Largest Ram Pump in the World
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2017
- With an inlet of 500mm and scalable, this really is the largest ram pump in the world - and it delivers large amounts of water to higher elevations or over long distances - all without the use of electricity, petrol or diesel.
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It was quieter than I expected for such a large scale ram pump.
Oh cool, bigclive... love your videos! This Video here from 2017, just got this in my recommendation feed. I guess same story over there on the isle of man?
@@aamagg Part of TH-cam's algorithm is to recommend videos watched by channels you view. Sometimes I pursue a particular subject and everyone gets recommended that subject.
A delightful tick tock almost
Hi Big Clive!! Exactly what I was thinking also.
It would be nice if they showed some internals.
The pulse rate is very high for a ram pump so I suspect it is built quite differently, it seems to not use a slam valve so maybe it has a rotating valve or something that does not have to bring the input flow to a complete stop before it is able to open. In that way it might actually mirror an electrical boost converter more closely than a regular ram pump.
My left ear enjoyed the introduction to the video.
I thought I was having a stroke. I had both my earbuds in, heard nothing on my right side. Then I saw your comment and called off the ambulance.
I'm kidding, but glad I wasn't the only one!
@@admcstabby called of the ambulance lmao
Interesting. The farm my mother grew up on had a ram pump. They used it until the growth of the nearby city caused the water table to fall.
How does this pump work genius? The water table hasn't been affecting any of the rivers near me.
@@marcknab7456 Hey fuck nuts why do always respond to 5 year old comments, assume the water source is a river as it is not shown in the video, and Not stop to think why after five years an 71 likes why your the only one that would have a problem with comment but instead embarrass yourself by not thinking?
It ran off a spring numb nuts.
Am from Kenya and your technology is so so great! Welcome to Kenya! Please connect Ram pump to ewaso nyiro river in magadi kenya. The maasai use it as their main water source for themselves and their cattle. The Masai woman trek for miles in hot weather condition to collect water. If you can pump water in elevated storage tank which create water pressure, then connect pipes to Masai villages (manyatta). Not only will it have an impact in environment, but also brighten the future of a maasai woman, that leave her with a smile.
It's not that hard to build a smaller pump that will work all day and night to fill up at a longer distance. Just check out some YT vids and go get some pipe and tube supplies. I'm sure those exist over there as well.
As Burken Productions says, it's not difficult to make yourself. The main problem is you need at least a small drop to get enough flow to generate a strong enough pulse to send water uphill. If you live near some rapids it gets economical to do that, as your thick feed pipe can be shorter for the same height.
A Manchester UK company was supplying ram pumps to parts of Africa 100 years ago. Most worked well for a generation without the need for maintenance.
I think the company was Vulcan. Had one at our mill in Tipperary and there were vast numbers sent out to the colonies. Only problem was when the river was in flood, one had a brown bath. Should have had filtration system on the delivery end.
This would be really useful for a water-balanced cliff railway where the water source is at the bottom of the incline. It would definitely save on electricity or fuel bills!
Definitely a interesting and viable use!
Nice one. very sustainable and environmental friendly. will try this back in my village at the heart of tsavo ,taita taveta KENYA.
Take a look at our Papa pumps for smaller applications like this. www.waterpoweredtechnologies.com/papa-pump/
Yet another option for me to consider for the micro hydro plant I plan to build on my property, once I get some with lots of running water.
By all means get in touch, we'd love to help :) our contact details are on our website www.waterpoweredtechnologies.com/
Finally a good youtube recomendation. I don't think I'll be interested in getting a ram pump system of any sort in the foreseeable future, but they are sure cool and a great concept for places in development.
Best of lucks with this development, great video too.
Ôh YES YES YES
If you move to the sticks, you'll change your mind. Imagine watering yer crops and running your own hydro electrics works completely off the grid. You'll be truly self-sufficient. I think that sounds like a great way of reducing the cost of living _and_ (perhaps ironically) your impact on nature.
Still awesome, excited to see their first commercial install
I'm encouraged by this video, nice work. I have a river running through my property in the Far East and I hope to install ram pumps for irrigation. If I have sufficient fall, I might install one ram pump below another, By ducting the 'waste' water discharged by the higher pump, into the supply to the lower unit and with clever sluicing, I could get more output from the lower unit than the higher one.
Before my time but Dartington Hall used to have a ram pump that brought water up from the river. Apparently according to my father that grew up there (his father was the estates farm manager) that thing gave a real loud slow thud you could feel.
Brilliant!
All the best.
As a kid my grandfather had a pamphlet about a Seattle pump station that had two 16" drive line ramp pumps working on the same delivery line to pump 500k gallons a day. the drive head was 50ft and the delivery line was 100ft. there was a picture of a guy standing in front of these monsters. I wish i still had the picture. the water source was the Cedar river
Would be good to see those old beauties.
Still smaller than the smallest of our Venturo pumps though!
And with that head and delivery the pump in the video could achieve over 1,425,400 gallons a day! From 1 pump!
@@Waterpoweredtechnologies as far as production definitely smaller, but the man in the picture was dwarfed by the 20ft tall bladders
This is amazing technology and definitely the key towards clean and cheap power.
Thank you for your comment :D
Hey . . . anyone knows why nobody uses this rap pump technology to generate power ❓❓
@@JohnKickboxing ancient pyramids
@Miroslav Kašpar Ram pump is also kinetic, involving the air movement. 👌
@Miroslav Kašpar Sea power plant is too much expensive and inefficient.
Completely simple and mechanical. Nice
great for remote area. im geting a bell type pump.how much psi or gallons for second.
The diameter of pressure tank is so large to withstand high pressure produced by the pump, or it will be swelled up. How is the max pressure you recomend for that pressure tank? Or how high the maximum target did you ever test the pump?
hoover dam could use some of these right now to ram pump discharged water and increase the efficiency of power generation
You could actually use this in line from a dam. Solar on this scale would be more expansive in maintenance etc.
Nice work
i absolutely love this
This will not work on just any lake, river, or body of water. Location is key. You need sufficient kinetic energy from the water to power a ram pump...the height and/or distance you desire the water to travel is totally dependent on the amount of kinetic energy that is available and captured.
Yes! Early data suggest ram pumps can push up 7ft for every feet of head. So if your ram pump have 7ft of head you can still expect water up 48ft to 49ft.
@@MmeHyraelle Thanks for the input. Could you define what you mean by 'head'? Is that the elevation difference or drop of the feed, or input? or something else? And wouldn't the volume and flow rates be a variable too?
@@jeffw8057 tatcical dot.
Nerd
@@chestfarter4207 Thanks for the compliment!
pretty cool . how do you handle the pump overflow ? with a pool to keep the overage in the system flow ? I have to wonder how up scaleable this will be pipe diameter wise ?
Hello, These pumps are designed to be used on a flowing water source such as a river so the overflow is directed back to the original water course just at a lower point than it's intake. These Venturo pumps are fully scalable and are custom designed and made to suit the application, the pump in the video is DN500 intake pipe but we have also tested a DN1000 Intake version too
Aweesome Engineering!!
This is wonderful Technology available to all... we can see a use all around for Water Systems...
This here is a incredible Testimony of engineering , Good work Team...
Incredible..as is the Grand Coulee Dam in Washington state...changes how water can be applied to Development..
Hoover dam is another example.. but what about Stanley Myers invention of converted Water into Hydrogen gas and then running it through a internal combustion engine!... exhaust would be o2 and h2o...a cup a tea anyone??
The best thing about ram pumps is that you can build your own rather easily using PVC pipe and some bike tire inner-tubes. WranglerStar has some videos that explain the concept fairly well, and I'm sure there are lots of text sources online. Just do yourself a favor and take everything you read with a grain of salt. Don't believe anything a single source says without cross-referencing it with other sources. If enough sources say the same thing, you're probably on to something. I know it sucks to have to do that, but you have to be like that to get good info off the 'net. It's the only way to avoid chasing your own tail.
The kind of nerd I like to talk to with a cup of tea
Awesome!
Marvellous how the ram pump works. No energy needed 👍👍👍
Or at least no oil, gas, coal or nuclear power needed. I think if more farmsteads implemented measures like these, it could cut CO2 emissions quite substantially. Hell, imagine fitting the water supply of an entire city with micro hydropower units wherever there's a surplus rate of flow strong enough. I think that could cut electricity costs like _a lot_ across urban areas.
@@kebman they could do that, supply towns and cities using the ram pump method, I assume if it’s possible geographically . But it’s not in the interest of the big companies
@Miroslav Kašpar true of course. When I say energy, I mean fossil fuels or electricity 👍
Impressive size Ram pump
Awesome dude 😲😲😁😁🤘🤘
does the flow of the input determine the pressure and capacity? Curious if this would work in a slow moving creek
answers: yes; and NOPE.!!!!
Amazing
Now you need to connect that water supply to an electric generator and voila... World energy crisis solved :)
Hello everyone..
In the name of all humanity Congratulations and thank you very much for this excellent job
Clickbait title - in what way is this related to male goat's farts?
There is a great analogy between this and a switched mode power supply.
Nice
I shiver to think what the people that gave this video a thumbs down we're thinking.
Probably they don't understand physics.
@Water Powered Technologies Any updates on this project?
Currently looking to have one installed on an elephant reserve in Africa next year. once its there we'll have more updates :)
The water supply I want to pump from is over two meters in depth If I secured my Ram Pump at the bottom under two Meters of water am I correct I wouldn't need to add extra height to the Inlet side of the Ram Pump because the pump already has two meters of water over it?? My water depth is always at this two-meter ++ depth.
I'm hoping you'll answer this question.
Efficiency compared to generating electricity to run a pump, or having two impellers, on large being driven by high volume water, and one smaller pumping water at high pressure?
I don't know for sure, but I bet it's more efficient, since there are no large moving parts which add additional friction. The only losses in this method are in friction between the water and the piping, and in the power needed to exert enough force to open the check valve on the output. Plus, this pump will hold water from flowing backwards when it's off.
Indeed it is a beast. Do you have suppliers in Uganda and where exactly. Send me a direct message please
This was used in Rural United states 100 years ago... the remnants are in the river which supplied a victorian house 100 feet above the river about 2 miles from my parents place.
What is prices of the two sizes , I know its depending on my land situation , but please give the average price of your previous projects ,
You can build one quite easily from pvc pipe, then scale it to your needs.
impressive
This invention seems amusing.
Do you have branches or address in any country in Africa? I want to contact you.
Do you can give me your design of ram pump. Thank you.
If you're interested in power generation, just use the flow from the conduit directly. Ram pumps are awesome, a long way from 1796 but not that far.
and, this comment was relevant, HOW? the 'main selling point' was RAISING WATER. googletranslate
@@daviddavids2884 Certainly yes! to overcome gravity and raise the water level for irrigation etc and unattended operation, ram pump is an awesome tool. but the speaker mentioned 'power generation' now that's less than ideal due to the energy lostin pushing the water uphill in the first place. a small direct turbine with the same fall would be far more efficient.
@@fastst1 yes. it was mentioned. emphasis on 'mentioned'. in other words, of secondary significance. cheers
With a sensor attached solar panel a wireless connection to report on status of pump in case its out in middle of nowhere and could then call for maintenance
I would love to know the maximum distance and elevation if possible. Last but not the least, are you guys still in business and where is this product in use?
It can pump to about 230m elevation at a distance of 50km
Thanks for the reply.
My left ear enjoyed this.
yes, sorry about that! Obviously got some work to do in acoustic production!
Brilliant 🇦🇺👍
Looks expensive yet worth every penny.
C un bon travail
What is the purpose of the pneumatic air lines? Does it require compressed air to run?
nope, they're part of the automatic control, see our Sureflow valve to see how it works :)
What is the efficiency in terms of the potential energy lost of the total flow and the potential energy delivered to the flow at the feed point? how does this compare to the energy efficiency of a water turbine generator ( I would guess about 40%)
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Dam boy,you smart 😁👍🍻
Does it have effects to the water discharge when the water source is like a calm river?
As long as there is a sufficient supply head there should be no issues.
@@Waterpoweredtechnologies very much appreciated ma'am/sir
Sounds like a heart
Gotta love the algo
I would love to see this coupled with hydro power, would make it the ultimate off grid power solution for someone's property in the middle of nowhere
Om inter3sted to know jow to be able to access your technoloy to build one for our agri project here in the Island of Mindanao,Philippines.
@@neilabejuela7585 please email us at info@wptglobal.net
GD, please is it this pump able for suction the water from deep well 200m? As I know the pump head pressure is 15m only Your answer very important for me
No, a ram pump has to have water flowing downhill for it to capture energy from. The energy from that large flow of water is used to push a small flow uphill
Why is it not possible to put this pump into a closed loop system and continually pump water to the top of a hydro generator for a positive yeilding electrical system?
Rad idea, if this pump can pump a column of water high enough in excess volume , a Pelton wheel could generate electricity and recover the same water to its place of origin without consuming any water (possibly returning the water diverted for electricty upstream of the ram pump inlet). The art of power recovery systems will come to mainstream commerce soon. The ideology is alive and well...
However, If one was to close the loop into a cycle one has to add filtration, pumps and storage to the $ystem. With the water cycle closed to new energy input the ram pump would then be useless and external energy would be requiered making this just silly from design. If one lets the ram pump's "waste" water flow down stream to another identical power system, then you could have a chain of these said generators on one stream and link them together to raise voltage for transfer, charging and distribution to be used locally.
why...have you asked such a silly question, gav.
if you would take FIVE MINUTES, and do the s-word -- STUDY --- ram pumps, you would then Know their limitations.!!!! cheers
every hear of wikipedia or brittanica
Impressive, but I believe the Great Pyramid is the largest ram pump in the world.
I have a question please which is : is there Ram pumps designed to pump from a 100m high to a higher one ?
if a I want to use ram pump to pump from 5 m to 1 m to rise the pressure of the water source I have how can I then collect the flow rate on the deliver pipe ?
because refering back to the equation D= 0.66*Q*F/E I will be having D bigger than Q and this is not logical :-/ ...
and in this case if I would to collect the pressure on the deliver pipe theoretically using equation ..
how can I do this please ?...
is there any reference can help me with this please ?
please send is full details of what you want to do by filling in form on our website papapump.com/contact-us/
youtube: here you go you might like ramp pumps !
Have you compared this with using a small pump in combination with PV solar power and additional a battery?
have you compared...the size of your brain to a mouse turd.?
Huge ram pump , has tall can it rice whater? No mater is few liter pero minute
Can these pumps be submersible, for instance place them in a body of water lower than the intake pipe?
In a word .No.
good....can papa pump drawing water from well..
❤Super❤
How does the pump work?
Please see our website: www.waterpoweredtechnologies.com/venturo-how-it-works/
How would this compare to a setup where a continuous rotational high volume / low pressure pump (acting as a water wheel) is directly shafted to a low volume / high pressure pump?
Hello, please email us at info@wptglobal.net
less moving mechanic part would be equal to greater efficiency.. apart from the design
Awesome but video was too short
They recently found out that the Egyptian Pyramids feature this pump inside. They assume they pumped water up from the Nile to transport the blocks.
How much for a set up like this
These Venturo Pumps are custom made to order so pricing is dependent on project. Please email us if you have a project in mind info@wptglobal.net
How much is the price?, what is the cost? I am from Colombia, and I do appreciate get in touch the person you provided with this pump. Thanks.
We manufacturer this pump, feel free to contact us at info@wptglobal.net
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How much would this cost if I wanted to buy one ?
A que altura y distancia bombea ,podría cotizar, soy del Perú
I like it sir i want to lerned how to make it.
How many percent of the water can be pumped up?
Volumetric efficiency is up to 30% depending on supply and delivery head
Sounds like a hear beat ;)
How much do they cost, and how many GPH do they push, and how high ?, I'm really interested
The venturo will only be for sale as part of a system and is currently undergoing trials. However we are looking for partners in the delevelopment. The amount of water you can deliver depends on supply flow and supply head. We have pump performance charts available on our website www.waterpoweredtechnologies.com
Water Powered Technologies , I appreciate your info, and I wil check your web page, it has to be interesting.
Wow. Does it work in cold place like in Himalayan region.
Not sure how well this technology will work in dry climates like Kenya. You need a large amount of moving water to pump a small amount of water a short to moderate distance depending on the hydraulics of the discharge piping.
We actually have a large system in Kenya with 2 of these Venturos planned to be in by the end of 2022 so watch this space
Do u no de wae to uganda?
How much does a pump like that cost?
This is very interesting for the reason that it sounds like free energy. Hydro power was mentioned, which is quite a call. In theory if this could push water up hill, you wouldn't need to worry about energy again. I have a feeling that this is not the case.
It’s not free energy because it requires flowing water. Which is not in endless supply.
Hello Martin, this is in no way free energy, the energy used to pump water comes from the water you see being exhausted back into the water course
This makes it a zero fuel, zero electricity and sustainable way to pump water
Crikey that's a big ram pump
THANKS. that is one of The most intelligent comments that i have seen, so far. and, i am gonna now, bail on the silliness. cheers
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Is the overflow not flowing away the soil underneath the pump
Nope, back into the original water course, in this case a stream
@@Waterpoweredtechnologies okay was not expecting an answer so quickly nice
It's just a shame this tis pump is completely useless were I live
I live in holland no elevation
The highest river here is 44 meter above see level and that >100 km inland
@@Thefreakyfreek that is unfortunate, we do have some friends in Holland who do make Archimedes pumps which are currently on of the best solutions there for now.
What is the prize of this water pumb
fine.
Good one there especially for the production of small scale electricity for a household
Ramb pump pumped hydro? Is that basically using a ram pump to pump water above a South-East Yugoslavian or Romanian style turbine and generator, to provide free energy 24/7?
I think it probably is the largest... though i know where there is an abandoned one, at least 80 years old, that in physical size is not far off this. No idea about flow rates. It sadly had the impulse valve missing.
They did use to make some rather large ones, however they were nowhere near as efficient as ours ;)
@@Waterpoweredtechnologies Is it true that the larger the pump, the more efficient it can get?
@@kaloryfer99999 No, efficiency depends on supply head, the more supply head the more efficient the pump can be. Energy efficiency of our pumps is typically about 85% and volumetric efficiency can get as high as 30%
@@Waterpoweredtechnologies Can the head be substituted with pressure? Let's say, by a pump? I know this is not practical, but I'm curious about the technicals.
@@kaloryfer99999 Yes technically, as long as there is lower pressure at the exhaust point then the input the pump will operate (other factors need to be considered but that's the basics)
Where can I purchase this pump? I am in UK.
Please see our website: www.waterpoweredtechnologies.com/
How much the cost to create this rampump
More than most who would need it the most could afford to ever pay.
I know how a ram pump works, but I'd like to see how this pump works. 0:30 what are the pair of 3-way pneumatic valves for? what is their energy source and what are they actuating?
The energy source is water going downhill. For approximately every 8 gallons of water that flows downhill, it powers one gallon to a higher level.
The pneumatic valves are there for the Sureflow system similar to how it is used on our papa pumps
these replies don't answer my question. I assume the valves are somehow used to prime the pump?
@@lorenzo42p No, they are used to open and close the valve using the pressurised water of the system like our Sureflow does on the papa pump
@@lorenzo42p see here: th-cam.com/video/gWznV486evs/w-d-xo.html
It seems to me you could supply a second smaller ram pump just from the falling overflow from that big guy. Just seems like it could do something with that water gushing out the top and not wasting it. More efficiency. Maybe I'm missing something here.
You are missing that the kinetic energy of the water is consumed: it has to go down in a pipe - with the same length and inclination - again to gain the same amount of energy.
@@TheCommono that's what I mean. Capture that water falling out and send it to another ram.
@@MadMetalShop But you don't gain any efficiency - you just can have another pump further down the stream. It's the same as with a water wheel: you can't reuse the water that went over it.
information. the energy is in the Head/elevation change (mentioned in other replies). the 'main' pump Would be located where the Maximum amount of head is utilized. while yer idea is semi-valid, it Assumes that MORE head is available, below the 'main' pump. cheers
@@daviddavids2884 You are the man to explain it...
But why do you say "semi-valid"? How could the 'waste' - water contribute to pumping more water and/ or to a higher elevation?
This is the way.
This is the way
Lil pumps worst enemy