Why do we divide by n-1 and not n? | shown with a simple example | variance and sd

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  • @tilestats
    @tilestats  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you like to see the mathematical proof of why we divide by n-1, have a look at this video:
    th-cam.com/video/Bmwtyz7grqk/w-d-xo.html

  • @merveak1129
    @merveak1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm a statistics student and I always wonder why we should divide by n-1. This video is very helpful in understanding the philosophy of statistics. Thank you very much for making this video and enlightening our brains and questions.

  • @sakkariyaibrahim2650
    @sakkariyaibrahim2650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    most convincing demonstration on this issue, so far. Great

  • @jimbobur
    @jimbobur ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I came across this video looking for the 'tons of maths' behind the proof for using n-1. Wikipedia's 4 lines of algebra on it are almost harder to follow than a hand-waving explanation.

  • @logansmith7719
    @logansmith7719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great explanation. Very helpful

  • @anthnyalxndr
    @anthnyalxndr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @TileStats for those not familiar with writing code, it may be useful to make a video demonstrating how you actually create these simulations using Python, R, or whatever you use. Similar to you, I sometimes find that I need to run a Monte Carlo simulation to understand a concept and trust that it actually works out as intended.

    • @tilestats
      @tilestats  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your suggestion. I will try to do that in the future.

  • @muhtorbekmuratov9430
    @muhtorbekmuratov9430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video !

  • @KonradGebura
    @KonradGebura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello, great video! I just have one question, why don’t we do n-2 or n-3? I get the degree of freedom idea but I don’t understand why degrees of freedom relate to the final calculation. Is this the result of trial and error to find the correct constant to subtract by?

    • @tilestats
      @tilestats  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the beginning of the video I mention that you can show mathematically why we divide by n-1. I would recommend this video that show that
      th-cam.com/video/D1hgiAla3KI/w-d-xo.html

    • @KonradGebura
      @KonradGebura 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tilestats Thank you for the recommendation! I now understand the logic behind the equation thanks to your video, as well as the proof for the constant being exactly -1.

  • @moktatafatforyou-2378
    @moktatafatforyou-2378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you great vedio

  • @booni5114
    @booni5114 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank for the great video, but why (at 7:42) do we lose one degree of freedom?

    • @tilestats
      @tilestats  ปีที่แล้ว

      Because you estimate one parameter (the mean) in order to calculate the variance.

  • @file4318
    @file4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for your video, it was very very good at explaining. But I have one more question, If descriptive statistics do not try to generalize to a population (since there is no uncertainty in descriptive statistics), then why does the sample standard deviation try to best estimate the population mean? Yet it is still considered a descriptive statistic

    • @tilestats
      @tilestats  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sample variance tries to estimate the population variance, which is best done by n-1 if we need to estimate the mean from the sample. The interval "mean +/- 1 SD" can be interpreted as it is expected to include approximately 68% of the data points, which does not hold if you divide by n instead or n-1 for small sample sizes.

  • @mfayed73
    @mfayed73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I thought that we divide to n-1 because if we measure variance between 2 points one of them is the SD and the other a normal point the this means we have 1 room or 1 shaded area that we measure the variance ...meaning if we have 2 points then we have 1 area ...3 points then 2 areas ...where the area represents the variance between the 2 points .... so we end up n-1 #of areas when n is #of points

    • @duckface8425
      @duckface8425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard something about degrees of freedom

  • @anilkumarsharma8901
    @anilkumarsharma8901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how many formulas in total statics
    so we found out something as constantant source of income

  • @MrConverse
    @MrConverse ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:30, the point representing 172 is too far to the right. It’s much closer to 175 than 172. Minor error but perhaps it will help someone avoid confusion.

  • @anilkumarsharma8901
    @anilkumarsharma8901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which country??

  • @comments94
    @comments94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why n-1 and not n-2 then?

    • @tilestats
      @tilestats  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a similar question below or above where I answered this.

  • @TheJuliusCo
    @TheJuliusCo ปีที่แล้ว

    I studied quantum mechanics, its the same principle, any ways students should be able to demstrate variance at any time, dont make math less

  • @FunctionalEfficientDesign
    @FunctionalEfficientDesign ปีที่แล้ว

    L.