lol i also forgot the clip on my small 168 diff when it was all assembled =D wasnt as easy to get in though... Another thing to check is that the small belleville washers which support the gear that the drive-flanges go in have enough space and are not binding.
Pakko kyllä kehua, että jätkä se osaa tehä hyviä ja mielenkiintosia videoita. Ite en niinkään bemarista oo välittäny ikinä mutta kyllä näitä on mukava katella!
Kiitoksia! Tuleehan tuota itekkin katsottua paljon muun merkkisten videoita jos vaan ovat hyvin tehty ja kiinnostavia. Eikä mitään umpitylsiä vlogeja vaan :D
When i made my diff my mechanic removed the conical disks one from up and one down and fitted the 4 directly. Works perfect for 3 years now. I added a limited slip product used in offroad diffs(not mentioned by my mechanic just by myself) and the first 100 miles it drove like a welded and the worked perfect after i broke the new disks in
Yeah after that modification it will LSD without preload. Which is fine for most use. It doesn't work in very slippery conditions, because it needs to have some traction on both tires.
@@pazi88 Hello pazzi did you still have the very cheap LSD that works on springs?? I think you mentioned that it stopped locking after a while. I think that the springs kinda relax after some time and lose tension. So I wanted to suggest you put some shims under each spring and then reinstall. if you want 100% lock I would try any shim preferably thick one but if you want to tune a certain percentage of lock you have to do your testing. but anyway I believe that any random shims will make it work again.
@@FirstLast-tx3yj It's based on springs and also same kind of rotating action as drives normal clutch type lsd's. The springs are fine. It's just that the friction discs did wear out to metal... That might not happen during summer, but I had this in my winter beater and during winter the LSD is needed constantly.
Hi i have just watch this video and check my lsd. I have 3.15 188 lsd with 3 clutch upgrade by removing the 4mm washer. I measured the space left with both concave rings removed = 17mm. The 2 concave washers = 5mm and cap = 14.2mm. So 17-19.2 = -2.2mm. The parts don't fit. Do you have any idea why this would be?
Hi! I did measure mine with 3 clutch upgrade. 14.7mm on the cap, 4mm the 2 concave washers and 19.14mm of space. So 0.44mm of clearance, which is really good. The 17mm space seems a bit little. But if that is the case, you need to machine down the cap like 2.5mm
Hi. You said you would let us know if this more aggresive diff would "give more traction and better handling" .. What is your opinion regarding this ? (very interested, as I'm looking to do a diff upgrade as well..)
Yeah I kinda forget to mention about the diff in latest videos. I may need to do separate video about that. But for drag racing and drifting the aggressive diff has made the car lot better. Maybe not like more traction, but the cars behavior is always constant and lot more predictable. When leaving the line in drag racing, the car doesn't wander anymore and goes like it's on tracks. Also on drifting it doesn't anymore wander everywhere but acts constantly same way which makes drifting easier. But then for time attack for example the diff is way too aggressive. At least for the tire setup I have. The outer tire want's to start slipping even from the smallest amount off throttle during cornering. Which forces to drive slower or the car is in constant slide all the time when cornering. Which heats up and eats the tires really quick. And also isn't the fastest way to go.
@@pazi88 Well sh*t, I was looking at a 65% lock, 3 clutch pack solution for track use.. Guess I'll need to rethink this after reading your experience. You drive on semi slicks right ?
Always great content wish you the best!! According to your experience how does 10:1 compression turbo FEEL vs 8.5:1 compression? Its a daily driver and i dont have the chance to try both i can only choose one.
Well it's huge difference :D The 10:1 feels as lively as any NA engine off boost, and of course much faster on boost. Not like 8:1 cr engines that feel like dead fish when off boost.
Hey Pazi, you are sadly not the only one having trouble with racing diff "high precise standards with tolerances of +-0.02mm." I rebuilt 3 of the 188mm, some in 4 pair and one with 3 pairs, cap was machined by my own, but the disk stack for friction + dog ear was 16.8mm instead of 16 flat. As you can guess these 0.8mm in the diff makes a whole world of difference. The conical washer they sell also are absolutely not matching the original ones. they were 5.5mm tall 2.5 thick istead of 4 tall 2.5 thick. once again you end up with about 250Nm of preload wich is ridiculous. To sum up, if you have the choice, run away from racing diffs parts.
Well I have already tried quite many aftermarket lsd parts and so far racing diffs stuff has been way better than other stuff. And it's good that they even make all the spare parts for these lsd units, because for some time ago, you couldn't get that stuff anywhere. And about those spring washers or what those are really called even, the racing diffs site says that they are stiffer than stock, so I would assume that those are thicker too. I would just hope that they don't claim that the 4clutch sets fit without modifications, because clearly they don't.
@@pazi88 I never delt with other brands. That must have been terrible with others haha. They clain thr stiffness from the material, I clearly asked them and the answer was same size as factory.
lol i also forgot the clip on my small 168 diff when it was all assembled =D wasnt as easy to get in though...
Another thing to check is that the small belleville washers which support the gear that the drive-flanges go in have enough space and are not binding.
Awesome as always! Your videos are well put together and very technical 👏 ❤❤
Kiitoksia mielenkiintoisesta videosta..
Pakko kyllä kehua, että jätkä se osaa tehä hyviä ja mielenkiintosia videoita. Ite en niinkään bemarista oo välittäny ikinä mutta kyllä näitä on mukava katella!
Kiitoksia! Tuleehan tuota itekkin katsottua paljon muun merkkisten videoita jos vaan ovat hyvin tehty ja kiinnostavia. Eikä mitään umpitylsiä vlogeja vaan :D
When i made my diff my mechanic removed the conical disks one from up and one down and fitted the 4 directly. Works perfect for 3 years now. I added a limited slip product used in offroad diffs(not mentioned by my mechanic just by myself) and the first 100 miles it drove like a welded and the worked perfect after i broke the new disks in
Yeah after that modification it will LSD without preload. Which is fine for most use. It doesn't work in very slippery conditions, because it needs to have some traction on both tires.
@@pazi88 Hello pazzi did you still have the very cheap LSD that works on springs?? I think you mentioned that it stopped locking after a while.
I think that the springs kinda relax after some time and lose tension. So I wanted to suggest you put some shims under each spring and then reinstall.
if you want 100% lock I would try any shim preferably thick one but if you want to tune a certain percentage of lock you have to do your testing.
but anyway I believe that any random shims will make it work again.
@@FirstLast-tx3yj It's based on springs and also same kind of rotating action as drives normal clutch type lsd's. The springs are fine. It's just that the friction discs did wear out to metal... That might not happen during summer, but I had this in my winter beater and during winter the LSD is needed constantly.
Hi i have just watch this video and check my lsd. I have 3.15 188 lsd with 3 clutch upgrade by removing the 4mm washer. I measured the space left with both concave rings removed = 17mm. The 2 concave washers = 5mm and cap = 14.2mm. So 17-19.2 = -2.2mm. The parts don't fit. Do you have any idea why this would be?
Hi! I did measure mine with 3 clutch upgrade. 14.7mm on the cap, 4mm the 2 concave washers and 19.14mm of space. So 0.44mm of clearance, which is really good. The 17mm space seems a bit little. But if that is the case, you need to machine down the cap like 2.5mm
Hi.
You said you would let us know if this more aggresive diff would "give more traction and better handling" ..
What is your opinion regarding this ?
(very interested, as I'm looking to do a diff upgrade as well..)
Yeah I kinda forget to mention about the diff in latest videos. I may need to do separate video about that. But for drag racing and drifting the aggressive diff has made the car lot better. Maybe not like more traction, but the cars behavior is always constant and lot more predictable. When leaving the line in drag racing, the car doesn't wander anymore and goes like it's on tracks. Also on drifting it doesn't anymore wander everywhere but acts constantly same way which makes drifting easier. But then for time attack for example the diff is way too aggressive. At least for the tire setup I have. The outer tire want's to start slipping even from the smallest amount off throttle during cornering. Which forces to drive slower or the car is in constant slide all the time when cornering. Which heats up and eats the tires really quick. And also isn't the fastest way to go.
@@pazi88 Well sh*t, I was looking at a 65% lock, 3 clutch pack solution for track use.. Guess I'll need to rethink this after reading your experience. You drive on semi slicks right ?
@@jeroenm5280 Yeah. I would just just refurbish the stock diff with new clutches and dog plates for that use.
@@pazi88 Thanks man! again!
Always great content wish you the best!!
According to your experience how does 10:1 compression turbo FEEL vs 8.5:1 compression? Its a daily driver and i dont have the chance to try both i can only choose one.
Well it's huge difference :D The 10:1 feels as lively as any NA engine off boost, and of course much faster on boost. Not like 8:1 cr engines that feel like dead fish when off boost.
Hey Pazi, you are sadly not the only one having trouble with racing diff "high precise standards with tolerances of +-0.02mm."
I rebuilt 3 of the 188mm, some in 4 pair and one with 3 pairs, cap was machined by my own, but the disk stack for friction + dog ear was 16.8mm instead of 16 flat. As you can guess these 0.8mm in the diff makes a whole world of difference. The conical washer they sell also are absolutely not matching the original ones. they were 5.5mm tall 2.5 thick istead of 4 tall 2.5 thick. once again you end up with about 250Nm of preload wich is ridiculous.
To sum up, if you have the choice, run away from racing diffs parts.
Well I have already tried quite many aftermarket lsd parts and so far racing diffs stuff has been way better than other stuff. And it's good that they even make all the spare parts for these lsd units, because for some time ago, you couldn't get that stuff anywhere. And about those spring washers or what those are really called even, the racing diffs site says that they are stiffer than stock, so I would assume that those are thicker too. I would just hope that they don't claim that the 4clutch sets fit without modifications, because clearly they don't.
@@pazi88 I never delt with other brands. That must have been terrible with others haha.
They clain thr stiffness from the material, I clearly asked them and the answer was same size as factory.
@@pazi88 Are those friction plates and dog plates not available at BMW or spare part shops?
@@JuhaEerikki Not from bmw. There is few aftermarket manufacturers like racing diffs.
@@pazi88 ok thank you for reply 👍
I'm curious, that will it have any noises later (some whistle) or not.
So far it has been totally silent. After fixing that too tight lsd issue :D
@@pazi88 Than it was a nice work! Rebuilding a rear diff correctly is not the easiest part of the servicing a car, however this was a half-rebuild.
@@Gyikhuszar88 *Then
what ryobi drill do you use?
That was not a drill, but impact wrench. It's model R18IW3-0
Jätä musat pois, parempi ihan taustahölötyskin.
Diff time 😆👍
talvihuoltoa kesäkuussa :D
Saattaa olla että jokunen kuukausi menny että oon kerenny editoimaan tämän videon :D
Minkälainen auto se diffi tule?
For the e30
Laittaisit öljynjäähdyttimen.
Should of put the clutch friction disc in oil for a couple of days .no good putting them in dry .lol
mr323i he oiled it
@@becomematrix did you watch the footage. Guess not troll .he didn't do that . Stfu
@@becomematrix troll account stfu
mr323i 13:24 relax a bit will you?
Should *HAVE, not "of"...
Space goes after period, not before...
Intro 5/5
100km and your racing shit diff plates will die...