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THE NEW DRY DROPPER RIG (IMPROVED SYSTEM) | THE "FAS ADD" | SAVE TIME ON THE WATER & CATCH MORE FISH
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- You better read it and weep folks.. or watch it rather.. because I have made something that will change the fly fishing industry... Okay that's a bit much.. it MIGHT.. If anything it should change the way you look at a "dry-dropper" rig. Adjustable dry dropper rigs can no longer haunt your fish filled dreams. No sir, no ma'am. With equal parts noggin power and sorcery I am conjuring them into your reality.. well and hopefully into your fly box as soon as you watch this video.
I could go on and on about the shortcomings of the "traditional" dry dropper rig. Looking at it objectively and through my own personal experiences.. it has serious limits. They had their time and place without a doubt. But the innovation offered in this video should put that old horse "out to pasture".. so to speak.. From here on out you should never have to wrestle with the archaic nature of this static rig. Days of wasting tippet and time are over.
Not only does my dry dropper system work as an incredibly efficient indicator, it is also a damn dry fly! How often do you get your cake and then actually eat it? It takes the best elements of the "traditional" dry-dropper but then elevates the rig in every other aspect. I have been "prototyping" this rig for well over a year now and I can say without a doubt that this thing works.
I am my own worst critic, I PROMISE. (anything you've got to say won't scratch how I feel about myself.. so kick rocks) I am seldom satisfied with my accomplishments or place in life. That is why I wanted to meticulously research and develop this entire process. I'm not kidding... I put this under a hypercritical microscope as I dragged it through angling hell. This is that one shining moment where I can actually stand behind my idea. An idea that could wildly change the way a lot of folks think about fly fishing. There is nothing complicated about this fly or the rig.
This "bead" & "tube" technique can be applied to ANY dry fly. Of course, when I say "any" I am referring to ANY dry fly you would use in a "traditional" dry dropper rig. (Don't @ me with any stupid #22 midges please) With the low level of intrusion this system brings to the fly, I wouldn't be surprised if the "big boys" start picking this trick up...
To all the R&D teams of the major fly fishing companies, y'all need some help?
@orvis @UmpquaFeatherMerchants @SimmsFishingProducts @RIOPRODUCTS @ScientificAnglers @patagonia
Old men in tweed, horse hair leaders, and tailing gloves should all be a thing of the past... Static dry dropper rigs will soon be added to that list.
If you have any questions please reach out.
Instagram: @fly_allszn
Official FAS Discord: / discord
Enjoy.
Material List:
1. Glass Beads
-They come in all colors and sizes. I suggest anything in the range of 2 - 2.8mm.
-This should cover any size hook you use.
-Just know that some glass beads will be shaped differently than others.
2. Tubing
-You can DIY this if you are feeling really bold. (Same dimensions as the beads)
-The stuff that comes in the packs of NZ Strike indicators actually works really well.
(I use the "REGULAR" size)
3. Tippet Rings
-Smaller for small flies.. Bigger for bigger flies.. pretty easy. (Or just use a blood knot)
4. LITERALLY ANYTHING
-Use the same materials from any of your favorite dry fly rigs
-There is nothing special about the two flies tied in this vid
Man, I loved this video. I stopped flying fishing 25 years ago because of the snobbery and elitism. I just got back into it this year and guys like you give me hope that normal people fly fish too. Keep it up!
How do you set the hook if the fish takes the moving dry fly?
I do a similar thing where I break open a used bic pen and cut a length of the empty ink tube. Tie that onto the hook and then lay the dubbing/foam over it. Peg it with the smallest length of toothpick. This is a lot more polished and the surgical tubing/glass bead anchor system would be a lot gentler on tippet, and lend itself better to smaller flies. Thanks Mike!
I’ve heard rumors of the FASADD for a few months now. Even seen a prototype. Extremely innovative approach to a challenge that has faced fly fishermen since the dry dropper was first employed. Looking forward to trying/tying this setup. Thanks for sharing your genius.
You give me too much credit! haha thank you so much!
Finally watched this after seeing you fish it many times! This will be in my vice soon! Thanks for sharing a really great idea Mike! Can’t wait to try it in these deep MO spring holes! You’re the real deal! 🎣🎣
I cannot tell you how awesome these are! In any color, size, and fly variation they break the game! I hope they work as well for you as they have for me. Tight lines Scott
This absolutely genius! I've been trying to figure how to make this work for years. I stumbled on you channel this morning and you've figured it out. I just tied up some foam and it works!
Also, I euronymph and I can double haul pike flies!
Genius....simply genius. I hope dudes are humble enough to give you the cred!
Doesn’t matter if they do or not! This is for the fishy folks! And in the end catching more fish!
Extremely innovative idea. Well done. FAS ADD!!! Will be working on getting myself up and running with this rig. Thank you
Stumbled on your video about the Gila trout (I am bit of a trout nerd, especially the obscure and rare strains), and now this was in my recommendations.
I guess nothing is a coincidence. This is just genius. I am going to spread this among all the fly fisherman I know.
Greetings from the Netherlands young man, I take my smelly old fishing hat off to you!
Thank you so much!!! I really think this is a winner design and could flip the way a lot of folks like to fish!! Preach the #FASADD to the mountains!
I’ve seen one other similar set up, that utilizes a piece of yarn and a blood knot tied that you tie a slidable tag line to the rig, so it’s slightly different. Yours is more streamlined in that it doesn’t use a separate tag line. this is pretty cool man.
Dude I've been dreaming of this ever since the first time I had a fish hit my indicator!!!!
This is brilliant. Can't wait to try it!
Let me know how it works!
Coolio!! I’m new to fly fishing and have wondered if there was a way to do this. Genius! And great videos. Love your enthusiasm!
This is next level innovative thinking. Can’t wait to try it out!
I hope it can find you some fish! I know it has helped me catch a ton!
This is cool. Really similar to what I’ve been experimenting with. Using the tubing from an NZ indicator but only on thread and I didn’t think of putting glass beads on the hook. That’s a good idea.
Give it a try and let me know what you think!! Also spread the word!
Brilliant! Depth, depth, depth... this rig is delicious! Well done!
Enjoy and catch many fish brother! I hope it serves you as well as it has for me!
Dude that’s awesome tying up some now. Thanks again.
Of course!!
So sick! I hate tying I’m not very good at it but I’m gonna try a few of those monster floaters for this, love the innovation dude 🤙🏻
That is a sweet, very clever set up. I work in the industry, and I'll start passing that trick along
Thank you so much!
This is so cool bro, never let Big Fly get you down man!
Big flys ride high 💪🏼
Neat idea. Will whip up a few rigs for my next trip out west
It has helped me catch a bunch of fish!
I sure like it! Great idea - Innovation still possible!
It really does catch fish! I have been crushing with it now for the better part of 3 years
This is great thanks dude. I also especially enjoy the parts where you mock the haters. “But Mike…” hahaha
Hahaha haters gonna hate! Figured I’d get ahead of them
Dang it, I was just went into town yesterday and could have picked up some glass beads. I guess this will have to wait to be tried. Genius
Thank you!!
Thank you so much for sharing this!!!!!! I can't wait to try it!
Mike thanks for sharing, YOU'RE THE MAN !!!!
You bet! Use it like hell and share it with all your fishy friends! Get the word out!
Damn dude that is sick!! Thank you thank you! Will definitely share!
Hell yeah man!!
Definitely trying it this summer. I use a hopper dropper setup most of the summer in southwest Colorado.
IT IS THE BEST!! I have been using for so long now and I refuse to throw a traditional hopper dropper anymore.
Awesome rig very adjustable on the size fly from big narly Western Stones # 4 to smaller Caddis & Terrestrial patterns,my only question is what size tubbing do you use or recommend 🤯,tight lines & bent rods 🤟🤙
nice tips fam, ima be sure to try this one soon
This is a great idea... from one old Mike to a much younger Mike.
Thank you so much!! I really think it could change the game!
You are a true mad scientist brother amazing job!!
Hehe necessity drives innovation 🙌🏼
Just lost your Simms sponsorship, but on a positive note a very cool idea. I will have to take some notes and learn how to do it. Thanks for sharing with everyone Mike. Keep up the great work, and I am the DEN (Dirty Euro Nympher). Later buddy!
Can’t lose what you never had!
Bro this was actually very smart! Gonna start doing this!
It works wonders for me!!
I'm from New Mexico as well bro like watching your fly tying videos etc your videos make it entertaining an enjoyable making fly fishing more exciting, never got into fly tying but now makes me wanna start tying your style of hoppers n nymphs an streamers ,lmao hook-up a resident up with hoppers lmao jk bro , thanks n stay bless brother
Peace tight lines
Howdy Joe! Thank you so much for reaching out! These are a great pattern to tie up! I can never have enough in my box.
Deserves to be in every fly shop around the world ❌🧢
That would be wild!!
Me* ties all this up and gets it set perfect and snags a tree 20 feet up first cast.
*sigh
Shopping not to get what I need to try this . Thank you brother!
You bet!!!
Great video first started using this technique in the 1980's-a Scotsman from Glasgow Scotland showed me this in 1981!
Been around for decades in England and Scotland.
Absolutelly amazing!!! Thanks man!!!
Definitely going to have to try this out!
Lemme know how it works out!!
Son, it is a pleasure watching you!
Thank you very much!
Nice! Now I have to try it here in the driftless.
It is the Driftless cheat code honestly haha
That is very slick, I love the NZ Strike Indicator so I already got the tubing, I just need to get some glass beads.
Great invention! I'll have to try it out!!!
Whaaaaa 🤯🤯 this is absolutely brilliant!
Spread the word!!
hell yeah my man! trying something like that this weekend !
I hope it works Ryan! I know it works for me!
Great tie mike!!!! What size surgical tubing do you use?
Well done! I’m going to try this…..Thx
Let me know how it goes David!
What size glass bead do you use? I have some beads from Hobby Lobby (Czech glass beads), but I feel like they’re just a little too big. I really have to jam the surgical tubing on with 5x I can’t imagine getting it on with 1x.
I shared with my dog. We are testing this out after work in the canyon. Anotha fiyaaa vid man.
Did your dog dig it? Haha thank you so much!!
@@FLYALLSZN yea man! He's the one who suggested fishing after work haha. Never used tippet rings but we will see later one how this goes. Biggg into the dry drop game.
Give this a try man!! I promise it’s game changing!! Any vid of mine where I’m using a dry/drop it’s an adjustable rig
Mike, I've been doing something similar for some time now. I take top flies such as a hopper or stimulator, and as I tie them, I tie in a tippet ring using a piece of looped mono at the rear of the fly. I can attach my dropper using another piece of tippet tied to the tippet ring on the top fly. I adjust depth by changing the dropper tippet length using a double surgeon's knot to add tippet, or just nip off material to shorted the dropper. Takes me 30 seconds to add/remove tippet and retie the dropper. I can use tippet as small as 8X with no slipping of the dropper tippet when casting. It is not a sliding system, but it is faster than rebuilding a leader the traditional way and avoids tying a dropper knot to the bend of the top fly. In calmer water, I can see the front of my top fly tip up slightly when a fish takes the dropper. I miss fewer takes that way. My smaller top flies with tippet rings don't have the extra weight of beads and surgical tubing. I use the smaller 2mm and 3mm rings available on ebay. Life and fishing are always a series of trade-offs. Most great thinkers are slightly crazy, you are a great thinker..........
See that is exactly the kind of stuff I want to hear!! That is a CHEEKY system! I may have to give that a go one of these days! You are exactly right! The give and take is ever present!! Heavy emphasis on the CRAZY haha thank you so much for the support!
Hey fellas...Chris, I actually use the exact same method as you describe due to not getting away with anything bigger than 5x and had trouble with the dry slipping too much on 5.5x or 6x...But Mike, I like fishing super skinny water this way and need to adjust very often so Im gonna experiment with your system with possibly smaller tubing, my concern is kinking the thin tippet when the fish takes the dry as it slides to the ring but we shall see!! Thanks for the video man and stay Crazy :)
Hi Chris, I like the idea of the tippet ring, but I'm having a hard time picturing it's placement. Do you tie it in on the shank ? Thanks for the idea.
@@rjf1877 I put the tippet ring on a short loop of mono and tie the two ends of the loop to the hook shank, adding a drop of super glue first to the hook shank before tying in the loop. The ring on the loop goes back to just past the hook bend.
Thanks Chris, it sound like your setup doesn't get fouled up by any tail material, right? Thanks again
Incredible!!!!
Thank you!! Let me know how you like it!!
This is really innovative and ALMOST bulletproof. My only (constructive) criticism is that there's no need for either the tippet ring or the blood knot. Once your dropper fly is secure, you're as good as gold.
😎👍🏻
FLYALL SZN GANG WAS HERE FIRST. Eat your heart out Tom Rosendaddy!
Sorry not sorry Tom 😅🤷🏼♂️
I just started tying and I remembered this vid. Time to tie me a FASADD.
Nice set up man! That's epic
No doubt a game changer!
Great video-- ready to try it
You should try to patent it like Jim Teeny did with his Teeny nymphs. Your devise is much better! I fly fished and tied flies for 50 years and this is a great development; you are to be commended. If I were still fishing I would definitely tie up and use these dry dropper adjustable indicator. Thanks 🥳
I don't need the money! I would rather see folks catching fish with it.
@@FLYALLSZN You’re a young and inexperienced man if you say something like: “ I don’t need the money!” It never hurts to have some set aside invested and making you money while you sleep. The fishing industry, especially Flyfishing, does not generate a lot of profits. As you said this might be your only genius idea (I doubt that) and most likely you won’t be able to quit your day job. You can also make a hook to slide and hold its position easily with leader alone, I used to make a three hook setup for salmon fishing with a fixed bottom hook and two sliders on the line that hold their position well, used for trolling a bent herring bait. Thanks for your effort and enthusiasm!
good stuff, will def add some of these.
They have helped me catch SO many fish!
Can’t wait to test this out in the water
It's all I use!
You could use bass fishing "bobber stoppers" and get close to the same result i believe.
Then use that!
Just like fly fisherman hate when people call strike indicators, bobbers; the bass world hates when people call weight pegs, bobber stoppers 😂 (they’re whatever you wanna call em)
Sharing this right meow. Thanks bro
Blast it out brother! Let em all know!!!!
Watched several Colorado outings. Great videos.
Thank you so much Russell! I really appreciate the support!
Dude this is genius! If it gets out there, it's gonna flip the fly fishing world on it's head. Can't wait to see where it goes!
Let the folks know!! 🙏🏼
@@FLYALLSZN You better believe I will! And I can't wait to try it out for myself!
I’m new to fly fishing thanks for the tip
Instead of using a tipit ring i tried a clear slip bobber stopper . Works great , let me know what you think .
Very cool and innovative idea man! Thank you for sharing with the community, I look forward to testing.
Some quick questions:
1) So the tippet ring or blood knot is the final "stop" right?
2) Doesn't this mean the fly will still have to slide to this point after the hookup?
3) If so, aren't you losing tension while it's slipping, or losing that critical tension right at hookset?
All valid questions!
1. Yes, I have never had a fish pull that fly below the ring or knot. (now I am not saying that is out of the question. I personally have not had it happen)
2. That is why I put the footage in the beginning of the vid. The "Pudding" so to speak. I have never had an issue with it. But I am also quick draw McGraw with the hook set..
@@FLYALLSZN , thanks for reply. I look forward to testing!
I've liked putting two rubber bobber stoppers on the line above and below the eye of the hook. Similar result but the fly can't be changed out without losing the bottom bobber stopper.
Give this one a try and tell me how you like it!!!
What hook do you use for that Caddis you tie in this video? That thing looks great and I'd like to take a shot at tying some.
Very creative idea, I have wondered about the existence of such a rig. I got a few tied up to try and I was playing around with it a bit. Question, have you noticed issues with setting the hook on the dry,? It would seem that the pressure of the fish will slide it all the way down to the tippet ring/knot delaying the set and possibly missing fish. Awesome idea bro, definitely opened my mind back up to this rig. Also why 2 beads on some?
Can't wait to tie a few up!
“You’re a euro nympher and your daddy never taught you to double haul”. Hahahahahahaha. Good lord that was hilarious. Great video dude! Definitely a game changer.
Thank you so much!! Haha hope you like it
Have you had problems on this setup with missing hooksets on a dry take because the amount the dry has to slide down before it hits the tippet ring acts as too much slack ending up in reduced leverage to dig the hook in?
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game changer!
keep creating. nice innovation. careful on those boulders in questa
Will do! Those can be really tough to navigate!
Awesome idea
Very cool idea Mike and I’m in! I’m just not sure I understand the adjustment concept, If I tie on a ring or use a knot below the dry won’t I still need to re-tie my dropper nymph to lengthen or shorten it up? Or, will the tubing keep the dry fly at the place you set it and not slip down while casting.
The tubing has always kept my flies exactly where they need to be! The tension is just enough to make it happen.
@@FLYALLSZN I watched a couple more of your videos that explained everything. Thanks for getting back looking forward to trying it out on the Methow this year.
Cheers for posting Mike ! Only thing i'm confused on is the need/placement of the tippet ring/blood-knot- does this not effectively act as a restriction on how far you can place your dropper/trailing nymph behind the dry? Also, I picked up a leafcutter using your discount code so thanks ! Reckon it'll be one of the few or only Ant rods hitting the UK chalkstreams :). Regards from London. Chris
Placement of the tippet ring/blood knot will be right after that second tube slides around those beads. That is why I like to pull that line through to have a decent amount of slack. Once you are there you can run any length of tippet off of the blood knot or tippet ring. Kind of up to you on that one.
The UK chalk streams aren't gonna know what hit them! That is so awesome!! Thank you for sharing! And please reach out if you need further explanation on the rigging!
@@FLYALLSZN Thanks Mike- makes sense. Would the trailing nymph not act as a 'stop' to the dry? Will need to give this ago- just thinking if the dry is secure enough to stay in place when casting, but can still be pulled up and down when required, you could do away with the tippet ring/blood-knot (?). Guess worse case scenario, you hook a fish on the dry and it pulls the dry down to the nymph
David Cordova
Which clear tubing are you using? What is the diameter of the clear beads you are using? I found 2 mm clear beads at the hobby store. I tied the fly using the 2mm clear beads. Now need clear tubing. I tried using the New Zealand indicator tubing, way to small diameter to slide over the beads.
Give this a gander: th-cam.com/video/MATZ0iLfVSA/w-d-xo.html
One of the Orvis guys I know said that he asked Orvis to include the little bracelet making rubber bands with their plastic floats but they said no and gave the reason that they sell more leaders by not including the rubber bands. Now I just use a popper because I'm sick of the fish hitting my float without a hook so I'll have to try this
I’m gonna make a few for bass can’t go wrong with this setup
These are my favorite!
Mike, love the fasadd! Where do you order your “surgical tubing” from and what size .5mm? 1mm?
I use the same size tubing as the New Zealand strike indicator. Whatever the normal size is works great for me
Thanks again! Ready to tie and glide…….
I always thought of using dries, and hoppers as indicators for a while now.
Hey man really like your videos, and this concept. I’m just curious about the hook up on the dry. Does the fact that it slides affect your hook up? Does that make sense? It’s hard to explain through text, in my mind it would be harder to get a solid hook up since the fly isn’t stationary. Thanks again, hope to hear back.
I wouldn't share it if it didn't work.. See the forest from the trees. You will catch a LOT more fish purely because you are at the proper depth with you dropper. Now add that on top of a dry that i have personally landed some massive fish on.. it solves a lot of my fishing problems.. I see where you might be skeptical but it doesn't hurt my feelings if you use it or not.
@@FLYALLSZN oh I’m definitely gonna tie some up here soon, I’m not skeptical. I’ve seen a lot of proof in your videos, I’ve been a fan for a while. I was actually working the four corners fire while you were out there, super jealous I wasn’t able to cast a line while I was there. I’ll have to try out larger diameter tippet, I was just wondering if the sliding factor affects getting the hook set into the fish at all. Sorry if I worded that weirdly the first time, didn’t mean any kind of negativity. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
Pretty cool.
yo Mike. Big fan . ... pushin' 35 yrs. "decoratin ."' 'the flora of the riparian corridor of Ohio's Mad River.... with dozens of misplaced flies !!
....confused with placement of 2 pieces of tubing !??...& ring..? ..on ur famous....
...FAS ADD . THX.
Howdy John!! Decoration.. OMFG... That genuinely made me laugh out loud
So the orientation goes.. 1 tube threaded on tippet, then tippet threaded through eye of hook, then thread second tube.
After that you could be able to slide one tube over the hook eye and the other through the hook shank itself! Then you are in the money!
Way COOL rig! I'm 70 years old and proof you can teach an ol dog new tricks! One question. I am assuming you have these rigged ahead of time so you store them that way? I enjoy your vids and enthusiasm!
Exactly! I tend to have a few on deck at all times
th-cam.com/video/7_Tt2SXaE80/w-d-xo.html
Have you seen this variation?
What brand of beads do you use? Tried to brains neither of them work properly the size of the hole is just inconsistent
Man that is awesome where do you get the beads, just at a craft store?
Any major fly shop should have em! Worst case hit up a big box and they’ll have em too
Good video
Cool rig Mike. What size surgical tubing. I guess that depends on bead size, but what size surgical tubing are you using?
Give this a gander: th-cam.com/video/MATZ0iLfVSA/w-d-xo.html
@@FLYALLSZN thanks. Going to watch it now
So the fact that it moves doesn’t affect being able to set the hook?
Hell yeah bro
Game changing 🤞🏻
Mike, where do the glass beads come into play? Can't I try this out with store bought flies? Thanks from NM
You can try! The glass beads get tied into the head and the butt of they fly! They are the foundation of this while rig!
@@FLYALLSZN Since I don't tie my own flies... do you sell these?
Seriously, I’d buy some in a heartbeat! Sick innovation!
How do you keep the dry fly from sliding when you set the hook?
You don't, it slides until it hits the blood knot or tippet ring.
Yo bro, love ur channel!
I don’t currently tie flies, do you sell your A.D.D’s ???
Mike, Very Cool. To be clear, you push the tubing over the beads, right?
Yes! Tubing over the bead!
@@FLYALLSZN Mike, what ID tube do you use. Is it neoprene. Where did you buy it.
What size of tubing do you use?
Ima try and tie some up I’ll let ya know what they do
Please do!