@@AnnalizaVerzola exactly. It's double speak. Denying that they are "the" church on expositions and indoctrination sessions but assumes they are "the" church today in their daily conversations.
@@arieldurano3247 thanks for watching. We understand that's the typical counter argument of MCGI. But please understand that verse 10 doesn't negate 8-9. By the law of non-contradiction if salvation is NOT BY WORKS (8-9) it cannot be BY WORKS in the same sense and at the same time. So in context, works are not the CAUSE but rather the logical EFFECT or fruit of faith. The EVIDENCE of faith as per James 2.
@@CultsAndCoffeeFM By principle of non contradiction, salvation is by grace and works! Salvation by grace is for God to deliver as from our sins. But after that initial salvation, God requires us to work out our own salvation. PHILIPPIANS 2:12 (WEB) So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
@princejher It says "work OUT" your salvation, not "work FOR" it. There's a significant difference between the two. "Working out" something refers to actively living out or developing what you already have (such as your body or salvation). You can’t "work out" something you don’t possess. Thus, works are the logical effect of salvation-not the cause. They are the result or fruit of a relationship with God, which begins through grace. NLT: “Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.” This shows that works are not a prerequisite for salvation but rather the evidence of a changed heart, the fruit of salvation already received. 💯 Grace and works are mutually exclusive. Thus your statement violates the law of non-contradiction. And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. (Rom. 11:6)
we want MCGI they telling the whole truth in our time
@@franz-sq3fq the whole truth? Like what?
u think eli soriano told u the #whole truth when he pertinently said u r not the true chuch?!?
@@AnnalizaVerzola exactly. It's double speak. Denying that they are "the" church on expositions and indoctrination sessions but assumes they are "the" church today in their daily conversations.
😂😂😂
mcgi is one of the sinister cults in our time
are songs to the Lord and gathering are not works
they always cut it to verses 8-9, you must read it up to verse 10 to understand it more truly
@@arieldurano3247 thanks for watching. We understand that's the typical counter argument of MCGI. But please understand that verse 10 doesn't negate 8-9. By the law of non-contradiction if salvation is NOT BY WORKS (8-9) it cannot be BY WORKS in the same sense and at the same time. So in context, works are not the CAUSE but rather the logical EFFECT or fruit of faith. The EVIDENCE of faith as per James 2.
Humingi ka ng kaunawaan sa Dios pra ma unawa mo Ang kanyang salita Bago mg komenta baka mgkasala ka sa espiritu ng pamumusong sa mga sinasabi mo.
@@FilipinasTagolimot we all should. Amen.
@@CultsAndCoffeeFM
By principle of non contradiction, salvation is by grace and works!
Salvation by grace is for God to deliver as from our sins.
But after that initial salvation, God requires us to work out our own salvation.
PHILIPPIANS 2:12 (WEB)
So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
@princejher It says "work OUT" your salvation, not "work FOR" it. There's a significant difference between the two. "Working out" something refers to actively living out or developing what you already have (such as your body or salvation). You can’t "work out" something you don’t possess.
Thus, works are the logical effect of salvation-not the cause. They are the result or fruit of a relationship with God, which begins through grace.
NLT: “Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.”
This shows that works are not a prerequisite for salvation but rather the evidence of a changed heart, the fruit of salvation already received.
💯 Grace and works are mutually exclusive. Thus your statement violates the law of non-contradiction.
And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. (Rom. 11:6)
Show your face why you hidding???
@@alexhecatubay9347 faces are not the basis of truth. Case in point, Laong Laan.
@@CultsAndCoffeeFM i agree. these cults are always asking for faces just to avoid answering real issues.
Poor content Creator.. Tons of viewers 40only
@@leoarielguardo418 what's the relation of number of viewers with the arguments presented?
poor mind you have there pal
@@minterbell i agree, hope he'll come back with a better counter argument/criticism