The pin can only drop out if the swing arm that holds the key blade in is cracked. If this is the case you can get another remote housing, but be for warned: You can push the pin in on a used case that does not have the electronics you want to keep, but NEVER PUSH THE PIN IN ON THE WORKING IMMOBILIZER ENABLED KEY. VW never intended for the pin to be pushed in or even removed for that matter. IF YOU DO PUNCH THE PIN IN you run the risk of knocking a itty-bitty surface mount resistor off the board near the RDIF chip. Once this resistor is gone the auto with not start and you will get a "NO KEY" error. I wish someone had warned me. The TH-cam video suggest that punching the pin in is the answer, but it is really a very expensive accident waiting to happen. Once Again: Pin in on transplant Remote (OK) // Pin in on Immobilizer Paired remote (Don't Do It!). It takes a lot of force but you can open the remote without touching the pin. Good Luck. TDI Love from Chicago...
Hello Tutoriale auto peeps! I'm the owner of a '12 Jetta Base Model. My flip device broke and I replaced it using the advice in your video. I bought a spare key case from Amazon and replaced the flip device and inserted my original key blade in it. However, after succesfully doing this and assembling my key with new flip, I got a NO KEY FOUND error. This is odd to me, since I am using all the parts from my original key, yet the car is not reading. Any idea why that is? I would REALLY appreciate your help with this. Thank you, Gui :)
+TUTORIALE AUTO Thank you for your promt response! Really? Even though I'm still using my original key blade and chip? The only thing I replaced was the hinge device in the flip system. Thank you for the time
I did the same thing and got the same "NO KEY FOUND" error. The swing arm broke where it holds the key blade. As it turns out... YOU SHOULD NEVER PUSH THE REMOTE CASE PIN IN on the working remote. Why you might ask? Because The pin does not have a set exit area and as a result when it punctures the inner plastic wall near the silver RFID chip (Crypto MegaMOS MG10-48) you run the risk of knocking a super small resistor off the board. This is what happened to me. I was able to start the car by re-opening the key an holding the MG10-48 chip directly against the plastic around the ignition key ring in the 9 O'clock position. I had the board and key separate. It took a couple of tries but it works. Once you start the car you can take the MG10-48 RFID chip away and the car will continue to run. I drove to a local Automotive Locksmith and spent about $500 for two new keys for my 2012 VW JETTA TDI. The old remote's immobilizer works but without the small resistor the RFID signal is not amplified enough to communicate with the Immobilizer circuit. It will work outside the remote case and right up against the immobilizer reader ring around the ignition switch. There is a way to pull the pin out (drilling two holds near the pin) or just brute-force pry the remote case open without touching the pin. You take your pick. If I knew that knocking the pin in with a nail and a hammer would cost me over $400 I would have opted to pull the pin out. Oh! BTW if you can not drive your car to the lock-smith because of "NO KEY FOUND" then it will cost twice as much or you will have to get a tow into the dealer, and not all dealers charge the same for immobilizer key service, and all VW dealers have to order keys from VWoA which takes anywhere from 2 to 7 days. TDI Love from Chicago...
GallowayChicago that's exactly what happened to me. I learned it the hard way. By knocking the pin down I damaged the circuit board of my key. I ended up taking it to Vw and ordered a new key from the factory and they reprogrammed it to my car. Luckily I didn't have to tow it since the old key at least worked sporadically.
This whole adventure makes me want to do away with the immobilizer system. I have 5 Vdubs and 4 have Immobilizer enabled ECU. I thought the side-keys were supposed to stop car thieves. Now, I see that thieves can read your new stronger keyless RFID signals from up to 50ft away and clone it. what is the point? It is time for face/voice recognition as a car key. At least I know I will never lose my face and/or voice. I always think about people cutting off your finger for fingerprint ID systems, and it gives me the hee-bee-gee-bees. I am a tech guy that does not trust tech. Go figure. TDI Love from The Windy City (Chicago)...
I was stuck with a key that would not start my 2012 VW Jetta because I knocked the pin in on the remote. That whole adventure and the related costs to get two new keys makes me want to do away with the immobilizer system completely. I have 5 Vdubs and 4 have Immobilizer enabled ECUs. I thought the side-keys were supposed to stop car thieves, but companies half a world away can cut an exact duplicate of my car key from a photo. Now, I see that thieves can read your new stronger keyless RFID key signals from up to 50ft away and clone it. I used to have a steering wheel club lock because it promised to keep my car safe from car thieves, but the city would snap them off like they weren't even there. Even The Clubs(tm) changing the locks over and over because thieves got smarter and smarter. What is the point of still approaching this problem using old key & lock technologies? It is time for face/voice recognition as a car key. At least I know I will never lose my face and/or voice. I always think about people cutting off your finger(s) for fingerprint ID systems, and it gives me the hee-bee-gee-bees. I am a tech guy that does not trust tech. Go figure. TDI Love from The Windy City (Chicago)...
What about accidents that can majorly scar your face. Would that disable face recognition? What if you had a cold. Would that disable voice recognition? Besides, people could record your voice. Phishing scams do it already. The best thing you can do is to use visible and multiple layers of protection where the thieves will move on because yours would take too much time and effort. It's easier for them to move on to an easier target. One thing that I added to my Honda was the window vibration/impact to my alarm system. I replaced that window 5 times, but after making the change, it stopped. I'll be doing the same thing to the VW.
I will say, putting the blade and pin into a new key fob is more difficult than a new blade into the same key fob. I ended up just getting a drill bit as far in as I could and breaking it off as the new "pin" in a new key fob.
Not easy, no. Both on my new key and my old one it was ridiculously difficult with a nail and a hammer. What worked was cutting the nail in half (so it's almost the same size as the pin), positioning it on top, and pushing it in with pliers. After I figured that method out on the first key, the second one took me 5 mins :)
Thank you this worked for me, I purchased OEM Remote, swapped the blade and programmed the FOB.
Fernando Trujillo Thank you for watching!
Very nice bro helpful video ❤
Glad it helped
Very good i was having the same problem with my key your video was very help full for me thanks
Masood Akram Warraich Thank you for watching!
So put old key in new fob the. You only have to program the fob ?
My key blade snapped in half, I was wondering if I replace the blade with a new one into the existing fob will the key have to be reprogrammed?
Ashley Rahn No, you don’t have to reprogrammed the key.
@@Servicetutorials How come these newer keys dont have a programm chip? But the old Mk 4 key does have a chip
Can you post video on how to fix cracked floor tile please? Its urgent before my wife comes home...
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man this is super thanks !
THE TOPS Thank you for watching!
Any help for a cracked swing arm?
Mark McHale Hi, Mark! You can try and make a copy.
Where must I get the pin for a key because the key its broken
mxolisi bembe You can buy a new key fob.
Is this skoda fabia key ?
very usefull , thanks!!
Saul AROCHI Thank you for watching!
Thanks man
Mazin Jabarin Thank you for watching!
Thx a ton!
hi, very good technic. does it matter from what side hit the pin? is the the same or it has a kind of orientation?
enrico tassoni Hi Enrico! It doesn't matter, you can take it out in both ways.
Thank you :)
Thank you for watching!
Any hints on where to get a replacement pin if you dropped it and its lost?
I have the same problem the pin dropped out - I really just need teh replacement silver bit with a pin.... VW UP is that possible???
The pin can only drop out if the swing arm that holds the key blade in is cracked. If this is the case you can get another remote housing, but be for warned: You can push the pin in on a used case that does not have the electronics you want to keep, but NEVER PUSH THE PIN IN ON THE WORKING IMMOBILIZER ENABLED KEY. VW never intended for the pin to be pushed in or even removed for that matter. IF YOU DO PUNCH THE PIN IN you run the risk of knocking a itty-bitty surface mount resistor off the board near the RDIF chip. Once this resistor is gone the auto with not start and you will get a "NO KEY" error. I wish someone had warned me. The TH-cam video suggest that punching the pin in is the answer, but it is really a very expensive accident waiting to happen. Once Again: Pin in on transplant Remote (OK) // Pin in on Immobilizer Paired remote (Don't Do It!). It takes a lot of force but you can open the remote without touching the pin. Good Luck.
TDI Love from Chicago...
Hello Tutoriale auto peeps! I'm the owner of a '12 Jetta Base Model. My flip device broke and I replaced it using the advice in your video. I bought a spare key case from Amazon and replaced the flip device and inserted my original key blade in it. However, after succesfully doing this and assembling my key with new flip, I got a NO KEY FOUND error. This is odd to me, since I am using all the parts from my original key, yet the car is not reading. Any idea why that is? I would REALLY appreciate your help with this.
Thank you, Gui :)
Hello! Probably you have to program or recoding the new key using VCDS.
+TUTORIALE AUTO Thank you for your promt response!
Really? Even though I'm still using my original key blade and chip? The only thing I replaced was the hinge device in the flip system.
Thank you for the time
I did the same thing and got the same "NO KEY FOUND" error. The swing arm broke where it holds the key blade. As it turns out... YOU SHOULD NEVER PUSH THE REMOTE CASE PIN IN on the working remote. Why you might ask? Because The pin does not have a set exit area and as a result when it punctures the inner plastic wall near the silver RFID chip (Crypto MegaMOS MG10-48) you run the risk of knocking a super small resistor off the board. This is what happened to me. I was able to start the car by re-opening the key an holding the MG10-48 chip directly against the plastic around the ignition key ring in the 9 O'clock position. I had the board and key separate. It took a couple of tries but it works. Once you start the car you can take the MG10-48 RFID chip away and the car will continue to run. I drove to a local Automotive Locksmith and spent about $500 for two new keys for my 2012 VW JETTA TDI. The old remote's immobilizer works but without the small resistor the RFID signal is not amplified enough to communicate with the Immobilizer circuit. It will work outside the remote case and right up against the immobilizer reader ring around the ignition switch. There is a way to pull the pin out (drilling two holds near the pin) or just brute-force pry the remote case open without touching the pin. You take your pick. If I knew that knocking the pin in with a nail and a hammer would cost me over $400 I would have opted to pull the pin out. Oh! BTW if you can not drive your car to the lock-smith because of "NO KEY FOUND" then it will cost twice as much or you will have to get a tow into the dealer, and not all dealers charge the same for immobilizer key service, and all VW dealers have to order keys from VWoA which takes anywhere from 2 to 7 days.
TDI Love from Chicago...
GallowayChicago that's exactly what happened to me. I learned it the hard way. By knocking the pin down I damaged the circuit board of my key. I ended up taking it to Vw and ordered a new key from the factory and they reprogrammed it to my car. Luckily I didn't have to tow it since the old key at least worked sporadically.
This whole adventure makes me want to do away with the immobilizer system. I have 5 Vdubs and 4 have Immobilizer enabled ECU. I thought the side-keys were supposed to stop car thieves. Now, I see that thieves can read your new stronger keyless RFID signals from up to 50ft away and clone it. what is the point? It is time for face/voice recognition as a car key. At least I know I will never lose my face and/or voice. I always think about people cutting off your finger for fingerprint ID systems, and it gives me the hee-bee-gee-bees. I am a tech guy that does not trust tech. Go figure.
TDI Love from The Windy City (Chicago)...
I was stuck with a key that would not start my 2012 VW Jetta because I knocked the pin in on the remote. That whole adventure and the related costs to get two new keys makes me want to do away with the immobilizer system completely. I have 5 Vdubs and 4 have Immobilizer enabled ECUs. I thought the side-keys were supposed to stop car thieves, but companies half a world away can cut an exact duplicate of my car key from a photo. Now, I see that thieves can read your new stronger keyless RFID key signals from up to 50ft away and clone it. I used to have a steering wheel club lock because it promised to keep my car safe from car thieves, but the city would snap them off like they weren't even there. Even The Clubs(tm) changing the locks over and over because thieves got smarter and smarter. What is the point of still approaching this problem using old key & lock technologies? It is time for face/voice recognition as a car key. At least I know I will never lose my face and/or voice. I always think about people cutting off your finger(s) for fingerprint ID systems, and it gives me the hee-bee-gee-bees. I am a tech guy that does not trust tech. Go figure.
TDI Love from The Windy City (Chicago)...
What about accidents that can majorly scar your face. Would that disable face recognition? What if you had a cold. Would that disable voice recognition? Besides, people could record your voice. Phishing scams do it already. The best thing you can do is to use visible and multiple layers of protection where the thieves will move on because yours would take too much time and effort. It's easier for them to move on to an easier target. One thing that I added to my Honda was the window vibration/impact to my alarm system. I replaced that window 5 times, but after making the change, it stopped. I'll be doing the same thing to the VW.
@tutoriale auto oh thanks so much this video helped a lot. :)
Lester Garcia Thank you for watching!
I will say, putting the blade and pin into a new key fob is more difficult than a new blade into the same key fob. I ended up just getting a drill bit as far in as I could and breaking it off as the new "pin" in a new key fob.
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Mine became reprogrammed some how.
Tried hours to remove the small pin, couldn’t do it, NOT EASY like this video shows
It's easy if you use the correct pin to remove it. Thank you for watching!
Its easy you can see the cut in the middle of key dont hit from that side hit from other side with nail it comes out
Not easy, no. Both on my new key and my old one it was ridiculously difficult with a nail and a hammer. What worked was cutting the nail in half (so it's almost the same size as the pin), positioning it on top, and pushing it in with pliers. After I figured that method out on the first key, the second one took me 5 mins :)
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