@@eXpriest Would be interesting theory, but unlikely. I seen multiple papers placing wolf domestication between 10k and 27k ago at most, and probably happening multiple times, at multiple places independently from each other. At the time, our last hominid cousin neanderthal, was already out of the game for ~13k ish, if I remember numbers correctly. But still true, we are the only to have the doggos as pets now, they are also some modern human populations that never domesticated them, and didn't gone anywhere near extinct (cough...until...cough.. cough... colonisation).
@@DeSpaceFairy That's not entirely accurate given that if you're of Eurasian descent about 5 to 8% of your genome is neanderthal DNA, so you could say homo sapiens domesticated them too.
@@eXpriest I'm well aware of it, and I may not been clear enough when I have employed "modern human" specifically and not "homo sapiens". But don't change the fact as a species neanderthal is totally extinct, for example I have ancestors within the ~500 last years coming from almost everywhere (minus Oceania and Pacific Islands), does that make me more neanderthal than the average modern human? (Or funnier to think of, we all share 80% DNA with potatoes, making only 20% related to human specific, does it make us all more potatoe than neanderthal?) No, because that's not how genetic works.
@@eXpriestI wouldn’t think so. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a species of advanced thought process, pattern recognition, spatial awareness, accuracy in depth perception, and capable of both ambush and persistence tactics. There’s some conjecture that we ate our competition, but most likely our ferocious aggression is to blame. That and genetic dilution.
I liked this one enough to check out the link. While there I read 'stained glass'. Ever consider narrating that one? Nearly ever comment described how moving and well-written it is. I have to concur. I was crying like a baby at the end. Still am.
one of my most favorite stories, I bookmarked it ... for the author, for the narrator, for the 100k .... a comment to bribe the algorithm ... hope it works on old stories too
At 11:00; in the first story and 24:07 in the second story vs. 22:40; in the second story, I thought the greeting was "Hello kitty" vs "Hello Doggy" in the second story? ;-)
@@sbritton1313 Of course, Saint Nicolas and the legend of Santa Claus is only a few centuries old. The story of Utreet dates to this race's Stone Age, probably predates agriculture. Do WE have any stories that date back to the neolithic? If we do, they'd be so mangled by now that they'd probably be unrecognizable to the original storytellers.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Actually history has a lot of cases like this. The story of the city of Troy was considered just a Legend until they found the actual city. Going further back to our own stone age it's been shown towards the end of the Last Ice age a release of built up glacial melt water caused the Oceans to rise several feet in only a few years. Many scholars speculate this could of been what gave rise to the Myth of Noah's flood which itself is built on an older myths found throughout much of the world in various cultures of a great flood. There are also tons of under water monuments just off the shore lines showing thriving towns were once built there. This also helps explain some of the missing pieces in human history as it's known humans moved from Africa to Asia along the coast and then across to America. Yet there is practically no archeological remains of the mass migration or the development of settlements during this period. But that missing evidence makes a lot more sense when you consider they would have followed the shore line which was further out and it all got flooded away now being under the ocean. Take the story of a Roman city that was wiped out in a single night by divine wraith. Only to later have them find the remains of Pompeii. A lot of natural disaster got attributed to acts of Gods as people tried to make sense of the tragedy. In later years with the rise of science we dismiss this old stories as simply fantasy because they called upon gods, rather then giving them the chance that they were based on a element of truth that was embellished for primitive people to better understand. The difference between our stories though and the one in the video is it's a lot more exciting to find out about aliens visiting your world than it is to find out some tale of divine intervention was just a Volcano, Earthquake, or other such common place Natural disasters that while rare have been seen plenty since then. Or like the case of Troy an old war story that seemed to fantastical in scale yet turned out to be true as we have had far greater and large scale battles since then. Our stories are more akin to finding out China had Oil Drilling and Steam engines long before the industrial revolution but never did anything with them as they were a novelty to show off to nobles. While today we drive around in high performance automotives so no one cares they did it first. And yeah that's true, look it up. :)
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Hercules and Gilgamesh, both ancient warrior kings, are heavily believed to be from the stone age, but mutated slightly with time. Hercules in particular, although both have very strong ties with the stars, with tales of the constellations as a whole being some of the earliest tales in our history.
Indigenous Australians tell stories still about the marsupial lion that has been extinct for 8k years or so. The only thing I remember is it can't look up.
It been a few years since I heard this last but i distinctly remember not liking it but after giving it another listen i have more of a appreciation for both of these stories
Funny thing is, ravens will actually hunt with wolves and lead them to prey.
I've never heard of that, but it's not surprising. There's bird in Africa that's leads hunters to bee hives for a share of honey.
Ravens. Crows will work with others. Crows have been known to bond with certain people for mutual benefit.
Accidentally teaching a race to make space dogs would be awesome
Space cats.
when your pack bounding instinct is so strong you teach it to other species by mistake
There are no mistakes, just happy accidents
I just imagined when the “sky person” realized what’s going on he’s thinking “shit how badly did we screw up”
I remember reading a paper that posited that Homo Sapiens became the sole surviving Hominid partly because of our symbiosis with dogs.
@@eXpriest Would be interesting theory, but unlikely. I seen multiple papers placing wolf domestication between 10k and 27k ago at most, and probably happening multiple times, at multiple places independently from each other. At the time, our last hominid cousin neanderthal, was already out of the game for ~13k ish, if I remember numbers correctly. But still true, we are the only to have the doggos as pets now, they are also some modern human populations that never domesticated them, and didn't gone anywhere near extinct (cough...until...cough.. cough... colonisation).
@@DeSpaceFairy That's not entirely accurate given that if you're of Eurasian descent about 5 to 8% of your genome is neanderthal DNA, so you could say homo sapiens domesticated them too.
@@eXpriest I'm well aware of it, and I may not been clear enough when I have employed "modern human" specifically and not "homo sapiens". But don't change the fact as a species neanderthal is totally extinct, for example I have ancestors within the ~500 last years coming from almost everywhere (minus Oceania and Pacific Islands), does that make me more neanderthal than the average modern human? (Or funnier to think of, we all share 80% DNA with potatoes, making only 20% related to human specific, does it make us all more potatoe than neanderthal?) No, because that's not how genetic works.
@@eXpriestI wouldn’t think so. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a species of advanced thought process, pattern recognition, spatial awareness, accuracy in depth perception, and capable of both ambush and persistence tactics. There’s some conjecture that we ate our competition, but most likely our ferocious aggression is to blame. That and genetic dilution.
For the treats... and for the space dogs... always for the space dogs.
for the goodbois
I don't know why my brain was imagining them as space cats
Sentient birds naming humans as sky people...
irony
The universe is mad, yet our minds insist on making sense of it.
Well, we came out of the sky...even higher than they could fly.
I liked this one enough to check out the link. While there I read 'stained glass'. Ever consider narrating that one? Nearly ever comment described how moving and well-written it is. I have to concur. I was crying like a baby at the end. Still am.
This story is pretty adorable.
yarp
The number of times my daughter said "hello doggy" to all sorts of breeds was a pleasure to see.
I had thought they were a cat-like species until they were revealed as dog-like instead
Same
Then again, cats don't give a shit so it probably would've attacked regardless
one of my most favorite stories, I bookmarked it ... for the author, for the narrator, for the 100k .... a comment to bribe the algorithm ... hope it works on old stories too
At 11:00; in the first story and 24:07 in the second story vs. 22:40; in the second story, I thought the greeting was "Hello kitty" vs "Hello Doggy" in the second story? ;-)
both of these stories are completely adorable.
Fuzzy!!!
And so humans unwittingly taught a culture the concept of taming.
And yes, I could see how first flight would be a celebratory occasion.
Pretty cute story, I was smiling so big at the end.
glad to hear it
So Sarushi turns out to be real does that mean the everlasting food he stole exist? Did he really make the make holes in somthing by sneezing!
He had a magnetic cannon
That sounds like gun powder or a bomb kicking up dust and that dust getting to his nose and him sneezing because of it has the same effect
Sounds like that bird saw alot more things than he actually told
This one is genuinely wholesome and entertaining
I loved the premise of these paired stories.
FTAP! For the astral puppers!
Now that is some great fiction/story telling.
aaww this whole thing is just so whimsical
For the Author(s), for the narrator Agro Squirrel, for the algorithm !!!
That child is going to be impossible to deal with when she is supposed to out grow childish beliefs.
Oh that's a gorgeous set of stories. Just lovely.
keeper going
kept going
Good story I really like this series of stories every one is as good as I've heard any time on this channel 👍👌👨🚀
glad you enjoyed
Nice doggos.
I hope this story continues
Spoiler:
This is like finding out Santa is real. hahahahaha
But he was a real person.... Look up saint Nicholas
@@sbritton1313 Of course, Saint Nicolas and the legend of Santa Claus is only a few centuries old. The story of Utreet dates to this race's Stone Age, probably predates agriculture.
Do WE have any stories that date back to the neolithic? If we do, they'd be so mangled by now that they'd probably be unrecognizable to the original storytellers.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Actually history has a lot of cases like this. The story of the city of Troy was considered just a Legend until they found the actual city. Going further back to our own stone age it's been shown towards the end of the Last Ice age a release of built up glacial melt water caused the Oceans to rise several feet in only a few years. Many scholars speculate this could of been what gave rise to the Myth of Noah's flood which itself is built on an older myths found throughout much of the world in various cultures of a great flood. There are also tons of under water monuments just off the shore lines showing thriving towns were once built there.
This also helps explain some of the missing pieces in human history as it's known humans moved from Africa to Asia along the coast and then across to America. Yet there is practically no archeological remains of the mass migration or the development of settlements during this period. But that missing evidence makes a lot more sense when you consider they would have followed the shore line which was further out and it all got flooded away now being under the ocean.
Take the story of a Roman city that was wiped out in a single night by divine wraith. Only to later have them find the remains of Pompeii. A lot of natural disaster got attributed to acts of Gods as people tried to make sense of the tragedy. In later years with the rise of science we dismiss this old stories as simply fantasy because they called upon gods, rather then giving them the chance that they were based on a element of truth that was embellished for primitive people to better understand.
The difference between our stories though and the one in the video is it's a lot more exciting to find out about aliens visiting your world than it is to find out some tale of divine intervention was just a Volcano, Earthquake, or other such common place Natural disasters that while rare have been seen plenty since then. Or like the case of Troy an old war story that seemed to fantastical in scale yet turned out to be true as we have had far greater and large scale battles since then.
Our stories are more akin to finding out China had Oil Drilling and Steam engines long before the industrial revolution but never did anything with them as they were a novelty to show off to nobles. While today we drive around in high performance automotives so no one cares they did it first. And yeah that's true, look it up. :)
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Hercules and Gilgamesh, both ancient warrior kings, are heavily believed to be from the stone age, but mutated slightly with time. Hercules in particular, although both have very strong ties with the stars, with tales of the constellations as a whole being some of the earliest tales in our history.
Indigenous Australians tell stories still about the marsupial lion that has been extinct for 8k years or so. The only thing I remember is it can't look up.
humans gave a lil birdie a space pupper.
It been a few years since I heard this last but i distinctly remember not liking it but after giving it another listen i have more of a appreciation for both of these stories
In the feels.
them onion ninjas are everywhere
I really hope this continues on HFY. Time to take a look.
For the Squerril
For the algorithm
For the algorithm and space 🐕
for the algorithm
@@AgroSquerril is their a part 3 ?
@@ragnorockcookie2868 not as of yet
@@AgroSquerril okay ty
*Words*
Numbers
Letters
@@AgroSquerril *symbols*
Hieroglyphs
Algorithms
Both stories are cute AF
XD
Excelent story XD
For the algorithm!
for the algorithm
For the Algorithm, For the Author(s), For the Disembodied Voice!
For the algorithm
Great premise
Cool story
For the algorithm!
for the algorithm
@@AgroSquerril to please the algorithm is all
For the algorithm
First for the algorithm
Algorithm be pleased.
For the algorithm
For the algorithm
For the swarm
This is like finding out space Santa is real
Who's a good dog?
Algorithm enhancement for treats
The Algorithm11! seems a bit flighty this episode. *treat?*
i sure wish youtubes texting would work
That was really gooid
Oops! Good stories, both. I wonder how far back the contact was?
There doesn't seem to be a transcript to this story ,just music ,mucic , not complaining , good narration
That was a great story, a healthy and wholesome form of cross cultural contamination
Is there a third part?
Space dogs are the best.
For the Algorithm11!
For the Algorithm
11
First for the algorithm
For the algorithm
105th, 1 December 2023
For the Algorithm11!
for the algorithm
First for the algorithm
For the algorithm though I was first
For the algorithm