Darnold has not been in these ultra high pressure situations at any time in his career. If getting beat like this is what it takes to get adjusted to the big time games, I'd much rather have it happen in the regular season than in the playoffs.
@@bossman2873 Honestly, F off dude... I understand not wanting to get your hopes up, but saying we're going to be one and done because of one bad loss after nine straight wins is a level of negativity I can't comprehend. And I think I'm more pessimistic than most.
Excellent point & kudos for having a realistic & patient view in sports! Too many folks mistakenly believe that people are born with a certain amount of motivation, intelligence & talent, and nothing can change how much they have. This leads to the sort of reactions we see all too often, where athletes are written-off immediately after one bad game or one bad season, students are told they will never succeed in a certain subject, musicians are supposedly all washed up after a disappointing performance/album, etc., etc. Instead, the truth is that success & 'greatness' involves a ton of skill development & refinement, which requires persevering when it gets tough & learning from one's own mistakes. Tom Brady, Shohei Ohtani, Michael Jordan & Wayne Gretzky were not born with all that 'greatness' in their sport of choice, they earned it through ridiculous amounts of hard work & determination.
This could have been the best thing that could’ve happened to the Vikings now is time to start a five game winning streak, I still say this team has what it needs and what it takes
They rolled over and not looked competitive. The concern is that they dont have that fire going into the playoffs. The takeaway is that despite their great record, they dont send the message that they are a top team that competes against other top teams.
They play better when everyone counts them out. Hopefully they turn the page and go back to what they did during that 10 game win streak. EDIT: whoops 9 game win streak; same difference
*There's one thing I'd like to add re KOC & his contribution to the embarrassing play of Darnold and the Offence in general.* *I will suggest that Aaron Glenn used KOC's mindset to psychologically manipulate KOC to the Lions' advantage.* *Here's how Glen pulled it off...* *1.* Everyone knows that the Lions' secondary is not very good at pass coverage AND the Lions' front seven is fast & aggressive. Everyone also knows that KOC loves an aggressive pass game. So, in all likelyhood, as the week of preparation progressed, KOC decided that the best way to beat the Lions was to frequently attack their weakness with deep throws to JJ, JA, TJ, Speedy, etc. *2.* What Glen did was devise a game plan that suckered KOC into that game plan. By playing press coverage & a very physical man-on-man coverage, he dared KOC to call slow-developing plays that asked Darnold to hold on to the ball & wait for receivers to come open deep. *3* Glen also got extremely aggressive with shutting down the run & blitzing as often as needed, This enabled the Lions to destroy the Vikings' weakness on offence, namely the Vikes' weak iOL & the O-line's problems with picking up blitzes *4.* With KOC locked into playing 'long ball', and the Lions getting a lead in the game, KOC naturally chose to stick with his game plan, rather than adjust at half-time. To ensure this, Glen also kept on dangling the carrot (via man coverage for the rest of the game, rather than using zone more often). *5.* The added benefit to Glen's approach was to minimize the wear & tear on the Lions' banged-up, short-staffed front-7 by tempting KOC to give up on the run game & go for deep passes. *6.* I believe that this, in part, explains why (a) KOC/Phillips did not go to a short passing game in the second half, and (b) since the O-line did not get any better & KOC/Phillips stuck with their game plan, Darnold was forced to function in the same scheme in the 2nd half that he failed to execute in the first half. So...if I my hunch is correct...kudos to the Lions' DC, Glen, for his successful psychologically, strategically & tactically sophisticated game plan! From a Vikes fan's perspective, it sucks, but this Vikes fan will give credit where credit is due! Feel free to share your feedback re my 'theory'. SKOL!
Excellent analysis Derek. I would add that on the offensive side of the ball, Dan Campbell got us a couple times with everyone "knowing" his tendencies (always going for it on 4th down with the same cadence), and then he went the opposite and used that to his advantage, like the hard count that Goof got us to jump on 4th down and picked up the first.
@@geeleeskolvikes Thank you! And your point & example is a good one! The Lions certainly were trying every psychological angle they could find, and they knew that when an athlete gets fatigued, he/she is prone to mental mistakes.. At that point in the game, the Vikes defence was getting worn out, so they chose the right moment. This reinforces the fact that the Lions are very good at finishing off an opponent once they get ahead. Whether we like it or not, Vikes fans must accept that the Lions do deserve a lot of respect....although I still believe that they can be defeated IF their opponent plays good football, and they're not a lock to make it to the Super Bowl!
@@derekbaker3279 100% agree. It shows Dan Campbell's ability to adjust and after they got in our OODA loop, we couldn't recover. Our coaching staff looked lost out there, almost a flaying around vibe. We also struggled a bit that way against the Rams during round one if I recall. Back to the Lions, they do deserve respect. They kicked our butts and we were out coached. I agree, they are not a lock for the Super Bowl. Anyone of the remaining teams can beat them IF they play their best game. Let's hope that KOC figures it out for the Rams... and hopefully we get a third shot at them in round 2 or round 3... SKOL!!
@@geeleeskolvikes A question: If we're the top seed among 3 wild card teams & have a better record than any of the division winners except Detroit, is there a way we can face the Lions the week after we beat the Rams? I thought that the only way a rematch could occur is if we beat the Rams, then win our second playoff game against either Philly, Washington, Tampa or Green Bay. (...I must admit, it would be fun to play the GGGBPs & beat them for a third time this season (a rare occurrence in the NFL)..THEN go into Detroit and crush their hopes in the NFL Championship game! lol..). SKOL!
We need a quick game, we haven't had one in idk how long. I get a game plan but in my honest opinion KOC is to blame for the loss. No adjustments at all on offense.
I agree 100% that KOC, Wes Phillips & Josh McCown have to take responsibility for their failures in that embarrassing loss. They did not devise a game plan, or make the necessary adjustments that would have put the Vikes players on offence in a position to succeed. Having said that, a lot of players on offence & special teams just did not play well.
Darnold obviously missed some of his throws, but watching some of the replays that NBC showed from behind offense, it didn't look like our guys were even getting open half the time, making Sam hold onto the ball longer than normal. Even Jets running his route right into two guys and JA having a sticky corner all over him. Great D scheme by Aaron Glenn.
You have to score in the red zone. Getting the ball on the 7 from a turnover and coming away with 3 points…. Demoralizing for the team. Typical Vikings let down… this is going to bleed over into the rams game.
I agree with everything except your last point. IMHO, it is not inevitable that the poor play of the offence will 'bleed over into the Rams game'. If the coaching staff & players don't accept responsibility for the embarrassing performance of the offence & special teams, they will not learn from their mistakes & improve...and that will make it more likely that the Vikes will suck again when they play the Rams. However, one thing that brought about 14 wins this year is the fact that the coaches & players DO learn from their mistakes, so I am optimistic they will learn from Sunday night's debacle.
Come on fellow Vikings fan let’s have faith in our team and pray if you have to, it’s no shame in that, it may look like a David Goliath David and Goliath situation, but in Jesus name, let’s do it
This team will learn from their mistakes, we’re going to get this road game against the Rams. KOc will get this team rallied behind this loss we are going to get another shot at the Lions and the Super Bowl Vengeance will be ours! Speak it into existence!
Hope they are pissed and angry. They dropped an egg last night. Hope they go to LA and takes thier anger out on the rams. Defense offense and special teams
Was KOC getting the play calls in fast enough? That 1st half I saw to many times where the play clock nearly ran out. Then Darnold seemed to be rushed and didn't set his feet and threw high so many times. Coach needs to get these calls in faster.
Our defense held up well considering what they had to carry I thought. Detroit would have dropped 50 on a bad defense if their offense was doing the shit we were doing. We have to hold our own so that the defense isn't spending the entire game doing everything, and then finally the Lions just bust it open and we can't answer. That is dejecting for ANYBODY, even the strongest people. We figure out what the Lions were doing, we can beat them. We have to be able to hit them in the face offensively. Our defense hit the Lions' offense in the face plenty of times, but our offense looked WEAK. Let's go. It's the same as last week, it's 4 to go. We got set back a week. Nothing changes.
Obviously Darnold played like ass, thank you. To me I'm still BAFFLED why KOC didn't make adjustments at Halftime to beat the Lions Blitz AND why he won't call a fucking run play the RedZone. We NEED to run the ball effectively in the RedZone to win these playoff games. Please get this fixed ASAP and come out swinging until the clock hits 00:00. No more excuses. This playoff game will show how really talented our Coaching Staff really is. The guys will be ready to play. Call a perfect game, make the correct adjustments when needed and let's walk out of LA with a W SKOL!!! 💜💜
Next Monday is D-Day - franchise in this division will have its back against the wall as this is NOT the division of 5 years ago! O’Connell better get his head out of you know what! They all need to toughen up!
If we can figure out how to fix the offense from looking like it did last night from our couch.... shouldn't O'Connell be able to figure it out as a professional?
We have the advantage of not devising & practicing a specific game plan for an entire week, then trying to identify what is going on and correct it from the perspective of the sidelines...all during those brief moments between processing what happened in a play & having to choose/communicate the next onel. I do wonder what KOC was being told by Phillips & other spotters up in the team booth. That was the angle that we basically had, and...yes...we were able to understand what was going on.
Yeah Darnold was definitely on his game in Detroit. Also our OL didn't do him any favors. He got smeared more than a few times. We are capable of soo much more we all know it! But i will never forget that hit Gibbs took from Van Ginkle!! Wow!!! We will shake off this loss and go slap down the Rams!!! This ain't over by a long shot!!! SKOL!!!!
Interesting that the seeding worked out that we now have games back to back again Lions and Rams. Let's not have the same outcome vs. the Rams the second time! SKOL!
Here's a thought, how bout u blitz less, especially on crittical downs. Teams are killing us throwing the ball where line backers are not. Pretty simple
I'm reserving judgment until after the Rams game. I also believed at the start of the season Sam was better than people thought, and he has shown that this year. I'm not writing him off because he had a terrible game in his first big moment. For as long as he's been in the league, he hasn't played these kinds of games before. We've seen him bounce back from bad plays within a game in pressure moments at the end. I've preferred franchise tagging him most of the season, but if he plays another terrible game in L.A., I can't get behind franchise tagging him.
One thing I've noticed, whether it's the Lions, Eagles, Saints, or Giants ... When it comes to big games or playoffs it's ALWAYS the other team seems to "figure" out the Vikings. Never the other way around where the Vikings figured out the other team and runs through them. Just unfortunate
Didn't there line backers set deeper after seeing how Sam would drop those balls over their heads over the 9 games we won? Sam sees that deeper set and knows he has to throw harder and higher - We'rent hard throws the reason at least one ball went through the hands of Jets, Hock, and Adison, that's certainly why the throws went high....Or Sam was nervous - to tight? hmmm...
😢😢😢😢😢 but Andy, we lost, and we had a lot at stake. What I'm most upset about is the offense didn't score a single touchdown 😔. That can't be when you want to go far into the playoffs
Not since Favre have I been really that confident in a Vikings QB. Yes he was a disaster waiting to happen, but he had the killer instinct. Super Bowl caliber QB's are assassins. Darnold is a VERY good QB (as Cousins), but no IT factor.
Why does the national media jabroni haircuts always try to ruin our culture?? “JJ MIGHT GET TRADED YOUR FIRST ROUND PICK” “YOUR BEST COACH IN DECADES MIGHT GET TRADED” Like wtf dude why are they trying to cause negative drama in our camp??
Because mainstream media & many small-scale/independent podcasters/TH-cam personalities know that "bad news sells". Consequently, the mainstream national sports media jebroni haircuts & many podcasters/TH-cam personalities make their money by saying sh*t that garners attention, creates controversies (*) & gets people emotional. Basically, it's 'verbal clickbait', and nothing more (..which is why I only watch PurpleFTW (and sometimes "Between the lines" after games (...because Ben Leber knows his stuff & sees it for what it is..and Tatum knows some football too...) (*) even manufactured controversies with absolutely no basis in fact, e.g. Glazer's crap & most of what comes from Adam Schefter...
Andi - please tell KOC - We need to practice this week at game time every day....Let's go in with synched body clocks this time....Everybody was a step too slow and an not as strong as they were...I have never seen such tight single coverages not get beat - no more weed for Jets and Adison gam e day morning...ok?
Darnold made his mistakes, but coaching made more. Ineffective game plan, didn't adjust to the blitz, run game was non-existent, passed up FGs to try to play Detroit's game. Sure, Detroit likely still wins it, but some points keep you closer than no points. We're not a fourth-down team like the Lions. Love KOC, but he has to adjust better.
Reichard!!! Why aren’t people talking about the problem with the kicker in the Place kicker? It goes blah, blah, blah, blah blah, and that is what we need to talk about is the kicker, and the place kicker. I felt like O’Connell was going for it because he knew that Reichard wasn’t reliable. Which could’ve been a real dapper on his whole intellectual flow for play calling they need to deal with this. Why are they ignoring it?
That was an example of the refs letting the grabbing and man handling way overboard. So now we know. Should let the coaches know. To me and my liking, it sucked. It let's the inferior talent win the coverage contest by grabbing . Same like OL that suck and gotta grab and hold to win the battle. It will ruin the game in my mind and I won't watch it. KOC and other offensive coaches gotta file complaints and get in the Umps face.
EXCELLENT points Steve! I have watched NFL football for 50+ years, and it is true that there always has been a lot of bias/intentional incompetence among some officiating crews. Furthermore, just as you described, NFL officiating crews generally prefer to influence games by what they do not call, rather than what they choose to call. BTW, this was totally the case in the NHL too (*), although IMHO refs in the NHL are no longer as biased as they used to be & with two refs, more infractions behind the play do get caught. (*) for years & years, clutching, grabbing, bullying, plus constantly breaking the rules and daring the refs to call all infractions, etc., etc. were all intentional strategies employed the Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins & some other teams which did not have a lot of skill on their roster...and unfortunately they did get away with it.
Yes, we didn't lose to any crappy teams that we SHOULD beat....like the Vikes used to do. The bad news is that our record also suggests that the Vikes still need to learn how to play well against playoff calibre teams AND that the Vikes must upgrade their talent in just a few areas (especially iOL, iDL & CB..). When it comes to the iOL, I believe that if Darnold had been given good pass protection last night, he would have gotten his head screwed on straight and returned to the level of play we have seen from him in most games this year. IMHO, the absolute priority for Kwesi A-M during the draft & the free agency period is to really upgrade the talent for the iOL...a minimum of two studs for C and LG (or move Risner back to LG & find a stud for RG)
According to Andy, there are some really good free agents available for the positions that Kwesi A-M desperately needs to upgrade, AND there will be enough cap space, even if we bring Darnold back. So, there should be the money to find two free agent studs for the iOL, a free agent stud for the iDL, and a free agent stud for CB. Then Kwesi A-M can supplement our depth with a few good draft picks.
Lions fans are getting disrespectful, during the moment of silence for the New Orleans tragedy before the start of the game they were getting rowdy and I heard a "Vikings Suck" from the crowd on live TV. No class
They played all their back-up players. Very few starters were on the field in that game (which I am sure really p*ssed-off the Bengals, who were hoping the Chiefs would win!)
Darnold has not been in these ultra high pressure situations at any time in his career. If getting beat like this is what it takes to get adjusted to the big time games, I'd much rather have it happen in the regular season than in the playoffs.
Bingo
Or will it take him another 7 years to make that next step?
@@bossman2873 Honestly, F off dude... I understand not wanting to get your hopes up, but saying we're going to be one and done because of one bad loss after nine straight wins is a level of negativity I can't comprehend. And I think I'm more pessimistic than most.
@@bossman2873even if you’re right about this you’re still a douche nozzle
@@JakobCallenius now he knows what ultra high pressure feels like and look like, success power is on.
Talent is something you work on and it takes time.This can be the beginning of a successful team once again.
Excellent point & kudos for having a realistic & patient view in sports! Too many folks mistakenly believe that people are born with a certain amount of motivation, intelligence & talent, and nothing can change how much they have. This leads to the sort of reactions we see all too often, where athletes are written-off immediately after one bad game or one bad season, students are told they will never succeed in a certain subject, musicians are supposedly all washed up after a disappointing performance/album, etc., etc. Instead, the truth is that success & 'greatness' involves a ton of skill development & refinement, which requires persevering when it gets tough & learning from one's own mistakes. Tom Brady, Shohei Ohtani, Michael Jordan & Wayne Gretzky were not born with all that 'greatness' in their sport of choice, they earned it through ridiculous amounts of hard work & determination.
@derekbaker3279 thanks Derek!
Why was the camera always on Sam when he was in the huddle giving out the play?
This could have been the best thing that could’ve happened to the Vikings now is time to start a five game winning streak, I still say this team has what it needs and what it takes
correct! yesterday was an anomaly... but good news only a 4 game winning streak is needed!
@@js002003 5 works, an opening win next season
They rolled over and not looked competitive. The concern is that they dont have that fire going into the playoffs. The takeaway is that despite their great record, they dont send the message that they are a top team that competes against other top teams.
We'll see what happens on MONday. Will we break yet again? Or will something else happen?
They play better when everyone counts them out. Hopefully they turn the page and go back to what they did during that 10 game win streak.
EDIT: whoops 9 game win streak; same difference
*There's one thing I'd like to add re KOC & his contribution to the embarrassing play of Darnold and the Offence in general.* *I will suggest that Aaron Glenn used KOC's mindset to psychologically manipulate KOC to the Lions' advantage.* *Here's how Glen pulled it off...*
*1.* Everyone knows that the Lions' secondary is not very good at pass coverage AND the Lions' front seven is fast & aggressive. Everyone also knows that KOC loves an aggressive pass game. So, in all likelyhood, as the week of preparation progressed, KOC decided that the best way to beat the Lions was to frequently attack their weakness with deep throws to JJ, JA, TJ, Speedy, etc.
*2.* What Glen did was devise a game plan that suckered KOC into that game plan. By playing press coverage & a very physical man-on-man coverage, he dared KOC to call slow-developing plays that asked Darnold to hold on to the ball & wait for receivers to come open deep.
*3* Glen also got extremely aggressive with shutting down the run & blitzing as often as needed, This enabled the Lions to destroy the Vikings' weakness on offence, namely the Vikes' weak iOL & the O-line's problems with picking up blitzes
*4.* With KOC locked into playing 'long ball', and the Lions getting a lead in the game, KOC naturally chose to stick with his game plan, rather than adjust at half-time. To ensure this, Glen also kept on dangling the carrot (via man coverage for the rest of the game, rather than using zone more often).
*5.* The added benefit to Glen's approach was to minimize the wear & tear on the Lions' banged-up, short-staffed front-7 by tempting KOC to give up on the run game & go for deep passes.
*6.* I believe that this, in part, explains why
(a) KOC/Phillips did not go to a short passing game in the second half, and
(b) since the O-line did not get any better & KOC/Phillips stuck with their game plan, Darnold was forced to function in the same scheme in the 2nd half that he failed to execute in the first half.
So...if I my hunch is correct...kudos to the Lions' DC, Glen, for his successful psychologically, strategically & tactically sophisticated game plan! From a Vikes fan's perspective, it sucks, but this Vikes fan will give credit where credit is due!
Feel free to share your feedback re my 'theory'. SKOL!
Excellent analysis Derek. I would add that on the offensive side of the ball, Dan Campbell got us a couple times with everyone "knowing" his tendencies (always going for it on 4th down with the same cadence), and then he went the opposite and used that to his advantage, like the hard count that Goof got us to jump on 4th down and picked up the first.
@@geeleeskolvikes Thank you! And your point & example is a good one! The Lions certainly were trying every psychological angle they could find, and they knew that when an athlete gets fatigued, he/she is prone to mental mistakes.. At that point in the game, the Vikes defence was getting worn out, so they chose the right moment. This reinforces the fact that the Lions are very good at finishing off an opponent once they get ahead.
Whether we like it or not, Vikes fans must accept that the Lions do deserve a lot of respect....although I still believe that they can be defeated IF their opponent plays good football, and they're not a lock to make it to the Super Bowl!
@@derekbaker3279 100% agree. It shows Dan Campbell's ability to adjust and after they got in our OODA loop, we couldn't recover. Our coaching staff looked lost out there, almost a flaying around vibe. We also struggled a bit that way against the Rams during round one if I recall.
Back to the Lions, they do deserve respect. They kicked our butts and we were out coached. I agree, they are not a lock for the Super Bowl. Anyone of the remaining teams can beat them IF they play their best game. Let's hope that KOC figures it out for the Rams... and hopefully we get a third shot at them in round 2 or round 3... SKOL!!
@@geeleeskolvikes Well said ! SKOL!
@@geeleeskolvikes A question: If we're the top seed among 3 wild card teams & have a better record than any of the division winners except Detroit, is there a way we can face the Lions the week after we beat the Rams? I thought that the only way a rematch could occur is if we beat the Rams, then win our second playoff game against either Philly, Washington, Tampa or Green Bay. (...I must admit, it would be fun to play the GGGBPs & beat them for a third time this season (a rare occurrence in the NFL)..THEN go into Detroit and crush their hopes in the NFL Championship game! lol..). SKOL!
We need a quick game, we haven't had one in idk how long. I get a game plan but in my honest opinion KOC is to blame for the loss. No adjustments at all on offense.
I agree 100% that KOC, Wes Phillips & Josh McCown have to take responsibility for their failures in that embarrassing loss. They did not devise a game plan, or make the necessary adjustments that would have put the Vikes players on offence in a position to succeed. Having said that, a lot of players on offence & special teams just did not play well.
Darnold obviously missed some of his throws, but watching some of the replays that NBC showed from behind offense, it didn't look like our guys were even getting open half the time, making Sam hold onto the ball longer than normal. Even Jets running his route right into two guys and JA having a sticky corner all over him. Great D scheme by Aaron Glenn.
The focus is on fixing and beating the Rams and the next ones! SKOL! 🏈💜💛
You have to score in the red zone. Getting the ball on the 7 from a turnover and coming away with 3 points…. Demoralizing for the team. Typical Vikings let down… this is going to bleed over into the rams game.
I agree with everything except your last point. IMHO, it is not inevitable that the poor play of the offence will 'bleed over into the Rams game'. If the coaching staff & players don't accept responsibility for the embarrassing performance of the offence & special teams, they will not learn from their mistakes & improve...and that will make it more likely that the Vikes will suck again when they play the Rams. However, one thing that brought about 14 wins this year is the fact that the coaches & players DO learn from their mistakes, so I am optimistic they will learn from Sunday night's debacle.
Are they going to address the kicker issue?
I hope KOC can get back to the quick passing game offense against blitzing teams. Let Darnold get the ball out of his hands quickly.
Successful season, successful playoffs, successful Super Bowl. I stand with KLC and Sam Donald, go Vikings
KOC
O quick passes when they were blitzing MN, where was the extra TE to help block? Sam was just off with his throws and receivers were open
Come on fellow Vikings fan let’s have faith in our team and pray if you have to, it’s no shame in that, it may look like a David Goliath David and Goliath situation, but in Jesus name, let’s do it
This team will learn from their mistakes, we’re going to get this road game against the Rams. KOc will get this team rallied behind this loss we are going to get another shot at the Lions and the Super Bowl Vengeance will be ours! Speak it into existence!
Hope they are pissed and angry. They dropped an egg last night. Hope they go to LA and takes thier anger out on the rams. Defense offense and special teams
Keystone is actually from the same barrel as Coors Light. It’s just the bottom half of the barrel
if darnold can't get his head straight, nothing else will matter. and ditto if KOC can't problem solve during games
Was KOC getting the play calls in fast enough? That 1st half I saw to many times where the play clock nearly ran out. Then Darnold seemed to be rushed and didn't set his feet and threw high so many times. Coach needs to get these calls in faster.
More optimistic than I am.
Our defense held up well considering what they had to carry I thought. Detroit would have dropped 50 on a bad defense if their offense was doing the shit we were doing. We have to hold our own so that the defense isn't spending the entire game doing everything, and then finally the Lions just bust it open and we can't answer. That is dejecting for ANYBODY, even the strongest people. We figure out what the Lions were doing, we can beat them. We have to be able to hit them in the face offensively. Our defense hit the Lions' offense in the face plenty of times, but our offense looked WEAK.
Let's go. It's the same as last week, it's 4 to go. We got set back a week. Nothing changes.
Great points!
Unpopular opinion: Hockenson took a careful approach when receiving passes over the middle of the field.
Yes, to some degree, Hock was a little cautious. It's also true that he was being held & interfered with during almost every pass route he ran.
Obviously Darnold played like ass, thank you. To me I'm still BAFFLED why KOC didn't make adjustments at Halftime to beat the Lions Blitz AND why he won't call a fucking run play the RedZone. We NEED to run the ball effectively in the RedZone to win these playoff games. Please get this fixed ASAP and come out swinging until the clock hits 00:00. No more excuses. This playoff game will show how really talented our Coaching Staff really is. The guys will be ready to play. Call a perfect game, make the correct adjustments when needed and let's walk out of LA with a W
SKOL!!! 💜💜
Is that 5-7 plays where the offense failed to execute, or is it a typo and should be 57?
lol It certainly felt like 57 ! lol
Next Monday is D-Day - franchise in this division will have its back against the wall as this is NOT the division of 5 years ago! O’Connell better get his head out of you know what! They all need to toughen up!
If we can figure out how to fix the offense from looking like it did last night from our couch.... shouldn't O'Connell be able to figure it out as a professional?
We have the advantage of not devising & practicing a specific game plan for an entire week, then trying to identify what is going on and correct it from the perspective of the sidelines...all during those brief moments between processing what happened in a play & having to choose/communicate the next onel. I do wonder what KOC was being told by Phillips & other spotters up in the team booth. That was the angle that we basically had, and...yes...we were able to understand what was going on.
I like my Vikings underdogs anyway. Burn them boats ain’t got nun to lose
You arent a Vikings fan if you say the Vikings are frauds or whatever. Skol all the way and i will be a true fan til i die👍
Yeah Darnold was definitely on his game in Detroit. Also our OL didn't do him any favors. He got smeared more than a few times. We are capable of soo much more we all know it! But i will never forget that hit Gibbs took from Van Ginkle!! Wow!!! We will shake off this loss and go slap down the Rams!!! This ain't over by a long shot!!! SKOL!!!!
Interesting that the seeding worked out that we now have games back to back again Lions and Rams. Let's not have the same outcome vs. the Rams the second time! SKOL!
Here's a thought, how bout u blitz less, especially on crittical downs. Teams are killing us throwing the ball where line backers are not. Pretty simple
Started the season a Darnold Defender, had to become a McCarthy Mule once Darnold became overhyped. Bring Sam back 1yr $15mil or let him walk.
He gets a franchise tag at most
I'm reserving judgment until after the Rams game. I also believed at the start of the season Sam was better than people thought, and he has shown that this year. I'm not writing him off because he had a terrible game in his first big moment. For as long as he's been in the league, he hasn't played these kinds of games before. We've seen him bounce back from bad plays within a game in pressure moments at the end. I've preferred franchise tagging him most of the season, but if he plays another terrible game in L.A., I can't get behind franchise tagging him.
One thing I've noticed, whether it's the Lions, Eagles, Saints, or Giants ... When it comes to big games or playoffs it's ALWAYS the other team seems to "figure" out the Vikings. Never the other way around where the Vikings figured out the other team and runs through them. Just unfortunate
They will never let MINNESOTA Teams win except the lynx and Twins. 😅😅😅
How about KOC fix? Like call a timeout once in a while!
Or do some play action or short pass design plays
As much as Darnold shit the bed last night, KOC didn’t do him much favors either. Run the ball, call the easy plays, like RB/WR screens, slants, etc..
He was frozen which made everybody frozen
Didn't there line backers set deeper after seeing how Sam would drop those balls over their heads over the 9 games we won? Sam sees that deeper set and knows he has to throw harder and higher - We'rent hard throws the reason at least one ball went through the hands of Jets, Hock, and Adison, that's certainly why the throws went high....Or Sam was nervous - to tight? hmmm...
😢😢😢😢😢 but Andy, we lost, and we had a lot at stake. What I'm most upset about is the offense didn't score a single touchdown 😔. That can't be when you want to go far into the playoffs
Not since Favre have I been really that confident in a Vikings QB. Yes he was a disaster waiting to happen, but he had the killer instinct.
Super Bowl caliber QB's are assassins. Darnold is a VERY good QB (as Cousins), but no IT factor.
Why does the national media jabroni haircuts always try to ruin our culture??
“JJ MIGHT GET TRADED YOUR FIRST ROUND PICK”
“YOUR BEST COACH IN DECADES MIGHT GET TRADED”
Like wtf dude why are they trying to cause negative drama in our camp??
Because mainstream media & many small-scale/independent podcasters/TH-cam personalities know that "bad news sells". Consequently, the mainstream national sports media jebroni haircuts & many podcasters/TH-cam personalities make their money by saying sh*t that garners attention, creates controversies (*) & gets people emotional. Basically, it's 'verbal clickbait', and nothing more (..which is why I only watch PurpleFTW (and sometimes "Between the lines" after games (...because Ben Leber knows his stuff & sees it for what it is..and Tatum knows some football too...)
(*) even manufactured controversies with absolutely no basis in fact, e.g. Glazer's crap & most of what comes from Adam Schefter...
Who would believe the k/C Chiefs would get shut out?
KOC looking like slingblade in that still
Andi - please tell KOC - We need to practice this week at game time every day....Let's go in with synched body clocks this time....Everybody was a step too slow and an not as strong as they were...I have never seen such tight single coverages not get beat - no more weed for Jets and Adison gam e day morning...ok?
Darnold made his mistakes, but coaching made more. Ineffective game plan, didn't adjust to the blitz, run game was non-existent, passed up FGs to try to play Detroit's game. Sure, Detroit likely still wins it, but some points keep you closer than no points. We're not a fourth-down team like the Lions. Love KOC, but he has to adjust better.
KOC is not happy.
Reichard!!! Why aren’t people talking about the problem with the kicker in the Place kicker? It goes blah, blah, blah, blah blah, and that is what we need to talk about is the kicker, and the place kicker. I felt like O’Connell was going for it because he knew that Reichard wasn’t reliable. Which could’ve been a real dapper on his whole intellectual flow for play calling they need to deal with this. Why are they ignoring it?
We are talking aboit the Vikinga in the playoffs. One and done is more likely than not against the other team that beat them regular season 😂
Rams already bet us is my fear
my grandpa sent me a pic of him with harrison phillips at mystic lake, shouldnt phillips be resting!?!!
Keystone… yeah, college😉
That was an example of the refs letting the grabbing and man handling way overboard. So now we know. Should let the coaches know. To me and my liking, it sucked. It let's the inferior talent win the coverage contest by grabbing . Same like OL that suck and gotta grab and hold to win the battle. It will ruin the game in my mind and I won't watch it. KOC and other offensive coaches gotta file complaints and get in the Umps face.
EXCELLENT points Steve! I have watched NFL football for 50+ years, and it is true that there always has been a lot of bias/intentional incompetence among some officiating crews. Furthermore, just as you described, NFL officiating crews generally prefer to influence games by what they do not call, rather than what they choose to call. BTW, this was totally the case in the NHL too (*), although IMHO refs in the NHL are no longer as biased as they used to be & with two refs, more infractions behind the play do get caught.
(*) for years & years, clutching, grabbing, bullying, plus constantly breaking the rules and daring the refs to call all infractions, etc., etc. were all intentional strategies employed the Philadelphia Flyers, Boston Bruins & some other teams which did not have a lot of skill on their roster...and unfortunately they did get away with it.
Trade KOC and promote B Flo.
Don't forget the only other team we lost against was the rams.
The good thing three losses to playoff teams
Yes, we didn't lose to any crappy teams that we SHOULD beat....like the Vikes used to do. The bad news is that our record also suggests that the Vikes still need to learn how to play well against playoff calibre teams AND that the Vikes must upgrade their talent in just a few areas (especially iOL, iDL & CB..). When it comes to the iOL, I believe that if Darnold had been given good pass protection last night, he would have gotten his head screwed on straight and returned to the level of play we have seen from him in most games this year. IMHO, the absolute priority for Kwesi A-M during the draft & the free agency period is to really upgrade the talent for the iOL...a minimum of two studs for C and LG (or move Risner back to LG & find a stud for RG)
This is why you trade JJ or Darnold. They need a top CB. Try to get Travis Hunter.
According to Andy, there are some really good free agents available for the positions that Kwesi A-M desperately needs to upgrade, AND there will be enough cap space, even if we bring Darnold back. So, there should be the money to find two free agent studs for the iOL, a free agent stud for the iDL, and a free agent stud for CB. Then Kwesi A-M can supplement our depth with a few good draft picks.
Vikes were picked to win 6 games this year! They won 14 so suck it haters!!! Hell of a season. Skil!
Mann! If vikings won that game, you would of heard about a depleted lions D, okay they played above average, next game!🤬
Dont bring back darnold i know he was a phony know rt he wasn't it im not going to go deep in to ot but let him walk
Stupid question. Waste of time.
Lions fans are getting disrespectful, during the moment of silence for the New Orleans tragedy before the start of the game they were getting rowdy and I heard a "Vikings Suck" from the crowd on live TV. No class
what does O’connell have against running the damn ball??!?
Who would believe the k/C Chiefs would get shut out?
They played all their back-up players. Very few starters were on the field in that game (which I am sure really p*ssed-off the Bengals, who were hoping the Chiefs would win!)