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28:19 i actually had a dream about hylics 2. it was a dream about secret knight characters that you can find during a segment in the game where wayne dawns some neon led-ridden knight armor. Truly astral, if you ask me.
Pongorma being from past age is implied , if not outright stated, in H2. He says that he knew the Sages and was in search of the great power they can bestow. He was searching for wither Legend of Melting or that last power from H2
Sadly it has people that joined cause Hylics is too original rather than the actual game itself. On the first trailer for Hylics 2 I wrote "May your gland endure 1000 years" and it got ignored proving that no one played Hylics 1, no one is writing sand castles or talking randomly generated text.
29:24 "could this be Gibby's doing?" No. Pongorma literally says that he has dominion over the Amublant Skulls. Why they still overrun Somsnosa's house in Hylics 2 doesn't really make sense to me, though.
Mason’s comments about how the NPCs who were mindblasted by Gibby to speak nonsense were the “Hylics” was basically what I thought. It lines up, considering they are “reduced” physically and mentally. The same could be said of all inhabitants of that world, as they are constantly searching for answers in the ancients knowledge and relics… which include mundane things like paper cups.
I have a sorta personal headcanon theory about Gnosticism and Hylics with the greater beliefs of it not being important more of just the idea of the word itself of a soulless being. As said by Mason the characters under Gibby’s control don’t have a purpose or much drive. The only one with that “will” is the main cast who speak with purpose and ideas. This is the same in the second game to a lesser extent. Most NPCs in even the first half of the game kinda just are letting life go by doing their job and shit. The only real creatives are Wayne and crew with their band, which Gibby despises because he wants to plung the world into meaninglessness and nothingness. A world of Hylics
Pongorma states at the end of Hylics 2 that he enjoyed his time on the planet even if it didn’t amount to anything special like the time he spent with the sages. If this is true then wouldn’t Pongorma be one of these “Hylics”?. In the first game he is sitting in his vault watching TV, presumably not doing anything important. Are the games of Hylics meant to be a sort of “call to action” for people to find a passion and do something other than becoming mindless because of what others want them to be? Is Gibby meant to represent those who wish to maximize profits instead of fueling creation? Pretty much every party member in the first game is either stuck trying to do something or is actively doing nothing. Because of this, Wayne could represent the driving force to do something better with one’s life than what they were doing. I think that the meaning of Hylics is that falling into what others want you to be will only make you just a “meat computer”, with no real aspirations. Life is meant to be your journey, so you should be the one who decides what to do next.
The Demiurge isn't the creator god in the traditional sense. Its a being that essentially got given a bunch of unshaped matter (clay if you will) and decided to start making shit with it, having no sense of the importance of their acts either through ignorance or a desire for their own control. They didn't make the universe so much as inherited it, shaped it into something imperfect, and continue to hold it within a certain boundary of form so that it keeps the function of keeping people trapped from the rest of the universe, either in a crab bucket way or as a tyrant that can theoretically be overthrown but will always be back and will always rule, with the only way to defeat it being either to transcend beyond one's material self and thus beyond its purview, or by finding a configuration of the material world that suits the needs of humanity, depending on who you ask or what sources you read.
Chuck Salamone is definitely NOT a pen name. Apparently, a high school classmate of his ended up playing Hylics, was surprised to see Chuck's name in the credits, and went to Mason's TH-cam uploads of the game's soundtrack to comment on it. He and Chuck briefly talked to each other there.
Hey i don't know if anyone else said this in the comments but i think that the dedusmuln knows one refers to the fact that he may know about what happened in the past or lived to see what happened before the actions of the game. If hylics happens after human extinction it may mean he knows that humans existed
29:30 I think I know at least one reason it's said to search with caution. There's a semi-prominent antisemetic conspiracy theory surrounding the concept of an Egregore, so it might just be "hey careful how you search this or you'll get some weird-ass youtube recommendations." Either that or it's just trying to be all creepypasta.
In that early Mason Lindroth game, the “Beta Wayne” one, he looks like a conehead. Maybe the conehead cultists are supposed to represent the type of people who glorify alpha or beta builds of games or original versions of things… Or maybe they literally worship beta Wayne?
After I played hylics I had a dream where I ran a hotel and Isabelle from animal crossing was there and she did the rayman hair thing with her ears, and then met wayne and Isabelle simped for wayne and then wayne left so I made fun of Isabelle. Then I made a series of short comics which I hate
@@ijustlikebees I killed off Isabelle. Isabelle and Somsnosa had a super smash bros fight and Isabelle got launched into a barrel of acid, and now her ghost is a recurring villian.
29:53 so, egregores (at least in spiritism, my religion) are beings born of the collective thinking of people, or also the accumulation of the energy of spirits in a specific area, and the closest thing that comes to me when i think of an egregore involving wayne is that wayne sage thing on hylics 2 at the top of the wayne house.
The demiurge didn't so much "create" the universe from nothing, as "carve" it out from the body of a higher God. That is gnosticism's explanation for why we can imagine ideals but only act as shadows of them, we can imagine perfection but all existing things are flaws, and why we yearn to be part of Something Greater that is entirely absent in the mostly-hollow universe. Hylics referring to the dread of being a soulless flesh automaton participating in meaningless random frantic action is completely in line with gnostic beliefs - and the abundance of meat reinforces this concept as a constant reminder that living bodies are simply physical objects.
> "I haven't been able to play the second one yet, due to... hardware issues" i feel that, man. i feel ya. i can barely get 20fps out of H2, only some battles and small rooms run at 30 or above. I've been playing it, choppy as it is, and apart from the game being even harder to control (the lowered framerate doesn't allow for on-the-dot inputs) it is still a really good game.
Not gonna lie. There is some cool stuff here but choosing an ice berg where 1 to 2 thirds of it is just straight made up or indecipherable to you aside from what seems like total guesses seems like a rough choice. It was very jarring to see you present cool verifiable information in one section and go "Oh um...the ambulent skulls could be human I guess moving on." In the next.
Okokok, I think it goes without saying, but HYLICS doesn’t get *nearly* enough love as it should, especially since it’s so unique, it’s a crime, really…
Surprised I didn’t see this, lol I’m the original author of the (admittedly pretty bad) initial version of The Cutting Room Floor page for this game It’s pretty cool to see the progress the community made while I was away!
I want to say THANK YOU for all the nice comments, and just for watching the video in general! I never expected a reception like this at all! I also wanted to ask, what are your thoughts about more in depth theory videos about different elements of the Hylics games? I'm thinking like each video focuses around a different character or element of the games, for example: "Who Is Wayne". Of course I'm still going to be making the 2nd iceberg video.
Yo, dude, nice video! You did a very good job analyzing the iceberg! Very well done! You know, I was planing on doing a video analyzis on one myself, and, in fact, you showed my iceberg in your video, alongside the 3rd one. What a coinsidence :D You wouldn't mind if I'll make a video explaning my own iceberg?
Yeah! Go ahead. It's interesting to see other people's interpretations of these icebergs. I'm still working on a video explaining the remaining two icebergs I showed onscreen, however, but that shouldn't stop you from analysing them if you want to.
I was in the Instagram live and I got the chat to spam Mac and cheese the whole time because I told them I was making Mac and cheese and no one can stop me
Bro, the everything is controlled by dracula theory can be true, because when we use the soul sponge in hylics 2, we see that we grant dracula's soul to the dead team mate
25:52 Well, you kinda screwed up here. I don't mean about the poolmen. Few entries back you said you won't spoil where will the Wayneduck be, yet here you show us the ending. But it's minority anyways, just noticed lol
Hey, the document for the randomly generated text which you linked in the description says that I need access, could you somehow set it so anyone with the link can see it?
You know, you say that gnoticism has nothing to do with hylics but the word it self is found in gnoticism and the way that the characters and environment presents it self fits in the definition.
I may make a video explaining how to recreate that style in future. tl;dw: it's a combination of photographing real clay letters and applying dithering effects to them.
I alway saw the Wayne’s as a way of the original one from hylics one who is probs the ancient one, to stop Gibbs forever if he comes back again and again
oops, sorry about that! I've added it into the description. (docs.google.com/document/d/1oQbfwURb3QNf9qDBebywKC52A1RET4GshCMm1n-XMig/edit?usp=drivesdk)
Sorry about this! I seem to have set up the link wrong. If there's a screen where you can request access, do so and I can let you in. I'll work on creating an accessable link though.
Huh. So it does. It seems since making this video that the legacy Ludum Dare pages may have been taken down. Try using the wayback machine if you really want to view the page.
I currently use a cheap desk mic called 'ADX Firecast Core Microphone', but for this video I actually just recorded using my phone's microphone and default recording app.
Because of how little dialogue is in the Hylics games, I'm not sure if Dedusmuln's pronouns are ever said. Considering that they're unisex, I would imagine they do go by they/them. I definitely misspoke and said 'he' in this video though. I'm pretty sure I scripted it as 'they' but I just can't speak sometimes.
Hello, as the uploader of the footage for somsnosa I do not appreciate my video being used without credit to my channel. If you could please respond to me when you can.
For anyone reading who is interested, I've added the link in the video description! Just for ease of access, I'll link it here as well: th-cam.com/video/RurwCwx6Uvo/w-d-xo.html
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28:19 i actually had a dream about hylics 2. it was a dream about secret knight characters that you can find during a segment in the game where wayne dawns some neon led-ridden knight armor. Truly astral, if you ask me.
Dedusmuln is an archeologist. He also wears medival armor and a saber. As such, he knows a lot of the world before it got clayed.
Was gonna say the same thing because in the first game he knows Paper Cups and their usages with Water Coolers are an ancient items from a bygone era
omg I didn’t know that but also dedusmuln is canonically nonbinary. They use they them in both of the games and the creator has also confirmed it
@@Cloud-lt9dvwho cares
@@Lover_of_ebrietas fake fan spotted
I dont care if the guy is on a spectrum nan keep that kink shit to yourself man i want to enjoy the GAME not your fantasies @Cloud-lt9dv
"I don't wanna talk about where the Wayneduck is because it's a spoiler"
Pongorma being from past age is implied , if not outright stated, in H2.
He says that he knew the Sages and was in search of the great power they can bestow. He was searching for wither Legend of Melting or that last power from H2
Hylics community is pretty epic, hope to see the hylicord unfrozen soon :)
Do you happen to have a link to Hylicord? I am not able to find it.
Sadly it has people that joined cause Hylics is too original rather than the actual game itself. On the first trailer for Hylics 2 I wrote "May your gland endure 1000 years" and it got ignored proving that no one played Hylics 1, no one is writing sand castles or talking randomly generated text.
it's been a year and its still not :/ at least we're getting a new hylics!
@@boopert3589 we are?
@@boopert3589 Sauce
29:24 "could this be Gibby's doing?"
No. Pongorma literally says that he has dominion over the Amublant Skulls. Why they still overrun Somsnosa's house in Hylics 2 doesn't really make sense to me, though.
you'd think he'd help her out and get rid of them for her huh
Mason’s comments about how the NPCs who were mindblasted by Gibby to speak nonsense were the “Hylics” was basically what I thought. It lines up, considering they are “reduced” physically and mentally.
The same could be said of all inhabitants of that world, as they are constantly searching for answers in the ancients knowledge and relics… which include mundane things like paper cups.
i wish there was a hylics movie, hell I'd pay all the money in the world to see it happen
SAME!
I have a sorta personal headcanon theory about Gnosticism and Hylics with the greater beliefs of it not being important more of just the idea of the word itself of a soulless being. As said by Mason the characters under Gibby’s control don’t have a purpose or much drive. The only one with that “will” is the main cast who speak with purpose and ideas. This is the same in the second game to a lesser extent. Most NPCs in even the first half of the game kinda just are letting life go by doing their job and shit. The only real creatives are Wayne and crew with their band, which Gibby despises because he wants to plung the world into meaninglessness and nothingness. A world of Hylics
Pongorma states at the end of Hylics 2 that he enjoyed his time on the planet even if it didn’t amount to anything special like the time he spent with the sages. If this is true then wouldn’t Pongorma be one of these “Hylics”?. In the first game he is sitting in his vault watching TV, presumably not doing anything important. Are the games of Hylics meant to be a sort of “call to action” for people to find a passion and do something other than becoming mindless because of what others want them to be? Is Gibby meant to represent those who wish to maximize profits instead of fueling creation? Pretty much every party member in the first game is either stuck trying to do something or is actively doing nothing. Because of this, Wayne could represent the driving force to do something better with one’s life than what they were doing.
I think that the meaning of Hylics is that falling into what others want you to be will only make you just a “meat computer”, with no real aspirations. Life is meant to be your journey, so you should be the one who decides what to do next.
The Demiurge isn't the creator god in the traditional sense. Its a being that essentially got given a bunch of unshaped matter (clay if you will) and decided to start making shit with it, having no sense of the importance of their acts either through ignorance or a desire for their own control. They didn't make the universe so much as inherited it, shaped it into something imperfect, and continue to hold it within a certain boundary of form so that it keeps the function of keeping people trapped from the rest of the universe, either in a crab bucket way or as a tyrant that can theoretically be overthrown but will always be back and will always rule, with the only way to defeat it being either to transcend beyond one's material self and thus beyond its purview, or by finding a configuration of the material world that suits the needs of humanity, depending on who you ask or what sources you read.
that is only in some variants of gnosticism
I did acid a few times and every time i see these games it just reminds me of those acid experiences so much, not sure why, but thats why i love it.
You play obscure RPGs and like hallucinogens? Dream girl status
Chuck Salamone is definitely NOT a pen name. Apparently, a high school classmate of his ended up playing Hylics, was surprised to see Chuck's name in the credits, and went to Mason's TH-cam uploads of the game's soundtrack to comment on it. He and Chuck briefly talked to each other there.
Hey i don't know if anyone else said this in the comments but i think that the dedusmuln knows one refers to the fact that he may know about what happened in the past or lived to see what happened before the actions of the game. If hylics happens after human extinction it may mean he knows that humans existed
How does he know that?
@@danielsurvivor1372Probably something to do with paper cups. Or, like op said, they somehow lived to see it?
can we take a second to appreciate the clay titles for each section
How the heck did he even do that?
Man, Hylics creator seems like such a nice guy!
Hylics is now popular enough to get an Iceberg video and meme. Damn.
25:15
I dunno if anyone has brought this up, but iirc, there’s a *barcode* on the side of the juice box. Is that what it’s referring to?
Chuck: What does the game have to do with gnoticism?
Mason: Huhh..
TH-cam: Loading...
Same for me, what's up with that?
29:30 I think I know at least one reason it's said to search with caution. There's a semi-prominent antisemetic conspiracy theory surrounding the concept of an Egregore, so it might just be "hey careful how you search this or you'll get some weird-ass youtube recommendations." Either that or it's just trying to be all creepypasta.
Oh, good to know
In that early Mason Lindroth game, the “Beta Wayne” one, he looks like a conehead. Maybe the conehead cultists are supposed to represent the type of people who glorify alpha or beta builds of games or original versions of things… Or maybe they literally worship beta Wayne?
GOODNIGHT HYLICORD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
After I played hylics I had a dream where I ran a hotel and Isabelle from animal crossing was there and she did the rayman hair thing with her ears, and then met wayne and Isabelle simped for wayne and then wayne left so I made fun of Isabelle. Then I made a series of short comics which I hate
Amazing
@@ijustlikebees I killed off Isabelle. Isabelle and Somsnosa had a super smash bros fight and Isabelle got launched into a barrel of acid, and now her ghost is a recurring villian.
@@gaminevilmushroom7571 honestly sounds fun
@@ijustlikebees I could show them to you if you want
@@gaminevilmushroom7571 okay, where?
29:53 so, egregores (at least in spiritism, my religion) are beings born of the collective thinking of people, or also the accumulation of the energy of spirits in a specific area, and the closest thing that comes to me when i think of an egregore involving wayne is that wayne sage thing on hylics 2 at the top of the wayne house.
This is really good!
I think Chairdude is a self-insert for Mason himself
So cool!!! I just love the hylics fandom
The demiurge didn't so much "create" the universe from nothing, as "carve" it out from the body of a higher God. That is gnosticism's explanation for why we can imagine ideals but only act as shadows of them, we can imagine perfection but all existing things are flaws, and why we yearn to be part of Something Greater that is entirely absent in the mostly-hollow universe. Hylics referring to the dread of being a soulless flesh automaton participating in meaningless random frantic action is completely in line with gnostic beliefs - and the abundance of meat reinforces this concept as a constant reminder that living bodies are simply physical objects.
Watch the second video in the Hylics Iceberg Trilogy here: th-cam.com/video/KLcRvKGrblQ/w-d-xo.html !! 🌙
LETS GOOOOOO
> "I haven't been able to play the second one yet, due to... hardware issues"
i feel that, man. i feel ya. i can barely get 20fps out of H2, only some battles and small rooms run at 30 or above. I've been playing it, choppy as it is, and apart from the game being even harder to control (the lowered framerate doesn't allow for on-the-dot inputs) it is still a really good game.
wow this is an underrated channel, nice work! also that ending tho
Not gonna lie. There is some cool stuff here but choosing an ice berg where 1 to 2 thirds of it is just straight made up or indecipherable to you aside from what seems like total guesses seems like a rough choice. It was very jarring to see you present cool verifiable information in one section and go "Oh um...the ambulent skulls could be human I guess moving on." In the next.
I'm so glad someone made this oh man thank you, I can't wait for the other icebergs
28:52 oh god... I remember writing that back then and I hate it. Luckily its archived and I'm not planning to update it anytime soon.
This is your iceberg?
@@SaltyRugBoy Kinda, didnt expect my old works being on here. I was cringe back then. (Edit: The bad kinda cringe, not the good kind of cringe)
@@MiniEarthmoverArielwhat's the good kind of cringe man
I think the Wayne Egregore might be in relation to Big Wayne's origin
BALLER!
Okokok, I think it goes without saying, but HYLICS doesn’t get *nearly* enough love as it should, especially since it’s so unique, it’s a crime, really…
Radical
Eboyy i played this game some months ago it was an beautiful expirience
Btw very nice video
this is really cool!!!
Surprised I didn’t see this, lol
I’m the original author of the (admittedly pretty bad) initial version of The Cutting Room Floor page for this game
It’s pretty cool to see the progress the community made while I was away!
Amazing video, Harry. Just finished Hylics 1-2 recently. Really hope you upgraded your PC so you can play it!
I want to say THANK YOU for all the nice comments, and just for watching the video in general! I never expected a reception like this at all!
I also wanted to ask, what are your thoughts about more in depth theory videos about different elements of the Hylics games? I'm thinking like each video focuses around a different character or element of the games, for example: "Who Is Wayne".
Of course I'm still going to be making the 2nd iceberg video.
A video about Wayne would definitely be interesting!
I wonder if there is a Bebder Game iceberg
Wayne is a hivemind is now canon 👍
Oh wow im not the only one still hype to play hylics 2, waiting for a new pc
I won't expoil exactly where the duck appears ...
less than a minute later:
show it
nice video btw
Yo, dude, nice video! You did a very good job analyzing the iceberg! Very well done!
You know, I was planing on doing a video analyzis on one myself, and, in fact, you showed my iceberg in your video, alongside the 3rd one. What a coinsidence :D
You wouldn't mind if I'll make a video explaning my own iceberg?
Yeah! Go ahead. It's interesting to see other people's interpretations of these icebergs. I'm still working on a video explaining the remaining two icebergs I showed onscreen, however, but that shouldn't stop you from analysing them if you want to.
juice pack code could be about the barcode on the packaging that can be seen during its animation
Honestly some of these seem very believable and I want confirmation or decomfirmation
In mason's other games come cultist are also there so... there's that
"I won't spoil where the wayne duck is" a couple seconds later shows it and the final boss...
You fucking cool dude.
Thanks a lot for video :3
I was in the Instagram live and I got the chat to spam Mac and cheese the whole time because I told them I was making Mac and cheese and no one can stop me
Bro, the everything is controlled by dracula theory can be true, because when we use the soul sponge in hylics 2, we see that we grant dracula's soul to the dead team mate
I think My profile picture says enough
25:52 Well, you kinda screwed up here. I don't mean about the poolmen. Few entries back you said you won't spoil where will the Wayneduck be, yet here you show us the ending.
But it's minority anyways, just noticed lol
Hey, the document for the randomly generated text which you linked in the description says that I need access, could you somehow set it so anyone with the link can see it?
You know, you say that gnoticism has nothing to do with hylics but the word it self is found in gnoticism and the way that the characters and environment presents it self fits in the definition.
It's not him that said it, it's the person who made the iceberg that said it
@@Baddaby It just doesn't make sense.
@@wildwolf3938 the person doing this video is not the person who made the image, the iceberg
He is just doing commentary over it.
@@Baddaby it just doesn't make sense
@@wildwolf3938lmaoo
Didn't know i needed this
This is a good video 😳
How ddi you do the deeper depths slide? With the rising clay letters?
I may make a video explaining how to recreate that style in future. tl;dw: it's a combination of photographing real clay letters and applying dithering effects to them.
@@HarryButHarry I'm pretty willing to pay to see it.
If I'm the cook at dairy queen, does that make me the burger king?
I alway saw the Wayne’s as a way of the original one from hylics one who is probs the ancient one, to stop Gibbs forever if he comes back again and again
Oh come on where is the document with the rng Text generation its not in the description
oops, sorry about that! I've added it into the description.
(docs.google.com/document/d/1oQbfwURb3QNf9qDBebywKC52A1RET4GshCMm1n-XMig/edit?usp=drivesdk)
@@HarryButHarry i know its been a few months but could i get access? ive been looking and i cant find anything like this anywhere
Is there a way to get access to the Hylics World Generator document ? When I click on the link, it says access denied
Sorry about this! I seem to have set up the link wrong. If there's a screen where you can request access, do so and I can let you in. I'll work on creating an accessable link though.
Awesome video
amazing video
The ludum dare page isnt working for me at all, it just says "404 not found"
Huh. So it does. It seems since making this video that the legacy Ludum Dare pages may have been taken down. Try using the wayback machine if you really want to view the page.
what if old Wayne is an egregore? im assuming that's what the iceberg might have meanr
25:32 SRB2Kart modding community please listen to this man's plead
Also: that would be lit
0:30 Starts
HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE 490 SUBSCRIBERS
make that 491
I thought that the Undertale and Yume Nikki fandoms were bad. This is a whole new level.
ok
What mic do you use?
I currently use a cheap desk mic called 'ADX Firecast Core Microphone', but for this video I actually just recorded using my phone's microphone and default recording app.
I miss the discord :(
wait i thought dedusmuln was a they/them pronouns user
Because of how little dialogue is in the Hylics games, I'm not sure if Dedusmuln's pronouns are ever said. Considering that they're unisex, I would imagine they do go by they/them. I definitely misspoke and said 'he' in this video though. I'm pretty sure I scripted it as 'they' but I just can't speak sometimes.
❤amazing
9:17 I am a very very cool person B)
Hobby pink sauce real
Wow you made an excellent video. I wonder how you did some of it.
I WILL NOT SPOILER YOU WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE DUCK,
30sec later shows footage of where you find the duck...
bruh
Spanish subtitules plis :(
2:23
Finally
Hello, as the uploader of the footage for somsnosa I do not appreciate my video being used without credit to my channel. If you could please respond to me when you can.
For anyone reading who is interested, I've added the link in the video description!
Just for ease of access, I'll link it here as well:
th-cam.com/video/RurwCwx6Uvo/w-d-xo.html
you *do* realise that unisex people exist right?