I live in Michigan and by ordering from Signature Solar over the phone I got free shipping, I purchased the Talesun 400 Watt Bifacial solar panels for less than $100 each. The price on their website if you buy a pallet of 36 panels is $3600, but then I also got the Military discount which was $108.00. Michigan Sales tax was $209.52, so technically if you include sales tax, I paid $102.82 per panel delivered right to my home in Michigan. Yes, I did have to purchase 36 panels which I plan to use all 36 of them, but I have friends begging me to sell them panels and are offering me $150 each. So if you don't want or need all 36 panels ( a full pallet ), you can sell the extra.
EU, Poland here. Few weeks ago I bought bifacial 390W Jolywood hd120n panels for 74USD each, with flat transport cost at about 120USD. All costs include VAT tax. It was from a large seller/distributor that has a lot of different brands, including the Ja, Trina, Hyundai and others. A year ago I bought the same panels, 9 of them, one was cracked. I reported that, got a refund for it and got to keep it for free. I sealed the crack with transparent silicone and it works just fine. There are many panels here that give more 5 watts per dollar. Hyundai was at about 5.6W per USD (18 cents/W). I'm guessing there have to be some additional duty costs in US for the prices to be that much higher, usually it is the other way around (EU vs US).
I showed a few options from Signature Solar in the later part of the video. They have the free shipping going on till the end of Feb. The only downside is that you have to order at least 10 of them. When picking up panels locally, sometimes you can buy 1, 2, or even 3 panels like I did.
This is great! I have wondered about used ones, but have always been worried. I didn’t realize new ones could be so low priced. Thank you. This is extremely useful.
With the extermely overrpriced installation costs I am surperised that there are no solar panel + inverter kits to install them in the garden. In germany you can buy the so called "balcony kits" where you get 1000W solar panels + 800W microinverter and directly connect them to the wall socket. And that's it. No inspection. No installation cost. Nothing. Just net metering or some other deal. Cost is something like 500 euro or less.
Homes in Europe have a built in backfeed safety switch at the meter. If the power fails, it keeps power from going back to the grid. The homes in the US have no such thing so linemen could be hurt or killed during a power outage. That's probably the main reason we don't have them here 😢
That's different than my answer though... If homes in the US had auto backfeed devices installed at the meter, I feel those cheap grid tie systems would be legal without all the red tape and permits... Also homes in the US are split phase 240v while in Europe they just have 240v. If you backfeed via 1 outlet in the US you are only feeding half the main panel and it gets complicated getting the two phases in sync.
@@Jasonoid For small loads it doesn't really matter for the phases to be in sync. If you start using a 120V hairdrier your 2 phases will immediately be out of sync. So much red tape. So much over regulation. America needs to self install kits to be saved. You now have $40K systems (without any battery) and the panels only cost $2K. That's ridiculous.
This is so helpful Jason! I really appreciate the video and all the options on how to find them! I am not on Facebook so thanks for the time to talk about the other options Thanks so much! Katy
@@Jasonoid I keep mulling it over.... Maybe I will take the plunge! Maybe I could sell my own little set of treasures there instead of eBay, as we continue to curate our collection (aka get rid of all the *#@*, aka downsize😀)
You have to wait for signature solar to have a free shipping sale. I just looked at a 10 panel bundle and it was more to ship than the cost of the panels.
I would love to see a quick video with some test results using the Talesun panels. They are such a good deal on Signature Solar with the free shipping and the low cost per panel. A bit over $1,000 + sales tax for 10, 400 watt bifacial panels. Wow
I bought new (imperfect) Sunpower Maxeon gen 5 IBC 450-watt panels for $40 each.. No tax and no shipping, as I picked up from the warehouse in Phoenix, AZ. The panels have over 22% efficency and were ranked #1 in the world... I'm happy 🙂 FYI: I got lucky with a end-of-year clearance sale.
Yes, bifacial panels just get extra power from the backside if they are mounted in a way that light can reflect on the back. You can also use them in a normal scenario too.
Thanks Jason for a great video. You have demonstrated that you can save a lot of money by shopping locally from your neighbors who have purchased pallets of quantities of these panels and are often willing to break up those pallets fewer than a whole pallet. A few questions arise that you haven't talked about in this video.: 1) There are a ton of solar panel companies out there. Almost every day I hear of another company that I've never heard of. Can you offer us any guidance on determining which are higher or lower quality? Are there any standouts that you would steer clear of or give preference to? Are domestically made panels necessarily of higher quality? 2) What do you think about bifacial panels? Are they a time-tested technology or is the jury still out? All the ones I've seen (again, there are a ton of different brands and I'm sure I've only come across a small fraction) have long warranties, but I'd rather not have to make a warranty claim. Now that they are out, do you think that we should give preference to them in for sale listings? Are there situations where they are not better or should be avoided? 3) Speaking of warranties, sellers on Facebook Marketplace often tout the long warranties, but do you really think these companies will honor the warranty from someone who did not actually make the order and is lacking in proof of purchase? 4) Are there any differences in the connections on panels that were produced for the general public versus those made for the commercial and government sectors? 5) I've gone onto the sites of some of these solar panel companies and they will have many panels with just a slight difference in wattage. For example 510, 520, 530 watts. Small incremental differences. Any tips to deciding which are best for you? I'm guessing it comes down to those Open Circuit Voltage (Voc)and Maximum Power Current (Imp) values and whether they are compatible with a particular power station or charge controller. Maybe there are other considerations. Thanks again for empowering us to build the best solar systems for our set of circumstance and budgets. Look forward to your next video. Cheers!
I found the glass is the main difference of various price panels. Some very cheap panel have very thin glass on them. One small hail can destroy all of them.
The 'expensive' panels shown in the video do not have any thicker glass, they are just using old pricing models hoping to take advantage of people who are unaware of recent price drops. BougeRV and EcoFlow don't even make the panels, they are just purchasing them from a manufacturer and slapping their brand on it. Don't be fooled, the panels from Signature solar are high quality UL listed panels. They do not have thinner glass.
Im a Salt Lake City resident too! Thank you for taking the time to educate us. I need a couple of 400W solar panels and I want to install on roofing. Can you recommend a brand and local installer for small job to power a battery system
@@peckerpeter2078 you find the panel you want locally from Facebook marketplace and then search the tech sheet online. Most residential panels are UL listed since they are capable of being grid tied.
I love hearing from local viewers! Haha These panels are usually around 35v to 40v. They are compatible with your 12v system, you just need to have the right charge controller that can handle the higher volts from your panels. Feel free to reach out here if you want more in depth guidance: asqme.com/@Jasonoid
This would be a nice Idea if Facebook Market Place would only give listings for what I ask for. But instead, out of all the listing there were, I would say only about 15 were about solar panels (and not even the specific ones I asked for) and all the rest had nothing to do with solar panels, i.e. jewelry, clothing, lawn care, etc. And the listings I did get, even though I asked for local pick up at a 20 mile radius, I was getting listing for either ship to you or the product was hundreds of miles away. I don't know what setting you were using but the ones I checked did not even help.
These residential 400w panels put out great power and they also have a 25 to 30 year warranty. I just found another three Q cell 395w panels yesterday for only $100 each! Amazing deal finding them locally so you don't have to pay for shipping or taxes.
I have a sloped roof that faces east and west; in the morning, there is shade on the west, and after 12 p.m., there is shade on the east. So, if I plan 5 panels on the east and 9 panels on the west, do I need optimizers on all of them to achieve maximum efficiency or Its enough to put microinverters on the east side panels and string inverters on the west side and combine both? Another thing is - is it advisable to avoid the 5 on the east and connect all of the 9 on the west in series for higher efficiency? I'm wondering - - If I have 15 microinverters on all of the panels, will it be expensive and ineffective because we get sun mostly on the west side and no sun on the east side after 12 p.m., so what is the point of having one on the east? -i am confused.. Could you please answer? I appreciate it.
If the panels are wired in a string of series, all power will be lost if there is shading. Microinverters perform best in a scenario of shading since each panel operates on it's own. I'd recommend doing micro inverters for that setup.
@@Jasonoid awesome, thanks for the advise. my quote has TIGO optimizers . what is your opinion on TIGO optimizers ? TIGO Optimizer is same as ENphase micro-inverter right ? or both are different functions. Please advise. thanks.
I would never do this unless I am buying one or two panels. The seller on facebook will never give an invoice and with no invoice I can't get the solar tax credits!
I guess it depends on the situation. You can buy panels for double the price and only get 30% back through your tax return or you can save the money upfront.
holey shit, i went on to my local facbook marketplace and a guy was selling 650W canadian solar Bifacial solar panels for $250 EACH and he has alot in bulk. the more you buy the more you save, if you buy a pallet of 31 panels from the dude he broke it down to 197 each panel, thats NUTS!
Mr. Jason , fantastic information and you selected one of my cities to look for solar panels. I had been thinking of buying one or two 400W solar panels just recently to mount on the roof of my shed to run a window unit A/C when I do work in there. All I have is a EcoFlow Delta Max 2000 and the 160W solar panel that came as a package on sale. Off hand do you know if two of these panels normally would be compatible with my power bank if they are connected in series or parallel.
Jason can I run 2 200 watt in solar panels parellel with my bluetti ac ac 180 to I know amps will be higher but I think you said the mppt will just limit it to 10 amps . Thanks love your channel👍
If I remember the AC180 has the voltage limit of 60 volts and an amperage limit of 10 amps. Each 200w panel is going to put out 20v & 10 amps so you won't be seeing any additional power with a parallel connection. Parallel connections combine the amperage, so if your panels are putting out 20 amps in parallel, the power station will only allow 10 amps. You'll need to connect those panels in series to see more charging power.
The charge controller makes them compatible. You select a charge controller which can handle the volts and amps from the panels and is compatible with the type and voltage of your batteries.
Only when purchased with a pallet of at least 10 and paying $350 freight shipping. (those low prices are only within the last 4 to 5 months since the demand for home installed solar crashed). I love that the price of solar panels has dropped, but last year the same 400w panel would have been $275 per.
This week I have bough 600w bifacial panels for 130 eur of course new, your video ones are too expensive, but I mean in usa you have higher wages so its just fine
Demand for solar panels has dropped significantly in the last 6 months. Price is driven by 'supply and demand'. Withots of stock on hand the price drops to clear out the product. The pricing is probably temporary. I'm sure they will go back up eventually and it's hard to say when it will. There's nothing wrong with these panels, they are excellent technology!
Good point about demand for solar panel falling. Some of that is due to the new solar regulations in California where it is now much less financially attractive to put solar on your house. @@Jasonoid
@@Jasonoid he just did a 400w rigid panel on the roof of his FJ like a week ago. Then there was the DC to DC charging stuff. I’m sure it’s coincidence. You have some unique takes on the gear. Not at all a criticism more like Deja Vu
I bought these panels over a month ago and I finally got the time to get to the video. I see that he used a BougeRV 400w panel in his recent video with his FJ, that thing is expensive!
They buy a pallet of 36 panels, they then install their own solar system using half of them. The rest they sell off for a slight profit. Or they are a distributor?
I live in Michigan and by ordering from Signature Solar over the phone I got free shipping, I purchased the Talesun 400 Watt Bifacial solar panels for less than $100 each. The price on their website if you buy a pallet of 36 panels is $3600, but then I also got the Military discount which was $108.00. Michigan Sales tax was $209.52, so technically if you include sales tax, I paid $102.82 per panel delivered right to my home in Michigan. Yes, I did have to purchase 36 panels which I plan to use all 36 of them, but I have friends begging me to sell them panels and are offering me $150 each. So if you don't want or need all 36 panels ( a full pallet ), you can sell the extra.
guy just saved me some money
Do you have any left to sell?
@@beastumfan not selling any
EU, Poland here. Few weeks ago I bought bifacial 390W Jolywood hd120n panels for 74USD each, with flat transport cost at about 120USD. All costs include VAT tax. It was from a large seller/distributor that has a lot of different brands, including the Ja, Trina, Hyundai and others. A year ago I bought the same panels, 9 of them, one was cracked. I reported that, got a refund for it and got to keep it for free. I sealed the crack with transparent silicone and it works just fine.
There are many panels here that give more 5 watts per dollar. Hyundai was at about 5.6W per USD (18 cents/W). I'm guessing there have to be some additional duty costs in US for the prices to be that much higher, usually it is the other way around (EU vs US).
Signature Solar has the Talesun 400 watt bifacial for 3600 for 36 or $108 each for 10+ free shipping
I showed a few options from Signature Solar in the later part of the video. They have the free shipping going on till the end of Feb. The only downside is that you have to order at least 10 of them. When picking up panels locally, sometimes you can buy 1, 2, or even 3 panels like I did.
YOU GOT A great price friend. They are now usd 128 in lots of 10 circa July 2024. haha
Thanks Jason. Dripping Springs is right down the road from Austin. Woohoo!
You might need to beat the other viewers to them! haha
This is great! I have wondered about used ones, but have always been worried. I didn’t realize new ones could be so low priced. Thank you. This is extremely useful.
With the extermely overrpriced installation costs I am surperised that there are no solar panel + inverter kits to install them in the garden. In germany you can buy the so called "balcony kits" where you get 1000W solar panels + 800W microinverter and directly connect them to the wall socket. And that's it. No inspection. No installation cost. Nothing. Just net metering or some other deal. Cost is something like 500 euro or less.
Homes in Europe have a built in backfeed safety switch at the meter. If the power fails, it keeps power from going back to the grid.
The homes in the US have no such thing so linemen could be hurt or killed during a power outage. That's probably the main reason we don't have them here 😢
@@Jasonoid No that is not the case since all microinverters, even the worst chinese crap, will shut down immediately if the main power goes off.
That's different than my answer though... If homes in the US had auto backfeed devices installed at the meter, I feel those cheap grid tie systems would be legal without all the red tape and permits...
Also homes in the US are split phase 240v while in Europe they just have 240v. If you backfeed via 1 outlet in the US you are only feeding half the main panel and it gets complicated getting the two phases in sync.
@@Jasonoid For small loads it doesn't really matter for the phases to be in sync. If you start using a 120V hairdrier your 2 phases will immediately be out of sync.
So much red tape. So much over regulation. America needs to self install kits to be saved.
You now have $40K systems (without any battery) and the panels only cost $2K. That's ridiculous.
@@johnzach2057 that's why I didnt install a grid tied / netmetering setup.
Why is there so many new ones available on FB marketplace?
Someone buys a full pallet of 36 panels, uses 25 for their install and they sell the leftovers.
8:37 I love your new Jeep!
I bought some 24v LFP batteries from BatteryHookup.Com, that thing flies now! Haha
@@Jasonoid haha, awesome!
Signature solar has good deals. Thanks for sharing about different ways to find if you just want a few..
I just got some Trijina 335 watt panels for $40 bucks a pop off Facebook marketplace. This guy had a warehouse full of good stuff
Excellent deal!
This is so helpful Jason! I really appreciate the video and all the options on how to find them! I am not on Facebook so thanks for the time to talk about the other options
Thanks so much!
Katy
I only use Facebook for the marketplace. It's totally worth the treasures! Haha
@@Jasonoid I keep mulling it over.... Maybe I will take the plunge! Maybe I could sell my own little set of treasures there instead of eBay, as we continue to curate our collection (aka get rid of all the *#@*, aka downsize😀)
@@KatysCampKitchen no seller fees on Facebook! 😉
You have to wait for signature solar to have a free shipping sale. I just looked at a 10 panel bundle and it was more to ship than the cost of the panels.
Finding them locally is also 'free shipping' and no tax either :)
I would love to see a quick video with some test results using the Talesun panels. They are such a good deal on Signature Solar with the free shipping and the low cost per panel. A bit over $1,000 + sales tax for 10, 400 watt bifacial panels. Wow
If the sun ever decides to show its face I can test them. I plan to put them on my shed this summer.
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Thanks Jason 😊👍 Appreciate your help finding more affordable alternatives
Not sure how long this trend will last, but the prices are super great right now!
I bought new (imperfect) Sunpower Maxeon gen 5 IBC 450-watt panels for $40 each.. No tax and no shipping, as I picked up from the warehouse in Phoenix, AZ. The panels have over 22% efficency and were ranked #1 in the world... I'm happy 🙂 FYI: I got lucky with a end-of-year clearance sale.
This is super exciting
Can bifacial panels be used for a camper setup where they'll primarily get sun from one side?
Yes, bifacial panels just get extra power from the backside if they are mounted in a way that light can reflect on the back. You can also use them in a normal scenario too.
You can get 370-watt panels for $65 in Las Vegas right now in pallet quantiles and $75 for induvials.
I love to hear that! Thanks for sharing and I hope people don't get ripped off by those online brands with overpriced panels!
Thanks Jason for a great video. You have demonstrated that you can save a lot of money by shopping locally from your neighbors who have purchased pallets of quantities of these panels and are often willing to break up those pallets fewer than a whole pallet. A few questions arise that you haven't talked about in this video.:
1) There are a ton of solar panel companies out there. Almost every day I hear of another company that I've never heard of. Can you offer us any guidance on determining which are higher or lower quality? Are there any standouts that you would steer clear of or give preference to? Are domestically made panels necessarily of higher quality?
2) What do you think about bifacial panels? Are they a time-tested technology or is the jury still out? All the ones I've seen (again, there are a ton of different brands and I'm sure I've only come across a small fraction) have long warranties, but I'd rather not have to make a warranty claim. Now that they are out, do you think that we should give preference to them in for sale listings? Are there situations where they are not better or should be avoided?
3) Speaking of warranties, sellers on Facebook Marketplace often tout the long warranties, but do you really think these companies will honor the warranty from someone who did not actually make the order and is lacking in proof of purchase?
4) Are there any differences in the connections on panels that were produced for the general public versus those made for the commercial and government sectors?
5) I've gone onto the sites of some of these solar panel companies and they will have many panels with just a slight difference in wattage. For example 510, 520, 530 watts. Small incremental differences. Any tips to deciding which are best for you? I'm guessing it comes down to those Open Circuit Voltage (Voc)and Maximum Power Current (Imp) values and whether they are compatible with a particular power station or charge controller. Maybe there are other considerations.
Thanks again for empowering us to build the best solar systems for our set of circumstance and budgets. Look forward to your next video. Cheers!
I found the glass is the main difference of various price panels. Some very cheap panel have very thin glass on them. One small hail can destroy all of them.
The 'expensive' panels shown in the video do not have any thicker glass, they are just using old pricing models hoping to take advantage of people who are unaware of recent price drops. BougeRV and EcoFlow don't even make the panels, they are just purchasing them from a manufacturer and slapping their brand on it.
Don't be fooled, the panels from Signature solar are high quality UL listed panels. They do not have thinner glass.
Im a Salt Lake City resident too! Thank you for taking the time to educate us. I need a couple of 400W solar panels and I want to install on roofing. Can you recommend a brand and local installer for small job to power a battery system
I don't have any local solar installers that I know. Canadian Solar, Talesun, and Aptos are all great brands that make 400w solar panels.
Which ones are using quality parts and actual copper? Plus avoid the ones that catch fire.
All these panels are high quality and should be UL listed, unlike Amazon solar panels.
@@JasonoidAre they UL listed?
Are they Class A fire rated?
I can’t find anything from that link doing quick search.
@@peckerpeter2078 you find the panel you want locally from Facebook marketplace and then search the tech sheet online. Most residential panels are UL listed since they are capable of being grid tied.
Outstanding video well done, sir. Thank you.
Such a good way to save money on a solar panel purchase!
Hey Jason, did not know you were in the SLC area. I'm in Ut County.
What is the voltage of these panels? Unfortunately, my cabin setup is 12V.
I love hearing from local viewers! Haha These panels are usually around 35v to 40v. They are compatible with your 12v system, you just need to have the right charge controller that can handle the higher volts from your panels. Feel free to reach out here if you want more in depth guidance:
asqme.com/@Jasonoid
I can buy new 440w panels for AUD$143 from a supply store locally in Australia. Longi i think
This would be a nice Idea if Facebook Market Place would only give listings for what I ask for. But instead, out of all the listing there were, I would say only about 15 were about solar panels (and not even the specific ones I asked for) and all the rest had nothing to do with solar panels, i.e. jewelry, clothing, lawn care, etc. And the listings I did get, even though I asked for local pick up at a 20 mile radius, I was getting listing for either ship to you or the product was hundreds of miles away. I don't know what setting you were using but the ones I checked did not even help.
That just means not much was in your area. Maybe widen your seach radius and try again in a week or so.
Thanks for sharing this info!
I've appreciated you sharing your solar efforts around your place = great inspiration to me :-)
Great information, thanks!
Its not about the cost/kwh it's how much can they actally output.
These residential 400w panels put out great power and they also have a 25 to 30 year warranty. I just found another three Q cell 395w panels yesterday for only $100 each! Amazing deal finding them locally so you don't have to pay for shipping or taxes.
@@Jasonoid how much did they output?
@@Gary-ee3kq when I tested I was getting 375 watts per panel and they weren't even angled properly.
@@Jasonoid is there a website to figure out the correct angle in our city. I don't have an illuminance meter yet.
gml.noaa.gov/grad/solcalc/azel.html
Please define "unmounted solar panel".
Thank you.
never installed in a system
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I was worried it was just the silicon die without the aluminum frame.
I have a sloped roof that faces east and west; in the morning, there is shade on the west, and after 12 p.m., there is shade on the east. So, if I plan 5 panels on the east and 9 panels on the west, do I need optimizers on all of them to achieve maximum efficiency or Its enough to put microinverters on the east side panels and string inverters on the west side and combine both? Another thing is - is it advisable to avoid the 5 on the east and connect all of the 9 on the west in series for higher efficiency? I'm wondering - - If I have 15 microinverters on all of the panels, will it be expensive and ineffective because we get sun mostly on the west side and no sun on the east side after 12 p.m., so what is the point of having one on the east? -i am confused.. Could you please answer? I appreciate it.
If the panels are wired in a string of series, all power will be lost if there is shading. Microinverters perform best in a scenario of shading since each panel operates on it's own. I'd recommend doing micro inverters for that setup.
@@Jasonoid awesome, thanks for the advise. my quote has TIGO optimizers . what is your opinion on TIGO optimizers ? TIGO Optimizer is same as ENphase micro-inverter right ? or both are different functions. Please advise. thanks.
I don't know much about grid tied solar equipment brands. I only do off grid stuff on my channel.
Thanks! I found some great new 400 watt solar panels on facebook marketplace thanks to your advice @$120 each.
Great pricing!
When is the next Prepper fair in the Salt Lake area
Not sure, I'm not really into that prepping stuff.
These just dropped in price locally, picking up 2 420w panels this tuesday. Prices are pretty much the same as shown in these videos.
Yeah, it's awesome!
I would never do this unless I am buying one or two panels. The seller on facebook will never give an invoice and with no invoice I can't get the solar tax credits!
I guess it depends on the situation. You can buy panels for double the price and only get 30% back through your tax return or you can save the money upfront.
Marketplace is a great resource
holey shit, i went on to my local facbook marketplace and a guy was selling 650W canadian solar Bifacial solar panels for $250 EACH and he has alot in bulk. the more you buy the more you save, if you buy a pallet of 31 panels from the dude he broke it down to 197 each panel, thats NUTS!
Im in ogden and also saw these deals.
Mr. Jason , fantastic information and you selected one of my cities to look for solar panels. I had been thinking of buying one or two 400W solar panels just recently to mount on the roof of my shed to run a window unit A/C when I do work in there. All I have is a EcoFlow Delta Max 2000 and the 160W solar panel that came as a package on sale. Off hand do you know if two of these panels normally would be compatible with my power bank if they are connected in series or parallel.
You could connect two in series on most of these (depending on the panel specs). I think the max voltage of the Delta Max 2000 is 100v right?
Jason can I run 2 200 watt in solar panels parellel with my bluetti ac ac 180 to I know amps will be higher but I think you said the mppt will just limit it to 10 amps . Thanks love your channel👍
If I remember the AC180 has the voltage limit of 60 volts and an amperage limit of 10 amps. Each 200w panel is going to put out 20v & 10 amps so you won't be seeing any additional power with a parallel connection. Parallel connections combine the amperage, so if your panels are putting out 20 amps in parallel, the power station will only allow 10 amps. You'll need to connect those panels in series to see more charging power.
Do solar panels work with any battery or inverter, or do i need to buy solar panels based on battery or inverter choice
The charge controller makes them compatible. You select a charge controller which can handle the volts and amps from the panels and is compatible with the type and voltage of your batteries.
@@david672orford thanks very much
Thanks man you saved me some bucks
Glad to hear it! What did you end up finding?
I just picked up three more brand new QCell 400w panels for only $150 each!
Yikes expensive even with the marketplace prices!
Trina 430W bifacial, $105 all in, New, retail price.
Only when purchased with a pallet of at least 10 and paying $350 freight shipping.
(those low prices are only within the last 4 to 5 months since the demand for home installed solar crashed).
I love that the price of solar panels has dropped, but last year the same 400w panel would have been $275 per.
I have a question if you dont mine, unrelated to this topic. What % of wattage of a solar panel should i expect on perfect conditions? Thanks
Power output depends on many factors. Tenperature, angle towards the sun, time of day. If those are all ideal, I'd expect 85% to 95% output.
if you buy solar panels on facebook market place how do you know they are good?
They are brand new on the pallet usually. Just bought another three 400w panels this week for $150 each for my friends off grid shed.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
This week I have bough 600w bifacial panels for 130 eur of course new, your video ones are too expensive, but I mean in usa you have higher wages so its just fine
Not true for Oklahoma City.
The options change per week. Just check in every now and then.
Please explain how these panels come to be so cheap?
Is this a recent trend?
What is the trend on these prices.
Demand for solar panels has dropped significantly in the last 6 months. Price is driven by 'supply and demand'. Withots of stock on hand the price drops to clear out the product. The pricing is probably temporary. I'm sure they will go back up eventually and it's hard to say when it will. There's nothing wrong with these panels, they are excellent technology!
Good point about demand for solar panel falling. Some of that is due to the new solar regulations in California where it is now much less financially attractive to put solar on your house. @@Jasonoid
As a Chinese supplier, told you: yes, price reduced much because of the stock, row materia and technical updates
@@Jasonoid "These panels" Which panels are you referring to? All panels for sale on FB Marketplace?
@@danielkramer8586 400w new panels, QCell, Talesun, Canadian Solar...
I suspect you follow tinkerers adventure. I see something over there and I see it here a short time later.
I just looked up that channel, it doesn't seem we have very similar content. He's an off road guy. Why do you think that?
@@Jasonoid he just did a 400w rigid panel on the roof of his FJ like a week ago. Then there was the DC to DC charging stuff. I’m sure it’s coincidence. You have some unique takes on the gear. Not at all a criticism more like Deja Vu
I bought these panels over a month ago and I finally got the time to get to the video. I see that he used a BougeRV 400w panel in his recent video with his FJ, that thing is expensive!
San Antonio here!!
Thanks Jason 💐😎
Who are these people that are selling new solar panels for so cheap?
They buy a pallet of 36 panels, they then install their own solar system using half of them. The rest they sell off for a slight profit.
Or they are a distributor?