Why Artillery Guns Always Shoot Short at Night

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  • @NotWhatYouThink
    @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +571

    Correction: Peltors not Peltons
    Thank you everyone for pointing it out!

    • @fuqupal
      @fuqupal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Why are you talking like an early 90's Jerry Seinfeld?

    • @Anarcho-harambeism
      @Anarcho-harambeism 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      i repair these, quite a fun job, if your a masochists'

    • @bearb1asting
      @bearb1asting 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      How did you get the opportunity

    • @ClubPenguinMaster88
      @ClubPenguinMaster88 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I like how I came to the comments to see if this was talked about. Glad you corrected

    • @watchonjar
      @watchonjar 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ngl my guy i thought u where ai this whole time 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mirandahotspring4019
    @mirandahotspring4019 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1481

    Conversation with a gunner.
    "Hi, what's your job?"
    "Eh, what?"
    "WHAT'S YOUR JOB HERE?"
    "Oh yeah, fine thanks."

    • @Nova-ro5by
      @Nova-ro5by 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +168

      The VA has determined your hearing loss is not service related

    • @liquidrockaquatics3900
      @liquidrockaquatics3900 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      As a medic on a gun line with 198’s I can confirm

    • @michaelellis3091
      @michaelellis3091 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      ​@Nova-ro5by Navy boot camp ruined my my feet! I had to teach the xray techs at the VA how to take xrays of my feet to show the result of wearing (and marching) the Navy Fleet Shoes! For anyone not familiar, the fleet shoes were made of very thin leather, and a poor, flat sole.
      So there was no support from the first time you wore them, and were stretched out after wearing them for a couple weeks! Can you say fallen arches?

    • @Adjust-Fire-jy3dy
      @Adjust-Fire-jy3dy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      We call it "artillery ears". Lol.

    • @user-ur3gr2qs6i
      @user-ur3gr2qs6i 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      An exposure of 100 decibels for a max of 15 minutes per 24 hours is the workplace permissible level for any person. Any more causes permanent damage. That's backed up by research because insurance doesn't like paying so they know exactly what their limit is. Where your damn hearing protection dummy. Sorry I mean WEAR YOUR DAMN HEARING PROTECTION!!

  • @HistorysRaven
    @HistorysRaven 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1055

    "The more Marines you have, the easier it is to operate the gun," he says while seven Marines stand around watching one Marine work to lift the gun into position. Regardless of the service, nothing ever changes.

    • @littlehills739
      @littlehills739 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

      same as work you learn if you beet deadlines or exceeded out put
      you get rewarded with more work or volen-told to go sweep/mop the rain

    • @Hellsong89
      @Hellsong89 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

      Its good to have more guys than not enough, specially if accidents happen that take out manpower like injury, say snake bite, counter battery fire hitting close before getting hell out of the dodge etc. Also ability to swap tired guys to fresh ones and rotate them to keep rate of fire at the maximum.

    • @ChuckHuffmaster
      @ChuckHuffmaster 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Wait till they start sending rounds down range

    • @edwardblair4096
      @edwardblair4096 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      @@HistorysRaven with extra people you have someone ready to take over when one person gets too tired.

    • @iainburgess8577
      @iainburgess8577 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      that's... not the why or how of that saying in regards to artillery.
      manual artillery requires a variety of very physical, very specific tasks to operate the gun.
      one man Can operate an artillery piece, for several, Very Slow shots. for a very limited time before he is physically spent.
      if you want rounds down range, accurate and for extended timeframes, you need a large, well drilled team.
      where some of those men are on a rest rotation.

  • @m4rvinmartian
    @m4rvinmartian 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +390

    *5:00** This was worth watching just to find out that every Howitzer round is delivered with a turkey thermometer in it.*

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      Happy Thanksgiving!

    • @jasont587
      @jasont587 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      The round doesn't have a thermometer, the powder does.

    • @45CaliberCure
      @45CaliberCure 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@jasont587 Wait, how does this go. Oh, here and here, and... "Your Mom has a thermometer". Yep, that's it. :)

    • @matt45540
      @matt45540 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Until you find out that they get charged the price of a turkey for that thermometer... Probably I'm just making that up

    • @sayorancode
      @sayorancode 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@matt45540 no it's the military they get charged the price of the container it took to transport the turkey

  • @anony88
    @anony88 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +605

    I worked in FDC (U.S. Army) for 6 years. 82nd Airborne and 25th ID out of Hawaii. I enjoyed it. I also did my job in Afghanistan. We trained literally daily back in the united states. Some of it was in the field, but most of it was in an office doing math and etc.. Some of the training was a bit tedious for sure, but it wasn't a bad job at all. We used laptops to calculate firing data of course, but we had to know how to do everything manually. When calculating firing data you gotta take into account so many factors. More than just the target coordinates. There's gun coordinates, gun altitude, target coordinates, target altitude, MVV (muzzle velocity variation) which is the wear and tear of the tube over time (these numbers come from routine tests done on the cannon). We also took into account meteorological data (temperature, wind speed, etc) for every thousand feet. We'd get that info every hour from a weather team at another location. We had to take into account the temperature of the propellant, which we got from the gunline every so often. We would literally take into account the rotation of the earth.
    We'd also take into account things like time detonation for the rounds. We would tell the gunline what time to set their rounds to, to ensure it explodes just above the ground. We had to calculate the time from shooting until impact. We would tell the forward observers (infantry) 10 seconds before rounds hit the target. If infantry wanted to do a correction ("up 50 meters, down 100"), we would calculate all of the new data and tell the gunline the new deflection (left/right) and quadrant (up/down). Every round shot is manually recorded onto a record of fire sheet. For illumination rounds, we would have to calculate the exact coordinates of where the cannister would land after the illum round ignites in the sky, to ensure the cannister doesn't land on anything important.. This is necessary to ensure the cannisters of the illum rounds don't fall on people / homes / etc.. It's a requirement because that stuff has happened lol.

    • @jackwalker9492
      @jackwalker9492 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      I started in the 82nd (11B). You guys saved a lot of lives. Thank you and Salute.

    • @RvnKnight
      @RvnKnight 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I was a 13P (same thing but MLRS specialized) around 20 years ago in OIF I (4ID) and OEF VII & VIII (attached to the 82nd). I got to do a bit of cross training with the Q37s and the M777 in Afghanistan.

    • @IonOtter
      @IonOtter 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      That is why you hit your targets 9 times out of 10, while the Russians might hit 1 out of 20. Also, about the illumination rounds? I was Navy, stationed at NCTAMS PAC in Wahiawa, HI. Back in 2003, you guys set the range on fire using those illumination rounds. NBD on the windward side, but ooo-ee, the Kanaka Ma'oli got really mad when you overshot and landed in Makaha Valley. But I have a question? Some of the illumination rounds were a sort of amber/orange, and stayed up for 20-30 minutes. They fall, but really slow. How do they stay up that long? Is it the heat from the flare, keeping it aloft under the parachute? Or is it something else? I would always LOL when civilians would get all crazy, calling them UFOs.

    • @arkhitek2251
      @arkhitek2251 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I was a gun bunny in 2nd Brigade 11th Field Artillery Regiment in the 25th Infantry Division out of Schofield, Barricks, Hawaii. From October 2006-September 2009. We were the first in the Army to receive and operate the M777.
      I have to say, thanks for making my job easy 😜

    • @anony88
      @anony88 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@jackwalker9492 thank you Jack. Yeah I got to do my job in Afghanistan (Kunar valley) and we definitely saved some lives there.. But our 11b's no doubt saved our lives too. It did get to a point where our gunline had to fight back against small arms at a closer range from our FA manned guard tower lol. But yeah, salute to you as well.

  • @MAGAman-uy7wh
    @MAGAman-uy7wh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +327

    While training at 29 Palms (29 stumps) in a combined arms exercise we "took the hill" at night after artillery had done its job. We set up camp with shelter halves. At sunrise we crawled out of the tents to start the day. That is when I saw the nose of a 155 round sticking up out of the sand about 10 feet from my "hooch". I let everyone know immediately and marked off the area with red tape. EOD was called and removed the round. I would NOT want their job.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      *EOD is fun. If you have a propensity to enjoy adrenaline, there's nothing better.*

    • @curtisroberts9137
      @curtisroberts9137 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

      That is crazy. I was in kuwait training in the late 90s and we were doing a m203 range. I went back about 50 yards to take a piss behind a sand dune. On the back side was an old soviet probably 180mm mortar round sticking out of the sand. I suddenlty realized I didn't need to piss that bad. Also I didn't need to shit either. My pants were full. LOL

    • @cucuawe465
      @cucuawe465 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      EOD is the best job,no one is gonna blame you for a mistake that happened

    • @SparkleDonkey
      @SparkleDonkey 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I worked on MCAGCC in the mid 90s doing survey work as a civilian but as ex Canadian AF member. I was amazed at how much unexploded or abandoned ordinance was literally everywhere on that base. It was routine to find dud mortars, rifle grenades, frag grenades, unexploded bombs, you name it. The worst was encountering old TOW missile wire which was nearly invisible and sliced up our boots and caused a few serious lacerations. It was fun working there but easily the most dangerous jobs Ive done.

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Didn't they just C4 detonate it in place, its a firing range, no civvies around
      Our EOD removes 100 year old WW1 gas shells here , fresh out of the Flemish soil...
      They typically don't blow em up in situ, cause, well, civie equipment and structures around, or if gas shells, the gas needs to be contained.
      they pick em up, all 100 year old , put em in a sand bed in the truck and drive em to the base
      I'm not military, but Talked to a former US EOD dude once, he calls our EOD flat out nuts and wouldn't wanna do their job

  • @rickpilhorn
    @rickpilhorn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +101

    THAT NET!!! It just gave me flashbacks and the twitchy eye. Camo net is such a pain in the ass, especially with the old BDU's with the buttons on both sides on your back. They were a natural 'catch all' for that netting. And when you took your top off, the waist adjusters on your pants took over. (for those who don't know: the netting would catch on the corners of our cargo pockets and belt loops so the buttons and adjusters were like boat anchors).

    • @jeraldbottcher1588
      @jeraldbottcher1588 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Truth! I hated the cammo net with every fiber of my being. It catches on everything real and imagined

    • @BlaubartMT
      @BlaubartMT 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yup, and if you were moving faster than a crawl, the net would rip your buttons off. I don't know how many buttons I lost to camo nets, and the Army only gave us about $200/year to maintain our uniforms, so that sucked.

    • @rickpilhorn
      @rickpilhorn 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jeraldbottcher1588 "every fiver of my being" hit me right bruh. I felt that.
      Going to the field really didn't suck until you started pulling out (or putting up) that satan cloth.

    • @JeffLocke1
      @JeffLocke1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No joke, that shit suuuucks!

    • @schoemannh
      @schoemannh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The goddamn sleeve cuff buttons, every time.

  • @InssiAjaton
    @InssiAjaton 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    “Longer lanyard” again reminded me of an experience I have told once. Here it comes again for the folks who missed it the first time. I served my time in military in Communication of Artillery. During one practice shooting I got permission to go back to the gun location and to try taking some photos of an actual shot. I was advised that it would be difficult to time properly. O.K, I would try. As it happened, I triggered my camera when I saw the pull of the (short) lanyard. And boy, WHAT A LUCK! I caught something very rare, an early explosion of the grenade, right out of the barrel. Huge black cloud. The shooting was interrupted, so I returned to my communication post, where we had a tremendously busy time. Turned out the ammunition we used was very old stock and got promptly declared dangerous. In an hour or so, we got instructions from the headquarters to continue the exercise, but with extra precautions, including long lanyards. Later on, I got my film developed and a copy made of my unique slide. That I gave to the lieutenant, who forwarded it higher up. After my service, I happened to meet him, that time major, and asked what had happened to my slide. He told the headquarters building had an enlargement posted on the main corridor wall. I don’t know if it is credited to me, or not, but I have felt so proud anyway.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Cool! Is that photo available online anywhere?

    • @InssiAjaton
      @InssiAjaton 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @ Sorry, I have not scanned the film slide. And actually I don’t even have the slide on hand. At best, I would find it next time I again go for my “vacation” next May/June. The “vacation” is the term that I used before retiring and find it still the nearest description.

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@InssiAjaton Was that in the Finnish military? I'm guessing you're a Finn based on your username.

    • @InssiAjaton
      @InssiAjaton 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ Correct. But you make me guess that you must have been in the old Roman folks, maybe a legionary ? Well, more likely the philosopher family…

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@InssiAjaton Haha! Well, I must admit I just liked the name. I'm a Finn as well (which probably would've been your second guess).

  • @cyberherbalist
    @cyberherbalist 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I was a US Army mortar crewman back in the day (81mm) and then transferred over the artillery as a forward observer. My M102 battery fired 105mm guns, and I never saw a gun fired. But I did see where the rounds landed, and did direct their fire. Tons of fun!

  • @ivandetoledo
    @ivandetoledo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    This is one of the most comprehensive videos about artillery I've ever watched. Congratulations!

    • @gonwest
      @gonwest 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He left out 1/3rd of team; forward observer....

  • @restaurantattheendofthegalaxy
    @restaurantattheendofthegalaxy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I was an FSO in a M-109A4 Bn. Rounds travel less far at night because night air is cooler and therfore more dense, ergo more friction. In reality the FDC takes this into account along with the temperature of the powder, etc.

  • @heyletsplaythis
    @heyletsplaythis 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    I absolutely love this hands-on documentary style videos that you’ve been doing lately. Keep up the good work, brother.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    Good show, and good on you and your team for going through all the steps it takes to get this kind of content.

  • @deecember69
    @deecember69 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Been there done that. The bees there will suck the sweat off your face if you don’t put an open water drum out 30’ for them! We helped prove out the first triple 7s there. Miss the old 175mm if you really wanted a kick! Barrel droop correction in temp was required because it was so heavy it hung, flipping up when shot in an over correction that needed the pocket scale ol’ John Schinchenol developed. I may have spelled his last wrong after all these years. Great guy.

    • @45CaliberCure
      @45CaliberCure 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Jesus Christ. That's neat stuff there, man. Thank you for the information.

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +134

    Artillery, still the king of the battlefield

    • @papakamirneron2514
      @papakamirneron2514 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Towed artillery is not though.

    • @Nicolas-zw5ex
      @Nicolas-zw5ex 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@papakamirneron2514 It still is, plus its cheaper to move than mechanized artillery

    • @Jose.AFT.Saddul
      @Jose.AFT.Saddul 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@Nicolas-zw5exLooking at the current conflict in Europe. Artillery has to be mobile and quick to move since they’re quite vulnerable to attack. Especially from drones and other Airstrikes.

    • @drehmaschineklein6626
      @drehmaschineklein6626 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Jose.AFT.Saddul M777 vs Lancet

    • @dustinspivey2519
      @dustinspivey2519 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think drones have taken there place much precise!

  • @Tsathogguah
    @Tsathogguah 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Wow, great video. Lugging those shells for 12 hours in the desert in full combat gear has to be very tiring work. Much respect for these crews that make it look so easy.

  • @DevilducV4
    @DevilducV4 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I was a 91F weapons mechanic based out of Fort Bragg, NC with the 82nd Airborne Division. I was also deployed to Afghanistan in support of OEF in 2010. You said in the video what happens if the round gets too hot, usually these guns don't jam, the force of the explosive is more than enough to get it down the tube. The heat can cause the casing to warp and there is a small chance it could detonate before leaving the tube. The other risk is something I personally witnessed where a crew had left a round in the tube after a cease fire was called and many rounds had been fired, so the tube was hot. Normally the crew is not sypposed to load until FDC (Fired Direction Control) gives them the order to "Load" then "Stand By" and finally, "Fire!" The tube should be empty after the last round until the command is given. One of the crews loaded a round in before they gave the order, it sat in a hot tube for a period of time, likely a couple of hours. When the command was given to fire, the tube exploded at the end and rattled the entire firing line. I dont think anyone was injured from this event. Our weapons repair was in a BSB (Brigade Support Batallion). There was an investigation launched to figure out what caused the failure. The howitzer had blown the end of the muzzle brake off, some pieces went up to a half mile, which comprised of 450 lbs of titanium. The end of the tube banana pealed some too. They brought the gun to our shop and around 0600 civlian contractors showed up with some fancy equipment. One of which was used to take video of the heat displaced in the tube, looking for weaknesses in the manufacturing process or damaged rifling. What happened was the thermometer was faulty and the crew said the heat was in the yellow, but because it was faulty it should have been in the red. When the round exited the muzzle after becoming warped from sitting in a hot tube, it caught the end of the muzzle brake from sort of "wobbling" out. The muzzle brake only has just millimeters of space as it exits. When it cuaght the end of the muzzle brake, the end of it burst into pieces, the round itself did not pre-detonate but instead went down range and impacted short. We spent weeks, maybe months replacing all the thermometers on all 36 guns in the brigade. Lesson learned, don't let a round sit in a warm or hot tube, if you do, ram the round back out once it has cooled and consider it a dud. Call EOD and have them get rid of it. Ultimately it was a combination of crew error and a faulty thermometer.

    • @DevilducV4
      @DevilducV4 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Great video by the way, very thorough information. Excellent footage of those night rounds too.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Thanks for sharing. It was interesting to read.

    • @wacojones8062
      @wacojones8062 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I trained 19D scouts as a member of a Army Reserve training BN. One night at Ft. Knox we had multiple warped barrels on the Browning M2 50 caliber MG Active Duty officer failed to provide spare barrels. 2 Active-duty NCO were injured on the M60's MG from cook-offs trying to clear jams the barrels were red from the heat.

  • @mortoopz
    @mortoopz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    12:55 Nope, Circular Error Probable (CEP) is the area where 50% of rounds will land, you can't just say a round 'could land up to 95m away', because half of them will be further than that.
    ... Mind you: Western military numbers are always what we admit to, the actual capability is usually considerably better.... so those rounds from western artillery would probably have about 90% inside the published CEP area.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Ah thanks for that 👍🏼

    • @Xepent
      @Xepent 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NotWhatYouThink yeah its nearly impossible to get the truthful numbers out of nato equipment

    • @soupcangaming662
      @soupcangaming662 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Xepent every military, paramilitary, and other combat groups ever. knowing your enemy wins wars. you never give the knowledge for them

  • @opticFPV
    @opticFPV 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This video was what finally convinced me to subscribe after a few years of seeing your videos pop up in my feed here and there. Very cool to see this sort of "boots on the ground" investigative reporting!

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey! Welcome aboard!
      We got 3-4 other boots-on-the-ground videos if you haven’t checked them out yet!

  • @JPMediaProductions
    @JPMediaProductions 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Wow! This is such an amazing video and the behind the scenes info. NWYT production just keeps getting better and better 😊

  • @CH-tp4wz
    @CH-tp4wz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I watched a lot of content about military equipment (I've never been in the military)
    And I've never heard of them checking the temperature of the propellant or temperature of the gun effecting the aim.
    Very good content especially when I learned something new.
    Great channel.

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Even in competitive/long range (1000 yds +) rifle shooting, we adjust our powder charge for higher/lower temps in winter/summer.
      Some powders are more sensitive to this then others, but in general for a .308 winchester it can be half or even a full grain more powder if it gets to freezing weather. vs hot summers

  • @aviator2252
    @aviator2252 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    videos like this make me want my old job back, thanks

  • @chrisjameswarren88
    @chrisjameswarren88 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Fantastic video! Really great to see you on the ground, so to speak. If this is a taster of some more to come, we are all in for a huge treat in the coming years! Great work!

  • @erikjahay1633
    @erikjahay1633 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love this video. The fact you actually went out with the Marines and recorded your own videos made this amazing

  • @purplfedora800
    @purplfedora800 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    4:36 I know that the gun was most definitely unloaded and a long way away from being able to fire, but NWYT crouching directly in front of the muzzle (and looking into it) made my heart skip a beat.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      🥹

    • @jimijenkins2548
      @jimijenkins2548 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Reminds me of when a family member wanted me to see his handgun's rifling. I know it's unloaded, I emptied the chamber myself, but I told him I should be uncomfortable looking down a weapon's barrel. He relented after hearing that out loud.

  • @Skieth
    @Skieth 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When i was a kid, I grew up eight next to that base. We could see the parachute flares and feel the artillery going off and impacting. It was always amazing watching the ospreys fly over at night with their green tip blades.

  • @samuelheino5448
    @samuelheino5448 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    At 193 decibels the air can no longer support soundwaves, and it becomes a shockwave instead.

    • @oml81mm
      @oml81mm 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      A shock wave is a pressure wave that travels faster than the speed of sound.

  • @hughesis
    @hughesis 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I was in the Marines from 2011 to 2015. I was stationed in Hawaii with 1/12 Alpha as a 0621 (combat radio operator). I got to go over to 29 palms and it was actually really fun to see and experience night shootings, especially on the last training night as everyone converged on one target area. being apart of an artillery battery we were stationed further back and got to see everything from the infantry, air support, HIMARS, and tanks. I still have video i took through my NVG's, and let me tell you it was a great experience.
    Granted the stuff you see is the more exciting parts. a good portion of our training was to shoot, move and communicate and a whole lot of hurry up and wait. I did get the opportunity to pull the lanyard and help on a gun, and my initiation for being on the gun was to take the fired casing and taking a shot of swab water. Overall it was a great experience I had being able to serve in the Corps with my brothers, time sure flies.

  • @Ozasuke
    @Ozasuke 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    It's not a party without the arty!

  • @cbleman
    @cbleman 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    A swollen round is a real PITA during live fire for sure. did that once and it's one of those pucker moments you never forget

    • @cgyygc5433
      @cgyygc5433 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if its swollen how do you even chamber the thing? Did you just brute force it and hope it didn't blow

    • @Wabbaaajack
      @Wabbaaajack 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cgyygc5433The tube is much hotter than the outside air. So when the round is loaded, the hot tube will heat up the round. On the M119, where the 105mm rounds are semi-fixed and loaded with the round itself, the hot tube can actually prematurely ignite the powder and cause the round to fire without pulling the firing lever

    • @cgyygc5433
      @cgyygc5433 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Wabbaaajack yeah yeah whatever, I'm well aware that rounds can cook off on their own when the weapon gets hot enough, and I didn't ask about it. Is swollen another term for cook-off that I just don't know, or does the original comment mean literally swollen. Cause if the round is literally swollen and larger than it's supposed to be, how the hell does it even get chambered???

    • @Wabbaaajack
      @Wabbaaajack 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cgyygc5433 The first statement explained it. The tube is hotter than the outside air. The copper expands in the tube because it’s hotter. I thought you would be able to read in between the lines because it was kind of explained in the video, but apparently that was too big of an ask.

    • @ArchangelExile
      @ArchangelExile 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fight! Fight! Fight!

  • @stephenlequier9663
    @stephenlequier9663 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I watch your work on a regular basis and I have to say this was one of your best. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @paulstan2449
    @paulstan2449 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very nice! Best “walk thru” I’ve seen in a long time.

  • @DrakeingNbakeing
    @DrakeingNbakeing 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Bro called an illumination shell a parachute with a candle😂😂😂

  • @RvnKnight
    @RvnKnight 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I was FDC when I was still in the Army; primarily the MLRS but I could also do calculations of certain munitions for tubes too (Copperhead and Excalibur). One of the most amazing sights I ever saw was watching a battery live fire at night. 6 MLRS firing in sequence, a full 12 -pack each. All RRPRs (training rounds), but still a crazy sight to be hold.

    • @45CaliberCure
      @45CaliberCure 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That must have been cool as hell! Loved seeing the Gulf War footage of their firing, back in the day.

    • @fotisvon9943
      @fotisvon9943 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      was it still each rocket had its own target number for all those rounds?

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Back in the 1990s, the Hector Mines earthquake was centered in that firing range. When scientist came to take their measurements, they needed an escort, to avoid any unexploded duds.

  • @Masterhitman935
    @Masterhitman935 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I am shock and surprise on the level of detail and information present. Thank you!!!

  • @NotWhatYouThink
    @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +101

    Who caught the (kinda) face reveal? 😜
    Edit: it's not 0:34, 4:36 or 7:10 🤓
    I'm actually facing the camera ...

    • @Captain_Kattel
      @Captain_Kattel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Currently nobody

    • @RealFluse
      @RealFluse 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Plot twist he was on advance party trying not to runover a desert tortoise lol

    • @Moonlite-vo2sv
      @Moonlite-vo2sv 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LOL I think i found it!!! Let's just say it's in the first half 😎

    • @FactBits361
      @FactBits361 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      its soo cool you get to out with them and see this stuff first hand

    • @عبدالله-ك9ر2ي
      @عبدالله-ك9ر2ي 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We want to provide Arabic voice translation.
      Following you from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦.

  • @robertfindley921
    @robertfindley921 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Excellent video. Tons of information. I'm not at all surprised it's complex. Using a giant wet swab to ensure there are no hot embers has been done for hundreds of years.

  • @stunitech
    @stunitech 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've never had the dubious pleasure of lugging around 155mm shells but I did once get the opportunity to be "volunteered" to move some ammo boxes for an L118 (105mm). The ammo comes in boxes of 2 rounds and they are HEAVY. I can only imagine that the extra 50mm and round length add to the joy of manual logistics in a role like this.
    The L118 also sits on this big metal disk that allows the gun to be easily rotated even on crappy terrain. That thing is bloody heavy too.
    From a reserve infantryman who got stuck with some artillery creatures one exercise...

  • @AbrAhAdAbrA-111
    @AbrAhAdAbrA-111 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The night shots are impressive

  • @samuelmendoza9356
    @samuelmendoza9356 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    10:05 , I am curious, how formidable are this Pringles? Do they load it with the can full?

  • @aareview8258
    @aareview8258 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    29 Palms has the best seats to star gaze. It's super quiet too and running the hills at the back end was one of my favorite experiences. Really miss some moments I've had there.

  • @Cerulium
    @Cerulium 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    10:51 That time fuse look SO cool

    • @steventhehistorian
      @steventhehistorian 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It looks like an action movie prop trying too hard to look like a time fuse lol

  • @coolbreeze6198
    @coolbreeze6198 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That thing broke my back/body for life !!! Pumping it up, picking up the trail arms and then luggin those heavy ass rounds !!! Glad i served but it took a toll 👍

  • @karstenbley4608
    @karstenbley4608 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Now we need wren from corridoor digital shooting a 360° camera with this gun

    • @wolfsagegaming1336
      @wolfsagegaming1336 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Personally i was thinking of ballistic high speed catching the round exiting at 150k fps

  • @tommyjenkins7453
    @tommyjenkins7453 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Being an Air Force vet i enjoyed this video and learned a thing or two

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    us has been stockpiling pgk fuses which have built in gyroscopes and an altenator power supply which very cheaply turns dumb rounds into excaliber round accuracy. they say50 meter 50% error accuracy but in practice its much less. the fuses only cost around 2-5k, and the usa purposefully didnt send any to ukraine coz theyre likely going to be the main round used by the usa. everyone talks about the costs of excalibur but theyre an old tech which is like milk and expires. very interesting decision, theyre like the glide kits for dumb bombs and actually increase range by changing angle of attack during flight multiple times. very smart compared to how complicated rocket rounds are

    • @guyyefet5804
      @guyyefet5804 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think that the excalibur round turn out to be a complete flop in Ukraine. It said that in a EW contested area, the hit rate going down to 5%!
      Intresngly the GMLRS doesn't have this issue, even that it also uses GPS.

    • @vevenaneathna
      @vevenaneathna 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@guyyefet5804 idk you saw m777's first show up without gps guidance kits and only got them a few weeks later. US obviously hesitant to give ukraine their best tech. I suspect excalibur rounds sent to ukraine were not using all the possible back up inertial guidance/ew evasion strategies. pretty much confirmed that US is kneecapping a lot of long range arms sent to ukraine to avoid cross boarder use. I also suspect that m777's barrels are getting worn out. US sent m777's to get rid of them, not to support them. i think usa was surprised at how long m777's have lasted, just like himars. guessing GMLRS does have inertia guidance backup. we saw how accurate they were when stacking dimes on kherson Antonivka bridge despite RU putting up a good effort to degrade them. rocket barrels dont really wear out like artillery barrels do. excalibur can only course correct so much.

  • @richardnoah2922
    @richardnoah2922 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My dad was an artillery repair technician with the 25th infantry and he loved when they would let him fire the 105’s

  • @Jakob_DK
    @Jakob_DK 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Counter battery fire and drones are a challenge in Ukraine. They have to move quickly after firing the first shot and soon after arriving.
    Shooting while moving seems to become necessary.
    I realize the M777 has advanced like airlift and movement by helicopter

    • @HenriBourjade
      @HenriBourjade 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Compare to the Caesar. The CAESAR benefits from an automatic pointing calculation, fires quickly and is already gone elsewhere when the six shells fired hit their target 25 to 35 miles away.

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting video, I've been subscribed to your channel for 4-5 years, and enjoy the content, thank you Sir. 👍🇺🇲

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! We started just over 4 years ago.

  • @geronimo5537
    @geronimo5537 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Finally this channel puts out a good video that isnt just fluff

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Thanks! I recommend you watch our video about USS New York, if you haven't watched it yet.
      It's titled "3 Nights Onboard US Navy's Largest Stealth Ship"

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@NotWhatYouThink I have been watching this channel for some years now. I really like the improved direction. Credit earned where credit is due. Top tier channel again.

  • @wademichalski768
    @wademichalski768 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The direct fire at night might be the most epic thing Ive ever seen. Its cool seeing the shell explode in the same frame.

  • @bigmock141
    @bigmock141 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    @3:43 self propelled gun to another level

    • @jasont587
      @jasont587 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They are a maintenance nightmare

    • @herptek
      @herptek 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jasont587You may have missed the joke.

    • @HenriBourjade
      @HenriBourjade 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The CAESAR benefits from an automatic pointing calculation, fires quickly and is already gone elsewhere when the six shells fired hit their target 25 to 35 miles away.

  • @davidtverberg2606
    @davidtverberg2606 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks!

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks very much for your support!

  • @Ramash440
    @Ramash440 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Commenting my theory before watching to see if it really isn't what I think: hotter air is less dense and thus provides less resistance than colder air at night.

    • @pyro1047
      @pyro1047 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I haven't gotten to whatever part he mentions it, but my guess is it's actually going to be the temperature of the ammunitions propellant.
      Most people don't think of it, but it actually has a HUGE impact on performance from something as big as a Battleships 16" guns to ad small as a 5.56 Carbine. As an example, one powder magazine being hotter than the others (Usually turns out to be whichever one is closest to the engine rooms) can make its turrets guns overshoot by miles compared to the rest when fired in a Salvo or Broadside. Similarly, gas operated firearms usually have adjustable gas systems and in extreme cold conditions need to be set higher allowing more gas into the system to fully cycle the bolt/bolt carrier otherwise they'll need to be manually cycled every round or two.

    • @oml81mm
      @oml81mm 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Both air temperature and humidity will have an effect.

  • @maccollo
    @maccollo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "The farther the target, the longer the round has to travel to get to it"
    Big brain take

  • @warpdriveby
    @warpdriveby 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Off the top of my head, two things: the rative drop in air temperature between day and night means air is typically denser at night which would slow a shell faster. The second is that the sun in daytime causes more rapid evapation of water from anything on the ground raising humidity FURTHER thinning the air. Jets take far longer to take off in summer, but more importantly far longer to STOP when landing and this seems to be related.

    • @jasont587
      @jasont587 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Changes in temperature and air density would be accounted for with a thing called a met. When I was in they used a device strapped to a balloon and measured everything about every 4 hours in training, more often in combat zones.

  • @divisionic
    @divisionic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    5:50 - The most important cargo next to artillery rounds and ammunition:
    **Pringles**

  • @TheAmerican1963
    @TheAmerican1963 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As a US Marine Grunt in the early '80's, they came up with the stupid idea of "cross training" us with arty units. I was assigned to a gun, an M198 at the time, called "Luciphers Hammer". It scared the hell out of me !!!!! LOL 🙂

  • @Musty_Moth
    @Musty_Moth 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The dude using the Pelton's at 1:36 supervising the dude using the hammer is killing me, I'm just watching it on loop

    • @magellanicraincloud
      @magellanicraincloud 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can't believe I scrolled for ages and yours is the only comment I can see mentioning the marine failing to hit the post twice... no wonder it needs a steel handle, he's the guy turning all the timber handles into splinters!

  • @katanaridingremy
    @katanaridingremy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really awesome and informative video, thanks to all the soldiers who serve.
    Should be noted that studies are being done that show artillery staff are suffering long term brain damage from exposure to shockwaves from the blast, not unlike the CTE footballers are being shown to have

  • @OffensiveProduction1
    @OffensiveProduction1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, I still can never get over how crazy the night sky in the desert looks.

  • @guarami1
    @guarami1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    WOOT, I've been waiting for a reveal!!!
    4:36
    7:10
    Rainbolt could find you in 3 minutes. 😯

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Sorry, but those are not it. The one I'm talking about is from the front, not the side!

    • @guarami1
      @guarami1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ He could still find you.
      I’ll watch it again just for the game.

  • @markotts
    @markotts 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best video I've seen on YT in a long while.

  • @m4rvinmartian
    @m4rvinmartian 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    *15:50** No, that's De-Mil or Decommission process using a specially made thermite detonator.*

  • @stevedaenginerd
    @stevedaenginerd 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well, that's my back yard! Almost literally! Lol The "container City" is only about 10 miles from my house!
    Wish I knew you were going to be around, I'd love to buy you a drink or something! Thanks for always having great content for us!

  • @JbeySaros
    @JbeySaros 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Really cool vidéo !

  • @pratyaypaul8390
    @pratyaypaul8390 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    3:23 "four point two tons"
    The marines rotating the thing by picking up the front muzzle brake: Try harder bro😂

  • @기드욘
    @기드욘 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    As the temperature drops, the air density increases and drag increases.

    • @purdysanchez
      @purdysanchez 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That's true. But surely they use barometers in ballistic calculations. The propellant density was the "not what you think" part for me.

    • @ServoCision
      @ServoCision 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes but burn rate due to propellant temp effects the FPS more in this case

    • @Xepent
      @Xepent 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ServoCision or moisture and elevation

  • @gregparrott
    @gregparrott 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video. Thanks for posting. Also, thanks to the Marines who made this possible

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    6:54 There's a lot of unexploded ordinance in basically every other desert in the world. No no. The only thing that would make a desert even more dangerous would be if it was heavily irradiated. And that's why the deserts of Nevada and Utah are the deadliest deserts in the world. Because they have both unexploded ordinance and residual radiation from nuclear weapon tests.

  • @jesuslovesyoujohn314-21
    @jesuslovesyoujohn314-21 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was really well produced, goodjob!

  • @Bravo_Kilo_Kilo
    @Bravo_Kilo_Kilo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    King Of Battle. Never gets old.

    • @EchO-8
      @EchO-8 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      OoRaah 1/12 1999-2002, 2006-2009, & TFMP/OIF

    • @HenriBourjade
      @HenriBourjade 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The CAESAR benefits from an automatic pointing calculation, fires quickly and is already gone elsewhere when the six shells fired hit their target 25 to 35 miles away.

  • @lukefriesenhahn8186
    @lukefriesenhahn8186 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Artillery has gotten crazy advanced. It's cool that they have it down to a science.

  • @Flash1857
    @Flash1857 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Never thought of the round traveling less at night, but am guessing it’s because the air being cooler at night is denser. That denc3 air offers more resistance to the shell, will now watch the video. Wow I learned something

  • @lonzo61
    @lonzo61 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I trained at 29 Palms twice: once as an 81mm mortar man, and the second time as a grunt. What fun it was.

  • @rogerbrandt6678
    @rogerbrandt6678 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’d love to see the lines holding the howitzer be solid 2:26 here and they fire a shot at 8000’.

  • @Adam.NavyVet
    @Adam.NavyVet 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great and informative video. Not boring in the least. Thanks

  • @carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643
    @carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I understand the logic behind using a stick battery for the 'peltons', it simplifies logistic and they can be found anywhere, but it still makes it look so jank.

  • @christianboutonnet1381
    @christianboutonnet1381 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Merci de ces explications, car je ne savais pas que c'était si complexe.

  • @vonzigle
    @vonzigle 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The air is probably denser at night because it’s usually colder….

    • @eedobee
      @eedobee 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s what he said.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@eedobee So it was exactly what I thought it was...

  • @Jolli_-is7oo
    @Jolli_-is7oo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is an ultimate sponsorship for the M-777

  • @The_otschi
    @The_otschi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    the company producing the electronic hearing protection is called Peltor not pelton

    • @eridean_nokodal
      @eridean_nokodal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Peltor is the brand, the manufacturer is 3M

    • @ARF442nd
      @ARF442nd 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@eridean_nokodal You mean to tell me the manufacturer who makes the tape I used in school makes hearing protection for arty crews?
      God bless the US Military Industrial complex.

    • @KaufDirGeld
      @KaufDirGeld 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you dont want to know what the calculator guys make ​@@ARF442nd

    • @eridean_nokodal
      @eridean_nokodal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ARF442nd Yeah, 3M makes all sorts of things, they have like 50.000 different products

  • @SpiritdragonR
    @SpiritdragonR 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this video and the long format is really neat :)

  • @kj55
    @kj55 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    My ex-wife did this in the army she's deaf now hearing aids both ears

  • @GeneralAllenby4Aqaba
    @GeneralAllenby4Aqaba 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So cool you got to hang out with some Marines shooting big guns.

  • @firefox0884
    @firefox0884 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Peltor

  • @ChadAF_YT
    @ChadAF_YT 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your title got me man, hook line and sinker.

  • @frankcessna7345
    @frankcessna7345 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video!!! Well documented and professional delivered.

  • @Alex-k1j8t
    @Alex-k1j8t 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful footage at night. That's a view you'd never want to miss

  • @rickgaston7118
    @rickgaston7118 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome , very informative

  • @AxelTheNorth
    @AxelTheNorth 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are breathetaking! I am so glad that you have the opportunity to participate in real teachings!

  • @Erebusdidnothingwrongish
    @Erebusdidnothingwrongish 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Those fjatrs really light the night up super cool dude. You are lucky to get to see and experience that. Can you still hear?

  • @HeyHax
    @HeyHax 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember one time an arty unit attached to us in Darwin and Hokkaido. And let me tell you, Arty knows how to party. Fondest memory was during sunset seeing red phosphorus and the sun in the distance with the outback was a surreal experience. Pretty sure they lit half of the outback on fire.

  • @zodiacr
    @zodiacr 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great episode, amazing adventure! Best of luck! Thanks.

  • @TheDavischandler
    @TheDavischandler 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great footage mate prob ur best vid yet

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks! The night footage specially was really cool.

  • @RinceCochon
    @RinceCochon 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    14:25 You recorded a shooting star in the background :D

  • @spacecowboy2483
    @spacecowboy2483 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome production!

  • @Wes-x9p
    @Wes-x9p 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have seen all of this, I was an ammunition technician(2311) in the USMC 1968 to 1972 Vietnam
    The post are AIMING posts, this is how the gnn is aimed.
    White phosphorus is for spotting.

  • @Dumplingu
    @Dumplingu 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video, I'm gonna send this to my buddies who were in the army's artillery corps and see if they get nostalgic