Solas was just too blind by his devotion to his friend to realize that she was always ready to use their friendship to weaponizing him for the Evanuris. Mythal only saving grace was that she draw a line at using the blight. Other than that she was as powerhungry as the other Evanuris and had no issues with enslaving the people (elves) to herself. Their relationship was quite a toxic one i dare to say.
@@GattsBerserkArmor I think she would have eventually decided to use it too. She is no better than the rest in my mind. The more I replay his story, the more I see just a broken man who can’t trust anyone to help him so he just doesn’t ask. And Mythal needed to take a lot more responsibility than she did in the end.
I remember way back in 2010 after Origins was launched, there was a theory written by a fan about this on reddit, that the Elven Pantheon might also be the Archdemons/Old Gods and that the fade is way under the deep roads and that the Golden City/Black City is in the deep roads.
I always felt bad for the elves and how bad the humans treated them. Now I also feel bad about the dwarves and what the elves did to them... I imagine if we will also discover some sad story about the Qunaris origins too, I thought they were related to Ghilan'nain but they mentioned nothing about it so I guess this theorie was wrong
Anaris refers to Qunari Rook as a filthy half-breed. The implication is elves were fused with dragon blood for the purpose of fighting the devouring storm. My current theory is that the Scaled Ones and the Voshai are also peoples combined with dragon blood. Though I am unsure which one is humans + dragon blood anf which one is dwarves + dragon blood.
@@nicolem3951 those across the sea are the executors....and i believe that whoever they represent across the sea and basically transform any member of any species into more executors. the only groups i can think of that would have had an express interest in eliminating the evanuris to clear the way are forgotten ones and titans' remnants
Titans attacked elves first after spirits manifest into Elvs. The elvs didnt harm anyone. Titans attacked them and a long over hundred years war began. And Mythal and Solas had to act and splattered a Titan into pieces.
I mean, the Elves used the blood of the Titans to manifest their bodies against the Titans will. They literally hurted the Titans bodies and did something to them that they was against. Even Solas said he didnt think this was a good idea to get a body. So they literally did something bad. The Titans just decided to defend themselves and the Elves literally made them tranquils, created the blight, made all dwarves tranquils, with no access to magic or dreams anymore, made them live underground. They used the spirits of the Titans to get more and more power, they became power hungry and enslaved their own. That was the whole reason Harding was angry and Solas admits what they would do would be something horrible to make an entire race of Titans tranquils and the dwarves. So even though I like Elves they did indeed horrible things in the past to the Titans and Dwarves, they were not the victims of this story this time
My favourite part of veilguard was tying up those loose ends and confirming theories the community has been speculating about for so many years!!! This is a great summary.
@@Yacaloful But you cant really give veilguard that credit. The lore and lore speculation were to the credit of the original writers and the fanbase. Veilguard just regurgitated everything verbatim from past lore videos, codex entries, and forum post. And the way these revelations were portrayed was an lacking. You don't reveal world shattering information over polite conversation. These were the makings of pure upheaval. Solas presence was meant to rip the world asunder even before he tore down the veil.
It is interesting that the Gods call their dragons Archdemons as well. I thought that was just a moniker given by the modern cultures. I wonder if there were ancient elves who were active during the first Blight and knew what was really going on. Maybe they even helped to found the Grey Warden organization. Wouldn't be shocked if Tevinter and the Chantry erased any elven contributions after the fact.
It is stated during the mission in the fade during inquisition that the knowledge of the joining ritual to create the first wardens was given to a dreamer from a powerful spirit. I believe that spirit was Mythal
Thanks so much for making this one. It's really helpful to get the lore in a concise summary form like this. We get so much in bits and pieces it's hard to make sense of the greater timeline.
Is really interesting to know now that the Elves came after the Dwarves and Humans. I always thought the Elves were like the ancient and first race maybe along with the Dwarves and that maybe humans came from them later. Is also interesting to know that there were dwarves and humans all along with the Evanuris but we never heard about interactions between them. And if the Dwarves had titan magic and the Elves had magic because theyre were spirits, where did humans magic came from? This leaves me thinking about the Maker and even more curious about the Qunaris origins...
I think in the Andrastian religion they say something about the maker first created the spirits and than later the humans. I imagine if this is truth or another lie because we already know the maker didnt created the veil, it was Solas
@@nicolem3951 I think everything got mixed up. I do think there is a maker and it’s not Solas. It is a misinterpretation of the chantry-or is it? I have a wild head canon that there was an original veil and it got destroyed somehow in some catastrophic event. Like the ancient humans did something to it to gain more power maybe. Typical human shit and that cataclysm is what made the spirits, and in turn, the spirits wanted bodies back. It would be a pretty cool full circle kind of thing.
It's too bad that it wasn't revealed yet that Solas is Shartan and he helped Andraste (most likely a one time vessel for Mythal) free the elven slaves and defeat the Tevinter imperium.
Some people complain about this statement, but these kinds of videos are now not only useful but necessary since BioWare refused to properly wrap up the plot in Veilguard. I showed this video to all of the dragon age fans I personally know who completed Veilguard and none of them caught on to certain details, and for those who haven’t seen the comic before this video, it added a lot of context. So thank you, looking forward to more videos.
Love this. Thank you. Glad we can still enjoy the lore of this incredible franchise, even if the newest installment wasn’t what we might have hoped for.
This was a great video. My favorite part of Dragon Age is the lore, and this was a perfect summary of the origins of the elves and the blight. Thanks for making this and I look forward to your future videos.
The first of the Maker's children watched across the Veil And grew jealous of the life They could not feel, could not touch. In blackest envy were the demons born. -Erudition 2:1
Thank you so much for putting this video together. There’s a lot of extra stuff from the art book I didn’t know about. Damn, now I definitely need to buy it. Still though, I love how weird and esoteric and mythical Thedas’s origin story is. Easily one of the biggest highlights of The Veilguard for me. While I know there’s more games planned, I’m really glad BioWare went all-out on making sure The Veilguard was still a great ending. I really love how they wrapped it all up.
Hm. Where does it say the Elvhen and Evanuris actually built the Golden City. I know they lived there but I wonder if that's just where their Spirit forms had resided before making bodies and they just went back.
Tbh i wouldn't say that is undisputed lore. It was speculation from the companions during one of those meetings between chapters. I thought it was pretty weak tbh. With as big as the Fade is, I just don't see why they assume the elven city and the Maker's golden city are the same, but they do lol. But that may be my bias showing. I think tying EVERY piece of mythology/lore back to the elves is a lazy explanation that didn't need to happen.
Great video! Looking forward to seeing you dig into the other topics. One thing that sticks out here - since Solas explicitly did not imprison the Archdemons…who or what did? Was it the corrupted Titans? Did that same force eventually lure the darkspawn to corrupt the Archdemons, setting in motion a chain of events that would eventually kill (or vastly diminish) the Evanuris for good? Hope we get an answer to that, eventually.
Didn't Solas imprison the Archdemons underground until he could find a more permanent solution to them? I think the Evanuris knew that they could have the blight be brought back to Thedas, create a new version of darkspawn and then use the blight that was corrupting them to call upon the Darkspawn to come find and corrupt the slumbering archdemons.
WOW. This is a great lore breakdown, thank you so much. I was fairly new to the Dragon Age world, and this wraps up so many loose ends for me. Love your videos.
I hate to be the 🤓☝️ "Uhm Ackshually" person, but in Inquisition, when you're doing the constellation puzzles, They reference that the pre-Tevinter humans (forgot their name) came to Thedas from further north. Humans aren't a native race.
I'm still waiting to see prejudice against elves resolved. It was completely absent from Veilguard. My elf experienced/witnessed no racism and saw no slaves (even in Tevinter!). Prejudice should get worse now, not better. Solas injured the veil, twice. Ancient elven gods (who were even worshipped by Dalish) tried to blight the world, having actually created the blight! And crippled the Dwarves! If people disliked and mistrusted elves before, its so much worse now. I enjoyed Veilguard, despite it actually ignoring all this. If theres another DA, they NEED to address elves!
Honestly making all the different myth backstories related to each other was a bit of an underwhelming reveal. Plus it doesn't explain the Maker or the Qun or humans.
I suspect the Qunari for sure will feature heavily in what I'm thinking is the last Dragon Age game (not the last game in this universe, just the last one that takes place in the Dragon Age). In this game, we will learn more about the Qunari, dragons, and the devouring storm. However, most of the lore reveals, big as they were, really only gave us everything on elves (except forgotten ones in depth). We know most of dwarven lore, but not all of it. And ironically, humans are the biggest enigma. My hypothesis is that qunari are but one species that drank dragon's blood. I think the scaled ones and the voshai may also have.
We know that the Qunari are not from Thedas. That was made very clear during the entirety of veilguard. But what’s not clear is just how closely related to the dragons they are. Though that’s probably less true after what was discovered on the tablet and rather they just took the blood of the dragons to fight this unknown enemy from across the sea the “devouring storm”. And we know that they failed in this fight because they had to flea a second time. Perhaps humans are also part of the first great exodus from the land beyond the sea? They just survived unlike the first qunari? Or maybe they are also the embodiment of some kind of spirit or perhaps something that came because of the creation of the veil. They aren’t seen until after the veil was created by solas. Maybe humans were also made from the events with the titans. An unforeseen consequence from what mythal and solas did?
@@lordofgingerswe are in the age of dragons because of the dragons so while we may not be in Theda’s which I don’t think we are going to be, I do think we are getting ready to leave Theda’s and maybe turn a new age, but I don’t think a new age has come yet.
@@missylundeby I may misremember but is Morrigan not the herald of a new age? That’s where I got the idea from. It makes sense that the main story of dragon age ends with the end of dragon age
Great presentation! Did you adduce this on your own or get this by connecting all the lore in the game? For myself I am still baffled by the Red Lyrium. If the Blue Lyrium is the blood or “spirit” of the Titans, what and from where comes the Red Lyrium? Just Blighted Blue Lyrium? But I thought the Blight originated in the separation of the Titans from their spirits? How can the blood of the Titans, “Blue Lyrium” become Red Lyrium unless it is infected by something else? Is the rage of the Titans a physical, material thing that infected the Blue Lyrium, or is it a spiritual thing? Is Red Lyrium separate from Blue Lyrium or is it infected Blue Lyrium? Is Darkspawn blood 🩸 the agent that turns Blue Lyrium Red? Who created the Darkspawn? The Magisters by their invasion of the Black City or the Archdemons ? Still a whole lot that is puzzling.
Thanks for making this video, great to have it all laid out here. Am I misunderstanding or were all the Old Gods underground and imprisoned waiting to be found and become archdemons? If so how did they become imprisoned, was that Solas too?
Please do more videos. I need to know if the elven god fragments destroyed work like the Jaws of Hakkon dlc and they are reborn in people like Sara and Sandal? Returned to the blighted golden city? or forever gone as Voldemort killed by Harry with no Horcruxes left.
How do the forgotten ones play a role in this? Other than the fact that Solas was able to walk between the two factions and betrayed them and the Evanuris.
The forgotten ones were same as the Evanuris, powerful first elves. But they did not like being governed by the Evanuris so they rebelled. Though Solas said they weren’t any better than their tyrant leaders. The forgotten ones were as power hungry like the rest of the Evanuris.
Although Dragon Age Veilguard was a disappointment for me, your videos about the history of Thedas might help to solve some unsolved questions, like what happened to the other gods when their Dragons died.
@@masc4mascara39 Solas wasn't linked to a dragon and is still alive. That means the Dragon wasn't the reason for their immortality. Doesn't make sense. Besides that, even Ghilan'nain mentioned them as lost instead of dead.
@@masc4mascara39 When Solas didn't need a dragon to be immortal, why should the elven gods need one for their immortality? There existed even more Elven in the old times, that were all immortal, but weren't bound to a dragon. As far as the story showed us in DA4, binding a dragon made them invulnerable, not immortal.
First: This is a great story, too bad the game doesn't explain it that well. Second: Where did you get those images? Are they official? Third: One of the loose ends is how did the archdemons end up underground? And was commanding the ruins part of their plan, or did the dragon just get out of control when it got infected?
I really dont think this lore we ended up with in the final draft of game 4 is as rich or varied. Too simplistic and one sided in the end. The richness of the stories of the elven gods in the old games, especially Inquisition, shows this could have been so much more.
I think if it was handled any other way id take issue with how important solas is to the entire history of the DA world but it being a series of heavily misguided mistakes makes it more paletable, still a tad much but much more interesting
It’s a little sad that this is how it all turned out. From high fantasy to heightened fantasy. Solas becomes the most inconsistent character in the universe with all of that
It is sad watched destroy such good lore for a complete nonsense story. I am very scared for mass effect. I don't want see bioware destroy the cannon and his own legacy for some stupid ideas made for bad and stupid writters
When Mythal asked Solas to take on a physical form, Solas said that he has no wish to live as humans. That means that the elves at least knew what humans were before they even took on physical forms.
Honestly u do a waaay better job explaining the lore then the game seems to do. The lore surrounding the titans and ancient elves is great but the game really does a poor job incorporating it into the game and narrative. Also the da veilguard art book shows soooo many things that should have been in the finale game
@@zenstrain6647some of the images are from Solas memories parts of Veilguard, but others are from an art book. Something it seems like they wanted to include in the game but they didn’t. Like the whole part of the plot with the Titan soul cube, you won’t know that just from the game. That’s why I said lore IN THE COMICS because the rest is from the game.
@@MakingSpiritualityReal probably one of the bigger complaints is that they told too much and showed too little in this game. We know the blight was imprisoned in the black city which lines up with the conclusion of avernus that the source of the taint is the city. It could be a cube, a sphere, or a fruit bowl. That’s not the important part. The important part is solas made the titans tranquil and sealed the part he separated from them on the black city
I wont even play Veilguard, I wish they would've stuck to their original roots, like Origins. They had gay/bi characters but they weren't just shoehorned in with demonic agenda. It was a choice before, and now it feels like it's not. They also retconned the lore. I'm really hoping they don't screw up Mass Effect 5 cause Andromeda came up so short for me.
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Solas was just too blind by his devotion to his friend to realize that she was always ready to use their friendship to weaponizing him for the Evanuris.
Mythal only saving grace was that she draw a line at using the blight. Other than that she was as powerhungry as the other Evanuris and had no issues with enslaving the people (elves) to herself.
Their relationship was quite a toxic one i dare to say.
@@GattsBerserkArmor I think she would have eventually decided to use it too. She is no better than the rest in my mind. The more I replay his story, the more I see just a broken man who can’t trust anyone to help him so he just doesn’t ask. And Mythal needed to take a lot more responsibility than she did in the end.
I remember way back in 2010 after Origins was launched, there was a theory written by a fan about this on reddit, that the Elven Pantheon might also be the Archdemons/Old Gods and that the fade is way under the deep roads and that the Golden City/Black City is in the deep roads.
Yes, please do more of these types of videos. You explained it in a way I could understand where some gloss over these topics. Again, thanks.
Well said 😊
I always felt bad for the elves and how bad the humans treated them. Now I also feel bad about the dwarves and what the elves did to them... I imagine if we will also discover some sad story about the Qunaris origins too, I thought they were related to Ghilan'nain but they mentioned nothing about it so I guess this theorie was wrong
Anaris refers to Qunari Rook as a filthy half-breed.
The implication is elves were fused with dragon blood for the purpose of fighting the devouring storm.
My current theory is that the Scaled Ones and the Voshai are also peoples combined with dragon blood. Though I am unsure which one is humans + dragon blood anf which one is dwarves + dragon blood.
Thats interesting. I really want to know who are those across the sea, a new race maybe? Ive heard they look like Vorgoth
@@nicolem3951 those across the sea are the executors....and i believe that whoever they represent across the sea and basically transform any member of any species into more executors. the only groups i can think of that would have had an express interest in eliminating the evanuris to clear the way are forgotten ones and titans' remnants
Titans attacked elves first after spirits manifest into Elvs. The elvs didnt harm anyone. Titans attacked them and a long over hundred years war began. And Mythal and Solas had to act and splattered a Titan into pieces.
I mean, the Elves used the blood of the Titans to manifest their bodies against the Titans will. They literally hurted the Titans bodies and did something to them that they was against. Even Solas said he didnt think this was a good idea to get a body. So they literally did something bad. The Titans just decided to defend themselves and the Elves literally made them tranquils, created the blight, made all dwarves tranquils, with no access to magic or dreams anymore, made them live underground. They used the spirits of the Titans to get more and more power, they became power hungry and enslaved their own. That was the whole reason Harding was angry and Solas admits what they would do would be something horrible to make an entire race of Titans tranquils and the dwarves. So even though I like Elves they did indeed horrible things in the past to the Titans and Dwarves, they were not the victims of this story this time
My favourite part of veilguard was tying up those loose ends and confirming theories the community has been speculating about for so many years!!! This is a great summary.
😂epic troll
This part of the story is for me the only really good one, here you can see the essence of Dragon Age, unlike in the rest of the script.
@@Heero_effectHow can gN0ms comment be a troll?! R u urself some troll?
The lore Veilguard has been dropping has blown my mind. Everything I thought I knew from reading all those codexes...wrong!!!
@@Yacaloful But you cant really give veilguard that credit. The lore and lore speculation were to the credit of the original writers and the fanbase. Veilguard just regurgitated everything verbatim from past lore videos, codex entries, and forum post.
And the way these revelations were portrayed was an lacking. You don't reveal world shattering information over polite conversation.
These were the makings of pure upheaval. Solas presence was meant to rip the world asunder even before he tore down the veil.
It is interesting that the Gods call their dragons Archdemons as well. I thought that was just a moniker given by the modern cultures. I wonder if there were ancient elves who were active during the first Blight and knew what was really going on. Maybe they even helped to found the Grey Warden organization. Wouldn't be shocked if Tevinter and the Chantry erased any elven contributions after the fact.
Felassan would have been there for sure. Abelas too, but he was guarding the Vir’Abelassan and probably didn’t do anything.
Probably just a translation to the modern equivalent. Not that Veilguard had that depth with regards to languages and cultural idioms
It is stated during the mission in the fade during inquisition that the knowledge of the joining ritual to create the first wardens was given to a dreamer from a powerful spirit. I believe that spirit was Mythal
It's cannon that an elven grey warden ended the 4th blight plus Harkon was erased so yeah the Chantry erased elven history
Thanks so much for making this one. It's really helpful to get the lore in a concise summary form like this. We get so much in bits and pieces it's hard to make sense of the greater timeline.
Is really interesting to know now that the Elves came after the Dwarves and Humans. I always thought the Elves were like the ancient and first race maybe along with the Dwarves and that maybe humans came from them later. Is also interesting to know that there were dwarves and humans all along with the Evanuris but we never heard about interactions between them. And if the Dwarves had titan magic and the Elves had magic because theyre were spirits, where did humans magic came from? This leaves me thinking about the Maker and even more curious about the Qunaris origins...
Qunari are descended from elves but born from experiments as far as I know. Humans yea not sure
Humans might even predate the dwarves, not the Titans for sure though.
I think in the Andrastian religion they say something about the maker first created the spirits and than later the humans. I imagine if this is truth or another lie because we already know the maker didnt created the veil, it was Solas
@@nicolem3951 I think everything got mixed up. I do think there is a maker and it’s not Solas. It is a misinterpretation of the chantry-or is it?
I have a wild head canon that there was an original veil and it got destroyed somehow in some catastrophic event. Like the ancient humans did something to it to gain more power maybe. Typical human shit and that cataclysm is what made the spirits, and in turn, the spirits wanted bodies back. It would be a pretty cool full circle kind of thing.
It's too bad that it wasn't revealed yet that Solas is Shartan and he helped Andraste (most likely a one time vessel for Mythal) free the elven slaves and defeat the Tevinter imperium.
Some people complain about this statement, but these kinds of videos are now not only useful but necessary since BioWare refused to properly wrap up the plot in Veilguard. I showed this video to all of the dragon age fans I personally know who completed Veilguard and none of them caught on to certain details, and for those who haven’t seen the comic before this video, it added a lot of context. So thank you, looking forward to more videos.
Love this. Thank you. Glad we can still enjoy the lore of this incredible franchise, even if the newest installment wasn’t what we might have hoped for.
It was exactly what fans wanted.
Fans are always disappointed with a new DA game, forevermore.
Yeah, weird that they had a winning formula and threwnit out😊
@@draakgast Yeah... so many of their writers and devs left or got weird.
@seriphim123 true, they've been bleeding them almost
Yay! I am so happy to see you doing these kind of videos! With veilguard and all of the lore implications, I definitely needed a round up
This was a great video. My favorite part of Dragon Age is the lore, and this was a perfect summary of the origins of the elves and the blight. Thanks for making this and I look forward to your future videos.
Loved this so much, thanks for making it! 🥰
this is EXACTLY the video I needed today
The first of the Maker's children watched across the Veil
And grew jealous of the life
They could not feel, could not touch.
In blackest envy were the demons born.
-Erudition 2:1
Thank you so much for doing this!! I really look forward to seeing more lore style videos.
Thank you so much for putting this video together. There’s a lot of extra stuff from the art book I didn’t know about. Damn, now I definitely need to buy it. Still though, I love how weird and esoteric and mythical Thedas’s origin story is. Easily one of the biggest highlights of The Veilguard for me. While I know there’s more games planned, I’m really glad BioWare went all-out on making sure The Veilguard was still a great ending. I really love how they wrapped it all up.
Hm. Where does it say the Elvhen and Evanuris actually built the Golden City. I know they lived there but I wonder if that's just where their Spirit forms had resided before making bodies and they just went back.
They said that Silayse was the architect when they built the Golden City. Just as June was the one that created the Eluvians. Was in a Codex I think
Tbh i wouldn't say that is undisputed lore. It was speculation from the companions during one of those meetings between chapters. I thought it was pretty weak tbh. With as big as the Fade is, I just don't see why they assume the elven city and the Maker's golden city are the same, but they do lol.
But that may be my bias showing. I think tying EVERY piece of mythology/lore back to the elves is a lazy explanation that didn't need to happen.
@@nicolem3951 When?
@@Tessa_Rueverything myth had been tied to the elves…had you not play inquisition?
Great video! Looking forward to seeing you dig into the other topics.
One thing that sticks out here - since Solas explicitly did not imprison the Archdemons…who or what did?
Was it the corrupted Titans? Did that same force eventually lure the darkspawn to corrupt the Archdemons, setting in motion a chain of events that would eventually kill (or vastly diminish) the Evanuris for good?
Hope we get an answer to that, eventually.
Didn't Solas imprison the Archdemons underground until he could find a more permanent solution to them? I think the Evanuris knew that they could have the blight be brought back to Thedas, create a new version of darkspawn and then use the blight that was corrupting them to call upon the Darkspawn to come find and corrupt the slumbering archdemons.
WOW. This is a great lore breakdown, thank you so much. I was fairly new to the Dragon Age world, and this wraps up so many loose ends for me. Love your videos.
Answers to questions I've been pondering for years. Thank you for the video, this was great, very well done.
Happy Dragon Age Day!❤
Thank you for this video, it is so well done!
Yea! More Lore/Story vid from Kala!
Can't wait for another video such as this one. Very comprehensive and well-paced. Thank you. 😌
with all the Titans themes in this game I really expected that living mountain/titan that Bioware showed in their BTS video from 2020 to appear
So excited for your new lore videos. ❤
This a wonderful summary and video.
Absolutely amazing! I loved this! I look forward to more
Thank you Kala, this is very informative 🫶🏽❤
Hey Kala quick question, you mentioned a book in your video, is that the Art of Dragon Age the Veilguard one?
Yep!
This was great. I was fascinated by the turns the lore took in the most recent game.
Did you make the art for this, or is it official art from somewhere? Not the paintings from the game, but the others?
It's from the official art book
Oh dear, thank you for the video, I loved it. Don't get me wrong, the artbook from Veilguard worthed way more than playing 80 + hours of the game.
Awesome! Loved the video and I'm looking forward to so many more just like this!
Awesome video!!
Loved this. Great video Kala. Can't wait for more 😊
I hate to be the 🤓☝️ "Uhm Ackshually" person, but in Inquisition, when you're doing the constellation puzzles, They reference that the pre-Tevinter humans (forgot their name) came to Thedas from further north.
Humans aren't a native race.
Loved this. More please and thank you.
Great summary.
The whole elven thing was pretty much the only way they could go after the entire nerddom had collectively hashed it out for Bioware.
Love this! Succinct and informative. :)
This makes me want to go back and play DAI again to catch all the eggs!
I loved this, and look forward to more!
Amazing. Please do more of these on Dragon Age 🙌
Outstanding video!
I'm still waiting to see prejudice against elves resolved. It was completely absent from Veilguard. My elf experienced/witnessed no racism and saw no slaves (even in Tevinter!).
Prejudice should get worse now, not better. Solas injured the veil, twice. Ancient elven gods (who were even worshipped by Dalish) tried to blight the world, having actually created the blight! And crippled the Dwarves!
If people disliked and mistrusted elves before, its so much worse now.
I enjoyed Veilguard, despite it actually ignoring all this.
If theres another DA, they NEED to address elves!
Loved this. Keep it up
Love your lore videos! Could you do one about Kal-Sharok? I haven't seen a good one yet, and I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Awsome video
These videos are great
Honestly making all the different myth backstories related to each other was a bit of an underwhelming reveal. Plus it doesn't explain the Maker or the Qun or humans.
Good. More to explore in future games.
I suspect the Qunari for sure will feature heavily in what I'm thinking is the last Dragon Age game (not the last game in this universe, just the last one that takes place in the Dragon Age). In this game, we will learn more about the Qunari, dragons, and the devouring storm.
However, most of the lore reveals, big as they were, really only gave us everything on elves (except forgotten ones in depth). We know most of dwarven lore, but not all of it. And ironically, humans are the biggest enigma.
My hypothesis is that qunari are but one species that drank dragon's blood. I think the scaled ones and the voshai may also have.
We know that the Qunari are not from Thedas. That was made very clear during the entirety of veilguard. But what’s not clear is just how closely related to the dragons they are. Though that’s probably less true after what was discovered on the tablet and rather they just took the blood of the dragons to fight this unknown enemy from across the sea the “devouring storm”. And we know that they failed in this fight because they had to flea a second time. Perhaps humans are also part of the first great exodus from the land beyond the sea? They just survived unlike the first qunari? Or maybe they are also the embodiment of some kind of spirit or perhaps something that came because of the creation of the veil. They aren’t seen until after the veil was created by solas. Maybe humans were also made from the events with the titans. An unforeseen consequence from what mythal and solas did?
@@lordofgingerswe are in the age of dragons because of the dragons so while we may not be in Theda’s which I don’t think we are going to be, I do think we are getting ready to leave Theda’s and maybe turn a new age, but I don’t think a new age has come yet.
@@missylundeby I may misremember but is Morrigan not the herald of a new age? That’s where I got the idea from.
It makes sense that the main story of dragon age ends with the end of dragon age
Great presentation! Did you adduce this on your own or get this by connecting all the lore in the game?
For myself I am still baffled by the Red Lyrium. If the Blue Lyrium is the blood or “spirit” of the Titans, what and from where comes the Red Lyrium? Just Blighted Blue Lyrium? But I thought the Blight originated in the separation of the Titans from their spirits? How can the blood of the Titans, “Blue Lyrium” become Red Lyrium unless it is infected by something else? Is the rage of the Titans a physical, material thing that infected the Blue Lyrium, or is it a spiritual thing?
Is Red Lyrium separate from Blue Lyrium or is it infected Blue Lyrium? Is Darkspawn blood 🩸 the agent that turns Blue Lyrium Red? Who created the Darkspawn? The Magisters by their invasion of the Black City or the Archdemons ?
Still a whole lot that is puzzling.
Thanks for making this video, great to have it all laid out here. Am I misunderstanding or were all the Old Gods underground and imprisoned waiting to be found and become archdemons? If so how did they become imprisoned, was that Solas too?
Thank you
Please do more videos. I need to know if the elven god fragments destroyed work like the Jaws of Hakkon dlc and they are reborn in people like Sara and Sandal? Returned to the blighted golden city? or forever gone as Voldemort killed by Harry with no Horcruxes left.
Brilliant
This was such a great video! ❤ Answered so much as a casual DA game player. And you have Cyberpunk videos too? 🎉
How do the forgotten ones play a role in this? Other than the fact that Solas was able to walk between the two factions and betrayed them and the Evanuris.
The forgotten ones were same as the Evanuris, powerful first elves. But they did not like being governed by the Evanuris so they rebelled. Though Solas said they weren’t any better than their tyrant leaders. The forgotten ones were as power hungry like the rest of the Evanuris.
Thank you for the video!! Which book did the artwork come from? 😊
It's the official Veilguard Artbook
Great vídeo.
More videos like this please
Although Dragon Age Veilguard was a disappointment for me, your videos about the history of Thedas might help to solve some unsolved questions, like what happened to the other gods when their Dragons died.
The other gods died in the prison because their mortality was linked to the arch demons (dragons).
@@masc4mascara39 Solas wasn't linked to a dragon and is still alive. That means the Dragon wasn't the reason for their immortality. Doesn't make sense. Besides that, even Ghilan'nain mentioned them as lost instead of dead.
@@j.nevrion3732 Exactly, you just answered your own question. Solas mortality wasn’t linked to an archdemon and the Evanuris’ were.
@ hence why you can kill Elgarnan and Ghillinain after killing their dragons
@@masc4mascara39 When Solas didn't need a dragon to be immortal, why should the elven gods need one for their immortality? There existed even more Elven in the old times, that were all immortal, but weren't bound to a dragon. As far as the story showed us in DA4, binding a dragon made them invulnerable, not immortal.
I really like those types of videos
Poor titans 😢. Did some of them recover from the breach, in descent dlc, or was it just the one
Only the one on the Storm Coast. It essentially was calmed when it connected with Valta.
I love these lore with illustrations videos. Pretty much an audio storybook for a child like adult me 😂
First: This is a great story, too bad the game doesn't explain it that well.
Second: Where did you get those images? Are they official?
Third: One of the loose ends is how did the archdemons end up underground? And was commanding the ruins part of their plan, or did the dragon just get out of control when it got infected?
Thank for for this! I was a little fuzzy on the relationship between the Titans and the Blight, but you confirmed my understanding.
Kala, thank you for your content. I like your videos on dragon age and exodus. Keep up the good work.
Are all those images from the art book?
Yep!
@@kalaelizabethhmm, I’m tempted to get it now. Lots of good stuff in there. 😊
I really dont think this lore we ended up with in the final draft of game 4 is as rich or varied. Too simplistic and one sided in the end. The richness of the stories of the elven gods in the old games, especially Inquisition, shows this could have been so much more.
Happy DA Day all, Kala.... plz plz plz do more
I think if it was handled any other way id take issue with how important solas is to the entire history of the DA world but it being a series of heavily misguided mistakes makes it more paletable, still a tad much but much more interesting
Did we ever find out the fate of Falassan?
Read the Masked Empire
I recommend to read the Masked Empire!
@kalaelizabeth I did! I just saw some theories before The Veilguard came out!
👍
It’s so interesting how we now have confirmation that Solas was always a villain.
Yes please, I love lore!
Goes to show blood magic most dangerous and useful magic in dragon age
Yeah. I'll keep pretending Veilguard takes place in a parallel dimension different from the other games.
So is the Maker real or is Leliana nuts?
Could be, but we know that the chantry is wrong. And yes, Leliana is absolutely nuts lol
It’s a little sad that this is how it all turned out.
From high fantasy to heightened fantasy.
Solas becomes the most inconsistent character in the universe with all of that
Bro HOW
Ooohhhh so this is the retcon I’ve heard about. It’s a pretty fucking good retcon
Retcon?
Nothing was retconned, it was just explained over multiple games.
It is sad watched destroy such good lore for a complete nonsense story. I am very scared for mass effect. I don't want see bioware destroy the cannon and his own legacy for some stupid ideas made for bad and stupid writters
Imagine actually believing this
@krasmasov6852 if you enjoyed it the game good for you. But that don't change they destroyed a good lore making a shitty generic game
@@danielmurillo9369 What specific lore did they destroy?
There’s an on going reddit for lore changes and ret cons. But it’s a list compiled over the entire series not just veilguard.
U forgot to mention the horrible things solas did to win the rebellion and how much of a prick he can be, but otherwise great video ^^
Where did you get ‘the spirits used humans as templates’? Humans were thousands of years from ever appearing to the elves.
it is said in game
When Mythal asked Solas to take on a physical form, Solas said that he has no wish to live as humans. That means that the elves at least knew what humans were before they even took on physical forms.
Humans existed at the time the spirits became elves, Mythal directly states it. They just didn't settle Thedas yet.
Honestly u do a waaay better job explaining the lore then the game seems to do. The lore surrounding the titans and ancient elves is great but the game really does a poor job incorporating it into the game and narrative. Also the da veilguard art book shows soooo many things that should have been in the finale game
The fact that the lore in these comics is better than in the actual game is criminal.
This IS the lore from in-game. She just condensed it all for us.
@@zenstrain6647some of the images are from Solas memories parts of Veilguard, but others are from an art book. Something it seems like they wanted to include in the game but they didn’t. Like the whole part of the plot with the Titan soul cube, you won’t know that just from the game. That’s why I said lore IN THE COMICS because the rest is from the game.
@@MakingSpiritualityReal to clarify, that cube is what you see in 2 of the murals.
@@lordofgingersyes but it is not explained and plenty of people missed it and best case, you were left wondering what it was and what happened to it.
@@MakingSpiritualityReal probably one of the bigger complaints is that they told too much and showed too little in this game.
We know the blight was imprisoned in the black city which lines up with the conclusion of avernus that the source of the taint is the city. It could be a cube, a sphere, or a fruit bowl. That’s not the important part.
The important part is solas made the titans tranquil and sealed the part he separated from them on the black city
disregard veilguard the blight was actually caused by corypheus when he tried entering the fade...
No it was not lol and that was never implied 💀
@@kalaelizabethlol, it's literally one of the lines in the beginning of origins
Have you played inquisition
@@kalaelizabeth yes, handfull of times
Okay then we know the blight was created by the titans souls being captured and then the magisters freed a tiny portion of it like I said in the video
I refuse accept this some hippy elfs made blight lol spirt did just lame like came from corrupt titan mean why all saw thet coming 😂😂
Told better than the game did... :(
I wont even play Veilguard, I wish they would've stuck to their original roots, like Origins. They had gay/bi characters but they weren't just shoehorned in with demonic agenda. It was a choice before, and now it feels like it's not. They also retconned the lore. I'm really hoping they don't screw up Mass Effect 5 cause Andromeda came up so short for me.
“Demonic agenda” you’re a clown
"Demonic agenda"
Ok grandpa, let's get you to bed.
Agreed, really weird with all the Thaash stuff etc pulling a barb, totally breaks imersion