@@christopherbadillo3342The battery is not hard to swap at all. Comes with quick release bolts now. Takes me less than a minute to swap out everyday to bring it inside of my job to charge.
what's interesting is that controller/display combo could potentially add actual pedal assist for lower speed pedaled riding under power if you equipped it with a torque or cadence sensor, making the pedals actually practical
Looks good. One thing I might recommend after unplugging the battery, is turning the key on for a second and letting it discharge any power that might be stored in the controller.
@@Talariaboys Y’all make the absolute best content. A while back you guys were the reason I bought the bike and now y’all got me upgrading my bike too 😭😭. Much love from Canada, keep it up!
It is kind of sad, but I appreciate you guys trying it out. Still happy with my XXX black edition. If the battery or anything dies I will just get something else. Btw, the weather in Fl is great, but still no mountains.
I’m going to save up for a xxx, I love the urban theme of them, and the fact that you can still off-road with them, this controller and the chi battery are definitely good to know that they’re out there just in case…
Thanks for the honest review, I’m sure it’ll save some folks from buyers remorse. I do like the display better than the stock display though. What’s reid’s height btw?, i’m 5’ 11 190lbs and wondering if the x3 would be too small for me. It would be awesome if you guys could find the time to make a size comparison video of the x3, sting r, and pro ss discussing comfortability for different sizes riders, I haven’t seen a single video on TH-cam about that topic.
Nah thats a perfect size. Im 5'10" 177lb and its perfect for me. I raised my seat 2 inches and put taller tires now its harder to reach both feet flat on the ground
Definitely try messing around more with the amp settings as something is really off. I found someone on FB that runs a x9000 and he runs 8.7kw 110BA 450PA 50% FW at 65A. Apparently Ebmx suggests 100BA 400PA and to turn FW off completely so maybe also try that? Your phase amps is super low and just offhand your FW amps seems really high especially when you are getting only 1mph more, I would set it to 0 and then set the settings above. After slowly raise the FW amps till any cutouts occur
This is wht im saying an thinking hea definitely doing something wrong or it's just the nuclear control... even cody Ewing says we can run up to 8.6kw with no triping the bms
Great video guys! Im a first time buyer and go to you guys for all my product knowledge so i feel confident with whatever purchase i end up makeing! Quick question though...Once you've installed the new controller will you need to recut another wire in order to "unlock" the bikes power again? Thanks
4:37 did you guys ever install the thumb throttle? Still not sure if I should change it or not lol (there isn’t a single video out there of the Nucular controller with thumb throttle 😐)
would this make a difference from the stock controller with stock battery and motor? and is there a way to get an egg rider display with this instead of the big one that comes with it
Question: How much dirt ends up in and around all of the critical electrical components? I understand they're sealed/potted/water/dust proof/resistant. When cleaning a filthy bike, is the dirty mostly superficial/external, or does it get packed into crevices around the battery, controller, motor, horn, etc? Is one type/model more dirty than others?
wait so does this come with the 3d printed brackets to make it look flush? eventually im getting that 72v chi so this will be great for that. i think mine hits like 60 mph tho
Considering you can flash the international version w/ Luna's tune for $50, I wouldn't reckon its worth it for the international one either. Only worth it if you're replacing the battery.
We didn’t loosen the bar, we loosened the side bolt of the stem, which is necessary. When you loosen or remove the top cap you have to also loosen the sides of the stem because when you tighten the top cap it tightens the headset together which has to be done with the side bolts loose which is why we did it in the order we did.
The controller but with the Surron or Talaria kits they are over $800. I know you get them for free but did you get the $825 kit or just the raw controller?
I was hoping the xXx battery would be like the surron where you could run 8-10kw on stock battery :( kind of sad you only get 100 more watts and a little bit more acceleration
That will come i have the nucular p24f on my talaria sting R And they have a Bluetooth Modul in beta test and a App I have the Modul for testing since 2 weeks Workes fine so far 👍 So in a few month that will maybee available
@@silvan125 since you have the bluetooth module and i saw in this video they forgot to disconnect the display. I am wanting to just get the controller without the screen and use my OEM screen and you app for configuring changes etc. Maybe my phone occasionally.
@@roryharness2379 I tried it without Display and with Phone and app but the Phone is a bigger Display 😅 So i put the nucular Display back on the bike 😅 i like the nucular display more than the big roadlegal display what is similar to the display on the eride pro ss I change my settings with the app But Keep the nuc Display as speedometer and to See my motor Temp and battery percent on the fly It is clearer to See on nuc Display as on a eggrider Display i belive 😅
@@silvan125 yeah I am wonder about OEM talaria display I really just want battery % and odometer and mph. Talaria boys forgot to unhook it and it looked powered on but wondered what info it showed and what worked on it. I am 100% off-road and have an Mx bar with bar pad setup no room for phone or big display.
Sounds like it’s better to leave your XXX stock controller instead of spending $900 on this controller and like you said, unless you are upgrading the battery but still I think that they should have a drop down menu on their website on what battery you are running so that they can send the SD card with the tune on it with the kit along the instructions on how to load it they can even add the cost of the SD card into the price to make it a true plug-n play setup especially if they’re not going to integrate an app which I think an app is much better and easier with these controllers just my 2cents Im looking into getting one of these XXX in red with the pedal kit but waiting till the price drops to be comparable to the 72V Mantis X @ $2999.00
@@Talariaboys that’s why you should make a video on it tell people why not to buy it I already have a surron ultra bee so I wouldn’t have bought it anyway
No you can’t. Not without having your headset come loose later. You have to loosen the stem and then tighten the top cap bolt first and then tighten the stem again.
This video was very poorly put together if this is supposed to be a guide on how to install this. ... This wire goes there (points camera to a general area, this nut goes here and then ....oops I did it backwards . Cuts video to other side of bike and starts showing somthing else ,zip tie here and here . Lol it was allll over the place. Cool bike though.
I’m about to say fuck it and cut open the battery bay and make the bay bigger so I can drop in a bigger battery and maybe a different motor make me a frankenxxx
@@Talariaboys did you see the surron the guy put two 72v batteries in 🤯 that’s the way I’m thinking of going I want a ridiculous range lol but yeah I heard
CHI has a 72V battery for the XXX now..would be cool to see the nuclear with the 72V
Thinking about going down the route but funnily enough wondering what I will do with the old battery
@@inzetajacklon1278 I'm thinking 2 profile settings. 1 72v profile and 1 60v profile so you can switch them out
@@dilbertduck would work better for a sting or a LBX cuz the battery is a pain to swap
@@christopherbadillo3342The battery is not hard to swap at all. Comes with quick release bolts now. Takes me less than a minute to swap out everyday to bring it inside of my job to charge.
I have a 72 V chai battery with this controller. I can’t get it to go faster than 25 mph.
what's interesting is that controller/display combo could potentially add actual pedal assist for lower speed pedaled riding under power if you equipped it with a torque or cadence sensor, making the pedals actually practical
Looks good. One thing I might recommend after unplugging the battery, is turning the key on for a second and letting it discharge any power that might be stored in the controller.
Yes good recommendation
This with the 72v will be such an exciting video, I cannot wait!!!!!
Ahhh you my friend have no idea what’s coming! This isn’t our 72v build…. We have another xxx build coming. Stay tuned
@@Talariaboys Y’all make the absolute best content. A while back you guys were the reason I bought the bike and now y’all got me upgrading my bike too 😭😭. Much love from Canada, keep it up!
It is kind of sad, but I appreciate you guys trying it out. Still happy with my XXX black edition. If the battery or anything dies I will just get something else. Btw, the weather in Fl is great, but still no mountains.
“Power” mode is absolutely crazy on the P24F
I’m going to save up for a xxx, I love the urban theme of them, and the fact that you can still off-road with them, this controller and the chi battery are definitely good to know that they’re out there just in case…
Thanks for the honest review, I’m sure it’ll save some folks from buyers remorse. I do like the display better than the stock display though. What’s reid’s height btw?, i’m 5’ 11 190lbs and wondering if the x3 would be too small for me. It would be awesome if you guys could find the time to make a size comparison video of the x3, sting r, and pro ss discussing comfortability for different sizes riders, I haven’t seen a single video on TH-cam about that topic.
Nah thats a perfect size. Im 5'10" 177lb and its perfect for me. I raised my seat 2 inches and put taller tires now its harder to reach both feet flat on the ground
Ya you would fit just fine on a xxx and would enjoy it for sure! Yes hopefully in the future we can do some size comparisons.
Ayy been loving my red X3 ghas about 60 miles can’t wait to upgrade and follow along with u guys
Definitely try messing around more with the amp settings as something is really off. I found someone on FB that runs a x9000 and he runs 8.7kw 110BA 450PA 50% FW at 65A. Apparently Ebmx suggests 100BA 400PA and to turn FW off completely so maybe also try that? Your phase amps is super low and just offhand your FW amps seems really high especially when you are getting only 1mph more, I would set it to 0 and then set the settings above. After slowly raise the FW amps till any cutouts occur
This is wht im saying an thinking hea definitely doing something wrong or it's just the nuclear control... even cody Ewing says we can run up to 8.6kw with no triping the bms
Finally, the video I have been waiting for! Keep up the great content ❤
I’ve been waiting for this!!! Wanted to make sure this controller worked before buying 😁😆
Great video guys! Im a first time buyer and go to you guys for all my product knowledge so i feel confident with whatever purchase i end up makeing! Quick question though...Once you've installed the new controller will you need to recut another wire in order to "unlock" the bikes power again? Thanks
Thanks for watching! No more wires need to be cut
You should review the 2024 sting mx3. It’s supposed to have an updated controller
I saw that! It seems like a great deal for 3,400
do you have to keep the screen for the controller connected
Wow 👌 thanks 👍 for the honest review 👏 you guys are amazing
Thanks for watching!
4:37 did you guys ever install the thumb throttle? Still not sure if I should change it or not lol (there isn’t a single video out there of the Nucular controller with thumb throttle 😐)
Yes we did and use it all the time
Thank you for the honest review
would this make a difference from the stock controller with stock battery and motor? and is there a way to get an egg rider display with this instead of the big one that comes with it
No it doesn't make much difference without doing an upgraded battery as well
Question: How much dirt ends up in and around all of the critical electrical components?
I understand they're sealed/potted/water/dust proof/resistant.
When cleaning a filthy bike, is the dirty mostly superficial/external, or does it get packed into crevices around the battery, controller, motor, horn, etc?
Is one type/model more dirty than others?
Not much in reality. They are pretty sealed up and easy to clean.
wait so does this come with the 3d printed brackets to make it look flush? eventually im getting that 72v chi so this will be great for that. i think mine hits like 60 mph tho
Yes ours came with the 3d printed version bracket but in the future probably already they are sending with nice injection molded plastic brackets.
@@Talariaboys Sweet! I may have to pick this up it’s fairly cheap so
Did you have Mtpa enabled?
Considering you can flash the international version w/ Luna's tune for $50, I wouldn't reckon its worth it for the international one either. Only worth it if you're replacing the battery.
How do you flash for $50??? Source ?
I understand taking off the top cap to replace with the display mount... Was there any reason to loosen the bars?
We didn’t loosen the bar, we loosened the side bolt of the stem, which is necessary. When you loosen or remove the top cap you have to also loosen the sides of the stem because when you tighten the top cap it tightens the headset together which has to be done with the side bolts loose which is why we did it in the order we did.
i just want a battery that allows me to got further. I don't really care about having more power or not
How do u think this controller would do vs flashing the Luna Cycle tune onto the international XXX?
This is better but not a ton
That’s the perfect fork to handle the power you will get oh my goodness you guys
The controller but with the Surron or Talaria kits they are over $800. I know you get them for free but did you get the $825 kit or just the raw controller?
We got the full kit for the xxx, I believe it costs $840 out the door from there website.
That display is HUGE
when you cut the brown wire does the stock speedometer stop working?
No it keeps working
what would you do to setup the battery with a 72v like what would u change
Just change the battery voltage in the controller settings and raise up the power since it can take a lot higher numbers
Pedals?
Can anyone help me out, on my xxx there's a knocking sound when I accelerate and gets worse the faster I go?? I don't know what it is??
Your belt could be crooked or chain could be stiff and need lube
I was hoping the xXx battery would be like the surron where you could run 8-10kw on stock battery :( kind of sad you only get 100 more watts and a little bit more acceleration
You can get more definitively somebody with a talaria xxx pushes 8.7 kw
Any way to connect controller to phone via Bluetooth ? Not a fan of that screen
Not currently
That will come i have the nucular p24f on my talaria sting R
And they have a Bluetooth Modul in beta test and a App
I have the Modul for testing since 2 weeks
Workes fine so far 👍
So in a few month that will maybee available
@@silvan125 since you have the bluetooth module and i saw in this video they forgot to disconnect the display. I am wanting to just get the controller without the screen and use my OEM screen and you app for configuring changes etc. Maybe my phone occasionally.
@@roryharness2379
I tried it without Display and with Phone and app but the Phone is a bigger Display 😅
So i put the nucular Display back on the bike 😅 i like the nucular display more than the big roadlegal display what is similar to the display on the eride pro ss
I change my settings with the app
But Keep the nuc Display as speedometer and to See my motor Temp and battery percent on the fly
It is clearer to See on nuc Display as on a eggrider Display i belive 😅
@@silvan125 yeah I am wonder about OEM talaria display I really just want battery % and odometer and mph.
Talaria boys forgot to unhook it and it looked powered on but wondered what info it showed and what worked on it. I am 100% off-road and have an Mx bar with bar pad setup no room for phone or big display.
Do you need to install the new display?
I believe you do because that’s the only way to set the controller up.
Is it possible to keep the stock display with that controller?
No
Is that the stock motor
Cool video! Should have explained speed limit more :)
Can you guys add a kill switch for the headlights?
Yes it’s possible but a lot of wiring
@@Talariaboys no plug & play similar to mx4 plugs or anything?
I haven’t really checked out the wiring on the xxx, i just got it
how do i buy a controler for my talaria xxx
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That's the exact bike I want pedals and all
Great video keep it up guys
I’m stuck trying to decide between talaria xxx or Surron light bee
Me too! This one is roughly $3500 shipped to my door, surron lbx is $3600.
@@Seedoo-kj1id I sold my Surron for a xxx best decision xxx better for me I’m 5 .4 it’s perfect
@@Seedoo-kj1iddid you make a decision yet?
@@PSC_PAPERSTACKINCOMMITTEE nope. Been seeing some xxx locally for $2800, i might just grab that.
@@Seedoo-kj1idI pulled the trigger and got a surron
Would love to see nucular with a 74v on the xxx thinking of doing it to mine but don’t quite know yet 😅
Coming
Sounds like it’s better to leave your XXX stock controller instead of spending $900 on this controller and like you said, unless you are upgrading the battery but still
I think that they should have a drop down menu on their website on what battery you are running so that they can send the SD card with the tune on it with the kit along the instructions on how to load it they can even add the cost of the SD card into the price to make it a true plug-n play setup especially if they’re not going to integrate an app which I think an app is much better and easier with these controllers just my 2cents
Im looking into getting one of these XXX in red with the pedal kit but waiting till the price drops to be comparable to the 72V Mantis X @ $2999.00
Agreed. Good points
We need to see this setup paired with a 72v battery
Coming
@@Talariaboyshow long?
Thanks for sharing 😎 👍
I really want one of these x3s
They are fun, only need risor bars.
Yay a you guys I’m impressed
Do you actually pay money for these parts or are they just sending them to you?
Mostly sent to us
Why haven’t u done video on the nicot
It’s a waste of money buy a different bike
@@Talariaboys that’s why you should make a video on it tell people why not to buy it
I already have a surron ultra bee so I wouldn’t have bought it anyway
All they have to do is sell a different swing arm for off road they sell everything else so with the off road wheels
The more I see the xxx the more I regret buying a Sting R
The Sting R is a nicer bike so don’t feel bad.
Love the videos, but sometimes your wiring isn't the best. Keep up the great work.
lol
Waste of money if it doesn’t go faster wish a BAC 4000 worked on the XXX?
Bac4000 wouldn't be any better than this controller. In fact its much worse in a lot of ways. So many better controllers than that now.
Could have just swapped the topcap for the gopro mount,,,😮 without indoing the stem😂😂😂
No you can’t. Not without having your headset come loose later. You have to loosen the stem and then tighten the top cap bolt first and then tighten the stem again.
Where i live that controller costs 1400 dollars
Darn
Just to be clear,talaria x3 also refers to talaria xxx right I’m a little slow😅
Yes
Are those controllers made in russia?
Kazakhstan
This video was very poorly put together if this is supposed to be a guide on how to install this. ... This wire goes there (points camera to a general area, this nut goes here and then ....oops I did it backwards . Cuts video to other side of bike and starts showing somthing else ,zip tie here and here . Lol it was allll over the place. Cool bike though.
We would love to see you make a better install video. Send us a link when it’s ready.
I’m about to say fuck it and cut open the battery bay and make the bay bigger so I can drop in a bigger battery and maybe a different motor make me a frankenxxx
You realize they make upgraded batteries you can already buy right?
@@Talariaboys did you see the surron the guy put two 72v batteries in 🤯 that’s the way I’m thinking of going I want a ridiculous range lol but yeah I heard
hi 1
I went face first twice on the street so I’m not so pretty anymore
Pricy
Ye
If by pass it’s a complete accident