Finally: An Honest Board Test | The Greatest Surfboard In The World #2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2021
- Which surfboard is the best in the world? In this series, I'm finding out.
Surfboard reviews are getting more cringeworthy by the minute. Here's why
1: Surfboard company releases new surfboard model
2: Surfboard company pays media outlet / surfer to review board
3: Media outlet is financially incentivised to avoid honest critique
In this series, The Greatest Surfboard In The World, I have received no financial returns nor do I have a vested interest in any of these top tier surfboard shapes in our test. Thus, I can tell you what I really think about each board.
There are some great surfboards, and there are some lemons.
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So funny how Stab tried saying videos like yours weren’t good and your the top liked comment because the surf community loves you
Thank you that means a lot
@@KalesBroccoli thanks for your videos kale and one of the things that helps me the most that you made a video on is how to catch more waves in crowds, I surf Huntington Beach with a lot of aggressive jerks who back paddle but being farthest outside let’s everyone see you going for the wave
Where does it say that ?
@@powercarve125 ahh cheers mate what a dick Kale is my favourite health snack 🤣
Stab’s just jealous because they’ve never managed to connect to the beginners/intermediate surfers community like you do. You are making surfing more relevant and accessible to lots of people by sharing your passion and talent 🙏🏻 Keep it up Legend!!! 🤙✨
Thank you mate 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Having Professional surfers review boards is a waste of time for most of us. On their worst day they could surf a total dog of a board
and make it look good. Not even at my best could I surf like Kale but I can relate to what he saying. Good content once again.
Thanks Hugh!
The biggest skill example I can ever use is that pro's can surf body boards. With no fins. And still shred them.
None of us could do that in our wildest dreams. That's how large the skill gap is.
I still enjoy Stab in The Dark - almost purely just to see the pro's do their thing - but since they did the stupid ass pay portal, I have lost interest in even wanting to watch it. Could care less.
80% of surfers will get more out of Kale, than just watching the pretty visuals of a pro do their thing. Of course, most of us enjoy both. But Stab are really losing the core of their audience - the 80% of them - and Kale is catering to them. Ain't rocket surgery.
You basically doing "stab in the dark" for ordinary people, even getting the board manufacturers to deliver for free - is probably the reason stab felt like throwing shade at you on instagram today :D
Keep it up and shut them haters up Kale 🤙🏽
Got a link?
@@carcorr it was kinda indirect, but he was in one photo collage and it was enough that he felt like commenting underneath himself - here’s the link instagram.com/p/CN4F2IfFEMz/?igshid=egza0d0taomz
Haha they’re just doing their thing
and no paid subscription required... ;)
@@KalesBroccoli but that thing should spread love instead of shade :D
So helpful. I honestly can’t believe your channel isn’t bigger with how great these videos are, but I’m sure the subs will start rolling in soon. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
It's so hard to give a board a good review in one session though. I was surfing the Pukas Dark 5'10 1/2 epoxy a year ago for the first time and it took me a good 10 sessions to get used to the responsiveness of it. And it now is my favorite board ever.
Would be interesting to see you surf some more HP models in bigger surf in the ocean. Great video!
Loving this series! Thank you for living out our board dreams and the helpful content!
I do agree that the Pyzel Shadow was not the best choice for them to send. The P2 would work well or even the High Line. I personally think The Shadow is going to be better closer to your height in stronger waves.
Nice work Kale! Surprised about the Pyzel and Lost results. But that's what this series is about! Good stuff.
Sharpeye is going to be top 3 if not the winner. Best surf series on TH-cam dude well done!
Thank you so much!
Very refreshing to hear honest reviews. We all know that some boards suite different surfers and waves but rarely is a reviewer bold enough to say it just isn’t working for them.
Amazing series! Thank you!
I think a board you missed is the al merrick OG flyer.. best in the market for smaller waves. Great speed get up and go and very predictable maneuverability
Love this series so far!!! Your commentary was spot on. I could tell by the way you were surfing that what you were saying was totally in line. Cheers from San Clemente!
Thank you Christian!!
I think the Red Baron is meant to be ridden with keels - I'm thinking keels would help it hold rail off the bottom and not feel too loose,
Agree
Finally an honest video¡¡¡ I keep looking at your videos and learning. Thanks for sharing so much value. I will get into your platform soon.
On a side note, it's great to see such great footage of someone ripping at Point Concrete. Really useful. Thank You. Loved this.
Really enjoy your laid-back honest style kale. Very talented communicator : )
a test of Grovellers would be great too and even better in less than average, windy summer conditions.
That's what we really need! Hybrids and fish in the wave pool on intermediate.
Great stuff Kale! Loved the side by side footage and your simple clear feedback. Looks like a blast!
Awesome
I love these reviews kale its always been a dream of mine to try every board in the surf shop in a wave pool . STAB trying to dis you was ridiculous . you were one of the TH-cam pioneers to dedicate your channel to helping beginners and intermediates learn and improve . I prefer average Joe surfers board reviews, the pros rip on any board and are always going with who pays them . keep up the good work .
Thank you!!
Awesome round 2... I love the honesty regarding the boards. You are a really good surfer so it is interesting how you are choosing boards that are fun and easy to ride. Like you said... No one is paying you to ride these boards... I think a lot of us choose boards on marketing hype or some other factors that don't take into account our own riding style, ability, and needs.. Just a great lesson for us all that even someone like yourself didn't like what would be considered "Pro" models. Great job Brock. Have a great trip down the coast. Wish that Cohort was FutureFlex but what can you do. Bet it goes sick in the ocean.
(See the cohort FF in the next episode 😛😛) thank you so much mate!
Yo I’m glad the HS Cohort made it! If all goes well from the next video I’m defo gonna get one! Yew can’t wait for the next one!
I mostly surf a pool in the UK which is basically the same as urban surf and I was beginning to think HPSB’s where the way to go on the bigger settings in the pool. But as you explained and I could see in your surfing the faster wider style boards seemed to work much better for you. Defiantly something I will consider when buying new boards in the future. Brilliant content as usual kale. Yeeeeew!
Thank you Adam!
As an official old man - 55 - I can’t imagine surfing for seven hours. I’m envious of your energy and I loved this review. You crushed those waves.
Thank you Jed! Haha I felt like an old man after!
Thank you Jed! Haha I felt like an old man after!
I’d love to find out how well I’d be doing after 7 hrs of surfing!!!
This was better than stab reviews. Loved this. I personally own a 5’8 sub driver 2.0. It’s a fun daily driver for our SoCal beach breaks. Takes a little getting used to though.
Great quality content again, much appreciated! Just wanted to mention that the red baron is meant to be ridden with a modern keel template which would potentially give you that hold you were looking for
Oh thanks!
Love these videos you've been doing. As an everyday kook it's nice to see some honest reviews of different shapers/boards
Thanks mate
Awesome - very timely video. Been eyeing an Album board for the past few months and this has helped me make the decision.
Question: How thick a wetsuit do you recommend for August surf sessions at the Urbnsurf? Hood/booties necessary?
I have really been liking this series keep it up! I also purchased a sub-driver 2.0 not too long ago and it seemed to be very sluggish or “sticky” as you said. I had a new one crafted at 30 L instead of 27 L. I haven’t had a chance to take the board out yet, but was hoping that I don’t have the same experience as before. Anyways I look forward to seeing part 3 of your search.
brand ahoy....have you surfd the newer subdriver you got? I have just got a 6.0 light speed. 32litrrs. not picked it up yet but the reviews (all by pros) say its quick and rate it. noel salas too but then he never gives a board a bad review really as he surfs everything well.
what fins did you have ?
what fins did Kale use do we know?
fins do make a big difference i feel.
not heard any mention of fins that Kale used in the video. would be interested to know....
I had the same experience with subdriver 2.0. Tried JJF mediums and Larges and still kinda funky with both
Great series, great insight! Having the Pyzel Shadow myself, it was so interesting to see what you think about it... your analysis was on point. Looked amazing under your feet! Definitely a sick board for good waves ... as you said 11:43 this board is "a master at controlling speed" : 100% agree
Definitely felt like it wanted a bigger wave to spark it up! Great fundamental shape
Really enjoying these videos 🤙
Waiting for it 🤙
Hey Kale, nice to see you yesterday In Byron and thanks for the tips on Board choice. I'll be trying out the new board in the pumping Victorian well this weekend ahhhhhh. Derek
Nice to meet you Derek!!
loving this series... thank you! One constructive comment... the Red Baron would have felt more predictable/controllable with less upright fins than those MRs - some AMKs (or similar) would have given you a better experience imho whereas the Twinsman is designed to be used with the high aspect twin fins such as those MRs.
Thank you! It’s still a super fun board !
Awesome test in the pool. Album boards are becoming my favorite now :)
The pool itself feels so different ,nearly like a stationary wave ,i found it hard to get drive of the bottom of the wave
I love your videos. I have watched almost all of them, it has helped me a lot.
Awesome!!
I love your reviews Kale ! I'm agree with you, the Red Baron is a great board in small conditions, very light and playfull specilly with keel fins but it is really too fragile and has too many bumps on the top shep from the first uses.
This is so good Kale!
Very entertaining, so many board reviews are dead boring. Can't wait for episode 3. 👍
incredible content...benn following you since first how to rip tutorials... I´m missing a seaside and a pukas here !!!! besttt
You always make the cleanest videos, if that makes ANY sense 🤣
Ha ha thank you very much!
Awesome content mate!
Finally been waiting for this video
Excellent video! I see you put your biometrics also, nice!
Insanely well done, excellent videography and reviews.
Thank you!
2:19 "FLAT DECK"... damn why'd you have to remind me.
Great job. Format really works!
Thank you!
Great Vid, looking forward to the final. Did you try a SMTH Shapes?
No didn’t get there!
Thanks for this mate, really enjoyed it.
Digging the lid buddy first off. Love a good twin. My fav board is an 1981 Carl Hayward twin! Loving the board look mate. Well done Kale, keep it up🤙
G⭐
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@@KalesBroccoli indeed sir🤙😎 G⭐
Great review and well said, sir!!!
Question here I'm 5'9 71 kgs adv immediate lvl surfer should i get the 5'6 stock neck beard 2 Spine TEK which is 26.8 L or the 5'7 NB2 28.1 L
Great series, I am really enjoying it! You should do it annually and keepin' it free!
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Killer work, Kale! For what it’s worth, I thought your surfing in first Shadow clip was unreal. It was super critical and sharp. I’m not a pyzel fanboy or anything either haha
It definitely had moments and I can see it being a fantastic board in great waves
@@KalesBroccoli right on, Kale! Keep up the great videos 🤙
I agree
Maybe the Pyzel Phantom for the Melbourne pool, the Shadow would probably go better in the Slater wave pool.
Quite Interesting - ''Can't Wait 4 Finalizing Results''
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Much Love & Respect - Thnx Kale!
Hope this gets millions of views mate
Thank you
good content young man. try a christenson when you can, also Haydenshapes LOOT using MR 2+1 fins...best board ever!
Maybe next year!
What fins were you using and how do you decide the left or right for which board?
Sounds like you would have been better to try a smaller rear fin in the lsd
Ledgey! Loved this review brock. What do you think of Ainsley’s Tiger shark? Also brock where is that wave pool? X
hi Kale...
what fins did you have in the subdriver and the sharp eye...
the sub driver seems similar to thr Dominator2 in bottom contour and wide point
have you sirfed the dominator2 in the pool ?
i would imagine small pivot fins in the subdriver would go well in the pool, to loose the stickyness ?
What fins did you try in the twinsman? Excellent series by the way!!
Thank you so much for putting out such a great vlog
Thank you for watching these videos!
Awesome work mate 🤙. Let's see if the Album takes out the win 😁. Did you surf 8ft Winki by any chance?
Awesome video as usual! Love your videos...
But just wondering what your thoughts are on different fin types - If a board feels too loose or stiff, maybe it'd go better with different fins? before writing it off completely 😉
Though I guess if you only have an hour per board, that limits the time you can spend dialing in the right fins 🤔
Just didn’t have enough time - next year we will make the shaper suggest and provide the perfect fins for their board
Waiting for this.keep on.more and more please eee.album look sickkk.you must do album."insanaty" model.and lost umber driver xl.
Great reviews, would be handy to know which fins are being used in each board.
Been waiting this series is so good
Thank you!
Great vid 🤙🏻
"squirty, drivey, stiff" 😂 brah can we get a lowdown on the vocab?? What do these words mean, what do they feel like? Love your work dude 🙏
It's surf buzzword bingo.
😂
Squirty = alive, energetic, zippy
Drivey = squirty in a forward motion
Stiff = knees feel like they’re guna break because board not squirty enough
@@KalesBroccoli epic cheers!
Just drop the video 😂
Nice vid!
Aaaaw, how I wish to have a wave pool like that close to where I live...
cool video nice to see some real board test !
You should talk about the bottom concave in the next one. Interested to know what you liked/didn’t like, double vs single for these smaller wave boards.
Totally agree.
For sure! We did actually film that on every board however found that it just stretched the episodes too long and became a little disengaging
@@Patrick_whittaker1 single to double to promote extra lift, drive and responsiveness. Especially in smaller surf✓
@@KalesBroccoli Not for those who are interested in design.
@@KalesBroccoli Also the rocker. Probably the rocker is the most important feature in surfboards design.
Mayhem should have sent an Uber XL or Puddle Jumper HP. I think that would suit your style and the pool better. but oh well. Great job on the reviews btw!
For sure! But it is also great to highlight how sometimes the performance short board scene Has its limitations
That album looks so fun. Ya I got a pyzalien 2 and it's so much fun. Fast and forgiving.
I’ve ridden before and loved !
You said you wished so and so would've sent a different model. That leads me to ask, did the shapers know you would be judging their boards in a small wave pool? If so, they may have sent an alternate small wave model. I think you said in your first test video that you requested their best current high performance surfboard to be sent for testing. Which makes it even stranger the assorted variety of shapes you received!! Excellent production as always. Cheers
The brief was “a surfboard for every day waves for every day surfers at Kale’s dims”
Love this stuff Kale
Thank you
Hi bud im 6foot 6 i ride 7 foot boards but would like to try a shorter board would a 6 6 be a good jumo down
Another great video Kale keep them coming from all in the Uk🤙🤙🤙
Thank you!
I remember kalani robb saying he only had one board he likes in Kelly's pool I don't know if pools could be accurate at getting a impression still it was a great comparison
Banger vid homie
Thank you!
I have been wating for this vid all week .could you do a vid of how to get used to bigger waves
I have scroll through the feed :)
Can't wait
Much appreciation kale! But wrong mayhem and pyzel to test in tiny pool waves. You cant compare a fish to a board like the sub driver and shadow! Please compare similar board types next time perhaps the pyzel astro pop and mayhem rnf 96
This is so sick bro!
I reckon the JS would go better with proper keels not the MR twin... They do look like they suit the album shape though
appreciate it kale !! its awesome !
Thank you !
What camera equipment do u use
I had a Sub Driver a while back that I was not a big fan of either. I’m pretty sure it has a very low tail rocker and that is what I attributed it to. I also had the standard Driver model and loved that board. Completely different animal.
I bought a Twinsman a few months ago and have been loving it. Not sure if you tried it on the left but I think it also goes great backside which is usually not ideal for a twin.
Awesome!
You have to make a review of the rnf retro Mayhem surfboard with the al Merick keel twin fins
Wouldn't the phantom be the better pyzel to test as a daily driver? I might be wrong but I could have sworn that the shadow was advertised as the more performancy, good-wave version of the phantom.
I’d say so
Bring on round 3 🥊
Hey Kale. Just curious as to your height and weight? Been looking at Album's Twinsman in a 5'8. I'm 5'8 185 lbs and surf mostly beach break Florida not so good surf. I'm an intermediate to advanced surfer/ weekend warrior/ I used to surf a lot better haha type surfer. My normal everyday thruster shortboard is 5'8 32 liters epoxy and floats me fine, but looking for something a little more fun. But looking for an everyday driver that's an easy choice even if the waves get good! Do you recommend going your height, or shorter? What construction is the Twinsman you're riding? Thanks for your great videos!
At start of episode
@@KalesBroccoli i see, oops i missed it the first go around
Kale your videos are some of the best on TH-cam, on any subject.
I'd like to suggest a small tweak for this series. At the end when you give your star ratings if you could include which board it is on your graphic it would be a big help to other stupid people like me!
Thanks for existing man
Ah sorry Michael! We found it just made the screen too busy with more writing and thought if we did it chronologically after the board’s reaction it would make sense - will see what we can do! Thanks brother appreciate it
@@KalesBroccoli that definitely makes sense. No worries I'm probably in the minority anyway! Cheers
What do you think about the fire wire gready beaver ?
Really interested what you think the difference would be if you used the Red Baron with keel fins. The fin box placement on it are designed for keels, not uprights like you used, but even so just interesting if it would feel any better!
For sure wish I had some!
wish you did a review for the pyzalien 2!
To bad Hayden didn’t send you the Hypto. Excellent video
Your surfing on the Pyzel looked insane
Thanks
I totally agree, can we have a viewerʻs poll?
You should look to the Hawaiian boards. T and C been at it long time. Much respect