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10:20 an absolute falsehood. Balkan Christians did not want their children to be taken as Janissaries. The abduction of Christian children was always violent... Balkan Christians even cut off the little finger on the hand of their children, so that the Turks would not take those children...
How about you tell us the history of how the Albanians founded the Helenic republic ? You seem like to be one who is not biased ! this is a documentary by the "Greeks" themself ! th-cam.com/video/M99ze151HvA/w-d-xo.html
It is quite sad that Constantinople's name got unnecessarily changed, especially if we consider that the Ottomans officialy kept the name until just a century ago. "Istanbul" is not a bad name, but it has nothing to do against the supreme badassery of "Constantinople"
If I remember correctly, Istanbul was the name locals had for the city and it replaced Constantinople even before Ottoman times. The republic just made it official.
The fact that he doesn't mention the literal genocide of thousands,almost a million of greeks that took place is greatly insulting .You are erasing a whole era of greek history and culture by just only mentioning the armenian genocide (and briefly as well ) . Disappointing
@@mueezadam8438 he accidentally said non muslims ,while the screen mentioned only the Armenian genocide.The biggest factor that lead to majority muslim population in asia minor is mentioned for 2 seconds. Incredible
The Greeks had their fair share of being genocidal to other nations. There are almost no other nations that neighbored the Greeks and did not suffer from their brutality. However, me saying that does not justify what you claim the Ottomans did to you. But as the famous proverb goes, don’t throw stones at others when your house is made of glass.
@@SeekerOfTruth5 so , because the greeks , according to you , where genocidal like the turks ( who committed so many atrocities I can't even count them ) ( and I'm talking only about the "rûm" turks of Anatolia ,not the countless other tribes ) he is justified for not mentioning the genocide of a million greeks?
The Battle of Manzikert paved way for Crusades and the Turkification of Anatolia which laid the seeds of the Ottoman empire which conquered Constantinople ending Rome and triggering the Age of Discovery which shaped much of the modern world,... A battle can only be this impactful
It would be worse if the Turk press the advantage after the battle. The roman backstab politics that make the empire weak when those aristocrats betrayed their emperor at manzikert.
Intermarriage between Turks and Greek, Armenian and Georgian natives of Anatolia was not unheard of, although the majority of these unions were between Turkish men and Christian women. The children of these unions, known as 'Mixovarvaroi', were raised as Turks and were of the Muslim faith (although there were some cases of Mixovarvaroi defecting to the Byzantines). It is likely that these unions played a role in the eventual diminishment of the Christian population in Anatolia and its transition from Greek/Christian to Turkish/Muslim. Vryonis Jr, Speros (1971). The Decline of Medieval Hellenism in Asia Minor and the Process of Islamization from the Eleventh through the Fifteenth Century. California: Berkeley University Press. p. 176.
No, you make it sound like when the Ottomans conquered Constantinople they renamed it Istanbul. But it was not renamed until 500 years later. In fact, for the entire duration of the Ottoman empire, it's official name was Costantiniyye: essentially still Constantinople. And, ironically, Istanbul is a Greek name. Eis tin poli means "in the city". It was only adopted officially after the Ottoman empire was dismantled.
@@KAZVorpal Constantinople is really hard to pronounce for Turks and on the contrary İstanbul is much easier. I don't understand all the fuss about the name change. That was a naturally occuring practical solution.
Istanbul was a name the greek romans gave to the inner city of Constantinople and it is even mentioned in Ibn Batuta’s history when he visited the city under byzantine rule. Turks changed it after ww1 to remove any greek claim to Constantinople
Western authors give additional details about mixed marriages and the children born into such unions. The Latin historians of the Crusades noted in Anatolia a specific group of the Turkopouli (that is, 'the children of the Turks') who were born of a Greek mother and a Turkish father. For the beginning of the fourteenth century, the Catalan soldier and chronicler Ramon Muntaner reports that the Turks of western Anatolia married girls from noble Greek families. It is especially interesting that the male children of these mixed marriages 'became Turks and were circumcised', while for female children the choice of religion was free. The same difference between the religious affiliation of boys and girls was reported by Ludolf von Suchen in the middle of the fourteenth century. Von Suchen maintains that when the Turks married Christian women, the boys of the mixed marriages followed the Muslim religion of their fathers while the girls maintained the Christian faith of their mothers. However, as we have seen in Byzantine canonical texts, boys also could be baptised by their mothers. These reports confirm that, firstly, mixed marriages between Muslims and Greek women were common throughout the centuries, and, secondly, that the children of both Muslim and mixed marriages were baptised according to Orthodox Greek rites.
10:06 MAJOR CORRECTION children were forcibly taken against the will of their families for nothing in return and taught to forget their past in order to be used as soldiers against their people... The only way to keep your child safe and in your hands was by bгeaking one of their arms or legs
Nah, It happened during late ages. There were restrict rules of recruitment. There was special fund of buying children. Moreover all recruitment process were under control of janissaries. Funny part is, janissaries were who kidnapped and enslave children..... There were no turkish army at balkans. Turkish army (siphai) couldnt enter balkans but war times
@@taylannurlu7430 Children were not bought, they were only taken by the janissaries who were raised in the Turkish culture of taking innocent kids, disgusting
8:42 Among others?!?! You should've mentioned that those "other" laws included the KIDNAPPING of Christian children for the Sultan's personal army and the rule which allowed the local turkish governor/soldier to sleep with a man's wife before their honeymoon... Also not being able to ring the bells on their churchee, but the first two were WAY more important that anything y'all mentioned...
@@IgnasV Ikr, most people that I talked to denied these facts tho some supported those heinous actions... But the worst are the makers of this video that falsify historical facts to gain more viewers
@@IgnasV Ikr, most people that I talked to denied these facts tho some supported those heinous actions... But the worst are the makers of this video that falsify historical facts to gain more viewers
The Devşirme system only applied to Greek and Albanian Christians, not the Rûm Millet itself. And bells could be rang, you'll have to provide sources that they could not.😊
@@ishakrahuya You lying hypocrite... It's called a "blood tax" in English and it applied to ALL Christians you guys oppressed not just the Greeks and Albanian Christians, don't you dare minimize our suffering... I bet you also denie the Armenian genoςide
People often fail to acknowledge the migration of Oriental Greeks/Ottoman Christians to the U.K. starting in the 1600s, culminating in the era of Greek, Assyrian, Armenian and Babylonian genocides within the Turkish state
There was a very extensive slave trade of Christians in Anatolia by the Seljuk Turks in the eleventh and twelfth centuries which caused a significant decline in the numbers of Christians in Asia minor. After Edessa was captured and pillaged, 16,000 Christians were enslaved. Michael the Syrian reported that 16,000 Christians were enslaved and sold at Aleppo when the Turks, led by Nur ad-Din invaded Cilicia. Major raids in the Greek provinces of western Anatolia led to the enslavement of thousands of Greeks. 26,000 people from Armenia, Mesopotamia and Cappadocia were captured and taken to slave markets during Turkic raids in the year 1185. "Asia Minor continued to be a major source of slaves for the Islamic world through the 14th century" according to Speros Vryonis.[118] After the Seljuks conquered parts of Asia Minor, they brought to the devastated lands Greek, Armenian and Syrian farmers after enslaving entire Byzantine and Armenian villages and towns.[119] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world
You forgot to mention the Greek, Armenian, and Assyrian genocides that resulted in the deaths of over 1.5 million Christians. You also did not mention the forced relocation of 2 million Indigenous Greeks living in their ancestral home lands in Western Anatolia (modern day West Turkey), to mainland Greece.
@@nomadiscipline the genocide denial runs deep with the Turks. Next thing you will deny the holocaust too? 🤣🤣 did you know that Hitler was inspired by the Greek and Armenian genocide he looked up to the Ottomans. Just goes to show how evil some people can be
What about genocides in Algeria Morocco Syria Iraq Yemen Spain Portugal sicily. Ottoman gave them religious rights and they revolted and gain independence because they were not forcefully converted Christians in serbia Bulgaria wallicia and other terrorists but what about sicily Spain and Portugal where there is old Islamic communities ¿
That’s not what politically correct means and the fact you use it that way belies your own political literacy. There were still churches in Cordoba when the moors were expelled from Spain, the same cannot be said of the mosques left in the hands of Castile and other parts of former Muslim conquered regions.
@@mueezadam8438 You're confused. Spain was Christian land - the Moors invaded European land and were thankfully expelled. They were not Muslim regions - the Muslims were occupying European and Christian land.
8:23 Constantinople wasn't renamed after Mehmed Fatih's conquest. The city was informally called "Istanbul" since several centuries earlier but it wasn't officially renamed until 1930.
People's awareness of Greek civilization and identity came away gravely damaged after the decline of the Byzantine Empire and Ottoman rule. “Hellene,” the appellation that defined the Greek people, had been abandoned: because Byzantium was part of the Roman Empire, the Greeks had taken to calling themselves Romans, Ῥωμαίοι. At the turn of the nineteenth century, as Ottoman rule waned and Greece regained a sense of its own identity, the language situation was, to put it mildly, paradoxical. The traditional written language had remained largely faithful to ancient Athenian-based Koine, yet it was so removed from the language then spoken that people no longer understood it. And there was no one cultural, political, or social identity strong enough to impose its language on the new Greek society. The only center to safeguard Greekness over the centuries had been the Church, which had done so by conserving ancient Koine. So, people looked to it to provide the revival of Hellenism with a common language. When the Greek War of Independence came to an end, the one way to recover a common outlook was to take a step back in time- two thousand years back. In fact, in its infancy, modern Greece established its identity by returning to its roots in Pericles' Athens of fifth century BC. Therefore, the written language that originated from Hellenistic Koine, which itself originated from the lonic-Attic dialect, gave Greece a united language that corresponded to their reacquired sense of national unity. Modern Greek pronunciation was achieved by keeping what was common to the majority of Hellenes and eliminating all local quirks. The vowel sounds of Koine remained intact, as did its written form. Modern Greek phonetics is the same as Hellenistic phonetics, though some consonants are pronounced differently. Although the grammatical forms that had disappeared thousands of years before, like aspect, dual number, the optative, and the dative, could not be resurrected, in many regards modern Greek remained ancient. The current language continues to draw a distinction between the present and aorist, retaining all of that distinction's semantic value, and still uses the accusative, nominative, genitive, and vocative cases (though the plural genitive is rarely used, and the nominative and vocative are often mixed up). Modern Greek made two surprising innovations. It got rid of infinitive verbs-a feature it shares with the languages of the Balkans-and invented a future tense by paraphrasing the verb "to want": "I will judge" is expressed as a кpivo, "I want to judge"-and therefore "will judge."
The word "Hellene" became the word used by the followers of the Old Gods in the Roman Empire to identify themselves while those who are Christians identified themselves Romans.
There mustn't be a better example of a 'moving' ethno-linguistic group than the Turkic peoples. They started out from Eastern Siberia (Mongolia, Altai) and now are main ethnic constituents of various countries, like Turkey, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, etc.
The Christian sources describe the naval attacks of the Turks as operations of pirates who aimed at pillaging property and taking captives to sell in slave-markets. Latins and Byzantines expressed much indignation at the spectacle of emirs who were proud only because they were able to lead their ferocious soldiers in predatory raids. The earliest source narrating the wars carried out by the Turks in the Byzantine frontier zones during the collapse of the Seljuk state is the work of George Pachymeres; he describes the Turkish warriors as people earning their living by the knife. Nevertheless what the Christians used to call piracy or brigandage was for the Muslim Turks a Holy War a praiseworthy and legitimate occupation leading directly to Paradise. In 1354 the Metropolitan of Thessalonica Gregory Palama sliving among the Turks as a prisoner realized with surprise that the Turks attributed their victories over the Byzantines to their love for God: For these impious people hated by God and infamous boast of having got the better of the Romans by their love of God... they live by the bow, the sword, and debauchery finding pleasure in taking slaves, devoting themselves to murder pillage spoil... and not only do they commit these crimes but even - what an aberration - they believe that God approves of them. This is what think of them now that know more precisely about their way of life.
I am guessing people won't talk about their genocide? What happened was Genocide. When the Muslims conquered they killed those who didn't convert. While, they didn't at first, but overtime you can read about how it got worse and worse for the Christians making it worth changing faith.
You are right but it is impossible to cover this subject in a single video mate, no matter if it’s one of the best out there. “The Blight of Asia” is one of the most credible accounts written on the subject.
As an Assyrian they got murdered. Half of our population was killed starting in 1914 by the Ottoman Turks and their Kurdish allies. Almost completely emptying the entire regions of Mardin, Diyarbekir, Urfa, Hakkari of Assyrians. About 2000 individuals are left. Only one personof my family survived. Same goes for Armenians and Greeks. This ws also not the first time massacres happened. They also treated many 'non-believers' as second class citizens. Discriminating them through severe taxation, legal rights, oen example wa stje Blood Tax which menat they enslaved young Christian men for conversion to Islam and service in the military. This led many to conver as well.
The child tax was levied for nobles who couldn’t/wouldn’t pay the jizya in money. It was discriminatory yes but far more humane than expulsion or slaughter like what the house of Castile did to Muslims in Spain
@@mueezadam8438 At the time of the Assyrian Genocide Christian Countries secularized and became tolerant while the Islamic remained and still remains backwards and intolerant
@@ironzombie39 yes there were many Christian nations that were secular and tolerant, I have great respect for Poland and the other NON-imperial European countries for this. But the truth is, being a Christian or Muslim nation doesn’t prevent evil men from becoming leaders. At that point the British were killing Europeans and Africans for misbehaving in their South African holdings. This isn’t an attempt at whataboutism but evidence that what occurred that day to the villagers had nothing to do with Islam or Christianity and everything to do with the brutality of human nations at that time.
So we're gonna ignore the fact that Assyrians like the Armenians collaborated with the Russian Empire and commited acts of violence against the muslim civilians of Eastern Turkey ?
@@nenenindonu There was literally no violence lmao, it's Turkish Propaganda. You're just salty that Non-Muslims wanted total independence from a Muslim Empire
Many inaccuracies here and there which are not even down to the fast pace of the video. I will only name some of these : 1. Matzikert was not initself a crucial battle, it was just a run of the mill battle between Eastern Romans (Greeks) and Seljuks (Turks). There were numerous such battles some won by Greek (who literally slayed big Seljuk armies, all forgotten by now) others by Seljuks. What did the job for the Seljuks was the massive Civil War of the 1070s following the battle of Matzikert as well as the rebellion of the Frankish mercenaries in central Anatolia when Turks had actually retracted. Only after these 2 events the Turks re-enterred and started raiding all over the place but still their expansion was not as far as the map was shown (i.e. taking almost all of Minor Asia - this expansion occured only 2 centuries later after the Eastern Empire had been destroyed by the Catholics). 2. The Janissaries were abducted enslaved children which were forced to convert and serve the Sultan. The tails of "Christians willingly giving their children to slavery are bogus turkish claims and refer to cases where people were literally dying of hunger, the fault of the Turks who were taking everything, and hence as a last ditch effort they would prefer to see their sons be taken to the Janissaries rather than see them die". For the Christians, converting to islam was converting to satanism so there is no such case as "Christians willingly giving their kids to the Turks" - this myth was rather created by Turks to precisely swear at Christians and present them as people who don't even love their kids. 3. The video presented it as-if Christians in general (thus Greeks in them) remembered to rebel in the 19th century after the nationalism wave hit Europe. LOL! Rather it happened the other way round : in Europe there was absolutely no nationalism going on anywhere and the only place where nationalism existed was among Greeks in the Ottoman Empire. Greeks - and no other Christian (apart rare occasions among the Serbs) - were rebelling constantly against the Ottomans and were in a state of constant warfare with the Ottomans throughout the 3,5 centuries of occupation between 1353 and 1821. The biggest revolution was not even that of 1821 but that of 1768 where, in collaboration with Russians (who only exploited but did not create the Greek Revolution) the 80% of the Ottoman fleets were burned and the Empire was trembling, having lost total control of the Aegean Sea. The Empire was saved then and there by the intervention of the western Europeans who threatened the Russians out of that alliance and isolating the Greeks, then financing and arming and training the Ottomans to beat the Greeks. 1768 is of course earlier than any "nationalist revolution" in Europe. The first "nationalist movements" in Europe ooccured post-1830s and were precisely inspirerd by the Greeks. It is thus funny that people will say that it was the other way round. In general not just this channel but youtube history channels keep recreating historical inaccuracies. Which is kinda sad given the opportunities this medium presents.
Also the author forgets some more recent events such as the Armenian genocide, i.e. murdering more than a million Armenians, and the Pontus genocide in 1919, murdering 200-353.000 Christians in Pontus. Also the fire and massacre of Smyrna, the working camps, and even the 1955 pogrom to Greeks in Constantinople.
@@Blacknightgr1 These channels are paid mostly by NGO's of a particular political leaning and not mostly by viewers. They are professional propagandists posing in the clothes of history educators. They don't forget, they intentionally omit.
@@Blacknightgr1 too much butthurt leads to imaginary genocides :D you are weak, you are lazy, you backstab and you lose miserably. Instead lose the victimhood mindset and improve your nations
Christian Orthodox people belonged to the millet-i Rum, and progressively, Greek became the dominant means of communication amongst the members of the millet, who were called by others and were calling themselves. Romioi. Interestingly, the term 'Hellene' still signified for most people the pagan classical tradition, and it was a term that especially the clergy was keen to eliminate. Certain evocations of the term 'Hellene' by Byzantine scholars (e.g. in the twelfth century) contained some elements of contemporary ethnic identification, but it never acquired widespread currency, it never really "caught" on' (Beaton 2007: 93).
Most Orthodox Greeks found the idea of a modern connection to ancient Hellenic culture to be distasteful, as it was perceived as a culture which encourages bizarre behavior.
Correction about the Roman Empire adopting Christianity. Constantine didn’t make Christianity the official religion that was Theodosius. Constantine legalized Christianity. Constantine wasn’t Christian himself, he was a member of the sol invitus cult which shared many similarities with Christianity.
@@8lindzy Here’s the thing. He could have done that for political reasons. Christianity had become the dominant religion and Constantine was looking for stability in an unstable era. It’s why he had his soldiers put the Christian symbol on their shields in the last battle to win the empire. It was a propaganda effort. Privately he may have not been religious at all. He did preach religious tolerance so we can say he wasn’t a fanatic. We can say this for a lot of leaders in history too.
@@sanguisbumb6138 but in your previous description, you clearly stated he wasn't a Christian or didn't become a Christian although perhaps he might probably be a non-practicing Christian like the early newly converted Christians Europeans were. Constantine certainly was a Christian according to historians and archaeologists
One of the reasons why the Ottoman Empire's Muslim population increased was because of the conversion of the Albanians and the Bosniaks from Christianity to Islam and also the later migration of the Circassian tribes from the Caucasus after the Russian Empire seized the Caucasus from them.
The predominance of Greek women at the Seljuk harem thus seems to have been merely a royal variation of a common practice in Muslim Anatolia. Greek women were valued as the most prestigious marriage partners among all strata of Muslim society. It was Greek women who guided their Muslim husbands and masters into the refined Byzantine way of life and the world of Byzantine luxury, introducing among other things new cuisines and ways of structuring the household. Although the information on Seljuk marriage policy in the eleventh to twelfth century is scarce, it seems highly probably that the Seljuk harem was modelled along similar lines as other strata of Muslim Anatolian society, with a preference of marriage to Greek women who in turn acted as mediators to the old world of the 'empire of the Romans'. Peacock, A. and Yildiz, S., 2012. The Seljuks of Anatolia.
"Now called Istanbul:" I am almost certain that the Turks called the city Konstantiniye until 1932, when a Law on stamps by Kemal Ataturk called it Istanbul. Interestingly, the word "Constantinople" is half Latin (Constantinus) and half Greek (Polis), while Istanbul is a Turkish pronunciation of the entirely Greek expression "Is tin Polin" (at the City). Still today, most Greeks avoid the long word Constantinoupolis, if the speech is not formal, and call it "Polis".
One correction: Janissary corps those were taken from christian communities were largely from Balkan peninsula not from Anatolia, Syria and eastern regions where also Armenian people lived together with Muslim community.
Or how they skipped giving a more detailed account on how the Jannissaries were the result of the "blood tax", where they were forcefully taken and converted. Being one of the reasons why greeks sought independence.
Yes, these kind of videos (and school books) always whitewash the misdeeds of Islamic societies in history, because it is only popular to criticize Western societies.
This is quite wrong: Byzantium did not integrate any Muslims and there were not more Jews in Byzantium than in the West (the core of historical Jewry was Hispania and to lesser extent nearby areas of Italy and Provence, Marseilles being at the origin of the Ashkenazi spread to Germany and beyond). Muslims on the other hand were relatively tolerant of both Christians and Jews (and the Ottomans, among various others, welcomed the exiled Sephardites), while Islamization of Anatolia was mostly achieved by brutal genocide of Christians in the Ottoman-Republic transition at the end of WWI. The Armenian genocide is well known but the forced exile to Greece of millions of Anatolian Christians, arbitrarily considered by their religion to be ethnic Greeks (although many only spoke Turkish) was maybe even more decisive. It's quite ironic that secularist Kemalism was the main actor in this Islamization of Turkey. On a lesser note, Constanipole and Antioch are not in Asia Minor, even if they are in the modern Republic of Turkey.
One of the best videos on the subject out there ! For those interested, a very enlightening book is “The Thirty-Year Genocide: Turkey's Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894-1924”.
@@drazantodoric6040 The ones who could save their lives returned to Türkiye, land of the Turks. But most of them were massacred by Christians. A century long genocide against Turks took place in the Balkans especially organised by Greeks beginning with Tripoliçe massacre. Just as told in the Greek anthem.
@@mehmetcaglarozgur7679 I am truly sad to hearing this, but...first was 1915 genocide against Armenians and Pontiac Greeks, than this. All the victims are ordinary people.
@@drazantodoric6040 What first? İf you are trying to find a first then look for the Eastern Romans exterminating the Armenians 1000 years ago. On the other hand, in 1915 Armenians attacked us from behind and we protected ourselves. There is no such thing as Pontiac genocide.
What happened to Christian majority of Anatolia? Same thing that happened to the Hindu majority Bengal that became Bangladesh..and the Hindu-sikh region of Punjab and Sindh that became Pakistan...and the majapahit Hindu Buddhist kingdom of Indonesia..the list goes on..and will end only when the whole world either forcibly becomes Muslims or Islam is destroyed
Anatolia will remain the largest gaping wound in the Western world, in Europe, Greece, and the Christian world The Holy Bible in the New Testament takes us through four major regions that witness the birth of Christianity: the Levant, Anatolia, the Balkans, and Italy. Two of them were lost If the loss of the Levant is a natural thing, because it is an eastern land inhabited by Semites, but Anatolia continued for 2000 years as a Greek European land. In the context of the war between East and West Between Iran and Greece The Turks were able to resolve that war through the Turkification and Islamization of Anatolia The Balkans became mostly Slavic There is nothing left of Greek civilization except the region of the Aegean Islands
Ottoman Empire had hybrid societies. There are many elements of ritualls of paganism mixed into Christianity first and then to Islam. Like candle lighting for Christian saints and Muslim saints for wishes. 40 days rituals. So many others. Shamanism added rituals to those beliefs as well. People visited each others' religious temples.. Muslims went to drink from "ayazmas" ,the holly water fountains to get blessings. Most of the Ottoman population was either Christian converts or Christians. Variety of elements of Abrahamic religions, paganism and shamanism/Tengrism were intertwined together. Amazing cultural richness was everywhere.
Hate the Byzantine name but weird that you seem to consider the Eastern Roman Empire and Byzantium different entities. Idk, at the end of the day all I know is that there are still small communities of Greek speaking Orthodox Romans im Syria and Turkey
Many inaccurate things here. The Turks were initially extremely intolerable to other religions. In fact, the Seljuks applied a convert or die policy. Secondly, the Seljuks were certainly not the beginning of the end. After the loss of Anatolia, the Romans were still extremely capable. They repeatedly defeated the Turks over and over until most of Anatolia was recovered including the vast majority of the Christian population, and especially all the important Roman cities along Anatolia’s coast. Byzantium was still quite powerful and wealthy compared to everyone else in Europe and the Middle East. It was the 4th crusade that completely broke their power. The Turks were almost negligible in comparison. Even the Ottomans conquered much less Roman land than even the Serbs and Bulgars at the time.
west anatolia was under control of armeninans and they were ally with seljuck. There were no land connection with other muslims. How can it possible then?
In a poem, Malik Danishmend boasts: "I am Al Ghazi Danishmend, the destroyer of churches and towers". Destruction and pillaging of churches figure prominently in his poem. Another part of the poem talks about the simultaneous conversion of 5,000 people to Islam and the murder of 5,000 others.[129] Michael the Syrian wrote: “As the Turks were ruling the lands of Syria and Palestine, they inflicted injuries on Christians who went to pray in Jerusalem, beat them, pillaged them, and levied the poll tax [jizya]. Every time they saw a caravan of Christians, particularly of those from Rome and the lands of Italy, they made every effort to cause their death in diverse ways".[130] Such was the fate German pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 1064. According to one of the surviving pilgrims:[131] "Accompanying this journey was a noble abbess of graceful body and of a religious outlook. Setting aside the cares of the sisters committed to her and against the advice of the wise, she undertook this great and dangerous pilgrimage. The pagans captured her, and the sight of all, these shameless men raped her until she breathed her last, to the dishonor of all Christians. Christ's enemies performed such abuses and others like them on the christians." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
To answer ur question it was under the roman empire at the time and christianity wasnt forced, it became heavily chrisitan under pserexition until it was tolerated and accpeted by the roman empire so it wasnt forced or Christians conqueiring, unlike the muslims turks who invaded and forcefullu converted the Christian anatolians through different means jizya and dhimmis status or other ways, so the population was turkified and islamified just like what the arabs did to the Christian north africans and levantines, adopt the culture and religion of ur conquerer, so thats the difference christianity and islam came differently to anatolia and how they got ppl to convert
Disappointing that you barely mentioned the 1.5 million Armenian, 500,000 Greek, and 250,000 Assyrian Christians who were intentionally annihilated by the Turks in the 20th century... shame.
Total disinformantion and slander withıout actual proof just based on propağanda what similar to Israel did for palastine for years. Todal we know that Israel many genocide againts Palastine. Armenian lobby, nations who want to use these false claims as leverage use these accusations for poletical benefit.
This is incredibly simplistic, I thought I’d learn something of the conversion of Anatolia but you really painted in broad strokes, its conversion was almost a millennia long process…
The Genocide against Christians stared from day 1 and the destruction and stealing of our Holy Cathedrals. They only reason why Orthodox faith still alive is cause JesusChrist himselve preserve it alive and he will be back to judge all nations ☦️
@@perceivedvelocity9914 Not really.. This channel had been spewing anti-christian propaganda in some of their past videos and they had no problem with that.
I want to state some wrongs in this.. The child tax Christians didnt like it thats why they married their kids at the age of 12-13 yo, or if they were wealthy the sent them in Europe to study, or they paid off Turks official to skip their turn, or if a Christian girl was impregnated by a muslim and he didnt marry her in most cases they killed her before she was able to give birth..there wasnt any official Sultan order to convert all Christians to Muslims but regionally there were Pashais that did that and the regime itself made them convert... And the fact they were free to practice their religion isnt exactly true for the same reasons.... The biggest failure of the Ottomans was that even if they didnt push the populations(as they claim) the head of the State didn't actually care about their populations(especially the non Muslims) and as long as they got their pennies they didnt give a pennie on what was happening....
Greek ? Hahaha you mean the war between Greeks and what was left of a resistence against an invading force where both sides killed a lot of people and illneses and cold killed more ? Look I get it you are told all kinds of bullshit but at least show proof.
😂 i wish that's true bud but can't you see logic? How can mere humans just let lands be reduce to ruins? They probably got converted to mosque. If you mean religious institution,they just moved to Moscow.
You can't call Genocide a conversion and it wasn't "gradual" they stole our Churches since day 1. We Greeks never converted to islam cause we are not barbarians from the desert easy to convice with "72 virgins in paradise" Babarian Turks just used islam as an excuse for genocide against Greeks and Armenians and that's why they are gonna lose entire Anatolia again !
Quantify ‘mostly’. There were still many churches, enough in fact for the sizable Christian Armenian population to practice. Those were only destroyed post-ottoman
Genocide, greek speaks greek and armian speaks their own language, ottoman turks did not change religion or language, Also if you are gonna make s genocide, you would do it when you are at strongest times, Why did ottoman turks choose a time to make a genocide when all 7 christian countries attack ? Did you atrack a man when you are ill or sick ? What you said genocide is the failed attempt of Armenians by Russians to attack turks and the result is one of the biggest defeat of Armenians
What are you yapping about there are mosques in greece where there are muslim minorities, there are very few churches in greece. Greece upheld the lausane agreement and allowed religious groups in thrace to keep their religion and even have some Turkish language schools. Turkey did not and forced remaining greeks to leave thace and withheld language rights in Imbros and Tenedos. Turkish state is one based on ethnic homogeneity and soon they will genocide the kurds as well, they will take away their language(they have pretty much banned it already) and force them to become Turkish. You have done it in Cyprus you have done it in thace you have done it to Aegean coast. H man had said Atatürk was his biggest inspiration and Turkey is the world's first genocidal state
@@hopeundertheblacksunwhen nationalism came to Greece they expelled Muslim then the Turks also expelled christians from Turkey. 700000+800000 almost 1.5 million people exchanged their homes.
Ibn Battuta often spoke of slaves that the Turks used as domestic servants or sex slaves during his travels through Anatolia during the 1300s. There was a large number of slaves at Laodicea, in the harems of the prominent citizens. Some of the slaves had arrived in the marketplaces in large quantities, and Batouta himself acquired a slave woman at Balıkesir, close to Pergamon. According to Ibn Battuta, the emir of Smyrna, Omour Beg, among the most famous of slave traders during this period (and often went into expeditions for slaves in the Aegean Sea) personally presented him with the gift of a slave woman. The slaves often sought to escape at any costs. Battuta describes how his slave fled from Magnesia together with another slave and how the two fugitives were later captured.[79][120][121] In the year 1341, The Turkish bey Umur of Aydin terrorized the Christians in the Aegean sea with his 350 ships and 15,000 men from a captured port in Smyrna, capturing many slaves.[122] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world
10:16 No they did NOT want that!! Would you want your son to be taken from you and sent to the UAE/Oman/Saudi Arabia just to be a bit more wealthy than he would be in your family???
Big ups to Turks, they did the most prosperous demographic engineering of the 20th century traded Greek and Armenians Christians in favor of Muslim Albanians, Bosniaks, Tatars, Circassians, etc.
@@zafjohn no they didnt. Those groups tried to ethnically cleanse the Muslim population from the 6 vilayets even though you unalived 500-800,000 Muslim civilians in the end you failed. You got deported with the intent of being returned after the war (and the reason for the deportation order was the siege of Van which resulted in 40,000 displaced Muslims and 10,000 deaths in the city in 1915) we have the sources for the deportation orders (making mention of 900,000+ deportees), the 1922 US state department estimate (on which we can base that 90% of the overall civilian deported population survived or 817,873 people out of the 900,000~ or so deported people) which would've been higher had the allies not put a sea blockade on Lebanon and Syria causing famines there and indirectly causing more Armenian deaths) and numbers from the Russians on the over 250,000+ armed Armenians (25% of Ottoman Armenians and 50% of the male population) that fought with them such as the Russian Armenian volunteer unit (at 200,000 strong eighty percent of which were Ottoman Armenians), the Fedayi which had 50,000 members and the tens of thousands of Armenians that were part of the Dashnak, Hunchak, Armenakan and others. As for the Greeks, Ottoman Anantolia had a max of 1,53M Greeks (exc. Syria and Lebanon and Palestine as the Orthodox Greeks there were Arab christian) in 1914 even if they grew by 15% in a period of 9 years (or would've) 1,5m of these Greeks were sent to Greece (on the Greek government's request) while 200,000 stayed in Turkey meaning less than 5% of Ottoman Greeks died..meanwhile 640,000 Turks died during the Greek occupation (Excluding thr activities of Pontic Greeks against the Muslim population) where's 800,000+ Muslim got displaced of the 4 Vilayets that the Greeks occupied this is 25%~ of the Muslim population either killed or displaced.
8:23 a little fixing on it. The name İstanbul has been given to Constantinople after 1923. After Mehmed conquered the city, there was just a tiny name change. Constantinople-->Konstantiniyye
Same thing as what happened in North Africa. Many Christian communities in that region resisted conversion for centuries after the 7th century conquest, but being cut off from the rest of Christiandom and with no hope of ejecting their overlords resulted that with the partial exception of the Copts in Egypt practically everyone had converted to Islam by the early Second Milllennium.
You forgot to mention 15-20 million balkan white muslims were forced to migrate to Ottoman empire to save their life. This also help to increase muslim population in Turkey
The muslims force albanians and bosniaks to be muslims😂 u as paki indian better not speak about that pakistanis are islamic indians u where forced to convert to islam
Some westerners making video for the Balkans what a joke. Except the genocide on all nations that were conquered, there is one very important thing to be considered. Janissary. First blooded child of Christian families was taken by the Ottomans. Meaning 80-90% of the modern Turkey DNA based is Bulgarian, Greek and Armenian
The name Constantinople changed in 1930. In Ottoman era, the name is "Konstantiniyye" which means "The city of Constantine" Ottomans just changed the name from Greek to Turkish. Mehmed did not changed the name because Mehmed knows and reads a lot about Roman Empire. Also he wants to become a Roman emperor. After he took the city, he called himself "Qayser-i Rum" which means "Roman Caesar" or "Caesar of the Romans". So it will be absurd if he changes the name of the city. Also if you look at the design of the Ottoman Mosques, you will see that the design is inspired by Haghia Sophia and other Orthodox Cathedrals. It is a little mistake I saw on the video. Also I think do not believe the statistics about Turkish Government, I am Turkish and there is no way that the muslim percent is %99 in Turkiye. It is much much lower.
@@bigthoughts2644No problem and thank you for your reply. As a history lover, I try to teach to Europeans and other people that we Turks, are different than other Muslim countries. After all, we all live in historical Roman Territories.😁
@@caganyigitakbas659are you Muslim or irreligious like the Turks of the mid-20th century, I'm just curious about you disassociating yourself from Muslims of the Middle East which have been your faith origin.
Too many historical errors, I don’t know where to start: 1- Constantinople was called Constantinople until 1930’s. 2- Turks were part of the Eastern Roman Empire and it’s army long before Manzikiert war. 3- Christian Turks were living in Anatolia up until 1920 population exchange 4- Turkish war of independence has nothing to do with Armenians, Armenians were expelled due to their cooperation with enemy russian forces during ww1. 5- Video doesn’t talk about conversations. People convert to christianity or islam depending on the tax advantages 😃
5:25 very good point. The Eastern Mediterranean being much more diverse with Muslims, Jews and Christians living together and closer to Islam's origin made it easier for Islam to spread into Anatolia and stay mostly Muslim till today.
And why do people always claim “Islam is a religion of peace a tolerance “ is it just pure ignorance or distortions of what islam is all about “submission and subjugation” Hopefully greeks will find their reconquista soon and take back their lands
Do you think that every person follows religion? Read what the Christians did when they occupied Istanbul in Hagia Sophia. I looked at your other comments and you are very Islamophobic. Don't put the blackness in your heart into comments
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm Christianity is about Love and Forgiveness just read the teachings of Christ. He has never killed, waged war or incited violence against anyone
@@BHTQ18 tell that the the baltic tribes during the northern crussade! Or thr natives or the middle east or pakistan india or china or israel palestine tell that to the circassians tell that to the congolese tell that to algeries tell that the africa still subjugated by francafrique! Tell that to aboriginals and native Americans
Im from Serboa wgich were for centurys in Otoman slavery so i tell you no parents wan't to give childrens in Janičari, they even cut their fingers or other parts just to stay home and that is real tru!!!
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm and who were " Janočari "? Children which took by forse from Christians to bekam muslim wariors for Sultan! Please don't talk about genocid which Osmanly do to my people!
This video glosses over so many atrocities its actually appaling idk who the creator is trying to please with this but this is one of the worst videos on this subject
Constantine was not only one of the greatest emperors of all time, but also a top-notch troll. Everyone in Rome was completely ecstatic because they calculated a 100% chance that Maxentius would make Constantine his b*tch at the Milvian Bridge, only to find Constantine entering Rome while carrying Maxentius' head on a dpear and saying: "Guess who prayed to the wrong God" 😉
That representation of Nicaea is utterly false. Nicaea was mostly to do with Arius, who had been contradicting prior teaching. There were also such councils before Christianity was even legal. For instance, the deposition of Paul of Samosata for Adoptionism
@@Hussein.Lb33123 i was not answering that,of how it is named now.i answered to someone who said istanbul was the name from the time it got conquered.witch is not a fact.. it got that name officially in 20 th century. of course istanbul also is a greek word anyways.it means to the city= ις-την-πολη
I cover this topic in my History of the Middle East and Western Civ courses! It would also be interesting to show what happened when the Mughals entered India. If you enjoy history, I am a history professor and put all my lectures up on my channel as a free resource. Many homeschoolers enjoy them!
I mean considering what actually happened. It's colonialism. That's what happened Water under the bridge now, Turkey is Turkish and that's no one's business but the Turks but that is what happened (Even if they really, REALLY need to lay off the Kurds. No one is going to remember them fondly for that because the Kurds aren't going anywhere)
There are two blue books called Bryce Report by James Bryce, which the British manipulated the world public opinion in a biased way during the first world war. The first of these is called "Committee on Alleged German Outrages". It contains stories of fabricated massacre torture and genocide by the Germans while they were in Belgium. Today this book is accepted to be a wartime fabrication of British propaganda. The name of the second book is "The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire". The so-called Armenian genocide is mainly based on this biased wartime propaganda work. Those who accept that the first book is a fabrication claim that the second book is real. They could not usurp Turkish lands with weapons. But they inflicted 100 years of hatred on the head of the New Turkish Republic. Today, the Republic of Turkey continues to struggle with a fabricated propaganda piece written in 1916. While Turks want historians to solve this problems, western politicians want to chew like gum this problem in their mouths. Turkey has made all the archives of the Ottoman Empire publicly accessible since years, but Armenia is afraid to open its archives.
Sultan Alp Arslan pledged: “I shall consume with the sword all those people who venerate the cross, and all the lands of the Christians shall be enslaved.”[118] Alp Arslan ordered the Turks:[119] "Henceforth all of you be like lion cubs and eagle young, racing through the countryside day and night, slaying the Christians and not sparing any mercy on the Roman nation" It was said that “the emirs spread like locusts, over the face of the land,”[120] invading every corner of Anatolia, sacking some of ancient Christianity's most important cities, including Ephesus, home of Saint John the Evangelist; Nicaea, where Christendom's creed was formulated in 325; and Antioch, the original see of Saint Peter, and enslaved many.[121][122][123] According to French historian J. Laurent, hundreds of thousands of the native Anatolian Christians were reported to have been massacred or enslaved during the invasions of Anatolia by the Seljuk Turks.[124][125] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
They didn't convert ro Chritianity without discrimination and violence. Paganism took hundreds of hears to dje. The portrayal of rhe whole place converting because the Empire had adopted a new religion is mot historically correct.
north and south americans were pagans before being forced into Christianity and even entire europe was dominated by paganism or native religions before Christianity
8:23 this is wrong the name of the city wasnt actually changed until after ww1 and it is still called many names by the Greeks "Konstaniople" "The City"
The London Conference of 1832 was an international conference convened to establish a stable government in Greece. Negotiations between the three Great Powers (Britain, France and Russia) resulted in the establishment of the Kingdom of Greece under a Bavarian Prince. The decisions were ratified in the Treaty of Constantinople later that year. There wasn't any Greek political entity up to the 1800's when Britain, France, and Russia decided to establish an artifical ethno-state ruled by a German Dynasty to drain Ottoman influence, the previous two millennia of "Greece's history" were spent under continuous Roman-Turkish yoke
"The fact is that following that of the USA, the Greek Revolution was the first liberal and national movement to succeed in Europe and developed simultaneously with similar movements in South America, while it preceded the well-known large national unifications in Europe, of Italy and Germany. The Greeks did not invent the nation-state, but they were the first in Europe to implement it." Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021
"Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'." Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268 "As heirs to the Greeks and Romans of old, the Byzantines thought of themselves as Rhomaioi, or Romans, though THEY KNEW FULL WELL that they were ETHNICALLY GREEKS." (see also: Savvides & Hendricks 2001).Niehoff 2012, Margalit Finkelberg, "Canonising and Decanonising Homer: Reception of the Homeric Poems in Antiquity and Modernity", p. 20 or Pontificium Institutum Orientalium Studiorum 2003, p. 482
@@vangelisskia214 "thought they knew full that were ethnically greeks" ---Hahaha They never called themselves greeks.These people, who believed in a religion of Middle Eastern origin and came from Italy, viewed the greeks as inferior.
@@SultanSuleiman980 You are turkish? If so, we definitely share ancestral populations. Modern turks are a mix of central asians as you know with native anatolian greeks, persians, and armenians. Central asian ancestry varies strongly from like half to very low in certain crypto armenian populations.
Sultan Alp Arslan pledged: “I shall consume with the sword all those people who venerate the cross, and all the lands of the Christians shall be enslaved.”[118] Alp Arslan ordered the Turks:[119] Henceforth all of you be like lion cubs and eagle young, racing through the countryside day and night, slaying the Christians and not sparing any mercy on the Roman nation It was said that “the emirs spread like locusts, over the face of the land,”[120] invading every corner of Anatolia, sacking some of ancient Christianity's most important cities, including Ephesus, home of Saint John the Evangelist; Nicaea, where Christendom's creed was formulated in 325; and Antioch, the original see of Saint Peter, and enslaved many.[121][122][123] According to French historian J. Laurent, hundreds of thousands of the native Anatolian Christians were reported to have been massacred or enslaved during the invasions of Anatolia by the Seljuk Turks.[124][125] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
There is still a lot being massacred worldwide. But no one cares when Christians are the victims. Christianity is still the most persecuted religion in the world.
They forcefully islamized and turkified. And that's how modern day turks were formed. Turks especially in the western regions, have a lot of greek dna. It's for a reason that even their cuisines are similar
I think your video was hasty and uncountable in many ways from the Janisaries thing to the word "remove" for the armenians...also no mention to pontic greek and assyrian genocide
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10:20 an absolute falsehood.
Balkan Christians did not want their children to be taken as Janissaries.
The abduction of Christian children was always violent...
Balkan Christians even cut off the little finger on the hand of their children, so that the Turks would not take those children...
It’s like saying the jews converted to christianity and that’s why they lost 1/2 of their population during WW2
How about you tell us the history of how the Albanians founded the Helenic republic ? You seem like to be one who is not biased ! this is a documentary by the "Greeks" themself ! th-cam.com/video/M99ze151HvA/w-d-xo.html
It is quite sad that Constantinople's name got unnecessarily changed, especially if we consider that the Ottomans officialy kept the name until just a century ago. "Istanbul" is not a bad name, but it has nothing to do against the supreme badassery of "Constantinople"
As a Muslim I agree
They changed it in 1930 after ottoman empire fell
If I remember correctly, Istanbul was the name locals had for the city and it replaced Constantinople even before Ottoman times. The republic just made it official.
Nah, Consantinople is way too long. Besides the Greeks should be reminded that they are never going to take Istanbul back.
We call It the Ottoman Empire but they called themselves the Sultanate of Rome.
The fact that he doesn't mention the literal genocide of thousands,almost a million of greeks that took place is greatly insulting .You are erasing a whole era of greek history and culture by just only mentioning the armenian genocide (and briefly as well ) . Disappointing
11:16 it literally mentions it here near the end, that’s how chronology works 😐
@@mueezadam8438 he accidentally said non muslims ,while the screen mentioned only the Armenian genocide.The biggest factor that lead to majority muslim population in asia minor is mentioned for 2 seconds. Incredible
Not everyone has to speak with one-sided philhellenist rethorics that rebrand your military failures a century ago so take your concerns elsewhere
The Greeks had their fair share of being genocidal to other nations. There are almost no other nations that neighbored the Greeks and did not suffer from their brutality. However, me saying that does not justify what you claim the Ottomans did to you. But as the famous proverb goes, don’t throw stones at others when your house is made of glass.
@@SeekerOfTruth5 so , because the greeks , according to you , where genocidal like the turks ( who committed so many atrocities I can't even count them ) ( and I'm talking only about the "rûm" turks of Anatolia ,not the countless other tribes ) he is justified for not mentioning the genocide of a million greeks?
The Battle of Manzikert paved way for Crusades and the Turkification of Anatolia which laid the seeds of the Ottoman empire which conquered Constantinople ending Rome and triggering the Age of Discovery which shaped much of the modern world,... A battle can only be this impactful
@@raylivengood8040The OP was talking about a turning point in history. Not the details.
İt was not only 1 battle manzikert has not changed a lot
Nice breakdown.
@@raylivengood8040 Speaking about the event that sparked the Crusades. That is the above reference. 1071. First Crusade ended in 1099.
It would be worse if the Turk press the advantage after the battle. The roman backstab politics that make the empire weak when those aristocrats betrayed their emperor at manzikert.
Intermarriage between Turks and Greek, Armenian and Georgian natives of Anatolia was not unheard of, although the majority of these unions were between Turkish men and Christian women. The children of these unions, known as 'Mixovarvaroi', were raised as Turks and were of the Muslim faith (although there were some cases of Mixovarvaroi defecting to the Byzantines). It is likely that these unions played a role in the eventual diminishment of the Christian population in Anatolia and its transition from Greek/Christian to Turkish/Muslim.
Vryonis Jr, Speros (1971). The Decline of Medieval Hellenism in Asia Minor and the Process of Islamization from the Eleventh through the Fifteenth Century. California: Berkeley University Press. p. 176.
Only quoting one paragraph from a work? Sin of omission mr kebab!
I find this interesting. I have ancestry from italians (catholics) who were of asian greek descent, so this is very enlightening thank you!
Marriages? You mean RAPES !
That's what muslims does all the time with Christian women and we have many Saints victims of Rape to probe it.
Nope..
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@@afterall-se6ih These are old skeletons iirc
No, you make it sound like when the Ottomans conquered Constantinople they renamed it Istanbul. But it was not renamed until 500 years later.
In fact, for the entire duration of the Ottoman empire, it's official name was Costantiniyye: essentially still Constantinople.
And, ironically, Istanbul is a Greek name. Eis tin poli means "in the city". It was only adopted officially after the Ottoman empire was dismantled.
Istanbul is not a Greek name. Its based on a misspelling of Greek of an informal term used to refer to the direction of the city.
@@MrAlepedroza Yes, that makes it a Greek name. It is the contraction of a Greek phrase meaning "in the city" into a single word.
@@KAZVorpal Constantinople is really hard to pronounce for Turks and on the contrary İstanbul is much easier. I don't understand all the fuss about the name change. That was a naturally occuring practical solution.
Istanbul was a name the greek romans gave to the inner city of Constantinople and it is even mentioned in Ibn Batuta’s history when he visited the city under byzantine rule. Turks changed it after ww1 to remove any greek claim to Constantinople
@@BHTQ18 They used a Greek word to deny the very real claim that the Greeks had to Constantinople.
That is a consistent kind of stupidity.
Western authors give additional details about mixed marriages and the children born into such unions. The Latin historians of the Crusades noted in Anatolia a specific group of the Turkopouli (that is, 'the children of the Turks') who were born of a Greek mother and a Turkish father. For the beginning of the fourteenth century, the Catalan soldier and chronicler Ramon Muntaner reports that the Turks of western Anatolia married girls from noble Greek families. It is especially interesting that the male children of these mixed marriages 'became Turks and were circumcised', while for female children the choice of religion was free. The same difference between the religious affiliation of boys and girls was reported by Ludolf von Suchen in the middle of the fourteenth century. Von Suchen maintains that when the Turks married Christian women, the boys of the mixed marriages followed the Muslim religion of their fathers while the girls maintained the Christian faith of their mothers. However, as we have seen in Byzantine canonical texts, boys also could be baptised by their mothers.
These reports confirm that, firstly, mixed marriages between Muslims and Greek women were common throughout the centuries, and, secondly, that the children of both Muslim and mixed marriages were baptised according to Orthodox Greek rites.
sounds very byzantine
Persians also did this aka safavids
Looks like you come from one of those Greek mothers.
that is so sad
@@nijingnima124sad about what
10:06 MAJOR CORRECTION
children were forcibly taken against the will of their families for nothing in return and taught to forget their past in order to be used as soldiers against their people... The only way to keep your child safe and in your hands was by bгeaking one of their arms or legs
Love how they delete replies to this comment...
Nah, It happened during late ages. There were restrict rules of recruitment. There was special fund of buying children. Moreover all recruitment process were under control of janissaries. Funny part is, janissaries were who kidnapped and enslave children..... There were no turkish army at balkans. Turkish army (siphai) couldnt enter balkans but war times
@@taylannurlu7430 Children were not bought, they were only taken by the janissaries who were raised in the Turkish culture of taking innocent kids, disgusting
They bought them. Their own parents sold them so why don't you blame them😊
@@muzamilraza49 Because that's not true, Turkish lies know no limits
8:42 Among others?!?!
You should've mentioned that those "other" laws included the KIDNAPPING of Christian children for the Sultan's personal army and the rule which allowed the local turkish governor/soldier to sleep with a man's wife before their honeymoon... Also not being able to ring the bells on their churchee, but the first two were WAY more important that anything y'all mentioned...
Can't alienate his Muslim audience. Although, they would probably be proud about it when I think about it.
@@IgnasV Ikr, most people that I talked to denied these facts tho some supported those heinous actions... But the worst are the makers of this video that falsify historical facts to gain more viewers
@@IgnasV Ikr, most people that I talked to denied these facts tho some supported those heinous actions... But the worst are the makers of this video that falsify historical facts to gain more viewers
The Devşirme system only applied to Greek and Albanian Christians, not the Rûm Millet itself. And bells could be rang, you'll have to provide sources that they could not.😊
@@ishakrahuya You lying hypocrite... It's called a "blood tax" in English and it applied to ALL Christians you guys oppressed not just the Greeks and Albanian Christians, don't you dare minimize our suffering... I bet you also denie the Armenian genoςide
What happened to christians of turkey and middle east in general? Persecution, genocide forceful exislamisation and other atrocities.
People often fail to acknowledge the migration of Oriental Greeks/Ottoman Christians to the U.K. starting in the 1600s, culminating in the era of Greek, Assyrian, Armenian and Babylonian genocides within the Turkish state
There was a very extensive slave trade of Christians in Anatolia by the Seljuk Turks in the eleventh and twelfth centuries which caused a significant decline in the numbers of Christians in Asia minor. After Edessa was captured and pillaged, 16,000 Christians were enslaved. Michael the Syrian reported that 16,000 Christians were enslaved and sold at Aleppo when the Turks, led by Nur ad-Din invaded Cilicia. Major raids in the Greek provinces of western Anatolia led to the enslavement of thousands of Greeks. 26,000 people from Armenia, Mesopotamia and Cappadocia were captured and taken to slave markets during Turkic raids in the year 1185. "Asia Minor continued to be a major source of slaves for the Islamic world through the 14th century" according to Speros Vryonis.[118]
After the Seljuks conquered parts of Asia Minor, they brought to the devastated lands Greek, Armenian and Syrian farmers after enslaving entire Byzantine and Armenian villages and towns.[119]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world
You forgot to mention the Greek, Armenian, and Assyrian genocides that resulted in the deaths of over 1.5 million Christians. You also did not mention the forced relocation of 2 million Indigenous Greeks living in their ancestral home lands in Western Anatolia (modern day West Turkey), to mainland Greece.
Prove it
This is not one sided. Mu ancestors came from salonicie they relocated türks to
@@nomadiscipline the genocide denial runs deep with the Turks. Next thing you will deny the holocaust too? 🤣🤣 did you know that Hitler was inspired by the Greek and Armenian genocide he looked up to the Ottomans. Just goes to show how evil some people can be
This a historical video not a one-sided propaganda clip pushed for political reasons take your concerns elsewhere
What about genocides in Algeria Morocco Syria Iraq Yemen Spain Portugal sicily. Ottoman gave them religious rights and they revolted and gain independence because they were not forcefully converted Christians in serbia Bulgaria wallicia and other terrorists but what about sicily Spain and Portugal where there is old Islamic communities ¿
This vid is trying to be polically correct about what really happened to the christians .same thing as other muslim countries .
Once he mentioned families actually wanting their kids sold as slave soldiers, I realised what kind of video this is
That’s not what politically correct means and the fact you use it that way belies your own political literacy. There were still churches in Cordoba when the moors were expelled from Spain, the same cannot be said of the mosques left in the hands of Castile and other parts of former Muslim conquered regions.
@@mueezadam8438 because they conquer everything and then force their culture on you ofcourse spain wouldnt let them do it
@@mueezadam8438 talking about asia minor
@@mueezadam8438
You're confused. Spain was Christian land - the Moors invaded European land and were thankfully expelled.
They were not Muslim regions - the Muslims were occupying European and Christian land.
8:23 Constantinople wasn't renamed after Mehmed Fatih's conquest. The city was informally called "Istanbul" since several centuries earlier but it wasn't officially renamed until 1930.
Istanbul is not Constantinople go look at its map it's bigger. The city Constantinople is now called Fatih
@@RDAMVs Name of Istanbul was given at 1928
@@taylannurlu7430 it was given to the region not the city, the city is called Fatih til now
@@RDAMVs City has changed. 1923 Constantinapolis is todays istanbul
@@taylannurlu7430 bro go google istanbul map and see where is Constantinople, don't be a bot
Armenian Genocide in WWI caused the biggest expulsion of Christians in Anatolia.
Yeah Armenian Tashnak and Hunchak militants lost the war
balkan genocide was happened before armenian gnocide
People's awareness of Greek civilization and identity came away gravely damaged after the decline of the Byzantine Empire and Ottoman rule. “Hellene,” the appellation that defined the Greek people, had been abandoned: because Byzantium was part of the Roman Empire, the Greeks had taken to calling themselves Romans, Ῥωμαίοι. At the turn of the nineteenth century, as Ottoman rule waned and Greece regained a sense of its own identity, the language situation was, to put it mildly, paradoxical. The traditional written language had remained largely faithful to ancient Athenian-based Koine, yet it was so removed from the language then spoken that people no longer understood it. And there was no one cultural, political, or social identity strong enough to impose its language on the new Greek society. The only center to safeguard Greekness over the centuries had been the Church, which had done so by conserving ancient Koine. So, people looked to it to provide the revival of Hellenism with a common language.
When the Greek War of Independence came to an end, the one way to recover a common outlook was to take a step back in time- two thousand years back. In fact, in its infancy, modern Greece established its identity by returning to its roots in Pericles' Athens of fifth century BC. Therefore, the written language that originated from Hellenistic Koine, which itself originated from the lonic-Attic dialect, gave Greece a united language that corresponded to their reacquired sense of national unity.
Modern Greek pronunciation was achieved by keeping what was common to the majority of Hellenes and eliminating all local quirks. The vowel sounds of Koine remained intact, as did its written form. Modern Greek phonetics is the same as Hellenistic phonetics, though some consonants are pronounced differently. Although the grammatical forms that had disappeared thousands of years before, like aspect, dual number, the optative, and the dative, could not be resurrected, in many regards modern Greek remained ancient. The current language continues to draw a distinction between the present and aorist, retaining all of that distinction's semantic value, and still uses the accusative, nominative, genitive, and vocative cases (though the plural genitive is rarely used, and the nominative and vocative are often mixed up).
Modern Greek made two surprising innovations. It got rid of infinitive verbs-a feature it shares with the languages of the Balkans-and invented a future tense by paraphrasing the verb "to want": "I will judge" is expressed as a кpivo, "I want to judge"-and therefore "will judge."
Because there was no Greek civilization in the middle ages
@@hurriyetperver5272Byzantium was a greek civilization
The word "Hellene" became the word used by the followers of the Old Gods in the Roman Empire to identify themselves while those who are Christians identified themselves Romans.
@@hurriyetperver5272 read Braudel - makes a very cogent argument that there was
@@shingosshojiopoulos6608 There is no such state as Byzantium. That was Roman civilization.
There mustn't be a better example of a 'moving' ethno-linguistic group than the Turkic peoples.
They started out from Eastern Siberia (Mongolia, Altai) and now are main ethnic constituents of various countries, like Turkey, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, etc.
The culture and language moved from east to west but the DNA of the region stayed very similar.
Like a disease that spreads death
Yeah, but the peoples are almost the same, but for their cultures. Turks are champions indeed, love them
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@@Omer1996E.C Not true at all.
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Fun Fact: Ottomans didn't change the Name from Constantinopol to Istanbul, it was the Turkish nationalists in 1930 who changed it 😅
You're kinda right. The barbarian Ottomans did spell Constantinople as Konstantiniyye which is just the arabic way of spelling Constantinople.
The Christian sources describe the naval attacks of the Turks as operations of pirates who aimed at pillaging property and taking captives to sell in slave-markets. Latins and Byzantines expressed much indignation at the spectacle of emirs who were proud only because they were able to lead their ferocious soldiers in predatory raids. The earliest source narrating the wars carried out by the Turks in the Byzantine frontier zones during the collapse of the Seljuk state is the work of George Pachymeres; he describes the Turkish warriors as people earning their living by the knife. Nevertheless what the Christians used to call piracy or brigandage was for the Muslim Turks a Holy War a praiseworthy and legitimate occupation leading directly to Paradise. In 1354 the Metropolitan of Thessalonica Gregory Palama sliving among the Turks as a prisoner realized with surprise that the Turks attributed their victories over the Byzantines to their love for God:
For these impious people hated by God and infamous boast of having got the better of the Romans by their love of God... they live by the bow, the sword, and debauchery finding pleasure in taking slaves, devoting themselves to murder pillage spoil... and not only do they commit these crimes but even - what an aberration - they believe that God approves of them. This is what think of them now that know more precisely about their way of life.
Islam suited nomadic peoples from the steppe and deserts very well. It justified and even encouraged their raiding and pillaging customs.
didn't know the turks are responsible for the genocide of the native americans to be called "living by the sword"
@@MrAlepedroza the Crusades were even more barbaric
@@MrAlepedroza racist bigot
I am guessing people won't talk about their genocide? What happened was Genocide. When the Muslims conquered they killed those who didn't convert. While, they didn't at first, but overtime you can read about how it got worse and worse for the Christians making it worth changing faith.
Leftists generally ignore it because they think it's racism
Wrong. The only genocide committed in Anatolia was AFTER the Ottoman Empire collapsed. There were many Armenian churches built during their reign.
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Dude in 1850 half of capital was non muslim. Are you crazy? How many indian left in america after western stepped in there?
Typical muslim lies😂 @@mueezadam8438
Wished the video delved deeper on the expulsion of Christian Greeks and Armenia by the Turks from Anatolia.
You are right but it is impossible to cover this subject in a single video mate, no matter if it’s one of the best out there. “The Blight of Asia” is one of the most credible accounts written on the subject.
Colonization. An army conquered the region and forced it's people to change their language and culture.
You cant change people that much easy. It's more than that.
@@noftraXIt's called genocide. The Turks are kinda famous for it.
Not even close to reality.
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Not even true.
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The Muslims also commited a few genocides here or there to expediate the process.
As an Assyrian they got murdered. Half of our population was killed starting in 1914 by the Ottoman Turks and their Kurdish allies. Almost completely emptying the entire regions of Mardin, Diyarbekir, Urfa, Hakkari of Assyrians. About 2000 individuals are left. Only one personof my family survived. Same goes for Armenians and Greeks. This ws also not the first time massacres happened. They also treated many 'non-believers' as second class citizens. Discriminating them through severe taxation, legal rights, oen example wa stje Blood Tax which menat they enslaved young Christian men for conversion to Islam and service in the military. This led many to conver as well.
The child tax was levied for nobles who couldn’t/wouldn’t pay the jizya in money. It was discriminatory yes but far more humane than expulsion or slaughter like what the house of Castile did to Muslims in Spain
@@mueezadam8438 At the time of the Assyrian Genocide Christian Countries secularized and became tolerant while the Islamic remained and still remains backwards and intolerant
@@ironzombie39 yes there were many Christian nations that were secular and tolerant, I have great respect for Poland and the other NON-imperial European countries for this. But the truth is, being a Christian or Muslim nation doesn’t prevent evil men from becoming leaders. At that point the British were killing Europeans and Africans for misbehaving in their South African holdings. This isn’t an attempt at whataboutism but evidence that what occurred that day to the villagers had nothing to do with Islam or Christianity and everything to do with the brutality of human nations at that time.
So we're gonna ignore the fact that Assyrians like the Armenians collaborated with the Russian Empire and commited acts of violence against the muslim civilians of Eastern Turkey ?
@@nenenindonu There was literally no violence lmao, it's Turkish Propaganda. You're just salty that Non-Muslims wanted total independence from a Muslim Empire
Many inaccuracies here and there which are not even down to the fast pace of the video. I will only name some of these :
1. Matzikert was not initself a crucial battle, it was just a run of the mill battle between Eastern Romans (Greeks) and Seljuks (Turks). There were numerous such battles some won by Greek (who literally slayed big Seljuk armies, all forgotten by now) others by Seljuks. What did the job for the Seljuks was the massive Civil War of the 1070s following the battle of Matzikert as well as the rebellion of the Frankish mercenaries in central Anatolia when Turks had actually retracted. Only after these 2 events the Turks re-enterred and started raiding all over the place but still their expansion was not as far as the map was shown (i.e. taking almost all of Minor Asia - this expansion occured only 2 centuries later after the Eastern Empire had been destroyed by the Catholics).
2. The Janissaries were abducted enslaved children which were forced to convert and serve the Sultan. The tails of "Christians willingly giving their children to slavery are bogus turkish claims and refer to cases where people were literally dying of hunger, the fault of the Turks who were taking everything, and hence as a last ditch effort they would prefer to see their sons be taken to the Janissaries rather than see them die". For the Christians, converting to islam was converting to satanism so there is no such case as "Christians willingly giving their kids to the Turks" - this myth was rather created by Turks to precisely swear at Christians and present them as people who don't even love their kids.
3. The video presented it as-if Christians in general (thus Greeks in them) remembered to rebel in the 19th century after the nationalism wave hit Europe. LOL! Rather it happened the other way round : in Europe there was absolutely no nationalism going on anywhere and the only place where nationalism existed was among Greeks in the Ottoman Empire. Greeks - and no other Christian (apart rare occasions among the Serbs) - were rebelling constantly against the Ottomans and were in a state of constant warfare with the Ottomans throughout the 3,5 centuries of occupation between 1353 and 1821. The biggest revolution was not even that of 1821 but that of 1768 where, in collaboration with Russians (who only exploited but did not create the Greek Revolution) the 80% of the Ottoman fleets were burned and the Empire was trembling, having lost total control of the Aegean Sea. The Empire was saved then and there by the intervention of the western Europeans who threatened the Russians out of that alliance and isolating the Greeks, then financing and arming and training the Ottomans to beat the Greeks. 1768 is of course earlier than any "nationalist revolution" in Europe. The first "nationalist movements" in Europe ooccured post-1830s and were precisely inspirerd by the Greeks. It is thus funny that people will say that it was the other way round.
In general not just this channel but youtube history channels keep recreating historical inaccuracies. Which is kinda sad given the opportunities this medium presents.
Also the author forgets some more recent events such as the Armenian genocide, i.e. murdering more than a million Armenians, and the Pontus genocide in 1919, murdering 200-353.000 Christians in Pontus. Also the fire and massacre of Smyrna, the working camps, and even the 1955 pogrom to Greeks in Constantinople.
@@Blacknightgr1 These channels are paid mostly by NGO's of a particular political leaning and not mostly by viewers. They are professional propagandists posing in the clothes of history educators. They don't forget, they intentionally omit.
@@Blacknightgr1 Getting censored by the propagandists.
Oooof, too much Salt by the Pagan Polytheist!
@@Blacknightgr1 too much butthurt leads to imaginary genocides :D you are weak, you are lazy, you backstab and you lose miserably. Instead lose the victimhood mindset and improve your nations
Christian Orthodox people belonged to the millet-i Rum, and progressively, Greek became the dominant means of communication amongst the members of the millet, who were called by others and were calling themselves. Romioi. Interestingly, the term 'Hellene' still signified for most people the pagan classical tradition, and it was a term that especially the clergy was keen to eliminate. Certain evocations of the term 'Hellene' by Byzantine scholars (e.g. in the twelfth century) contained some elements of contemporary ethnic identification, but it never acquired widespread currency, it never really "caught" on' (Beaton 2007: 93).
Haha Islam Peacffull.
Most Orthodox Greeks found the idea of a modern connection to ancient Hellenic culture to be distasteful, as it was perceived as a culture which encourages bizarre behavior.
Correction about the Roman Empire adopting Christianity. Constantine didn’t make Christianity the official religion that was Theodosius. Constantine legalized Christianity. Constantine wasn’t Christian himself, he was a member of the sol invitus cult which shared many similarities with Christianity.
Point of correction Emperor Constantine became a Christian in his later life and he was baptized by an Arian Priest
@@8lindzy Here’s the thing. He could have done that for political reasons. Christianity had become the dominant religion and Constantine was looking for stability in an unstable era. It’s why he had his soldiers put the Christian symbol on their shields in the last battle to win the empire. It was a propaganda effort. Privately he may have not been religious at all. He did preach religious tolerance so we can say he wasn’t a fanatic. We can say this for a lot of leaders in history too.
@@sanguisbumb6138 but in your previous description, you clearly stated he wasn't a Christian or didn't become a Christian although perhaps he might probably be a non-practicing Christian like the early newly converted Christians Europeans were. Constantine certainly was a Christian according to historians and archaeologists
One of the reasons why the Ottoman Empire's Muslim population increased was because of the conversion of the Albanians and the Bosniaks from Christianity to Islam and also the later migration of the Circassian tribes from the Caucasus after the Russian Empire seized the Caucasus from them.
How about Crimean Tatars and Nogai migration from Russia to Ottoman empire?
Bosniaks were considered at heretic by christians before islam.
Russia doing some inhumane shit? I didn't see that coming
The predominance of Greek women at the Seljuk harem thus seems to have been merely a royal variation of a common practice in Muslim Anatolia. Greek women were valued as the most prestigious marriage partners among all strata of Muslim society. It was Greek women who guided their Muslim husbands and masters into the refined Byzantine way of life and the world of Byzantine luxury, introducing among other things new cuisines and ways of structuring the household. Although the information on Seljuk marriage policy in the eleventh to twelfth century is scarce, it seems highly probably that the Seljuk harem was modelled along similar lines as other strata of Muslim Anatolian society, with a preference of marriage to Greek women who in turn acted as mediators to the old world of the 'empire of the Romans'.
Peacock, A. and Yildiz, S., 2012. The Seljuks of Anatolia.
Did any Ottoman Sultans have Greek women as their main concubine?
@@YoLo-hx3cs Yeah many of them actually had greek wives.
They were kidnaped and raped
The deciding factor wasn't ethnicity but religion. Harem women were $!@v3$, and you can only do that to non-Muslims.
Their predominance is explained by the fact they were Christian and thus free game for 3n$!@v3m3nt. Btw this channel censors such comments as mine.
"Now called Istanbul:" I am almost certain that the Turks called the city Konstantiniye until 1932, when a Law on stamps by Kemal Ataturk called it Istanbul. Interestingly, the word "Constantinople" is half Latin (Constantinus) and half Greek (Polis), while Istanbul is a Turkish pronunciation of the entirely Greek expression "Is tin Polin" (at the City). Still today, most Greeks avoid the long word Constantinoupolis, if the speech is not formal, and call it "Polis".
One correction: Janissary corps those were taken from christian communities were largely from Balkan peninsula not from Anatolia, Syria and eastern regions where also Armenian people lived together with Muslim community.
Balkan Peninsula (predominantly Serbian Children . It was called "Blood tribute").
love how they casually forgot to talk about greek, armenian and assyrian genocides which also played a very big role!
Well its that simple to just mention those genocides and lose tons of subs and money, I wouldn't csre much tbh
Or how they skipped giving a more detailed account on how the Jannissaries were the result of the "blood tax", where they were forcefully taken and converted. Being one of the reasons why greeks sought independence.
Yes, these kind of videos (and school books) always whitewash the misdeeds of Islamic societies in history, because it is only popular to criticize Western societies.
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Love how biased Christian fundamentalists rebrand failed military campaigns as geenoside
They were culture enriched...
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This is quite wrong: Byzantium did not integrate any Muslims and there were not more Jews in Byzantium than in the West (the core of historical Jewry was Hispania and to lesser extent nearby areas of Italy and Provence, Marseilles being at the origin of the Ashkenazi spread to Germany and beyond).
Muslims on the other hand were relatively tolerant of both Christians and Jews (and the Ottomans, among various others, welcomed the exiled Sephardites), while Islamization of Anatolia was mostly achieved by brutal genocide of Christians in the Ottoman-Republic transition at the end of WWI. The Armenian genocide is well known but the forced exile to Greece of millions of Anatolian Christians, arbitrarily considered by their religion to be ethnic Greeks (although many only spoke Turkish) was maybe even more decisive. It's quite ironic that secularist Kemalism was the main actor in this Islamization of Turkey.
On a lesser note, Constanipole and Antioch are not in Asia Minor, even if they are in the modern Republic of Turkey.
Thats why christians and jews where genocidet by ottomans and also from muhammads army😂
One of the best videos on the subject out there ! For those interested, a very enlightening book is “The Thirty-Year Genocide: Turkey's Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894-1924”.
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@@trak83eros60 least racist Turkish response to mild criticism....
What happened to the Turkish and Muslim majority of Macedonia? All the Balkans.
They were send home to hell
They returned to Turkey,pardon Anatolia (land of Greeks, Armenians,Georgians, Asirians-Persia,( Irak, Iran)...etc...
@@drazantodoric6040 The ones who could save their lives returned to Türkiye, land of the Turks. But most of them were massacred by Christians. A century long genocide against Turks took place in the Balkans especially organised by Greeks beginning with Tripoliçe massacre. Just as told in the Greek anthem.
@@mehmetcaglarozgur7679 I am truly sad to hearing this, but...first was 1915 genocide against Armenians and Pontiac Greeks, than this. All the victims are ordinary people.
@@drazantodoric6040 What first? İf you are trying to find a first then look for the Eastern Romans exterminating the Armenians 1000 years ago. On the other hand, in 1915 Armenians attacked us from behind and we protected ourselves. There is no such thing as Pontiac genocide.
Turkish bots cherry picking academic works is a pretty consistent trend on vids like this…
They should at the very least use more accounts lol
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Short answer, we came to British isles, well, what was left of us after genocide
Seljuks who came to Anatolia were not 100% East Eurasian. And modern Turks have decent admixture from them.
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What happened to Christian majority of Anatolia?
Same thing that happened to the Hindu majority Bengal that became Bangladesh..and the Hindu-sikh region of Punjab and Sindh that became Pakistan...and the majapahit Hindu Buddhist kingdom of Indonesia..the list goes on..and will end only when the whole world either forcibly becomes Muslims or Islam is destroyed
ISLAM IS ETERNAL ☪️☝🏻
Well said, we must be aware of this religion and be most hostile towards it.
Anatolia will remain the largest gaping wound in the Western world, in Europe, Greece, and the Christian world
The Holy Bible in the New Testament takes us through four major regions that witness the birth of Christianity: the Levant, Anatolia, the Balkans, and Italy.
Two of them were lost
If the loss of the Levant is a natural thing, because it is an eastern land inhabited by Semites, but Anatolia continued for 2000 years as a Greek European land.
In the context of the war between East and West
Between Iran and Greece
The Turks were able to resolve that war through the Turkification and Islamization of Anatolia
The Balkans became mostly Slavic
There is nothing left of Greek civilization except the region of the Aegean Islands
Middle age mentalty and middle eastern mentalty no diffrences from 15.century spanish catholic.
İ am glad i live secular Türkiye
Ottoman Empire had hybrid societies. There are many elements of ritualls of paganism mixed into Christianity first and then to Islam. Like candle lighting for Christian saints and Muslim saints for wishes. 40 days rituals. So many others. Shamanism added rituals to those beliefs as well. People visited each others' religious temples.. Muslims went to drink from "ayazmas" ,the holly water fountains to get blessings. Most of the Ottoman population was either Christian converts or Christians. Variety of elements of Abrahamic religions, paganism and shamanism/Tengrism were intertwined together. Amazing cultural richness was everywhere.
Hate the Byzantine name but weird that you seem to consider the Eastern Roman Empire and Byzantium different entities. Idk, at the end of the day all I know is that there are still small communities of Greek speaking Orthodox Romans im Syria and Turkey
Many inaccurate things here. The Turks were initially extremely intolerable to other religions. In fact, the Seljuks applied a convert or die policy. Secondly, the Seljuks were certainly not the beginning of the end. After the loss of Anatolia, the Romans were still extremely capable. They repeatedly defeated the Turks over and over until most of Anatolia was recovered including the vast majority of the Christian population, and especially all the important Roman cities along Anatolia’s coast. Byzantium was still quite powerful and wealthy compared to everyone else in Europe and the Middle East. It was the 4th crusade that completely broke their power. The Turks were almost negligible in comparison. Even the Ottomans conquered much less Roman land than even the Serbs and Bulgars at the time.
west anatolia was under control of armeninans and they were ally with seljuck. There were no land connection with other muslims. How can it possible then?
the byzantines werent rlly that capabke. they had stupid leaders that preferred to fight other christians in civil wars than foreign muslims.
Constantinople wasn’t renamed to istanbul until after ww1. this video isn’t fully accurate
In a poem, Malik Danishmend boasts: "I am Al Ghazi Danishmend, the destroyer of churches and towers". Destruction and pillaging of churches figure prominently in his poem. Another part of the poem talks about the simultaneous conversion of 5,000 people to Islam and the murder of 5,000 others.[129]
Michael the Syrian wrote: “As the Turks were ruling the lands of Syria and Palestine, they inflicted injuries on Christians who went to pray in Jerusalem, beat them, pillaged them, and levied the poll tax [jizya]. Every time they saw a caravan of Christians, particularly of those from Rome and the lands of Italy, they made every effort to cause their death in diverse ways".[130] Such was the fate German pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 1064. According to one of the surviving pilgrims:[131]
"Accompanying this journey was a noble abbess of graceful body and of a religious outlook. Setting aside the cares of the sisters committed to her and against the advice of the wise, she undertook this great and dangerous pilgrimage. The pagans captured her, and the sight of all, these shameless men raped her until she breathed her last, to the dishonor of all Christians. Christ's enemies performed such abuses and others like them on the christians."
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
What happened to the majority of people who were not Christians, when the Christians began to rule in Anatolia?
Mostly same things
@@E.A.00 Yes mostly same as Germany before Germans or France before Franks and etc...Then what is the point of this?
To answer ur question it was under the roman empire at the time and christianity wasnt forced, it became heavily chrisitan under pserexition until it was tolerated and accpeted by the roman empire so it wasnt forced or Christians conqueiring, unlike the muslims turks who invaded and forcefullu converted the Christian anatolians through different means jizya and dhimmis status or other ways, so the population was turkified and islamified just like what the arabs did to the Christian north africans and levantines, adopt the culture and religion of ur conquerer, so thats the difference christianity and islam came differently to anatolia and how they got ppl to convert
@@kacgb5315 Constantine did just like that to the Romans and Christians did just like that to Hypatia.
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Disappointing that you barely mentioned the 1.5 million Armenian, 500,000 Greek, and 250,000 Assyrian Christians who were intentionally annihilated by the Turks in the 20th century... shame.
Total disinformantion and slander withıout actual proof just based on propağanda what similar to Israel did for palastine for years. Todal we know that Israel many genocide againts Palastine. Armenian lobby, nations who want to use these false claims as leverage use these accusations for poletical benefit.
Also the Kurds, both Christian and Muslim...
Liess
@@tugtekin8660 Turkey lies about the genocide? I agree... +1
bullshit. 2 miilion muslims killed by greeks , 300.000 turks kurdish people killed by armenians.
This is incredibly simplistic, I thought I’d learn something of the conversion of Anatolia but you really painted in broad strokes, its conversion was almost a millennia long process…
If this channel actually talked about that the video could not be monetized. They are walking a tight rope.
The Genocide against Christians stared from day 1 and the destruction and stealing of our Holy Cathedrals.
They only reason why Orthodox faith still alive is cause JesusChrist himselve preserve it alive and he will be back to judge all nations ☦️
@@perceivedvelocity9914 Not really.. This channel had been spewing anti-christian propaganda in some of their past videos and they had no problem with that.
it's a 10 minute video..
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Worst thing that happened to anatolia. Like can you name bigger downgrade in history.
I want to state some wrongs in this.. The child tax Christians didnt like it thats why they married their kids at the age of 12-13 yo, or if they were wealthy the sent them in Europe to study, or they paid off Turks official to skip their turn, or if a Christian girl was impregnated by a muslim and he didnt marry her in most cases they killed her before she was able to give birth..there wasnt any official Sultan order to convert all Christians to Muslims but regionally there were Pashais that did that and the regime itself made them convert... And the fact they were free to practice their religion isnt exactly true for the same reasons.... The biggest failure of the Ottomans was that even if they didnt push the populations(as they claim) the head of the State didn't actually care about their populations(especially the non Muslims) and as long as they got their pennies they didnt give a pennie on what was happening....
The answer is simple as it was peaceful community and how they peacefully did genocide.
No we just took Christian women as wives and they gave birth to Islamic sons.
😂😂😂
Even if U look at the last 100 years America alone killed more people then Muslims did in the last 500 years
They attacked Türkiye. Armenias killed türks . That is not one sided
How americas convert to Christianity 😂😂
OMG You didn't mention the Greek and Armenian genocides in 1914-1923!
Greek ? Hahaha you mean the war between Greeks and what was left of a resistence against an invading force where both sides killed a lot of people and illneses and cold killed more ? Look I get it you are told all kinds of bullshit but at least show proof.
They converted to islam gradually over 800 years and their churces were reduced to ruins mostly
😂 i wish that's true bud but can't you see logic? How can mere humans just let lands be reduce to ruins? They probably got converted to mosque. If you mean religious institution,they just moved to Moscow.
You can't call Genocide a conversion and it wasn't "gradual" they stole our Churches since day 1.
We Greeks never converted to islam cause we are not barbarians from the desert easy to convice with "72 virgins in paradise" Babarian Turks just used islam as an excuse for genocide against Greeks and Armenians and that's why they are gonna lose entire Anatolia again !
Quantify ‘mostly’. There were still many churches, enough in fact for the sizable Christian Armenian population to practice. Those were only destroyed post-ottoman
Nah.
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@@afterall-se6ih cites high quality sources
I like how the author silenced genocides turks did for centuries
Bcs it's mostly propaganda lol, if they genocide, all those balkans cultures won't exist
Genocide, greek speaks greek and armian speaks their own language, ottoman turks did not change religion or language,
Also if you are gonna make s genocide, you would do it when you are at strongest times,
Why did ottoman turks choose a time to make a genocide when all 7 christian countries attack ?
Did you atrack a man when you are ill or sick ?
What you said genocide is the failed attempt of Armenians by Russians to attack turks and the result is one of the biggest defeat of Armenians
8:25 Constantinople name wasn't changed until Attatürk took control of Turkey.
The timeline of the Ottoman Empire is crazy af. The medieval realm that destroyed the roman empire ceased to exist when H*tler was already an adult 🤯
😁
In fact Hitler got inspired by Kemal "the mass murder" Ataturk
A.H was allies with the Ottomans during ww1 since he fought for Austria-Hungary
@@MojaveWrangler77They weren't allies. The German Empire was an Ally of the Ottoman Empire in WW1 but not in WW2
@@bertrecht913 hitler was a soldier in austria-hungary during ww1
It took hundreds of years to acrually make the Empire Christian.
Paganism did mot just vanish.
It got bloody.
the question is why there are churchs in Turkey but not a SINGLE mosques in Greece ? and what happened to spanish muslims during the conquesta ?
What are you yapping about there are mosques in greece where there are muslim minorities, there are very few churches in greece. Greece upheld the lausane agreement and allowed religious groups in thrace to keep their religion and even have some Turkish language schools. Turkey did not and forced remaining greeks to leave thace and withheld language rights in Imbros and Tenedos. Turkish state is one based on ethnic homogeneity and soon they will genocide the kurds as well, they will take away their language(they have pretty much banned it already) and force them to become Turkish. You have done it in Cyprus you have done it in thace you have done it to Aegean coast. H man had said Atatürk was his biggest inspiration and Turkey is the world's first genocidal state
Because Greece is an orthodox Christian country while Turkey is secular??
@@hopeundertheblacksunwhen nationalism came to Greece they expelled Muslim then the Turks also expelled christians from Turkey. 700000+800000 almost 1.5 million people exchanged their homes.
@@hopeundertheblacksun 99% of Turkish people are muslims
%95 of the churchs in Turkey,Converted into a mosque,barn,brothel only historical churchs are untouched for Tourist attraction
Ibn Battuta often spoke of slaves that the Turks used as domestic servants or sex slaves during his travels through Anatolia during the 1300s. There was a large number of slaves at Laodicea, in the harems of the prominent citizens. Some of the slaves had arrived in the marketplaces in large quantities, and Batouta himself acquired a slave woman at Balıkesir, close to Pergamon. According to Ibn Battuta, the emir of Smyrna, Omour Beg, among the most famous of slave traders during this period (and often went into expeditions for slaves in the Aegean Sea) personally presented him with the gift of a slave woman. The slaves often sought to escape at any costs. Battuta describes how his slave fled from Magnesia together with another slave and how the two fugitives were later captured.[79][120][121]
In the year 1341, The Turkish bey Umur of Aydin terrorized the Christians in the Aegean sea with his 350 ships and 15,000 men from a captured port in Smyrna, capturing many slaves.[122]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world
10:16 No they did NOT want that!! Would you want your son to be taken from you and sent to the UAE/Oman/Saudi Arabia just to be a bit more wealthy than he would be in your family???
Big ups to Turks, they did the most prosperous demographic engineering of the 20th century traded Greek and Armenians Christians in favor of Muslim Albanians, Bosniaks, Tatars, Circassians, etc.
They did a genocide on many greeks pontics and armenians
@@zafjohn 💪🏻🇹🇷
@@zafjohn no they didnt.
Those groups tried to ethnically cleanse the Muslim population from the 6 vilayets even though you unalived 500-800,000 Muslim civilians in the end you failed.
You got deported with the intent of being returned after the war (and the reason for the deportation order was the siege of Van which resulted in 40,000 displaced Muslims and 10,000 deaths in the city in 1915) we have the sources for the deportation orders (making mention of 900,000+ deportees), the 1922 US state department estimate (on which we can base that 90% of the overall civilian deported population survived or 817,873 people out of the 900,000~ or so deported people) which would've been higher had the allies not put a sea blockade on Lebanon and Syria causing famines there and indirectly causing more Armenian deaths) and numbers from the Russians on the over 250,000+ armed Armenians (25% of Ottoman Armenians and 50% of the male population) that fought with them such as the Russian Armenian volunteer unit (at 200,000 strong eighty percent of which were Ottoman Armenians), the Fedayi which had 50,000 members and the tens of thousands of Armenians that were part of the Dashnak, Hunchak, Armenakan and others.
As for the Greeks, Ottoman Anantolia had a max of 1,53M Greeks (exc. Syria and Lebanon and Palestine as the Orthodox Greeks there were Arab christian) in 1914 even if they grew by 15% in a period of 9 years (or would've) 1,5m of these Greeks were sent to Greece (on the Greek government's request) while 200,000 stayed in Turkey meaning less than 5% of Ottoman Greeks died..meanwhile 640,000 Turks died during the Greek occupation (Excluding thr activities of Pontic Greeks against the Muslim population) where's 800,000+ Muslim got displaced of the 4 Vilayets that the Greeks occupied this is 25%~ of the Muslim population either killed or displaced.
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You advocate GENOCIDE
8:23 a little fixing on it. The name İstanbul has been given to Constantinople after 1923. After Mehmed conquered the city, there was just a tiny name change. Constantinople-->Konstantiniyye
Very round description,all the sharp corners were filed,with the sandpaper of "political correctness"....
Same thing as what happened in North Africa. Many Christian communities in that region resisted conversion for centuries after the 7th century conquest, but being cut off from the rest of Christiandom and with no hope of ejecting their overlords resulted that with the partial exception of the Copts in Egypt practically everyone had converted to Islam by the early Second Milllennium.
You forgot to mention 15-20 million balkan white muslims were forced to migrate to Ottoman empire to save their life. This also help to increase muslim population in Turkey
The muslims force albanians and bosniaks to be muslims😂 u as paki indian better not speak about that pakistanis are islamic indians u where forced to convert to islam
Some westerners making video for the Balkans what a joke. Except the genocide on all nations that were conquered, there is one very important thing to be considered. Janissary. First blooded child of Christian families was taken by the Ottomans. Meaning 80-90% of the modern Turkey DNA based is Bulgarian, Greek and Armenian
I love Turkey from Philippines!😊 🇵🇭❤️🇹🇷
How’s the treatment of Muslims going for yall in the Philippines? lol
The name Constantinople changed in 1930. In Ottoman era, the name is "Konstantiniyye" which means "The city of Constantine" Ottomans just changed the name from Greek to Turkish. Mehmed did not changed the name because Mehmed knows and reads a lot about Roman Empire. Also he wants to become a Roman emperor. After he took the city, he called himself "Qayser-i Rum" which means "Roman Caesar" or "Caesar of the Romans". So it will be absurd if he changes the name of the city. Also if you look at the design of the Ottoman Mosques, you will see that the design is inspired by Haghia Sophia and other Orthodox Cathedrals. It is a little mistake I saw on the video. Also I think do not believe the statistics about Turkish Government, I am Turkish and there is no way that the muslim percent is %99 in Turkiye. It is much much lower.
Thank you for sharing this information. 😊
@@bigthoughts2644No problem and thank you for your reply. As a history lover, I try to teach to Europeans and other people that we Turks, are different than other Muslim countries. After all, we all live in historical Roman Territories.😁
@@caganyigitakbas659are you Muslim or irreligious like the Turks of the mid-20th century, I'm just curious about you disassociating yourself from Muslims of the Middle East which have been your faith origin.
What happened to Muslim majority Spain, Portugal, Ukraine?
In Spain at least, the majority of Muslims returned to being Christians, like their ancestors before the arrival of the Muslims.
@@SergioSP-kc8bd already muslims why massacred christians
@@SergioSP-kc8bd Jews?
@Anasstasis learn history dude. Search Crimean Khanate
@@SergioSP-kc8bd And yes muslims go to morroco but then to turks and morrocans destory romans and spanish christians att all.
Too many historical errors, I don’t know where to start:
1- Constantinople was called Constantinople until 1930’s.
2- Turks were part of the Eastern Roman Empire and it’s army long before Manzikiert war.
3- Christian Turks were living in Anatolia up until 1920 population exchange
4- Turkish war of independence has nothing to do with Armenians, Armenians were expelled due to their cooperation with enemy russian forces during ww1.
5- Video doesn’t talk about conversations. People convert to christianity or islam depending on the tax advantages 😃
Were the Armenians really doing it or is the Turks just want to blame someone so they don't get that much humiliation like Germany?
5:25 very good point. The Eastern Mediterranean being much more diverse with Muslims, Jews and Christians living together and closer to Islam's origin made it easier for Islam to spread into Anatolia and stay mostly Muslim till today.
In this case shunted Iberia also be MUSLAM?
And why do people always claim “Islam is a religion of peace a tolerance “ is it just pure ignorance or distortions of what islam is all about “submission and subjugation”
Hopefully greeks will find their reconquista soon and take back their lands
So is christianity
Do you think that every person follows religion? Read what the Christians did when they occupied Istanbul in Hagia Sophia. I looked at your other comments and you are very Islamophobic. Don't put the blackness in your heart into comments
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm Christianity is about Love and Forgiveness just read the teachings of Christ. He has never killed, waged war or incited violence against anyone
@@BHTQ18 tell that the the baltic tribes during the northern crussade! Or thr natives or the middle east or pakistan india or china or israel palestine tell that to the circassians tell that to the congolese tell that to algeries tell that the africa still subjugated by francafrique! Tell that to aboriginals and native Americans
@@BHTQ18
فعلا والعهد القديم أى إله كان موجود وقتها
Im from Serboa wgich were for centurys in Otoman slavery so i tell you no parents wan't to give childrens in Janičari, they even cut their fingers or other parts just to stay home and that is real tru!!!
There was no slavery dont be dramatic
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm if there was no slaveory then you don't know the history!
@@aleksandarjovanovic398 slavery was dont by european christians
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm and who were " Janočari "? Children which took by forse from Christians to bekam muslim wariors for Sultan! Please don't talk about genocid which Osmanly do to my people!
@@aleksandarjovanovic398 it was forced drafting like in modern times when israelis have to join the army
This video glosses over so many atrocities its actually appaling idk who the creator is trying to please with this but this is one of the worst videos on this subject
Short answer: the Turks genocided them
Constantinople wasn't renamed to Istanbul until 1930
Constantine was not only one of the greatest emperors of all time, but also a top-notch troll. Everyone in Rome was completely ecstatic because they calculated a 100% chance that Maxentius would make Constantine his b*tch at the Milvian Bridge, only to find Constantine entering Rome while carrying Maxentius' head on a dpear and saying: "Guess who prayed to the wrong God" 😉
8:28 ‘now called istanbul’. The name wasn’t officially changed until the 20th century by Atatürk
now make a video about what happened to the pagan of Anatolia after christianity was forced down on them.
That representation of Nicaea is utterly false. Nicaea was mostly to do with Arius, who had been contradicting prior teaching.
There were also such councils before Christianity was even legal. For instance, the deposition of Paul of Samosata for Adoptionism
Constantinople did not change name after its fall. it renaned with the same name until 20th century.
1453
@@ChinaPlaNaxalitiesKhalistan
28th March 1930
HISTORY FACTS
Lol it's Istanbul now
@@Hussein.Lb33123 i was not answering that,of how it is named now.i answered to someone who said istanbul was the name from the time it got conquered.witch is not a fact.. it got that name officially in 20 th century.
of course istanbul also is a greek word anyways.it means to the city= ις-την-πολη
I'm sure the comments will be civil and respectful
Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who!
Hell ya
I remember growing up in Pakistan when I heard the word constantinople "qustuntunie in urdu" for the first time I was like it's such a badass name
So in short they moved to Greece
No....!
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and Lebanon
Nah armenians and assyrians didn't move there
@@dkgamers1385yeah its a fact buddy
I cover this topic in my History of the Middle East and Western Civ courses! It would also be interesting to show what happened when the Mughals entered India. If you enjoy history, I am a history professor and put all my lectures up on my channel as a free resource. Many homeschoolers enjoy them!
I homeschool so I'll be checking you out. Thanks.
@@libertylovin2359 wonderful. I have 100s of videos all organized in various playlists! Enjoy
I mean considering what actually happened. It's colonialism. That's what happened
Water under the bridge now, Turkey is Turkish and that's no one's business but the Turks but that is what happened
(Even if they really, REALLY need to lay off the Kurds. No one is going to remember them fondly for that because the Kurds aren't going anywhere)
The armenians were seing the same and loke how they end
@@islammehmeov2334 Still existant and still at the side of global sympathy for the genocide they suffered?
@@samwill7259 thanks to TURKS they exist
@@islammehmeov2334 It is in SPITE of Turks that they continue to exist
@@samwill7259 I can detect same TURKS hatred in your comments
this video is pretty bad. it barely talks about christians im Anatolia but focuses on the balkans? it mentions jews alot for no reason too.
There are two blue books called Bryce Report by James Bryce, which the British manipulated the world public opinion in a biased way during the first world war. The first of these is called "Committee on Alleged German Outrages". It contains stories of fabricated massacre torture and genocide by the Germans while they were in Belgium. Today this book is accepted to be a wartime fabrication of British propaganda.
The name of the second book is "The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire". The so-called Armenian genocide is mainly based on this biased wartime propaganda work.
Those who accept that the first book is a fabrication claim that the second book is real. They could not usurp Turkish lands with weapons. But they inflicted 100 years of hatred on the head of the New Turkish Republic.
Today, the Republic of Turkey continues to struggle with a fabricated propaganda piece written in 1916. While Turks want historians to solve this problems, western politicians want to chew like gum this problem in their mouths. Turkey has made all the archives of the Ottoman Empire publicly accessible since years, but Armenia is afraid to open its archives.
Sultan Alp Arslan pledged: “I shall consume with the sword all those people who venerate the cross, and all the lands of the Christians shall be enslaved.”[118] Alp Arslan ordered the Turks:[119]
"Henceforth all of you be like lion cubs and eagle young, racing through the countryside day and night, slaying the Christians and not sparing any mercy on the Roman nation"
It was said that “the emirs spread like locusts, over the face of the land,”[120] invading every corner of Anatolia, sacking some of ancient Christianity's most important cities, including Ephesus, home of Saint John the Evangelist; Nicaea, where Christendom's creed was formulated in 325; and Antioch, the original see of Saint Peter, and enslaved many.[121][122][123] According to French historian J. Laurent, hundreds of thousands of the native Anatolian Christians were reported to have been massacred or enslaved during the invasions of Anatolia by the Seljuk Turks.[124][125]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
Those are historic Christian lands, just like Spain always was.
They didn't convert ro Chritianity without discrimination and violence. Paganism took hundreds of hears to dje. The portrayal of rhe whole place converting because the Empire had adopted a new religion is mot historically correct.
north and south americans were pagans before being forced into Christianity and even entire europe was dominated by paganism or native religions before Christianity
History doesnt begin with Christianity.
@@julianshepherd2038 I am a Indian pegan but I see Christians are much more tolerant than muslims.
@@SidhantDhagare-gw3fj Nowadays, of course, depending on the century and the region, it is more debatable.
8:23 this is wrong the name of the city wasnt actually changed until after ww1 and it is still called many names by the Greeks "Konstaniople" "The City"
The London Conference of 1832 was an international conference convened to establish a stable government in Greece. Negotiations between the three Great Powers (Britain, France and Russia) resulted in the establishment of the Kingdom of Greece under a Bavarian Prince. The decisions were ratified in the Treaty of Constantinople later that year.
There wasn't any Greek political entity up to the 1800's when Britain, France, and Russia decided to establish an artifical ethno-state ruled by a German Dynasty to drain Ottoman influence, the previous two millennia of "Greece's history" were spent under continuous Roman-Turkish yoke
"The fact is that following that of the USA, the Greek Revolution was the first liberal and national movement to succeed in Europe and developed simultaneously with similar movements in South America, while it preceded the well-known large national unifications in Europe, of Italy and Germany. The Greeks did not invent the nation-state, but they were the first in Europe to implement it."
Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021
😂🤣
"Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'."
Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268
"As heirs to the Greeks and Romans of old, the Byzantines thought of themselves as Rhomaioi, or Romans, though THEY KNEW FULL WELL that they were ETHNICALLY GREEKS."
(see also: Savvides & Hendricks 2001).Niehoff 2012, Margalit Finkelberg, "Canonising and Decanonising Homer: Reception of the Homeric Poems in Antiquity and Modernity", p. 20 or Pontificium Institutum Orientalium Studiorum 2003, p. 482
Now please remind me, from which proud state you said you come from? 😂🤣
@@vangelisskia214 "thought they knew full that were ethnically greeks"
---Hahaha They never called themselves greeks.These people, who believed in a religion of Middle Eastern origin and came from Italy, viewed the greeks as inferior.
Thanks for mentioning the Armenian genocide 🙏 perhaps people protesting for a free Palestine can also remember this tragedy
I am part asian greek, I find this sad yet very interesting thank you!
Asian has different connotation which could be mixed with something else, use the term Anatolian Greek or Greco Anatolian
@@e.v3832 Anatolian Greek
Go home grik
@@SultanSuleiman980 You are turkish? If so, we definitely share ancestral populations. Modern turks are a mix of central asians as you know with native anatolian greeks, persians, and armenians. Central asian ancestry varies strongly from like half to very low in certain crypto armenian populations.
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We are very different to you. Stop claiming us.
Sultan Alp Arslan pledged: “I shall consume with the sword all those people who venerate the cross, and all the lands of the Christians shall be enslaved.”[118] Alp Arslan ordered the Turks:[119]
Henceforth all of you be like lion cubs and eagle young, racing through the countryside day and night, slaying the Christians and not sparing any mercy on the Roman nation
It was said that “the emirs spread like locusts, over the face of the land,”[120] invading every corner of Anatolia, sacking some of ancient Christianity's most important cities, including Ephesus, home of Saint John the Evangelist; Nicaea, where Christendom's creed was formulated in 325; and Antioch, the original see of Saint Peter, and enslaved many.[121][122][123] According to French historian J. Laurent, hundreds of thousands of the native Anatolian Christians were reported to have been massacred or enslaved during the invasions of Anatolia by the Seljuk Turks.[124][125]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
They were massacred like what's happening in Gaza but no social media or TV
There is still a lot being massacred worldwide. But no one cares when Christians are the victims. Christianity is still the most persecuted religion in the world.
Gazans are MUSLAM
They forcefully islamized and turkified. And that's how modern day turks were formed. Turks especially in the western regions, have a lot of greek dna. It's for a reason that even their cuisines are similar
Meanwhile western Turks in reality.
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I think your video was hasty and uncountable in many ways from the Janisaries thing to the word "remove" for the armenians...also no mention to pontic greek and assyrian genocide
Why didn't you mention the Armenian genocide?
11:08
@@LasseFraKlassen That's hardly a good explanation/ description of what was a huge event.
@@ashleighuk84 You only asked why it wasnt mentioned. It was mentioned.
@@LasseFraKlassen Technically it wasn't mentioned, it was captioned, but I see where you're coming from.
@@ashleighuk84 Fair point.
8:24 this is incorrect. The official name of the city was Constantinople until 1930.