he was just saying that to make Bill mad. Homelander is a sociopath and he believes himself to be a god. He may actually believe that no woman could turn him down.
@@lagnok I agree, but also the whole being pregnant in 3 hours thing is nuts.
@@marcuswolve7297 I doubt he immediately started raping her once they walked in. And as for the cumming three times thing, most men can't even tell when a woman cums in a normal situation much less when she is being raped.
@@marcuswolve7297 i hope after 2 years you now know you are very wrong
Well with Becca and homelander it depends because the rape victim can be assaulted for like 5 minutes or be held against their will for days or weeks or years at a time it depends on the assailant so when you have somebody like Superman you're not going to get away until he wants you to get away so to say like 3 hours means she wasn't raped is really stupid to say
Right? The logic is giving me goosebumps out of disgust.
Akasan throwin’ some friendly shade/banter at Blindwave in his review of episode 8 of The Boys.
9:59 "Mesmer sees dead people"
0:13 ahh everybody loves Jaley Joel Josmond, the great child actor.
The show is fantastic and I can't wait for season 2.
Im sorry, but how tf can you "sympathise" with Homelander?? Also, im really concerned how you think that walking into a room = consent to sex.
THANK YOU.
YES. EXACTLY 💯.
I’m so glad you wrote this comment
“Where is this girl from? Akron!” I’m dead.
8:25 you can see his bare foot come out the desk
Omg I knew Becca was familiar but I never realized where I saw her from till now. I loved Patty from Flash, she was my favorite love interest her character was amazing.
I just can't wait for season 2 of this and Shane has seen much worse they all have than Deep getting finger banged lol
Can't wait for you guys to see episode 8 and be anxious for season 2 with the rest of us!
While it's comical to think that the Deep is assigned to Ohio, I had a friend that was stationed in Oklahoma. . .while he was in the Coast Guard.
I would rather Superman believe 100% that I murdered Lois Lane then to live in the same world as homelander and have the chance of accidentally meeting him and having him decide to do whatever
I am so confused as to why in the world Aaron seems dead set against Homelander having raped Becca. Shane's doubts make sense cause he's Shane, I guess, but everyone in the comments here are talking about Shane's thought process being sus, but from what I'm seeing Aaron is the one pushing the issue. The statement "when she walked in it was consensual" made my soul cringe. Make it stop.
Damn. So true. I don't know why consent is such a hard thing to grasp and why people RUSH to justify what is so clearly rape. It's sick and disgusting.
Calvin had the same "ahhhhhhh yeahhhh" when Jon snow. in "Watchers on the wall" put a hammer through the thenn's head 😭😭
Ugh! The Assumptions are Disgusting! And I am specifically talking about Aaron and Shane.
Yeah. True. The rush to justify and/or dismiss rape is driving me wild.
11:23 Holy shit it’s Caesar from New Vegas
Wait till they watch the next episode
4:46 If only- *AMAZON* could do this with their- *TITLE CARD* in other shows like- *INVINCIBLE*
I love how they all cheered when they realized there was nudity
A-Train killed popclaw because Homelander told him too. He blames Hugie because if Hughie hadn't gotten involved Popclaw wouldn't have to die. So it wasn't really narcissism but blame shifting cause he can't admit that he was too afraid of Homelander and killed his own girlfriend.
He said "Jings".
That makes me so happy.
I'm from ohio and love the show lol when I heard Sandusky ohio I was like 😲😲
Calvin is smarter than all of them 🧠
You guys need to react to Gotham at some point
Sadly they already said that they don't like it, also the shows haters won't ever vote for it in the polls.
Great show.great reaction guys.i would love to hang out with u dudes and smoke a bowl with yas.👍from a fan in scotland
3:40 he's just sayin what we're all thinking.
how I wish you guys watched Banshee bc Antony Starr was amazing in that show