I worked in a supermarket for a while and people always saw me as slow, unable to do anything quickly. Eventually they came to the conclusion I was just a bit dumb. It was really frustrating because as I can be slow in the real world, it doesn’t mean I’m unintelligent, especially in the abstract one. - INFP
I may seem slower but what took you 8 hours to get done, I did in 2, because I procrastinated for 4 and thought about my moves for 2; my productivity is internal. INTP-T
Has any other INTP had trouble learning to drive? Because traffic is a kind of ever evolving and ever changing monster that is almost impossible to navigate safely if you aren't 100% focused on your surroundings... And I'm always in my head lol
I'm an INFP (we both have Se PoLR), and I got my license just a few weeks ago at the age of 24, whereas you can get it at 16 in the US. I was scared of driving for a long time, and still find it a bit off-putting and unnatural sometimes, though fun and empowering at times as well :) Driving gets better over time, when you practice handling the car and experiencing the flow of traffic, and get used to looking out for hazards and know what to look out for!
I got my licence then crashed my car within 2 months. Nothing serious though. I've found that I need to use Si here more. I've by default had some sort of a detachment in a way where my car and me were 2 separate things... So I "didn't care" about what happened to the car, which means my Si comfort only extended to where the last skin layer ended. Try and extend it to the vehicle as well.
Fi PoLR is tough, especially when you’re asked to give an opinion at work. I don’t know if I like the new system or not! I haven’t seen it in action yet! I also relate to INTP’s Se PoLR weaknesses. - ENTP
@@tillywontspeak I sure am, I also dont agree too much on the presentation of Fi PolR. For me it is about identity. Fi PolR is a chamaeleon that doesnt care about their "identity", whatever that means. We dont have to look for who we are, because we are what we are. We are everything that makes sense to us, depending on the circumstances. ENTPs and ESTPs have that in common, they're very quick to adapt and "change their tune" if the situation requires it. I have no problem arguing for the other side, because whatever I say, I can distance myself from it, make it impersonal, which is what im much more comfortable with.
As an INTJ, I usually say of myself “I just do not have Fe”. And yet my Fi is pretty developed... I can understand individual feelings and value systems very well, and yet what people at large feel and/or go after escapes my comprehension. I seem to be ok with detecting and understanding groupthink much better than “shared values” (which are utter nonsense to me). The most common feedback I hear about me is “I thought you were insensitive and detached but when I had a problem you were the only one who really listened and understood”. The only way for me to “emulate” Fe is to get to personally known most (if not each) member of a group, after which I can accurately predict how “that group might feel”
INTJ too. This is precisely how I see things. To me, there is no such thing as "the group". Just individuals with personal ideals, emotions and motivations bunched together. Once I understand those individuals, the "group dynamic" is easy to follow. Before that point, it's all just power plays which I have zero interest in.
This will change in time. As you get older, you'll become more aware of Fe. It's EXHAUSTING to use, I'll be honest, but it's absolutely necessary to use in a world full of feelers. It'll sloppily show itself when your with a group of ppl you ACTUALLY care about 😂 but they'll appreciate the effort.--INTJ mid 30s
Yeah! INxP is spot on. Even if I'm staring at the real world. I'm actually not paying attention to their words and daydream in a middle of a conversation.
But I wouldn't call it daydream. More like annalise and relate and reflect on what was said and what I experienced and understanding things I never understood awareness wisdom past things etc... it takes time to process information in your mind and by that time they have already moved miles ahead of you. I need things to slow down.
It feels strange being an INTP... Just because everything does get done slowly due to all the random sh*t I do in between it all, like watching this video and scrolling through comments instead of mowing the lawn and applying for a job. And when I do do things, they get done _so_ fast. Like, if I only did productive things, I would be A BEAST at how fast and efficiently I do jobs ... but that's not how these things work, is it? sigh. Better get to that lawn
As an INTP that is starting to learn to stay focused on getting things done I have to say it's an amazing feeling. I had to fight a lot even through illness to start accomplishing without becoming too anxious and unproductive because of it. I'm finding the right balance between working obsessively( and creating a burnout effect ) and procastinating all the time.
Yup. Se weakness. Being bothered by the phisical world and errands. Postpone, forget, getting reminders, postpone again, forget. It is a pattern for me. Some say Fe is our weakness. Its not. I most of the time onow what peopke want or wxpect of me. It is the random practical things. We just dont want to get around to them. The intp contradiction lazyness while having a galaxy brain. Thats one of the problems. Our thoughts are often up there with the stars.
INFP- and yes, before I even knew about the polr function, I felt like one thing I knew for sure was that Se was my weakest! I get anxiety when I'm being rushed. I need to go at my own pace. I spend most of the time in my head it seems like that I'm in a time warp where I don't even realize hours have passed by. I don't really notice things in the physical environment like most people unless I'm consciously focusing on finding something or it really stands out. This makes so much sense. Thank you.
Infj: Refusal to wear a watch haha Lots of procrastination and the creation of unfollowed lists and plans, yet still accomplishing most things somehow. Hating afternoon appointments as you spend the whole morning thinking of them and dont get a damn thing done. Feel best and less stressed in an intuitive flow like state. I think an Infj has to feel like they have all the time in the world or very little to get something done. Also just noting most arguments I've had and disagreement of thoughts have been with an Entj and Intj hands down. Their Ni is intriguing at first and feels familiar but soon their heavy Te ways wear down on an Infj soul, and you realise you will forever have a difference of opinion and a different way of living life from them (and view or treatment of others) to which you can never reconcile yourself to, because heck it feels like Te is a foreign body or amoeba trying to take over your natural state of mind and so you rebel against and reject it often. Entp and Intp for the win when it comes to a mental connection, it's like this lovely bubble of easy communication that leaves you refreshed and recharged. *Also Infjs are efficient and effective, it just doesn't happen in a standardised way that makes sense to the world.
So agree about ENTPs vs INTJs for INFJs. I think INTJs want to narrow you down. They like to immediately correct your first idea. ENTPs like to expand outward. They welcome your stupid first idea and build on it.
really great thoughts!! ive definitely had that experience with entjs and intjs, had a little conflict recently that reminded me just how different we can be from them haha.
1:12 Fi - ENTP/ESTP 2:05 Se - INTP/INFP 2:33 Si - ENTJ/ENFJ 3:09 Te - ISFJ/INFJ 3:34 Fe - ISTJ/INTJ 3:58 Ni - ESFJ/ESTJ 4:41 Ne - ISTP/ISFP 5:26 Ti - ENFP/ESFP
The ENTP PoLR is so unbelievably accurate, people hate me and call me narcissistic for not having an opinion. I can't even count how many times my lack of Fi has put me in uncomfortable social situations. It has ruined uncountable relationships, put long lasting scars on my reputation etc. It's hard to not being able to side with family on controversial topics. I just see the good in everything...
I kinda think being Se Polr is such a huge disadvantage. Life is so much of dealing with things there and then. Knowing how to react accordingly when shit hits the fan or not. Haha. I take such a long time to make decisions. My ESTP friend keeps pushing me to just do it, buy this or that, etc.
Yes it can indeed be a big issue. I do think that the ever increasing prominence of the online world and workplace are going to counteract that ever more overtime though! ~ Nathan
I feel like Fi PoLR is the least problematic PoLR function while Se PoLR is the most problematic. I feel like I've lost my youth years because of Se PoLR and missing too much in life. I would happily change my Se PoLR with Fi PoLR.
It's pretty hard to deal with. In my case it translates as getting overwhelmed and incredibly bored by mundane stuff (like paying my taxes, working a day-to-day job, any administrative paperwork and such...) but also having a hard time taking care of my space or even myself (not caring about how chaotic and messy my apartment is until I consider having someone over, not taking nutrition seriously, etc.) and just letting all of these problems snowball out of control. Basically, I only wish I could give up my physical form and transcend to a much less limiting plane of existence.
@@nackedgrils9302 I'm the same. I feel dysfunctional. Se PoLR feels like a disability, probably the most disadvantegous PoLR out of all. I sometimes wish I was Fi PoLR as it does not have too much detrimental consequences for the individual. There's a huge difference between struggling to do daily tasks (Se PoLR) vs not being able to tell what your favourite movie is when asked (Fi PoLR).
INFP - Lacking Se is something that I can really feel in my day to day life. When I stand somewhere and look around me, I have the impression that I have a sort of... fisheye perception of the world around me. As if I were in a bubble, detached, seeing it through the eye hole thingy that you have in doors. My vision is fine, it's just my perception - sometimes it gives me the impression that my legs are longer, and that I'm rather far from the ground - as if I were on a bike. It feels like being in a car, like you can't really interact with the world around. Instead, I perceive and remember atmospheres - if the light is rather warm, this moment will be remembered in my mind as tinted in yellow. If it was a rainy day, grey and blue will taint everything. If it was cold, or warm, or particularly noisy, these things I will remember very clearly
As an INTP I have the exact same thing. I often say that I'm blind or can't see, but I have 20/20 vision. I just can't take in all the sensory information that quick. I see everything in sort of a dreamy way. I'm useless with directions and if you ask me what I'm looking at it will take me a long time to figure it out.
@@amidreaming333 A bit off-topic but, hilariously enough, I have a great sense of direction in a forest, but a really bad one in town. I think it might be because I tend to remember the general direction I walked in better because I can see further ahead or something? I mean I assume. Or maybe I recognize trees better than houses X'D
I am an INTP (at least that's what all the tests I have taken has told me), but I haven't had this experience before. I am always pretty aware of where I am, and it does affect my behaviors. Sitting in the audience of a theater? I will still know I am in a theater. I also usually pay attention in classes and rarely daydream. My imagination is not wandering. A lot of my pleasurable thoughts are grounded in reality. Am I just a balanced INTP, or am I mistyped?
@@ninezerotwo1778 I mean, maybe I'm a bit of an extreme case - and I'm very INTP-ish in many things, so maybe you're in between to types as well. Or mistyped. I couldn't know though, considering I don't know you as a person tbh
What you're describing here actually sounds a lot like Si-dom's strong "personal impression of the physical world" to me (at least that's how Socionics describe Si, I think). INTP and INFP have Si as their tertiary function, which means their ability to note such perceptions is functional but very limited. When INTP and INFP are "detached from reality" I think it means there is nothing of the physical world that exists in our mind at all. At least that's the case for me (INTP); my latest hobby is to go window shopping in malls and say to myself "wow everything here is a manifestation of consumerism" when I look at... well, anything. That's the first impression that automatically comes to mind when I look at those things (Ni impressions btw, INTP have strong but unvalued Ni in Socionics), and I have to actually focus in order to realize the physical quality of the environment around me. For INFP, I guess it would be... how the physical world reminds them of certain sentiments/values, and then they'll go on to intensify such sentiments in their mind without further noting the physical world around them. Just to double-check, another problem with Se-PoLR is that we defend ourselves terribly. We often underestimate how competitive other people can be, and we usually inadequately protect ourselves or negotiate through a back-and-forth situation even when the other person is being wrong AND we have predicted the situation beforehand. I once failed to adequately display my dissatisfaction/resistance against a salesperson and got forced into buying cosmetic products which I give no shit about. Never again... That, or you'll see the Se-PoLR person snaps and makes the biggest shitstorm ever, unbottling everything that they've suppressed (suppression is the go-to reaction to unresolved negative emotions for not few Se-PoLRs), calling their opponents in all kinds of words and leaving them in shock. For example, I once called my ENTJ dad an "arrogant, ignorant asshole" or something along that line, not really something that I want to recall in full details. Extremely unhealthy Se-PoLR types can also become murderers for the same reason. Either way, Se-PoLR lacks regulation when it comes to Se. This is usually not the case for Si-dom/Se-ignoring. While sharing the same distaste towards Se-oriented environment (competition, noises, abrasiveness), Si-doms are perfectly capable of applying small doses of Se (expressing their distaste to other people, getting into back-and-forth) in order to restore their disturbed sense of peace. Hope that helps with clarifying!
Regarding ENTP's (ESTPs too I suppose) - I seriously do not know how I feel about people. Simultaneously I care about someone and yet I do not, I like someone but not really. I'm not really conflicted by other things such as in "Which band is your favorite" - I'll probably make an essay how I don't have a "favorite" but explain what I like in each (high Ne perhaps, possibilities?) Regarding people, as said, I honestly do not know how I feel about most of the people. I can tell someone that I care about them but also cut contact in one day without many regrets.
Honestly this fits me so well, I'm always emotionally detached from everyone even if they're very close family or friends, to be frank it's kinda disturbing because there's something always on my mind that tells me I need to care about my family and friends but I can't seem to genuinely do it, my Fe allows me to fake it at least.
In the example, explaining what I like in each is a thing I'm likely to do as I have hundreds of favourite music. The ironic thing is I'm INFP (as Se PoLR is toooooooooo obvious, it hurts.)
I am an ENTJ with a terrible memory. I just can't be bothered memorizing, which was an absolute nightmare at school. Memorizing useless details (certainly about historical events) only to forget them the day after the interrogation was just the most Te-inefficiënt use of valuable energy. Not to speak of the annoyance of my Ni desperately trying to find valuable and insightful patterns where there are none. I can only imagine it to be absolute Te- and Ni-horror for any ENTJ. If somebody were able to stop this torture, I wouldn't remember who and when, but I would be thankful.
Well not an entj, but had the same experience with history Anyways I'm now in collage and today we started new semester today and guess that - one of new things is design liguistics and teacher reiweved that we will do over the semester. And with every new task it got worse. For the first one we need to do a presentation about either document filling or language history. Well not the best task since it will require being overly detailed but I have pretty good public speech skills so I can get by will less details when required. For the second one its the same, but this time I'll need to choose between multiple language mistakes people are doing (again not ideal). And when the we reached the third one... And this one was absolute nail. First part of is to write 100 words used in graphic design with their meanings, which is a monotone as it can get. 50 of them need to be proper and 50 of them not really. When in a middle of that teacher corrected herself that she meant that 2 terms make 1 unit (seriously have no idea how deprived someone needs to be to say that instead of just saying that we need to find 200 words used in graphic design). When she started telling about we need to write sentences with those words. Like I'm sitting at fucking collage and I will have an assigned task meant for kindergarden kids, which is requires zero intellect and is absolute waste of time. Now as she was telling this I imagined how I was doing this, I already started feeling dizzy, but tryed to remind myself that it's just the second part of this nightmare. WHEN SHE CORRECTED HERSELF AGAIN, THAT IT IS STILL FIRST TASK OF THE TASK. At this point my headache started. Well guess thats for second part. It's fucking document filling literally. So at that point I was so exhausted from hearing about that, that I asked if can prove to hear that I fill documents on my daily basis, but they are with other people names, so I cannot present them, to excuse myslef from that part. Well it appaers that she meant that we need to write 20 documents ourselfs following correct procedures. Well I didnt hear the end of it, since at that moment I felt like I will black out and just walked pit of class
As an INFJ, I think how I struggle with Te is accepting other people's ways of doing things. I HAVE to think it through MYSELF with Ti. I just cannot listen to someone else telling me how something works, I have to tap into my own understanding of how it works, even if it takes longer
Im an ENTP but i super relate to Te Blindspot and ISFJ weaknesses too. It makes me confused because the situation you described makes me stressed and I often overthink because I don't trust other people's methods and it doesn't click until I try my own and realize its better or it isn't. It also makes me feel like I have to learn the hard way, and getting rid of bad habits is difficult af
Te is definitely underrated in ENFPs and ESFPs. I hadn’t thought about what your type is, I’m curious when/how you figured out you were an ENFP? ~ Nathan
@@AnthonyRecenello Well a person's top two functions are going to be pretty evenly matched in terms of strength and amount of usage so feeling like your Ne and Fi are balanced is not an unusual thing. There is a strange thing that happens when people are typing themselves, they'll often see their middle two or bottom two functions more clearly since their top function is so natural to them - it's the lens through which they view the world. As a result it's hard to even notice it. Also you could just have developed your Fi more over time. More well developed versions of a type will have less of an imbalance between their functions. Do you resonate with some of the Si inferior issues?
I'm an ENTP and i remembered three situations : 1. It was my birthday and me and my friends had a very good day and at the end of the day one of them asked "are you happy?" and i legit didn't know what say. I just didn't know. 2. I was walking with a friend that i was starting to get close to and i was think "do i really like her??" and again i couldn't answer that. 3. I have this one person who was my best friend and then door slammed me for no reason _for real i was depressed and heartbroken for months_ but since then and till today when people ask me if i hate her or not, i can't answer. I know that i don't hate her but at the same time i'm pretty sure i don't like her, i just don't know how i feel about her. You pretty much nailed it with the "fi ignoring" even your examples are accurate, i can never decide which song is my favorite and other stuff like that
Learning that Fe polr existed is what got me hooked on mbti. "You mean other people have a 'sense' of how what they do/say will make other people feel?...they just know?...whaaaaattttt. I must study this."
As an ISFJ, with Fe as my second highest function, I was pretty confused to discover that this wasn't just a basic part of everyone's mind. :) You fascinate me, too! And I envy your mental/emotional strength and ability to stand apart from the vortex of others' feelings- we Fe people need you!!
I relate to what you said. I emulate Fe by Ni predicting social outcomes before I say based on Fi. I often then have to hold my Te back, or there will be a conflict in which even more Fe is required to resolve. It's awful.
As an INFJ it isn't like we "have "sense" of how what we do/say makes in other people feel". But more: we feel the others emotions more than ours and then react to this with instinct unconsciously trying to find some harmony in the relation because the disharmony makes us crazy and we need social approval. I often mystyped myself in the past as intp or intj because my sense of being myself depends on logic and I strugled with feelings: only after I learned to separate my feelings from the others's feelings and learned some logical definitions of emotions I could use the empathic understand to manipulate consciously these things.
Ni poLR confirmed (ESxJ) I used to fit in most of the characteristics of an Ni poLR user explained in the video. But 2023 was a turning point year where : 1/ I deep dived into MBTI (out of curiosity) which led me to get more in touch with my weaknesses (notably learning to get more in touch with my values and life purposes) 2/ I experienced depression. Thanks to 1/, I easily identified the cause of my depression = having established a routine for the last 5 years that gradually drove me away from my main life goal. I've learned my lesson creating spaces to be contempaltive, and questionning every now and then how relevant my routines are to serve the purposes i'm seeking. Thank you MBTI.
Having Ne Polr is strange. When we ISTP's/ISFP's decide to do something, they will often become so extremely focused on their Ni+Ti/Fi way of doing it that they completely ignore all other possibilities, which can be both good and bad i guess.
As an INFP i find this sooo fascinating! I don't like doing anything - i do it a thousand times in a thousand different ways in my head. it's so much more fun and better that way :'D I now know two isfps and they always stare very hard at me when i'm talking to them to pretend that they are listening. i now realise that they are just watching my facial expressions
You're right to describe it as being double edged because being distracted by possibilities to the point of being indecisive is equally as dangerous as having tunnel vision ~ Nathan
Yes I'm infp😂👌 I have an intp friend we usually relate to each other on how people are not wise in their life choices. From what i can see infp long term memory are more focus on life and social interactions more than intp meanwhile the intp use his long term memory on more system based problems not so much in social events, although i must say (intp) that kind of usage of long term memory a.k.a Si-child, that hold up on past arguments 👌 dope.
INTJ here. Fe Polr. Very very accurate. Fe is my least favorite function and the function that I am the most annoyed to try and develop. The harmonious environment has value and learning how to deliver a message/content/experience to a social gathering is needed but I have observed that a lot of genuine and authentic expression as well as truth is often sacrificed due to the fragile feelings of the group. But sometimes the discussion or presentation of such topics is imperative and much needed to be discussed to create a solution and a base line for understanding. I have found that high Fe users are highly reactive and take things personal that are not intended to be taken offensive. True authentic expression tends to be sacrificed to bend to the will of the Fe crowd making most social gatherings feel very fake, cohersed, and even rehearsed sometimes.
As an INFJ, I think the Te PoLR description was pretty good. To specify the struggle with this: INFJs struggle with jumping from their "ideal world" in their heads into the Te reality of things. They also can find it hard to make their visions a reality, because it might not be as good as they imagined it to be. Wenzes describes this well on her TH-cam channel, for example, and helped me a lot with my personal growth.
This is fascinating. I'm an INTP, and the PoLR Se makes total sense to me. I am absolutely oblivious in many ways to what is going on around me, in terms of taking in sensory information. In fact, I'm very good at blocking it out, in order to focus on what I'm thinking about or working on. If I'm reading, my hearing shuts off. If I'm working at my desk, the clutter piles up and it doesn't bother me in the least, but I have a really difficult time finding what I'm looking for if it's stored in a container or on a shelf or in a drawer that has too many other things lumped together, without a detailed division and organization of that container/shelf/drawer.
Having Fi poLR is like having three options for emotional reactions: 1) Happy 2) Frustrated 3) Neutral. I have always wondered what it would feel like to comprehend a more granular set of sincere emotions, but ya know....I wouldn’t recognize myself.
I can see emotions as real substances. And as having Se poLR nothing is f real in my head. It's like living in a drawing kinda awkward. I wonder how having poLR fi really feels like.
I would genuinely be happy (pardon the expression) with a mainly neutral emotional life. I'm kind of classing things like excitement/adrenaline as non-emotions which might be inaccurate... but nonetheless 'mainly neutral' would be perfection ~ Nathan
ENFP here and so true! I’ve always realized that I have to ‘feel’ (have passion/want to do/like/find it interesting?) things to do certain things! So far I haven’t found my PoLR Ti debilitating, and sometimes others and even I find it cute. But it always amazes me how some people can just do or act in such dispassionate and not feeling associated ways.
*groom for Indian wedding at the hotel/venue I work at goes by on golden horse with drummers surrounding him, dancing* Coworker: omg omg did you see that? Me, and INTP: what? No I missed it!!! I was trying to figure something out!
Well, this theory sounds about right to me. As an INFP, moving at my own pace and hating being rushed is definitely one of my biggest weaknesses. But I also do not work well at someone else's pace, so I just know I have to leave myself extra time to do things.
At work, I will work as fast as possible to get things done. But I work in the medical field..and most patients are slow. So I'll go crazy and rush through the halls, only to slow down to a snail's pace once I'm with patients. Besides, I want to treat everyone impartially and with dignity, so I give everyone the time and space they need. It feels weird when people tell me to hurry up, though..because I really just want to go, go, go.
Once I had a tiny sociological discussion with an ISTP and convinced him of my point, then after some seconds I told him I really wasn't sure about it and that I was just messing with him, and he never talked to me ever again. enjoyable times.
Protip: convicing an istp of an opinion you have and then saying your unsure about it makes them feel stupid for buying into what you said. We loathe feeling stupid.
@@Jack-vn8jy True but also it makes me think the other person has no convictions, they're wishy washy and therefore untrustworthy. It's one less person for me to give a shit about, so wins all round lol.
The entp one is incredibly accurate. The fact that I can't make up my mind on anything is bothersome and from time to time almost unbearable. I find myself talking about things and arguing with people about ideas that I don't even believe on, and I have this constant perception that in reality none of my thoughts is actually mine, but just an agglomeration of other people's thoughts and ideas that I kind of "read" in their mind, because I can't actually stand for anything, and for that I sometimes feel shallow and empty, like if my mind is not actually valuable, and my intelligence is just a waste. In my life, this translates in not being able to actually get deeper with my friends, because sometimes I feel that I don't like them at all, and not being able to be happy and consistent with my choices. It was something that is seriously driving me crazy, thank you for putting a name on it
Wow. Estp here. I Identify completely with this. I have hurt a lot of people (especially girlfriends) unintentionally when it finally becomes obvious that they have become attached to me and I am forever undecided ☹. Not sure Entps identify with that too.
Bruh stop describing my life bro like when I'm not around others peoples like if there isn't someone too tell me "this is good this is bad, i like that thing, i feel good about this , i just feel so empty like idk if i like someone or I pretend to like someone , idk if I really stand for this or I'm just supposed too like that and the worth part is that i don't mind if I have a reason for doing something but the fact that i don't mind it is what make me feel empty like I don't mind if I don't like something if this is the best thing too do I'll do it. Is weird bro, it weird too explain .
the entp blind spot is so accurate, like, i always like everyone and everything until someone else points out the bad side, it`s almost like I can`t have a genuine opinion without external coercion
I'm an INTP, and it's very true about being physically detached from the environment and dislike of being pushed around. Personally I feel the Fi PoLR also fits me to a large extent.
Yes. I rem as child my brother complaining about the ride being boring. So my dad put on tunes. And he wanted to get there. Honestly my travel sickness is the only thing that makes me want to hurry a nice country ride.
I'm just trying to imagine being driven on a road trip by an INFP.... scary stuff indeed. Me: "Are we there yet? INFP: "Where?" Me: "Oh God..." ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Haha, I'm an INFP and I drive around family members on road trips quite often. I can say it never went terribly wrong thus far 😁 But yeah, I tend to be daydreaming instead of paying attention to the road more often than I should admit 😅
you talked about how with ENFP's we often have trouble engaging in something dispassionately and that is.....so true. I cannot complete something if I hate it, and if I love something it's all in for me. It's kind of a blessing and a curse:/
I'm an ENFP who has always thought Ti is the cutest/most pure function... I enjoyed philosophy and logic classes in school and have no problems with detached logical reasoning or conditional logic - unless they are applied to people. I really relate to the shop example but I think it's because the two shops AREN'T the same for all intents and purposes. Maybe the staff at the nearer shop is rude, or going to the further one gives me more time to myself (parent of small children loves solo errands). Or there is a beautiful garden or something on the way to the further one. I really feel I'm worse at my tertiary and inferior functions than my polr. Is that possible?
Interesting! the two things that immediately come to mind reading this is that 1) you may not be an ENFP or 2) your development has been uneven. It could be something else I didn't think of and I don't mean to accuse you of one of the two things I did, but if you had a strong Ti role model, whether that was a parent/grandparent/friend/celebrity or whoever then you could have a more developed Ti than some other ENFP. Oh, and also it comes down to perception. Again speaking objectively, if someone doesn't have a good grasp on their character they might see some things about them and assume that they're not so bad or that they're good, when in reality it's lacking. Another random thought as I type, Philosophy in particular I wouldn't put on Ti, but rather a mix of functions, centered around Ne. Hope that helps, and if it doesn't at least it might be interesting -INTP
@@Thr3leven thanks for taking the time to reply in detail! I did think I was INFJ for 8 years before I was told earlier this year that I was likely ENFP, so it is possible that I've still not got my type right. At least I got the N/F/T/S, just inverted the extroversion/introversion. I know I'm NF temperament and I definitely generate infinite ideas and am allergic to implementing or finishing them, so ENFP is likely (didn't consider it before because I didn't investigate past the sparkly-unicorn-butterfly-golden-retriever stereotype which didn't fit, and also I'm conflict averse and don't like crowds or being the centre of attention, but when I learned that the E only indicates the attitude of your top function, rather than your interest in spending time with people, it all made sense). Maybe it is perception, and maybe my grasp of the functions is insufficient (in my defense there is a wide variety of descriptions of them around the web and especially on YT). If philosophy is Ne-heavy then that could explain why I like it! You're probably also right about development - am married to an ENTJ and have had to accept and develop Te as a survival mechanism lol. Maybe I felt Ti was highly valued at school and leaned into it. Is the fact that I'm interested in exploring/delving into this but not adamant about getting to the actual exact bottom of it indicative of weak Ti? ^^ (Edited for grammar)
@@meganm4877 Well... maybe I'm more of an armchair 'typologist' here, but what I know is that that is a relationship people often have with their inferior function (The 4th in your stack, often it is romanticized and longed for even though the person isn't great with it). ONLY based on your two comments I would gander you might be an INFP, seeing as you thought you might be an INFJ and on the surface it's not far off, though that's only a guess. All in all I would recommend looking around some more. If you can have an objective eye, going through every letter (I and E, S and N, etc) and look at them, even the ones you're more sure about and try to piece it together, then look up some stuff that that particular type has in terms of behaviors. If you can't seem to be objective about it, bring in a friend who can be frank with you (that can really help). Tests are fine, but with something as complicated as people it's hard to write a good one that will accurately pinpoint your actual type. And thank _you_ for listening to the ramblings of a madman XD
as an INFP, I guess that's why my family gets easily annoyed when something new happens around the house and they're all talking about it and I'm like "What? Why? what's happening?" xD another thing I get scolded for a lot is whenever our dog barks outside and I'm too busy with myself and my mom just goes "Do you not care what's happening outside? Could be the dog alerting a person or worse, a thief and you're just sitting there???" damn XD
im an INTP. i have a developed Se, though its still my worst function. And i can relate to both the Se PoLR and, Si PoLR. i actually have somewhat bad Si for an INTP, so i do have a lot in common with ISTPs. (as for how i developed my Se, i just forced myself to take action. turned off my brain, just did. it worked.)
Exactly! As an ENTJ, I’m always on the go, losing sleep, barely eating, yet making time to work out to “de-stress” (and then pushing myself to limits I probably shouldn’t)-sleep doesn’t matter to me if I still have things that need to get done, even if it’s weeks in advanced. “It’s as if ENXJs prioritize their future self over their present self” is a very apt way to describe this. Lose sleep? I’ll sleep when I’m a doctor/successful/reached my life goals. Also I’m aware that this is can highly unhealthy behavior and also has to do with perfectionism and over-controlled behavior and I’m working on it. Anyways, great video explaining PoLR functions! I’m still learning a lot about typology and discovering how PoLR functions manifest is highly informative.
I’m an INFP and I can’t ever focus on anything unless it matters to me 😂. I drop things, I zone out in boring conversations, and when I’m at work, I rarely respond the first time someone calls my name. I’m too busy pretending I’m somewhere else haha
For me INFJ, having to use Te can be described as turbulent - if I have to make a decision, especially quick, as to where many others are concerned I get an anxiety attack and need someone to feed me the decision - which I then have no trouble justifying and then calmly organising the next step. Heard also this function being called "trickster" because it's hard to control and often we think we are making a decision with it but are completely fooled and actually follow one of our main patterns.
my parents hate it when I say "may be" instead of answering "yes". They ask "Do you want to eat pizza? I say "may be" or "do you will make this thing?" I say "may be". It's so difficult to say "yes, I want this or that" with decision
As an ISTP, I used to think little of "people skills" but later found out that we actually need it very badly. So (with the help of an INFJ) I started treating it like a skill to master instead of thinking I will never be good at talking to or understanding people. Now, I am actually even good at it, which was something I thought I'd never achieve. I found out that our inclination to just look at something for the sole purpose of understanding can be quite comforting for others, although there is a thin line that can make it feel like we are being judgemental :/
Whenever I go into a store, I'll aimlessly wonder through the aisles trying to remember what it is I'm looking for, only to be momentarily distracted from the question, by the same question, but on a broader philosophical scale. -INFJ
My best friend is an istp, me an infp. When I try and explain someone's motive that doesn't fit their system, down to a very detailed description, they stop listening within 3 seconds and grunt!!
@Chris U. it could be you trying to share your relief function with them, which is Si actually. Recalling detail, and information! It took me 9 months of studying and self examination to see that I am an infp. Good luck my friend!
it's hilarious! I'd just written something similar in relation to isfps. They stare so hard at you and scrunch up their faces like you're causing them pain and they're trying to be polite and follow :'D
@@alexandermalmgren3261 I do forgive them, because I know that they have an extremely hard time seeing the good in people and in the world.. they refuse to rethink things if it doesn't fit their system. Kind of like communism. Lol!
As an ISFP with Polr Ne, I definitely agree with this video. I’m married to an Ne dom ENFP, which (as you can imagine) can lead to some pretty funny conversations. “Right, mmm hmm, yep. Those are all great ideas, but we were talking about how we are getting our daughter to school, not all the ways we can remodel our kitchen.” The TANGENTS! Ahhhhhh!!!!!
Dead on! ENTJ Tasks are priority over self: I’ll grab a cookie as lunch & run out the door to get something done. 3 hrs later realize “I haven’t eaten or drank anything since that cookie”. Also: idea 1st, details 2nd. “What if” myself to death instead of enjoying & living in the present. ps can’t remember short-term anything unless I write it down and/or make a list.
As I've mentioned in a previous ENTJ (and ENFJ) video, sometimes taking a break to do some self-care has a bigger impact on productivity than constantly pushing yourself (speaking as someone who is often guilty of the same thing) ~ Nathan
ISFP here. This year I started working on my polar Ne-seeing the joy of brainstorming and being willing to let go of previous ideas and ways of doing things. If I have to choose between quality or quantity, quality seems like the obvious choice. But I’ve learned that without a quantity of ideas to choose from (or at least more than one...) how will I be able to tell which ones have quality? Great video!
I'm a mix between INTJ and INTP in terms of my polar function. - Detached from the real world, in my head a lot, oblivious to my environment etc(INTP) While also - Somewhat emotionally detached and stoic (I can become more emotionally engaged if I talk about a subject I like, in the company of others), not playing the social game, prioritizing substance over style etc (INTJ) What I can't subscribe to on the other hand (INTJ spalt), is not caring about maintaining harmony, or not being able to read social and emotional cues. I'm almost always aware whenever I break a social norm, but I choose to do it nonetheless, as following it just because others do so is off-putting to me. Because of this, I don't really like to engage with other people too much, as it all comes down to a social game I'm not willing to play. That's not to say I have poor social skills, it's just that if it's something completely stupid, I'm not willing to play 'the social game' so to say. My biggest weakness is in living in the 'here and now', in the concrete world, and to have the skills necessary to navigate it successfully. I have managed to survive up to now because the 21th century allows me specialize in the few subjects I'm adept at, but I wouldn't be able to survive living the life of a normal person. Not because it would be beneath me, but because I simply don't have the practical skills to do so.
It's fairly common for INTPs to not play the social game, INTJs and INTPs share commonality when it comes to social participation. From my perspective, you sound more like an INTP. I'm INTP-T.
It may not be that you lack the skills, entirely, and it can be good to balance yourself out more by accepting and exercising your weaker areas. At the end of the day, I do agree you should capitalize on your strengths, though.
INTJ, not gonna lie, I spent my entire childhood disrupting harmony without intending it, and suffering the consequences 'cause my mom is an ESFJ... thanks to that I can see now where I could be more careful when I interact with people, but to be honest it just doesn't seem worth it. Specially when I interact with people I don't care about, or that aren't going to be beneficial in any way
Well, if you think that it isn't worth to be careful of harmony in social interactions specially with people you don't care about or that aren't going to be beneficial in any way... I'd say that you're focusing too much on benefits or efficiency. (My ENTJ Dad is like that too. Though now he learnt the importance of diplomacy.) You can think like this, you don't know what the other person (the one who you're not close with) is going through or is like or is thinking/feeling at the moment. So, here you don't have to see whether it's gonna do good to you or not. Or whether it's worth or not. Maybe you got the purpose of social interactions wrong, what do you think is the purpose of talking or meeting up with friends or social groups? Is it about gaining something? It could get subjective here. *But if you see from everyone's/group's point of view, simple purpose of social interactions we all share is; first and foremost, to have a good time. A good time that will enlighten our mood, bring smiles to everyone's faces. So when we go back home, we'll remember how happy we all together were.* I know there are some things that we feel the urge to say or talk about, but we need to pause and think whether is it possibly harsh language or statement that's gonna hurt someone? Or is it something kind of/ very off-hand comment that's gonna catch people off-guard? Is it even the right or correct thing to say? Cuz it's very important to think before we act. Although, I know there are always/often some people who are very toxic, energy draining or just not the kind of people we prefer to be around. So, in these cases it's not wrong to avoid them or ignore them. We just don't want unnecessary trouble or disputes and we also want to protect ourselves. So yeah, there's that. I hope I cleared something and this helps you. Take care! TPWK. ~INFJ
I expected to defy this description, BUT you nailed it. I often drive to a sub shop that is a mile and a half further away because instead of being in the middle of town on the mainland, it is on an island. Driving to the island brings beautiful views, fewer stoplights (better for thinking and daydreaming), and a feeling of freedom and “mini vacay” as I get closer to the sea. ENFP here. Obviously…
I find these personality evaluations interesting, but what they don't take into account are the variables that come to play in a person's life. For example: A person is born with a personality. That person grows up with others that have other personalities. So depending upon how freely a person got to actually be themselves when growing up or the opposite of that with a controlling parent/guardian is a factor that needs to be considered when looking at personality types. There are always variables that come into play. Some good and some not that can affect how a person feels in being able to be their true self. Another example: An ESFJ that lived in a loving and caring home would be more likely to be able to express their personality. Whereas, an ESFJ that lived in a nelegated/abusive home would most likely been denied their own right to freely express their personality, whereby, causing them to be less like the personality they were born with. AKA: You got a sweet warm caring dog that wags its tail with joy. If that same dog was abused it withdrawals from being open to being it's true self into an intimidated dog unless that dog is given time to heal from its wounds by a sweet, caring, warm human being. So when I read these characteristics I also take into consideration that life and what it throws at us is a major influence in how one can or cannot be their true self or even be accepted as their true self. I think it's best to appreciate all types even if they don't match up with you by at least being hospitalible. Being kind to one another goes a long way even if you don't like their personality type, especially in today's world.
I fully agree but when you understand the functions at their core, you’ll see how they shape people on a simple general level. So for an ESFJ they have extraverted feeling so it really doesn’t matter how much abuse there might be they will always be empathetic or the opposite of it (INTP) they won’t ever be on extremes with their perception functions (Ni Ne Si Se) so they always gonna have people problems. An esfj in a hood house hood is gonna love people and empathize. But an abused one will probably hate people and may or not be empathetic. But still people related problems. Take an INFJ the same situation and they won’t have the same kind of people problem like the esfj Bc we are born with perception problems however that would look. And all the functions break down to decisions and perspectives
INTJ ,it does happen quite sometimese that people assume i've 'had enough' of their behaviours , and I reply with all good intent that I didn't care to begin with.... and then they go with 'it was a joke'. I don't quite get it ngl
As an ISTJ, I find that I can actually read people quite well, but it's as though my brain won't let me act on that information. I don't like people "reading" me so I feel uncomfortable "reading" them, and I sometimes end up ignoring social cues despite being painfully aware of them. For example, in a situation where I know full well that the other person wants me to be more casual, I won't change my behaviour unless I have concrete evidence of that. It's as though I expect to be challenged to explain my behaviour and it would be "against the rules" to "guess" what others are thinking.
I have the same issue lmao. Not sure if mine’s Fe-polr or inf but i can tell when ppl want me to talk more but i just refuse to do so cuz making small talk just feels so awkward and pointless to me idk. Like when i greet someone w usual “good morning” and leave the conversation at that but i can tell they’re expecting more and i just dont wanna talk or be there lol
I'm an ENFP and I've always had a hard time associating Ti as my PoLR function, mainly because all my life I've been inclined towards the STEM fields, I even first mistyped as INTP. This vid made me understand what Ti PoLR really means and instantly saw how it applies to me, all my life I've made stupid decisions on matters that were majorly impactful. Most of those decisions I've even made them _knowing_ that they were objectively stupid, but I made them anyways because it was what I felt like doing at the time and could not do otherwise. When faced with intelligence and stupidity, I have a track record for choosing stupidity. The worst part of it all is that I keep doing it.
fax-my friend.i too made r* tarded decisions too. Idk why but I always do dumb decisions because I simply feel like it.dont know why I thought it was worth it but I done it and go on to regret it what I did and the cycle repeats in an inconsistent manner as always because enfps are consistently inconsistent
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 but we ENFP as we grow and learn from our mistake we become someone who's like a wizard, a magical transcended creature, a phoenix and a unicorn combined in whatever field we're in. . . . . . But then throw it all out because we found thousand other new interests💀
It's very funny reading Fi PoLR as an INFP because it looks so alien. One symptom of Se PoLR for me might be finding more pleasure in watching something rather than participating in it (from a conversation to a tabletop game), which might seem absurd to many people.
I am INFJ (Se inferior), and everyday at my window, I just watch what happen outside, if something happen or not, just watch the world as it is. Just observe. For example : _The sky the night, watch the stars. _Observe people walking, waiting, take the tramway, the cars moving.
As an INTP, this is spot on. I am extremely oblivious to my environment. When I do notice physical things in my environment (eventually), I start to see lots of flaws, then I think about all the ways that could be employed to fix that problem, or even go so far as to think about a greater flaw in which this one small thing is a problem within, and then when I have thought through all of my solutions I do absolutely nothing about it.
I love how you end the video like that XD Your editing style just makes me happy every time. Also, as an ENFP, I can agree that Ti is hard. I like to pride myself that I'm a very practical, innovative, and hard working person (Te child), but if I'm not carful I can end up working (sometimes quite diligently) on projects that are not a logical use of my time (Ti PoLR). (Lol - for example, wording this comment perfectly.) Like an ESTP with emotional elements, it's difficult for me to quantify the logical elements in my life. "It is remarkable how I am never quite clear about the motives for any of my decisions. Is that a sign of confusion, of inner dishonesty, or is it a sign that we are guided [i.e., by God] without our knowing, or is it both?" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
ooh yes i also feel/felt quite Te heavy as an enfp, but still definitely enfp. i think it's because i'm autistic + grew up as the outcasted gifted child with my mom being an emotionally unavailable esfj, so i learned to dismiss feelings and try to focus on """real logic""" because it's what i was taught was right.
ENFPs working on our Ti POLR can really help with some of our irrational fears in everyday life - to understand that some things are more likely to happen under certain conditions. It helps to have Ti people around you I think On the other hand, I also think that ignoring your POLR function can help you stand out and do your own thing by not being limited by it. It’s a balance - how to stay sane while also not letting it limit you
@@alexandermalmgren3261 I have received quite the mixed bag of comments from my friends. Some think I'm cute and fluffy, others that I'm an idiot, and a few think I'm somehow a forest witch. But all of them have agreed on one thing: "If there was ever one of us who'd actually go through with murder, it would be you. None of us would want to be in your presence when you actually lose it one day.". I guess fluffy, cute, magical, idiotic and don't-get-angry types are seen as scary murderers.
@@emelieha I'm the most gentle, easy going guy ever. But when I get angry, I go crazy. GYAHH! But luckily, I'm only angry in my head, and I don't show aggression..unless I'm driving.
INFJ Te PoLR here. I hate it when others need me to follow their decision if they totally disregard my opinions, because I have though of it well enough to put it into the table. I am unable to follow steps if I don't see the whole flow first to understand the function of that step. Panic when I have to make quick decisions because I like to think it through.
As an istp I have had a lot of problems with Isfj’s /infj at work wanting to do their own thing in a not so efficient way. I’ve also had an esfj talk my ear off so bad about things I don’t care about that I literally clocked out mentally..
I've known quite a few ENFJs and I've never known them to neglect small details. If anything, they are very fussy about small details. It drives me absolutely insane and I can't spend much time around them in a home environment
Enfj here, after my experiences in an extremely competitive high school where I'd have to sacrifice food or sleep in order to achieve my multiple goals and ambitions (mainly performing what was expected from me as club leader / student council member etc) I went to college and asked my friends "What would you rather give up, food or sleep?" only to meet with those baffled looks and shocks... Lollllll
Was watching boy meets world and Eric is enfp I think so his polr is ti: he was walking in with his friend after failing his driving test cuz he drove forward hitting a car cuz he saw someone wave him up, "how was I suppose to know he wasn't the DMV guy" he says, his friend replied "most DMV officers aren't waving ppl up with a beer can in their hands"
Hello, I have Fi PoLR & I constantly ask myself "What would make sense for me to feel right now?" instead of "What do I actually feel?" I keep forgetting that emotions sometimes just don't make sense, and knowing that they don't make sense doesn't mean you feel something else.
My weakest functions are definitely Fe, Se and Si. I get carried away when I need to do a lot of routine work. I don’t have a specific memory like my wife, who’s an ESFJ. I’m argumentative and people say I look displeased or angry most of the time. So, I need to consciously put on a happy face. When I have to explain things I have to focus a lot on being specific and it drains me very fast. I’m polite, but being so is how I was raised. When I get angry with people, I become aggressive, brash and offensive. I don’t like to shout or when others shout, but when angry shouting comes naturally to me.
To define Te polar, for ISFJ and INFJ, the first thing coming to my mind is their crippling perfectionism. Their course of action is based on intuition instead of the empirical logic of Te... so these types chase after a pipe dream, leaving mixed but potentially positive results.
Person- Hey ENFP why did you do X ENFP- Because I felt like it Person- No I want to understand the underlying logic behind your decisions ENFP- Wanting to do something is not a good enough reason on it's own?.....
I'm ISFJ and I agree with mine completely. I'm very organized and methodical and yet I am a horrible procrastinator and sometimes I let my organization go to the wayside depending on my mood. I also find it hard to make decisions on the spot. I would rather make a list of pros and cons and use that to make a decision. Very rarely do I make a split second decision. I get lost in my head all the time.
I've learned that my PoLR is Se for quite some time now but you definitely put it into word for me. For the longest time, i assumed that my Se PoLR means I'm a bit selfish and not care much about other's experience rather than mine (Si Tertiary) but this makes a lot more sense! I space out almost entirely while writing or drawing, to the point where i lose the sense of time. It's like my other senses just turn off so i can focus on what i am working on. It's easier to think that way for sure, since i won't be overwhelmed by noises and people talking. I also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate when people rush my work. It just sucks away all my motivation and fun out of the experience. Would they prefer a poorly researched and mediocre product? I really need to work on it though, since i can space out in the middle of a video chat looking at something else. Turns out, the ones with short attention span aren't ENFPs but INxPs haha
I am an ENTP. While texting, my ESFP friend told me that there were times when she hated me and times when she loved me. She asked me how I felt about her I replied that I have never hated or loved her. This came out rude though 😬 This video as cleared my doubt regarding whether I was am ENTP or INTP, My Fi is more weak than my Se. Thank you
I've been officially typed ISTJ both from Objective Personality and Meghan LeVota. The Fe PoLR description described me up to my college years. Now I would say Se PoLR actually describes me the best. Interestingly I have been officially typed by Jack from World Socionics society as LII, which has Se PoLR, although some in the socionics community do not agree with that typing.
I am an INFP I am slow but I have noticed that the speed at which I think of the different possibilities is actually fast. Often skipping from one possibility to another and then getting back to it. Writing down them does slow this Speed but I notice that it happens at a loss. But then I am not able to store those amazing conclusion that I make which makes me think exactly the same thing again some time later. I try to record but then my brain goes blank.
Very interesting. I love these videos that help you distinguish and compare types to each other. Not just stereotypes but actual insights here! My boyfriend is an ISTJ and his polr Fe is a problem for me (ISFJ) because reading other people's social and emotional cues comes very naturally for me and I keep forgetting it's definitely not so for him 😹 Likewise, my poor Te must be really frustrating for him. I think I need to make a "personal connection" to data or "integrate it into my own logical system" before I'm able to take it in and understand what it means, whereas he can just absorb and analyse everything right away... Even as a student I would write and draw my own notes (dozens of pages, lol, 'cause you know I love details) and read them instead of text books.
Hi, ISTJ here, can you tell me how is your relationship is going with your istj. How you feel about him. How you live your life together. I am curious and I want to know about you two bcs I love one ISFJ girl.
INTP with Se PoLR here. For me it manifests as me being absentminded and day dreamt constantly. I bump into things and drop things more than most other people. I also tend to be indecisive and hate spontaneity.
My ENTP self is known as the master of ‘on the other hand’ or playing devil’s advocate. I guess I don’t feel a lot of emotional investment in things and can therefore see a reasonable range of good and bad qualities in everything. I guess I take everything as being, in a sense, its own thing, not necessarily comparable to anything else.
INTJ- Thanks a bunch for this! I've been trying to figure out the exact meanings of each function for a while. Now I can finally find a job using my strengths! Thanks!
I'd say having Fx as a PolR can be potentially terrible. It means that to a certain extent, you have problems with the emotional part of your personality. I can't speak for Fi PolrS, but I can add a bit more to the PolR Fe part. Fe can be related to social skills, but no necessarily. Fe sort of takes the job of externalizing how you feel, which can lead to problems when an IXTJ needs help but cannot express it, which probably relates to the stoic point, but I wanted to go a but further. Fe is a cruel mistress
I definitely agree as ENFP it's usually worth an extra expenditure of energy for me to go with something I feel an affinity for, rather than something I don't. But I just see affinity as another quantifiable variable. If I don't have the energy, (time, money) I'll go where I don't need to spend energy. But people apparently see me as pragmatic and I admit to a certain scorpionic efficiency when it suits me. My INTP ex accused "the end always justifies the means with you" and my ISTJ husband and ESFP mother think I also fit the description of ENTP as I like to fight (but I argue for what I believe, the fight actually hurts me at a certain point, I simply just won't give up until I win, draw or take the house down with me- this is I think where the idea of ENFP "champion" comes from). But mom had to admit having known me as a child I was NF not NT. I think also if you are highly formally educated, like at an ivy level university I was challenged to the conditional logic type stuff -- if it's pattern related like those tests or if it's logic in words I am grear, but stuff like music theory and calculus was very challenging. I think my Te started developing more in 30s and 40s. My mom ESFP is much less able to try on different worldviews and reason why she has an affinity for something, but I dunno if this is because she keeps with Se or because she is limited by an 8th grade education.
As an INFP with ADHD, this is really spot on. Pretty much everything that was presented under Se PoLR traits are symptoms of ADHD. I feel like there could be a link between xNxP personality types and ADHD.
Am an ENTP with (late life dx'd) ADHD inattentive type. It's a bear, let me tell you. The last few decades of my life all make sense now. 😂 All hell broke loose when both my kids reached school age and I had to coordinate all of our Life schedules. I recently realized that I cannot work a 1st shift job (has to be 2nd or 3rd shift). If I am not late myself, I still manage to make at least one of my kids late. Almost 50 tardies last school year, mostly because of me. I don't know how people with more than 2 kids manage to get anywhere on time. Add to that losing and misplacing everything. I work for a state park and I literally lost All of Access Keys and am going to buy a metal detector today to try to find them on my day off. I end up doing the dumbest things sometimes, I swear, and I am not a dumb person.
Firstly, really great video Nathan, and enjoying reading through these comments too. While I'm not yet cast iron sure of my type, I can definitely relate to having poor Se. Completely live in my head; have zero sense of direction; walk into things every day; drop/break stuff; forget where I've put things (keys/phone); and never can find what I'm looking for in shops. Oh, and the hand sanitising machine directly at the entrance of my work that we all absolutely must use? Yeah, I walk past it, too, without noticing... 🙃
@@lovewho Exactly Nathan. Feel like I've been on a relentless quest in recent times to figure out which type I am. Interestingly, I consistently score 5w4 on the Enneagram, which can be drawn back to the MBTI types you have mentioned there
ISTP: “Skeptical of highly novel and innovative approaches and favour more grounded and straightforward methods” Skeptical, yes, but also curious and potentially interested especially when it comes to new technology. If a new approach makes sense (to us) we are quick to adopt it and abandon the old ones.
As an INTP, I agree with this. I’ve gotten better at focusing on the real world, but it’s still hard sometimes. I also have noticed that I’ll have trouble living in the moment, making quick decisions without overthinking, and being spontaneous. My Ti-Ne is almost always looking to the possibilities, and trying to decide how I’m supposed to logically handle the future. I also can sometimes use Si and get stuck in certain past scenarios, but not as often. Or I’ll just end up daydreaming.
I didn't know until now that Fe is my (INTJ) polar function but it makes a lot of sense. I've never given even the remotest of fucks about social conventions and as a result cause controversy wherever I go.
INTPs and INFPs also aren't really interested in new experiences. They feel that they can already imagine what it will be like and decide that way if it's worth it or not. They also like to be comfortable and if they like something they will just do the same thing over and over. They will eat the same food, go to the same place on vacation, watch the same movie, etc. It's relaxing to them. Things like parties and crowded places make them uncomfortable and they will run away fast. They also don't usually have an interest in drugs, or alcohol unless it's something they already like. They will not do something for the sake of new experience, unless it's an Ne novelty where they can't imagine what will happen. For me I'm not interested in sigarets, but I would try DMT for the sake of finding new patterns in the universe and gaining a broader perspective.
Im pretty sure this video has confirmed that I am ENTP. I have been wondering if I’m INTP or ENTP even though I consistently test ENTP on many tests. I’m probably more logical than most ENTPs and i have been close to being an introvert. I relate soooo well to the Fi blind spotz more so than Se though. (Even though i kinda kinda relate to that too). I can’t ever choose what I like and what I don’t like. People ask me “what is your favorite _______?” It happens with almost everything! EVEN STUFF I LIKE. And I have the hardest time. Most of the time I just make something up cause I honestly don’t know or don’t care. I don’t always see the value, but I realize this probably leads to my indecisiveness in practically everything from choosing my future career, partner, and hobbies. Im sincerely lost.
I am amazing in high intensity/crisis situations and use Te and Ti quite well. If nothing very urgent is taking place, you will find me doing literally what you said, "Driving to a faraway store just because I like it more". I resonate with the ENFP below who said, "The stores aren't the same, even if they have the same items I need". Yeah, because I'm going to experience everything about that store. If I go to a store with friendly people, a nice aesthetic layout, new merchandise to explore, a good coffee shop next door, and I purchase towels, I am going to arrive home energized, inspired and in a state of flow. If I go to an ugly store with grumpy people and see nothing interesting, I will arrive home energetically drained. I'll probably be too depleted to bring the towels inside. I'll leave them in the car for too long and probably spill coffee on them. I will have to go out again and buy more. It saves time and resources to just drive farther and go to the store I like. I'm not driving there for no reason, now am I?
Perfect example - he said “even though they’re pretty much the same store” and instead of using that factor, you now made your own new factor to make it so his conceptual store example now becomes a store that you want it to be “well they aren’t the same store to me”. You’ve not used the data he used and have turned it into the logic you’d like to argue (not dispassionately). If the argument is 1+2=3, you disagree. You say the answer cannot be 3 when 2+2=4.
Since I was a kid, my family always wanted me to be "quicker" - intp
Thing I thought in this was that it is not that we go slow. It is the world that goes too fast.
We probably go at a normal human healthy pace.
Infp
I worked in a supermarket for a while and people always saw me as slow, unable to do anything quickly. Eventually they came to the conclusion I was just a bit dumb. It was really frustrating because as I can be slow in the real world, it doesn’t mean I’m unintelligent, especially in the abstract one. - INFP
I may seem slower but what took you 8 hours to get done, I did in 2, because I procrastinated for 4 and thought about my moves for 2; my productivity is internal. INTP-T
Tell them you can’t move any faster
@@MelB868 I'm always like why do you care,I get my job done the way I want to do it. Or I just ironnicaly start to move very explosively.
Has any other INTP had trouble learning to drive? Because traffic is a kind of ever evolving and ever changing monster that is almost impossible to navigate safely if you aren't 100% focused on your surroundings... And I'm always in my head lol
I learned to drive with FEAR, so that I don't overthink or get distracted by things on the side of the road.
This is a common issue for Se PoLR
I'm an INFP (we both have Se PoLR), and I got my license just a few weeks ago at the age of 24, whereas you can get it at 16 in the US. I was scared of driving for a long time, and still find it a bit off-putting and unnatural sometimes, though fun and empowering at times as well :)
Driving gets better over time, when you practice handling the car and experiencing the flow of traffic, and get used to looking out for hazards and know what to look out for!
@@gabumonboys Same lol. Better safe than sorry, even if it's more of a hassle sometimes :)
I got my licence then crashed my car within 2 months. Nothing serious though. I've found that I need to use Si here more. I've by default had some sort of a detachment in a way where my car and me were 2 separate things... So I "didn't care" about what happened to the car, which means my Si comfort only extended to where the last skin layer ended. Try and extend it to the vehicle as well.
Fi PoLR is tough, especially when you’re asked to give an opinion at work. I don’t know if I like the new system or not! I haven’t seen it in action yet! I also relate to INTP’s Se PoLR weaknesses. - ENTP
Exactly, ENTPs tend to be amazing at giving the detached analysis of the pros and cons but much less so when it comes to subjective opinions ~ Nathan
My ENTP ex seemed to always like the thing that was new :) Even when it was objectively s**t :D
that's why ENTPs do not follow artistic careers, we have so little to express in our "intimate world" (ENTP too here). Do you know any ?
@@TheGamblermusic Aren't ENTPs into making music?
@@tillywontspeak I sure am, I also dont agree too much on the presentation of Fi PolR. For me it is about identity. Fi PolR is a chamaeleon that doesnt care about their "identity", whatever that means. We dont have to look for who we are, because we are what we are. We are everything that makes sense to us, depending on the circumstances. ENTPs and ESTPs have that in common, they're very quick to adapt and "change their tune" if the situation requires it. I have no problem arguing for the other side, because whatever I say, I can distance myself from it, make it impersonal, which is what im much more comfortable with.
As an INTJ, I usually say of myself “I just do not have Fe”. And yet my Fi is pretty developed... I can understand individual feelings and value systems very well, and yet what people at large feel and/or go after escapes my comprehension. I seem to be ok with detecting and understanding groupthink much better than “shared values” (which are utter nonsense to me). The most common feedback I hear about me is “I thought you were insensitive and detached but when I had a problem you were the only one who really listened and understood”. The only way for me to “emulate” Fe is to get to personally known most (if not each) member of a group, after which I can accurately predict how “that group might feel”
This is such an INTJ comment. ~ Nathan
INTJ too. This is precisely how I see things. To me, there is no such thing as "the group". Just individuals with personal ideals, emotions and motivations bunched together.
Once I understand those individuals, the "group dynamic" is easy to follow. Before that point, it's all just power plays which I have zero interest in.
Every INTJ can relate.
As an INFP, very similar. The difference is I can see and do the Fe, but usually find it inferior, inaccurate or annoying and choose not to.
This will change in time. As you get older, you'll become more aware of Fe. It's EXHAUSTING to use, I'll be honest, but it's absolutely necessary to use in a world full of feelers. It'll sloppily show itself when your with a group of ppl you ACTUALLY care about 😂 but they'll appreciate the effort.--INTJ mid 30s
Yeah! INxP is spot on. Even if I'm staring at the real world. I'm actually not paying attention to their words and daydream in a middle of a conversation.
my parents often tell me that I'm absent-minded lmao
@@dreytukaji7871 that's sad, alexa, play despacito!
Yes
But I wouldn't call it daydream. More like annalise and relate and reflect on what was said and what I experienced and understanding things I never understood awareness wisdom past things etc... it takes time to process information in your mind and by that time they have already moved miles ahead of you. I need things to slow down.
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 That's some intp stuff there.
It feels strange being an INTP... Just because everything does get done slowly due to all the random sh*t I do in between it all, like watching this video and scrolling through comments instead of mowing the lawn and applying for a job. And when I do do things, they get done _so_ fast. Like, if I only did productive things, I would be A BEAST at how fast and efficiently I do jobs
... but that's not how these things work, is it?
sigh. Better get to that lawn
Man I feel so seen
that looking for a job task hits my intp ass.... bro don't expose us!
As an INTP that is starting to learn to stay focused on getting things done I have to say it's an amazing feeling. I had to fight a lot even through illness to start accomplishing without becoming too anxious and unproductive because of it. I'm finding the right balance between working obsessively( and creating a burnout effect ) and procastinating all the time.
Yup. Se weakness. Being bothered by the phisical world and errands. Postpone, forget, getting reminders, postpone again, forget. It is a pattern for me.
Some say Fe is our weakness. Its not. I most of the time onow what peopke want or wxpect of me. It is the random practical things. We just dont want to get around to them. The intp contradiction lazyness while having a galaxy brain. Thats one of the problems. Our thoughts are often up there with the stars.
@@Ignasimp Congrats! I'm right there with you :) - INFP
INFP- and yes, before I even knew about the polr function, I felt like one thing I knew for sure was that Se was my weakest! I get anxiety when I'm being rushed. I need to go at my own pace. I spend most of the time in my head it seems like that I'm in a time warp where I don't even realize hours have passed by. I don't really notice things in the physical environment like most people unless I'm consciously focusing on finding something or it really stands out. This makes so much sense. Thank you.
Infj: Refusal to wear a watch haha
Lots of procrastination and the creation of unfollowed lists and plans, yet still accomplishing most things somehow. Hating afternoon appointments as you spend the whole morning thinking of them and dont get a damn thing done. Feel best and less stressed in an intuitive flow like state.
I think an Infj has to feel like they have all the time in the world or very little to get something done.
Also just noting most arguments I've had and disagreement of thoughts have been with an Entj and Intj hands down. Their Ni is intriguing at first and feels familiar but soon their heavy Te ways wear down on an Infj soul, and you realise you will forever have a difference of opinion and a different way of living life from them (and view or treatment of others) to which you can never reconcile yourself to, because heck it feels like Te is a foreign body or amoeba trying to take over your natural state of mind and so you rebel against and reject it often.
Entp and Intp for the win when it comes to a mental connection, it's like this lovely bubble of easy communication that leaves you refreshed and recharged.
*Also Infjs are efficient and effective, it just doesn't happen in a standardised way that makes sense to the world.
"Why can't you say/do __ if __ is so much easier?" - annoyed ISTJ @ INFJ 😼
So agree about ENTPs vs INTJs for INFJs. I think INTJs want to narrow you down. They like to immediately correct your first idea. ENTPs like to expand outward. They welcome your stupid first idea and build on it.
So true on the procrastinating...its either INFINITY or URGENT.
really great thoughts!! ive definitely had that experience with entjs and intjs, had a little conflict recently that reminded me just how different we can be from them haha.
The accuracy of this was somewhat scary ngl
1:12 Fi - ENTP/ESTP
2:05 Se - INTP/INFP
2:33 Si - ENTJ/ENFJ
3:09 Te - ISFJ/INFJ
3:34 Fe - ISTJ/INTJ
3:58 Ni - ESFJ/ESTJ
4:41 Ne - ISTP/ISFP
5:26 Ti - ENFP/ESFP
Thank you!!! Please pin this😂
-an entj
The ENTP PoLR is so unbelievably accurate, people hate me and call me narcissistic for not having an opinion. I can't even count how many times my lack of Fi has put me in uncomfortable social situations. It has ruined uncountable relationships, put long lasting scars on my reputation etc. It's hard to not being able to side with family on controversial topics. I just see the good in everything...
same
I kinda think being Se Polr is such a huge disadvantage. Life is so much of dealing with things there and then. Knowing how to react accordingly when shit hits the fan or not. Haha. I take such a long time to make decisions. My ESTP friend keeps pushing me to just do it, buy this or that, etc.
Yes it can indeed be a big issue. I do think that the ever increasing prominence of the online world and workplace are going to counteract that ever more overtime though! ~ Nathan
It is also dangerous when driving.
I feel like Fi PoLR is the least problematic PoLR function while Se PoLR is the most problematic. I feel like I've lost my youth years because of Se PoLR and missing too much in life. I would happily change my Se PoLR with Fi PoLR.
It's pretty hard to deal with. In my case it translates as getting overwhelmed and incredibly bored by mundane stuff (like paying my taxes, working a day-to-day job, any administrative paperwork and such...) but also having a hard time taking care of my space or even myself (not caring about how chaotic and messy my apartment is until I consider having someone over, not taking nutrition seriously, etc.) and just letting all of these problems snowball out of control.
Basically, I only wish I could give up my physical form and transcend to a much less limiting plane of existence.
@@nackedgrils9302 I'm the same. I feel dysfunctional. Se PoLR feels like a disability, probably the most disadvantegous PoLR out of all. I sometimes wish I was Fi PoLR as it does not have too much detrimental consequences for the individual. There's a huge difference between struggling to do daily tasks (Se PoLR) vs not being able to tell what your favourite movie is when asked (Fi PoLR).
INFP - Lacking Se is something that I can really feel in my day to day life. When I stand somewhere and look around me, I have the impression that I have a sort of... fisheye perception of the world around me. As if I were in a bubble, detached, seeing it through the eye hole thingy that you have in doors. My vision is fine, it's just my perception - sometimes it gives me the impression that my legs are longer, and that I'm rather far from the ground - as if I were on a bike. It feels like being in a car, like you can't really interact with the world around.
Instead, I perceive and remember atmospheres - if the light is rather warm, this moment will be remembered in my mind as tinted in yellow. If it was a rainy day, grey and blue will taint everything. If it was cold, or warm, or particularly noisy, these things I will remember very clearly
As an INTP I have the exact same thing. I often say that I'm blind or can't see, but I have 20/20 vision. I just can't take in all the sensory information that quick.
I see everything in sort of a dreamy way.
I'm useless with directions and if you ask me what I'm looking at it will take me a long time to figure it out.
@@amidreaming333 A bit off-topic but, hilariously enough, I have a great sense of direction in a forest, but a really bad one in town. I think it might be because I tend to remember the general direction I walked in better because I can see further ahead or something? I mean I assume. Or maybe I recognize trees better than houses X'D
I am an INTP (at least that's what all the tests I have taken has told me), but I haven't had this experience before. I am always pretty aware of where I am, and it does affect my behaviors. Sitting in the audience of a theater? I will still know I am in a theater. I also usually pay attention in classes and rarely daydream. My imagination is not wandering. A lot of my pleasurable thoughts are grounded in reality. Am I just a balanced INTP, or am I mistyped?
@@ninezerotwo1778 I mean, maybe I'm a bit of an extreme case - and I'm very INTP-ish in many things, so maybe you're in between to types as well. Or mistyped. I couldn't know though, considering I don't know you as a person tbh
What you're describing here actually sounds a lot like Si-dom's strong "personal impression of the physical world" to me (at least that's how Socionics describe Si, I think). INTP and INFP have Si as their tertiary function, which means their ability to note such perceptions is functional but very limited. When INTP and INFP are "detached from reality" I think it means there is nothing of the physical world that exists in our mind at all. At least that's the case for me (INTP); my latest hobby is to go window shopping in malls and say to myself "wow everything here is a manifestation of consumerism" when I look at... well, anything. That's the first impression that automatically comes to mind when I look at those things (Ni impressions btw, INTP have strong but unvalued Ni in Socionics), and I have to actually focus in order to realize the physical quality of the environment around me. For INFP, I guess it would be... how the physical world reminds them of certain sentiments/values, and then they'll go on to intensify such sentiments in their mind without further noting the physical world around them.
Just to double-check, another problem with Se-PoLR is that we defend ourselves terribly. We often underestimate how competitive other people can be, and we usually inadequately protect ourselves or negotiate through a back-and-forth situation even when the other person is being wrong AND we have predicted the situation beforehand. I once failed to adequately display my dissatisfaction/resistance against a salesperson and got forced into buying cosmetic products which I give no shit about. Never again... That, or you'll see the Se-PoLR person snaps and makes the biggest shitstorm ever, unbottling everything that they've suppressed (suppression is the go-to reaction to unresolved negative emotions for not few Se-PoLRs), calling their opponents in all kinds of words and leaving them in shock. For example, I once called my ENTJ dad an "arrogant, ignorant asshole" or something along that line, not really something that I want to recall in full details. Extremely unhealthy Se-PoLR types can also become murderers for the same reason. Either way, Se-PoLR lacks regulation when it comes to Se. This is usually not the case for Si-dom/Se-ignoring. While sharing the same distaste towards Se-oriented environment (competition, noises, abrasiveness), Si-doms are perfectly capable of applying small doses of Se (expressing their distaste to other people, getting into back-and-forth) in order to restore their disturbed sense of peace.
Hope that helps with clarifying!
Regarding ENTP's (ESTPs too I suppose) - I seriously do not know how I feel about people. Simultaneously I care about someone and yet I do not, I like someone but not really. I'm not really conflicted by other things such as in "Which band is your favorite" - I'll probably make an essay how I don't have a "favorite" but explain what I like in each (high Ne perhaps, possibilities?)
Regarding people, as said, I honestly do not know how I feel about most of the people. I can tell someone that I care about them but also cut contact in one day without many regrets.
Yep, this is definitely a very ENTP (or ESTP) comment! ~ Nathan
Honestly this fits me so well, I'm always emotionally detached from everyone even if they're very close family or friends, to be frank it's kinda disturbing because there's something always on my mind that tells me I need to care about my family and friends but I can't seem to genuinely do it, my Fe allows me to fake it at least.
In the example, explaining what I like in each is a thing I'm likely to do as I have hundreds of favourite music. The ironic thing is I'm INFP (as Se PoLR is toooooooooo obvious, it hurts.)
I am an ENTJ with a terrible memory. I just can't be bothered memorizing, which was an absolute nightmare at school. Memorizing useless details (certainly about historical events) only to forget them the day after the interrogation was just the most Te-inefficiënt use of valuable energy. Not to speak of the annoyance of my Ni desperately trying to find valuable and insightful patterns where there are none. I can only imagine it to be absolute Te- and Ni-horror for any ENTJ. If somebody were able to stop this torture, I wouldn't remember who and when, but I would be thankful.
Well not an entj, but had the same experience with history
Anyways I'm now in collage and today we started new semester today and guess that - one of new things is design liguistics and teacher reiweved that we will do over the semester. And with every new task it got worse.
For the first one we need to do a presentation about either document filling or language history. Well not the best task since it will require being overly detailed but I have pretty good public speech skills so I can get by will less details when required. For the second one its the same, but this time I'll need to choose between multiple language mistakes people are doing (again not ideal). And when the we reached the third one... And this one was absolute nail.
First part of is to write 100 words used in graphic design with their meanings, which is a monotone as it can get. 50 of them need to be proper and 50 of them not really. When in a middle of that teacher corrected herself that she meant that 2 terms make 1 unit (seriously have no idea how deprived someone needs to be to say that instead of just saying that we need to find 200 words used in graphic design). When she started telling about we need to write sentences with those words. Like I'm sitting at fucking collage and I will have an assigned task meant for kindergarden kids, which is requires zero intellect and is absolute waste of time. Now as she was telling this I imagined how I was doing this, I already started feeling dizzy, but tryed to remind myself that it's just the second part of this nightmare. WHEN SHE CORRECTED HERSELF AGAIN, THAT IT IS STILL FIRST TASK OF THE TASK. At this point my headache started. Well guess thats for second part.
It's fucking document filling literally. So at that point I was so exhausted from hearing about that, that I asked if can prove to hear that I fill documents on my daily basis, but they are with other people names, so I cannot present them, to excuse myslef from that part. Well it appaers that she meant that we need to write 20 documents ourselfs following correct procedures. Well I didnt hear the end of it, since at that moment I felt like I will black out and just walked pit of class
That's why Se is the partner of Ni, it doesn't want to categorize information like Si. Let Ni do it.
"This pace is very slow"- the struggle is real😂 INFP
I sympathize.
INTP.
The brightside is when I make my moves it's deliberate and overly thought out. INTP
Excuuuuuse ME!! 😂
Slow yes... but slow enough to take the important things in, things that others miss ~ Nathan
Definitely felt called out in the INFP section 😂 especially with being seen as detached from the physical world
As an INFJ, I think how I struggle with Te is accepting other people's ways of doing things. I HAVE to think it through MYSELF with Ti. I just cannot listen to someone else telling me how something works, I have to tap into my own understanding of how it works, even if it takes longer
Im an ENTP but i super relate to Te Blindspot and ISFJ weaknesses too. It makes me confused because the situation you described makes me stressed and I often overthink because I don't trust other people's methods and it doesn't click until I try my own and realize its better or it isn't. It also makes me feel like I have to learn the hard way, and getting rid of bad habits is difficult af
@@entropy8000 thats really interesting, i'm an INFJ but i relate a lot to Fi POLR and also somewhat relate to the descriptions for ENTP
You’re not an INFJ
@l34h6
Why do you think so?
@@snowflake1762 Maybe you're an ESTP, which is INFJ upside down, mixing up your higher and lower functions
That’s actually not so true w me as an ENFP. My Te takes care of the objective side of me.
Te is definitely underrated in ENFPs and ESFPs. I hadn’t thought about what your type is, I’m curious when/how you figured out you were an ENFP? ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I’ve taken the test like 20 times throughout my life. And personality type expert @eric wen confirmed it too.
Well ENFPs are probably the most charming type so you know... it makes sense!
@@lovewho other weird things about my type.... my Fi is just as strong as my Ne. Can u explain that?
@@AnthonyRecenello Well a person's top two functions are going to be pretty evenly matched in terms of strength and amount of usage so feeling like your Ne and Fi are balanced is not an unusual thing.
There is a strange thing that happens when people are typing themselves, they'll often see their middle two or bottom two functions more clearly since their top function is so natural to them - it's the lens through which they view the world. As a result it's hard to even notice it.
Also you could just have developed your Fi more over time. More well developed versions of a type will have less of an imbalance between their functions.
Do you resonate with some of the Si inferior issues?
I'm an ENTP and i remembered three situations :
1. It was my birthday and me and my friends had a very good day and at the end of the day one of them asked "are you happy?" and i legit didn't know what say. I just didn't know.
2. I was walking with a friend that i was starting to get close to and i was think "do i really like her??" and again i couldn't answer that.
3. I have this one person who was my best friend and then door slammed me for no reason _for real i was depressed and heartbroken for months_ but since then and till today when people ask me if i hate her or not, i can't answer. I know that i don't hate her but at the same time i'm pretty sure i don't like her, i just don't know how i feel about her.
You pretty much nailed it with the "fi ignoring" even your examples are accurate, i can never decide which song is my favorite and other stuff like that
Isn't fi ignoring An Fe dom thing
Fi polr would be different right
I didn't watch the video yet
Learning that Fe polr existed is what got me hooked on mbti. "You mean other people have a 'sense' of how what they do/say will make other people feel?...they just know?...whaaaaattttt. I must study this."
Such an INTJ comment ~ Nathan
@@lovewho *S 😉
As an ISFJ, with Fe as my second highest function, I was pretty confused to discover that this wasn't just a basic part of everyone's mind. :) You fascinate me, too! And I envy your mental/emotional strength and ability to stand apart from the vortex of others' feelings- we Fe people need you!!
I relate to what you said. I emulate Fe by Ni predicting social outcomes before I say based on Fi. I often then have to hold my Te back, or there will be a conflict in which even more Fe is required to resolve. It's awful.
As an INFJ it isn't like we "have "sense" of how what we do/say makes in other people feel". But more: we feel the others emotions more than ours and then react to this with instinct unconsciously trying to find some harmony in the relation because the disharmony makes us crazy and we need social approval. I often mystyped myself in the past as intp or intj because my sense of being myself depends on logic and I strugled with feelings: only after I learned to separate my feelings from the others's feelings and learned some logical definitions of emotions I could use the empathic understand to manipulate consciously these things.
Short, informative, no bs, just what I subscribed for.
Great job!
lol you sound a bit Entj
@@georgevourtzoumis2967 Maybe, but I'm Infp and those were my thoughts exactly as well
Glad to hear it! ~ Nathan
Yes! :) entp agrees
@@georgevourtzoumis2967 I think appreciating the lack of bullshit is something every type can do
For ESTJs and ESFJs, i think that Ni polr can also manifest as being incredibly stuck on a single goal- like so focused on it they can’t adapt it.
Interesting! I can see this being the case with my mother who I believe is an ESTJ ~ Nathan
Maybe they have trouble realizing something new, which would make them grow to a level of being that would change things...
@@tillywontspeak I don't think they have much problem of seeing "new" possibilities having Ne child as their tertiary function.
Ni poLR confirmed (ESxJ)
I used to fit in most of the characteristics of an Ni poLR user explained in the video.
But 2023 was a turning point year where :
1/ I deep dived into MBTI (out of curiosity) which led me to get more in touch with my weaknesses (notably learning to get more in touch with my values and life purposes)
2/ I experienced depression. Thanks to 1/, I easily identified the cause of my depression
= having established a routine for the last 5 years that gradually drove me away from my main life goal.
I've learned my lesson creating spaces to be contempaltive, and questionning every now and then how relevant my routines are to serve the purposes i'm seeking.
Thank you MBTI.
Having Ne Polr is strange. When we ISTP's/ISFP's decide to do something, they will often become so extremely focused on their Ni+Ti/Fi way of doing it that they completely ignore all other possibilities, which can be both good and bad i guess.
Ísleifur Arnórsson can confirm as an ISFP. I HATE brainstorming when I already like an idea.
As an INFP i find this sooo fascinating! I don't like doing anything - i do it a thousand times in a thousand different ways in my head. it's so much more fun and better that way :'D I now know two isfps and they always stare very hard at me when i'm talking to them to pretend that they are listening. i now realise that they are just watching my facial expressions
You're right to describe it as being double edged because being distracted by possibilities to the point of being indecisive is equally as dangerous as having tunnel vision ~ Nathan
As an infp I relate with both the infp/intp one and the enfp/esfp one
I'm not sure I relate to that one
I relate to isfj and infj tho
I'm infp ;-)
Yes I'm infp😂👌 I have an intp friend we usually relate to each other on how people are not wise in their life choices. From what i can see infp long term memory are more focus on life and social interactions more than intp meanwhile the intp use his long term memory on more system based problems not so much in social events, although i must say (intp) that kind of usage of long term memory a.k.a Si-child, that hold up on past arguments 👌 dope.
I see INFPs everywhere and they are amazing - an ENTP
Also I as an ENTP relate to the INFP one kinda too
This is called Barnum effect
INTJ here. Fe Polr. Very very accurate. Fe is my least favorite function and the function that I am the most annoyed to try and develop. The harmonious environment has value and learning how to deliver a message/content/experience to a social gathering is needed but I have observed that a lot of genuine and authentic expression as well as truth is often sacrificed due to the fragile feelings of the group. But sometimes the discussion or presentation of such topics is imperative and much needed to be discussed to create a solution and a base line for understanding. I have found that high Fe users are highly reactive and take things personal that are not intended to be taken offensive.
True authentic expression tends to be sacrificed to bend to the will of the Fe crowd making most social gatherings feel very fake, cohersed, and even rehearsed sometimes.
As an INFJ, I think the Te PoLR description was pretty good. To specify the struggle with this: INFJs struggle with jumping from their "ideal world" in their heads into the Te reality of things. They also can find it hard to make their visions a reality, because it might not be as good as they imagined it to be. Wenzes describes this well on her TH-cam channel, for example, and helped me a lot with my personal growth.
Wow this description makes really sense.
I mean really makes sense
As someone who has studied the MBTI for over two decades, this is by far the most accurate channel I've found on the subject. Great insights.
This is fascinating. I'm an INTP, and the PoLR Se makes total sense to me. I am absolutely oblivious in many ways to what is going on around me, in terms of taking in sensory information. In fact, I'm very good at blocking it out, in order to focus on what I'm thinking about or working on. If I'm reading, my hearing shuts off. If I'm working at my desk, the clutter piles up and it doesn't bother me in the least, but I have a really difficult time finding what I'm looking for if it's stored in a container or on a shelf or in a drawer that has too many other things lumped together, without a detailed division and organization of that container/shelf/drawer.
Having Fi poLR is like having three options for emotional reactions: 1) Happy 2) Frustrated 3) Neutral. I have always wondered what it would feel like to comprehend a more granular set of sincere emotions, but ya know....I wouldn’t recognize myself.
Having Fi dominant, being neutral is my life-long goal lol ever been on a roller-coaster ride? Well, for Fi doms life is a roller coaster ride.
I can see emotions as real substances. And as having Se poLR nothing is f real in my head. It's like living in a drawing kinda awkward. I wonder how having poLR fi really feels like.
Sasha I couldn't agree more
I would genuinely be happy (pardon the expression) with a mainly neutral emotional life. I'm kind of classing things like excitement/adrenaline as non-emotions which might be inaccurate... but nonetheless 'mainly neutral' would be perfection ~ Nathan
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It has its pros (being the most neutral person ever) and its cons (apathy of other’s and your own true emotions)
ENFP here and so true! I’ve always realized that I have to ‘feel’ (have passion/want to do/like/find it interesting?) things to do certain things! So far I haven’t found my PoLR Ti debilitating, and sometimes others and even I find it cute. But it always amazes me how some people can just do or act in such dispassionate and not feeling associated ways.
*groom for Indian wedding at the hotel/venue I work at goes by on golden horse with drummers surrounding him, dancing*
Coworker: omg omg did you see that?
Me, and INTP: what? No I missed it!!! I was trying to figure something out!
I have slept through building work including a drill right outside the door and probably a number of burglaries ~ Nathan
Love Who my work’s fire alarm went off a few days ago and I barely even noticed. It was like nothing even happened.
Haha I slept through an earthquake. The shaking woke me up but I couldn't care less so just went back to sleep.
i’m an INTP too and all of you are so relatable
Can relate! I slept through passing military aircrafts which are usually loud as hell -ENTP
Well, this theory sounds about right to me. As an INFP, moving at my own pace and hating being rushed is definitely one of my biggest weaknesses. But I also do not work well at someone else's pace, so I just know I have to leave myself extra time to do things.
Personally I'm a fan of the INFP pace of life ~ Nathan
At work, I will work as fast as possible to get things done. But I work in the medical field..and most patients are slow. So I'll go crazy and rush through the halls, only to slow down to a snail's pace once I'm with patients. Besides, I want to treat everyone impartially and with dignity, so I give everyone the time and space they need. It feels weird when people tell me to hurry up, though..because I really just want to go, go, go.
Once I had a tiny sociological discussion with an ISTP and convinced him of my point, then after some seconds I told him I really wasn't sure about it and that I was just messing with him, and he never talked to me ever again. enjoyable times.
Protip: convicing an istp of an opinion you have and then saying your unsure about it makes them feel stupid for buying into what you said. We loathe feeling stupid.
You make me lough, what is your personality
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ENTP for sure
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@@Jack-vn8jy True but also it makes me think the other person has no convictions, they're wishy washy and therefore untrustworthy. It's one less person for me to give a shit about, so wins all round lol.
The entp one is incredibly accurate. The fact that I can't make up my mind on anything is bothersome and from time to time almost unbearable. I find myself talking about things and arguing with people about ideas that I don't even believe on, and I have this constant perception that in reality none of my thoughts is actually mine, but just an agglomeration of other people's thoughts and ideas that I kind of "read" in their mind, because I can't actually stand for anything, and for that I sometimes feel shallow and empty, like if my mind is not actually valuable, and my intelligence is just a waste. In my life, this translates in not being able to actually get deeper with my friends, because sometimes I feel that I don't like them at all, and not being able to be happy and consistent with my choices. It was something that is seriously driving me crazy, thank you for putting a name on it
Wow. Estp here. I Identify completely with this. I have hurt a lot of people (especially girlfriends) unintentionally when it finally becomes obvious that they have become attached to me and I am forever undecided ☹. Not sure Entps identify with that too.
Bruh stop describing my life bro like when I'm not around others peoples like if there isn't someone too tell me "this is good this is bad, i like that thing, i feel good about this , i just feel so empty like idk if i like someone or I pretend to like someone , idk if I really stand for this or I'm just supposed too like that and the worth part is that i don't mind if I have a reason for doing something but the fact that i don't mind it is what make me feel empty like I don't mind if I don't like something if this is the best thing too do I'll do it. Is weird bro, it weird too explain .
@@chrisohara5893 I wondered whether Fi polar made someone more likely to cheat.
the entp blind spot is so accurate, like, i always like everyone and everything until someone else points out the bad side, it`s almost like I can`t have a genuine opinion without external coercion
I'm an INTP, and it's very true about being physically detached from the environment and dislike of being pushed around. Personally I feel the Fi PoLR also fits me to a large extent.
Agree so much
So basically the question INFPs don't like would be "are we there yet?".
Yes. I rem as child my brother complaining about the ride being boring. So my dad put on tunes. And he wanted to get there. Honestly my travel sickness is the only thing that makes me want to hurry a nice country ride.
I'm just trying to imagine being driven on a road trip by an INFP.... scary stuff indeed. Me: "Are we there yet? INFP: "Where?" Me: "Oh God..." ~ Nathan
@@lovewho that made me laugh 😂😂😂 INDEED!
@@lovewho lol
@@lovewho Haha, I'm an INFP and I drive around family members on road trips quite often. I can say it never went terribly wrong thus far 😁
But yeah, I tend to be daydreaming instead of paying attention to the road more often than I should admit 😅
you talked about how with ENFP's we often have trouble engaging in something dispassionately and that is.....so true. I cannot complete something if I hate it, and if I love something it's all in for me. It's kind of a blessing and a curse:/
I'm an ENFP who has always thought Ti is the cutest/most pure function... I enjoyed philosophy and logic classes in school and have no problems with detached logical reasoning or conditional logic - unless they are applied to people.
I really relate to the shop example but I think it's because the two shops AREN'T the same for all intents and purposes. Maybe the staff at the nearer shop is rude, or going to the further one gives me more time to myself (parent of small children loves solo errands). Or there is a beautiful garden or something on the way to the further one.
I really feel I'm worse at my tertiary and inferior functions than my polr. Is that possible?
Interesting!
the two things that immediately come to mind reading this is that 1) you may not be an ENFP or 2) your development has been uneven. It could be something else I didn't think of and I don't mean to accuse you of one of the two things I did, but if you had a strong Ti role model, whether that was a parent/grandparent/friend/celebrity or whoever then you could have a more developed Ti than some other ENFP.
Oh, and also it comes down to perception. Again speaking objectively, if someone doesn't have a good grasp on their character they might see some things about them and assume that they're not so bad or that they're good, when in reality it's lacking.
Another random thought as I type, Philosophy in particular I wouldn't put on Ti, but rather a mix of functions, centered around Ne.
Hope that helps, and if it doesn't at least it might be interesting -INTP
I tend to agree with the comment below. It's interesting that you mention "
@@lovewho I can't see the rest of your comment... Did it get cut off?
@@Thr3leven thanks for taking the time to reply in detail!
I did think I was INFJ for 8 years before I was told earlier this year that I was likely ENFP, so it is possible that I've still not got my type right. At least I got the N/F/T/S, just inverted the extroversion/introversion. I know I'm NF temperament and I definitely generate infinite ideas and am allergic to implementing or finishing them, so ENFP is likely (didn't consider it before because I didn't investigate past the sparkly-unicorn-butterfly-golden-retriever stereotype which didn't fit, and also I'm conflict averse and don't like crowds or being the centre of attention, but when I learned that the E only indicates the attitude of your top function, rather than your interest in spending time with people, it all made sense).
Maybe it is perception, and maybe my grasp of the functions is insufficient (in my defense there is a wide variety of descriptions of them around the web and especially on YT). If philosophy is Ne-heavy then that could explain why I like it!
You're probably also right about development - am married to an ENTJ and have had to accept and develop Te as a survival mechanism lol. Maybe I felt Ti was highly valued at school and leaned into it.
Is the fact that I'm interested in exploring/delving into this but not adamant about getting to the actual exact bottom of it indicative of weak Ti? ^^
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@@meganm4877 Well... maybe
I'm more of an armchair 'typologist' here, but what I know is that that is a relationship people often have with their inferior function (The 4th in your stack, often it is romanticized and longed for even though the person isn't great with it). ONLY based on your two comments I would gander you might be an INFP, seeing as you thought you might be an INFJ and on the surface it's not far off, though that's only a guess.
All in all I would recommend looking around some more. If you can have an objective eye, going through every letter (I and E, S and N, etc) and look at them, even the ones you're more sure about and try to piece it together, then look up some stuff that that particular type has in terms of behaviors. If you can't seem to be objective about it, bring in a friend who can be frank with you (that can really help). Tests are fine, but with something as complicated as people it's hard to write a good one that will accurately pinpoint your actual type.
And thank _you_ for listening to the ramblings of a madman XD
as an INFP,
I guess that's why my family gets easily annoyed when something new happens around the house and they're all talking about it and I'm like "What? Why? what's happening?" xD
another thing I get scolded for a lot is whenever our dog barks outside and I'm too busy with myself and my mom just goes "Do you not care what's happening outside? Could be the dog alerting a person or worse, a thief and you're just sitting there???"
damn XD
im an INTP. i have a developed Se, though its still my worst function. And i can relate to both the Se PoLR and, Si PoLR. i actually have somewhat bad Si for an INTP, so i do have a lot in common with ISTPs.
(as for how i developed my Se, i just forced myself to take action. turned off my brain, just did. it worked.)
Exactly! As an ENTJ, I’m always on the go, losing sleep, barely eating, yet making time to work out to “de-stress” (and then pushing myself to limits I probably shouldn’t)-sleep doesn’t matter to me if I still have things that need to get done, even if it’s weeks in advanced.
“It’s as if ENXJs prioritize their future self over their present self” is a very apt way to describe this. Lose sleep? I’ll sleep when I’m a doctor/successful/reached my life goals.
Also I’m aware that this is can highly unhealthy behavior and also has to do with perfectionism and over-controlled behavior and I’m working on it. Anyways, great video explaining PoLR functions! I’m still learning a lot about typology and discovering how PoLR functions manifest is highly informative.
I’m an INFP and I can’t ever focus on anything unless it matters to me 😂. I drop things, I zone out in boring conversations, and when I’m at work, I rarely respond the first time someone calls my name. I’m too busy pretending I’m somewhere else haha
For me INFJ, having to use Te can be described as turbulent - if I have to make a decision, especially quick, as to where many others are concerned I get an anxiety attack and need someone to feed me the decision - which I then have no trouble justifying and then calmly organising the next step.
Heard also this function being called "trickster" because it's hard to control and often we think we are making a decision with it but are completely fooled and actually follow one of our main patterns.
my parents hate it when I say "may be" instead of answering "yes". They ask "Do you want to eat pizza? I say "may be" or "do you will make this thing?" I say "may be". It's so difficult to say "yes, I want this or that" with decision
As an ISTP, I used to think little of "people skills" but later found out that we actually need it very badly. So (with the help of an INFJ) I started treating it like a skill to master instead of thinking I will never be good at talking to or understanding people. Now, I am actually even good at it, which was something I thought I'd never achieve. I found out that our inclination to just look at something for the sole purpose of understanding can be quite comforting for others, although there is a thin line that can make it feel like we are being judgemental :/
Whenever I go into a store, I'll aimlessly wonder through the aisles trying to remember what it is I'm looking for, only to be momentarily distracted from the question, by the same question, but on a broader philosophical scale.
-INFJ
As an infp I'm constantly daydreaming but I quite enjoy it. My mind can go to some really interesting places.
I once went through a 12h flight with absolutely no distraction (except for the meals of course), just fooling around in my head.
My best friend is an istp, me an infp. When I try and explain someone's motive that doesn't fit their system, down to a very detailed description, they stop listening within 3 seconds and grunt!!
@Chris U. it could be you trying to share your relief function with them, which is Si actually. Recalling detail, and information! It took me 9 months of studying and self examination to see that I am an infp. Good luck my friend!
it's hilarious! I'd just written something similar in relation to isfps. They stare so hard at you and scrunch up their faces like you're causing them pain and they're trying to be polite and follow :'D
@@noraflood6482 hahahaha youre weird :)
@@alexandermalmgren3261 I do forgive them, because I know that they have an extremely hard time seeing the good in people and in the world.. they refuse to rethink things if it doesn't fit their system. Kind of like communism. Lol!
3 seconds and a grunt is a good performance for some people... ~ Nathan
As an ISFP with Polr Ne, I definitely agree with this video. I’m married to an Ne dom ENFP, which (as you can imagine) can lead to some pretty funny conversations.
“Right, mmm hmm, yep. Those are all great ideas, but we were talking about how we are getting our daughter to school, not all the ways we can remodel our kitchen.” The TANGENTS! Ahhhhhh!!!!!
Haha!! That is hilarious ~ Nathan
"They like to move at their own pace, and that pace is very slow"
You didn't have to roast us that hard :P
Yes, please do all the functions like this. This vid was so good
I am tempted to do one like this for every function. It would be useful to have them all laid out concisely ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Yes PLEASE!!!!! It will be soooooooooooooo useful - ENTJ
Dead on! ENTJ Tasks are priority over self: I’ll grab a cookie as lunch & run out the door to get something done. 3 hrs later realize “I haven’t eaten or drank anything since that cookie”. Also: idea 1st, details 2nd. “What if” myself to death instead of enjoying & living in the present. ps can’t remember short-term anything unless I write it down and/or make a list.
As I've mentioned in a previous ENTJ (and ENFJ) video, sometimes taking a break to do some self-care has a bigger impact on productivity than constantly pushing yourself (speaking as someone who is often guilty of the same thing) ~ Nathan
ISFP here. This year I started working on my polar Ne-seeing the joy of brainstorming and being willing to let go of previous ideas and ways of doing things. If I have to choose between quality or quantity, quality seems like the obvious choice. But I’ve learned that without a quantity of ideas to choose from (or at least more than one...) how will I be able to tell which ones have quality?
Great video!
I'm a mix between INTJ and INTP in terms of my polar function.
- Detached from the real world, in my head a lot, oblivious to my environment etc(INTP)
While also
- Somewhat emotionally detached and stoic (I can become more emotionally engaged if I talk about a subject I like, in the company of others), not playing the social game, prioritizing substance over style etc (INTJ)
What I can't subscribe to on the other hand (INTJ spalt), is not caring about maintaining harmony, or not being able to read social and emotional cues. I'm almost always aware whenever I break a social norm, but I choose to do it nonetheless, as following it just because others do so is off-putting to me. Because of this, I don't really like to engage with other people too much, as it all comes down to a social game I'm not willing to play. That's not to say I have poor social skills, it's just that if it's something completely stupid, I'm not willing to play 'the social game' so to say.
My biggest weakness is in living in the 'here and now', in the concrete world, and to have the skills necessary to navigate it successfully. I have managed to survive up to now because the 21th century allows me specialize in the few subjects I'm adept at, but I wouldn't be able to survive living the life of a normal person. Not because it would be beneath me, but because I simply don't have the practical skills to do so.
I have the same dilemma. Stuck between intj, and intp
Sounds more like intp.
You sound intp-ish.
It's fairly common for INTPs to not play the social game, INTJs and INTPs share commonality when it comes to social participation. From my perspective, you sound more like an INTP. I'm INTP-T.
It may not be that you lack the skills, entirely, and it can be good to balance yourself out more by accepting and exercising your weaker areas. At the end of the day, I do agree you should capitalize on your strengths, though.
INTJ, not gonna lie, I spent my entire childhood disrupting harmony without intending it, and suffering the consequences 'cause my mom is an ESFJ... thanks to that I can see now where I could be more careful when I interact with people, but to be honest it just doesn't seem worth it. Specially when I interact with people I don't care about, or that aren't going to be beneficial in any way
Well, if you think that it isn't worth to be careful of harmony in social interactions specially with people you don't care about or that aren't going to be beneficial in any way... I'd say that you're focusing too much on benefits or efficiency. (My ENTJ Dad is like that too. Though now he learnt the importance of diplomacy.)
You can think like this, you don't know what the other person (the one who you're not close with) is going through or is like or is thinking/feeling at the moment. So, here you don't have to see whether it's gonna do good to you or not. Or whether it's worth or not. Maybe you got the purpose of social interactions wrong, what do you think is the purpose of talking or meeting up with friends or social groups? Is it about gaining something?
It could get subjective here. *But if you see from everyone's/group's point of view, simple purpose of social interactions we all share is; first and foremost, to have a good time. A good time that will enlighten our mood, bring smiles to everyone's faces. So when we go back home, we'll remember how happy we all together were.*
I know there are some things that we feel the urge to say or talk about, but we need to pause and think whether is it possibly harsh language or statement that's gonna hurt someone? Or is it something kind of/ very off-hand comment that's gonna catch people off-guard? Is it even the right or correct thing to say? Cuz it's very important to think before we act.
Although, I know there are always/often some people who are very toxic, energy draining or just not the kind of people we prefer to be around. So, in these cases it's not wrong to avoid them or ignore them.
We just don't want unnecessary trouble or disputes and we also want to protect ourselves.
So yeah, there's that. I hope I cleared something and this helps you. Take care! TPWK. ~INFJ
I expected to defy this description, BUT you nailed it. I often drive to a sub shop that is a mile and a half further away because instead of being in the middle of town on the mainland, it is on an island. Driving to the island brings beautiful views, fewer stoplights (better for thinking and daydreaming), and a feeling of freedom and “mini vacay” as I get closer to the sea.
ENFP here. Obviously…
I find these personality evaluations interesting, but what they don't take into account are the variables that come to play in a person's life.
For example:
A person is born with a personality. That person grows up with others that have other personalities. So depending upon how freely a person got to actually be themselves when growing up or the opposite of that with a controlling parent/guardian is a factor that needs to be considered when looking at personality types. There are always variables that come into play. Some good and some not that can affect how a person feels in being able to be their true self.
Another example:
An ESFJ that lived in a loving and caring home would be more likely to be able to express their personality. Whereas, an ESFJ that lived in a nelegated/abusive home would most likely been denied their own right to freely express their personality, whereby, causing them to be less like the personality they were born with.
AKA: You got a sweet warm caring dog that wags its tail with joy. If that same dog was abused it withdrawals from being open to being it's true self into an intimidated dog unless that dog is given time to heal from its wounds by a sweet, caring, warm human being.
So when I read these characteristics I also take into consideration
that life and what it throws at us is a major influence in how one can or cannot be their true self or even be accepted as their true self.
I think it's best to appreciate all types even if they don't match up with you by at least being hospitalible.
Being kind to one another goes a long way even if you don't like their personality type, especially in today's world.
I fully agree but when you understand the functions at their core, you’ll see how they shape people on a simple general level. So for an ESFJ they have extraverted feeling so it really doesn’t matter how much abuse there might be they will always be empathetic or the opposite of it (INTP) they won’t ever be on extremes with their perception functions (Ni Ne Si Se) so they always gonna have people problems. An esfj in a hood house hood is gonna love people and empathize. But an abused one will probably hate people and may or not be empathetic. But still people related problems. Take an INFJ the same situation and they won’t have the same kind of people problem like the esfj Bc we are born with perception problems however that would look. And all the functions break down to decisions and perspectives
Fi PoLR: putting your emotions into perspective until they're gone, but not giving into nihilism because of, well... distractions and stimuli.
Great comment lol ~ Nathan
hahah
INTJ ,it does happen quite sometimese that people assume i've 'had enough' of their behaviours , and I reply with all good intent that I didn't care to begin with....
and then they go with 'it was a joke'.
I don't quite get it ngl
As an ISTJ, I find that I can actually read people quite well, but it's as though my brain won't let me act on that information. I don't like people "reading" me so I feel uncomfortable "reading" them, and I sometimes end up ignoring social cues despite being painfully aware of them. For example, in a situation where I know full well that the other person wants me to be more casual, I won't change my behaviour unless I have concrete evidence of that. It's as though I expect to be challenged to explain my behaviour and it would be "against the rules" to "guess" what others are thinking.
I have the same issue lmao. Not sure if mine’s Fe-polr or inf but i can tell when ppl want me to talk more but i just refuse to do so cuz making small talk just feels so awkward and pointless to me idk. Like when i greet someone w usual “good morning” and leave the conversation at that but i can tell they’re expecting more and i just dont wanna talk or be there lol
^^^ THIS EXACTLY with my polr Te and weak Se it's like i can tell what im missing/doing wrong, but my brain won't let me act on it
Te Trickster:
-Hates bureaucracy
-Disorganized to onlookers but actually is organized chaos
bureaucracy is the worst thing in the world.
I'm an ENFP and I've always had a hard time associating Ti as my PoLR function, mainly because all my life I've been inclined towards the STEM fields, I even first mistyped as INTP.
This vid made me understand what Ti PoLR really means and instantly saw how it applies to me, all my life I've made stupid decisions on matters that were majorly impactful. Most of those decisions I've even made them _knowing_ that they were objectively stupid, but I made them anyways because it was what I felt like doing at the time and could not do otherwise. When faced with intelligence and stupidity, I have a track record for choosing stupidity. The worst part of it all is that I keep doing it.
fax-my friend.i too made r* tarded decisions too. Idk why but I always do dumb decisions because I simply feel like it.dont know why I thought it was worth it but I done it and go on to regret it what I did and the cycle repeats in an inconsistent manner as always because enfps are consistently inconsistent
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 but we ENFP as we grow and learn from our mistake we become someone who's like a wizard, a magical transcended creature, a phoenix and a unicorn combined in whatever field we're in.
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But then throw it all out because we found thousand other new interests💀
It's very funny reading Fi PoLR as an INFP because it looks so alien.
One symptom of Se PoLR for me might be finding more pleasure in watching something rather than participating in it (from a conversation to a tabletop game), which might seem absurd to many people.
I am INFJ (Se inferior), and everyday at my window, I just watch what happen outside, if something happen or not, just watch the world as it is. Just observe.
For example :
_The sky the night, watch the stars.
_Observe people walking, waiting, take the tramway, the cars moving.
As an INTP, this is spot on. I am extremely oblivious to my environment. When I do notice physical things in my environment (eventually), I start to see lots of flaws, then I think about all the ways that could be employed to fix that problem, or even go so far as to think about a greater flaw in which this one small thing is a problem within, and then when I have thought through all of my solutions I do absolutely nothing about it.
I love how you end the video like that XD Your editing style just makes me happy every time.
Also, as an ENFP, I can agree that Ti is hard. I like to pride myself that I'm a very practical, innovative, and hard working person (Te child), but if I'm not carful I can end up working (sometimes quite diligently) on projects that are not a logical use of my time (Ti PoLR). (Lol - for example, wording this comment perfectly.) Like an ESTP with emotional elements, it's difficult for me to quantify the logical elements in my life.
"It is remarkable how I am never quite clear about the motives for any of my decisions. Is that a sign of confusion, of inner dishonesty, or is it a sign that we are guided [i.e., by God] without our knowing, or is it both?" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
ENFPs always have method to their apparent madness! ~ Nathan
ooh yes i also feel/felt quite Te heavy as an enfp, but still definitely enfp. i think it's because i'm autistic + grew up as the outcasted gifted child with my mom being an emotionally unavailable esfj, so i learned to dismiss feelings and try to focus on """real logic""" because it's what i was taught was right.
INTP is both the slowest and fastest at the same time. INTP hours before a deadline is an unstoppable force.
Rel (INFP) 🤣
ENFPs working on our Ti POLR can really help with some of our irrational fears in everyday life - to understand that some things are more likely to happen under certain conditions. It helps to have Ti people around you I think
On the other hand, I also think that ignoring your POLR function can help you stand out and do your own thing by not being limited by it. It’s a balance - how to stay sane while also not letting it limit you
My brother is an ENTP and his Ti can tire me out, whereas I have a friend who's and INTP and there's not so much 🤷🏾♀️
This really hit home
Se polar, my detachment from the real world makes me clumsy and I am forever dropping things but that is adorable, right? INFP awkward
I’m clumsy too I fell over a rock and broke my arm it was like 2 or 3 years ago so I’m better now
@@alexandermalmgren3261 That is a very sweet way of putting it😊
@@alexandermalmgren3261 I have received quite the mixed bag of comments from my friends. Some think I'm cute and fluffy, others that I'm an idiot, and a few think I'm somehow a forest witch. But all of them have agreed on one thing: "If there was ever one of us who'd actually go through with murder, it would be you. None of us would want to be in your presence when you actually lose it one day.". I guess fluffy, cute, magical, idiotic and don't-get-angry types are seen as scary murderers.
@@emelieha I'm the most gentle, easy going guy ever. But when I get angry, I go crazy. GYAHH! But luckily, I'm only angry in my head, and I don't show aggression..unless I'm driving.
@@CaveyMoth Hahaha I can definitely relate xD Cue the high-energy rock music, I'm going for a drive.
INFJ Te PoLR here.
I hate it when others need me to follow their decision if they totally disregard my opinions, because I have though of it well enough to put it into the table.
I am unable to follow steps if I don't see the whole flow first to understand the function of that step.
Panic when I have to make quick decisions because I like to think it through.
As an istp I have had a lot of problems with Isfj’s /infj at work wanting to do their own thing in a not so efficient way. I’ve also had an esfj talk my ear off so bad about things I don’t care about that I literally clocked out mentally..
I've known quite a few ENFJs and I've never known them to neglect small details. If anything, they are very fussy about small details. It drives me absolutely insane and I can't spend much time around them in a home environment
Enfj here, after my experiences in an extremely competitive high school where I'd have to sacrifice food or sleep in order to achieve my multiple goals and ambitions (mainly performing what was expected from me as club leader / student council member etc) I went to college and asked my friends "What would you rather give up, food or sleep?" only to meet with those baffled looks and shocks... Lollllll
Was watching boy meets world and Eric is enfp I think so his polr is ti: he was walking in with his friend after failing his driving test cuz he drove forward hitting a car cuz he saw someone wave him up, "how was I suppose to know he wasn't the DMV guy" he says, his friend replied "most DMV officers aren't waving ppl up with a beer can in their hands"
As an INTJ, that list makes me proud 👍
So annoying 😉🤓, said the ENTP
Why I feel like it's so INTJ thing to say? ;D i dated ISTJ and this basically described him :)
That was my exact response also
I will make myself a cup of tea as a reward ~ Nathan
Yes! Me too!
Hello, I have Fi PoLR & I constantly ask myself "What would make sense for me to feel right now?" instead of "What do I actually feel?" I keep forgetting that emotions sometimes just don't make sense, and knowing that they don't make sense doesn't mean you feel something else.
My weakest functions are definitely Fe, Se and Si. I get carried away when I need to do a lot of routine work. I don’t have a specific memory like my wife, who’s an ESFJ. I’m argumentative and people say I look displeased or angry most of the time. So, I need to consciously put on a happy face. When I have to explain things I have to focus a lot on being specific and it drains me very fast. I’m polite, but being so is how I was raised. When I get angry with people, I become aggressive, brash and offensive. I don’t like to shout or when others shout, but when angry shouting comes naturally to me.
To define Te polar, for ISFJ and INFJ, the first thing coming to my mind is their crippling perfectionism. Their course of action is based on intuition instead of the empirical logic of Te... so these types chase after a pipe dream, leaving mixed but potentially positive results.
Person- Hey ENFP why did you do X
ENFP- Because I felt like it
Person- No I want to understand the underlying logic behind your decisions
ENFP- Wanting to do something is not a good enough reason on it's own?.....
I'm ISFJ and I agree with mine completely. I'm very organized and methodical and yet I am a horrible procrastinator and sometimes I let my organization go to the wayside depending on my mood. I also find it hard to make decisions on the spot. I would rather make a list of pros and cons and use that to make a decision. Very rarely do I make a split second decision. I get lost in my head all the time.
I've learned that my PoLR is Se for quite some time now but you definitely put it into word for me. For the longest time, i assumed that my Se PoLR means I'm a bit selfish and not care much about other's experience rather than mine (Si Tertiary) but this makes a lot more sense!
I space out almost entirely while writing or drawing, to the point where i lose the sense of time. It's like my other senses just turn off so i can focus on what i am working on. It's easier to think that way for sure, since i won't be overwhelmed by noises and people talking.
I also REALLY REALLY REALLY hate when people rush my work. It just sucks away all my motivation and fun out of the experience. Would they prefer a poorly researched and mediocre product?
I really need to work on it though, since i can space out in the middle of a video chat looking at something else. Turns out, the ones with short attention span aren't ENFPs but INxPs haha
Probably the best explanation I’ve seen on the PoLR functions. Thanks for sharing!
That's really great to hear, thank you very much ~ Nathan
I'm an ENFJ and I don't remember Si manifesting in my life.
I am an ENTP. While texting, my ESFP friend told me that there were times when she hated me and times when she loved me. She asked me how I felt about her I replied that I have never hated or loved her.
This came out rude though 😬
This video as cleared my doubt regarding whether I was am ENTP or INTP, My Fi is more weak than my Se.
Thank you
I've been officially typed ISTJ both from Objective Personality and Meghan LeVota. The Fe PoLR description described me up to my college years. Now I would say Se PoLR actually describes me the best. Interestingly I have been officially typed by Jack from World Socionics society as LII, which has Se PoLR, although some in the socionics community do not agree with that typing.
I am an INFP I am slow but I have noticed that the speed at which I think of the different possibilities is actually fast.
Often skipping from one possibility to another and then getting back to it.
Writing down them does slow this Speed but I notice that it happens at a loss.
But then I am not able to store those amazing conclusion that I make which makes me think exactly the same thing again some time later.
I try to record but then my brain goes blank.
Very interesting. I love these videos that help you distinguish and compare types to each other. Not just stereotypes but actual insights here! My boyfriend is an ISTJ and his polr Fe is a problem for me (ISFJ) because reading other people's social and emotional cues comes very naturally for me and I keep forgetting it's definitely not so for him 😹 Likewise, my poor Te must be really frustrating for him. I think I need to make a "personal connection" to data or "integrate it into my own logical system" before I'm able to take it in and understand what it means, whereas he can just absorb and analyse everything right away... Even as a student I would write and draw my own notes (dozens of pages, lol, 'cause you know I love details) and read them instead of text books.
Hi, ISTJ here, can you tell me how is your relationship is going with your istj. How you feel about him. How you live your life together. I am curious and I want to know about you two bcs I love one ISFJ girl.
INTP with Se PoLR here. For me it manifests as me being absentminded and day dreamt constantly. I bump into things and drop things more than most other people. I also tend to be indecisive and hate spontaneity.
My ENTP self is known as the master of ‘on the other hand’ or playing devil’s advocate. I guess I don’t feel a lot of emotional investment in things and can therefore see a reasonable range of good and bad qualities in everything. I guess I take everything as being, in a sense, its own thing, not necessarily comparable to anything else.
"The master of 'on the other hand'" - love that! ~ Nathan
INTJ- Thanks a bunch for this! I've been trying to figure out the exact meanings of each function for a while. Now I can finally find a job using my strengths! Thanks!
I'd say having Fx as a PolR can be potentially terrible. It means that to a certain extent, you have problems with the emotional part of your personality. I can't speak for Fi PolrS, but I can add a bit more to the PolR Fe part.
Fe can be related to social skills, but no necessarily. Fe sort of takes the job of externalizing how you feel, which can lead to problems when an IXTJ needs help but cannot express it, which probably relates to the stoic point, but I wanted to go a but further. Fe is a cruel mistress
Could you explain this ? I feel like i can easily show my fi to others when i’m in distress
I definitely agree as ENFP it's usually worth an extra expenditure of energy for me to go with something I feel an affinity for, rather than something I don't. But I just see affinity as another quantifiable variable. If I don't have the energy, (time, money) I'll go where I don't need to spend energy. But people apparently see me as pragmatic and I admit to a certain scorpionic efficiency when it suits me. My INTP ex accused "the end always justifies the means with you" and my ISTJ husband and ESFP mother think I also fit the description of ENTP as I like to fight (but I argue for what I believe, the fight actually hurts me at a certain point, I simply just won't give up until I win, draw or take the house down with me- this is I think where the idea of ENFP "champion" comes from). But mom had to admit having known me as a child I was NF not NT.
I think also if you are highly formally educated, like at an ivy level university I was challenged to the conditional logic type stuff -- if it's pattern related like those tests or if it's logic in words I am grear, but stuff like music theory and calculus was very challenging. I think my Te started developing more in 30s and 40s.
My mom ESFP is much less able to try on different worldviews and reason why she has an affinity for something, but I dunno if this is because she keeps with Se or because she is limited by an 8th grade education.
As an INFP with ADHD, this is really spot on. Pretty much everything that was presented under Se PoLR traits are symptoms of ADHD. I feel like there could be a link between xNxP personality types and ADHD.
^^ facts
@@MrROCKNROLLA999 its weak Si too...I suck T keeping track of physical objects...I cant stay organized before my ping pong brain traits show up LOL
There's a Personality Hacker podcast on ADHD that says it's more attributable to Fi, but is very common in both INFPs & ENFPs.
Am an ENTP with (late life dx'd) ADHD inattentive type. It's a bear, let me tell you. The last few decades of my life all make sense now. 😂
All hell broke loose when both my kids reached school age and I had to coordinate all of our Life schedules.
I recently realized that I cannot work a 1st shift job (has to be 2nd or 3rd shift). If I am not late myself, I still manage to make at least one of my kids late. Almost 50 tardies last school year, mostly because of me. I don't know how people with more than 2 kids manage to get anywhere on time.
Add to that losing and misplacing everything. I work for a state park and I literally lost All of Access Keys and am going to buy a metal detector today to try to find them on my day off.
I end up doing the dumbest things sometimes, I swear, and I am not a dumb person.
Oh definitely
Firstly, really great video Nathan, and enjoying reading through these comments too. While I'm not yet cast iron sure of my type, I can definitely relate to having poor Se. Completely live in my head; have zero sense of direction; walk into things every day; drop/break stuff; forget where I've put things (keys/phone); and never can find what I'm looking for in shops. Oh, and the hand sanitising machine directly at the entrance of my work that we all absolutely must use? Yeah, I walk past it, too, without noticing... 🙃
Interesting. So that would suggest INTP or INFP and possibly INFJ or INTJ too! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Exactly Nathan. Feel like I've been on a relentless quest in recent times to figure out which type I am. Interestingly, I consistently score 5w4 on the Enneagram, which can be drawn back to the MBTI types you have mentioned there
ISTP:
“Skeptical of highly novel and innovative approaches and favour more grounded and straightforward methods”
Skeptical, yes, but also curious and potentially interested especially when it comes to new technology. If a new approach makes sense (to us) we are quick to adopt it and abandon the old ones.
As an INTP, I agree with this. I’ve gotten better at focusing on the real world, but it’s still hard sometimes. I also have noticed that I’ll have trouble living in the moment, making quick decisions without overthinking, and being spontaneous. My Ti-Ne is almost always looking to the possibilities, and trying to decide how I’m supposed to logically handle the future. I also can sometimes use Si and get stuck in certain past scenarios, but not as often. Or I’ll just end up daydreaming.
Just confirms even more that I’m an INTJ lol
I didn't know until now that Fe is my (INTJ) polar function but it makes a lot of sense. I've never given even the remotest of fucks about social conventions and as a result cause controversy wherever I go.
Si polar causes difficulty in being loyal to someone fully, or completely committing to a cause.
INTPs and INFPs also aren't really interested in new experiences. They feel that they can already imagine what it will be like and decide that way if it's worth it or not. They also like to be comfortable and if they like something they will just do the same thing over and over. They will eat the same food, go to the same place on vacation, watch the same movie, etc. It's relaxing to them.
Things like parties and crowded places make them uncomfortable and they will run away fast. They also don't usually have an interest in drugs, or alcohol unless it's something they already like. They will not do something for the sake of new experience, unless it's an Ne novelty where they can't imagine what will happen.
For me I'm not interested in sigarets, but I would try DMT for the sake of finding new patterns in the universe and gaining a broader perspective.
Im pretty sure this video has confirmed that I am ENTP. I have been wondering if I’m INTP or ENTP even though I consistently test ENTP on many tests. I’m probably more logical than most ENTPs and i have been close to being an introvert. I relate soooo well to the Fi blind spotz more so than Se though. (Even though i kinda kinda relate to that too). I can’t ever choose what I like and what I don’t like. People ask me “what is your favorite _______?” It happens with almost everything! EVEN STUFF I LIKE. And I have the hardest time. Most of the time I just make something up cause I honestly don’t know or don’t care. I don’t always see the value, but I realize this probably leads to my indecisiveness in practically everything from choosing my future career, partner, and hobbies. Im sincerely lost.
I am amazing in high intensity/crisis situations and use Te and Ti quite well. If nothing very urgent is taking place, you will find me doing literally what you said, "Driving to a faraway store just because I like it more". I resonate with the ENFP below who said, "The stores aren't the same, even if they have the same items I need". Yeah, because I'm going to experience everything about that store. If I go to a store with friendly people, a nice aesthetic layout, new merchandise to explore, a good coffee shop next door, and I purchase towels, I am going to arrive home energized, inspired and in a state of flow. If I go to an ugly store with grumpy people and see nothing interesting, I will arrive home energetically drained. I'll probably be too depleted to bring the towels inside. I'll leave them in the car for too long and probably spill coffee on them. I will have to go out again and buy more. It saves time and resources to just drive farther and go to the store I like. I'm not driving there for no reason, now am I?
Perfect example - he said “even though they’re pretty much the same store” and instead of using that factor, you now made your own new factor to make it so his conceptual store example now becomes a store that you want it to be “well they aren’t the same store to me”. You’ve not used the data he used and have turned it into the logic you’d like to argue (not dispassionately). If the argument is 1+2=3, you disagree. You say the answer cannot be 3 when 2+2=4.