The only simulator that convinces me on flight physics. Truly remarkable to see how passionate you are towards improving our flight simming experience Austin!
I was really fascinated by this comparison. I still remember simple Flight Simulator on my first computer Sinclair ZX81. It was forty years ago. And now I can fly using new X-Plane 12. I already installed free version and after I clean disks on my notebook, I purchase full version. I am really very looking forward to my simulated flights!
I too stared on the Sinclair, then eventually a PC, then thru various turbo-props to a Boeing 757 in real life. Sometimes dreams do come true. Retired now so X-plane is the only flying I do now.
if the point of this video is to show that X-Plane is inexplicably dark then it succeeded. its like watching everything through very strong sun glasses.
The reason why I only use X Plane to rehearse a real world XC flight before doing it for real. Another reason is that Sky Demon behaves exactly the same in the real world. Keep on keepin' it real Austin!
Congratulations Man For me you are the best !! 74 years and i Fly Whis your simulator !!! Now i will buy XP12 it is too beautiful thanks you cordially. James
I always liked how the scenery looks rich on xplane. Msfs looks more like the real thing but is washed out over a certain altitude. You can tweak anything and everything to try to get it better but nothing makes it look like I wish it did. I love weather and haze but also wish I could clear the weather and it would look beautiful as far as the eye can see more like fsx did.
A good sign of authenticity is when you have to look twice or three times to see which is the sim and which is the real thing. XP passes with flying colours.
You a much smoother pilot than your black box indicates sir. Looks like XPlane could be a little less shy on the atmospheric haze/scattering. Love your product! Can’t wait to see how much better it gets over the years ❤
What's next? Hopefully better xp12 PCVR performance and clarity, lol! I love your vids mate. Best Xmas cheers and I'm looking forward to a happy 2023 with lots more xp12 updates.
Goes to show that sunlight is not properly simulated in Xplane 12. I mean the light values are correct but the light isn't actually being absorbed by the ground and bouncing back hence making it very dark. Global illumination needs work.
Related to some other comments, it would be nice to have the ability to decrease the contrast between the panel and the outside. Our eyes adjust more than XP shows and there are many times where the panel's just too dark to see. In some cases, you can use a flood/map light (or virtual flashlight) but not always, and it's obviously essential to be able to see all knobs/switches/etc., regardless of the ambient lighting. Re the video--thanks for the time/effort/Jet-A, Austin (I know--any excuse to get up there)! I'd just add that I'd rather hear the actual v. XP sounds (at normal speed, of course) rather than the EDM. Also, NBD, but maybe try adjusting your video frame rate next time to avoid the rolling shutter (even Scimitars aren't that curved!)...
quite some differences, from flight vector and some of the dynamics, down to graphic issues like the prop.png or low quality map. i am a bit confused right now, if this is supposed to prove the sim's accuracy.
The purpose is to show one compared to the other... just scientific display of data. Draw your own conclusions! I happen to think our aircraft cockpit and rendering and liting are amaze-balls, the scenery is a bit generic still. Anyway that's my opinion.
@@austinmeyer not a criticism, just thought it would even get closer to one another. you've done a marvellous job but let's wait another bit for that amaze-ball-party. thanks a lot for sharing.
Just curious. Is the higher contrast and lower exposure in the simulator due to limitations of the camera used in your capture? Or is it more aeesthetic? Or perhaps because of the canopy?
Yes, interesting question, asked that myself too. I think the camera footage is a bit overexposed. To say what would be "real" is hard to say ofc, because monitors and perception probably varies a lot. Also when looking at a monitor, we probably compare it to what we are used to see there, which usually is something filmed by a camera. And I think XP12 tries to simulate what it looks like to the eye, not to a camera, which is the right decision imho. For my personal feeling or taste, XP12 now seems a little underexposed. (I liked the "nuclear sun" of early betas, btw., felt somewhat real to me.) Maybe an exposure slider would be something to consider? To be able to adopt to the used monitor and personal preference/perception.
You can see that the camera is setup for a higher exposure. Austins Hands and sometimes the Panel is overexposed. The virtual camera is likely operating in a realm where we don't get any overexposure which is my preference too.
Terrific. Biggest surprise was how closely the cockpit shadows matched reality. Haze at altitude might need to be dialed up a bit, but I'm not complaining. I bought XPlane for the superior flight model -- not sightseeing.
Graphically this looks amazing. Though I dont think it showcases the flight dynamics in this? The sim airplanes seems to snap into the positions from the replay, which doesn't look very realistic...
I wonder if Austin can do a deal with Working Title to do a version of G1000 avionics for X-Plane 12 ? As it more closely the real world G1000 in this aircraft.
Working title were brought in house to msfs so legally speaking their development is property of msfs but there are plenty of people able to do a G1000nxi in fact I know of one being done but I can’t say any more on that front. There’s also word that a very clever young lady is messing with a G3000 but I don’t know anymore on that front other than rumours
what if instead of comparing the visuals, you compared the physics by recording all the inputs, then doing a flight in x-plane using those inputs to see if you end up in the same place.
I don’t think so because when he took off you’re able to see the exact opposite thing happen where the plane raised up in altitude suddenly. I suspect that he imported some sort of positioning record from his real flight into the flight simulator for it to replicate so that all of the movements and timing would be the same. That’s the only way it makes sense to me since everything was perfectly matched on both sides which would literally be impossible no matter how hard you try.
We can see so much different because of not proper sun light and ground In different season we can see different ground Life in rain we see grass grounds And in summer we see dust and not grass like desert 🏜 no grass And in winter only snow
What are the inputs to the sim ? I suppose that you had to set the position and attitude from times to time otherwise a drift would led to an offset of the position and attitude of the aircraft.
He made a video about just this topic 3 weeks ago actually, it's called "x-plane did whaaa??" where he analyzed this effect using the in-game debug graphics
The plane looks awesome, even the shadows look the same for the most part, but the scenery only looks similar in the broadest of terms. That would be the thing that needs an upgrade next. Have you made that call with Google yet? :)
I doubt thát thát will happen, however, it might be possible for us to create it on a private basis, if we create a payware where people can upload colour-corrected ortho, and where the payment goes to Google and Bing and whaever, shared between them in the ratio that the authors report their image-sources to be....??? - Thát way we won't have to create all our ortho ourselves (which IS a bit of a job, I have for instance never gotten to thát point), like Laminar won't have the trouble (< just checking the ortho for clouds and flat parked cars is a major job, and correcting the flaws even more...).
This is probably a stupid question but are the graphics on the plane screens trademarked or copyrighted? The real plane had green grass and blue sky while the game had brown and blue.
The real plane has synthetic vision.. we just have not had time to code that yet in the simulator. We will, it's just a matter of TIME, like everything.
No, not in the foreseeable future. They don't have the budget Microsoft have to enable cloud gaming and downloading the whole world on your computer to an acceptable resolution would be hundreds of TB. But if you want to download satellite imagery you can do so by using ortho as soon as they release a stable version for xp12.
Differences and Questions: Is the flight scripted. It looks as if the plane is on rails while taxying and starting. And while landing there are this steps, as if the plane is staling ... ? The view is wider on the left, because of the gopro fishy lens? From minute 3:05 there is a whole pond/puddle missing in X-Plane and the water tower while landing.
X-Plane should have more to show for all the years it's been out. I haven't seen a huge difference between 11 and 12. Just my two cents. Landscape and cloud formations look so dated.
Austin, please, for the love of all things aviation, please fix the cockpit lighting in XP12. Every cockpit under every lighting condition is way too dark. There are hundreds of forum posts about this issue and XP12 has been out for a while now, but still no fix. And to make matters worse, XP12 has no brightness or gamma control options. The cockpit should not be barely visible during daylight conditions. It was fine in XP11 but is seriously broken in XP12.
Ever see how green everything is in MSFS 2020? At least there are seasons in XP12. Other environmental factors like droughts would be cool to simulate as well, but need a reliable way of reporting that to the sim.
The program that recorded their real flight stopped recording for a second, then started recording once on the ground again. This is Xavions fault, nothing to do with x-plane
Es ist ein Replay der Flugdaten, die Austin beim echten Flug aufgezeichnet hat. Die Position des Flugzeugs wurde dabei per GPS aufgezeichnet. GPS-Koordinaten haben eine maximale Genauigkeit von etwa 4m (oft auch ungenauer) und schwanken deshalb oft um einige Meter hin und her. Wenn man im Simulator fliegt (oder einen Simulator-Flug im Replay anschaut) passiert das natürlich nicht. Die Flugphysik von XP12 ist extrem gut.
It is in 12.00 already. Though there is a bug atm, where real weather is totally off sometimes. Also, when you start a flight in winter/snowy conditions, it usually has no snow on the ground, you have to wait for snow to accumulate and then the scenery gradually will get snow cover. Both are known issues and are worked on already.
@@jorn-jorenjorenson5028 That's what I'm talking about. In central Europe, the snow is up to the neck. But in the simulator, I have never seen this. Unless you turn on the snow manually.
So unrealistic. The one on the right had no pilot! Seriously though. Very well done guys. X-Plane is looking mighty impressive. Just need tweak a few things and improve the performance. Even top-end hardware struggles. Especially with multiple monitors.
Jesus some of these comments 🤬 *Why’s the plane sliding about on the runway and taxi way that’s not real* That’s because of the wonderful accuracy of GPS and the real time delay. If you gonna comment try research it before hand most GPS units will tell you the accuracy it is normally +/- 1m and the real time delay. *The prop isn’t accurate* 🤦🏼♂️ read up on camera frame rate. The prop in XP is how a prop looks to the human eye in the real world. Cmon folks even if you don’t know because you’ve never seen it first hand there’s literally an whole world of information and data at your fingers tip. FML I had to travel 6 miles to the local library to read up on this shit whilst studying electrical engineering and undertaking my Photography exams. There’s no real excuse. Cockpit lighting does need some work though. It’s not easy to replicate the 1000s of adjustments the human eye makes in a second or two in any sim.
Not sure what to think about this. The inputs (throttle/flaps/...) do not seem to be changing in XP. Is XP playing back a GPS capture or is it modeling the flight in real time? Sorry, not a pilot or sim pilot.
I love the reality of the scenery in xplane, but the airplane performance always seems to be much more unstable than a real aircraft. Unless you're using the autopilot, you're constantly fighting to keep the aircraft upright. I know the controls can be tweaked but I've never had much luck doing that. For some reason, in the new xplane 12 version, aircraft all want to pull hard to the left, even without a lot of throttle.
Torque, weight, speed etc. Just pause and imagine what you are doing here for a moment. You are trying to simulate real life behavior but you can only to that to a certain extent. The plane probably act like it should in the sim, but you as a person are limited in several ways in front of your computer. You don't get the vibrations, you don't feel how things move, you completely lack the sense of depth and the sense of speed is limited. Just adding a pair of VR googles make the experience so much better and easier to control. I find trimming a small plane quite hard using the monitor but it's way much easier in VR when you have a much better awareness of your vertical direction. One of the biggest beginner faults is that you over control. Be more gentle and look further down the rw and things will become easier with some practice.
Very interesting, not the least in terms of exposing the differences between x-plane and reality, don't get me wrong, I love x-plane and always have, and always will, but I have always felt that it was way too lively on the taxiways and at take-off, like I have always felt that houses and roads (and rivers) always have stood out too much, and this video does confirm both (< houses etc at for instance at 3:05). - The great thing about it is that toning down the drawing of the houses/roads etc, most likely will mean a performance relief/increase, or it can be changed to draw things like bushes and shrub in the gardens, rather than super-sharp houses and not the least pavements....??? ;- ) And that x-plane is too lively on the taxi- and runways, might be something about the friction between tyre and astphalt, and too short latency, which it might be relatively easy to correct for....???
Not good at all I don't know if people in the comment watched the same video that I just watched, the graphics sucks, the readings of instruments are not accurate and don't match the real thing , physics X-plane one is flying on rails while there's some shaking in real life , I'm sure Msfs would've done far better job on this comparison.
The be fair the plane in the sim didn't fly at all. It just followed the recorded path from Xavion. I wish the FS community were a bit more mature than what you show of here Alton @alton4357 .
You never see the blades of a spinning prop in real life. Only a camera sees them (because of the shutter speed). X-Plane simulates what your eyes see, not a camera. For the same reason there are no lens flares and such effects.
It is playing back the GPS coordinates of the plane recorded in the real flight. GPS coordinates are not exact at all, that's why the glitching. Of that does not happen when flying in the sim or playing back a sim flight.
sim is way too dark compared to the video. Ok, it is a camera, not the eyes, but still, what i see on a video side is more relevant to what i see with my eyes in terms of exposure. No clouds to compare. In terms of ground scenery, i don't know, if this video advertise XP12 or doing opposite. I'm an avid fan of XP since yearly XP10, but now the picture of MSFS outweights XP's superior flight model. Addon aircrafts for MSFS getting better and better. But still, when you hand fly anything from 737 to a Kodiak, i like how it feels in XP better.
Look at the sun, shining into the cockpit and onto the panel. Almost identical to the real life comparison. Simply amazing! Great job, well done!
The only simulator that convinces me on flight physics. Truly remarkable to see how passionate you are towards improving our flight simming experience Austin!
Indeed incredible how a team of a few people produce a sim which can compete with one made by a multi-billion dollar company.
@@Flexflex744 delusions
Dcs world is supposedly pretty good with physics too
@@ian_lewono dcs is amazing, we use it in the usaf for actual sim flight hours
@@datutturugang666 I've also heard that as well
Wow, that was an awesome comparison. I am loving x-plane 12!
I was really fascinated by this comparison. I still remember simple Flight Simulator on my first computer Sinclair ZX81. It was forty years ago. And now I can fly using new X-Plane 12. I already installed free version and after I clean disks on my notebook, I purchase full version. I am really very looking forward to my simulated flights!
Great memories with FS on Sinclair ZX81 my friend!!
I too stared on the Sinclair, then eventually a PC, then thru various turbo-props to a Boeing 757 in real life. Sometimes dreams do come true. Retired now so X-plane is the only flying I do now.
if the point of this video is to show that X-Plane is inexplicably dark then it succeeded. its like watching everything through very strong sun glasses.
The reason why I only use X Plane to rehearse a real world XC flight before doing it for real. Another reason is that Sky Demon behaves exactly the same in the real world. Keep on keepin' it real Austin!
Congratulations Man
For me you are the best !!
74 years and i Fly Whis your simulator !!! Now i will buy XP12 it is too beautiful thanks you cordially. James
Xplane look nice but dark
Improve sun light reflection in water and house and make weather foge to look real
I always liked how the scenery looks rich on xplane. Msfs looks more like the real thing but is washed out over a certain altitude. You can tweak anything and everything to try to get it better but nothing makes it look like I wish it did. I love weather and haze but also wish I could clear the weather and it would look beautiful as far as the eye can see more like fsx did.
Microsoft Flight Simulator is quite simply a better product from an objective standpoint.
A good sign of authenticity is when you have to look twice or three times to see which is the sim and which is the real thing.
XP passes with flying colours.
Stop lying to yourself.... the right side is obviously the sim and is very apparent throughout this video
You can't be serious.
@@ftd1949 people are that stupid.
@@ftd1949 he must be color blind...
fan boy alert
the taxi playback looks like it's on rails, oddly sliding left and right to try and get to the right spot rather than being grounded at the wheels
Fantastic simulator! I Just please fix the cockpit lighting issue, it's often too dark even in broad daylight
The world of the X-Plane is far more beautiful than it is in reality, and it's true flight. Thanks Laminar Research😀
Those were my first words too, That was cool !!! Cheers Austin n Team! !
You a much smoother pilot than your black box indicates sir. Looks like XPlane could be a little less shy on the atmospheric haze/scattering. Love your product! Can’t wait to see how much better it gets over the years ❤
What's next? Hopefully better xp12 PCVR performance and clarity, lol! I love your vids mate. Best Xmas cheers and I'm looking forward to a happy 2023 with lots more xp12 updates.
I noticed the engine instruments didn't seem to match the real world readings.
probably just excluded from the "black box" and xplane just makes a educated guess
The Ng and ITT were way off. Also, the MFD map in XP12 could use an overhaul. Nevertheless, XP is, and will continue to be, my SOC (sim of choice).
@@VirtualAviationAviator The phone did not record the engine instruments... this was a replay from the phone...
Would be good to see the sun-visor vibrating when 'rolling' like the real AC. Fantastic though all the same.
Goes to show that sunlight is not properly simulated in Xplane 12. I mean the light values are correct but the light isn't actually being absorbed by the ground and bouncing back hence making it very dark. Global illumination needs work.
Related to some other comments, it would be nice to have the ability to decrease the contrast between the panel and the outside. Our eyes adjust more than XP shows and there are many times where the panel's just too dark to see. In some cases, you can use a flood/map light (or virtual flashlight) but not always, and it's obviously essential to be able to see all knobs/switches/etc., regardless of the ambient lighting.
Re the video--thanks for the time/effort/Jet-A, Austin (I know--any excuse to get up there)! I'd just add that I'd rather hear the actual v. XP sounds (at normal speed, of course) rather than the EDM. Also, NBD, but maybe try adjusting your video frame rate next time to avoid the rolling shutter (even Scimitars aren't that curved!)...
quite some differences, from flight vector and some of the dynamics, down to graphic issues like the prop.png or low quality map. i am a bit confused right now, if this is supposed to prove the sim's accuracy.
It's just meant to show the feature, although the black box was a bit glitchy
The purpose is to show one compared to the other... just scientific display of data. Draw your own conclusions! I happen to think our aircraft cockpit and rendering and liting are amaze-balls, the scenery is a bit generic still. Anyway that's my opinion.
@@austinmeyer not a criticism, just thought it would even get closer to one another. you've done a marvellous job but let's wait another bit for that amaze-ball-party. thanks a lot for sharing.
@@piloto_loco Oh, yes, always more complaints, no matter what! Don't worry! I know!
Superb video! Thanks for putting so much effort in making this video!
Just curious. Is the higher contrast and lower exposure in the simulator due to limitations of the camera used in your capture? Or is it more aeesthetic? Or perhaps because of the canopy?
Yes, interesting question, asked that myself too. I think the camera footage is a bit overexposed.
To say what would be "real" is hard to say ofc, because monitors and perception probably varies a lot. Also when looking at a monitor, we probably compare it to what we are used to see there, which usually is something filmed by a camera. And I think XP12 tries to simulate what it looks like to the eye, not to a camera, which is the right decision imho.
For my personal feeling or taste, XP12 now seems a little underexposed. (I liked the "nuclear sun" of early betas, btw., felt somewhat real to me.)
Maybe an exposure slider would be something to consider? To be able to adopt to the used monitor and personal preference/perception.
You can see that the camera is setup for a higher exposure. Austins Hands and sometimes the Panel is overexposed. The virtual camera is likely operating in a realm where we don't get any overexposure which is my preference too.
I concur, "That was cool". You should use that app in other XP12 aircraft.
Terrific. Biggest surprise was how closely the cockpit shadows matched reality. Haze at altitude might need to be dialed up a bit, but I'm not complaining. I bought XPlane for the superior flight model -- not sightseeing.
Yes, I agree
Graphically this looks amazing. Though I dont think it showcases the flight dynamics in this? The sim airplanes seems to snap into the positions from the replay, which doesn't look very realistic...
I wonder if Austin can do a deal with Working Title to do a version of G1000 avionics for X-Plane 12 ? As it more closely the real world G1000 in this aircraft.
That will never happen
Working title were brought in house to msfs so legally speaking their development is property of msfs but there are plenty of people able to do a G1000nxi in fact I know of one being done but I can’t say any more on that front. There’s also word that a very clever young lady is messing with a G3000 but I don’t know anymore on that front other than rumours
@@aileronsintowind6835 thanks for the heads up !
Throttle and mixture settings quite different?
The next time I go flying, I am going to have to take Xavion with me. I love the idea to replay your flights.
Careful of your battery life on your mobile btw since of course it's a GPS app so will ruin the battery probably quite quickly.
There were some issues with the replay mode at landing I think
what if instead of comparing the visuals, you compared the physics by recording all the inputs, then doing a flight in x-plane using those inputs to see if you end up in the same place.
Thanks for yet another video. Could you tell me what was the FOV used in the video recording in XP12? Thank you!
3:42 - was that a micro-burst?
EDIT: Already corrected on the comments.
I don’t think so because when he took off you’re able to see the exact opposite thing happen where the plane raised up in altitude suddenly. I suspect that he imported some sort of positioning record from his real flight into the flight simulator for it to replicate so that all of the movements and timing would be the same. That’s the only way it makes sense to me since everything was perfectly matched on both sides which would literally be impossible no matter how hard you try.
That’s what it is, gps data from the actual flight
@@sesgow it's just a position because neither throttle nor stick were touched, the only thing i saw moving was gear lever
Thanks, guys.
That was pretty darn cool!
The guy is a legend. Plane (pardon the pun) and simple.............
We can see so much different because of not proper sun light and ground
In different season we can see different ground
Life in rain we see grass grounds
And in summer we see dust and not grass like desert 🏜 no grass
And in winter only snow
can you please leave a tutorial on how to use the fdr playback function in XP 12
That is very interesting, enjoyed it very much, keep up the good work and videos!
Just needs satellite imagery and real-life buildings (not autogen) for VFR flying. I'll be sticking with MSFS
The prop in the real-life version is sweet.
But a prop does only look like that, when filmed by a camera (because of shutter speed). In real, it looks more like XP.
One think that i notice in every x plane game that ground
Ground in xpalne look same it look real but try to make it real life that airport's have
@XPlaneOfficial now we need this uploaded in 4k HDR
This is the highest res we can get I think... the RECORDING was done in 4k on a brand-new iphone 14.. hmm.... yes I would still like more res....
@@austinmeyer iPhones are capable of HDR recording as far as I remember, not sure entirely if the computer screen recorder will go for HDR.
What are the inputs to the sim ? I suppose that you had to set the position and attitude from times to time otherwise a drift would led to an offset of the position and attitude of the aircraft.
It's just slewing around, it's not flying at all in that sense.
Cool idea, Austin!
Now that made me smile. And X Plane world is tidier.
i had no idea you were a pilot, however that makes perfect sense
He started developing XP as a part of his first license as far as I know.
Xplane does not have a phone attached to the panel... unplayable.
Might be a dumb question but what's with the skidding sideways on takeoff?
Torque from the engine is pulling the plane to the left
@@crazycatrox1103 i dont think that what he meant it was doing it while taxing too
He made a video about just this topic 3 weeks ago actually, it's called "x-plane did whaaa??" where he analyzed this effect using the in-game debug graphics
I actually think it’s due to x-plane running on the GPS input from coordinates from the real life flight.
Just like the landing that wasn’t smooth at al but just gps data from the real world flight
Nice ! and Thanks ! Is that default XP 12 Scenery or what Add on ? Thanks !
All default scenery.
The plane looks awesome, even the shadows look the same for the most part, but the scenery only looks similar in the broadest of terms. That would be the thing that needs an upgrade next. Have you made that call with Google yet? :)
I have a feeling 12.5 is gonna be the call to google much like 11,5 was the big API update
@@rextuller3498 We can only hope that it will be!
I doubt thát thát will happen, however, it might be possible for us to create it on a private basis, if we create a payware where people can upload colour-corrected ortho, and where the payment goes to Google and Bing and whaever, shared between them in the ratio that the authors report their image-sources to be....???
- Thát way we won't have to create all our ortho ourselves (which IS a bit of a job, I have for instance never gotten to thát point), like Laminar won't have the trouble (< just checking the ortho for clouds and flat parked cars is a major job, and correcting the flaws even more...).
Right side is way better, maybe put a prettifyer filter next time on Left side 👍
This is probably a stupid question but are the graphics on the plane screens trademarked or copyrighted? The real plane had green grass and blue sky while the game had brown and blue.
The real plane has synthetic vision.. we just have not had time to code that yet in the simulator. We will, it's just a matter of TIME, like everything.
@@austinmeyer Right on. I wasn't complaining or implying anything. I was just curious.
Scenery could be improved. Did you buy rights to satellite imagery and plan to implement it in a similar way to what msfs dis?
No, not in the foreseeable future. They don't have the budget Microsoft have to enable cloud gaming and downloading the whole world on your computer to an acceptable resolution would be hundreds of TB.
But if you want to download satellite imagery you can do so by using ortho as soon as they release a stable version for xp12.
What's the app on the phone?
Differences and Questions: Is the flight scripted. It looks as if the plane is on rails while taxying and starting. And while landing there are this steps, as if the plane is staling ... ?
The view is wider on the left, because of the gopro fishy lens? From minute 3:05 there is a whole pond/puddle missing in X-Plane and the water tower while landing.
Austin, which side is X-plane?
X-Plane should have more to show for all the years it's been out. I haven't seen a huge difference between 11 and 12. Just my two cents. Landscape and cloud formations look so dated.
Perhaps you could do a comparison between your real flight and MSFS….
Unreal. Shame to see no throttle animation, such a simple thing
ahahahahahah, its replay from X-Avion
Austin, please, for the love of all things aviation, please fix the cockpit lighting in XP12. Every cockpit under every lighting condition is way too dark. There are hundreds of forum posts about this issue and XP12 has been out for a while now, but still no fix. And to make matters worse, XP12 has no brightness or gamma control options.
The cockpit should not be barely visible during daylight conditions. It was fine in XP11 but is seriously broken in XP12.
The world is greener in XPlane. Laminar needs to do a better job simulating the effects of the ongoing droughts.
Ever see how green everything is in MSFS 2020? At least there are seasons in XP12. Other environmental factors like droughts would be cool to simulate as well, but need a reliable way of reporting that to the sim.
well, Auston, it looked lot warmer in XPlane .. I don't know ?? (just saying)
on the ground it was drifting!
Which Airport is this on Xplane and why did it looks so great?
All airports in XP12 look pretty good now. Not always the exact types of buildings compared to real world, but always detailed and looking very nice.
@@jorn-jorenjorenson5028 since the last update?
@@user-gb5lv2od9r Not sure when latest airports update was.
@@jorn-jorenjorenson5028 ok thank you, i will test if frankfurt looks better now
that was KCUB to KCDN... where i am based to a nearby field to keep the flight short
TESLAS run cyberpunk in their cars, perhaps that garmin device could run xplane.
What happened there on short final in xp?
The program that recorded their real flight stopped recording for a second, then started recording once on the ground again. This is Xavions fault, nothing to do with x-plane
the gps just glitched a bit... gps is not so great with altitude
Butter landing!
Only light Is different.
When you COULD add raytracing will be perfect
3:40 warum sakt das flugzeug ab als gebe es plötzlich kein wind und auftreib noch ein fehler ?
Es ist ein Replay der Flugdaten, die Austin beim echten Flug aufgezeichnet hat. Die Position des Flugzeugs wurde dabei per GPS aufgezeichnet. GPS-Koordinaten haben eine maximale Genauigkeit von etwa 4m (oft auch ungenauer) und schwanken deshalb oft um einige Meter hin und her.
Wenn man im Simulator fliegt (oder einen Simulator-Flug im Replay anschaut) passiert das natürlich nicht. Die Flugphysik von XP12 ist extrem gut.
Apart from the lousy frame rates whilst taxiing, this video clearly shows that the c-plane world looks nothing like reality.
please add the new vindow view as yu do in the video edits of ths channel, (external view) small new window,,,
hi Austin, I like the cell phone in reality, could you bring me one in the sim?
Truly amazing 💯
Smart you picked a day without clouds🤣🤣
hmm lighting looks dark compared to real life one
It looks great!
Waw big up xplane great work looking good.
In which version of the simulator will real weather and winter with snow appear? 12.55 or already at 13.00? 🤨
It is in 12.00 already. Though there is a bug atm, where real weather is totally off sometimes. Also, when you start a flight in winter/snowy conditions, it usually has no snow on the ground, you have to wait for snow to accumulate and then the scenery gradually will get snow cover.
Both are known issues and are worked on already.
12.00. We have it now. It's awesome.
Of course, the snow BUILDS over TIME....
@@jorn-jorenjorenson5028 That's what I'm talking about. In central Europe, the snow is up to the neck. But in the simulator, I have never seen this. Unless you turn on the snow manually.
So unrealistic. The one on the right had no pilot! Seriously though. Very well done guys. X-Plane is looking mighty impressive. Just need tweak a few things and improve the performance. Even top-end hardware struggles. Especially with multiple monitors.
Jesus some of these comments 🤬
*Why’s the plane sliding about on the runway and taxi way that’s not real*
That’s because of the wonderful accuracy of GPS and the real time delay. If you gonna comment try research it before hand most GPS units will tell you the accuracy it is normally +/- 1m and the real time delay.
*The prop isn’t accurate*
🤦🏼♂️ read up on camera frame rate. The prop in XP is how a prop looks to the human eye in the real world.
Cmon folks even if you don’t know because you’ve never seen it first hand there’s literally an whole world of information and data at your fingers tip. FML I had to travel 6 miles to the local library to read up on this shit whilst studying electrical engineering and undertaking my Photography exams. There’s no real excuse.
Cockpit lighting does need some work though. It’s not easy to replicate the 1000s of adjustments the human eye makes in a second or two in any sim.
Need to update the sun to be a linear source light. The shadows are too sharp.
The sim looks like the aircraft is sliding as it turns on the taxiway. Really looks very fake. Why is that?
Limited accuracy of the GPS on the iphone... a little confused by the flat, car-like turn on the taxiway.
Not sure what to think about this. The inputs (throttle/flaps/...) do not seem to be changing in XP. Is XP playing back a GPS capture or is it modeling the flight in real time? Sorry, not a pilot or sim pilot.
Oh yah I only got LOCATION from xavion... that data was being recorded by... the IPHONE ON THE PANEL! 😲
So, limited data was RECORDED.
xplane seems a little dark
Pls this is about xplane mobile
Can you pls update new planes and liveries also offline global
make the same with FS2020 and let it affect you :-)
Next time use some Ortho4XP 👌👍
I love the reality of the scenery in xplane, but the airplane performance always seems to be much more unstable than a real aircraft. Unless you're using the autopilot, you're constantly fighting to keep the aircraft upright. I know the controls can be tweaked but I've never had much luck doing that. For some reason, in the new xplane 12 version, aircraft all want to pull hard to the left, even without a lot of throttle.
Torque effect baby ...
Torque, weight, speed etc. Just pause and imagine what you are doing here for a moment. You are trying to simulate real life behavior but you can only to that to a certain extent. The plane probably act like it should in the sim, but you as a person are limited in several ways in front of your computer. You don't get the vibrations, you don't feel how things move, you completely lack the sense of depth and the sense of speed is limited.
Just adding a pair of VR googles make the experience so much better and easier to control. I find trimming a small plane quite hard using the monitor but it's way much easier in VR when you have a much better awareness of your vertical direction. One of the biggest beginner faults is that you over control. Be more gentle and look further down the rw and things will become easier with some practice.
please optimize for AMD GPUs
Very interesting, not the least in terms of exposing the differences between x-plane and reality, don't get me wrong, I love x-plane and always have, and always will, but I have always felt that it was way too lively on the taxiways and at take-off, like I have always felt that houses and roads (and rivers) always have stood out too much, and this video does confirm both (< houses etc at for instance at 3:05).
- The great thing about it is that toning down the drawing of the houses/roads etc, most likely will mean a performance relief/increase, or it can be changed to draw things like bushes and shrub in the gardens, rather than super-sharp houses and not the least pavements....??? ;- )
And that x-plane is too lively on the taxi- and runways, might be something about the friction between tyre and astphalt, and too short latency, which it might be relatively easy to correct for....???
As close as it can get.. fantastic video and more importantly product Austin.
Not good at all I don't know if people in the comment watched the same video that I just watched, the graphics sucks, the readings of instruments are not accurate and don't match the real thing , physics X-plane one is flying on rails while there's some shaking in real life , I'm sure Msfs would've done far better job on this comparison.
Ye so since i know where this "coder" flew ive flown it in the mfs2020 with a bonanza and it looked nich better
The be fair the plane in the sim didn't fly at all. It just followed the recorded path from Xavion. I wish the FS community were a bit more mature than what you show of here Alton @alton4357
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Xplane 12 it's very dark 😁
Very cool!
X-Plane is still a tiny bit under-saturated. Minor corrections needed. But other than that really impressive.
I want to see the blades
You never see the blades of a spinning prop in real life. Only a camera sees them (because of the shutter speed). X-Plane simulates what your eyes see, not a camera. For the same reason there are no lens flares and such effects.
make me happy, make me smile
What is this simulator ??? On the right, the plane teleports on the runway, takeoff and on landing. I did not understand the meaning of this video 🙄
It is playing back the GPS coordinates of the plane recorded in the real flight. GPS coordinates are not exact at all, that's why the glitching. Of that does not happen when flying in the sim or playing back a sim flight.
sim is way too dark compared to the video. Ok, it is a camera, not the eyes, but still, what i see on a video side is more relevant to what i see with my eyes in terms of exposure. No clouds to compare. In terms of ground scenery, i don't know, if this video advertise XP12 or doing opposite. I'm an avid fan of XP since yearly XP10, but now the picture of MSFS outweights XP's superior flight model. Addon aircrafts for MSFS getting better and better. But still, when you hand fly anything from 737 to a Kodiak, i like how it feels in XP better.
XP 12 is way too dark.