WA can't do same DMG as Alfa without V1 (Based on what I tested but I'll test more to see and maybe make video). So how exactly this is f2p when I need dupe my limited unit to be good as normal ones?
My V0 Suomi is carrying me hard in this game, even in tierlist they are ranked based in V0 (no dupes), i low spend in this game by getting my montly gem income and battlepass golden weapon, so i can equip all my V0 SSR units with a nice weapon each month, the game gives plenty of resources to summon for a new SSR each month even as a F2P u get about 8-9K gems each month so the game is pretty generous u can get all your favorite characters and if u skip a couple of banners u can even go for Dupes of the ones u like the most like Klukai or Belka, but at the end of they day the most important thing in this game is to collect ur Dolls, this is a Waifu Collector Gacha Game after all lol, the Dorm system will be expanded in the future, in china they already released a trailer with new 3D features in the dorm, and u just need the Character Once in order to have her in there, so... getting dupes isnt that important i believe, since the game is pretty easy i almost cleared all content, im struggling a litte with the weekly boss encounter stage 8 but i know in a couple weeks i will beat it and keep pushing content and that makes me happy, this is a fantastic game lol, and i cannot consider dupes to be that important, they are just great if u like play with that unit a lot.
And the leader of the #1 platoon on my server has the 5 recent banner units V6’d already…. Ulrid, Suomi, Tololo, Makiatto. At this point there should be two separate leaderboards. Leviathans/Whales and normal people.
Most of tactical/ strategy gatcha are PTW, a lot of them are predatory PTW. Its good already if you can finish every event without paying for stamina, crystals, event currency ect.
Yup, as a f2p player what I care about is just to finish an event story, main story and etc... Bcs if i want competition then there is moba or fps game
As far as I've seen, the pay to win stuff is only worth it for ranked PVP. A mode where your only high ranking reward is bragging rights. You get the actual valuable stuff from just joining a match, not even winning. The way I see it, it's more like Pay to Bore yourself. Because the only true value in the store comes from the cosmetics you buy.
@@J374338 Boss be like: Ima pull my big defense and damage reducing effect on ya and I don't care I'm 20% HP left now you deal 80% less DMG and much more
@@userpcivan 😂😭 pls noooo~~ This reminds me that I couldn't get Suomi and so did not manage to get the last 10 pieces for V6 Lotta 😭😭😭 I was stuck with the event Hazard 6 boss Keeps healing and up def and summon 4 minions.... But the when I got Makiatto it become easy during the event Story last stage 😶 maybe developer Mica nerf it for us? 👍👌
Imo most popular gacha games treat both F2P and P2W really well in their own way and this is no different.They make the game beatable and giving reasonable amount of ingame reward distribution for F2P while still allowed options for P2W to power through the game. Almost if not all gacha games are games with long progression and these progression will always have a end to it, everyone will eventually beat every content of the game both as a F2P and P2W. Paying is still remained as an option, not only the boost you got worth the money you spent but the game also try to not allowed the boost affecting much on others. For this game they literally only giving some cosmetics as rewards for pvp, you could get ingame resources just by participating.
the 5 dollar ring in the shop that provides 5% stats to a nikke is "The P2W" thing in this game, everything else can be achieved as a F2Poor just by saving a couple of months and focusing on the units u like the most, and the weapons u can just use the regular SSR weapons from the regular banner or shop they have high base attack values and is more than enough to take down bosses, and again... achievable by being a F2Poor and if u r capable to spend 10dlls each 1.5 months u can get a SSR weapon from the BattlePass, a great investment if u dont want to waste resources in weapon gacha.
the only place where the p2w aspects of this game can be a bit of a necesity is on the pvp side of the game, and its only to get a bunch of vanity stuff like a title, otherwise the game can be done entirelly f2p, there is a person who is doing the game by not engaging with the gacha side of the game and only playing with the characters what are given for free, and so far managed to clear most stuff, perhaps requiring a bit of effort on some stages, but anyway, you can clear almost everithing with the basic version of each character without needing to spend extra on getting their better versions
Of course its pay to win bro LOL All these games that require dupes are pay to win. Sure you play for ten years and maybe max someone out, but thats their strategy. All gacha games strategy. More money, more stars, more power.
@9knz90 this yes some T dills do get a lot more powerful at V6 but a big chunk of them are great at V0-V1. And just like any Gaccha game you can find people able to clear most content with low rarity characters.
@@Spooks1.2 The reward for the leaderboard is just a bunch of cosmetics either way. Yes you will have a way harder time to reach the leaderboard as a F2P, but seriously tho why do F2P even wanted to get to leaderboard when you can have full ingame resources just from participating. As for unranked PvP, most people just gonna put lv 1 doll as def until you get out of expert rank ( idk if people still doing it after that tho )
I prefer when dupes don't change their character's base kit, bc it feels like you're pulling for a character with an incomplete kit. What I don't mind are raw stats boosts, like for example increasing the amount of turns a buff lasts, or increasing the multiplier of a damage skill by x%. Or they could just straight up be like +x% atk to your base stats. I don't like the way most dupes works in this game, but whether game is F2P or P2W depends on your definition of those terms. Is it F2P as in easy to obtain all characters? Or F2P as in all contents can be cleared with free/welfare units and easily accessible gear? So sure, dupes are extremely powerful in this game, but are they necessary? From personal experience, I'd say no. But are dupes very hard to get? Yea, you need to whale for those. Can all content be cleared with free/welfare? I doubt it. If it's possible, it's probably either difficult or need a high amount of investment. But most importantly, can the average player (depending on what average means) clear most content? The answer is yes
It's not p2w. It's paying to make the game easier. There're players out there already cleared all contents including 3 crossroad challenges being completely f2p. So, you can get every reward in the game without paying a single penny. The only place where power difference matters is ranked PvP, but the reward for high ranking (if you think top 50% is high lol) are just cosmetics. Though, I don't downplay the value of some initial investments. They provide a good headstart, and trying too hard as f2p may lead to burnout.
I don’t get it, I have all the units without dupes, and I cleared all normal content, hard content, level 47, and beaten all other simulation game modes im battling enemies over lvl 55-60 and im doing just fine lol the only thing I don’t play is PVP I never PvP in any game I’m not that of a try hard lol I’m here for the Waifus and feet. Gotta catch em all! I want them all in my dorm and smell feet. This games do not require Dupes to progress ur account. So I don’t get ur rant 😅
CCs will always say get V1 T-Dolls. I mean let's be real Vector giving debuff on V1 is great (if not mistaken easy to trigger) and she also is sub DPS. Is It worth getting V1? Yes and no. As said Alfa Vs WA Alfa V0 is stronger than WA V0 and not really worth if you want DPS. Zha also regen more hp which is super great and can make great plays with one more arrow. It feels V1 is always needed or you missing a lot. Same for Suomi V1 there is boss with huge aoe and you can't really hide T-Dolls since there is not a lot of cover and he does huge aoe. Good thing I had friend DPS since I couldn't beat it with my team. Also if people don't have QBZ or Alfa they will need get them by selector or get limited units.
Do play PvP, you get a good amount of crystals. Look for easy teams in Training exercise, you get no reward for successfully defending. And throw your matches in Ranked, you get the rewards by just participating.
As long as you have QBZ & Alfa it shouldnt be issue but again if people dont have it they must go for limited units and as said in my other video WA V0 isnt better than Alfa V0. Same for some else units and even when you read Vector she is sub dps but her V1 is crazy good to just pass by if you have follow up team since now You dont need Verp 12 and deal more dmg to enemy. Is it p2w? Yes and No it depends who you ask. People who have QBZ & Alfa They dont need V1 for limited units too much but ones who have someone like Mosin Nagant sure will see dps increase by getting V1 T-Dolls. V1 WA is just too good to not get and other T-Dolls. 80 Crit dmg and 100 crit rate on her second attack is just too good to not right? And take in mind Suomi also do weakness always for her. Alfa need Spas 12 for it but will everyone have her? yes after 2 months but again till then you already could get better dps unit. QBZ also needs Ullrid to work best which most of people dont have and she also need 1 star to deal more dmg which is great but not needed so much if you are f2p but its good if you get it. Idk every single character seems to be too good for V1 always its not like you need 2 stars for some crazy its always 1 star.
depends on which hoyo game as well genshin is unironically balanced you can still clear with old units honkai3 is like powercreep deluxe hsr is going very fast with metas idk bout zzz not knowleageable enough to give a verdict on it
Me: gameplay? Not really, I mean yah you will clear easier with Suomi's shield and other 5star skills But you still can manage it Dorm? YES! 😂😂😂 You get to see dorky Suomi bobbing to music, IN SWIMSUIT (fans imagine is it heavy metal 🤣) and Makiatto hugging you when watching horror video
WA can't do same DMG as Alfa without V1 (Based on what I tested but I'll test more to see and maybe make video).
So how exactly this is f2p when I need dupe my limited unit to be good as normal ones?
My V0 Suomi is carrying me hard in this game, even in tierlist they are ranked based in V0 (no dupes), i low spend in this game by getting my montly gem income and battlepass golden weapon, so i can equip all my V0 SSR units with a nice weapon each month, the game gives plenty of resources to summon for a new SSR each month even as a F2P u get about 8-9K gems each month so the game is pretty generous u can get all your favorite characters and if u skip a couple of banners u can even go for Dupes of the ones u like the most like Klukai or Belka, but at the end of they day the most important thing in this game is to collect ur Dolls, this is a Waifu Collector Gacha Game after all lol, the Dorm system will be expanded in the future, in china they already released a trailer with new 3D features in the dorm, and u just need the Character Once in order to have her in there, so... getting dupes isnt that important i believe, since the game is pretty easy i almost cleared all content, im struggling a litte with the weekly boss encounter stage 8 but i know in a couple weeks i will beat it and keep pushing content and that makes me happy, this is a fantastic game lol, and i cannot consider dupes to be that important, they are just great if u like play with that unit a lot.
I did the math and in order to V6R1 a limited unit, you need to save for 6-7 months.
And the leader of the #1 platoon on my server has the 5 recent banner units V6’d already…. Ulrid, Suomi, Tololo, Makiatto. At this point there should be two separate leaderboards. Leviathans/Whales and normal people.
@@kojo2773 thx for the reference 👍😌🫡
Most of tactical/ strategy gatcha are PTW, a lot of them are predatory PTW.
Its good already if you can finish every event without paying for stamina, crystals, event currency ect.
Yup, as a f2p player what I care about is just to finish an event story, main story and etc... Bcs if i want competition then there is moba or fps game
As far as I've seen, the pay to win stuff is only worth it for ranked PVP. A mode where your only high ranking reward is bragging rights. You get the actual valuable stuff from just joining a match, not even winning.
The way I see it, it's more like Pay to Bore yourself. Because the only true value in the store comes from the cosmetics you buy.
Wait LV 50 or Tier 6 (Boss fight) without team.
@@userpcivan 😂 pls don't scare me, I hope I can manage it somehow with my dolphin spending 👌😶
@@J374338 Boss be like:
Ima pull my big defense and damage reducing effect on ya and I don't care I'm 20% HP left now you deal 80% less DMG and much more
@@userpcivan 😂😭 pls noooo~~
This reminds me that I couldn't get Suomi and so did not manage to get the last 10 pieces for V6 Lotta 😭😭😭
I was stuck with the event Hazard 6 boss
Keeps healing and up def and summon 4 minions.... But the when I got Makiatto it become easy during the event Story last stage 😶 maybe developer Mica nerf it for us? 👍👌
@J374338 we ain't in challenge yet that's easy stage
Imo most popular gacha games treat both F2P and P2W really well in their own way and this is no different.They make the game beatable and giving reasonable amount of ingame reward distribution for F2P while still allowed options for P2W to power through the game. Almost if not all gacha games are games with long progression and these progression will always have a end to it, everyone will eventually beat every content of the game both as a F2P and P2W. Paying is still remained as an option, not only the boost you got worth the money you spent but the game also try to not allowed the boost affecting much on others. For this game they literally only giving some cosmetics as rewards for pvp, you could get ingame resources just by participating.
the 5 dollar ring in the shop that provides 5% stats to a nikke is "The P2W" thing in this game, everything else can be achieved as a F2Poor just by saving a couple of months and focusing on the units u like the most, and the weapons u can just use the regular SSR weapons from the regular banner or shop they have high base attack values and is more than enough to take down bosses, and again... achievable by being a F2Poor and if u r capable to spend 10dlls each 1.5 months u can get a SSR weapon from the BattlePass, a great investment if u dont want to waste resources in weapon gacha.
Only suckers use the ring for anything other than sentimental value.
They pay to make the game boring lol
the only place where the p2w aspects of this game can be a bit of a necesity is on the pvp side of the game, and its only to get a bunch of vanity stuff like a title, otherwise the game can be done entirelly f2p, there is a person who is doing the game by not engaging with the gacha side of the game and only playing with the characters what are given for free, and so far managed to clear most stuff, perhaps requiring a bit of effort on some stages, but anyway, you can clear almost everithing with the basic version of each character without needing to spend extra on getting their better versions
Of course its pay to win bro LOL All these games that require dupes are pay to win. Sure you play for ten years and maybe max someone out, but thats their strategy. All gacha games strategy. More money, more stars, more power.
Kinda feels awful since I rather have more T-Dolls than 1 star and stay locked in one team since later we will need more T-Dolls anyway to use.
@@userpcivan Ngl that is totally fine cuz the game still beatable even without dupes
@9knz90 this yes some T dills do get a lot more powerful at V6 but a big chunk of them are great at V0-V1. And just like any Gaccha game you can find people able to clear most content with low rarity characters.
@@9knz90it’s not about clearing content, content is easy. It’s about climbing the leaderboards.
@@Spooks1.2 The reward for the leaderboard is just a bunch of cosmetics either way. Yes you will have a way harder time to reach the leaderboard as a F2P, but seriously tho why do F2P even wanted to get to leaderboard when you can have full ingame resources just from participating. As for unranked PvP, most people just gonna put lv 1 doll as def until you get out of expert rank ( idk if people still doing it after that tho )
All gachas are p2w. No exceptions.
Yes, yes it is.
I prefer when dupes don't change their character's base kit, bc it feels like you're pulling for a character with an incomplete kit. What I don't mind are raw stats boosts, like for example increasing the amount of turns a buff lasts, or increasing the multiplier of a damage skill by x%. Or they could just straight up be like +x% atk to your base stats.
I don't like the way most dupes works in this game, but whether game is F2P or P2W depends on your definition of those terms. Is it F2P as in easy to obtain all characters? Or F2P as in all contents can be cleared with free/welfare units and easily accessible gear? So sure, dupes are extremely powerful in this game, but are they necessary? From personal experience, I'd say no. But are dupes very hard to get? Yea, you need to whale for those. Can all content be cleared with free/welfare? I doubt it. If it's possible, it's probably either difficult or need a high amount of investment. But most importantly, can the average player (depending on what average means) clear most content? The answer is yes
Its not really p2w but boi.. those skins can lead me into bad financial decisions...
It's not p2w. It's paying to make the game easier. There're players out there already cleared all contents including 3 crossroad challenges being completely f2p. So, you can get every reward in the game without paying a single penny. The only place where power difference matters is ranked PvP, but the reward for high ranking (if you think top 50% is high lol) are just cosmetics. Though, I don't downplay the value of some initial investments. They provide a good headstart, and trying too hard as f2p may lead to burnout.
the ranking is obviously p2w.
but the game without the military sim is pretty much f2p friendly. just dont feel bad losing on military sim
I don’t get it, I have all the units without dupes, and I cleared all normal content, hard content, level 47, and beaten all other simulation game modes im battling enemies over lvl 55-60 and im doing just fine lol the only thing I don’t play is PVP I never PvP in any game I’m not that of a try hard lol I’m here for the Waifus and feet. Gotta catch em all! I want them all in my dorm and smell feet. This games do not require Dupes to progress ur account. So I don’t get ur rant 😅
CCs will always say get V1 T-Dolls.
I mean let's be real Vector giving debuff on V1 is great (if not mistaken easy to trigger) and she also is sub DPS.
Is It worth getting V1? Yes and no.
As said Alfa Vs WA Alfa V0 is stronger than WA V0 and not really worth if you want DPS.
Zha also regen more hp which is super great and can make great plays with one more arrow.
It feels V1 is always needed or you missing a lot.
Same for Suomi V1 there is boss with huge aoe and you can't really hide T-Dolls since there is not a lot of cover and he does huge aoe.
Good thing I had friend DPS since I couldn't beat it with my team.
Also if people don't have QBZ or Alfa they will need get them by selector or get limited units.
Do play PvP, you get a good amount of crystals.
Look for easy teams in Training exercise, you get no reward for successfully defending. And throw your matches in Ranked, you get the rewards by just participating.
Hope the GFL2 p2w is not worse than hoyo.
As long as you have QBZ & Alfa it shouldnt be issue but again if people dont have it they must go for limited units and as said in my other video WA V0 isnt better than Alfa V0.
Same for some else units and even when you read Vector she is sub dps but her V1 is crazy good to just pass by if you have follow up team since now You dont need Verp 12 and deal more dmg to enemy.
Is it p2w? Yes and No it depends who you ask.
People who have QBZ & Alfa They dont need V1 for limited units too much but ones who have someone like Mosin Nagant sure will see dps increase by getting V1 T-Dolls.
V1 WA is just too good to not get and other T-Dolls.
80 Crit dmg and 100 crit rate on her second attack is just too good to not right?
And take in mind Suomi also do weakness always for her.
Alfa need Spas 12 for it but will everyone have her? yes after 2 months but again till then you already could get better dps unit.
QBZ also needs Ullrid to work best which most of people dont have and she also need 1 star to deal more dmg which is great but not needed so much if you are f2p but its good if you get it.
Idk every single character seems to be too good for V1 always its not like you need 2 stars for some crazy its always 1 star.
depends on which hoyo game as well genshin is unironically balanced you can still clear with old units honkai3 is like powercreep deluxe hsr is going very fast with metas
idk bout zzz not knowleageable enough to give a verdict on it
If u do that drill pvp yeah that pvp was shet go there just to lose 20 time for reward only
Me: gameplay? Not really, I mean yah you will clear easier with Suomi's shield and other 5star skills
But you still can manage it
Dorm? YES! 😂😂😂 You get to see dorky Suomi bobbing to music, IN SWIMSUIT (fans imagine is it heavy metal 🤣)
and Makiatto hugging you when watching horror video
it HAS to be heavy metal, i mean.. finnish is kind of land of heavy metal
@nanotsuki and cute girl on heavy metal is something exclusive in anime 🤣 (the fuwa fuwa/fluffy atmosphere like K-on) or Asobi Asobase style 🤣🤣🤣
its a gacha of course its pay 2 win what did you expect
This shjt is pay to goon
Bro its a gacha for a reason ofcourse its pay2win lol.