i'm a TnBer but i've never said RH and FL don't have chemistry. they absolutely do and i love their combative scenes together. still think blair is the love of todd's life and tea is some sort of warped mother figure...
@twbaldwi I love that TnT are wearing like colors, so cute. I don't think it was intentional but still cool to see :-) RH looks really good in these scenes, and so those Flo, will miss my favorite couple of more than a decade come next week.
I love how Todd is just sitting there with this grin as if he knew that his woman was about to walk right through those doors, and he was just waiting patiently for her to make her appearance.
Tea isn't "his woman" by any stretch. He's all about Blair romantically. He tells Vicki that he's thought about Blair "every day" while captive and he tells Blair that she kept him alive. He also reminds Blair how close he came to death trying to get home to her from the island. It's very clear whose man he wants to be: Blair's! And Tea's still Victor's woman, not Todd's. She's crazy about Victor and grieving him badly. TnT were done long ago except as exes, friends, frenemies.
Very soon after Todd's return, Tea starts berating Todd, mostly because she thinks he killed Victor. It's surprising how unloving these two are by the end of Todd's story in 2013; they barely speak. Tea still resents Todd's past rejections of her and that he "abandoned'' her on the island. Then add newer, more painful, resentments toward him: her beloved Victor's (attempted) murder and still to come after this scene, Tomas's kidnapping and the baby switch. All Tea's hurt and anger leads to considerable distance between them over time.
Loved when Todd asked Tea @ 3:57 - And how about you, you supposed to be the "brains" of this little outfit (as he points to him and her), you was always the smart one, if you were so smart how come you didn't see right thru him? Todd really was upset that Tea fell for Victor, thinking it was him!!!!
Todd was very upset and angry with everyone and you can understand why. Not one person realized they were dealing with an imposter. They didn't know him well enough to realize there was something very wrong and the differences between the two characters.... It's odd that no one realized
Love RH forever,just noting that his appearance drastically changed at his return,maybe had some work done? Either way...he still is so handsome,and ultra cool.
Johnny Orgovan, exactly! Todd did not abandon Téa on the island; he tried to get her to go with him. It was Téa who urged Todd to leave her. Just because she would have rather that he not leave and beg her some more to go with him, that's abandoning her? Not in my book. Then again, I suppose it depends on how a person defines "abandon." Still, I hate when the writers and some Todd and Blair fans act as though Todd simply up and left the island without any regard for Téa's well-being.
When Todd visited Vicki, after his return from the island, she was outraged because he had not yet contacted rescuers. She also pointed out that he took the only raft. Plus, Todd asked Tea to go with him but she made it very clear that she wanted him to stay. Tea makes sense when she uses the word "abandoned". She has good reason to feel that way.
@maimeable Yes, they both still look beautiful and I love RH and FL as TnT. It really hurts as a fan what has been done to their history, but I'm greatful for what we do have they gave us a fascinating journey and it's been amazing seeing RH and FL on our screens again. I will really miss the show especially now since Roger just came back and we didn't get that much time with him back in the role, but I hope we have a good closing for them it's been kind of rough as a fan in many ways.
I never liked Victor because he deserved what happened to him. Because he is a abusive asshole for hurting Starr like that. Because if that wasn't Starr like if that was Dani then I would hate him and get rid of him permanently.
Absolutely hated Victor. He was a coward and a fraud and everyone fawned all over him, and treated him like a victim when I think it was clear he knew that he was impersonating his brother. After he found out he had absolutely zero remorse and just wanted to hurt Todd more.
Refresh my memory. Was Todd really afraid of having real intimacy with Tea? He didn't seem to have any intimacy problems with Blaire. Did Delgado reach a part of him that was truly vulnerable or did being in a more normal and less drama-filled relationship with Tea terrify Todd? Or did the lines blur for Todd because he was a victim of sexual abuse as a child and that he was afraid of sexually hurting Tea? Or maybe Tea has the ability to truly reach that part of him that is still scared and horribly damaged from childhood that sexually terrifies Todd. Todd obviously loved Tea at one point and still does. There's instant chemistry between them both as soon as the two of them are in a room together. The yelling, screaming, insults, accusations and endless drama and hurting each other is just the other side of passion's coin.
I think there were a few reasons he couldn’t feel comfortable being physical with Tea. Blair was the first person he was intimate with after raping Marty and Blair typically led Todd to bed, they also had sex a lot during their first marriage. Todd seemed to love Tea because he thought she was better than him and could save him, he loved Blair because he felt comfortable with her and felt that they were two sides of the same coin. He just connected better with Blair, emotionally and physically. They had a lot more chemistry than Todd and Tea.
I just think he and Blair really loved one another and he saved all his passion for her. I think he cared for Tea but she wasn't the love of his life, And he did have intimacy problems with her
The fighting may be the other side of passion's coin but the passion itself has been conspicuously and consistently lacking. None in 97-98 or 2000, very little in 2002 (with the sex followed by rejection) and none after that.
But I think you can get it work and then they have been able too!the next couple of my mind Todd me for not a few years ago and the most popular culture to be at home and the window is one occasion when I have a great day!and yes we do have your number in the same thing
I wonder what Tea would do if Todd just grabbed her and kissed her long and hard? Maybe, just maybe, for a split second we'd actually get to see that flame that's still in her heart for Todd before she let him have it verbally with insults and emotional denials. Oops. I just answered my own question. LOL.
i'm a TnBer but i've never said RH and FL don't have chemistry. they absolutely do and i love their combative scenes together. still think blair is the love of todd's life and tea is some sort of warped mother figure...
Words cannot express how happy these scenes made me I love TnT so much!!! Thanks noelgirl21 for uploading!
Thanks so much for continuing these edits with this wonderful couple!!!
@twbaldwi I love that TnT are wearing like colors, so cute. I don't think it was intentional but still cool to see :-)
RH looks really good in these scenes, and so those Flo, will miss my favorite couple of more than a decade come next week.
I love how Todd is just sitting there with this grin as if he knew that his woman was about to walk right through those doors, and he was just waiting patiently for her to make her appearance.
Tea isn't "his woman" by any stretch. He's all about Blair romantically. He tells Vicki that he's thought about Blair "every day" while captive and he tells Blair that she kept him alive. He also reminds Blair how close he came to death trying to get home to her from the island. It's very clear whose man he wants to be: Blair's! And Tea's still Victor's woman, not Todd's. She's crazy about Victor and grieving him badly. TnT were done long ago except as exes, friends, frenemies.
Very soon after Todd's return, Tea starts berating Todd, mostly because she thinks he killed Victor. It's surprising how unloving these two are by the end of Todd's story in 2013; they barely speak. Tea still resents Todd's past rejections of her and that he "abandoned'' her on the island. Then add newer, more painful, resentments toward him: her beloved Victor's (attempted) murder and still to come after this scene, Tomas's kidnapping and the baby switch. All Tea's hurt and anger leads to considerable distance between them over time.
Loved when Todd asked Tea @ 3:57 - And how about you, you supposed to be the "brains" of this little outfit (as he points to him and her), you was always the smart one, if you were so smart how come you didn't see right thru him? Todd really was upset that Tea fell for Victor, thinking it was him!!!!
Todd was very upset and angry with everyone and you can understand why. Not one person realized they were dealing with an imposter. They didn't know him well enough to realize there was something very wrong and the differences between the two characters.... It's odd that no one realized
He had the same response with Blair re: Victor. Todd's just frustrated that no one knew that Victor wasn't him.
Love RH forever,just noting that his appearance drastically changed at his return,maybe had some work done? Either way...he still is so handsome,and ultra cool.
@sp8400 If I remember right, didn't Todd once call Blair, the "town pump" ?
I’m 50 years late but that was Max
No, he never called her that. It was Max who said that.
As much as I love roger as Todd manning he treated Blair and Tea like shit but they always forgave him
Johnny Orgovan, exactly! Todd did not abandon Téa on the island; he tried to get her to go with him. It was Téa who urged Todd to leave her. Just because she would have rather that he not leave and beg her some more to go with him, that's abandoning her? Not in my book. Then again, I suppose it depends on how a person defines "abandon." Still, I hate when the writers and some Todd and Blair fans act as though Todd simply up and left the island without any regard for Téa's well-being.
When Todd visited Vicki, after his return from the island, she was outraged because he had not yet contacted rescuers. She also pointed out that he took the only raft. Plus, Todd asked Tea to go with him but she made it very clear that she wanted him to stay. Tea makes sense when she uses the word "abandoned". She has good reason to feel that way.
Todd's right, he would never push his daughter Starr down the stairs when she was pregnant. He loves her too much to do that to his own daughter.
Everyone is too self-righteous to admit their fault. One of the reasons why I'm glad they're all suffering.
That was a total accident
"Right! What a guy!" 😂😂😂
Todd and Tea NOT Tea and Victor.
Nope. Todd remarried Blair and Tea was focused on Victor, not Todd. She and Todd were frenemies by the end of his story.
@msariah Word! RH and FL are top notch. They convey so much.
@maimeable Yes, they both still look beautiful and I love RH and FL as TnT. It really hurts as a fan what has been done to their history, but I'm greatful for what we do have they gave us a fascinating journey and it's been amazing seeing RH and FL on our screens again. I will really miss the show especially now since Roger just came back and we didn't get that much time with him back in the role, but I hope we have a good closing for them it's been kind of rough as a fan in many ways.
I never liked Victor because he deserved what happened to him. Because he is a abusive asshole for hurting Starr like that. Because if that wasn't Starr like if that was Dani then I would hate him and get rid of him permanently.
Absolutely hated Victor. He was a coward and a fraud and everyone fawned all over him, and treated him like a victim when I think it was clear he knew that he was impersonating his brother. After he found out he had absolutely zero remorse and just wanted to hurt Todd more.
Yepper !! Real Smacker as always, :) LOL!!! They still got it. Next I expect Tea to pull his hair like she did on the island!!
@noelgirl21 I hope we get more scenes with TNT too. I think that there will be some more coming soon and I want some Todd and Dani scenes too.
@twbaldwi I'm not a fan of TnT. But I do agree with you about having more Todd and Dani scenes.
Refresh my memory. Was Todd really afraid of having real intimacy with Tea? He didn't seem to have any intimacy problems with Blaire. Did Delgado reach a part of him that was truly vulnerable or did being in a more normal and less drama-filled relationship with Tea terrify Todd? Or did the lines blur for Todd because he was a victim of sexual abuse as a child and that he was afraid of sexually hurting Tea? Or maybe Tea has the ability to truly reach that part of him that is still scared and horribly damaged from childhood that sexually terrifies Todd. Todd obviously loved Tea at one point and still does. There's instant chemistry between them both as soon as the two of them are in a room together. The yelling, screaming, insults, accusations and endless drama and hurting each other is just the other side of passion's coin.
I think there were a few reasons he couldn’t feel comfortable being physical with Tea. Blair was the first person he was intimate with after raping Marty and Blair typically led Todd to bed, they also had sex a lot during their first marriage. Todd seemed to love Tea because he thought she was better than him and could save him, he loved Blair because he felt comfortable with her and felt that they were two sides of the same coin. He just connected better with Blair, emotionally and physically. They had a lot more chemistry than Todd and Tea.
I just think he and Blair really loved one another and he saved all his passion for her. I think he cared for Tea but she wasn't the love of his life, And he did have intimacy problems with her
The fighting may be the other side of passion's coin but the passion itself has been conspicuously and consistently lacking. None in 97-98 or 2000, very little in 2002 (with the sex followed by rejection) and none after that.
He didn't kill her husband because the real love of her life she just gave a love slap too.
@sp8400 Amen to that.
But I think you can get it work and then they have been able too!the next couple of my mind Todd me for not a few years ago and the most popular culture to be at home and the window is one occasion when
I have a great day!and yes we do have your number in the same thing
I wonder what Tea would do if Todd just grabbed her and kissed her long and hard? Maybe, just maybe, for a split second we'd actually get to see that flame that's still in her heart for Todd before she let him have it verbally with insults and emotional denials. Oops. I just answered my own question. LOL.
Todd wouldn't do that anyway. He never even glances at Tea romantically and he's lazer focused on getting Blair back.
I love how much he hates that tea fell for victor (cuz I hated it too lol)
I don't like his new character! he's not as crazy as the real Franco!
@Dark Demonik More brilliant. He was always one step ahead of everyone else.