Start your bend 9” in then every 18” for the rest of the top rail for a 20 ft hoop house and your bends will be even and look consistent for the 3 part hoop. hope that helps.
I had a backyard nursery after retirement until my truck was rear ended leaving me with serious back and neck injuries. I am using your site to teach my family how I did it.
Why didn't you install the wiggly wire canal tracks on your hoop poles while they were on the ground and you had clear and easy access to them? No ladder required.
Hi, we live very close to you, and I agree, the ground here is very hard and rocky, and the top soil is very thin. I have been gardening here for over 30 years, and dealing with this ground has always been difficult. I am looking forward to meeting you and your family, and checking out your new nursery. If you don't mind, I will come by one day.
Looks good another suggestion, old trampolines. Collect up damaged trampolines take apart get two hoops and legs become stakes. People throwing these away everywhere
@@savvydirtfarmer your welcome I hope you know I'm helping a mate do some veg patch in his back yard I will be using this to show how to do a shade glass hot house and they juggle wire I had no idea about I have used the plastic clips in the past from eBay but that wire seems a far better long term investments and easy to change out the cover like the clips
I've been sitting on a galvanized steel commercial frame my uncle got from a defunct nursery back in the 70s, having no real direction on what to do with it. It's missing some connectors and others have original bolts that have become stuck within. I never thought to try chain link fence hardware, and I will definitely need that cross bar up top. All I would need in addition to that would be the 2x6 frame (this has actual welded on heavy steel plate slots that slide onto the boards and perch the hoops off the ground), the ww channels, ww, screws, and shade cloth. For winter I expect I could add the plastic sheeting layered over the cloth like you stated. Appreciate this video, now I'm going in the right direction🎉🎉👍👍👍
Thank you. You are an excellent teacher for those of us who are visual learners and need to SEE rather than just hear all of the details. The Savvy family must be getting excited seeing things progress. Fun adventure. Psalm 91 over all believers.
I just love those hoophouses! I love owls too! You keep adding so many wonderful new things, I can hardly wait to see what's next! Will wait to see owl updates and photos! Good job Carly!
Well done and I like how you pointed out the "imperfections" so that the average DIY person could see that even with "mistakes" it will work. Earned a like and sub.
Wow, awesome green house and video. Very detailed. Great idea on doing gadget to bend the poles and on doing the shade cloth versus plastic. Thank you for sharing. Love it.
In extremely hot parts of the country. It would extend the growing season. I live in Louisiana. For years my tomatoes would give it up last week of July. Then I started putting a shade cloth over them. Have tomatoes all the way into middle of Sept.
I love how humble you are at 14:40 but you do a fine job Thank you again for all the videos you produce, I will be using this direction to build my own this summer.
I'm glad you shared your shade house build. I built one last year it was ugly but it did the job I needed to but now I what to build more of a permanent one. Thanks
One of the most important things that I learned from you is not only how important a shade house is, but how to build one at a reasonable price. Thank You.
I have found used trampolines for free on marketplace. I leave a message on all adds under $150 that reads “if you don’t find someone to purchase your trampoline I would be willing to disassemble, and haul off for no charge” I’m guessing that 2 out of 10 say come and get it (right away) another 1 or 2 contact me in a couple of weeks . A 15 ft trampling will provide a “Quonset hut” 7-1/2 ft tall x15 ft wide I think I. Going to try your method of driving post in the ground to make them a little taller and straight side walls . And will eliminate the need to drill anchors to hold it down. Great job, love it.
great vid. we will be doing this in Barbados where everything is 3 to 4 times as expensive...if you can find it. if you have to ship it in....forget it. so, cpl of questions. can PVC pipe be substituted for galvanized for the hoops? what would help is parts list so we can make the decision which material to buy. we tried to guess how may 8 footers you used for the hoops. if we cudda figured that out we wudnt have to ask....lol
The very best way to get a consistent bend every time on all you ribs is too measure off every pipe marking a foot, two or three and make that the point you use to place at the loop holding the pipe. That will give you nearly identical ribs all the way every time.
Good question. First time I built one, black was the only thing my local supply place had so I went with it and have stayed with it. There’s not more to it than that for me.
The homebrewing hobby has a phrase for the same sentiment about doing things imperfectly (and for what seems like but aren't big accidents): relax, don't worry, have a homebrew. We need something similar for DIY.
@@savvydirtfarmer Your video gave me the solution for a shade structure for my flower farm. Was going to use hog panels, which are pricey, shaped into an arch, but now will use the materials we already have on hand from a chain link fence that we removed from our property. 👍 Can you share the source for the shade fabric?
Every screw I've used that wiggles with wind ends up snapping after a few years. Nails can bend back and forth many times without damage, but can pull out too easily (nail multiple at different angles to avoid them pulling out)
I must have missed something here - for two poles of the same diameter, how did you slide one end inside the other to join them? Not easy to tell on the video, but I would think you need some kind of adapter?
Hello, first of all, thank you very much for the information. Could you tell me the name of the bar that holds the plastic in place? I cannot understand what it is called because I do not speak English. I would really appreciate it.
I have searched all over the internet, including the link provided, to find a pipe bender similar to what was used in the video that will make a smooth large radius for longer lengths of pipe. Are there any suggestions where this could be purchased?
Great video. When bending a pipe successively (a bend and a bend again on that same pipe), always mark the pipe bend direction so that you does not dog leg. So on that 10' end, jut put some painters tape on top or similar and before you start bending ... is that tape facing up? When you moved the pipe did it twist? If so, adjust the pipe. A dog leg is not just an aesthetic issue, it is also a length issue and could also successively impact your track path.
Good tip for sure. I do the best I can with what I have and with the ability (or lack thereof) I have. The way I have done these works well and seems to be holding up great. I haven't had any significant issues with twisting, but certainly something for me to pay attention to as I build out more in the future.
Did you also use wiggle wire and channel to attach the shade cloth on the ends of the arch? Formed channels tend not to bend well when they are laid on their side. as an option: Do you think that when the shade cloth is drawn over the top of the hoop structure you could also drape the end shade cloth under the top arch cloth so that when the wiggle wire is installed on the end it would capture 2 layers of the cloth in one channel and hold in wind?
Yes. The wiggle wire channel bends very easily... it doesn't kink (if that's the right word) at all. The top cloth and the end wall cloth lock into the same channel on top of the end rail.
@@savvydirtfarmer thanks so much for the quick reply. Did you understand my wording of potentially doubling up shade cloth and capturing it with one wiggle wire? Have you tried that?
Sorry if I missed this information, but this sort of project more than likely requires a building permit? Thanks for the great videos and priceless information you provide. God Bless!
After slamming T posts into the ground with a hand driven post driver on my very rocky Missouri soil recently and being rib cage sore for a week or more I’m very jealous of that gas powered driver you just used! 😮 Loving this idea minus the hand post driving I’d have to do. Unfortunately it looks like my home depot doesn’t have the gas drivers I’ll have to see if a home town rental store has any.
Yes!! I decided a while back a great tool is worth the expense if I can afford it. The time, aggravation, and toll on your body are all things that can’t be replaced… totally worth it to me.
I have a pad that is 26 foot wide and 30 foot long. Can I do a hoop house that is 26 foot wide? If so how many top rails would I need for the top? Thank you.
You could. Would require some creativity. I would think 4 poles per arch. You could probably get by with 3, but your ceiling would have to be a bit lower and flatter.
Having shade cloth covering the plants all the time, how will that affect the amount of light, energy, blooming time, etc ? I’m in East Arkansas and it gets miserably hot with 75% humidity… looking for the best way to cool my garden as well..
A light shade cloth can help almost any plant, maybe except evergreens. Mine haven't done well under it. Go with something like 30% shade and that should help you a ton.
@@savvydirtfarmerI’ve read the recommended is 30% or less for constant coverage.. I want shade cloth 100% of the time past mid June… and greenhouse plastic I can pull over to block rain storms.. The May floods and June heat is the 1-2 punch that hurts.. I’m trying to control both as much as possible!
@@marvinbrock960 heavy rain won't hurt you if you have good draining potting soil... unless you're talking about high floodwaters washing stuff away... that's a whole different thing
I built my greenhouse the same way and it is 20 x 60 which is a lot of space. We have a lot of wind so I did place braces on the two hoops at each end. We made it 12' high for tomato vines, but that was a mistake as I have to use a 10 ft ladder to work the vines. We can grow tomatoes 365 in North Carolina, but normally shut down on New Years and start back in March.
Awesome video, thanks!! What kind of winds does it hold up to? I live in FL, and we get squalls up to 50 mph. I do not expect hurricane resistance, just summer storm resistant. What do you think?
Wind passes right through shade cloth. We've had 70+ mph winds here twice in the last year with no issues at all. The key is shade cloth; not plastic. That's a whole different deal.
Yes. Not being snarky. Some of each. Depends on how much wiggle I had to give the bow to even them out. Some of them go all the way to the ground and some don't. When they go to the ground, or almost, the bolts catch both metal pipes. Obviously, it's better to go through both, but a lot of them do not.
I'm glad you mentioned this video in the video you uploaded this morning. As somehow I missed this one. Life gets busy lol. But I so agree with you when it comes to structures like this. It ain't got to be exactly perfect. It's just gotta work for what it's purpose is supposed to be. As long as it's better than the crooked man that built the crooked house, I'm fine with it 😆.
This is the video that i want to see for ages, i thought green house is premade and you just have to buy it all in one box. You on the other hand is a life safer
Did you use the same, uh... grade, of shade cloth in AL as you did in TN? I know they sell different grades/whatever that block different amounts of light.
Quick question. When it comes to buying shade cloth what have you done to determine approx. how much you need for one of these structures. Obviously I know this one you built is 20 x 40, but I am assuming you buy plenty of extra to pull over the sides and front/back of these? If so, how much extra did you purchase for a structure like this?
I would take the cloth down if it were going to snow. But I don’t live in the Midwest. I built it for the South. Could be pretty easily modified and braced a bit.
Hi there. I can’t find the large shade cloth locally. I am in Canada. Could you Please give me some key words I could use to search for this large roll of shade cloth. I’m sure it can be shipped from China or ordered thru Amazon business. Biggest I find here is about 10x30. Thank you so much.
I think you're on it... "shade" cloth is all I know it as. Check out the link in my description as well. Also look here...shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1020530&u=3151152&m=72437&urllink=&afftrack=
Sat through the whole thing to see how you connected the shade cloth to the outside frame since it already had wiggle wire and shade cloth on it and you didn't even show that part!!!! Maybe you could take one side undone and film how you put them together.....????
Just do 2 layers. 2 layers of wire will fit in the track. You could cover the whole thing in plastic, then cover the plastic in shade cloth. Wiggle wire is the coolest stuff!
Thanks for the excellent video! I was looking into building a poly pipe shadehouse, then stumbled across your video. It looks more sturdy compared to the polypipe design. We live in Queensland, Australia. Great explanation, thanks again.
Plastic might be used on something much smaller, but I wouldn’t use it on anything near 20x40. If it were a good idea everyone would use it. And, I’ve never seen plastic used as a hoop frame except on very small structures.
You said you are using 50% shade cloth... is there a table or equation to determine what share you need at what altitude and latitude or zone or something? i would imagine you get a lot more sun that we do (The Black Hills SD).
I don't know about a table. Kinda depends on the plants and local growing conditions, as you mentioned. 50% is a good middle of the road. I've used 40-60%, all with good results.
I grow and propagate plants for my own use. I have very limited space. But I have a 12 x 16 hoop house and inside it is almost 10 feet to the top of it. It is covered with nursery plastic. And I’m wondering if I can put a 50% shade cloth tarp over the plastic because it gets too hot from the sun for most plants in the summer. But I really don’t want to remove the plastic for several reasons. Do you think this is OK to do.?
@@savvydirtfarmer wow! I got it installed and what a difference in temperature! I covered 8’ of the 16’ and left the other half normal. Thanks very much👍
I was wondering how you were going to connect the 2 halves together, I guess I didn't realize they made them with the beveled ends already, I mean I should of known. I've been buying the 3/4" conduit's from home Depot, they are only 5$ a piece, to make my hoop house but wasn't sure how I was going to connect the 2 together. I was going to use a fitting and put the 2 ends in it. Loving this project so far I've been wanting to build a half hoop house and have been slowly getting all the pieces too, I may have to try your way as well.
Do you run the wiggle wire completely to the top of the hoop house? How do you get clear up there on the outside? Also, how did you decide what direction to orient your openings? Did prevailing winds have anything to do with that decision? Thank you so much for the info!
What is funny to me is seeing you pull out some bolts from a cardboard shelf ‘parts box’ that is exactly like the ones I use for hardware in my shop. 😂
"I talked with my plants and they don't care", love it! Good video for people like me who just love to grow things.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love listening to you. very educational. Im 78 years old and I just started my backyard nursery.
Excellent!
Profound statement. THE PLANTS DON'T CARE!. Love it.
Start your bend 9” in then every 18” for the rest of the top rail for a 20 ft hoop house and your bends will be even and look consistent for the 3 part hoop. hope that helps.
thanks i knew the measurements for a more precise arch was out there. 👊🏽
I had a backyard nursery after retirement until my truck was rear ended leaving me with serious back and neck injuries. I am using your site to teach my family how I did it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 loveeee that bit of advice !!! “THEY SIMPLY DONT CARE “ ♥️♥️♥️ this is sooo encouraging honestly ! Thank you sooo much 🙏😊🌸🌺🪴🌱🪻
Why didn't you install the wiggly wire canal tracks on your hoop poles while they were on the ground and you had clear and easy access to them? No ladder required.
Because I don't always think of the best way to do things the first time. Also, I'm not sure that would be any easier. Might be.
I'm glad your back in my feed again. I missed a lot!
Welcome back!
Great DIY and cheaper than buying a kit. Plus it's fun building stuff! And you're right, the plants don't care if it isn't perfect.
Exactly!
I agree! I'm a 65 yo grandma, and I love building stuff!
there's a better bender on the market
Oh wow! If I ever get land, I will look into the Barn Owl box. Love the concept!
Even though costs vary throughout the country adding cost breakdowns is extremely helpful, Please keepmdoing this as you develop the property.
Good bit about perfectionism!!! Setting up the sanctuary looks like a multi year project.
One of your best videos! I learned so much!
Glad it was helpful!
That was a great how to video. Absolutely loved it! Thanks for sharing. Spring is almost here!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi, we live very close to you, and I agree, the ground here is very hard and rocky, and the top soil is very thin. I have been gardening here for over 30 years, and dealing with this ground has always been difficult. I am looking forward to meeting you and your family, and checking out your new nursery. If you don't mind, I will come by one day.
We’ll announce when we’re opening!
Looks good another suggestion, old trampolines. Collect up damaged trampolines take apart get two hoops and legs become stakes. People throwing these away everywhere
Good job mate so this is good explanation for how to build this
Thanks! 👍
@@savvydirtfarmer your welcome I hope you know I'm helping a mate do some veg patch in his back yard I will be using this to show how to do a shade glass hot house and they juggle wire I had no idea about I have used the plastic clips in the past from eBay but that wire seems a far better long term investments and easy to change out the cover like the clips
I've been sitting on a galvanized steel commercial frame my uncle got from a defunct nursery back in the 70s, having no real direction on what to do with it. It's missing some connectors and others have original bolts that have become stuck within. I never thought to try chain link fence hardware, and I will definitely need that cross bar up top. All I would need in addition to that would be the 2x6 frame (this has actual welded on heavy steel plate slots that slide onto the boards and perch the hoops off the ground), the ww channels, ww, screws, and shade cloth. For winter I expect I could add the plastic sheeting layered over the cloth like you stated. Appreciate this video, now I'm going in the right direction🎉🎉👍👍👍
Thanks for the details. This information helps me build my net-house.
Thank you sir. you are the most amazing teacher. You gave me all the courage to build my own again thank you.
You are very welcome
I'm so glad I found y'all. This is the most informative channel
Great! We're glad you're here as well.
Thank you. You are an excellent teacher for those of us who are visual learners and need to SEE rather than just hear all of the details. The Savvy family must be getting excited seeing things progress. Fun adventure. Psalm 91 over all believers.
Thank you!
The Barn Owl Box company has so much information about lots of birds!! A must visit and read! Thanks for the info!
I just love those hoophouses! I love owls too! You keep adding so many wonderful new things, I can hardly wait to see what's next! Will wait to see owl updates and photos! Good job Carly!
Thank you so much!
Love that you 'talked to your plants and they don't care' 😂 The green house I built myself is not perfect either, and my plants said the same thing!
And, predictably, they'll say the same thing again, and again.
Well done and I like how you pointed out the "imperfections" so that the average DIY person could see that even with "mistakes" it will work. Earned a like and sub.
Much appreciated.
Wow, awesome green house and video. Very detailed. Great idea on doing gadget to bend the poles and on doing the shade cloth versus plastic. Thank you for sharing. Love it.
So nice of you - thanks!
I have a pipe roller, can't wait to build one.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Watching from Georgia, south part.
In extremely hot parts of the country. It would extend the growing season. I live in Louisiana. For years my tomatoes would give it up last week of July. Then I started putting a shade cloth over them. Have tomatoes all the way into middle of Sept.
Yes, indeed. Shade cloth has a lot of benefits.
I love how humble you are at 14:40 but you do a fine job
Thank you again for all the videos you produce, I will be using this direction to build my own this summer.
I’m anxious to see you get your mist system set up in there. Make sure you show us how you do it. That’s one thing I haven’t done yet.
That’s really nice. Thanks for showing this video. It is super informative for anyone to copy and do themselves. 👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
I'm glad you shared your shade house build. I built one last year it was ugly but it did the job I needed to but now I what to build more of a permanent one.
Thanks
It's OK if they're ugly. You all have seen my old ones!!
One of the most important things that I learned from you is not only how important a shade house is, but how to build one at a reasonable price. Thank You.
Great! Everything doesn’t have to cost a fortune
I have found used trampolines for free on marketplace.
I leave a message on all adds under $150 that reads “if you don’t find someone to purchase your trampoline I would be willing to disassemble, and haul off for no charge” I’m guessing that 2 out of 10 say come and get it (right away) another 1 or 2 contact me in a couple of weeks .
A 15 ft trampling will provide a “Quonset hut” 7-1/2 ft tall x15 ft wide
I think I. Going to try your method of driving post in the ground to make them a little taller and straight side walls . And will eliminate the need to drill anchors to hold it down.
Great job, love it.
great vid. we will be doing this in Barbados where everything is 3 to 4 times as expensive...if you can find it. if you have to ship it in....forget it. so, cpl of questions. can PVC pipe be substituted for galvanized for the hoops? what would help is parts list so we can make the decision which material to buy. we tried to guess how may 8 footers you used for the hoops. if we cudda figured that out we wudnt have to ask....lol
Check with your local fencing companies and they usually have used fence tubing that will save you major $.
I’ve actually done that before… only checked with 1 place - no help.
i like the way you detail the wholething....awesome vid
I appreciate that!
So exciting!!! Thanks for sharing your journey!!
The very best way to get a consistent bend every time on all you ribs is too measure off every pipe marking a foot, two or three and make that the point you use to place at the loop holding the pipe. That will give you nearly identical ribs all the way every time.
Great point!
Great progress! Nice clear instruction on how to build. 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
He is a cool dude!😊😊😊😊
😀😀
Great stuff ya'll, I'm collecting trampoline frames to build mine. Keep it up
Great info about building a shade house. Why black shad cloth vs white?
Good question. First time I built one, black was the only thing my local supply place had so I went with it and have stayed with it. There’s not more to it than that for me.
@@savvydirtfarmer white may look dirty after a while so black would hide that
👍very useful parameters tips to build sturdy shad house , I’m going to build this e same thank you very much
The homebrewing hobby has a phrase for the same sentiment about doing things imperfectly (and for what seems like but aren't big accidents): relax, don't worry, have a homebrew. We need something similar for DIY.
Nice!
Excellent information! Thank you for sharing this!
Getting ready to build another!
@@savvydirtfarmer Your video gave me the solution for a shade structure for my flower farm. Was going to use hog panels, which are pricey, shaped into an arch, but now will use the materials we already have on hand from a chain link fence that we removed from our property. 👍 Can you share the source for the shade fabric?
@@Whipporwhill it's in the link below. For a structure the size of mine, 20' wide, you'd need a 32' width... just FYI. thanks
Every screw I've used that wiggles with wind ends up snapping after a few years. Nails can bend back and forth many times without damage, but can pull out too easily (nail multiple at different angles to avoid them pulling out)
I've had a few screws snap myself... got a few to fix as I speak.
I must have missed something here - for two poles of the same diameter, how did you slide one end inside the other to join them? Not easy to tell on the video, but I would think you need some kind of adapter?
they are made to slide together... one end is belled.
@@savvydirtfarmer ok makes sense. I've never built a chain link fence but it makes sense that one end has a belly. Thanks
Thank you for this upload. Was eagerly waiting for this one🙂
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@savvydirtfarmer It's a great help. I will be making one in months to come
Hello, first of all, thank you very much for the information. Could you tell me the name of the bar that holds the plastic in place? I cannot understand what it is called because I do not speak English. I would really appreciate it.
It is top rail for chainlink fencing
I have searched all over the internet, including the link provided, to find a pipe bender similar to what was used in the video that will make a smooth large radius for longer lengths of pipe. Are there any suggestions where this could be purchased?
Im in England, the whole country is a shade house 😂😂
Great video.
When bending a pipe successively (a bend and a bend again on that same pipe), always mark the pipe bend direction so that you does not dog leg. So on that 10' end, jut put some painters tape on top or similar and before you start bending ... is that tape facing up? When you moved the pipe did it twist? If so, adjust the pipe. A dog leg is not just an aesthetic issue, it is also a length issue and could also successively impact your track path.
Good tip for sure. I do the best I can with what I have and with the ability (or lack thereof) I have. The way I have done these works well and seems to be holding up great. I haven't had any significant issues with twisting, but certainly something for me to pay attention to as I build out more in the future.
Love your Channel.
Would you put links of where to get the shade cloth material? Thanks.
In the description
Thank You! Exactly what I needed to see!
Such a great video!!!
Can top railing be used for the doorway framing and back bracing instead of wood?
Yes
Looks great! You’re making lots of headway.
Supper👍👍 I am from India- kerala state, this is very helpful for me. Thanks 🙏🏻
Hey great video. Can you provide a list of the materials that you used?
Did you also use wiggle wire and channel to attach the shade cloth on the ends of the arch? Formed channels tend not to bend well when they are laid on their side.
as an option:
Do you think that when the shade cloth is drawn over the top of the hoop structure you could also drape the end shade cloth under the top arch cloth so that when the wiggle wire is installed on the end it would capture 2 layers of the cloth in one channel and hold in wind?
Yes. The wiggle wire channel bends very easily... it doesn't kink (if that's the right word) at all. The top cloth and the end wall cloth lock into the same channel on top of the end rail.
@@savvydirtfarmer thanks so much for the quick reply. Did you understand my wording of potentially doubling up shade cloth and capturing it with one wiggle wire? Have you tried that?
haven't tried@@SteveHotchkiss-l2m
How has the barn owl box worked out?
Also what is a good shade cloth?
Sorry if I missed this information, but this sort of project more than likely requires a building permit? Thanks for the great videos and priceless information you provide. God Bless!
I live outside city limits. Those regs don’t existed here. Part of the reason I bought land outside city limits.
After slamming T posts into the ground with a hand driven post driver on my very rocky Missouri soil recently and being rib cage sore for a week or more I’m very jealous of that gas powered driver you just used! 😮
Loving this idea minus the hand post driving I’d have to do. Unfortunately it looks like my home depot doesn’t have the gas drivers I’ll have to see if a home town rental store has any.
Yes!! I decided a while back a great tool is worth the expense if I can afford it. The time, aggravation, and toll on your body are all things that can’t be replaced… totally worth it to me.
I realize the cost could vary based on regions, but love how you break down the cost to give someone a good estimate as what to expect
Yep. That was the goal,,, just to give an idea. thanks!
That looks great! Do you have a link for the shade cloth?
In the description
I have a pad that is 26 foot wide and 30 foot long. Can I do a hoop house that is 26 foot wide? If so how many top rails would I need for the top? Thank you.
You could. Would require some creativity. I would think 4 poles per arch. You could probably get by with 3, but your ceiling would have to be a bit lower and flatter.
Thank you for getting back to me. I was thinking 3 to 4 for the ceiling.
Good information. Thanks SFD!
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing.
Having shade cloth covering the plants all the time, how will that affect the amount of light, energy, blooming time, etc ? I’m in East Arkansas and it gets miserably hot with 75% humidity… looking for the best way to cool my garden as well..
A light shade cloth can help almost any plant, maybe except evergreens. Mine haven't done well under it. Go with something like 30% shade and that should help you a ton.
@@savvydirtfarmerI’ve read the recommended is 30% or less for constant coverage.. I want shade cloth 100% of the time past mid June… and greenhouse plastic I can pull over to block rain storms.. The May floods and June heat is the 1-2 punch that hurts.. I’m trying to control both as much as possible!
@@marvinbrock960 heavy rain won't hurt you if you have good draining potting soil... unless you're talking about high floodwaters washing stuff away... that's a whole different thing
@@savvydirtfarmermore about disease and other issues with Tomatoes.. every kind of Funfus and mildew you can imagine, Early blight, etc
Great job, looks awesome.
Really great tutorial SDF! Thank you so much😃
Well done thanks Barry
I built my greenhouse the same way and it is 20 x 60 which is a lot of space. We have a lot of wind so I did place braces on the two hoops at each end. We made it 12' high for tomato vines, but that was a mistake as I have to use a 10 ft ladder to work the vines. We can grow tomatoes 365 in North Carolina, but normally shut down on New Years and start back in March.
Would love to see that setup. Very nice!
Awesome video, thanks!! What kind of winds does it hold up to? I live in FL, and we get squalls up to 50 mph. I do not expect hurricane resistance, just summer storm resistant. What do you think?
Wind passes right through shade cloth. We've had 70+ mph winds here twice in the last year with no issues at all. The key is shade cloth; not plastic. That's a whole different deal.
Are you putting the bolts through both metal pipes or just the base one?
Yes. Not being snarky. Some of each. Depends on how much wiggle I had to give the bow to even them out. Some of them go all the way to the ground and some don't. When they go to the ground, or almost, the bolts catch both metal pipes. Obviously, it's better to go through both, but a lot of them do not.
I'm glad you mentioned this video in the video you uploaded this morning. As somehow I missed this one. Life gets busy lol. But I so agree with you when it comes to structures like this. It ain't got to be exactly perfect. It's just gotta work for what it's purpose is supposed to be. As long as it's better than the crooked man that built the crooked house, I'm fine with it 😆.
Hope you enjoy it!
This is the video that i want to see for ages, i thought green house is premade and you just have to buy it all in one box. You on the other hand is a life safer
Great! Glad it helped
Did you use the same, uh... grade, of shade cloth in AL as you did in TN? I know they sell different grades/whatever that block different amounts of light.
Yes, 50%. 40-60 is good for pretty much anything
Quick question. When it comes to buying shade cloth what have you done to determine approx. how much you need for one of these structures. Obviously I know this one you built is 20 x 40, but I am assuming you buy plenty of extra to pull over the sides and front/back of these? If so, how much extra did you purchase for a structure like this?
Hey, the barn owl box: is there any point to placing one on RENTED property inside of city limits in an increasingly urban area?
Sure! Why not? I honestly have no idea.
@@savvydirtfarmer fair enough! Lol thanks for the reply, enjoying your videos!
Maybe I missed it, but what length of top rail did you use to create your hoops?
10' x 3 pieces per bow.
What are the dimensions of your shade cloth? What size material do I need to cover the 20 x 40 hoop structure? Thanks. Great step by step.
Shade cloth was 40x32... had a little extra on all sides
Nice job. I'm interested in your benches and sprinkler set up if you put one in. Was 60% shade cloth used ? Thank you
I think this shade is 50. I like 60 better. 70 for shade plants… even better
Being in the Midwest I'm curious how well this shade house would hold up to snow?
I would take the cloth down if it were going to snow. But I don’t live in the Midwest. I built it for the South. Could be pretty easily modified and braced a bit.
Impressive build,
How are the green giants working out there in AL? I'm in zone 8 and wondering if it will get to hot for them to sell here..
So far so good. I see them growing all over the place also
Hi there. I can’t find the large shade cloth locally. I am in Canada. Could you Please give me some key words I could use to search for this large roll of shade cloth. I’m sure it can be shipped from China or ordered thru Amazon business. Biggest I find here is about 10x30. Thank you so much.
I think you're on it... "shade" cloth is all I know it as. Check out the link in my description as well. Also look here...shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1020530&u=3151152&m=72437&urllink=&afftrack=
Sat through the whole thing to see how you connected the shade cloth to the outside frame since it already had wiggle wire and shade cloth on it and you didn't even show that part!!!! Maybe you could take one side undone and film how you put them together.....????
Just do 2 layers. 2 layers of wire will fit in the track. You could cover the whole thing in plastic, then cover the plastic in shade cloth. Wiggle wire is the coolest stuff!
Thanks for the excellent video! I was looking into building a poly pipe shadehouse, then stumbled across your video. It looks more sturdy compared to the polypipe design. We live in Queensland, Australia. Great explanation, thanks again.
Sure. thanks for watching!
can you use plastic pipes too so us not have any bending to do?
Plastic might be used on something much smaller, but I wouldn’t use it on anything near 20x40. If it were a good idea everyone would use it. And, I’ve never seen plastic used as a hoop frame except on very small structures.
You said you are using 50% shade cloth... is there a table or equation to determine what share you need at what altitude and latitude or zone or something? i would imagine you get a lot more sun that we do (The Black Hills SD).
I don't know about a table. Kinda depends on the plants and local growing conditions, as you mentioned. 50% is a good middle of the road. I've used 40-60%, all with good results.
I grow and propagate plants for my own use. I have very limited space. But I have a 12 x 16 hoop house and inside it is almost 10 feet to the top of it. It is covered with nursery plastic. And I’m wondering if I can put a 50% shade cloth tarp over the plastic because it gets too hot from the sun for most plants in the summer. But I really don’t want to remove the plastic for several reasons. Do you think this is OK to do.?
Absolutely! Put the shade cloth on top; your inside temp will drop considerably.
@@savvydirtfarmer wow!
I got it installed and what a difference in temperature!
I covered 8’ of the 16’ and left the other half normal.
Thanks very much👍
I was wondering how you were going to connect the 2 halves together, I guess I didn't realize they made them with the beveled ends already, I mean I should of known. I've been buying the 3/4" conduit's from home Depot, they are only 5$ a piece, to make my hoop house but wasn't sure how I was going to connect the 2 together. I was going to use a fitting and put the 2 ends in it. Loving this project so far I've been wanting to build a half hoop house and have been slowly getting all the pieces too, I may have to try your way as well.
Great video!!!
where did you get that post driver from? Thats a super hack
found it!
Do you run the wiggle wire completely to the top of the hoop house? How do you get clear up there on the outside? Also, how did you decide what direction to orient your openings? Did prevailing winds have anything to do with that decision? Thank you so much for the info!
Yes… all the way. I use 8’ stepladder. Top is about 10’. Winds? I don’t worry about it. Wind passes through shade cloth pretty well,unlike plastic.
Sits down with coffee, pen and paper, 🤔🧐 I'm all ears! 🌽 🌽 🌽🤣😂
Enjoy!
What is funny to me is seeing you pull out some bolts from a cardboard shelf ‘parts box’ that is exactly like the ones I use for hardware in my shop. 😂
Every time I’m buying parts I’m looking for an empty box to put them in