Should You Buy a MERCEDES CL? (Test Drive & Review CL500 C216)
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This was painful to watch tbh, even 4 years after selling mine, I still regret it. There is nothing better (used) you can buy for the money, but definitely get a well pampered one, anything else and you risk turning a dream into an expensive nightmare. However, while I had the 550 (the 500 in Canada) I think I would look for the 63amg if possible, just for the better handling and all round performance. Here is why: While the engine certainly had plenty of power, the transmission felt a bit too oriented for comfort and felt like it didn’t quite take full advantage of the engine, and the plastic gear shifters on the steering wheel were as out place as they were useless. But if you drive it like a luxury oceanliner it is, then this car will outshine many far more expensive and newer vehicles.
Good point
Interesting,however I would be careful with any with any 63 engine,,they can have some expansive problems,like head bolts and cam followers.
I hope you get a CL63 ASAP, you deserve it 🙌🏽
@@HighPeakAutos I fancy Golf ⛳️
@@HighPeakAutos Please review the AMG ‘
That is a handsome wagon, and I too spend an unhealthy amount of time on Autotrader :D
Haha You're not on your own
Same
Already watching this while looking on Auto trader 😋
Same here but the only difference is that I look at cars I can’t afford!
@@jfletcher1029 you ain't the only one. !
I don't normally get too excited by Mercs but my god that is one striking looking car. Great interior too.
I agree. They usually leave me cold but this is, as you say, striking.
They are indeed fantastic cars. I've had a 2007 CL600 for 6 years now, bought at an excellent price, with a known service history at my local dealership. That last part didn't matter because there was so much things wrong at the time : leaky main radiator, leaky heater valve, and cracked front-right wheel. In the first month of ownership, I had to have these items serviced at my local independent mechanic. Next there was the gearbox which was seriously acting up (the culprit was the plug, usual suspect - we also had the mecatronic (?) interface plate changed as well as a good ATF change).
Aaaand then the engine started acting up as well and running on a single cylinder bank : OF COURSE the spark plugs were bad, because the MB delarship never deemed it relevant to change them before 145 000 km, so it took down the coil pack ( > 1400 €) and the HV transformer ( > 650 €) because no one in my area could fix those things. Good thing for me, it was before the global component shortage. So, coil pack, HV transformer, 24 spark plugs, 24 silicone boots, and lots of labor (but much cheaper than the dealership).
After that, I had to have both valve covers replaced. Once again, remove both coil packs - and not break them in the process- , lots of labor, and replace 24 spark plugs silicone boots AGAIN. They're cheap, but still.
Then, starter battery in the engine compartment - it's only fair since it was original. And then the ESP started to produce all kinds of error messages until it put the whole car in safety mode : hard steering, no parking sensors, no night vision, slow acceleration. The culprit this time was the main ESP/ABS/ABR block in the front. It was unavailable at my MB dealership because of the component shortage. I had to source one from a Polish dealer on eBay for 975 € and hope for the best. Lucky for me, the part was good, the "internal control unit fault" was gone. Also, the main onboard battery had to be replaced, because it was the factory one as well.
But ... ESP is still broken and this time, it's because the pulse ring on the RL wheel is googats. Even if it's a 20 € part, the whole axle/CV joint has to come apart for replacement. I'm confident it will solve the problem because it's the only error remaining.
And STILL, despite of all this, this car is a ton of fun to drive, both brutal and gentle. You do have to have sufficient funds to overcome all these issues - most of which are no worse than more common cars. But don't skimp! The V12 TT has some very well known electrical issues, especially with the ignition part, which is a shame because the engine block is otherwise very reliable. Spark plugs (and silicone boots!) should be changed every 35/40k km no matter what.
Oh, also, the window regulators are starting to act funny. Since this is a pillarless coupé, they move up and down every time you open and close the doors. One thing is great, though : the ABC suspension never gave me any trouble (contrary to the previous W215 one which was horrible).
The rest of the parts (brake discs, brake pads, filters, suspension parts, etc) are on the other hand ridiculously cheap, on par with lesser cars. You can pick reputable brands without blowing up your budget. It DOES eat rear tyres, though, which happens when you have to get 517 bhp/830 Nm on the floor through a single axle ...
You also have to do quite a lot of homework if you don't want to get ripped off, because "things can escalate quickly"'. Despite all those nightmares and those "endless money pit" moments, I think I'll keep the car. It has 185 000 km on the clock now and still feels and drives fantastic!
Jesus.
Update after one year driving the car : the car is cured. I just had to change both front ABS sensors (220 € VAT incl. from MB, because aftermarket are most of the time dodgy), and that's it. Apart from the yearly oil change and normal inspection (200 € Vat incl.), no other gremlins showed up. Front brake pads (240 € VAT incl. from MB) and front tyres (Michelins PS4) are on my list, but they haven't been changed since 2016. Since there's 1,5 tons on the front axle alone, I'd say it's normal wear.
The check engine light did light up two weeks ago, with no obvious symptoms. I went to my local mechanic, DTC was abnormally high charge air pressure, but the code was stored and not current. He reset the code and the light didn't come back. It cost me nothing.
@@piotr0r_ I also have a 2007 cl600, but with the renntech tune for 625 hp. I was wondering if you knew how to solve the Active headlights error that pops up frequently? Also, does your transmission make a clunk sometimes?
Man, I totally understand you. I paid 24k for mine in 2018 and maybe another 16k in the last 4 years to remove every gremlin and update every part.
The great part, you end driving a 2023 200k car at less than 20% of the original price tag. For a fan of the brand and specially this high performance high luxury model, is money well spent.
Life is too short to drive crappy cars.
You must have huge balls of steel to buy an older V12 Mercedes coupe.
That is one of the classiest cars ever made. In my opinion, at least.
No, that is a w124 coupe.. the best model after 1980.
The cl is to plastic modern look for a real classic. I say, second best model after 1980:-)
@@antoniocalimero1173 not classic, Classiest, as in a car that has a lot of class, not a classic car.
I’ve a 2008 CL 600, which I bought with 34,000 miles last year. It’s now up to 45,000 miles. Fantastic car.
Your glovebox has air struts (!) which seem to be perished- my glovebox lowers majestically, not like yours!😅
Mine had the same sticky steering wheel buttons (which do not feel up to the quality of the rest of the car), which I cured (per a TH-camr’s advice) with guitar fretboard cleaner bought off of Amazon. Sticky button problem gone!
Wonderful motorcar….
I have a 2010 CL550 and my glovebox lowers like yours "Majestically"
You're right about the steering wheel. I gotta find the facelift CL steering wheel to change up if possible
Guitar fretboard cleaner. Just learned something new!
Congrats! The 600 is the one I think I'd go for, and they're usually very temptingly priced for what they are, and not that much more than a nice 500. As far as I'm aware, the 600 isn't that much more expensive to run except fuel-wise, of course, but still significantly better than any other V12 of the time. And the main issue with the V12 being the coil packs is not that ruinous. I think if I were a sensible person, I'd already own a 600, but I'm not. I still look at DB9s and Maserati GranTurismos. However, I have learned to no longer consider Bentley Continental GTs, because of the potential for ruinous expenses, pretty much like no other car. And the fact that in every comparative review, the CL600 came out on top in every respect other than looks and brand image. Again, congrats!
Also sticky steering wheel buttons are an easy fix, 10 minutes of effort. Great car
That mpg to l/100km conversion you put in the video is a great addition to your excelent as allways reviews. Really useful for those who live outside the UK, like myself. I just wish the second hand market here in Spain had such good prices as the ones in UK, the ones that had similar prices here are often a bit rough . Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching
You should see the prices in Portugal! UK is a different league...
I've had a CL500 for 18 months. Just wonderful. And prefer it to past Bentleys and Aston Martins. It is so completely effortless. And the wooden steering wheel is fabulous.
Hi Matt, great review on one of my most favourite cars. I’ve owned mine for two years and was recently serviced at xxx autos an A service was £180, cheaper than a Fiat 500 service. When I bought my F-type I couldn’t get rid of my CL500 because I use it as a daily driver. It’s such a stunning car. Cheers for all your reviews 👍🏼😁
Hi Iain. Thats a great daily driver. Good choice
This was pretty much my dream car about 15 years ago, even though I was in my mid twenties.
Love this car, this was really the pinnacle of S-Class Coupe design, after this they went to the formless blob that we have now. Congratulations on your purchase, you'll love it
I am totally with you. The newer S560 coupe lost the incredible lines of the C216. I am planning keeping my CL63 for life, you need some money every year, but when you look what is in the same market, I just said: pass. Considering a Toyota Crown as a daily driver....
I owned and ran one for 2 and a half years and fully agree with everything you say in your excellent review , however even with a properly sorted one with great service history from new as mine was will still throw up gremlins. As you say the cars are complicated and I found the electrics could be fragile and even using a independent Mercedes specialist the repair bills were high. The adjustable suspension can go wrong and that is a very large repair bill even with sourcing parts from Europe where they are considerably cheaper than UK. Having said all that they are superb cars and the power delivery is sublime , they were built as long distance cruisers on autobahns so the cabin is a lovely place to spend time in as seats are so comfortable with so many adjustments. They need to be used regularly as they don’t like being left idle , I still regret selling it but my wallet is happier , that said I just miss the warble of the V8 and the effortless power on hand .
I am thinking about buying one (stupid me...). Can you lease specify "repair bills were high"? I don´t want this to ruin me and would like to have a rough guess. Thank you so much :)
@@Schaufelor Hi. For example the cost of repairing the adjustable suspension can run into thousands as the pump alone is over £700 and the regulator over £500. If the whole system fails and has to be replaced it would be more than the value of the car. I was quoted nearly £1000 for a replacement Command screen even from a breakers and the bill for repairing the cd stacker / MP3 player was around £500. These cars do like to be used regularly , not left idle , unless you have or have access to a garage and hook up to a trickle charger. They have two batteries , one for starting the engine and the other for the ancillary components. I would not want to put you off buying one as they are fantastic cars and probably the most comfortable I have owned and maybe I was unlucky and naive but overall it was a great experience, just not on my wallet!
@@jonathanholley8043 thanks for the information. It has been my dream car for around 15 years now. I know that it is "too expensive" for my wallet, but i would be able to pay for the regular expenses. I even have a garage in the city. I just could not handle occasional 3000€ repair bills. I will have to think about it. Do you think that there is a kilometer display range that you should not exceed when buying this car? Like 150.000 maybe?
These are fantastic. I’ve owned both a CL500 and a CL63 of this generation. Personally didn’t find the 63 too shouty - and it was quite a giggle. More agile than you’d think too.
Yeah, I also own a 2008 CL63 and is not crazy noise either. Is just what you get with such magnificent 6.2 liter NA engine.
Nothing wrong with your hobby and, like any (legal) hobby, never worry about having to justify it to anyone.
Haha fair enough
Bought my 2009 CL63 about 3 months ago with 155k km. I'm super happy I made the decision to go with this car 😁 rides good amazing. Other than it chugging fuel in the city like a madlad it's amazing.
How much did you pay looking at a 2010 for 23k 153k on the clock. Kinda afraid of the high mileage your thoughts.
@@gerardmackenzie5686 i paid 29k usd with 147k km. Only thing i repaired was suspension and air intake and some oil leaks
Another great vid. Despite Mercedes losing their way a bit over the last few years imo, this car and others from mercs history are why I consider them a few notches above BMW and Audi.
The design still looks beautiful both inside and out. The cars Merc produced from 2007 to about 2015 have also really stood the test of time in terms of build quality imo.
Totally on the same page. This are great built cars with a timeless shape. People that don't know better always think my 2008 is brand new.
Another excellent review, Matt, and what a lovely car - in every respect. Dare I say "all the car you'll ever need".
I think youre right
not if you have a dog, though I expect mine would be happy in the back seat of a CL!
@@bobmcdade5217 I had a CL (from new, eek) for 13 years, having just sold it and had 2 dogs. The last one was a Westie, who sat on a tartan cover. Both pooches were more than delighted. Loved the CL, but tripped over a S63 coupe with as low km as my CL, so loving that now.
once in a lifetime you deserve a car like this. Amen!
I just purchased one here in Australia, for all the reasons you have and agree with your assessment. I’m setting aside a few thousand $ per year for any big issues - this is my hobby so I don’t mind a bit more expense. Registration is no more expensive than a family sedan and insurance is bearable. I jus achieved 27mpg on a 300km Highway run without trying for economy.
Thats impressive. Enjoy :)
@@HighPeakAutos $308k in AUD new, mine has the 20”AMG wheels from factory, 67,000ks. Being Australia, zero rust. Obviously garaged it’s whole life too! I did pay $46k which is close to top for the 2007 here. A base Hyundai Santa Fe is $45k. It has an extended warranty to 2025 as well.
Actually, CL means coupe lang. Not to be mistaken with the SL that means indeed sport leicht (light) in german, which is rediculous given to modern ones weight. But by comparieson, CL’s name is more « acceptable » 😅
Chears
Coupé Luxusklasse (Coupé-Luxury) not lang
@@KaramelKaiseryes Lang , CL stands for “ coupe long “ … abbreviation for luxury is “S” - Sonderclasse … there is no “Luxusclasse”
I literally love these videos and it's stupendous scripts. They remind of fantastic sci-fi films - so far from reality but they take you away to another world where most of what's being said seems actually true. Brilliant production.
Thank you! Thats some compliment
I’ve had my 2010 for just under 10 years now & still haven’t lost joy driving it 😌
I really enjoy your one-liners, like ‘as rare as rocking horse droppings’ etc. They are neatly placed like sugar & spice among excellent car talk. Keep up the good work Matt, you’re soon up there with greats like Jay Leno and Harry as far as car presentation is concerned.
Thank you. Glad you like them!
Very good piece . I had a w215 CL 600 V12 bi. (Not AMG variant) I cannot begin to tell you how you appreciate why these cars are built when you take it across Europe for the weekends, pull up in your drive on a Sunday night, light a cig, leave it idling while you sit and think WTF . That feeling . Never got old. I miss it. 😔
Masterpiece of a review! Your channel keeps getting better and better!
Well done..what a ridiculous bargain. This car is built like a steel billet..Truly handsome understated luxury car. The previous models were quite awkward looking. The lines and symmetry of this car are perfect. An open feel . This is reminiscent of the Cadillac and Lincoln coupes of bygone years.
That tradition lives on in cars like Bentley Continental GT as well.
I'm just saying yes before I've even watched it! 🤣👍
Great review Matt mainly because I have a 2012 CL500 with the 4.7 litre twin turbo engine! All the points you made about buying one of these are totally valid and make sure your head rules your heart and walk away from something you have any doubts about. These are great cars and bonkers value if you get a good one. I also have a autotrader/eBay fetish and totally understand your hobby.
Thanks! How do you find the 4.7 TT V8?
Well it’s had a stage 1 remap which means it is pushing out about 510bhp and 580lb/ft torque so it is pretty quick. It is also extremely comfortable and whilst I never bought it for its fuel economy it did average 32mpg on a long run up the A1. I think it is a great car. I also have a 2003 SL500 in Jasper blue which is also a great car.
Great video.
My 2014 CL is the face-lift version that were available after 2010 and it has the newer Steering buttons, these do not go sticky and look much better than the previous ones.
The ABC in the vehicle does a really good job going round corners, so maybe yours was not working/active or not available pre face-lift.
According to Wikipedia CL stands for Coupé Leicht (Coupé-Light) or Coupé Luxusklasse (Coupé-Luxury). The later makes more sense.
My glovebox opens gracefully.
No need to stream music from your phone, just get a 32GB USB drive and connect it using the cable that comes with the car to the Media Interface Port in the glovebox. If you know how then you can get a larger capacity USB drive and partition it into 32GB each which will make all of them to be visible in the car.
Apart for the reverse lights which are better placed in the older version, I personally like the face-lift version as it looks lower and sleeker.
Great intro. Even my wife who hates all things automotive laughed (she hates golf and fishing even more). What a beast of a car - great weekend special.
Was looking at this car the other day. Absolutely spotless. A credit to the previous owner and a serious piece of kit for the money. 👍
Couldn't agree more
One of my all time favourite cars for sure this CL! Looks and engine wise. Simply lovely.
A perfect review! A car that is always overlooked and undervalued, a friend bought the earlier 2002 CL500 with one owner, 204,000 miles with perfect MB main dealer history and all bills from new totalling £90,000! Sadly the owner had died so it was sold by a grandson who on finding the gear selector to be stiff, discovered thumping it with a lump hammer made it work. Hmmm…the fix is to replace the white plastic guide selector hidden under the console but the job is horrible and involves releasing the gearbox enough to get the thing in. However..a willing ex MB a mechanic took brave pills and the parts were only about £30 plus two days hard work.. after that..it ran like a dream..not a squeak nor rustle. It felt like a 30,000 mile car and as it cost £1150, a real bargain!! I have really fancied a nearly brand new one on several occasions at £40,000+ off list but the reality of catastrophic depreciation stops me…but a new 560…that is some car!! 😬😬😬😳😎😎😎😃
The graceful curve of the shoulder line as it drops to the rear, gives a sleek fast look. Very eye catching even today.
Please do a review on the CLS MK1!
320 CDI if possible, beautiful car and still the best shape of the three by far! Iconic motor!
I concur
Great car. Picked up a CL500 2008. Its effortless, stylish and amazingly quiet with the double glazing. Lots of power when needed but you don't use it as your busy relaxing :)
One or two issues do arise but its worth it.
Fell in love with this shape cl when i first saw one in person and still think it's the best looking cl. I would go for the cl63 simply because of that engine noise. I know the cl65 is faster but prefer the cl63 noise and still has tonnes of power
Truly an amazing car. I've had a 2007 for 3 years. Its special . Forget who had the coffee, just enjoy the experience.
I love these. It's basically a S Class Coupe! One of the last Mercs to look elegant rather than aggressive.
The new S Class coupé also looks great, it's not that aggressively designed.
@@zsb707 I think it's more angular and muscular rather than elegant. It's still a fine looking thing tho.
@@MetalHead1904 True, it looks rather sporty. I love its looks.
I’ve had my c216 cl500 for 2 years now and it’s been great. I was advised not to get one by a number of people and I’m glad I never listened to them. Maintenance and fuel costs are more than your average car (£600 for new front lower arms, £500 for new abc pipe and the steering has gone slightly heavier than before I suspect new ball joints soon) but anyone who’s looking for a special driving experience this is the one to have. The naturally aspirated 5.5 is a joy to experience especially on the motorway where it’s character really shines.
I got offered £15k recently for mine 73k on the clock but I had to kindly decline, it’s my pride and joy and I’d happily keep it for the rest of my life and not replace it.
They don’t make them like this anymore, easily one of the most complete road cars ever made.
I agree! Cars like this will be a thing of the past so hold on to it for as long as it makes you happy
I think you are by far and away, one of the best reviewers on TH-cam. You mix fact with some dry humour, and your delivery and timing are excellent. It’s great to watch your reviews. I nearly bought a fully loaded 2009 CL. It had the vented seats and every extra known to man. It looked great in black metallic with a cream nappa leather interior. Sadly, I bottled it since it was going to be a long range commuter and putting 40,000 miles per year on it apart from terminal depreciation would have resulted in ridiculous rinn8nt costs. There’s a 600 in the village I live in. It’s a bit of a cr@ppy colour, it’s a metallic green, but every morning on my 100 mile early morning trip to London, I yearn to try it on the run. I’m very happy with my CLS Shooting Brake which I have no intention of retiring until the dreaded 2030 diesel ban comes in force. Next year, it’s replace the wife’s car with an AMG E53 Cab (yes I know it’s not the e63s) but I have great plans for that car….to be revealed in 2022.
Love your videos mate . CL is simply gorgeous, so much character and like you said , in a CL you will be noticed. Well done geezer.
Another car I never knew I needed in my life! 🤣
Great vid
Thanks! 😁
Glad I stumbled onto this channel after Vicky off fifth gear reviewed this car, Anyway’ superb comprehensive light hearted review and as I’m expecting a small windfall am very much considering purchasing a CL 500 in the near future.
Thank you
Stunning car! Merc fan boy ⚠️
I'm sorely tempted by one of these given their affordability, decent practicality and potentially affordable maintenance with the right people involved.
Great review Matthew as always and well said about the poverty spec A class vs High end CL/S class.
Please bro don’t do it.
It's not just you Matt! I spend all my spare time on carsales (Australia's version of autotrader) browsing cars I'd like to own. I love your vids - fun and informative. It's passions like yours which is why Ive owned 12 cars in 11 years of driving.
Hi Matt, as a reactolite wearing, Picasso driving fisherman I feel a little bullied by this video ( all true )😀. Regards Jim.
Haha sorry... nothing personal
The descriptions are amazing , you've taken Jeremy Clarkson to a totally new level. (In a good adult way)But you're the best reviewer on you tube , even better than that German autofuegel ..the humour beats him. Bloody spot on mate!
Amazing videos you're doing man!! I know exactly what you mean by your "hobby" of checking cars to buy online, isn't it the most amazing feeling to have the money and be able to choose any used car that is underpriced?
If you'll ever do any video materials in Switzerland, I'd love to support you!
Thanks for watching! Yes those cars are the best. Never been to Switzerland
You are definitely not the only one with that hobby.
Straight on Auto Trader looking at old Mercs now
Hahah
AWESOME.... LONG AWAITED REVIEW for CL. Thank you for doing it as I have requested for it couple of times. Absolutely loved it. I love CL500.
Been waiting for this one... beautiful car!!!
Bro you gave the greatest description ever in the whole history of descriptions! I have one and I love it and you’re spot on 🤝
Same my friend greatest review I just read your comment and it made my day 🤝 I'm still sad that I sold my one not too long ago. I feel like buying another one straight away after this video 😂
Great review .
I’ve just recently purchased a 2009 CL with FSH and 77000 miles on the clock and I have to say what a special car in so many different ways it offers everything you need and more in a car from its stunning appearance to it sublime comfort and drive in a relaxed and peaceful atmosphere.
If you’re thinking of treating yourself to a luxury car at a affordable price then think no more just go for it I most certainly recommend a Mercedes’ CL .
Traditionally, the large coupés were the very wealthy retirée's domain - the kids had long moved out and you could show the world that a) you could now pick your car without regard for any company car guidelines for executives AND b) money was not an issue.
With the aero- and widebody-kits available for the W126 based coupés, the odd pimp would intrude this world of post-executive hair.
Those weren't particularly fond of the C140 but returned to the C210 with a vengeance, preferably the AMG versions.
And in the times of "I bought the cheapest (insert car) in (insert country)" vids, many older ones have fallen into the hands of the penniless and clueless.
So your advice to look for well kept standard ones is a lot more important here than with other cars....
You are the ideal candidate to be a presenter on top gear your anecdotes re sublime. i realish you car reviews as you drop in such brilliant observations.
Thank you. Very kind
Its a stunning car, those seats looks uber comfortable, not keen on the woody interior but its still a classy car, great review again.
I’ve watch this video about 8 times and always enjoy your reviews, I currently have a 2013 CL500 in silver with the light grey interior and black ash detailing, which I’ve owned for just over 2yrs. I bought it with 57k miles and FMBSH. Before this, I owned a 2006 CL500 C215 in the same colour combination which I owned for 5yrs and that was an amazing car and somewhat regret selling it. In between I owned a 2015 S63 coupe which was also in silver with the porcelain interior and was absolutely beautiful in every respect, but because of health issues (cancer) I decided to sell as it wasn’t being used. I bought my current CL500 once my health issues were under control as it seems to represent incredible value for money. It is the perfect combination of luxury, sportiness and power, it still looks modern and quite often I get positive remarks from random strangers. I feel very lucky to have a car like this and would only consider changing it if I could afford to buy either a S Class coupe again or a current model Bentley continental.
Such a bloody good video. Been looking at them. I want one.
Thanks!
Love this video and the advice. My wife and I both laughed out loud at the line, "Don't drive it like you're 11."
Well done mate, very well done indeed! 👏
“ I can’t work out why they are so cheap, the smallest engine is a v8 and it’s full of gadgets” Matt I think you have your answer !
A world of financial pain.
because when it goes wrong it'll cost you a fortune to repair. plus colossal rust problems on this german crap
@@isaachunt5799 i think the later ones are better re rust
@@BEGGARWOOD1 uou rekon?
no way on earth i'de take the chance. i see them daily here rusted out.
no thanks.
@@BEGGARWOOD1 scotty kilmer knows more about cars than almost any you tuber.
ask him what he thinks lol..i think you'll know the answer.
AVOID THIS JUNK LIKE THE PLAGUE
got a mk2 cl500 and absolutely love it. dont worry about anything going wrong, just drive it.
Thats my kind of advice
The 600 is the one I think I'd go for, and they're usually very temptingly priced for what they are, and not that much more than a nice 500. As far as I'm aware, the 600 isn't that much more expensive to run except fuel-wise, of course, but still significantly better than any other V12 of the time. And the main issue with the V12 being the coil packs is not that ruinous to replace.
I think if I were a sensible person, I'd already own a 600, but I'm not. I still look at DB9s and Maserati GranTurismos. A DB9, at least the kind of example I could just afford, has the potential for massive bills and is utterly dismal on fuel. A GranTurismo is also dismal on fuel and also has the potential for massive bills, but most seem to not have been that ruinous to maintain.
And then I fancy a late model SL, which while they have depreciated quite heavily, they haven't depreciated as heavily, and realistically I'm probably looking at a V6, because like with the facelift CL, my understanding is that the 4.7 V8 can throw up some major bills...more than other engine options, except the AMGs.
Anyway, for a sensible man, I think there are really only two options, a CL, or a Jaguar XK 5.0 naturally-aspirated.
And whatever one does, avoid a cheap Bentley Continental GT, because maintenance is very likely to be ruinous, with high repair costs for common problems, unobtainable parts, such as head gaskets, several small jobs requiring the engine to come out, and electrical/electronic issues that can write off the car.
Obviously, the Bentley is a more desirable badge, is for most people a better looking car, and is significantly smaller and therefore easier to find a garage that it'll fit in, etc, but every road test that compared the CGT W12 with the CL600 had the 600 come out on top in every other respect.
I think the only thing against the CL is its size. It is a very big car, and particularly long for a coupe, which makes it potentially a bit of a pain in the city and also on B roads.
That's probably why CLs are relatively cheap, even amongst other luxury coupes.
I don't think it's so much because Mercedes doesn't quite have the brand appeal or because of the looks, because they are imposing and a little unusual, which is what most people are looking for in a coupe.
And the interior is simply superior to all competitors; it's bigger, more comfortable, and has aged by far the best.
If more people put their sensible caps on, I think prices would probably be circa 50% higher. Of course, it's great news for buyers, who can get into one of the best all-round luxury/performance/grand touring cars for a sum that is affordable to a large proportion of the population.
I agree. The 600 is a better investment than a 500. I may be biased: I have a cl600. My advice: do it.
My understanding is that the ABC (hydraulic suspension) in the CL 600, AMG CL 63 and AMG CL 65 is also a lot more problematic than the AIRMATIC (air suspension) in the CL 550.
@@kyreerollerson I don't know about that. Both suspension types are problematic. I know of more air suspension conversions than hydraulic. Also to note that different markets got different standard and optional features. I think the majority of ABC problems are a result of the cars not being used enough and sitting for long periods.
@@nigel.w -- Oh, for sure.
I'm also not sure why the US got the "550" designation, while other countries got the "500" designation.
For us, CL 550s got the AIRMATIC standard if they had 4MATIC. I assume it was optional on RWD CL 550s.
At least here in the 'States, the C140 (the coupe version of the W140) was originally badged as an S-Class, and only became the CL-Class at the tail end of that generation (1998-1999). That carried over to the C215 and C216.
Wow you guys get some bargains in the UK.
Here in Au these start at £20,000 GBP.
A nice low mileage one... £30,000.
Cars are cheap here. Especially cars like this. Most people are frightened
Good video! I know a guy who has had (brand new) 3x CL's, and then bought 3x S-Coupe. He bought them because he considered them "anonymous luxury", but the size and badge give that away. He presently drives a Mercedes-AMG GT-C, but has an order in for another S-Coupe because the GT-C is too loud. If I remember rightly, a previous series CL was Clarkson's purchase in a cheap luxury used car challenge on TopGear. The week after the start of a 3month challenge, his £5k car cost him £3k+ in repairs, so good tip on this one in keeping some money aside, and perhaps the reason behind the catastrophic fall in residuals - Good Luck!
Thats a good point actually. I hadn't thought of that. Its less conspicuous than the rivals
It definitely combines the twin virtues of being a superb car and being very annoying to your local naysayer!
I’m looking for a low mileage 2013/4 high spec car. A friend has ran a 2010 75000 on the clock, and put 25k on it in 3 years and it’s been 100% (servicing/consumables) aside, trouble free. Believe me, it’s like a new car. Admittedly, I’ve never driven one that was literally brand new, but you get the idea.
Great channel and great content.
Thanks.
Love these videos, keep up the good work Matt. Have you considered including examples of CLs you would and wouldn't consider on Autotrader as part of the video and the reasons why? I for one would find that interesting
That would make an interesting addition. Good idea
As usual, an entertaining and informative video that took my attention away from scrolling auto trader!!! For a bit!!
I concur with your dislike of Citroëns and Peugeots. Or rather their drivers! 😆
Great review too!
Had a 2013 for a year now ,what a car ,I knew I’d like it after the clk w209 I had before ,I’ve mapped it (4.7 twin turbo ) the heated and air cooled seats are superb ,superb comfort and everything feels top quality ,only car I’d swap it for is an s coupe but that’s a big jump in £££ huge bang for buck and if you need to go on a big journey ,no better car out there IMO
how’s your clk been ? looking at clk500
@@awesomeshark43 the 209 clk was a great car ,what year 500 is it ?
As lovely as this is in engineering terms and especially the interior, to my eyes at least it doesn't 'look' like a £100k car? I wonder if that is one of the reasons for the heavy depreciation? Whatever, it certainly makes it a cracking used buy!!
It really does , does the S class not look like a 100k car ? This is a coupe version of the S . Its a huge coupe and competition for bentley continental gt
@@arim850 Honestly? Compared to Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin and even some others, no personally I don't think the S class, particularly this generation, 'looks' visually, like a £100k car. Just my opinion 🙂.
@@whitemoor66 okey what about the S coupe ?
@@whitemoor66
The Mercedes CL and Bentley GT are close rivals at every point, including price point. The Merc beats the GT on several levels apart from looks.
Watch these two vids made 13 years apart to see what I mean.
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Just bought mine, a black 2008 CL 500.... night vision, multi contour, adaptive cruise. Amazing for it's age
Sold my 996 for it, always dreamt of owning a 911. But this generation just didn't do it for me. I prefer silent power & luxury. This era of Mercedes interior for instance is almost like art, it is so well designed and the materials are amazing
Great video - Is this as comfortable as your Bentley was? Or your soviet s class?
Its very nearly Bentley-esque. Better than any S Class I've ever had
I fully agree with everything you say! Three good friends of mine have or have had one. One of them being the local Mercedes dealer (in Austria where I live). I guess he knows why, he could drive any model. Unfortunately one of the three burnt down (engine fire) this summer. The former owner was very upset as he loved the car (I believe a 2013) and couuld not find a replacement - a well kept one that is - neither in Austria nor in Germany. Even with the help of the Mercedes dealer (all mates...). So they do appear to be rather sought after. At least the well kept ones.
What are your thoughts on the volvo c30
I like them! I need to do a video with one
I love this car, and I'm going to have one of these one day. Interesting how all Mercedes models are beautiful.
Glove compartment is broken mate, it should land softly.
God I love you, Matt. What a video. What a car. I'm currently in a 2001 E320 that needs body work and a new roofliner. It pains me to drive it banged up like that, but watching this made me want one so badly. Thanks for that.
I remember when dads friend bought brand new CL63 AMG in 2007, burgundy, white leather, individual. Damn what a car! It still drives and runs! Been sold to another friend. Still great car
Always loved the look of this generation CL and the preceding one.
I never fail to check out your reviews and I am never disappointed.
Superb. Car … a Merc worthy of the badge …
100%
The glovebox shouldn't drop open like that, there's a little ram that becomes detached. I have a 2008 cl500 and it's by far the best car for the money even yet
Probably the Mercedes that encapsulates what Mercedes needs to be, as you said it well.yourself! One of my all time favourite. Great review, as always!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
Had a 2005 CL55 and drove it to nearly 250,000 miles.
I miss it constantly.
Peasant in a Peugeot. Favourite line. Nice work.
I saw one the other day and thought, thats the best looking Merc I've seen in a long time, then i realised how old it was, looks definitely still hold up!
It was a lovely car to detail when it was in my workshop , credit too the last owner who must have cherished it.
This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen about my car, Lol. I own an 09 550 with amg pkg and it has been amazing, I would say though to get one with the airmatic like mine and it then becomes bulletproof compared to many other luxury cars.. It’s tricky because most pre facelift from 07-08 had ABC hydraulic, but 09-10 more often I’ve seen airmatic. Easiest way is to look at shock towers under hood, if you see a line it’s air ride..
So u have a 2009 cl550 with air suspension. Is it a 4 matic
My 2009 Superb insulates you from the outside world too!
Brilliant review, brilliant car. The 'rarer than rocking horse droppings' line got me hahaha
“They become a distant memory”, that is, until you come up over the hill and theres an jam and he’s on your arse thinking you wanted to race or with a hurt ego. One of my dream cars though, rented an 2014 CL63 AMG and I now officially have the Benz bug.
Bought a cheap 2002 CL500 against all advice and it was without question the greatest car I ever owned....for the two months I owned it before it broke beyond repair. Best two months of my life.
what happened?
Nice vídeo & review as always, i liked your smart looking outfit for this review, spot on 👌🏼.
This car is my dream like 5 years, after your description im gonna deffinetly buy mine one day🙏🙏
I am pretty sure the prices of the cars you review always just after you publish a video. I literally want to buy the CL right now! What a beautiful machine. And a great video :)
They're great cars. Thanks for watching
I have simply lusted after one of these since I retired 7 years ago, but I had just bought a CLS320, as the wife wanted 4 doors and as it looked like a coupe anyway and goes like stink I compromised. As a 60th birthday present, I bought myself the immaculate RI29 320 I had always promised myself as a callow youth, thinking the CL was too similar to the CLS to own both. Having my two sons junk also parked on my drive means I have no room for another vehicle, but when things change a CL is coming my way! I used to own a 1988 Carat Duchatelet version of a 300CE Pillarless Coupe in black with a beige leather interior and still have a small picture of the Autotrader advert from when I sold it after owning for 8 years in my Filofax from the past! There is nothing you can drive today, other than the obvious supercars, quiet like a big solid powerful well equipped and looked after Mercedes coupe!