Olexa if I had a video game for every roguelike you introduced me to that featured a deceased main character in a purgatory, where halfway through the game you fight a fakeout final boss version of yourself, only for a few runs later you find out that it isn't actually the true final boss, and the actual final boss is more of a representation of what's keeping them still there, I'd have Revita and Brutal Orchestra. I wouldn't have The Binding of Isaac because I knew about it before finding your channel but I think it fits this description too. and honestly they're all bangers
I finally saw some of the dude's paintings the creatures of the game are based on, and yep, it's pretty much insanity I loved seeing that the knife ear is very much accurate.
@@nerfprate The name of the artist is literally in the game's title haha. It's even mentioned in Hard Mode's entrance, by the skeleton : Hieronymus Botch. I don't blame you for not knowing it, I didn't myself- And the painting is "The Garden of Earthly Delights" : a 3-in-1 painting
@@GalactaKiller Actually quite a lot of Bosch's work is featured in the game including the triptych of the Temptation of Saint Anthony. If you're up for it you could have fun looking through Bosch's paintings and you might notice some familiar objects. Not shop items though, those are based on WWII memorabilia.
What an ending. Wow. So, putting all the pieces together: Nowak is probably his name. He was a painter. Based on “Bosch’s” statements at the beginning, he succeeded in mortally wounding himself by cracking his skull open somehow. Probably jumping off something. But that’s why he tells you that some one killed you and it ends up being yourself in real life. My guess is that Nowak is the outer person and “Bosch” is the inner. “Bosch” sounds like he hates himself and wants to hurry up and end things. Nowak wants to find something that he doesn’t know exists still. I guess the painter, in his dying moments, invented a whole imaginary world full of crazy things mostly based on the real Bosch’s art. And, from that experience, found the inspiration to paint something in his own blood- something he was proud of AND something that was only for him to see. He’s possibility dissatisfied with how others viewed his art while alive, and he was pushed to this limit because of the response from others toward his art. He was probably always struggling to make something that others viewed as masterful and beautiful, and this is the first time he ever painted something just for himself to admire. What a freaky story. I love it.
Your analysis looks on point! But there is one thing that I want to point out: I do not think Nowak was a painter, in the entrance cut scene to hard mode where Nowak talks to the skeleton by the fire he mentioned cutting fish with his father and hating it- I think that was his job in real life, a labor worker that cuts fish. Since he mentioned that he hate cutting fish, I speculate that painting is his hobby/passion that keeps him going, and Bosch, the painter, is his inspiration and someone he admire. It is likely that he found his life as a labor worker to be unfufilling and that his art is imperfect abd ultimately meaningless since he is not a professional and no one really gets to see his art, which is why Bosch, the demon that represents inner self, wants trick Nowak into ending it all. I think the whole game is a representation of Nowak's inner struggle of finding meaning in his life and coming to terms with the fact that his art doesn't need to be perfect to have meaning, it just needed to be real to him, even at the last moments of his life, since his skull is literally split open.
I find that there's an amusing similarity between Nowak/Bosch and the creator of the game herself, as they both made these elaborate worlds inspired by Bosch's work
@@bettyjackson5287 That’s true. I have just replayed the game recently myself after writing this (Olexa’s series got me to buy it) and it definitely is a little hazy because he says he doesn’t clearly remember BUT He does say he would cut fish open with his dad for a living and he hated it. Could be that he was a struggling painter with a day job that he despised, and he may have tried to sell his art as a job instead but nobody cared about what he would create. I also have no specific idea of what all of these guys represent. Nowak seems to be a representation of the body. Bosch seems to be a representation of his mind? And Osman is a strange one. Got him as my first hardmode boss, and he seems to represent something primal inside of Nowak. That desire to keep going? Or maybe the desire to die? I’m not really sure. It’s hard to figure out all their motivations because like… Bosch starts off wanting them to just die, Nowak doesn’t realize he’s even killing himself at first. Then they both say that they have a life to live and it’s not over which seems to be their goal but then Osman comes in and tries to stop them… but, by stopping them, he’s sending them back to the beginning of the loop to continue wandering forever. But he also is the person who forces the characters to realize that they aren’t real which instantly kills them during the fight against him. And Nowak and Bosch’s end goal seems to be to find the inspiration to paint something for himself one final time based on the ending, or maybe it WAS to die and find peace. Maybe they don’t have a real goal other than escaping the mental world they created in their dying moments one way or another. But I say it’s hard to figure out that last part because their motives, goals, actions, words, and outcomes don’t really match up. By losing in the game they’re living forever. By winning the game, they die. Osman seems like the primal instinct that refuses to die which is why he says they will reject everything, but also like… he forces you to come to terms with the fact that it’s all fake? Nowak and Bosch say that their “lives aren’t over” but killing Osman ends them? That parts all a bit hazy LOL
I won't give anything away, but I very much recommend giving Bronzo money. He's one of the most entertaining NPCs in the game, for reasons which will become apparent later down the line.
Hey Olexa, I am commenting WHEN the thing is happening so dont take this badly if you figure it out later. The eye relic you got stopped the parental enemies from reacting (I am also new to the game and this relic seems hella broken)
Incredible run! Near perfect! I am loving the shorter episodes by the way. It helps pace out these long runs that brutal orchestra seems to lend it self to
I'm in the middle of watching... and it pained me when you sacrificed Flowy instead of Clive. Clive's abilities are good, but his item was stealing all your pigment each turn. I hope you pull this out... Edit: Nice finish, well done.
Jolly good show sir olexa. Learned two things I didn't know from this episode... You can pull yellow pigment down to keep for next turn and I never noticed heaven was three spaces wide.
Osman Sinnoks, your ontological self, has an instant kill that he uses every turn, but it's not nearly as savage as the one used by the constant known as "Heaven". Heaven will punish you for evading its attacks.
I've always just seen the homunculi's left or right attacks and just followed the direction of the arrow on the timeline. Like "oh left arrow ok everyone to the left"
no offense to Olexa but as someone who knows the game in and out, and maybe everyone saw it too, but the horror show that was the first 20 minutes was hilarious to watch unfold, and the following minutes when he got good at the enemies were just as fun, great video as always
Against the ears just bring in Nowak and no one else because the ears do self damage. All you have to do is make sure Nowak doesn’t get hit and end turn. The ears will kill themselves.
Wow you really didn't deserve that win lol Me: Oh that boss is terrible, he does so much damage & can just 1-shot a party member, but wait Shield bro can tank his damage & reroll the 1-shot... 30 seconds later... Why is shield bro dead? Well, still fine. Won't always be able to attack, just makes the fight a little longer. Not a big deal. Flowerbro is upgraded, and can out heal anything this boss can throw. Other than the 1-shot... why is Flowerbro dead? Ok, welp, maybe Olexa has learned to read now that he set fire to his 100% surefire win... and Wormbro is dead. To say I had zero faith is to undersell it.
Sorry if i'm rude but man do you talk slow, every time i watch a new video i have to put the speed to 1,75 lmao. Apart from that pretty enjoyable video, keep it up man!
Heya I know this video is kinda old but you got me into brutal orchestra and i have no clue how to fight heaven everytime i get to the end its the other final Boss can i have some advice please ? :3
Correct me if i am wrong but... killing fennec first when he is the one that can reroll the one touch kill of the boss was a bad idea wasnt it? If he had rerolled it everytime it was possible to do this fight with 5 people and no deaths... what would have been kinda crazy
I like to think of myself as a pretty smart person. I've played a bunch of tactical RPGs and card games and roguelikes. But, between the pigments, status effects, timeline, enemy attributes, and the punishing difficulty, trying to process all of this just hurts my head. I would rather play Darkest Dungeon or spend hours grinding on Seventh Saga than to subject myself to this digital sadomasochism.
> enemy has 27 health
> "fifteen...plus twelve damage...that's not enough to kill you"
> tyler takes 30% self-damage by choice to overkill instead
This series is starting to impact my productivity. I see a new episode and whatever I'm doing goes out the window 😂
Same lmao
I feel that
Facts
That might be the case if I was doing anything productive to begin with. 😅
"Short of bell boy being horrible I actually like our chances here"
Oh you sweet summer child
26:05 I literally never thought about moving pigment from the generator to the bar, that’s crazy
wow i never thought to do that either, would have helped in a couple yellow orb hungry runs haha
I LITERALLY POINTED AND SCREAMED WHEN HE DID THAT??
I legitimately had no clue that was a thing.
I learned about this within 10 minutes of playing lol bruh
I have 59 hours and I just discovered this from your comment 😭
Olexa if I had a video game for every roguelike you introduced me to that featured a deceased main character in a purgatory, where halfway through the game you fight a fakeout final boss version of yourself, only for a few runs later you find out that it isn't actually the true final boss, and the actual final boss is more of a representation of what's keeping them still there, I'd have Revita and Brutal Orchestra. I wouldn't have The Binding of Isaac because I knew about it before finding your channel but I think it fits this description too.
and honestly they're all bangers
Tyler running the rank one hans in area 3 is exactly what I’m here for
« I can’t make that my reason to upgrade Hans »
And yet he did 1 fight after XD
I finally saw some of the dude's paintings the creatures of the game are based on, and yep, it's pretty much insanity
I loved seeing that the knife ear is very much accurate.
Actually, a lot of things in this game is pretty much accurate to that painting !
Who's the artist/ what paintings?
@@nerfprate Hieronymus Bosch
@@nerfprate The name of the artist is literally in the game's title haha. It's even mentioned in Hard Mode's entrance, by the skeleton : Hieronymus Botch. I don't blame you for not knowing it, I didn't myself-
And the painting is "The Garden of Earthly Delights" : a 3-in-1 painting
@@GalactaKiller Actually quite a lot of Bosch's work is featured in the game including the triptych of the Temptation of Saint Anthony.
If you're up for it you could have fun looking through Bosch's paintings and you might notice some familiar objects.
Not shop items though, those are based on WWII memorabilia.
What an ending. Wow.
So, putting all the pieces together:
Nowak is probably his name. He was a painter. Based on “Bosch’s” statements at the beginning, he succeeded in mortally wounding himself by cracking his skull open somehow. Probably jumping off something. But that’s why he tells you that some one killed you and it ends up being yourself in real life.
My guess is that Nowak is the outer person and “Bosch” is the inner.
“Bosch” sounds like he hates himself and wants to hurry up and end things. Nowak wants to find something that he doesn’t know exists still.
I guess the painter, in his dying moments, invented a whole imaginary world full of crazy things mostly based on the real Bosch’s art.
And, from that experience, found the inspiration to paint something in his own blood- something he was proud of AND something that was only for him to see.
He’s possibility dissatisfied with how others viewed his art while alive, and he was pushed to this limit because of the response from others toward his art. He was probably always struggling to make something that others viewed as masterful and beautiful, and this is the first time he ever painted something just for himself to admire.
What a freaky story. I love it.
Your analysis looks on point! But there is one thing that I want to point out: I do not think Nowak was a painter, in the entrance cut scene to hard mode where Nowak talks to the skeleton by the fire he mentioned cutting fish with his father and hating it- I think that was his job in real life, a labor worker that cuts fish. Since he mentioned that he hate cutting fish, I speculate that painting is his hobby/passion that keeps him going, and Bosch, the painter, is his inspiration and someone he admire. It is likely that he found his life as a labor worker to be unfufilling and that his art is imperfect abd ultimately meaningless since he is not a professional and no one really gets to see his art, which is why Bosch, the demon that represents inner self, wants trick Nowak into ending it all. I think the whole game is a representation of Nowak's inner struggle of finding meaning in his life and coming to terms with the fact that his art doesn't need to be perfect to have meaning, it just needed to be real to him, even at the last moments of his life, since his skull is literally split open.
I find that there's an amusing similarity between Nowak/Bosch and the creator of the game herself, as they both made these elaborate worlds inspired by Bosch's work
That's actually pretty close to the actual lore. There's a wiki for the game which includes the lore.
@@bettyjackson5287
That’s true. I have just replayed the game recently myself after writing this (Olexa’s series got me to buy it) and it definitely is a little hazy because he says he doesn’t clearly remember BUT
He does say he would cut fish open with his dad for a living and he hated it.
Could be that he was a struggling painter with a day job that he despised, and he may have tried to sell his art as a job instead but nobody cared about what he would create.
I also have no specific idea of what all of these guys represent. Nowak seems to be a representation of the body. Bosch seems to be a representation of his mind?
And Osman is a strange one. Got him as my first hardmode boss, and he seems to represent something primal inside of Nowak. That desire to keep going? Or maybe the desire to die? I’m not really sure.
It’s hard to figure out all their motivations because like… Bosch starts off wanting them to just die, Nowak doesn’t realize he’s even killing himself at first.
Then they both say that they have a life to live and it’s not over which seems to be their goal but then Osman comes in and tries to stop them… but, by stopping them, he’s sending them back to the beginning of the loop to continue wandering forever.
But he also is the person who forces the characters to realize that they aren’t real which instantly kills them during the fight against him.
And Nowak and Bosch’s end goal seems to be to find the inspiration to paint something for himself one final time based on the ending, or maybe it WAS to die and find peace.
Maybe they don’t have a real goal other than escaping the mental world they created in their dying moments one way or another.
But I say it’s hard to figure out that last part because their motives, goals, actions, words, and outcomes don’t really match up.
By losing in the game they’re living forever. By winning the game, they die.
Osman seems like the primal instinct that refuses to die which is why he says they will reject everything, but also like… he forces you to come to terms with the fact that it’s all fake? Nowak and Bosch say that their “lives aren’t over” but killing Osman ends them?
That parts all a bit hazy LOL
@@hctazPerhaps it's as simple as "Osman represents denial, Nowak finds acceptance by confronting him"
I won't give anything away, but I very much recommend giving Bronzo money. He's one of the most entertaining NPCs in the game, for reasons which will become apparent later down the line.
Hey Olexa,
I am commenting WHEN the thing is happening so dont take this badly if you figure it out later.
The eye relic you got stopped the parental enemies from reacting (I am also new to the game and this relic seems hella broken)
It's incredible in some fights but it's mostly useless for others.
Is it still strong? Yeah. But not unbalanced I don't think.
I thought it only prevented a bunch of stats, that shit is op
Yeah and Olexa should've taken it into the Ouroboros fight, because it also blocked Obstructed
holy shit congratulations on your first official W! that fight was extremely tense. Hopefully next run you get to meet my favorite character
I am gonna admit that I did not expect you to win
But you did it! Well done!
The Divine Protection arc was agonizing to me 😮
You just crushed it, Olexa! Loving this series
What a great episode, especially the finale.
Incredible run! Near perfect! I am loving the shorter episodes by the way. It helps pace out these long runs that brutal orchestra seems to lend it self to
12:45 That's literally 27 damage. 15 + 12 = 27
My bowels are in trouble but at least Tyler is here to dull the pain lmao
what
Congrats on the first win! Thoroughly enjoying this series, it's been a blast!
you played so well until you started to not read what heaven was doing
I'm in the middle of watching... and it pained me when you sacrificed Flowy instead of Clive.
Clive's abilities are good, but his item was stealing all your pigment each turn. I hope you pull this out...
Edit: Nice finish, well done.
Clive is badass for that fight. His self heal cleanses all the debuffs.
It didn't really matter, the fight was already so close to ending that he didn't need to heal.
The end felt oddly soothing. I liked it.
im so happy you're making these videos, ive wanted to see people make long-plays of this game for soooo long
very nice playing there. the only HP that matters is the last one
Jolly good show sir olexa. Learned two things I didn't know from this episode... You can pull yellow pigment down to keep for next turn and I never noticed heaven was three spaces wide.
Osman Sinnoks, your ontological self, has an instant kill that he uses every turn, but it's not nearly as savage as the one used by the constant known as "Heaven". Heaven will punish you for evading its attacks.
Just put Clive there, he can heal the status effects.
If Pearl had a back, I’m sure it would hurt From carrying the run so hard
You had me on the "not using fennec attack swap" half, not gonna lie
Well played, Tyler
Wow that was such a good run! Really well played! Congrats on your first win!
you gotta utilize Demetri (the fire guy i beeliieevveee), he is disgusting with the flower
You found Bronzo!
these thumbnails are so good
GGs dude! Heaven can be a slog of a fight sometimes. Gotta love Pearl and her huge chomps. 😄
this game is so tough i can build a crazy run and it immediately goes to die in this zone
I sure hope you beat that boss, cause I got blasted by it every time I found it:(
I've always just seen the homunculi's left or right attacks and just followed the direction of the arrow on the timeline. Like "oh left arrow ok everyone to the left"
That was an experience
clives healing ability is a runsaver in the final fight,
56:56 heh i was waiting 2 weeks for that reaction, what a funny coincidence
no offense to Olexa but as someone who knows the game in and out, and maybe everyone saw it too, but the horror show that was the first 20 minutes was hilarious to watch unfold, and the following minutes when he got good at the enemies were just as fun, great video as always
I guess you needed to look into the glossary
i love you olgenky
I can’t think of a comedic Hydration joke today, just like, take care of yourself everyone.
You did great on the heaven fight, let all naysayers be damned.
You finally got the dub. i am so proud of you
Best series olexa
3rd world bros are so cheap! These episodes are becoming my favorite lol
He's finally done it
Hour long, can’t wait
Flonked
Definitely love this
he moved pigment from the generator to the bar but can you do the opposite as well?
Nope, once putted out you cant put it back into generator
What a run! Rip those we've lose.
Against the ears just bring in Nowak and no one else because the ears do self damage. All you have to do is make sure Nowak doesn’t get hit and end turn. The ears will kill themselves.
Heaven is easier than literally anything else in the garden.
Congrats on the win 🎉🎉🎉
bro fought made in heaven from JoJo's
Oh frick, im 45 minutes late because I was going off in your twitch chat about Kartoffelsuppe.
Edit: also, I now know you will read this. *waves*
Fire is really good against the bell.
Wow you really didn't deserve that win lol
Me: Oh that boss is terrible, he does so much damage & can just 1-shot a party member, but wait Shield bro can tank his damage & reroll the 1-shot...
30 seconds later... Why is shield bro dead?
Well, still fine. Won't always be able to attack, just makes the fight a little longer. Not a big deal. Flowerbro is upgraded, and can out heal anything this boss can throw. Other than the 1-shot... why is Flowerbro dead?
Ok, welp, maybe Olexa has learned to read now that he set fire to his 100% surefire win... and Wormbro is dead.
To say I had zero faith is to undersell it.
I'm proud of you
i feel smart when i watch this vid
Wow I never thought this would happen my guy
No faith smh
@@OlexaYT I believe my guy you have shown me the way
You should give bronzo the coins, there's a chance you get something Avery interesting encounter
dam clive got the god tier
mu on heaven.
Just like the factory
6:31 oh you don't know the half of it :)
It's so sad, all of that journey, just leading to nothing. I bet they somewhat regret doing it.....
Sorry if i'm rude but man do you talk slow, every time i watch a new video i have to put the speed to 1,75 lmao. Apart from that pretty enjoyable video, keep it up man!
Jesus most people tell me I talk too fast so this is a new one
@@OlexaYT cant please everyone right :p, well i can just change the speed so np :v
Heya I know this video is kinda old but you got me into brutal orchestra and i have no clue how to fight heaven everytime i get to the end its the other final Boss can i have some advice please ? :3
Ha it’s just random. So keep playing!
@@OlexaYT damn thanks for the reply man ive been a fan since the afterbirth days have a good one man
Dude, you defeated a god
HYYYYYPE!
Correct me if i am wrong but... killing fennec first when he is the one that can reroll the one touch kill of the boss was a bad idea wasnt it? If he had rerolled it everytime it was possible to do this fight with 5 people and no deaths... what would have been kinda crazy
Ggs no re
😭😭 Clive removed status effects man, I’m 33 mins in. Hope it’s noticed in the fight
He noticed!!!!
olexa GOOD???
What the hec is the story tho
You still don't read the timeline before acting, drives me nuts.
Stilllllll won
I like to think of myself as a pretty smart person. I've played a bunch of tactical RPGs and card games and roguelikes. But, between the pigments, status effects, timeline, enemy attributes, and the punishing difficulty, trying to process all of this just hurts my head. I would rather play Darkest Dungeon or spend hours grinding on Seventh Saga than to subject myself to this digital sadomasochism.
52:30 Finally.