"Buddy. Yep, Buddy. That was the best I could come up with. Well, it's simple. You're my little Buddy. I always called you that when you were a baby. I guess it just stuck. Brad and Buddy. It sounds good to me." Dam my chest.
No, it was actually really cruel to the player in a way, and even more when you realize, this is not Brad soul or something like that, this is the deepest desire in buddy subconcious, thats what joy do at the end.
""You have to know this Buddy. I was completely lost before I found you. You made me feel things I'd never felt before... You showed me what love really is. And that's why when I look into your eyes, it's the scariest feeling in the world."
"Buddy. Yep, Buddy. That's the best I could come up with. Well, it's simple. You're my little buddy. I always called you that when you were a baby. I guess it just stuck. Brad and Buddy. It sounds good to me."
i tend to have a problem with that quote since... most of the time there is nothing to forgive and very little to judge this quote has often caused so many people to go down a selfdestructive path and then shift the blame
I just realized something that I’m not sure whether it was intentional or not. In Painful during the cutscene where Buzzo forces Brad to take joy, Buzzo asks Buddy “Who is he to you?” I get the feeling that the title of this track is Buddy’s final response to the question. “Who is he to you?” “He’s my dad” God, these games are masterpieces
I remember i played this game and not too long after, my dad died from an overdose. This song makes me think of him and I can’t help but cry As someone who grew up with addict parents this game really handled the subject beautifully. Substance abuse addiction is one of the hardest things to get out of but that doesn’t mean the addict themselves isn’t trying, they still care about the people around them and they’re hurting just as much as us My mom recently died last year after finally being sober for a few months and I couldn’t be prouder I love you mom and dad I miss you so much
"Daddy comforts you" This hurts so much. I never had a dad and never cared about it. But when I saw Brad's "attacks", it made me wonder what it must be like... to have a daddy who comforts you...
The whole series is about cycles of abuse; the Painful was specifically about Brad's struggles with his daughter, and his attempts to not become his father. His father was completely unapologetic throughout his whole parenthood; Brad, however, grew and changed.
@@draguOdoT Same holds true for all the characters in this, including Dustin, Buddy, even Lisa. All of them are flawed products of their environment, doing the best they can but making terrible mistakes and succumbing to their worst impulses. You can't let them off the hook for what they've done but you can pity how they got there and why.
Well I mean everyone in the series can be linked to some moment that turns them into a victim. Even Marty to an extent became who he became due to the death of his wife. In a sense no one person in Lisa is truly a bad guy, rather everyone has a moment that turns them into what they become. No one is truly free of their past and often that just creates more victims.
This game.. my goodness. the whole trilogy literally shows how hurting people *hurt* people.. There is a quote "If you never heal from what hurt you, you'll bleed on people who didn't cut you." Believe it or not, but forgiveness can and will help with the healing process. It doesn't mean it was okay what they did, it doesn't even mean you have to like them or talk to them... Forgiving is necessary because you deserve healing. You deserve to be set free from that past.
"You have to know this Buddy. I was completely lost before I found you. You made me feel things I'd never felt before... You showed me what love really is. And that's why when I look into your eyes, it's the scariest feeling in the world. It's why I buried myself so deep into the darkness. But, I promise you, I tried so hard to fight it. I tried. And no matter what, I really did love you with all my heart. I'm so sorry I failed you, Buddy. I miss you so much." Brad Armstrong
This song sounds so innocent, something that not many people in the Lisa series are. But in this case, I think it makes it bittersweet when paired between Buddy and Brad. Buddy is the only girl alive, and she's experiencing childhood like no other girl before her did (aside from Lisa of course). She's still so young, and instead of enjoying life, she has to make so many sacrifices for it. She hated the only man who she could call a parental figure because he clearly did and made her do terrible things. But in the end it seems like even she understood the intention he had to make her commit to those actions. However, it still cost her any last trace of purity she had within. She can never be a little girl, because she has to fight like a woman.
This song, and its contextual meaning, hits closer to home than possibly any other piece of fiction I ever got to experience. It tackles the topic of abusive parents in a nuanced way in ways that certain other works of fiction like God, the Devil and Bob never did: by leaving all the ugly, raw abuse visible, and on display. Buddy saw Brad as a monster for the longest time, and we saw the reasons for it; he did things that Marty did, no matter how good his intention; he refused to let her out of the house without hiding her face, like Marty did with Lisa. He taught her that the world was "kill or be killed," and forced her to stab a man, all while refusing to even let her take comfort in calling him her "dad". But in spite of this, there was genuine good in the things he did. He wanted to protect her. He wanted her to be able to determine her own fate, and not just be cattle for people to breed with. And Buddy realized this in this boss fight. And actualized her mission more because of it. When I was 12, my mother broke her back. She had dated abusive and neglectful men before that, so I hadn't been blind to the realities of abuse in the past. But she changed after she broke her back. It never healed right. She was in constant pain. The first three years of it I had to listen to her down the hall, constantly, groaning in agony, screaming "Oh my god-". She became addicted to opioids. Eventually, we lost our car, and with it, her ability to transport me to things I needed to do outside of school. I began walking across town every day, after school, to get her her cigarettes. There were a lot of days where I was too tired to do so, that I didn't want to. She'd say that the cigarettes help her manage the pain, keep her mentally focused. She said she needed her boy to help her. And I did it because I thought I was. Nevermind the fact that the smoking was a direct problem that led to us nearing eviction on countless occasions. By the time I finished high school, things had gotten slightly better. She had a car again, we could go around as needed. Then her social security bonus for me being a full-time student dried up. And the finances became tighter as a result. Once I had found work, she became reliant on me for money. But not just to pay the bills. Or for her cigarettes. She had gotten into buying pills illegally. New Jersey has an opioid addiction epidemic, so they'd been restricting doctors' ability to administer Opioids over the years. My mother bought them off of her friends over the years as a result to supplement that. And as I became more privy to the financial hell this put on us, with how much of the burden I'd taken on with the bills, I began having mental breakdowns over the 4 years. And amidst all this, she began having strokes and getting into accidents, totalling the cars we had. I had bought 4 cars over the course of living with her. Four. The first two I couldn't even get insurance money back for, because the first one we didn't have collision, and the second she decided to take it off within months of her accident. The third was her in the midst of her mind becoming the rotted, decayed mess it is now, amidst a series of intense strokes in which her frontal lobe was clogged. I can't blame her for that. Only my own selfish, irrational expectation that things were gonna get better, that I could still trust her. The fourth was my own doing, after one stressful morning of her once again making me nearly late for work as I drove. But the straw that broke the camel's back was her getting caught driving on a suspended license, 2 weeks from my birthday. For the 4th time in 2 weeks, before she finally told me that fourth time. I was furious. I was done. I told her I was moving out afterward. She immediately begged me not to, begging to just be allowed to jump in front of a train. By the end of that year, I had moved out, as did she, as she had no other choice. We went our separate ways. And I barely talk to her now. But every now and then, I get pangs of my childhood rushing back to my head. Of the mother I had, the one that wasn't a selfish, drug-addicted husk. The one that did her best. The one that, against all the odds, the single motherhood, the abusive dickheads, the family that rejected her time and again because they were jealous of her being the one to attract men and have kids. She perservered through it all to raise me, her baby boy. And this breaks me sometimes. I can't think for hours.
People talk a lot about other story points in Lisa, but not a lot talk about the major plot of the trilogy, the generational cycle of abuse. In Brad's attempt to not be like Marty for Buddy, he created his own, neglectful type of abuse towards her. Buddy resented him for that and became violent and aggressive, slowly becoming like Marty, and the cycle begins anew. It feels like once you've been abused you're thrown into this vicious cycle. You try to run from it. You try to not be like your abusive parent(s). But in doing so you slowly become like them anyways. It's like the only winning move is not to play. You're doomed from the start. What terrified me the most wasn't that I saw my dad being Brad in this situation, it was that I saw myself becoming Brad in this situation too. It made me feel sick. It makes me wonder, am I a good person? Did I do the right thing?
You have carried an impossibly heavy burden man. No matter how you feel about it, I hope you are able to find solace in the fact that you did it out of gratitude and love, even if the person you were expressing it to is long gone. I wish you all the good in the world to heal you from this.
I felt this way thanks to omori, God do I love indie games. I've played like 15 lasy year, the only "Big Ones" I Need are everhood, the blinding of Isaac and hollow knight. They Need to make more of these games...
I didn't feel that emotionally affected when I played Lisa the Painful, but this scene in Joyful got me. Because, even though the Lisa world is gruesome, and Brad raised Buddy in a way that would be insane in our world, still... When you strip the situation down to its core, you just see a dad who tried to do what he thought was best for his child, but ended up hurting them instead. It hits close to home because it's such a common and tragic situation so many real people go through. But the fact that Buddy still sees him as a dad during the final battle gives me hope that maybe, at least at the end, she forgave him.
I swear to god, the LISA game series has been the first to have ever consistently make me tear up from anything. Everytime I come back to this scene I just can’t resist the gut wrenching I feel from seeing Brad genuinely try and care for Buddy despite his flaws and past traumas, only to hate himself in the end for failing nonetheless. That shit cuts real fuckin deep. Well played Dingaling. I am bawling.
This hits me so hard. I always had problems with my dad and I kinda hate him but, at the same time, I remember the good old days with him, when he was an extraordinary guy and a lovely dad, this song destroys me inside. I love this game so much and his entire music, it helped me getting things over and move forward and save the good memories for my sake because at the end of the day, I have people around me who loves me and cares for me, and its all what matters. (Sorry if you don't understand my typing, I'm learning this language and I just wanted to word my feelings)
Jonnie, saving the good memories is our choice yes ❤️. Also I do think seeing beauty in people is strong, vulnerable and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your feelings with us. (English is my second language too 🙂)
Its different for the boss to not fight back, but when the boss starts HEALING you, and starts taking self damage, THATS when it hits hard. No game has made me actually tear up like this
When you're a kid you look up to your parents. They're almost deified in your eyes. They feed you, clothe you, take care of you. It's not until you get older and see the mistakes they've made and who they are as people that you realize that they're just human. They make mistakes, just like anyone else. I know there are people with really shitty parents out there... and I want you to know I'm sorry for anything they've done to you. Even if they can't or won't apologize.
Anytime I hear this, I feel something hit me harder than a truck. I feel so happy, joyful, good about what this makes me experience, people might think I'm sad while I cry
+Crying +Depression This song is heartbreaking, yet uplifting, it's beautiful to watch the event unfold but it left me feeling like I was hit with a diesel fire bomb Aka PAINED
I just noticed the fact that this song doesn't feature trumpets, i think it means that even when someone conquers the earth, in our minds, in our hopes, we are safe. Or rather, we have the choice to.
Maybe it could also be a parallel of Buddy's biological father, Yado and Brad, her adoptive Dad. Buddy has no trumpets here because the title "He's my Dad" isn't about Yado, it's about Brad and who he truly was to Buddy in the end?
Dude, I played the saga again a few days ago, and this song has been stuck in my head for three days. It's the first thing that invades my mind as soon as I wake up. Honestly, it's hard for me to handle everything this song evokes, but I guess that's the thing..
I think it took everything you had experienced and just amplified it. There was no build up, it was a shorter game that started right at the peak of it all. It was being kicked while we were already down
For me, painful made me cry really hard and left me empty. For me, joyful was incredibly impactful and it was so much to take in I didn't even react. Now, looking back on joyful I'm crying like a bitch
One reason why this is one of my favorite games ever is because its not afraid to go over heavier subjects such as abuse. It shows more then just one perspective and i love that a lot
I never really cry at video games, but god damn it, this track never fails to get me choked up. It illustrates what it is like to say goodbye to a loved one for the last time perfectly.
this makes me think about how i'm always so hard on my mom for the way she treats me. i guess she's equally as traumatized by life, i hope we can fix our relationship someday
I finished both the Painful and Joyful roughly about 3 days ago, got through both games in about 4 days or so. I just want you guys to know, Austin, Marina, Widdly, and everyone else who helped to make these games happen, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for being a shining example of how to make a master class piece of media. I can't wait to see what other masterpieces all of your hard work is going to inspire. The games over, but the impact it has made on me and so many others has crushed me and relieved me in ways no game had done before.❤️ from the bottom of my heart and all of the friends who played along with me, thank you.
Thank you for these kind words (I'll make sure Austins sees it). Btw, LISA is made entirely by one person Austin aka Widdly aka Dingaling 😉. I (Marina) helped with couple soundtracks and VO for the Joyful.
'I promise you, I tried so hard to fight it. I tried. And no matter what, I really did love you with all my heart. I'm so sorry I failed you, Buddy. I miss you so much." I'm not crying you are
my girlfriend's father just died from an hearth attack and her heart just broke, when I played this part of the game it broke my heart too...I love this song, it just makes me feel the love of a father, which I never had and now my girlfriend will never have anymore...Brad just did its best, like my gf's dad and now we remember him for the good things he did
I just finished the Lisa games. It’s 4am, and I have only ever cried one other time while playing a game. This fight had me sobbing like a baby. I didn’t even want to finish the game. I fought every urge in my body to keep me from alt-f4 my game. The soundtrack only made me feel worse and after just finishing Painful and nearing the end of Joyful. I cried hard. I realized how much Brad had grown and tried his best to be good to Buddy despite his flaws and internal struggles. I think it hurts more to recognize he never received the validation or recognition for his efforts. His “soul?” died holding Buddy and crying, while reiterating how much purpose she gave to him during his life. I love the Lisa franchise and this whole scene fills me with genuine heartache.
@@zink0p Very understandable hah! For me it's Mother 3, but Earthbound also came close. Ended with a calm, sombre tone that just left a nice fuzzy feeling.
that's why I love these games. ideally balance on the verge of absurdity, madness and the whole drama) The most comedic tragedy. the most tragic comedy
This game hit me so hard because it reminded me so much of my own childhood. My dad was delusional, he thought that the world was going to end with in the next 30 years and I, with his training, was the only one who could save people in it. I learned survival, hunting and college level topics from the age of 6. I love my dad I really do, because I know he wanted what was best for me but that doesn’t take away from the very real fact that he was abusive, even if not intentionally. Playing this game from brads perspective was a really hard thing because he reminded me so much of my dad. This boss fight though, broke me.
On its own this song is hardly sad. Feels more hopeful than anything. But in context. You played through the entirety of the main story, then you fight against your own father. Now you're about to get what you finally want. You're finally going to be free. Happy. Then all of a sudden You were wrong. Everything you did was wrong. Your desires were built upon a fabricated idea. The truth is you could have been happy. You could have. But that's past you now. It's over. Finish what you started. When the dirt settles you're given a choice. Give it all up and join the mutants, or own up to your mistakes and take the vaccine. Either ending, you see her with her father, giving him one last goodbye. Almost as if to apologize for everything she had done.
most of this doesnt just apply to Buddy, but to Brad as well. He had to fight against his father, tried to find happiness and had to understand his ideals were all based on a fantasy world that wasnt real. Much like Brad himself, Buddy has become a mirror image of her own father.
This feels like loosing everything, feeling cold and numb, but with the mildest feeling of relief. The relief that everything is over. There's nothing left. And maybe- That's for the best.
My mother is dead, cancer got her. I never got well with my dad, specially because of my sexuality. My mother is dead, so is my aunt, his youngest sister, due to heart failure. After that, me and my father got much much better. My father almost died of a heart attack, he got resurrected. Now he stand near a heart surgery, he is confident he will survive, but the fear stands. Each time one of those events happened, this music hits different, but it always hit me very hard, thank you for this.
I'm really sorry, that actually sounds heartbreaking... but it's good that you both have the strength to face and overcome it. I wish you all the best and believe in you 🙏
as someone with a rocky relationship with my dad due to a lot of things both in his control and not in his control, this part completely broke me. The realization that for all the times your dad fucked up, the times you thought he was the worst person in the world, that he was suffocating you and holding you back, he was just doing his goddamned hardest to protect you, to help you grow and thrive, to *_love_* you, that for all the times you hated him for not doing better, he hated himself a hundred times more for not being able to do better is legitimately one of the most painful realizations you can come to.
I really, really like that this is now a place where people bring forwards their stories and experiences with their parents or of parenthood in general, completely in line with what I really think this game is trying to convey. It brings me to tears, but not necessarily tears of sadness. I will also say that I've had experience of substance abuse in my family, which has definitely affected me, yet I was also able to see where it came from, why it was deemed a crutch. And now, not too long ago, they have quit. I didn't think I would see the day, and yet it happened. Many other life-happenstances occured at the same time (layoff from a long-term job fx), which has contributed, but I'm still so proud. It makes me think that change for the possible is better, no matter how bleak it seems. How it's about figuring out why the bad habits are there in the first place, and then encouraging the positive change and believing it. Atleas that's what I want to tell myself, and those reading this. I had honestly really lost hope for the change, and then one seemingly random day, it happened. People are imperfect, but they are still - the majority of the time - trying. Even if they fail. But most of the time, they mean the best they can do. Like Brad.
I would never cry over a game but the fact that brads life was so awful hit so hard. It was like buddy was killing all those memories with brad after everything. Brad did the best he could to make buddy happy, and even made her a mask to go out in public. Even after all he tried to do, buddy didn't like him. Buzzo tortured him his whole life and had an abusive childhood, and wanted to raise buddy like his sister but better
As somebody who's had a not so great relationship with their own father, this moment and track hurt deep. I can't express in words how much this hurts. Amazing work
Brad helped me empathize with a very flawed person I used to call a friend, I think he's a good man now but I can't reach him to find out. Thank you for these games, they hurt.
i didn't cry when i was fighting brad but coming back to hear this and read the comments has gotten the flood gates of feels fall through and lost it. beautiful game thanks Diddly and Marina.
Everything in this game from the writing, music, corny jokes and the way it handles combat is just absolutely perfect. Thanks to everyone who worked on this game, you guys are the best!
when i bought the soundtrack, i almost deleted this track from my phone, i've had some bad, bad memories with my own, actual father, but even at his worst he still tried his best to be a father to me, but his addiction took him away first, even now this song just breaks me, and i don't think i'll ever resonate more with a moment in a game then this.
es impresionante como este juego es tan bueno. pobre brad, pobre buddy, pobre Rando y todo el mundo, en olathe era simplemente imposible ser una "buena" persona y mantener la moralidad y la ética si todos ya la habían perdido.
I really want to see rando hugging brad instead the guy really deserve it But this is my favorite moment in the entire lisa series buddy finally accepting brad as her dad she finally understood him and share one final goodbye to become what brad wanted to become a good Parent to his family then she buried her brother and got free.
I dont have a great relationship with my mother, but after LISA i dont know how to feel about her. I look back at her past wrong doings and all the times she has made me cry, and try to make sense of it. I know she is doing what she thinks is right. She doesn't have a good upbringing either, she had it worse than me as a kid. it makes me think if im in the wrong for thinking she is a complete asshole. why is this house so confusing
Looking back at when I heard this song for the first time and knew who I was fighting while it played,I cried mad hard and I still did playing through joyful again recently.
"Buddy. Yep, Buddy. That was the best I could come up with. Well, it's simple. You're my little Buddy. I always called you that when you were a baby. I guess it just stuck. Brad and Buddy. It sounds good to me."
Dam my chest.
That line brought the most tears out of my eyes
Word can hurt u😔
I wasn't ready for Brad to start healing me
No, it was actually really cruel to the player in a way, and even more when you realize, this is not Brad soul or something like that, this is the deepest desire in buddy subconcious, thats what joy do at the end.
@@josephcroeniangamer3727
Doesn't she rip Brad to shreds if she mutates?
@@a.k8185 mutations represent desire by shape, all of them are murderer machines by action.
@@josephcroeniangamer3727
Makes sense.
This is the most damage I've taken in a boss fight
Physical damage:
*-0*
Feelings:
*-999,999,999*
*+Depression* *+Crying*
even flex seal cant fix that
I don't care how much of a man someone claims to be, if you've come this far, and this "fight" doesn't break you, you aren't human
@@FastFoodVicar it did break me 100%
@._. nope, i was just bored with the game my previous name was based on so i changed it
""You have to know this Buddy. I was completely lost before I found you. You made me feel things I'd never felt before... You showed me what love really is. And that's why when I look into your eyes, it's the scariest feeling in the world."
I feel bad now..
@@MassHaste I feel Brad now.
There is no joy, only pain.
@@MassHaste now consider, it wasnt Brad saying this, hearing this was just the most pure and deep desire in buddys mind
Bruh, hard hit in your heart
Took me until now to realize the title is a reference to Buzzo's question, "Who is he to you?" to Buddy.
**"The nobody hates himself"**
Brad: +Depression
Me: +Depression
also me: +Sadness +Depression
+Crying
*doesn't want to do this
Ah yes, the one moment in this game that made me cry like a bitch
"Buddy.
Yep, Buddy.
That's the best I could come up with.
Well, it's simple.
You're my little buddy.
I always called you that when you were a baby. I guess it just stuck.
Brad and Buddy.
It sounds good to me."
もっと日本でも広まって欲しいなぁ
I want LISA to become more famous in Japan.
That would be great! Can someone please translate for them? Please!?
in Russia, although it is translated, it is not known at all
@@sanyabuharev8319 can you give me a source for a Russian translation? I have a non English speaking friend that I'd like to show this game to
@@sanyabuharev8319 к большому сожалению. Лучшее во что я играл за последние несколько лет
Yeah a traduction for japan, russian and now in spanish and britanico
The squeakiness of the flute really makes it sound like a crying child aaA
or maybe its just you crying while listening to this
"Children begin by loving their parents; after a time they judge them; rarely, if ever, do they forgive them."
-Oscar Wilde
I have forgiven mine but on the condition that they forgive me as well.
I don't know what your talking about
I got lucky to have the best parents in the world, so I can't forgive them, for nothing is there to be forgiven
extremely sad quote. matches with the song and game
@@griss295 be grateful everyday. most people don't have that luxury.
i tend to have a problem with that quote since... most of the time there is nothing to forgive and very little to judge this quote has often caused so many people to go down a selfdestructive path and then shift the blame
I just realized something that I’m not sure whether it was intentional or not. In Painful during the cutscene where Buzzo forces Brad to take joy, Buzzo asks Buddy “Who is he to you?” I get the feeling that the title of this track is Buddy’s final response to the question.
“Who is he to you?”
“He’s my dad”
God, these games are masterpieces
GOD I NEVER REALISED THIS THIS HURTS EVEN MORE NOW
Make sense, kinda thought about it myself.
This wasn't the toughest enemy, but damn if it wasn't the hardest fight.
I don't think I've ever seen a line that describes this battle as good as this one
I remember i played this game and not too long after, my dad died from an overdose.
This song makes me think of him and I can’t help but cry
As someone who grew up with addict parents this game really handled the subject beautifully.
Substance abuse addiction is one of the hardest things to get out of but that doesn’t mean the addict themselves isn’t trying, they still care about the people around them and they’re hurting just as much as us
My mom recently died last year after finally being sober for a few months and I couldn’t be prouder
I love you mom and dad
I miss you so much
"Daddy comforts you"
This hurts so much. I never had a dad and never cared about it. But when I saw Brad's "attacks", it made me wonder what it must be like... to have a daddy who comforts you...
❤️
Same
Animals who grew up without a dad aren't human.
@@ghoul4748 bro what?
@@ghoul4748 Crawl back to your hole please, this is a place of comfort for everyone else.
"Did I do the right thing?"
Hurts every damm time i read it
No
If crying is one of them, then yes. Yes he damn did 💔
"Brad was the real villian" Brad was a victim, I think everything he ever did wrong can be traced back to what someone else did to him.
The whole series is about cycles of abuse; the Painful was specifically about Brad's struggles with his daughter, and his attempts to not become his father. His father was completely unapologetic throughout his whole parenthood; Brad, however, grew and changed.
@@draguOdoT Same holds true for all the characters in this, including Dustin, Buddy, even Lisa. All of them are flawed products of their environment, doing the best they can but making terrible mistakes and succumbing to their worst impulses. You can't let them off the hook for what they've done but you can pity how they got there and why.
@@draguOdoT You give me that good old LISA pain with your words of truth...
Well I mean everyone in the series can be linked to some moment that turns them into a victim. Even Marty to an extent became who he became due to the death of his wife. In a sense no one person in Lisa is truly a bad guy, rather everyone has a moment that turns them into what they become. No one is truly free of their past and often that just creates more victims.
@@MrPoopenFarten I'd say the bad, or at least the bad-der guys are the ones who let those moments take them over and start taking it out on others.
This game.. my goodness. the whole trilogy literally shows how hurting people *hurt* people.. There is a quote "If you never heal from what hurt you, you'll bleed on people who didn't cut you."
Believe it or not, but forgiveness can and will help with the healing process. It doesn't mean it was okay what they did, it doesn't even mean you have to like them or talk to them... Forgiving is necessary because you deserve healing. You deserve to be set free from that past.
"You have to know this Buddy. I was completely lost before I found you. You made me feel things I'd never felt before... You showed me what love really is. And that's why when I look into your eyes, it's the scariest feeling in the world. It's why I buried myself so deep into the darkness. But, I promise you, I tried so hard to fight it. I tried. And no matter what, I really did love you with all my heart. I'm so sorry I failed you, Buddy. I miss you so much."
Brad Armstrong
❤️
Yado was Buddy's father, but Brad... he's her Dad.
This song sounds so innocent, something that not many people in the Lisa series are. But in this case, I think it makes it bittersweet when paired between Buddy and Brad. Buddy is the only girl alive, and she's experiencing childhood like no other girl before her did (aside from Lisa of course). She's still so young, and instead of enjoying life, she has to make so many sacrifices for it. She hated the only man who she could call a parental figure because he clearly did and made her do terrible things. But in the end it seems like even she understood the intention he had to make her commit to those actions. However, it still cost her any last trace of purity she had within. She can never be a little girl, because she has to fight like a woman.
the last sentence is so deep tho
This song, and its contextual meaning, hits closer to home than possibly any other piece of fiction I ever got to experience. It tackles the topic of abusive parents in a nuanced way in ways that certain other works of fiction like God, the Devil and Bob never did: by leaving all the ugly, raw abuse visible, and on display.
Buddy saw Brad as a monster for the longest time, and we saw the reasons for it; he did things that Marty did, no matter how good his intention; he refused to let her out of the house without hiding her face, like Marty did with Lisa. He taught her that the world was "kill or be killed," and forced her to stab a man, all while refusing to even let her take comfort in calling him her "dad".
But in spite of this, there was genuine good in the things he did. He wanted to protect her. He wanted her to be able to determine her own fate, and not just be cattle for people to breed with. And Buddy realized this in this boss fight. And actualized her mission more because of it.
When I was 12, my mother broke her back. She had dated abusive and neglectful men before that, so I hadn't been blind to the realities of abuse in the past. But she changed after she broke her back. It never healed right. She was in constant pain. The first three years of it I had to listen to her down the hall, constantly, groaning in agony, screaming "Oh my god-". She became addicted to opioids. Eventually, we lost our car, and with it, her ability to transport me to things I needed to do outside of school.
I began walking across town every day, after school, to get her her cigarettes. There were a lot of days where I was too tired to do so, that I didn't want to. She'd say that the cigarettes help her manage the pain, keep her mentally focused. She said she needed her boy to help her. And I did it because I thought I was. Nevermind the fact that the smoking was a direct problem that led to us nearing eviction on countless occasions.
By the time I finished high school, things had gotten slightly better. She had a car again, we could go around as needed. Then her social security bonus for me being a full-time student dried up. And the finances became tighter as a result.
Once I had found work, she became reliant on me for money. But not just to pay the bills. Or for her cigarettes. She had gotten into buying pills illegally. New Jersey has an opioid addiction epidemic, so they'd been restricting doctors' ability to administer Opioids over the years. My mother bought them off of her friends over the years as a result to supplement that. And as I became more privy to the financial hell this put on us, with how much of the burden I'd taken on with the bills, I began having mental breakdowns over the 4 years.
And amidst all this, she began having strokes and getting into accidents, totalling the cars we had. I had bought 4 cars over the course of living with her. Four. The first two I couldn't even get insurance money back for, because the first one we didn't have collision, and the second she decided to take it off within months of her accident.
The third was her in the midst of her mind becoming the rotted, decayed mess it is now, amidst a series of intense strokes in which her frontal lobe was clogged. I can't blame her for that. Only my own selfish, irrational expectation that things were gonna get better, that I could still trust her.
The fourth was my own doing, after one stressful morning of her once again making me nearly late for work as I drove.
But the straw that broke the camel's back was her getting caught driving on a suspended license, 2 weeks from my birthday. For the 4th time in 2 weeks, before she finally told me that fourth time. I was furious. I was done. I told her I was moving out afterward. She immediately begged me not to, begging to just be allowed to jump in front of a train.
By the end of that year, I had moved out, as did she, as she had no other choice. We went our separate ways. And I barely talk to her now.
But every now and then, I get pangs of my childhood rushing back to my head. Of the mother I had, the one that wasn't a selfish, drug-addicted husk. The one that did her best. The one that, against all the odds, the single motherhood, the abusive dickheads, the family that rejected her time and again because they were jealous of her being the one to attract men and have kids.
She perservered through it all to raise me, her baby boy.
And this breaks me sometimes. I can't think for hours.
Damn, thanks for sharing.
People talk a lot about other story points in Lisa, but not a lot talk about the major plot of the trilogy, the generational cycle of abuse.
In Brad's attempt to not be like Marty for Buddy, he created his own, neglectful type of abuse towards her. Buddy resented him for that and became violent and aggressive, slowly becoming like Marty, and the cycle begins anew.
It feels like once you've been abused you're thrown into this vicious cycle. You try to run from it. You try to not be like your abusive parent(s). But in doing so you slowly become like them anyways.
It's like the only winning move is not to play. You're doomed from the start.
What terrified me the most wasn't that I saw my dad being Brad in this situation, it was that I saw myself becoming Brad in this situation too. It made me feel sick. It makes me wonder, am I a good person? Did I do the right thing?
You have carried an impossibly heavy burden man. No matter how you feel about it, I hope you are able to find solace in the fact that you did it out of gratitude and love, even if the person you were expressing it to is long gone. I wish you all the good in the world to heal you from this.
This is so depressing to read, especially with the music playing
I’m really sorry for you and your mom and I hope you two are ok, thank you for sharing your story with us
the lisa games are the only games I've played that made me cry
same, and that's okay. It means the devs accomplished their goal.
Same
Same, not even undertale could make me cry.. but lisa? Lisa got me crying like a baby
I felt this way thanks to omori, God do I love indie games. I've played like 15 lasy year, the only "Big Ones" I Need are everhood, the blinding of Isaac and hollow knight. They Need to make more of these games...
I didn't feel that emotionally affected when I played Lisa the Painful, but this scene in Joyful got me. Because, even though the Lisa world is gruesome, and Brad raised Buddy in a way that would be insane in our world, still... When you strip the situation down to its core, you just see a dad who tried to do what he thought was best for his child, but ended up hurting them instead. It hits close to home because it's such a common and tragic situation so many real people go through. But the fact that Buddy still sees him as a dad during the final battle gives me hope that maybe, at least at the end, she forgave him.
It was hard to “fight” Brad. He kept healing Buddy no matter how much she hit him. 😢
I swear to god, the LISA game series has been the first to have ever consistently make me tear up from anything. Everytime I come back to this scene I just can’t resist the gut wrenching I feel from seeing Brad genuinely try and care for Buddy despite his flaws and past traumas, only to hate himself in the end for failing nonetheless.
That shit cuts real fuckin deep. Well played Dingaling. I am bawling.
This hits me so hard. I always had problems with my dad and I kinda hate him but, at the same time, I remember the good old days with him, when he was an extraordinary guy and a lovely dad, this song destroys me inside.
I love this game so much and his entire music, it helped me getting things over and move forward and save the good memories for my sake because at the end of the day, I have people around me who loves me and cares for me, and its all what matters.
(Sorry if you don't understand my typing, I'm learning this language and I just wanted to word my feelings)
Jonnie, saving the good memories is our choice yes ❤️. Also I do think seeing beauty in people is strong, vulnerable and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your feelings with us.
(English is my second language too 🙂)
@@MarinaHovaW2D What's your first language ?
@@starmenslayer6949 Marina - Russian; Widdly 2 Diddly - English
un abrazo
Комрад:)))
+Crying
+depression
@@BlackWolf-uw3bp Dad comforts you
@@Li8aGun92 thx UwO
Funnily enough, your pfp is crying
Its different for the boss to not fight back, but when the boss starts HEALING you, and starts taking self damage, THATS when it hits hard. No game has made me actually tear up like this
When you're a kid you look up to your parents. They're almost deified in your eyes. They feed you, clothe you, take care of you. It's not until you get older and see the mistakes they've made and who they are as people that you realize that they're just human. They make mistakes, just like anyone else. I know there are people with really shitty parents out there... and I want you to know I'm sorry for anything they've done to you. Even if they can't or won't apologize.
Anytime I hear this, I feel something hit me harder than a truck. I feel so happy, joyful, good about what this makes me experience, people might think I'm sad while I cry
I looove this song!
+Crying
+Depression
This song is heartbreaking, yet uplifting, it's beautiful to watch the event unfold but it left me feeling like I was hit with a diesel fire bomb
Aka PAINED
"I. AM. ON. FIRE!"
SEBBY????
I just noticed the fact that this song doesn't feature trumpets, i think it means that even when someone conquers the earth, in our minds, in our hopes, we are safe. Or rather, we have the choice to.
Maybe it could also be a parallel of Buddy's biological father, Yado and Brad, her adoptive Dad.
Buddy has no trumpets here because the title "He's my Dad" isn't about Yado, it's about Brad and who he truly was to Buddy in the end?
Lost my dad 4 months ago from pancreatic cancer. It’s gonna be even harder to play through this again on the definitive edition.
May your father rest in peace I guess he loved you very much I'm sorry to hear that 😓
Somethings happening I can FEEL IT
"you're my little buddy"
When I tell y'all I started crying my eyes out
I always start ugly crying when Brad comforts Buddy and she regains health
I've been deeply touched by this game and I still remember it clearly.
I just don't know how to deal with these feelings bro
❤️
Dude, I played the saga again a few days ago, and this song has been stuck in my head for three days. It's the first thing that invades my mind as soon as I wake up. Honestly, it's hard for me to handle everything this song evokes, but I guess that's the thing..
Ironic, Joyful was the one to make me cry an entire ocean, while Painful didn't
Painful made me have a weird, empty feeling in my stomach.
Joyful made me fucking depressed.
@@spoono agreed immensely
I think it took everything you had experienced and just amplified it. There was no build up, it was a shorter game that started right at the peak of it all. It was being kicked while we were already down
LISA:The joyful tore me a new asshole from how sad it was
For me, painful made me cry really hard and left me empty. For me, joyful was incredibly impactful and it was so much to take in I didn't even react. Now, looking back on joyful I'm crying like a bitch
Never thought a video game would make me call my dad out of the blue just to tell him that I loved him.
Lisa's funny like that.
One reason why this is one of my favorite games ever is because its not afraid to go over heavier subjects such as abuse. It shows more then just one perspective and i love that a lot
I never really cry at video games, but god damn it, this track never fails to get me choked up. It illustrates what it is like to say goodbye to a loved one for the last time perfectly.
this makes me think about how i'm always so hard on my mom for the way she treats me. i guess she's equally as traumatized by life, i hope we can fix our relationship someday
It’s when the Xylophone and Flute start playing the high notes together that kills me everytime.
I finished both the Painful and Joyful roughly about 3 days ago, got through both games in about 4 days or so. I just want you guys to know, Austin, Marina, Widdly, and everyone else who helped to make these games happen, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for being a shining example of how to make a master class piece of media. I can't wait to see what other masterpieces all of your hard work is going to inspire. The games over, but the impact it has made on me and so many others has crushed me and relieved me in ways no game had done before.❤️ from the bottom of my heart and all of the friends who played along with me, thank you.
Thank you for these kind words (I'll make sure Austins sees it). Btw, LISA is made entirely by one person Austin aka Widdly aka Dingaling 😉. I (Marina) helped with couple soundtracks and VO for the Joyful.
Can't bring myself to listen to more than a note of this song
@Willy DY + Deppression
'I promise you, I tried so hard to fight it. I tried. And no matter what, I really did love you with all my heart. I'm so sorry I failed you, Buddy. I miss you so much."
I'm not crying you are
This is one of the most touching theme of the game and never fail to make me tear up.. I wish the game version of the the song can be uploaded too 😔
"The nobody is a failure"
"The nobody hates himself"
Relatable
So frikkin sad...
my girlfriend's father just died from an hearth attack and her heart just broke, when I played this part of the game it broke my heart too...I love this song, it just makes me feel the love of a father, which I never had and now my girlfriend will never have anymore...Brad just did its best, like my gf's dad and now we remember him for the good things he did
I just finished the Lisa games. It’s 4am, and I have only ever cried one other time while playing a game. This fight had me sobbing like a baby. I didn’t even want to finish the game. I fought every urge in my body to keep me from alt-f4 my game. The soundtrack only made me feel worse and after just finishing Painful and nearing the end of Joyful. I cried hard. I realized how much Brad had grown and tried his best to be good to Buddy despite his flaws and internal struggles. I think it hurts more to recognize he never received the validation or recognition for his efforts. His “soul?” died holding Buddy and crying, while reiterating how much purpose she gave to him during his life. I love the Lisa franchise and this whole scene fills me with genuine heartache.
What was the other game that made you cry, if I can ask?
@@sweetwheatsy earthbound!
@@zink0p Very understandable hah! For me it's Mother 3, but Earthbound also came close. Ended with a calm, sombre tone that just left a nice fuzzy feeling.
that's why I love these games. ideally balance on the verge of absurdity, madness and the whole drama) The most comedic tragedy. the most tragic comedy
This game hit me so hard because it reminded me so much of my own childhood. My dad was delusional, he thought that the world was going to end with in the next 30 years and I, with his training, was the only one who could save people in it. I learned survival, hunting and college level topics from the age of 6. I love my dad I really do, because I know he wanted what was best for me but that doesn’t take away from the very real fact that he was abusive, even if not intentionally. Playing this game from brads perspective was a really hard thing because he reminded me so much of my dad. This boss fight though, broke me.
+Crying
+Loved
-Depression
-Pain
On its own this song is hardly sad. Feels more hopeful than anything.
But in context. You played through the entirety of the main story, then you fight against your own father.
Now you're about to get what you finally want. You're finally going to be free. Happy. Then all of a sudden
You were wrong. Everything you did was wrong. Your desires were built upon a fabricated idea.
The truth is you could have been happy. You could have. But that's past you now. It's over. Finish what you started.
When the dirt settles you're given a choice. Give it all up and join the mutants, or own up to your mistakes and take the vaccine.
Either ending, you see her with her father, giving him one last goodbye. Almost as if to apologize for everything she had done.
most of this doesnt just apply to Buddy, but to Brad as well.
He had to fight against his father, tried to find happiness and had to understand his ideals were all based on a fantasy world that wasnt real. Much like Brad himself, Buddy has become a mirror image of her own father.
This feels like loosing everything, feeling cold and numb, but with the mildest feeling of relief. The relief that everything is over. There's nothing left. And maybe- That's for the best.
both the easiest and hardest final boss of any videogame
❤️
the xylophone and flute sounding like kids toy instruments really fucked me over gosh
No matter how old I get...this song just breaks me into tears.
this scene hit like a freight train to the point that the song makes me cry
My mother is dead, cancer got her.
I never got well with my dad, specially because of my sexuality.
My mother is dead, so is my aunt, his youngest sister, due to heart failure.
After that, me and my father got much much better.
My father almost died of a heart attack, he got resurrected.
Now he stand near a heart surgery, he is confident he will survive, but the fear stands.
Each time one of those events happened, this music hits different, but it always hit me very hard, thank you for this.
I'm really sorry, that actually sounds heartbreaking... but it's good that you both have the strength to face and overcome it. I wish you all the best and believe in you 🙏
can't be alone in listening to this when I really miss someone right
as someone with a rocky relationship with my dad due to a lot of things both in his control and not in his control, this part completely broke me. The realization that for all the times your dad fucked up, the times you thought he was the worst person in the world, that he was suffocating you and holding you back, he was just doing his goddamned hardest to protect you, to help you grow and thrive, to *_love_* you, that for all the times you hated him for not doing better, he hated himself a hundred times more for not being able to do better is legitimately one of the most painful realizations you can come to.
“And for a moment… Fuck… I got to know just how much my dad loved me”
@@noahrules7146 Secret ending.
clicked on it to find out which song it was and first few notes of the song and tears just started rolling from my eyes
the spiritual pain start turning in physic pain
I don't know how I managed to not cry during this scene. Possibly the most heart-twisting moment in both Painful and Joyful.
If you are looking to cry, this is the song and even more so when you know the context.
I really, really like that this is now a place where people bring forwards their stories and experiences with their parents or of parenthood in general, completely in line with what I really think this game is trying to convey. It brings me to tears, but not necessarily tears of sadness.
I will also say that I've had experience of substance abuse in my family, which has definitely affected me, yet I was also able to see where it came from, why it was deemed a crutch. And now, not too long ago, they have quit. I didn't think I would see the day, and yet it happened. Many other life-happenstances occured at the same time (layoff from a long-term job fx), which has contributed, but I'm still so proud. It makes me think that change for the possible is better, no matter how bleak it seems. How it's about figuring out why the bad habits are there in the first place, and then encouraging the positive change and believing it. Atleas that's what I want to tell myself, and those reading this. I had honestly really lost hope for the change, and then one seemingly random day, it happened.
People are imperfect, but they are still - the majority of the time - trying. Even if they fail. But most of the time, they mean the best they can do. Like Brad.
When his name changes from Brad to Dad I hurt.
Damn that scene hit hard
Mother 3 - I have saddest fight with family member.
Lisa The Joyful - Hold my Potato liquor.
hold my joy
I would never cry over a game but the fact that brads life was so awful hit so hard. It was like buddy was killing all those memories with brad after everything. Brad did the best he could to make buddy happy, and even made her a mask to go out in public. Even after all he tried to do, buddy didn't like him. Buzzo tortured him his whole life and had an abusive childhood, and wanted to raise buddy like his sister but better
As somebody who's had a not so great relationship with their own father, this moment and track hurt deep. I can't express in words how much this hurts. Amazing work
Brad helped me empathize with a very flawed person I used to call a friend, I think he's a good man now but I can't reach him to find out. Thank you for these games, they hurt.
i didn't cry when i was fighting brad but coming back to hear this and read the comments has gotten the flood gates of feels fall through and lost it. beautiful game thanks Diddly and Marina.
this is the most heart breaking, saddest music i have ever heard. and its much, much more impacting ingame
Been years and I still can't listen to it without tearing up.
Just listening to this song feels depressing. BUT KNOWING WHAT BRAD IS SAYING DURING THE FIGHT MAKES IT EVEN MORE PAINFUL (srry for caps)
Everything in this game from the writing, music, corny jokes and the way it handles combat is just absolutely perfect.
Thanks to everyone who worked on this game, you guys are the best!
when i bought the soundtrack, i almost deleted this track from my phone, i've had some bad, bad memories with my own, actual father, but even at his worst he still tried his best to be a father to me, but his addiction took him away first, even now this song just breaks me, and i don't think i'll ever resonate more with a moment in a game then this.
This was the first time in a long time that I cried over a fictional work, this scene really broke me
I've cried over a reasonable amount of movies and shows, but I don't think I've ever cried over a video game before. But my god
brad will always be one of the best
"Dad misses you."
es impresionante como este juego es tan bueno. pobre brad, pobre buddy, pobre Rando y todo el mundo, en olathe era simplemente imposible ser una "buena" persona y mantener la moralidad y la ética si todos ya la habían perdido.
En efecto
"It's enough to make a grown man cry."
“Forgive your dad, he didn’t mean it.”
- Louie Anderson
I really want to see rando hugging brad instead the guy really deserve it
But this is my favorite moment in the entire lisa series buddy finally accepting brad as her dad she finally understood him and share one final goodbye to become what brad wanted to become a good Parent to his family then she buried her brother and got free.
I don't think I'll ever be the same after this game...
This song really did give me +Crying and +Depressed
It sounds like something out of little big planet being used to the fullest of it's pathos. This song slaps
Did not expect to click on this one and to immediately start crying
I dont have a great relationship with my mother, but after LISA i dont know how to feel about her. I look back at her past wrong doings and all the times she has made me cry, and try to make sense of it. I know she is doing what she thinks is right. She doesn't have a good upbringing either, she had it worse than me as a kid.
it makes me think if im in the wrong for thinking she is a complete asshole.
why is this house so confusing
This song is Buddy’s equivalent of Goodbye, Baby
I dont think theres anything in gaming thats broken me like this before or since
I like to see the track title as being a callback to when Buzzo asked Buddy what Brad was to him
Looking back at when I heard this song for the first time and knew who I was fighting while it played,I cried mad hard and I still did playing through joyful again recently.
I had a fucking ugly cry at this part, Brad to dad to Nobody. Lost sad and missing his little girl.
Brad is technically cannonically alive with buddy. Not sure if that makes this sadder of happier.
I think it's sadder because he can't think because he sees buddy as lisa his deepest desire not as his daughter.
最高のタイミングで流れるbgm。
初見で泣きそうになった。