I always loved the bit where McMama mentions that Derek sees things in black and white, but that Meredith doesn't. Then later in season 7, when Derek finds out Meredith messed with the Alzheimer's trial, he tells her that he doesn't understand that she can't tell the difference between right and wrong, to which she says "I don't think things are always just right or wrong". Great foreshadow! :)
Ok but it's not like he does either. He's not straight and narrow. He was married left his wife in new york, met Meredith in a bar, and slept with her and ended up falling in love with her. He slept with Meredith while at the prom with his wife. Therefore he don't see black and white either.
This is the only time Derek mom and Meredith have had any interaction. 16 seasons later and Mcmama hasn't come to visit Meredith and the kids yet since Derek died. Maybe seeing them will bring up feelings and emotions.
Dereks mum is only good when it comes to Derek ,because hes her favorite child ,but how she treats Amelia and didn't even got to her wedding ,I hate her for that ,amelia deserves the same as Derek ..
Boys always have a special place in their mother's heart, just like girls have a special place in their dad's heart. And Derek _was_ her only son so I'm not surprised she treated him better than his sisters.
I feel like Meredith is going to become like Carolyn when she’s older. She’ll know exactly what her kids are going through and she’ll most likely take in strays like Mark. Maybe she’ll give Bailey the ring Derek gave her for the girl he falls in love with when that time comes. ❤️
@@ObviouslyBlonde he did found it… in 5x19 when he came home he had the ring in the little box and then in the next episode you can see Meredith is holding it
I wanna find that person who appreciates being myself more than always being a little ray of sunshine. Just like Meredith, I'm not always chatty, and I don't wear a constant smile on my face. I'm kind of a melancholic person, and that doesn't mean I'm depressed or anything, I simply just feel my true feelings, and don't force myself to be happy when I'm not. But sadly it seems like no one likes that attitude, everybody wants a person who's always optimistic, and sees everything bright.
There are plenty of people that would appreciate that, you're a real one in a world of fake. Not to say everyone who is chirpy and happy is fake, it's just common that's all and to be chirpy all the time...that isn't realistic. You'll find someone who appreciates your personality, even on the hard days.
Oh trust me you BETTER that way, I’m a very socially awkward person and very anxious when I’m the center of attention and basically around people who don’t even know me, but whenever people speak to me or even look at me (including my family sometimes) I make myself so happy and bubbly even tho most times I’m totally falling apart and I don’t cry in front of people unless it’s my bests friend.. honestly you really rather be yourself and not fake it like I make my self.
I agree. I liked Izzie at the start of the episode, helping Meredith appear bright and shiny, because Meredith wanted Izzie to help her do that; so Izzie was being a good friend. But in the end Meredith chose to be honest, and while Izzie is allowed to feel a little irritated that she tried helping Meredith for nothing, that look of disappointment and shake of the head at Meredith being honest was uncalled for.
His sisters lived addie, Nancy and Addie were very close friend and Addie was a better big sister to Amy than her own real sisters were, Mcmoma like Addie and supported Derek’s decision long as she treated Derek good but she didn’t really think she was right for Derek . And she was right
you know here I like Mcmama but when Amilia and Owen were getting married then- oh then I hated her with all my breaking heart while Amy was crying on the phone saying- please mama I'm getting married .... Wish we could see more of her during the series.
M. Angelova it’s a sad thing but the whole family hates Amy because they don’t understand her but I do hope they will deal with Amy’s family issue it would be nice for them to give her the chance to deal with it all and tell them how she feels
@M.Angelova,Amelia's mom apologized and admitted that the reason she was like the way she was to Amelia was because she always reminded her of her father and that Amelia was so independent.
I love his mom already.❤😎 Her killer instinct was right.. I didnt understand her approval on Meredith then. Now I do. Derek sees in things in black and white, right and wrong. Meredith, she doesnt. She see things in Grey; Therefore Derek is gonna need some handful spoons of it from Meredith.😁❤
Derek's dad died when whe was little which means his mother raised 5 children and she did a great job because their all amazing doctors and she even raised Mark a little bit😅❤ Thanks for all the thumbs ups
nope derek was the favourite child his mother was never there for amelia and and amelia and her family were not close because she never told them about her fionce her baby
If raising a doctor is the measure of how good a parent you are then Ellis Grey was a wonderful mother too. I don't think what your kid does for a living is the best test for how good a parent you are. Derek's mom did seem better than Meredith's but she had her weaknesses and blind spots too.
Derek's mother was played by actress, Tyne Daly. Her younger brother is Tim Daly, who played Pete on Private Practice. Even Derek's uncle has slept with Addison. 😂 Also, Amy Brenneman played Violet on Private Practice, she and Tyne were mother-daughter on the legal drama Judging Amy. I just love all these connections.
I hate izzie in that last scene so much when Meredith confessed her true self to Derek’s mother and she shook her head disappointed in Mer. She should support her in being herself and not lying and being a fraud of who she is, if I were mer I would feel sad that my friend wanted me to be someone I’m not.
Meredith wasn’t really cold like Cristina,the first seasons she was sweet she had her issues with her family but she always acted like a positive person with Izzie,George,Alex and Cristina so I don’t think Izzie wanted so much to change her I think she wanted her to be more open with strange people like she was with her friends
@@hannacal8347 Yeah I totally see that now and I can find the first meeting funny where Izzie reminds her to smile and all that, that part I get because I probably would've done the same thing if my best friend is meeting her boyfriend's mother for the first time. But the part I don't like is when Derek's mother walks away and izzie shakes her head in disappointment as if shaming her and not respecting mer's decision to be herself. I get what you mean but just in this last scene if it were me I'd go make my friend feel better and comfort her instead of making her feel worse than what she's probably already feeling.
Love her😢she knew all along. But how can this be the same mom who didn’t come to Amelia’s wedding!?! Glad they reconciled now, but they definitely need to bring her on the show again, they could use a dose of her and let her meet all the grand babies 😢😢
I guess I can kind of see it. She's a powerhouse, practical and strong, and she might find it hard to understand what looks like flakiness or someone as emotional as Amelia. They are very different.
Amelia and he r im had that conversation, it’s in the details. Pretty much Amelia is so much like her father, and it’s hard for her mom to handle, which is why she has always kept Amelia at a distance and blamed the addiction and her behavior on why
Derek’s mother said she gave birth to 5 doctors; but we only ever knew Derek and Amelia as actual doctors. I thought the other 3 held just regular white collar jobs
I don’t think Derek’s mum necessarily hated Addison…she probably supported the Union but may have felt there was something missing…when she met Meredith she realised she was right and therefore gave him the ring to give to her…had Derek and Addison had kids, she could’ve made just a big a gesture by gifting it to her grandchild …
Vidyas comments : Derek's mom looking at Meredith as if she is a ghost. She is not very happy to see Meredith. She will not be too happy when her son would be dating an intern.
pffff he was merried for 11 years and back then in deed he thought that addison was the love of his life - how the fucking hell can she dare to say she wasnt right for him !!! at the time SHE WAS! #teamaddek!
Team Addek it wasn't that he didn't love addie they both probably loved each other but you could love someone more than anything and not be right for each other
i just hate that everybody pretends that addison wasnt the love of his life and they talk like he never really loved her he wrote a song for her "and in her eyes i saw my life, i knew that she would be my wife and she would breath the life back into me, from every day until eternity, until id be as dead as that body. " it breaks my heart. it think they were perfect for each other. dont get why his mom not even knows meredith and already gave him this ring it did hurt addison when she found out about this. she was his first!
Team Addek Addison wasn't the love of his life and they weren't perfect for each other if they were she wouldn't have slept with mark and stayed with him after derek caught them and got knocked up song or no song they weren't right for eachother he deserved better
You spent less than an Hour with Her ... YES! How does she dare to Say she is right and addy wasnt ADDISON WAS HIS FAMILY AND DEREKS SISTERS ARE HERS TOO screw mcmama #teamADDEK all the way !!! HE loved Addison ! And back in the Days she was the right one for him for a Long Time
You do realize she cheated on him, right? How do people just look past that? They were married for a long time, it’s not right that she gets to fuck someone else and still consider him family. I don’t know why he gave her a second chance, I would have divorced her ass right after finding her with Mark. Because that was not a drunken mistake, she clearly thought about it for a while and made a conscious decision to sleep with him and stay with him for months after. If your significant other went and fucked someone else, would you forgive them and stay with them without resentment? Would your family forgive them for hurting you?
I respect that you love Addek, you’re entitled to your opinion. However, there is a lot of onscreen dialogue and events that supports McMama’s claim. When Meredith asked Addison why she married Derek she said “I knew he would never hurt me.” Thats safety, not love. When Derek talked about marrying Addison he said “it was the next logical step.” Thats conformity, not love. They were great friends and family in a sense, but neither one was happy in their marriage, which is what lead to his using work to avoid her and her turning to Mark. Also, Addison and Mark didn’t just have an affair. She stayed in New York and moved in with him. She only went after Derek and tried to rekindle their marriage after she found Mark with another woman.
I always loved the bit where McMama mentions that Derek sees things in black and white, but that Meredith doesn't. Then later in season 7, when Derek finds out Meredith messed with the Alzheimer's trial, he tells her that he doesn't understand that she can't tell the difference between right and wrong, to which she says "I don't think things are always just right or wrong". Great foreshadow! :)
JNike but they aren’t
@JNike nop
JNike false
Ok but it's not like he does either. He's not straight and narrow. He was married left his wife in new york, met Meredith in a bar, and slept with her and ended up falling in love with her. He slept with Meredith while at the prom with his wife. Therefore he don't see black and white either.
The man had a wife and a girlfriend how the hell he always just see right and wrong. He dated an intern
I love Meredith’s monologue here, it’s so genuine and it’s dramatic but delivered so low key…I’m dark and cloudy. Ellen Pompeo nails this.
how you the momma of 5 surgeons. whatever her formula is in being a parent I want it cuz that's awesome.
not 5 surgeons. 5 doctors.
Still
Well she’s a nurse and their dad was a doctor so ...
and Sloan too.
and expensive 😂😂😂
This is the only time Derek mom and Meredith have had any interaction. 16 seasons later and Mcmama hasn't come to visit Meredith and the kids yet since Derek died. Maybe seeing them will bring up feelings and emotions.
Aimee Hall
Dereks mum is only good when it comes to Derek ,because hes her favorite child ,but how she treats Amelia and didn't even got to her wedding ,I hate her for that ,amelia deserves the same as Derek ..
She apologized recently to amelia
@@chanaberlove8720 yeah ,I wrote this comment before that 😂
Boys always have a special place in their mother's heart, just like girls have a special place in their dad's heart. And Derek _was_ her only son so I'm not surprised she treated him better than his sisters.
@@brett8460 Yeah and the fact that he's the only boy she has also plays (apart from Mark who she kind of adopted)
Aimee Hall
2:56 Wait! She knew Addison wasn't right from the beginning? Damn! Now that's good mother's intuition.
I feel like Meredith is going to become like Carolyn when she’s older. She’ll know exactly what her kids are going through and she’ll most likely take in strays like Mark. Maybe she’ll give Bailey the ring Derek gave her for the girl he falls in love with when that time comes. ❤️
Elyssa Chandle merideth has always already took in strays and tried to help everybody she’s not selfish and she very forgiving ,
Aimee Hall
I am not sure, if Derek found the ring after he hit it with the baseball bat. He didn't proposed with a ring.
@@ObviouslyBlonde he did found it… in 5x19 when he came home he had the ring in the little box and then in the next episode you can see Meredith is holding it
Who’s Carolyn? And Meredith has been taking in strays since she was an intern
I wanna find that person who appreciates being myself more than always being a little ray of sunshine. Just like Meredith, I'm not always chatty, and I don't wear a constant smile on my face. I'm kind of a melancholic person, and that doesn't mean I'm depressed or anything, I simply just feel my true feelings, and don't force myself to be happy when I'm not.
But sadly it seems like no one likes that attitude, everybody wants a person who's always optimistic, and sees everything bright.
There are plenty of people that would appreciate that, you're a real one in a world of fake. Not to say everyone who is chirpy and happy is fake, it's just common that's all and to be chirpy all the time...that isn't realistic. You'll find someone who appreciates your personality, even on the hard days.
+eighteensixtyfour19 Thanks. I hope so.
that's me. Everyone thinks I'm depressed
Oh trust me you BETTER that way, I’m a very socially awkward person and very anxious when I’m the center of attention and basically around people who don’t even know me, but whenever people speak to me or even look at me (including my family sometimes) I make myself so happy and bubbly even tho most times I’m totally falling apart and I don’t cry in front of people unless it’s my bests friend.. honestly you really rather be yourself and not fake it like I make my self.
You know what that's the best thing ever being true to your feelings.
I love when mrs Shepard asks Meredith about her parents and she is like dead dark and twisty mer
Anyone else not like Izzie's reaction? I understand her pov some but that shaking of the head made me mad.
a true friend doesn't ask her friend to be someone she is not. christina is mer true friend izzie is not.
She’s helping mer, mer would do the same thing to her
Izzie is just bringing comedy
Aksangel _ yea but izzie doesn’t know mer like Cristina... Cristina would tell mer to be herself and not act like someone she’s not...
I agree. I liked Izzie at the start of the episode, helping Meredith appear bright and shiny, because Meredith wanted Izzie to help her do that; so Izzie was being a good friend. But in the end Meredith chose to be honest, and while Izzie is allowed to feel a little irritated that she tried helping Meredith for nothing, that look of disappointment and shake of the head at Meredith being honest was uncalled for.
Dereck’s Mom-should return and see the kids
Aimee Hall
@@aimeehall2461 shut up 😡🤬
The scene with a Derek and his mom 😩😭❤️
Addy wasn't right clearly, in another words, the Shepherd family didnt attend nor approved of the union btw Derek and Addison. YIKES! 😎
Only her mother. Derek's sisters were fine with Addison
Aimee Hall
Aimee Hall
His sisters lived addie, Nancy and Addie were very close friend and Addie was a better big sister to Amy than her own real sisters were, Mcmoma like Addie and supported Derek’s decision long as she treated Derek good but she didn’t really think she was right for Derek . And she was right
you know here I like Mcmama but when Amilia and Owen were getting married then- oh then I hated her with all my breaking heart while Amy was crying on the phone saying- please mama I'm getting married .... Wish we could see more of her during the series.
M. Angelova it’s a sad thing but the whole family hates Amy because they don’t understand her but I do hope they will deal with Amy’s family issue it would be nice for them to give her the chance to deal with it all and tell them how she feels
YESSSS
Surgeon 101 it’s not that they don’t understand her it’s just that they don’t like her..
Aimee Hall
@M.Angelova,Amelia's mom apologized and admitted that the reason she was like the way she was to Amelia was because she always reminded her of her father and that Amelia was so independent.
They should bring Der's mom back into season 11 =)
Zombie Derek
yamina breezy LMAO this is just sad man
Yams Breezy not going to happen.
Lord Ignis Destroyer of Thots- Zerek
And yet Mer became the mother of McMama’s grand-babies 🥰🥰
And yet because the mother of Mc mama grand babies 🥰🥰
When Grey's was good ...
The good old cast and stories!
I love Derek's mother 😍♥️💛♥️💯 such a kind gentle loving person 💯💯💯
DemonThunder Wolf o
I love his mom already.❤😎
Her killer instinct was right..
I didnt understand her approval on Meredith then. Now I do.
Derek sees in things in black and white, right and wrong. Meredith, she doesnt. She see things in Grey; Therefore Derek is gonna need some handful spoons of it from Meredith.😁❤
Derek's dad died when whe was little which means his mother raised 5 children and she did a great job because their all amazing doctors and she even raised Mark a little bit😅❤
Thanks for all the thumbs ups
Aimee Hall
nope derek was the favourite child his mother was never there for amelia and and amelia and her family were not close because she never told them about her fionce her baby
She was a nurse. She has seen thing’s.
If raising a doctor is the measure of how good a parent you are then Ellis Grey was a wonderful mother too. I don't think what your kid does for a living is the best test for how good a parent you are. Derek's mom did seem better than Meredith's but she had her weaknesses and blind spots too.
Derek's mother was played by actress, Tyne Daly. Her younger brother is Tim Daly, who played Pete on Private Practice.
Even Derek's uncle has slept with Addison. 😂
Also, Amy Brenneman played Violet on Private Practice, she and Tyne were mother-daughter on the legal drama Judging Amy. I just love all these connections.
They have mentioned that they use these connections in casting...
I hate izzie in that last scene so much when Meredith confessed her true self to Derek’s mother and she shook her head disappointed in Mer. She should support her in being herself and not lying and being a fraud of who she is, if I were mer I would feel sad that my friend wanted me to be someone I’m not.
Meredith wasn’t really cold like Cristina,the first seasons she was sweet she had her issues with her family but she always acted like a positive person with Izzie,George,Alex and Cristina so I don’t think Izzie wanted so much to change her I think she wanted her to be more open with strange people like she was with her friends
@@hannacal8347 Yeah I totally see that now and I can find the first meeting funny where Izzie reminds her to smile and all that, that part I get because I probably would've done the same thing if my best friend is meeting her boyfriend's mother for the first time. But the part I don't like is when Derek's mother walks away and izzie shakes her head in disappointment as if shaming her and not respecting mer's decision to be herself. I get what you mean but just in this last scene if it were me I'd go make my friend feel better and comfort her instead of making her feel worse than what she's probably already feeling.
Now McMamma is no where to be found in the series!!
0:50 Derek looks scared and confused, like "What's wrong with your face? Are you okay?"
I love Tyne Daly. Watched every series she as been on. 📺💖
Just imagine Derek's mother and Meredith's mother come together. OH BOY! It wont be very pretty union btw the mothers.
Aimee Hall
Ellis Shepherd is dead
I’d like to see that showdown
I felt like everyone was so rude to Derek’s mom
that ponytail is gonna blow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love her😢she knew all along. But how can this be the same mom who didn’t come to Amelia’s wedding!?! Glad they reconciled now, but they definitely need to bring her on the show again, they could use a dose of her and let her meet all the grand babies 😢😢
I guess I can kind of see it. She's a powerhouse, practical and strong, and she might find it hard to understand what looks like flakiness or someone as emotional as Amelia. They are very different.
Amelia and he r im had that conversation, it’s in the details. Pretty much Amelia is so much like her father, and it’s hard for her mom to handle, which is why she has always kept Amelia at a distance and blamed the addiction and her behavior on why
Derek’s mother said she gave birth to 5 doctors; but we only ever knew Derek and Amelia as actual doctors. I thought the other 3 held just regular white collar jobs
Maurisa Thanks for info. Which episode did you learn all these?
Maurisa thanks
Maurisa liv is a psychologist.. not a counselor she holds an md I’m pretty sure
@@chineyy141 we learned about Amelia in Season 7 of Greys Anatomy and kathleen in season 15...
@@chineyy141 4 sisters, not 5
nobody's gonna talk about the resemblance? McDreamy looks so much like McMama
I totally remember her saying, "you could use some grey in your life" ... or am I getting crazy the older I get?
At least Mer was honest.
I Love Tyne Daly! Loved her in Judging Amy and I love her here! She is great!
The first half of this scene/episode is always so hard to watch. I don’t know why, it just is.
My patients who’s a serial killer...who’s here...not killing people so that’s good!
I don’t think Derek’s mum necessarily hated Addison…she probably supported the Union but may have felt there was something missing…when she met Meredith she realised she was right and therefore gave him the ring to give to her…had Derek and Addison had kids, she could’ve made just a big a gesture by gifting it to her grandchild …
mc dreamy and mc steamy both dead
she lost both her sons
That’s mcsad
Kelia Lmaooo
Í miss you Derek ❤
my phone corrected McMama to McNamara. lol
Love his mother
go mama mcdreamy! she knows what shes talking about!
Addie wasn't right clearly............. go McMamma
Mcdreamy Mcsteamy Mcmama Mcbaby Mccutie (Zola)
I loved her on Cagney and Lacey
Lol Meredith “mhm dead 😀”
Vidyas comments : Derek's mom looking at Meredith as if she is a ghost. She is not very happy to see Meredith. She will not be too happy when her son would be dating an intern.
This episode is awseme
And your father?
Meredith :
i was so sorry for izzie in this episode
Why havent they brought back mama shepherd?
Elizabeth Liu right?!? I wanna see her in season 15
@@atheris1641 she came back in s15 for amelia's episode :)
They did for one episode.
wow... very...high...ponytail
I live Tyne Daley she was so good on Cagney and Lacey
Lol Meredith sees things in GREY XD
we need Mcbaby
I miss Izzie
Mc dreamy Mc steamy Mc mama ;D
5 Doctor's, my mum's praying for just 1 and out of her 5 kids, she has 1 chance left to get that, and it ain't me
She wasn't wrong for telling his mom the truth about herself. It was wrong to try to pretend to be someone she wasn't.
The thing with Izzie at the end has always bugged me. I mean can you blame her for being tired of pretending she was something that she wasn't
mer is perfect
0:38 lol, Why you running?
Mcmama was right
おかあさんは、本当に素晴らしいくて人を観る目があり素晴らしいおかあさんだと想います。この様な姑がいたら良いですね😃😊
taht ponttail😂
McMama? Lmaoooo
Nome da música?
What happened to derek's dad?
There was a robbery he was trying to defend the store and got shot
Why wasn't she in more episodes? I forgot he even had a Mom.
1 second to late
Aimee Hall
pffff he was merried for 11 years and back then in deed he thought that addison was the love of his life - how the fucking hell can she dare to say she wasnt right for him !!! at the time SHE WAS! #teamaddek!
Team Addek it wasn't that he didn't love addie they both probably loved each other but you could love someone more than anything and not be right for each other
i just hate that everybody pretends that addison wasnt the love of his life and they talk like he never really loved her he wrote a song for her "and in her eyes i saw my life, i knew that she would be my wife and she would breath the life back into me, from every day until eternity, until id be as dead as that body. " it breaks my heart. it think they were perfect for each other. dont get why his mom not even knows meredith and already gave him this ring it did hurt addison when she found out about this. she was his first!
Yeah okay.....
Team Addek Addison wasn't the love of his life and they weren't perfect for each other if they were she wouldn't have slept with mark and stayed with him after derek caught them and got knocked up song or no song they weren't right for eachother he deserved better
Team Add
We don’t Stan her 💀✨
You spent less than an Hour with Her ... YES! How does she dare to Say she is right and addy wasnt ADDISON WAS HIS FAMILY AND DEREKS SISTERS ARE HERS TOO screw mcmama #teamADDEK all the way !!! HE loved Addison ! And back in the Days she was the right one for him for a Long Time
'-'
is you on crack?
You do realize she cheated on him, right? How do people just look past that? They were married for a long time, it’s not right that she gets to fuck someone else and still consider him family. I don’t know why he gave her a second chance, I would have divorced her ass right after finding her with Mark. Because that was not a drunken mistake, she clearly thought about it for a while and made a conscious decision to sleep with him and stay with him for months after. If your significant other went and fucked someone else, would you forgive them and stay with them without resentment? Would your family forgive them for hurting you?
I respect that you love Addek, you’re entitled to your opinion. However, there is a lot of onscreen dialogue and events that supports McMama’s claim. When Meredith asked Addison why she married Derek she said “I knew he would never hurt me.” Thats safety, not love. When Derek talked about marrying Addison he said “it was the next logical step.” Thats conformity, not love. They were great friends and family in a sense, but neither one was happy in their marriage, which is what lead to his using work to avoid her and her turning to Mark. Also, Addison and Mark didn’t just have an affair. She stayed in New York and moved in with him. She only went after Derek and tried to rekindle their marriage after she found Mark with another woman.
Wsxsx. Ff. Varvatos still f